There have been multiple accounts created with the sole purpose of posting advertisement posts or replies containing unsolicited advertising.

Accounts which solely post advertisements, or persistently post them may be terminated.

kbin.life

TootSweet , to linux in You can't cd or ls in a folder if you have no +x permissions on it. That is all. I wasted 3 hours of my life.

If it makes you feel any better, I decided earlier today to experiment with “castnow”, a command-line program for casting to a Chromecast device.

I grabbed the url of a video off of Archive.org, used wget on a box I was ssh’d into to download the video, and then ran my “castnow” command to cast it to the Chromecast.

I got a progress bar and current/total time on the TV, but aside from that only a black screen and no audio.

I tried getting the latest version of “castnow” from the Git repo. I tried transcoding 7 different ways with FFMPEG. A bunch of things.

Finally, copied the video to my local machine and ran it in mpv.

The video itself was solid black with no audio and the Archive.org page had comments on it saying “why is there no video or audio?”

I tried a different video and it worked fine.

SpezCanLigmaBalls ,
@SpezCanLigmaBalls@lemmy.world avatar

This is hilarious

breakcore ,

Beautiful story. Feel that we’ve all been there. Every now and then, when the assumption is that the stupid piece of tech isn’t working, and there it is, just functioning as intended :)

Thanks for sharing

mindbleach ,

My desktop background used to be solid black with faint grey text reading “Yes, the monitor works.”

Pechente , to showerthoughts in I feel like I'm spending less time on social media after switching to Lemmy

The thing with mostodon and lemmy is that the feed is not algorithmicly tailored to you with the goal to get you to spend as much time as possible. That’s why these experiences are usually more relaxed and fulfilling than what the big players offer.

Beardliest ,

And that’s why I’m never going back. I absolutely love it here. I scroll my feed for a few minutes here and there, drop a comment or two, and I’m done. No feeling of missing something cool. I’ve probably seen it and I’m good.

Cruxifux ,

OH! That’s fucking interesting and makes so much sense. Lemmy is the only social media thing I have now and that’s 100 percent what the difference is that I couldn’t put my finger on.

small44 ,

I spend more time on a social media with chronological feeds than without algorithmic feeds

Beardliest ,

And that’s why I’m never going back. I absolutely love it here. I scroll my feed for a few minutes here and there, drop a comment or two, and I’m done. No feeling of missing something cool. I’ve probably seen it and I’m good.

killerinstinct101 ,

Is your reddit home feed governed by some algorithm (other than the standard upvotes and downvotes)

Pechente ,

Not my Apollo feed but I remember people complaining about posts from certain subs they didn’t like in their feed, so I’m guessing the official app does that?

devilstrip ,

I’ve always assumed it was due to the size of Reddit. I don’t care about anime at all but because lots of other people do it reaches the front page. This is why I became very liberal with the block button to tailor the feed.

deweydecibel ,

Reddit wasn’t tailored to the user, the user tailored it to themselves (unless they were fool enough to use the official app).

It really is just that there’s less content here, and the content there is isn’t sorted particularly well via Hot. It’s a WIP

Boinketh ,

Well Reddit still gets to decide which posts/subs to show over other ones based on voting and engagement metrics.

zeograd ,

In the past months, I was getting so many “you will probably like…”

No, I don’t. Reddit, you’re showing me irrelevant subs which prevent me from browsing the feed I curated.

It was so annoying…

Boinketh ,

I’ve been a 3PA user for years, so that never really happened to me.

spiderman ,

What does 3PA mean?

Boinketh ,

Third party app(s)

eldavi ,

i never saw the “you’ll probably like…” messages; but i saw them in others’ screenshots and it made me wonder why reddit’s algorithm(s) didn’t show it to me; i suspect it was because 99% of my subs were porn adjacent and they didn’t want to advertise that.

veroxii ,

How the Best and Hot algorithms work on Reddit is completely up to Reddit. They 100% tailor it to the user.

Chadsalot ,

Wow you perfectly hit the nail on the head with this comment. I’ve been wondering what “feels” different, and that’s exactly it. When I’m done scrolling I just stop.

eldavi ,

i find myself missing 99% of what i used to get out of social media and i’m forcing myself to see that as a good thing so that i can find more productive uses of my time; it’s crazy to learn that all of the content i’m addicted to is completely dominated by reddit and doesn’t exist anywhere else in the entirety of the world wide web.

Sallal ,

Name of the wind was great. The only reason I didn’t start the second book was the Author’s refusal of releasing the third and “final” book. I prefer cutting things on my terms rather than being forced to. it sounds stupid but at least I feel in control that way lol.

FlyingSquid , to fediverse in Lemmy.world announces blocking communities via Discord [update]
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

I agree 100%. If they are going to make an announcement about lemmy.world, they need to do it on lemmy.world. We’re not all on the Discord. I, for one, don’t want to be.

Sentinian ,

Discord is not something that is easily indexable or linkable. Which means you have to rely on other people if you aren’t part of it. This is a huge issue as anything can be faked

PeleSpirit ,

They absolutely should make announcements here, but I think it’s a matter of people attacking them all of the time. We have to give them a lot of credit for handling so many ddos attacks, someone really doesn’t want this place to exist. Imo, let’s give them a chance to talk about it and not make this a bigger deal than it is. This is a volunteer site and instance, not a billion dollar company so go easy.

gabe ,

Its so weird how aggressive people are against lemmy. People don’t want this entire platform to exist, not just lemmy.world. Like lemmynsfw has had people try to suspend pretty much all their payment processors and hosts repeatedly

PeleSpirit ,

I 100% agree. My conspiracy theory is that it isn’t reddit or the dude who was upset they banned him, but the people who paid reddit to handle narratives. Lemmy is breaking the PR system. Politics, technology, and also other big communities are taking off and that’s a no go. I could be wrong though, it could be one of the first two or a combo of all three.

gabe ,

I think you underestimate just how bored people can be and how just innately some people are driven to just start shit for seemingly no reason. If there’s a good thing and a new idea to spring up, there’s always at least one person to try and wreck it for everyone.

Granted though, if Reddit is paying someone to basically cause chaos here in some way it’s honestly kind of appreciated. Thank you kind strangers for stress testing the platform and making it more robust and encouraging other instance admins to coordinate with one another.

https://literature.cafe/pictrs/image/4229d77b-2763-4c26-af08-0ae05f9c2cab.webm

PeleSpirit ,

You may be right but I think you might be underestimating how much a threat Lemmy is to a lot of huge companies. Journalists and/or people who work for politicians would get a lot of info and spread info at reddit. I’m sure technology has people like that too.

gabe ,

Oh no, I do think it’s a huge threat. The fediverse in its entirety is horrifying to so many large companies. That’s why facebook is desperate to try and step into the fediverse and is getting more and more pissed off as people are going “nuh uh!”

Mastodon is good, but lemmy does have the most potential out of most fediverse projects to become truly really really big if done right. It’s like activitypub was made for this kind of platform. Having to just pull entire communities rather than specific users is a big step up from mastodon and reduces the complexity that bars a lot of people from joining mastodon

HughJanus ,

I don’t understand what one thing has to do with the other.

No one should voice their concerns with the direction of the instance? Everyone should just be silent because the community is run by volunteers?

infyrin ,
@infyrin@lemmy.world avatar

someone really doesn’t want this place to exist.

I suspect very spiteful Reddit users and probably now the newfound enemies that are made from blocking the piracy community.

BrianTheeBiscuiteer ,

Or secondarily I’d say Mastodon. They have an account but never post anything there.

KazuyaDarklight ,
@KazuyaDarklight@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah seems like the mastodon account would make a lot of sense as a kind of quick and dirty feed of information, particularly when it comes to stuff that’s less “announcement” oriented. Like up down or performance issue statuses and the like.

GBU_28 ,

How would they make a post about a lemmy.world outage on lemmy.world

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

It wasn’t about an outage.

GBU_28 ,

One of the original intentions of posting somewhere else was about outages.

Something like “we are down so much come read about it live over at …”

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Okay, but that’s not what this is about.

GBU_28 ,

“why did lemmy.world mods start posting things to a discord group?” Is the implied point of the thread we are in.

Acknowledged that THIS post by them was regarding defederating the piracy group.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

No, that is not the implied point. This is specifically about announcing blocking communities and instances. No one expects lemmy.world to announce it’s down on itself.

GBU_28 ,

Hence they created a discord to provide up to the moment updates on features/changes of lemmy.world.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

You really don’t get this and I’m not going to spend any more time holding your hand through it.

GBU_28 ,

Bro,

Discord created to provide up to the moment outage/stability updates.

Discord used in this instance to provide up to the moment defederation updates.

It’s like, mostly the same words.

I acknowledged the use case is different and explained the reasoning they chose that platform.

Simple stuff.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

You still don’t get it. You clearly don’t want to. But your ego-stroking has been noted.

GBU_28 ,

Don’t act like you’re some dominant figure here, it’s very toxic.

we disagree, and you are purposefully pretending I’m typing in wingdings or something.

Lemmy does not provide what they needed, and they justified their actions. If people don’t like it, that’s fine, but to suggest they mindlessly acted is purposefully missing the point because people aren’t happy with them.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Don’t act like you’re some dominant figure here, it’s very toxic.

What are you even talking about now? I didn’t even bother reading the rest because that’s such a bizarre thing to say that I couldn’t keep going. What long-lost blocked-up crevice did you pull that out of?

GBU_28 ,

Literally a response to your words where you suggest I’m taking some ridiculous off the wall action, behavior which you repeat here.

Cya

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

What? I didn’t suggest any such thing. What a bizarre lie.

Pacers31Colts18 ,

They tried to. It was down at the time though.

GnuLinuxDude , to asklemmy in What's a scam that's so normalized that we don't even realize it's a scam anymore?
@GnuLinuxDude@lemmy.ml avatar

Private health insurance is the biggest fucking scam ever. The private insurance companies benefit by getting the aggregate healthiest population into their plans (working adults). The most likely to be expensive people, i.e. old people (on medicare) or poor people (on medicaid, or not even on an insurance plan) are on government, tax payer insurance plans. There is literally no reason except for corporate profiteering that Medicare should not be expanded to cover all people.

Also all those conversations, especially in the 2020 election period, were totally bullshit. You say something like M4A will cost 44 trillion dollars or whatever, which sounds like an insane amount of money. What is often left out of the discussion is that estimated cost was 1) over 10 years and 2) has to be weighed against the current costs we already pay for insurance. So the deal was very simple: the overall costs would go down because the overall spending would be less, and at the same time millions of people without coverage would be covered, and at the same time you don’t have to contemplate stupid bullshit like in network, out of network providers. Or ever again talk to your insurance about why something is or isn’t covered. Boils my blood when I think too much about this.

Not even gonna weigh in on things like how medicare can’t negotiate prescription drug prices (nytimes.com/…/medicare-drug-price-negotiations-la…), or how dental, vision, and hearing are treated separately from general healthcare, or how med school is prohibitively expensive, or how the residents after med school are overworked because the guy who institutionalize that practice was literally a cokehead. Those are all just bonus topics. The point is we are getting fleeced.

Twink ,
@Twink@hexbear.net avatar

Private anything is a scam because it doesn’t exist to resolve an issue or fulfill a need and instead pursues profit over any logic.

Slotos ,

NoYeah no. Get out of US bubble.

Private and public are both viable models of operations with some applicability overlap. Private doesn’t necessarily pursue profit first, despite US literally enforcing it.

Basic needs that are either unchanging or change very slowly are the purview of public policy. Healthcare, infrastructure, etc. Privatize it and you’ll have a catastrophe.

Basic needs that benefit from variation and supply elasticity with a necessary baseline is where hybrid model works well. Public entrepreneurship provides variation, regulations or public enterprises cover baseline. Agriculture is a great example of such overlap. Private-only agriculture leads to profiteering on basic human need. Public-only agriculture leads to famines due to incompetence, malice, or lack of elasticity.

Desires that people can live without and can change on a whim is where private innovation thrives. Be it a product to sell or a charity project to pursue. Some of the results of said innovation can and will become matters of public interest. Forbid private enterprise here, and you’ll end up in a bleak reality of North Korea.

We literally had a case of “public everything” half a century ago and it didn’t fucking work. It needed serfdom and insane amounts of natural resources to prop itself up. It also left a mafia-led capitalism in its wake.

We also have a live case of blind trust in markets, as if information was immediately available everywhere. It leads to a very similar looking outcome.

richieadler ,

Sadly one of the main exports of the US is its ideology, so many other countries want to implement the same heartless, profit-oriented privatizations of every state organism.

lemann ,

The only instances where privatized offerings may work IMO is if the government themselves are the competition, acting as a “control”.

Without a stable control that has the sole purpose of serving the people, fully privatized offerings will just squeeze more money out of already stretched households for profit as you’ve said… which is the case for practically everything RN

EyesEyesBaby ,

Welcome to the US

Dark_Arc ,
@Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg avatar

Private insurance (for the average person) in general is dumb. We have a collective need to insure various things against disaster, and realistically the federal government shells out huge amounts for most disasters anyways (after the so called insurance companies go bankrupt).

So why the heck are we paying a premium for all of the overhead of the insurance companies?! It’s this massive inefficient system that doesn’t work, while the “government as insurance” system works great, and doesn’t require nearly as much overhead. There’s no room for private sector insurance to inovate, because there’s nothing to inovate on; IMO, the private insurance industry contributes nothing of value to society except jobs that it pays for by forcing everyone to engage with it.

The insurance industry in general is betting you’ll be fine, and you’re betting “maybe I won’t.” It’s extra bad for medicine because they stick their head even into the small stuff, not just “I need a 10,000 unexpected hospital bill covered.”

PlanetOfOrd ,

Probably gonna anger both sides here, but I see both private insurance and single-payer healthcare as equally-evil scams. Why not focus on driving down costs of healthcare (i.e. EVERYTHING) so that you throw a couple bucks at the receptionist to cover your surgery then check to see if you have enough for a post-surgery soda?

GnuLinuxDude ,
@GnuLinuxDude@lemmy.ml avatar

One of the objectives of single-payer is to drive down the costs of healthcare by eliminating the overhead of an insurance bureaucracy. There are other aspects that can be considered like nationalizing hospitals to eliminate private run, for-profit hospitals. People like this en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HCA_Healthcare are just as responsible for the high per-capita costs of healthcare we pay as are the insurance companies. And I agree with you, they shouldn’t be getting a guaranteed government handout.

pearsaltchocolatebar , to science_memes in Children is bugs

If you married an entomologist and get upset about that, it’s kinda on you.

FanBlade ,

Are entomologists known for withholding information from their SO?

Kusimulkku ,

Bug related information? Yes

terraborra , to asklemmy in What is a gender neutral replacement for man, guys, buddy, etc?
@terraborra@lemmy.nz avatar

Cunts

vlad76 ,
@vlad76@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

We can close this thread now. The question has been answered.

The_wild_card ,

Threadkiller

cypherpunks ,
@cypherpunks@lemmy.ml avatar

instance name checks out

Iapar ,

Oi! You’re a good cunt!

ininewcrow ,
@ininewcrow@lemmy.ca avatar

Found the Australian

terraborra ,
@terraborra@lemmy.nz avatar

They wish they could be our western island.

MadBob ,

In New Zealand of all places!

Mr_Fish ,

Kiwis call each other cunts almost as much as aussies. We insult each other just as much, but we have better taste.

kaffiene ,

And we taste better

ironhydroxide ,

I’d accept bloody beautiful bastards as well.

HEXN3T ,
@HEXN3T@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Ah, finally! A worthy alternative.

gofsckyourself ,
  • Fucks
  • Shits
  • Turds
  • Maggots
ReallyKinda , to asklemmy in What's some really unpopular opinion you have?

The average person shouldn’t be allowed to drive. It’s extremely dangerous and most people are desensitized to it and absolutely don’t take the natural responsibility towards others that comes with having the ability to kill someone with a finger twitch (or a slight lapse in attention) seriously enough. I don’t think it would be allowed if it was just invented this year.

ndguardian ,

This is why I personally am looking forward to fully self-driving cars. We’re a long way off, but when self-driving cars can completely replace the human element, I think the world will be a much safer place.

STUPIDVIPGUY ,

This is short-sighted. We need to entirely divert away from using cars as our primary mode of transportation.

Catsrules ,

Naa, I think self driving cars will fix most of the negatives of cars.

STUPIDVIPGUY ,

How about spacial inefficiency? A car only carries 1-6 people compared to a train which carries dozens or even hundreds. Or a bus which carries dozens.

Explain to me how self-driving cars will fix that

Catsrules ,

Traffic and parking are the biggest issue i see with cars and space efficiency. Both can be significantly improved on with self driving. Especially if most people opt for public ownership of cars and not private. Something think will become more popular as self driving takes over and lowers the cost of taking the self driving equivalent of a taxi or Uber.

By the way i think self driving cars will make trains more popular. As trains suck at first and last mile transportation. Self driving solves the first and last mile issues.

STUPIDVIPGUY ,

If we’re going to opt for public ownership then why would you choose the less efficient single passenger method over already-established public infrastructure like trains and trams and buses which have been proven to work well in other countries?

Also please elaborate on how self driving cars will improve parking issues. And as for traffic, while self-driving cars will be less likely to cause accidents and jams, hundreds of independent low-capacity vehicles are in no way more effective than a single locomotive carrying those hundreds of people in a smaller space.

You’re allowed to like self-driving cars, but buses and trains are objectively more efficient in the large scale and all you have to do is acknowledge that. The more people realize this, the more room there is for us to make progress

Catsrules ,

If we’re going to opt for public ownership then why would you choose the less efficient single passenger method over already-established public infrastructure like trains and trams and buses which have been proven to work well in other countries?

Simple we have already chosen cars in the US. It is far easier to use the existing roads to our advantage then try and redesign the entire country to fit a train and tram and bus model.

Also please elaborate on how self driving cars will improve parking issues.

In a public car the car will drop people off and drive away to pick up other people. There would be no need parking at all. Just a small drop off and pickup location.

Now this won’t work as well if we are talking about private ownership cars, but it would be better as the car can drop you off and then drive to a centralized parking location. This would remove the need for street parking or parking lots next to restaurants and stores. Or if your planning to stay a long time for exmaple if your going to work for 8 hours. I think many people might want rent out their car during the day. Car drops me off at work and I tell the car to join the “public car” network for 8 hours and it can go find some people to transport.

And as for traffic, while self-driving cars will be less likely to cause accidents and jams, hundreds of independent low-capacity vehicles are in no way more effective than a single locomotive carrying those hundreds of people in a smaller space.

Oh sure it won’t be as effective but it will be much better then what we have now. And there are benefits cars have over trains. For example after a the world pandemic scare I find traveling in my own space a much more pleasant experience then sharing with many other people. Also I really like listening to music in a car as full volume very enjoyable experience that you just can’t do on a public train :). A car will be a single vehicle to my destination, I can get in a fall asleep if I want. Buses and trains are usually multiple vehicles and you need to be some what alert to know when your stop is.

STUPIDVIPGUY ,

what you say makes sense, not saying you’re completely wrong, but your whole argument is based off the fact that we have already chosen cars. But simply doubling down on a worse solution just puts us deeper in to the hole, instead of making the more difficult decision of redirecting some of our massive amounts of GDP in to larger scale projects (yknow instead of wasting billions on military spending & corporate bailouts) such as making the investment into the development of a proper rail network BESIDE our existing infrastructure, like china has done for example. (not supporting china but it is true that they have made massive progress in public transportation across a country equally large as ours, in a relatively very short time)

Catsrules ,

I just have no confidences in the US to make a national rail system. Every attempt it seems to have failed dismally for some reason or another.

Jolteon ,

Every other country that has succeeded in making a mass rail system is an order of magnitude smaller than the US.

snowbell ,
@snowbell@beehaw.org avatar

Now there’s an unpopular opinion

GlowingLantern ,
@GlowingLantern@feddit.de avatar

Not at all. Most German car companies know this and some have even said as much (focus on luxury cars, car sharing and subscriptions). The Greens (part of the government) have been pushing for better public transportation and now Germany has a nationwide ticket for just 49€ per month. We still need much more investment in infrastructure, but that opinion is shared by many town planners and politicians. An added benefit with reduced road traffic is that driving becomes easier and fun again.

snowbell ,
@snowbell@beehaw.org avatar

That all sounds very German, lol. I’m mostly just speaking from my America-centric perspective. It would be nice to have reduced road traffic here and make riding more fun, but a lot of the people that support public transit typically hate motorcycles just as much as they hate cars so I feel like I have to oppose them even though I don’t own a car myself.

GlowingLantern ,
@GlowingLantern@feddit.de avatar

Better public transportation shouldn’t mean that cars or motorcycles will be banned. It’s a way to move more people more efficiently. Ideally, you wouldn’t want to own a car or motorcycle, because other modes of transport provide a better service. While it might seem very German/European, it’s actually not that straightforward if you consider that the modern car, truck and motorcycle were all invented in Germany (by Karl Benz and Gottlieb Daimler) and that the economy of Germany and Europe as a whole is dependent on the automobile industry. However, other companies in other countries are facing similar problems, so it’s not unique to Europe either. The ones which adapt best will survive (probably).

ErwinLottemann ,

‘just’ 49€, and that’s the problem.

GlowingLantern ,
@GlowingLantern@feddit.de avatar

Still much cheaper than owning a car.

Catsrules ,

What are you talking about, that is cheap in regards to monthly transportation costs.

argv_minus_one ,

Because if there’s one thing everybody needs, it’s to either triple their daily commute or live in a pod.

Cars are popular for a reason.

duh ,

Or just a good public transportation system, really. I would never drive if I could take a bus to every place I need to go.

NXTR ,
@NXTR@artemis.camp avatar

On the flip side I’m worried about manufacturers realizing that the continuous revenue stream from autonomous vehicles is more profitable than selling vehicles outright thereby increasing the cost of buying a vehicle to the point where ownership becomes functionally obsolete except to the ultra-wealthy. This also makes it much easier to restrict the movement of people. Self driving car companies could easily disable the ability to travel to entire areas either because they say they’re too dangerous or not profitable enough to operate in. I can imagine entire cities and rural areas becoming ghost towns. While personally I think autonomous vehicles, in a vacuum, have the potential to save countless lives, the reality is that in time we will be giving the companies making these vehicles the ability to dictate where we can and cannot go.

octobob ,

I think this is spot on.

Adding onto this, city driving is just… different, in a way that I think a human element is always going to be needed. Sometimes you need to take a risky left, or cut across the double yellow lines into the other lane past someone, or run a yellow. Are these things unsafe? Of course. But when it’s rush hour you have to be a dick just to get through it sometimes. In 2016, Uber built and tested their self-driving cars in my city of Pittsburgh, because we notoriously have some of the worst and most confusing spaghetti messes of roads in the country. They stopped whenever a car struck and killed someone. I rode in one one time because I was just tryin to call an Uber for a concert, and since it couldn’t go on the highway it took the worst way through downtown, and got stuck at a red light for over 5 minutes because the car was waiting to take a left, and everyone was going around us and not giving us a break.

Also, all these new cars with their auto-correcting features scare the shit out of me. What happens when you go across the double yellow to go around someone riding a bicycle and it swerves you back into their lane?

You could call these bugs to be worked out but I feel infinitely safer when I’m the one doing the driving. In a perfect world maybe our infrastructure and transport would’ve been planned differently but I swear half the roads around here are based on deer trails or something, winding through crazy hills in the woods. I’ve heard self-driving cars do best on roads specially designed for them. We can’t even get the city to fix our thousands of potholes, or crumbling infrastructure. We had a major bridge collapse a couple years ago, and the way it was rated during inspections was pretty close to the other ones around here. So how on earth are self-driving car roads going to be put in?

argv_minus_one ,

That’s probably going to happen with or without self-driving.

OofShoot ,
@OofShoot@beehaw.org avatar

There’s a few places that didn’t get cars until later and “no thank you” was a very common reaction. We really ought to just ban private ownership.

Gargleblaster ,
@Gargleblaster@kbin.social avatar

People who die while driving are almost all die by accident.

People who get shot are far more likely to be killed intentionally.

GlowingLantern ,
@GlowingLantern@feddit.de avatar

Cars were almost banned when they first became popular. The existing infrastructure and traffic safety regulations (shared roads) were not adequate for a speeding death machine. However, cars were very important for the military, so highways and modern road networks were quickly pushed as “the future”.

Synthead ,

Too many places let you drive if you do the happy path stuff right: stopping at a stop sign, changing lanes safely, etc. But the most important time of your driving is when you’re about to hit a semitruck and you need to get your car out of the way, and there is no training material for this at all. People often panic and slam the brakes and aggressively turn the wheel, which is a perfect setup for understeer and losing control of your car. They are literally getting in a situation where they are about to die and they choose to greatly increase their risk due to negligence.

It’s cheaper to run simulators than purchase cars and hire trainers. Get em in nasty situations and teach them how to get out of it. For real, if mom and dad can’t evade sinking their freeway missile into a van full of kids, they shouldn’t be able to get behind the wheel and be presented with opportunities where this might happen any time they drive.

TheBurlapBandit ,

…in this essay I will explain how my 500 hours in Burnout: Paradise makes me a superior driver…

hellweaver666 ,
@hellweaver666@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

Honestly if you can play that game you must have super human reflexes. I used to play it on the xbox360 and loved it but I’m older now and recently got it on ps5 and I’m just constantly smashing into shit. I would be terrible in a real car!

Jimbo ,
@Jimbo@yiffit.net avatar

You say that, but I’m fully convinced a good rally simulator will help a looot to control a car in adverse conditions

But I could be totally wrong, I do do a lot of real life and sim driving

CapeWearingAeroplane ,

In a sense, I agree that it makes sense to train people to be better technical drivers. The issue is that for avoiding accidents, your time is orders of magnitude better spent practicing planning and avoiding potential situations in the first place.

Being able to see where you need to pay extra attention, what cars to keep extra distance to, and being able to judge what a safe speed is saves far more lives than building the technical skills to get out of a situation once you’re in it.

To be fair though: at least in Norway we have an obligatory course where we drive on sleet/ice or oil to practice controlling a car in winter conditions. However, the main focus of the course is on recognising how fast you can go in different conditions, and how far of a breaking stretch you need to plan for.

datavoid ,

Someone’s been playing grand theft auto

Sooperstition ,

Maybe doing this will also make people more hesitant to get behind the wheel. If more people are aware of the risks of driving, maybe they’ll start to demand alternatives

procrastinator ,

what is the best to respond instead of slamming brakes and turning the wheel?

BigBootyBoy ,
@BigBootyBoy@sh.itjust.works avatar

If you can’t avoid an Infrared Homing AGM-65 Maverick Missile should you really be on the road?

I_Miss_Daniel ,

Dashcam channels can sort of teach you. A defensive driving course is better though.

BurritoBooster ,

Germany’s driving test (and school) is fairly strict and will fail you for small mistakes which is good for beginners but after all, there is no test or reinsurance after some years of driving. After some time, people will see driving as a right not a privilege. This is the case for the vast majority of counties. This is the problem.

Fubarberry ,
@Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz avatar

Problem is that there’s no other alternative for most people. Unless you live in a city, public transportation isn’t a valid option. Most people living in most locations (at least in the US) have to have personal vehicles to attend school/work, shop, and socialize.

Once self driving cars become commonly available, driving will no longer be a requirement and I think that driving licenses should be stricter on who’s allowed to drive.

sbv ,

Problem is that there’s no other alternative for most people. Unless you live in a city, public transportation isn’t a valid option.

Most people live in cities. And if 95% of the electorate can’t drive, you can bet alternatives will be prioritized.

Fubarberry ,
@Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz avatar

Only 45% of people in the US have access to public transportation.

And just having access to some public transportation doesn’t mean you have useful access. Being able to access a bus stop doesn’t help if it won’t take you where you need to go, or if the time schedule isn’t acceptably close to your needed transportation times.

AmosBurton_ThatGuy , (edited )
@AmosBurton_ThatGuy@lemmy.ca avatar

The way I see it is fuck em, if you can’t safely drive and follow the rules to mimimize risk for everyone around you then pay for a taxi or take the bus. No public transport? Get your ass on a bike. Everytime I go out, even for a short 10 minute drive to the grocery store, 90% of the time I see someone doing something insanely stupid and dangerous but because nothing bad comes of it they don’t learn not to do that.

Driving a vehicle should be considered a huge privilege considering how easy it is to kill not just yourself, but others simply by being a dumbass and not taking it seriously enough. People back up without looking, make turns without looking, tons of dumb shit constantly, shit I had someone merge into my lane without even looking when I was right beside them, I had to slam on my brakes to get out of the way and I was only able to do that because there was no one behind me. I honked at them and they just flipped me off. There should also be a forced age limit for being able to drive cause old people are fucking terrible drivers, or at the very least they should have yearly tests past a certain age to ensure they’re still capable of driving.

Drive properly and safely or deal with the massive consequences of not being able to get around quickly. Need a license to get to/do your job? Drive safely or get fucked. Absolutely zero sympathy for shitty drivers.

PepperTwist ,

shit I had someone merge into my lane without even looking when I was right beside them, I had to slam on my brakes to get out of the way and I was only able to do that because there was no one behind me. I honked at them and they just flipped me off

Man, this really pisses me off because I know they know they’re the dumbass who fucked up but their fragile ego can’t take being honked at so they flip you off nevertheless. Hate idiots like that.

AmosBurton_ThatGuy ,
@AmosBurton_ThatGuy@lemmy.ca avatar

It infuriates me, but what’re ya gonna do right? Just gotta deal with the stupidity of the average person unfortunately.

biddy ,

We aren’t saying that they should be driving, quite the opposite. We’re saying that it’s completely fucked that in some places you have to drive to participate in society, precisely because many people shouldn’t. There needs to be alternatives to driving so that law enforcement can remove anyone’s license without effectively placing them in house arrest.

psud ,

If cars became restricted, other options would come up. Better public transport would become available.

You would need an exception though for rural areas

rockhandle ,
@rockhandle@lemm.ee avatar

Imo it’s kinda unavoidable. Humans make mistakes all the time. We could greatly reduce the risk however, if we simply reduced our reliance on independent vehicles. Unfortunately this depends on the place where you live as well but if possible, it would be much safer for the collective majority to bike/walk to areas or use public transport where applicable as it would drop the amount of traffic on the roads

Username2345 ,

Sadly, most cities are build in a way which forces you pretty much to own and drive a car. Everything so far apart and tho public transport may help, tho in some cases is either neglected or badly implemented. Ideally, i think cities should be built around a way that easily allows traveling on foot, bike or with a solid subway and/or bus system.

CherryBlossom01 ,

As a disabled person who’s visually impaired I totally agree with this!

billy_bollocks ,

I think updating the driving test to mandate proving you’re able to drive a stick would thin the herd quite a bit.

Especially in the USA

ARg94 ,

Lol. What a tyrant.

jjagaimo , to nostupidquestions in What is /c/196, and why does it show up so much on All

History wise

195 was a college dorm of a few friends who made a reddit sub to share memes with each other

Over time the sub grew really fast and became a major shitposting sub. I dont remember if it was while 196 was still around or after it shut down, but r/196 was made and became pro lgbt while 195 was kinda a cesspool. The guy running 195 shut it down because they were no longer dorming together or talking, and it was becoming hard to manage a huge sub alone with so many people posting hateful crap

196 became the weird trans femboy lgbt shitpost sub

197 popped up because people didnt like the lgbt stuff and it kinda became more like 195

196 moved here but a lot of people jumping to lemmy havent actually interacted with 196 before do theyre just posting whatever whenever

Kinglink ,

That’s a great explanation. I love the idea of having an “internet historian” (other than the actual internet historian, who really doesn’t talk the origins of the internet). I guess there’s the meme databases but still, this is a great read.

Kolanaki ,
@Kolanaki@yiffit.net avatar

Yeah, what’s up with Internet Historian’s more recent videos? When I first found the dude, he literally did just do history about internet stuff. Now it all just seems like half hour long shit posts with no real info about anything in particular. Just strings of “lol so random” type humor.

Purplexingg ,

The main channel is mostly still kind of an internet history. Concordia was an obvious outlier though. But yeah all of his other stuff is basically just him creating whatever he wants with his friends. Humor for me is kinda hit or miss.

Kinglink , (edited )

You should watch only “Internet Historian” channel, he has alternate channels and those are of mixed quality (all far weaker). I avoid Incognito Mode like the plague, yet he links that channel off his main channel constantly

Silviecat44 ,

I love the incognito mode content

SeaOtter OP ,

Amazing history! Thank you.

Deeordi ,

Best of lemmy summary here

tyfi ,

I wish I could give you an award

imPastaSyndrome ,

Cut that shit out. Just thank them and move on, awards were useless trinkets that fed the spezmachine

tyfi ,

Same with upvotes, right? Lol

klyde ,
@klyde@lemmy.world avatar

Excepts votes cost nothing while morons spend money on an icon instead of just saying thanks. Bit of a difference there.

imPastaSyndrome ,

No, it separated the bad comments from the good for free. The stupid icons were free just long enough to get morons addicted and thinking saying the words “thanks that was very valuable/helpful” wasn’t enough and they had to get the dopamine rush of patting themselves on the back for getting and receiving equally useless golden upvotes.

Pika , (edited )

I was apart of r/196, I never knew there was earlier iterations, I thought it was just a drop a meme and go style place. this is actually interesting.

Silviecat44 ,

Thank you for this explanation

jonne ,

Oh thanks. I used to see them pop up on Reddit and never really got what it was about.

scutiger ,

What’s missing from this description is that the main rule of that sub/community is that you can’t leave without posting something, hence all the “rule” memes.

kratoz29 , to showerthoughts in joining the fediverse to bitch about reddit is the same as going on a date, and spending the whole night talking about your ex

So… Are we on a date? 😳

JonsJava OP ,

I mean, …

nevernevermore ,

we fuckin are now

aaaakolokolokolok ,

we fuckin

Streetdog ,
@Streetdog@lemmy.world avatar

This reminds me of my ex.

Thedogspaw ,

SHUT UP AND WASH THE DISHES

Button777777 ,

THEY’RE ALREADY DONE. I PUT THEM IN WITH THE LAUNDRY

Thedogspaw ,

I JUST MADE MACARONI AND CHEESE

Ichipurka ,

Macaroni of broken dish 😋

beisola ,

I DRANK ALL THE PISS I HAD IN THE FRIDGE (i’m so sorry)

ininewcrow ,
@ininewcrow@lemmy.ca avatar

THAT WASN’T HUMAN PISS!!

NuclearNoggin ,
@NuclearNoggin@lemmy.fmhy.ml avatar

are now

erictile ,

Wii Fucking is my favorite Nintendo game!

xektor17 ,

We are fucking now.

esadatari ,

we now are fuckin

instamat ,

Good, it’s about time. I been harney for ages!

pikachus_ghost_uncle ,

We boyfriend and girlfriend!

LowHangingFruit ,
@LowHangingFruit@laguna.chat avatar

Right beans we finish after

reclipse ,
@reclipse@lemdro.id avatar

Really wish Lemmy had a filter.

Iam ,

Get your coat, you’ve pulled…

EdibleFriend ,
@EdibleFriend@lemmy.world avatar

…feet pics?

jeffw , (edited ) to news in MEGA THREAD - Trump shot but safe, 2 others killed at PA rally
@jeffw@lemmy.world avatar

Do not advocate or celebrate violence, please. Comments advocating violence will be deleted and bans will be issued.

Also, please avoid promoting conspiracies. Discussing current events is fine but suggesting things like “it’s a false flag” without evidence is spreading a conspiracy.

ABCDE ,

A reminder, he incited people Jan 6th which resulted in deaths.

SleezyDizasta ,

That’s not a justification for more violence, two wrongs don’t make a right. He was wrong for doing what he did and this is wrong as well. This is because political violence in it’s entirety is wrong. Jesus, do people not have principles anymore? Seeing all the supposedly moral people turn into Q anon level conspiracy theorists who condone violence is depressing.

otp ,

two wrongs don’t make a right.

You’re right. But let me tell you all about the sympathy I have for him:

.

That’s about it.

SleezyDizasta ,

I don’t have any sympathy for him either, but that’s still not a reason to abandon my principles and start cheering for political violence

ABCDE ,

Why do you keep saying that when I didn’t?

otp ,

I’m not cheering for political violence

SleezyDizasta ,

I’m not saying that you are, I’m just pointing out that, in general, lack of sympathy doesn’t justify political violence. We’re in agreement here.

goferking0 ,

That’s when you say I will happily read their obituary

SOMETHINGSWRONG ,

Let us take this as a reminder for everyone concerned with their own safety in a fascist state.

Guns wont do shit for you unless you regularly practice your marksmanship and keep your equipment in good condition.

A fascist exercised and practiced marksmanship today, did you, dear reader?

ABCDE ,

I didn’t say it was. You just put those words in my mouth.

retrospectology ,
@retrospectology@lemmy.world avatar

Tell me, should we have turned the other cheek during WWII? Two wrongs don’t make a right after all, right?

SleezyDizasta ,

We didn’t join WWII because the Nazis were bad, we joined because Japan attacked Pearl Harbor and then Hitler declared war on the US.

retrospectology ,
@retrospectology@lemmy.world avatar

Exactly, should’ve just turned the other cheek, right?

girlfreddy ,
@girlfreddy@lemmy.ca avatar

Really? You don’t realize that the US didn’t join a war that started in 1939 until 1941 when Japan bombed Pearl Harbor … so was only part of the war for less than 4 years?

Wow!

retrospectology ,
@retrospectology@lemmy.world avatar

You inferred something about Nazis, and now what you’re saying makes no sense as a response to what I’ve been asking you.

I’ll put it more clearly so you can actually give an answer: When Japan bombed Pearl Harbor, you’re saying we should’ve turned the other cheek?

Pandantic ,
@Pandantic@midwest.social avatar

I think this poster is saying: “since you believe two wrongs don’t make a right, then when Japan bombed Pearl Harbor, the correct thing to do in your view would to turn the other cheek.”

SleezyDizasta ,

No, I’m just pointing out that your comparison is flawed. We didn’t know about the Holocaust until the war was almost over. The Soviets were the first to discover and liberate the camps back in 1944 (too bad they ended up having their own brutal camps) and the Americans liberated the first camp they discovered (Ohrdruf) in April 1945… the war in Europe was over in a month. That’s when the then general Eisenhower ordered the American soldiers to find the other camps, free the captives, and take pictures of everything they came across so Nazi crimes can be thoroughly documented and the American public can be made aware of them.

My point is that we didn’t intervene in the war because of what the Nazis were doing like you seem to imply, we intervened because we got attacked and declared war on.

snooggums , (edited )
@snooggums@midwest.social avatar

We didn’t know about the Holocaust until the war was almost over.

It wasn’t confirmed until the war was nearly over. But even before then we knew the Axis powers were slaughtering people while they conquered Europe.

SleezyDizasta ,

Fair, but the situation is similar to what’s happening to Uyghurs in China right now. We know something is going on there, but it’s not exactly sufficient grounds to invade China and intervene.

snooggums ,
@snooggums@midwest.social avatar

Right, but China hasn’t invaded another country on top of the genocide.

SleezyDizasta ,

I mean one could argue that Tibet is an invaded country, but that’s besides the point. The only way we would realistically intervene is if China decides to either invade an American ally like Taiwan, Japan, or South Korea or if they directly attack and declare war on the US proper. Even then, it would be quite a stretch for us to have soldiers reach western China, but if we did and if our soldiers found camps where people are imprisoned, then we would have a similar reaction to what we saw towards the end of WWII. However, until then, we don’t have sufficient grounds to invade a major world power.

thermal_shock ,

technically two negatives multiplied does.

ByteOnBikes ,

So you’re telling me conservatives will realize this has gone to far and tell everyone to remain calm and peaceful?

SleezyDizasta ,

The reasonable conservatives have already jumped off ship a long time ago and are now mostly either apolitical, independent, disenfranchised Democrat, or still a minority Republican opposing Trump. The only ones left that support Trump are his cult, and they will never see reason. However, we can’t get rid them with violence. It’s like what America tried to do with the Taliban or Israel is trying to do now with Hamas or what Saudi Arabia has tried to do with the Houthis, you can’t use violence to get rid of ideologies. The way to get rid of ideologies is to make them irrelevant. This can happen either by defeating them in democratic elections or using their track records to delegitimatize them or ignoring them or providing better alternatives or whatever. Political violence will only fuel them, and that is something I don’t want to see.

SkyNTP ,

Mhmm. Where exactly do you draw the line regarding use of force as a preventative measure?

SleezyDizasta ,

When it’s used as a means to achieve power in a democracy. Normalizing violence is not okay in general, but especially during democratic elections, and this applies to everybody regardless of who does it.

KillingTimeItself ,

one wrong plus another wrong, generally seems to overthrow most rights throughout the history of man kind.

I’m not sure what to do with this information, but it’s present.

SleezyDizasta ,

If by rights you mean you human rights then normalized widespread violence tends to do that, that’s the whole reason why tyranny isn’t exactly good.

KillingTimeItself , (edited )

if by wrongs you mean human wrongs, then i have no idea what you’re talking about.

SleezyDizasta ,

What?

KillingTimeItself ,

same, you and me both.

SleezyDizasta ,

the word right has different meaning in different contexts, I assumed you were talking about human rights as in the legally protected privileges that are granted to people… idk wtf you’re talking about

KillingTimeItself ,

unless the phrase “two wrongs don’t make a right” is referring to human rights, i was making an extension on that phrase.

HappycamperNZ ,

The death of Hitler, sadam hussein, Bin laden and all the others who threatened the free world disagree.

SLfgb ,

free world

lmao

HappycamperNZ ,

While its not perfect you could easily be alot more oppressed. Democracy dies when people stop fighting for it.

SLfgb ,

The US invaded Iraq under GW Bush on a lie about WMD’s. Killed Saddam and countless Iraqis, including journalists, for nothing. The US invaded Afghanistan rather than negotiate with its ruling power to hand over Bin Laden, then didn’t get their hands on him for another decade even though the US won the war and took over the country from day 1. 20+ years of bloody occupation later you lost the war and the Taliban is back in power. Another pointess war started with deception. Don’t get me started on Vietnam. You guys have some twisted idea of democracy where the ‘Democrats’ don’t even elect their own candidates. Please stop exporting democracy. The world doesn’t want your perverse version. Hitler killed himself btw.

RoboRay ,

The US invaded Afghanistan rather than negotiate with its ruling power to hand over Bin Laden

To be fair, the US did try to negotiate with Afghanistan to extradite Bin Laden and the Taliban refused.

SLfgb ,

The US did not really try to negotiate with the Taliban regime. The US just demanded the Taliban hand them over, then refused a quite reasonable condition to show some evidence that Al Qaeda was responsible for the attack.

At a news conference in Islamabad, the Taliban ambassador said he was sorry that people had died in the suicide attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon last week, but appealed to the United States not to endanger innocent people in a military retaliation.

“Our position on this is that if America has proof, we are ready for the trial of Osama bin Laden in light of the evidence.”

Conflating a government or regime with an international terrorist organisation is the lie the propaganda told you to accept invading and occupying an impoverished foreign country that had just gone through a famine.

Eatspancakes84 ,

Hitler committted suicide. Any insight in how the other executions actually improved the world?

in4aPenny ,

Millions of fascists were murdered to win WW2, are you saying we should’ve used strong debate language instead?

SleezyDizasta ,

But these are vastly different situations. For the record, all three of these individuals used political violence to achieve political aims, that’s one of the reasons why history doesn’t remember them fondly. The constantly killed people they didn’t like under the justification that it’s for the greater good or self defense. Saddam Hussien did that when he genocided the Kurds in Iraq and the invasion Kuwait, Hitler did that with the Holocaust and the invasion of Europe, and Bin Laden did that with 9/11 and the other terrorist attacks he launched.

Keep in mind, we actually have a justice system in this country that actually works. If we want Trump to face justice it has to go through the justice where he faces trial and is found guilty based on evidence… which has already happened btw for one of his crimes. That’s how justice is handled in a civil democracy. We can’t have randos going on self righteous terrorism crusades killing political candidates they don’t like. If someone tried assassinate Biden, would you being say the same? Probably not, and rightfully so, but the terrorist who tried to kill would be making similar justifications to what you’re trying to make right now. The very idea is wrong.

RampantParanoia2365 ,

Donald Trump intentionally and maliciously mishandled an epidemic and allowed it to turn pandemic for his own stupid and shortsighted political gains. He then intentionally hindered national response.

And then he intentionally incited a literal insurrection. He has absolutely employed political violence.

SleezyDizasta ,

I’m not here to defend him. He’s one of the worst of the presidents in our history. His list of horrendous acts goes far beyond his pandemic response and the insurrection, and it goes was past his presidency too. He’s truly awful. But with that being said, things like assassinations and terrorism should not become normalized as a legitimate way of achieving political means.

crazyminner ,

A wrong makes a right if it prevents many many horrible wrongs in the future.

SleezyDizasta ,

The ends don’t justify the means politics, that’s how you end up with terrorism, tyrannical governments, and atrocities. I’m all for bringing Trump to justice, but it has be done through civil and democratic means via the established criminal justice system. If Trump goes through trial and is found guilty, which has already happened for one of his crimes, then our criminal justice system will punish him accordingly. If the punishments aren’t deemed harsh enough then we reform our punitive laws. We can’t have self righteous assholes going on terrorism crusades assassinating political candidates they don’t like. That’s a sign of a failed state.

ProtecyaTec ,

Tyrannical governments rise from apathy. The final governmental check is its people.

SleezyDizasta ,

True, which is why now is the most important time to condemn political violence, get people politically active, and vote to keep the fascist wannabes out of power.

SLfgb ,

Ikr!

DoucheBagMcSwag ,

This shit was never here before because it’s likely CYA mode for Lemmy because feds could come sniffing here if copycat incidents occur.

KillingTimeItself ,

bro the feds are already sniffing lemmy you think they arent?

They’re sniffing lemmy just like their sniffing literally every other social media platform right now.

anindefinitearticle ,

There is a difference between background-level bulk sniffing and someone-here-maybe-incited-violence targeted sniffing. The former is data collection, which is passive in the form practiced by “the feds”. The latter is data connection, putting effort into connecting a subset of the data that has been collected to form a story. Data connections need a framing, a nucleation seed, an impetus for why the feds might think such a connection is interesting or relevant or worth adding to their story about a larger incident. Collecting data is cheap and done in bulk, partly because it can be done passively and partly because the US govt paid a lot of money on storage and collection mechanisms. Connecting data is something that requires a lot more time, effort, patience, and vetting to make sure you are doing it right.

Or you can give the job to generative AI and hope it doesn’t hallucinate that someone innocent is guilty; with a large enough data pool (ie the internet, reality, what-have-you) it’s possible to select a misleading subset to support whatever hallucination you want.

It’s easy to do wrong, which is exactly why you don’t want the feds sniffing around. Especially now that they have the tools to automate doing it wrong, and might not know how to use them yet.

KillingTimeItself ,

yeah obviously, but it’s all the same at the end of the day. And they definitely have people actively sniffing around social media posts surrounding this at the moment.

this_1_is_mine ,

Is it not actually called the fed…averse…

jeffw ,
@jeffw@lemmy.world avatar

Oh so that’s why my official Lemmy moderator paycheck comes from the FBI?

(This is a joke, we are not paid)

KillingTimeItself ,

the M stands for Money :)

KillingTimeItself ,

fed i verse.

Federal investigation universe. Checkmate.

goferking0 ,

Or all the domestic violence

queue ,
@queue@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Violence demands self defense. Today was an act to try and save everyone.

kylie_kraft ,

And instead we got a guarantee of actual fascism in America. This was a stupid, selfish move.

queue ,
@queue@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Better than keeping quiet and hoping it gets better.

this_1_is_mine ,

deleted_by_moderator

  • Loading...
  • mp3 ,
    @mp3@lemmy.ca avatar

    Now a single deranged person forced that path in history instead of letting democracy runs its course.

    whoreticulture ,

    deleted_by_moderator

  • Loading...
  • gedaliyah ,
    @gedaliyah@lemmy.world avatar

    The post in question was removed for Celebrating Violence. Please note previous user comment for context.

    whoreticulture ,

    deleted_by_moderator

  • Loading...
  • gedaliyah ,
    @gedaliyah@lemmy.world avatar

    The comment in question was removed for celebrating and advocating violence, which violates lemmy.world Server Terms of Service

    timewarp ,
    @timewarp@lemmy.world avatar

    How many deaths did it result in? Cause there is only one death on Jan 6 that has ever been attributed to Jan 6.

    I don’t disagree that he incited the insurrection, but making false claims doesn’t help show that the left is the party of honesty.

    lolcatnip ,

    The left isn’t even a party, genius.

    ABCDE ,

    The left, who? What party?

    factcheck.org/…/how-many-died-as-a-result-of-capi…

    Babbitt plus suicides, and other “natural” deaths.

    On March 7, the District of Columbia’s Police and Firefighters’ Retirement and Relief Board declared that Metropolitan Police Officer Jeffrey Smith’s suicide in the days after the Jan. 6 riot was a line-of-duty death. The board concluded “that Officer Smith sustained a personal injury on January 6, 2021, while performing his duties and that his injury was the sole and direct cause of his death.

    retrospectology ,
    @retrospectology@lemmy.world avatar

    Why are you pretending like right-wing violence isn’t the literal leading domestic security threat?

    Have you been living under a rock since 2016?

    AbidanYre ,

    2016? It’s been since at least the 90s.

    retrospectology ,
    @retrospectology@lemmy.world avatar

    Well, yeah, I mean, we can go back a hundred years, conservatives will always be pushing violence and division whatever era you look at since they can’t hold power without it, I mostly mean it’s come out fully into the open since 2016. The mask dropped off completely and they’re no longer even pretending to be anything but the Confederacy 2.0.

    JJROKCZ ,

    Hey numbnuts, America doesn’t have a left and it’s the MAGA fascists that are the problem here

    ByteOnBikes ,

    That’s the wild thing.

    This is a “Oh no what will Cheeto say to start a riot?”

    aStonedSanta ,

    Two wrongs do not make a right though.

    Cryophilia ,

    Ehhhh

    Bear_pile ,

    But 3 rights make a left

    Xtallll ,
    @Xtallll@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

    But 1 click on a windage knob would have.

    daltotron ,

    This is funnier retrospectively because apparently this fucking dumbass wasn’t even using an optic. insanity

    Ensign_Crab ,

    And his cult still defends the insurrectionists.

    CileTheSane ,
    @CileTheSane@lemmy.ca avatar

    Unless it’s more convenient to call them Antifa.

    DoucheBagMcSwag ,

    Didn’t know this was the “othe r/ place” now…but… Okay.

    barkingspiders ,

    This community can be whatever it wants to be. If you want to advocate for violence you are free to do that elsewhere in the fediverse. Just not here.

    2484345508 ,

    Talk shit get shot.

    Wilzax ,

    deleted_by_moderator

  • Loading...
  • SLfgb ,

    How do you spread a conspiracy? I think you mean speculation.

    orcrist ,

    My friend, you know exactly what they mean. Don’t push a “well maybe somebody set it up because …” theory unless you have facts to back it up.

    SLfgb ,

    I take issue with inaccurate language. This is how trains crash. A conspiracy is where 2 or more people plan something in secret. A conspiracy theory is where an outsider speculates about the nature of such plans. Also, without wanting to speculate myself, logically it was either a lone actor or a group conspiring, since it clearly wasn’t publicised in advance. I personally doubt it was some grand conspiracy.

    Wilzax ,

    Obviously someone set this up, bullets don’t just appear out of nowhere. It may have just been the gunman who acted entirely alone. We have no evidence that anyone worked with the gunman but what’s that saying about the absence of evidence?

    echodot ,

    Yeah but there’s also no evidence that this was anything other than a single person acting on their own. Most loan shooters are actually loners.

    jeffw ,
    @jeffw@lemmy.world avatar

    The issue is the volume of comments about this being faked entirely or a false flag.

    orcrist ,

    You can’t use the English language in an openly misleading fashion and expect that people are going to go along with it, not in a situation like this. The expression “someone set this up” clearly implies the existence of a second person.

    What made you think that another person is involved? Nothing. If we were to look at historical evidence, we would find that a lot of these situations are done by so-called lone wolf attackers. So if we’re going to blindly speculate, we should at least be consistent with historical evidence, and we should certainly speak unambiguously.

    afraid_of_zombies ,

    I would like facts that back up you claim to know what your “friend” was thinking

    HappycamperNZ ,

    I know you have to say this, but holy shit do I disagree.

    This person advocated significant violence and contributed to the deaths and loss of human rights of thousands. A good whack of the world would turn up hungover to work tomorrow after celebrating only a few inches over.

    Drewelite ,

    No better fuel for an extremist ideology then having a martyr. Trump isn’t the problem, it’s the millions who listen to him.

    echodot ,

    The best thing Trump could do is just die of natural causes after a long illness, so everyone can see his death coming and get used to the idea, and with no focusing point his merry band of lunatics dissolve back into the etha. They have always existed, but Trump acts as a catalyst to get them all worked up.

    JustARaccoon ,

    People would still scream bloody conspiracy, “it wasn’t old age, he was poisoned!”

    Draedron ,

    Trump is the problem since he is the leader of the cult. Without him they dont know who to follow. If Hitler had been assassinated in one the many attemps there might have still been a WW2 but depending on how early on he was assassinated millions of people would not have been killed in concentration camps. This would have been early enough to prevent much damage Trump will do. Better would have been 2016 but that didnt happen sadly.

    Carrolade ,

    Everyone is forgetting Ron De Santis candidacy. Trump isn’t even gone yet and another guy already tried to rise to lead MAGA.

    I fully know its pleasant to fantasize about easy solutions to difficult problems, but the world isn’t that simple.

    JJROKCZ ,

    Trump is absolutely the problem when he’s the mouthpiece of American fascism. Why are we pretending his death would be bad? We’re a couple years from having concentration camps in the US if he wins and everyone’s wringing their hands over this attempt at saving millions of lives by taking one.

    Yea it might cause a civil war, that looks unavoidable at this point anyway. I’d rather civil war than concentration camps

    Drewelite ,

    They’re still waving the Confederate flag. What makes you think bullets will kill this ideology in round 2?

    snooggums ,
    @snooggums@midwest.social avatar

    It would silence one of the most successful voices and hamper the movement, not kill the ideology itself.

    Drewelite ,

    And how do you kill the ideology? By having the most successful voice of it ultimately accomplish nothing and die as a sad old man.

    There’s a reason his rhetoric has been: “The election was stolen!” Because that feeling is powerful, that they were right on the cusp of doing something great, if only the enemy hadn’t poisoned it. It’s got the right mix of victimization and hope that really motivates a movement. You’ll get that 10x now that he’s victimized. And you’d get it 20x if he’s martyred.

    snooggums ,
    @snooggums@midwest.social avatar

    You can’t kill any ideology.

    Nazis are still around.

    Confederate apologists are still around.

    The only effective end to the tyrrany of their ideology when it had enough momentum wasn’t strong words and voting. MAGA is about three small steps from turning the US into a literal fascist state.

    The only thing that holds authoritarian regimes like the MAGA crowd together are narcissists like Trump. They would collapse without someone as good at stoking their anger, and he really is the only one that is personally revered by the MAGA crowd. Sure, other grifters make money and get ciews, but nobody cares when the other grifters like Alex Jones face some justice.

    Drewelite ,

    He’s the only one because he’s still around. If he died yesterday we’d have someone new leading the charge by election time.

    You’ve specifically pointed out ideologies that weren’t allowed to die because of how oppressed they were. I’m not suggesting we shouldn’t have fought the Nazis, but victory inherently creates an oppressed underdog that people love to rally around.

    The ideologies that die are the ones that fail on their own and people lose faith in. Think monarchies, feudalism, mercantilism, the OG version of Communism, colonialism, etc… So ideally we won’t want to use force if at all possible. Let them lose election after election until they realize they’ve alienated too many people to ever be successful.

    snooggums ,
    @snooggums@midwest.social avatar

    He’s the only one because he’s still around. If he died yesterday we’d have someone new leading the charge by election time.

    He was the only one to get the MAGA movement rolling, there isn’t anyone waiting in the wings to take his spot.

    Drewelite ,

    Ron DeSantis already tried. He only failed because Trump is still around. The GOP learned that they need to wait for him to leave the scene before they try again.

    Cuttlefish1111 , (edited )

    We can educate and shame a population for voicing their support for said fascism. In fact it was working pretty well until Trump made it ok to be a bigot publicly again. That’s what’s the whole MAGA thing is about

    OccamsRazer ,

    Concentration camps? Do you actually believe that or have it based on anything?

    whoreticulture ,

    They don’t have to say that.

    Emmie ,

    Lemmy users when they can’t advocate violence:

    young_guy_straining.jpg

    Draedron ,

    Advocating for violence to prevent a fascist from abolishing the democracy is the only acceptable violence. Sometimes a democracy has to be protected violently if it is too weak to protect itself. Trump allies always say its why they have the second amendment. Now that it is used against them they cry about it.

    Emmie , (edited )

    Violence is rarely good for anything as we have seen it just now. It would be better even if this guy shot at Biden that’s how counterproductive it is.

    Modern problems aren’t solved with blood but with marketing. You cannot kill an idea but you can ridicule it

    You cannot just eradicate everyone who opposes you. China tried, Soviets too. Now they have something vastly better - troll farms.

    Riccosuave ,
    @Riccosuave@lemmy.world avatar

    Modern problems aren’t solved with blood but with marketing.

    Tell that to the Ukrainians and the Palestinians. I know you want this to be the case, but you couldn’t be more wrong if you tried.

    Emmie ,

    In both cases they didn’t solve anything and only made things worse for themselves

    Riccosuave ,
    @Riccosuave@lemmy.world avatar

    You’re right, better to allow a violent oppressor to slowly eradicate your people than attempt to free or defend yourself by whatever means necessary…

    Emmie , (edited )

    Eh I think you guys see what you want to see in my comment. I was talking about Russia. putin attacked Ukraine, it was insane in any case and what did he got out of it really?

    The violence on Ukraine was just plain stupid.

    I am kinda surprised and amused you take me for some pacifist goodie two shoes, other cheek blah blah. funny from my pov. Idk how you extracted that from my comment, I bet you will now continue to argue with something that doesn’t exist. My congratulations

    Daxtron2 ,

    Because you replied to a comment about ukrainians and Palestinians and said it accomplished nothing.

    Emmie ,

    I wish I could continue this but I am hella stoned now. I am glad or sorry it happend

    Emmie ,

    I am actually almost flying now

    Daxtron2 ,

    Lmao enjoy your high bud.

    shiroininja ,

    Appeasement of an aggressor never works. History has taught this over and over and over again. We still haven’t learned I see. I’m mainly talking about Ukraine. Palestine is a lot more complex.

    Evil_incarnate ,

    Not sure what you mean, but Ukraine and Zelensky have been marketing themselves all over the place. They need all the help they can get, and they are doing whatever they can to boost support. So far pootin hasn’t achieved his goals so it’s working.

    Wxnzxn ,
    @Wxnzxn@lemmy.ml avatar

    Your last point is actually not a bad analysis - but it is missing that the ones operating their propaganda and troll farms already also control the violence monopoly. And both entities also use violence where they deem it practical.

    Emmie ,

    Lol how kind of you, thank you I guess

    the_crotch ,

    Everybody thinks their form of violence is the only acceptable violence.

    NoSpiritAnimal ,
    @NoSpiritAnimal@lemmy.world avatar

    The paradox of tolerance is only a paradox if you don’t believe in the social contract.

    Beliefs that violate the social contract deserve no protection under it.

    Draedron ,

    Why not? Isnt that what americans claim the second amendment is for?Prevent fascism?

    pachrist ,

    Sic semper tyrannis.

    irotsoma ,
    @irotsoma@lemmy.world avatar

    Communism, not Fascism, or to protect workers’ rights if you go back far enough. We only got involved in fighting fascism because we were drawn into the war, otherwise it’s never been that big of an issue to Americans and many schools aren’t even allowed to teach about it anymore because “kids shouldn’t have to feel bad about something like that” or whatever excuses the far right is currently using to prevent their schools from teaching about Anne Frank, concentration camps, slavery, anything else they want to implement themselves.

    aniki ,

    All rights are won through violence, child. Bans on here means less than the nothing platitudes you utter

    whoreticulture ,

    deleted_by_moderator

  • Loading...
  • aniki ,

    See how effective bans on the fediverse are?

    Worthless powertripping mods getting off on the tiny bit of power they have on an irrelevant corner of the internet.

    Tale as old as time.

    All rights are won through violence.

    gedaliyah ,
    @gedaliyah@lemmy.world avatar

    In this context, the comment appears to be advocating specific violence.

    Please do not repost removed comments. You can link to the comment or mod log if there is a question about a specific moderation decision.

    p5yk0t1km1r4ge ,
    @p5yk0t1km1r4ge@lemmy.world avatar

    deleted_by_moderator

  • Loading...
  • whoreticulture ,

    deleted_by_moderator

  • Loading...
  • p5yk0t1km1r4ge , (edited )
    @p5yk0t1km1r4ge@lemmy.world avatar

    I’m still here I see. Here’s the precious source since I’m full of shit.

    politico.com/…/leader-of-the-pro-trump-project-20…

    NEW YORK — The leader of a conservative think tank orchestrating plans for a massive overhaul of the federal government in the event of a Republican presidential win said that the country is in the midst of a “second American Revolution” that will be bloodless “if the left allows it to be.”

    Why, exactly, should we simply lie over and do nothing? How is calling for violence over this bad?

    whoreticulture ,

    He said Monday’s decision — which gives presidents broad immunity from prosecution — is “vital” to ensure a president won’t have to “second guess, triple guess every decision they’re making in their official capacity.”

    😬😬😬

    Yeah, last thing I want is for the president to have to think through their decisions.

    Blackbeard ,
    @Blackbeard@lemmy.world avatar

    Original comment was removed for violating Lemmy’s content policy, and subsequent comment was removed for reposting the original.

    whoreticulture ,

    deleted_by_moderator

  • Loading...
  • gedaliyah ,
    @gedaliyah@lemmy.world avatar

    The post in question was removed for advocating violence. The mod log is public, including the original content, so it is not necessary to repost a removed comment for transparency.

    whoreticulture ,

    “no actual discussion allowed” got it

    jeffw ,
    @jeffw@lemmy.world avatar

    If the only way you can discuss an assassination is by advocating for additional violence and pushing lies, then I guess not?

    whoreticulture ,

    You are limiting discussion to centrist viewpoints, centrism caters towards permissive attitudes towards fascism. You know this.

    whoreticulture ,

    “hey guys don’t politicize an attempted political assassination”

    jeffw ,
    @jeffw@lemmy.world avatar

    Not really what I said at all. “Hey guys, don’t make stuff up, please rely on credible sources, and don’t advocate for violence”.

    Or, in other words: follow the rules we’ve always had in place

    whoreticulture ,

    Advocating for, or not advocating for, violence is a political stance. Many people defend Israel’s ongoing genocide and are not blocked from doing so. That doesn’t feel like the rules being consistently enforced. The people speculating on whether or not this is staged have access to the same information as everyone else, and in the spirit of true discourse, if it was seen to be false you could figure that out by discussion rather than censorship.

    Blackbeard ,
    @Blackbeard@lemmy.world avatar

    If you have evidence that it was staged, feel free to share it. If you don’t, then we ask that you not speculate. It’s no different than any other claim for which we’d require a basic amount of credible substantiation.

    whoreticulture ,

    I don’t personally think it was staged, but be honest … it’s not like you delete every single comment that doesn’t have sources …

    Blackbeard ,
    @Blackbeard@lemmy.world avatar

    We remove comments that make objectively false claims, especially when they involve life or death situations. Covid misinformation is a good example.

    whoreticulture ,

    Speculating on an event that has already occured is not a “life or death situation” in the way spreading information that discourages the use of life-saving vaccines is.

    Blackbeard ,
    @Blackbeard@lemmy.world avatar

    Given the state of American discourse right now, I’m going to hard disagree with you there.

    whoreticulture ,

    So you’re making moderation policy based on an assumption that people who have been exposed to the idea that the shooting may have been staged are more likely to incite violence than people who haven’t been? You don’t have source for that stance do you? One could argue that believing it is a failed assassination attempt would also incite people to violence. If a comment in particular calls for violence, thats one thing, but what you’re saying is not logical.

    Blackbeard ,
    @Blackbeard@lemmy.world avatar

    No, we are not. Our sidebar rules are posted and have not changed, nor have the rules of Lemmy.

    whoreticulture ,

    You said you are restricting discussion on whether the assassination was staged because it is a life or death situation. You have not provided compelling evidence that one form of speculation is more or less “life or death” than another.

    Blackbeard , (edited )
    @Blackbeard@lemmy.world avatar

    No, we did not. We are not restricting discussion (those are your words) because this is a life and death situation. We are requiring sources for life or death claims, and we are removing purely speculative and baseless assertions of fact, because this is a life and death situation.

    whoreticulture ,

    We are not restricting discussion (those are your words) because this is a life and death situation.

    we are removing purely speculative and baseless assertions of fact, because this is a life and death situation.

    So one, like I said, it’s not really a life and death situation. And secondly, in the immediate aftermath of an event, practically everything is speculation.

    Blackbeard ,
    @Blackbeard@lemmy.world avatar
    1. Hard disagree.
    2. Not everything, no.
    whoreticulture ,

    So you’re kind of just imposing your opinion about the “life or death” situation thing. I see tons of posts advocating trans-medicalist views, that I would consider a life or death situation… but the comments removed are the ones using appropriately harsh language to call them out.

    And yes, esp w the recent news that the shooter was a conservative. It makes sense to speculate.

    p5yk0t1km1r4ge ,
    @p5yk0t1km1r4ge@lemmy.world avatar

    Here’s your source.

    politico.com/…/leader-of-the-pro-trump-project-20…

    NEW YORK — The leader of a conservative think tank orchestrating plans for a massive overhaul of the federal government in the event of a Republican presidential win said that the country is in the midst of a “second American Revolution” that will be bloodless “if the left allows it to be.”

    It’s INSANE to me that you’d suggest we do nothing or even promote political violence over this.

    Blackbeard ,
    @Blackbeard@lemmy.world avatar

    The Lemmy.World content policy prohibits advocacy of violence. We are enforcing the rules of Lemmy, not our own personal preferences. If you prefer an instance without such limitations, you are free to engage with another instance.

    girlfreddy , (edited )
    @girlfreddy@lemmy.ca avatar

    Yet you seem to think acting like a petulant child is appropriate. Some of us have had our hands slapped because we crossed a line. But you can still act like an adult when it happens.

    If you don’t like the rules, fine. Then go elsewhere.

    p5yk0t1km1r4ge ,
    @p5yk0t1km1r4ge@lemmy.world avatar

    …its nice to see how complacent and naive we have all become. Pathetic. This country deserves what’s coming if that’s the mind-set.

    afraid_of_zombies ,

    The virus was studied by multiple different healthcare agencies across multiple different continents.

    This is not comparable to the performance yesterday.

    Blackbeard ,
    @Blackbeard@lemmy.world avatar

    I didn’t compare a vaccine to an assassination attempt.

    afraid_of_zombies , (edited )

    Yes you personally did not compare the vaccine to the performance yesterday, that doesn’t mean other members of the mod team in this thread did not.

    Edit: oh my bad you did, sorry about that.

    “Covid misinformation is a good example.”

    whoreticulture ,

    Should I start reporting every comment that doesn’t have sources? 😂😂

    jeffw ,
    @jeffw@lemmy.world avatar

    If someone has made a claim that runs counter to commonly acknowledged information, please report it. If you need a few examples…

    You would need a source to say:

    • “the new COVID vaccine is dangerous because it has killed people”
    • “Donald Trump faked an attack on his life”
    • “this new medical treatment is extremely effective”

    You would NOT need a source to say:

    • “Donald Trump was subject of an assassination attempt” (commonly known and widely speculated to be an assassination attempt)
    • A personal preference like “Chocolate cake is the best kind of cake”
    whoreticulture ,

    “widely speculated” … like I said, I don’t think it was staged, but it’s clear that most of what is being stated the day after this event is speculation.

    afraid_of_zombies ,
    jeffw ,
    @jeffw@lemmy.world avatar

    Saying that someone who shot a president is likely an assassination attempt is not a logical fallacy. There are pretty much 2 possibilities: targeted attack and random acts of violence. The fact that he seemed to be aiming at Trump suggests the former.

    afraid_of_zombies ,

    There are pretty much 2 possibilities:

    What methods did you use to eliminate a false flag operation?

    jeffw ,
    @jeffw@lemmy.world avatar

    Common sense and the ability to view photographic evidence

    afraid_of_zombies ,

    common sense

    Is not a shield

    Photographic evidence

    May I see the pictures that could not have been faked please?

    afraid_of_zombies ,

    pushing lies

    How did you determine what was true in this situation and what was false? I am curious about your methodology.

    jeffw ,
    @jeffw@lemmy.world avatar

    True: confirmed information. False: unconfirmed information of a speculative nature. Do you see a specific issue you disagree with or are you just trying to argue?

    afraid_of_zombies ,

    You are just moving the problem around via definitions not actually saying what method you used to know exactly what happened yesterday.

    All I asked is how you arrived at the truth. Did you see evidence that the general public didn’t? Because what I am seeing is you all are so absolutely certain you have literally compared it to Covid misinformation. Amazing, a 30 hour news event is so well understood you can compare our knowledge of it to the single most studied virus in human history months after a new variant had appeared.

    It is not unreasonable how you were able to obtain information the rest of us apparently do not have and how you were able to eliminate all other alternatives so quickly.

    Enfors ,
    @Enfors@lemm.ee avatar

    spreading a conspiracy

    I know this is off-topic, but can we please go back to saying “conspiracy theory”? Conspiracy and conspiracy theories are not the same. There are actual conspiracies (a secret plan by a group to do something unlawful or harmful) , and there are theories of conspiracies. They should not be confused.

    Malfeasant ,

    Surprised you’re not already banned just for the c-word. I mean, if someone crashes their car through a storefront, I could speculate without evidence that the driver was excessively old, young, drunk, or just plain stupid and it’s left up to the reader to take my comment with a grain of salt, but if I so much as entertain the possibility of this shooting being anything besides what is being reported by official channels, I must be silenced.

    aniki ,

    ALL RIGHTS ARE WON THROUGH VIOLENCE

    Audacious ,

    How do the people get justice for a convicted criminal that’s above the law? Is there a reason why the constitution has an amendment for guns? Why are so many platforms against the constitution and against the need for correct course when apt?

    Stop acting like corpo reddit admins and mods.

    OldWoodFrame ,

    “Convicted criminal” who is “above the law?”

    Seems like he was convicted, thus not above the law.

    You keep him from being president by getting enough people to vote against him, or you accept the will of the people.

    The 2nd Amendment was originally to make sure militias weren’t disarmed, in a time when militias were more relevant. Has nothing to do with political assassination.

    FordBeeblebrox ,

    How about when said political candidate openly calls for violence and murder against his opponents, to the point of asking the Supreme Court if he could assassinate people.

    Maybe the 2nd amendment comes in to play a little? Last I checked we didn’t vote king George off our shores.

    OldWoodFrame ,

    But we did vote Trump out of office, and he left. That’s the difference between Republics and Monarchies.

    FordBeeblebrox ,

    We also voted Gore IN office but whatever.

    Orange Julius has become a cult god and is literally talking about assassinating rivals

    …that’s the difference between republics and monarchies

    Also this has been an oligarchy the whole time anyone who thinks republic is either willfully or unintentionally ignorant

    OldWoodFrame ,

    We did not vote Gore or Hillary into office. They got more popular votes and lost in electoral votes, and only electoral votes count for president. They lost fair and square, in the system we have.

    No the difference between republics and monarchies is not “talking about assassinating rivals.” You can say anything, that is anyone’s right. In the context from above, this difference is why political assassination is not acceptable in a republic. It would be insane to say that political assassination is OK if the person had ever talked about assassinating rivals. The penalty for distasteful speech is not death.

    Audacious ,

    He left after his last stand Jan 6. There is lots of news coverage of that, with many arrested as well. There are plenty of vids of Trump talking about Jan 6 people, not condemning them.

    Also answer one question: What was Trump asking Pence to do on Jan 6?

    OldWoodFrame ,

    Trump was asking Pence to return legally cast electoral votes to the states for reconsideration on false pretenses. Yes obviously bad and we don’t want a president who would do such a thing. But not assassination worthy.

    Audacious ,

    Do you think a convicted criminal should be walking around free?

    OldWoodFrame ,

    While they await sentencing? If a judge allows it, obviously yes. People have lives and jobs, if they might not even get prison time it would be cruel to force them into all the downsides of prison time (lose your job, child care difficulties) and then let them go.

    Trump would be more impacted by his inability to campaign, but we only have one justice system and I don’t want to betray my beliefs on how the justice system works just because I don’t like this guy’s politics.

    Audacious ,

    Most sit in jail until sentencing, and the time spent waiting will be accounted with the sentencing. I say most, because only the king walks around free.

    Also convicted criminals people should not run for president. The corrupted courts made a new law, something they don’t have the power to do, where the criminals can run, explicitly the hitler felon.

    Schadrach ,

    Also convicted criminals people should not run for president. The corrupted courts made a new law, something they don’t have the power to do, where the criminals can run, explicitly the hitler felon.

    No, they didn’t. There’s just nothing that requires a candidate for president not be a convicted felon, other than the willingness of people to vote for them.

    Gobbel2000 , to linux in Top comment gets to choose my hostname
    @Gobbel2000@feddit.de avatar

    lemmy.made.me.look.at.this.each.time.i.open.a.terminal

    Hostnames can be up to 64 characters long in Linux.

    moonleay OP ,

    Oh god

    possiblylinux127 ,

    I was scrolling to find something good like this

    moonleay OP ,

    This seems to be the most popular one, though I can’t use it in the way its written here, because it will fuck up DNS. I’ll substitute the dots with dashes and then it should work.

    Deckweiss ,

    Post a proof screnshot please

    moonleay OP ,
    someonesmall ,

    I appreciate you sticking to your word, but this is just stupid. Petition to change it to something sane

    SheeEttin ,

    I’m pretty sure you can use dots in record data. I know you can use them in zone names.

    sunred ,
    @sunred@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

    Most shells usually default to a truncated version of the hostname that only uses the hostname up to the first dot. Of course one can change that by setting the PS1 env var and using (in case of bash) H instead of h.

    Agility0971 , (edited )
    @Agility0971@lemmy.world avatar

    I tried with emojiea and it worked. what would break it though?

    edit: nvm something broke after a reboot. neofetch reports the hostname as ‘archlinux’ instead of whatever is inside /etc/hostname. matlab drive connector reset and initializer dialog poped up which it did not do before.

    lud ,

    Hostnames can be up to 64 characters long in Linux.

    But should they?

    ^No

    Duamerthrax , to news in [Mega thread] - Biden ends bid for presidency

    An aside, I hate that this was posted to twitter before it was posted to Biden’s own website or the White House’s website first.

    Psythik ,

    This is why the internet sucks now. Nobody maintains their own websites anymore. These days everybody just posts everything on the same handful of centralized megacorp websites. Social media killed the golden age of the web.

    elvith ,

    There are some exceptions that still live by the POSSE*-principle, but they’re rare.

    *Post to Own Site, Syndicate/Share Everywhere

    SpaceCowboy ,
    @SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca avatar

    Well Trump posts stuff to his own website :P

    But yeah, I agree. And there’s no excuse for it really. Sure a regular person only posting to a single social media makes sense, but anyone that has staff should be able post to their own website, issue a press release, post on Twitter, Mastodon, Facebook, Blue Sky, Reddit, etc. I mean once you have the statement finalized it’s just copy & paste to get it on all platforms. It seems bizarre that they don’t do this.

    the_post_of_tom_joad ,

    Ey yo at least this place exists

    Duamerthrax ,

    This is essentially a very fancy forum. I wouldn’t expect corporations or politicians to be posting here. Maybe they could host their own instance and federate. In principle, that would mean they’re paying for their own hosting and have control over their message being altered.

    wanderingmagus ,

    How about Mastodon?

    Duamerthrax ,

    Post to your own website first, then to social media. Hosting your own Mastodon or Lemmy instance counts as your own website.

    yannic ,

    E-mail, too. You could have all the latest security features to confirm you’re legitimate, but based on the simple fact that your message volume is low (ironically enough), messages you send with your server will often get filed under junk by default.

    mynameisigglepiggle ,

    Elon probably boosted it for free, max.publicity

    jeffw ,
    @jeffw@lemmy.world avatar

    My first reaction was that he was hacked. It wasn’t on official letterhead, there was no other announcement, and the president didn’t immediately make another tweet/x/whatever.

    I don’t think I’m alone. Typically when something big like this happens, I get 5-10 news alerts within minutes of each other from various sources. The alerts were slow to roll in today.

    HappycamperNZ ,

    "Oh shit, how do we spin this in Trumps favour"

    • US media
    PM_Your_Nudes_Please ,

    I mean, it took me 12+ hours to hear that Trump had been shot.

    jeffw ,
    @jeffw@lemmy.world avatar

    Yeah but you aren’t a news junkie who enables notifications from a bunch of news outlets, I take it?

    vxx ,

    Is it reading the news or posting it that drives you?

    jeffw ,
    @jeffw@lemmy.world avatar

    Considering I’ve had the same notifications enabled for over a decade and only started posting here to try and make it active like Reddit… the news?

    Agent641 ,

    I hate that he started at least 2 sentences with “and”

    aphlamingphoenix ,

    It really helps you to hear it in his voice, though.

    GiddyGap ,

    Screw Elon

    SloganLessons , to linux in [Rant] I swear to fucking god. Windows is harder to use than Linux. Have any of you ever USED Windows lately? Holy fuck.
    @SloganLessons@kbin.social avatar

    Can't tell if this is a shitpost or not

    xera121 ,
    @xera121@mastodon.social avatar

    @SloganLessons @PeterPoopshit
    Yeah, but by then the "good" version will be available - Windows 12.

    Alternatively, if your needs could be met by another os e.g. Linux or MacOS then why not migrate to them?

    Rustmilian ,
    @Rustmilian@lemmy.world avatar

    Windows 12 will be a massive hit, just like google stadia.

    victron ,

    There’s more linux circlejerk or “windows bad” posts in this community than actual useful ones.

    Tak ,
    @Tak@lemmy.ml avatar

    Of all the circlejerks this one is really silly though. You can complain about so many fucking things about Windows but Windows 11 is really damn easy to install and setup and I’m pretty sure you can do it in 30 mins.

    The OP’s whining about Linux playing all the games feels like bait to me. Linux just doesn’t run every game that Windows does and it’s not about how graphically intense it is.

    zer0 ,

    Some linux distros are also damn easy to install, easier than windows just try for yourself

    Tak ,
    @Tak@lemmy.ml avatar

    It is no competition on whether linux is easier to install when you can run it off a fucking flash drive.

    That doesn’t make Windows 11 hard though.

    Pat_Riot ,
    @Pat_Riot@lemmy.today avatar

    Even for a Windows user Windows 11 is kind of extra. Install is simple as 10 was, but the nice ends there. First thing you notice is all icons are just gone. No recycle bin, the start button isn’t. I only even know because my wife got a couple of laptops from her grandfather. She wanted one just reset. 11 is what she got. I hate it. The other laptop is now purring on Ubuntu. I like it. It’s not what I’m used to, but I have Blender on it and a slicer. I was hoping that Linux music production might be a thing, but nah. So, I also still have to keep my Windows 10 desktop alive, because that’s where my no longer supported Reason 10 lives.

    peterjsefton ,
    @peterjsefton@mastodon.social avatar
    Pat_Riot ,
    @Pat_Riot@lemmy.today avatar

    Thanks, that does give me a bit more to check out. I have Ardour and Muse, neither works without more dabbling than I have been in the mood for. Renoise looks interesting, I may try it next. I know I’m just spoiled, but I’m just not interested in trying to speed run the growing pains. I’m fine with baby steps. I sincerely appreciate the link. I bookmarked it for later delving.

    Tak ,
    @Tak@lemmy.ml avatar

    I’ve done so many windows 11 installs and always had the recycle bin. I really don’t see the hate for Windows 11 other than the account login shit but most people I know still use Geforce experience and that requires a login.

    Mereo ,

    Me neither. Linux is my main Operating System but… We can’t generalize one Windows experience just like we can’t generalize one Linux experience.

    dream_weasel ,

    It’s a lot easier to do the former than the latter. Windows fixes a lot of things about the experience, but maybe not the exact flavoring / theming.

    Linux you can’t say anything about the experience besides sweeping generalizations by distro.

    MXX53 ,

    I agree with this. I use Linux exclusively at home, but for work I have a windows laptop. It’s really not that bad. I for sure don’t like it as much, but it isn’t atrocious.

    fsxylo ,

    It has to be, windows makes it super easy to install so they can get your data faster.

    idunnololz ,
    @idunnololz@lemmy.world avatar

    Jokes on them. I

    NightOwl ,

    Yeah, I genuinely do not understand having used Windows, Linux, and MacOS. They are making it sound like it’s trying to decipher some unknown language. Even a quick YouTube would have solved how to install a exe.

    faintedheart ,

    I have found windows is easier to install every time. This is just another windows bad linux good post. Windows has so many issues, but installation is not one of them. Even my 10 year old cousin installs it fine.

    Kecessa ,

    Linux users on Lemmy: People who don’t run Linux are just bad with computers and shouldn’t be using a computer at all!

    Also Linux users on Lemmy: Anyone else is unable to install windows from scratch?

    😘👌

    FederatedSaint ,

    Linux users on Lemmy: People who don’t run Linux are just bad with computers and shouldn’t be using a computer at all!

    I remember being part of these exact same conversations on other message boards at least 15 years ago.

    We’re all going around in circles here as history repeats itself.

    SendMePhotos ,

    In my experience, installation of Win or Lin has been pretty easy. Lin has less options to opt out of (I like) than windows, but windows set everything up just fine. The only time I ever had issues on either is if I try to install without an active ether net connected. If I don’t have the os update during install, I run into random driver issues on either os.

    4am ,
    @4am@lemmy.world avatar

    OP:

    I run Arch btw

    noodlejetski ,

    Windows bad, upvotes to the left

    squaresinger , (edited ) to nostupidquestions in What is the Israel thing going on?

    It’s pretty easy to explain: It’s complicated.

    Basically, it’s a conflict that had been running for a really long time.

    Before WW1, the area of Israel/Palestine was inhabited by Arabs and controlled by the Ottomans.

    During WW1, the Brits promised the Arabs that they’d back an independent arab state there, if the Arabs revolted and successfully kicked out the Ottomans.

    The Arabs did their part, so Britain, being as trustworthy as ever, turned around and divvied the Ottoman empire up between them, and Britain got control over what was then called Mandatory Palestine, which the Arabs saw as a betrayal. The official plan was for the Brits to rule the Mandate “until such time as they are able to stand alone”.

    At the same time, the Zionist Jews wanted to have a national state, where they could live without persecution, and many European nations, where antisemitism was rampant, wanted them gone from Europe, so they kinda had an agreement there. The original plan was to move them to a part of Uganda, but that fell through so Palestine was chosen.

    Already long before the national state was created, lots of Jews moved there and created settlements. The Arabs there weren’t exactly happy about that massive influx of settlers and the Jews also weren’t happy about the natives. Each of them started an uprising over the following years, and with tensions rising, the UN drafted a partition plan.

    While the opinion of the Jews over that partition plan was ambivalent, though leaning towards being happy about it, the Arabs were decidedly unhappy about it. They thought, that the UN was overstepping it’s rights and that the partition plan was violating the principles of self-determinism set forth by the UN charter.

    So a war broke out between the Arabs (including surrounding arab countries) and the Jews there, which resulted in a victory for the Jews. After that, the area was divided up between Jewish Israel, the west bank area controlled by Jordan and inhabited by Arabs, and the tiny area called Gaza strip, controlled by Egypt and inhabited by Palestinians.

    The area the Palestinians received after the war was significantly smaller than what was outlined in the UN partition plan.

    In 1967, during the six-day war, Israel captured the Gaza strip and it’s been under Israeli occupation ever since. In 1993, Israel granted the Gaza strip limited self-government over the area. Basically, Gaza was allowed to self-government about matters of the populated areas, but Israel remained in control in regards to the airspace, the territorial waters and all border crossings except the one towards Egypt, which is controlled by Egypt.

    In 2007, Hamas took over the government of Gaza. Most of the world classify them as a terror organisation, and they have been e.g. shooting home-build missiles into Israel and also have mounted a few small-scale insurrections and attacks against Israel.

    Israel on the other hand has been casually bombarding and killing Palestinians for a very long time. Also, they let Israeli settlers illegally settle in occupied Palestinian territories, which the Palestinians are not so happy about.

    From 2008 until 2020, roughly 5600 Palestinians and 250 Israelis (including many civilians on both sides) have been killed, and 115 000 Pakistanis and 5600 Israelis have been injured (source: statista.com/…/israeli-palestinian-casualties-by-…).

    The Gaza strip is pretty much an outdoor prison, with a massive population density, low life expectency and abysmal living standards. People are generally not allowed to leave from there. Israel routinely cuts water/electricity, which are both supplied by Israel in response to attacks from Palestine.

    All in all, it’s a right mess that’s been brewing for over 100 years, with no easy solutions. By now, everyone who has been responsible for causing the original mess is dead. Of the leadership neither side is in the right, both sides are making everything worse. There is no solution in sight.

    The Palestinians fight the oppression by killing civilians, the Israelis counter by killing civilians and making life even more hell for the people in the occupied territories, who in turn fight even harder and kill more civilians.

    Reducing oppression is hardly possible, since that would allow the Palestinians to mount bigger attacks.

    Which brings us to the current situation. Palestinians managed to break out of Gaza, at many places even destroying the perimeter fence. They then invaded some towns and a music festival in the border regions, killing a few hundred Israeli civilians and taking some more hostage. Israel countered by bombarding the Gaza strip, killing a few hundred Palestinian civilians. They also, again, cut power and electricity, and the whole western world then responded with cutting food supply.

    This in turn will radicalize the Palestinians even more, who will fight harder, and who knows where it ends. Probably with the Israelis finally finding the same answer to “the Palestinian Question” that Germany found for the “Jewish Question” in the 1940s.

    khannie ,
    @khannie@lemmy.world avatar

    Really nice summary. Heads up you say Pakistani instead of Palestinian a few times.

    Never knew about the Uganda thing. Fascinating. Must read more on that.

    squaresinger ,

    Thanks, sorry about that. I meant Palestinian.

    vettnerk ,

    Another indigenous population beginning with P who got fucked over by brits who had never been to the area. Easy mistake to make.

    squaresinger ,

    I mean, I do know the difference between Pakistani and Palestinians. It’s just that I know significantly more Pakistanis than Palestinians, so my brain autocompleted wrong.

    Sorry to all Palestinians/Pakistanis I might have offended here!

    TheProtagonist ,

    Having said that, the Palestine territory was not chosen arbitrarily, but probably because of the significance Jerusalem has to the Jews, where their ancient kingdom and temple had been.

    chicken ,

    Reducing oppression is hardly possible, since that would allow the Palestinians to mount bigger attacks.

    I feel like there are many things Israel does that are not useful in stopping attacks and ending them should be possible. Intentionally killing civilians and destroying civilian infrastructure are among those.

    squaresinger ,

    It’s totally true that killing civilians means you radicalize all their family and friends.

    In 2006, the newly elected Hamas government actually stepped down during a negotiated cease fire and agreed to a unity government.

    Then the Israelis accidentally (at least according to their statements) bombed a residential building, killing 24 civilians including children and injuring many more.

    That’s when the Hamas took back the government (some would point out, illegally, since there was no official election after they stepped down) and resumed the attacks on Israel.

    But all in all, it’s a prisoner’s dilemma situation. The current situation sucks, but for both sides it would probably be worse, at least in short-term, to unilaterally reduce aggressions without the other side doing the same.

    Understandably (after all this bloodshed over such a long period), there are quite a few people on both sides who will stop at nothing short but the eradication of the other side. That’s not exactly a viable basis for negotiations.

    And with every attack, every uprising, every repression and every civilian killed, this gets worse.

    chicken ,

    for both sides it would probably be worse, at least in short-term, to unilaterally reduce aggressions without the other side doing the same.

    I don’t see how, as far as attacking non-military targets goes.

    Airazz ,

    Hamas intentionally uses civilian buildings and schools as ammo warehouses. Israel aims for the ammunition and ignores the civilian casualties. Neither side wants to avoid civilian deaths in Gaza.

    Zippy ,

    It is rather hard not to do that when Hamas will hide behind civilians and set up shop in civilian centers.

    chicken ,

    Not everything they do can be explained away by that.

    TheProtagonist ,

    Pretty good summary, but I would object, that “Hamas” is something like a “government” in Gaza. It’s a terrorist group that took control of the Gaza territory and it’s people without ever having been elected by someone (in fact, they are suppressing any kind of election since they took over the power from the Palestinian authorities). They are also using the Gaza population as “living shields” against counter strikes to their terror attacks. Nowadays they also have international hostages, which would make a counter-offensive even more difficult.

    A possible - although very unlikely - solution to the conflict could be a de-radicaiisation on both sides and the Palestinians finally overthrowing the Hamas-regime and any other terrorist groups, because those are not fighting for Palestinian freedom, but for some crappy “Jihad” ideas and the destruction of Israel.

    Unfortunately this will never happen…

    paboppa ,

    Hamas was elected by Palestinians though.

    …wikipedia.org/…/2006_Palestinian_legislative_ele…

    Pasta4u ,

    That was almost 20 years ago. Was that the last election

    squaresinger ,

    A government doesn’t have to be democratically elected. Even a dictatorship that came into power due to a military coup is considered a government.

    As long as the Hamas control the area, they are a government.

    If you check out the corresponding Wikipedia section (en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaza_Strip#Governance) you can see, that they are considered a government.

    Species8472 ,

    Just came to say thanks for the elaborated summary. Was already informed about the greater outlinings, but this adds some interesting details about the conflict.

    This will be a ‘thing’ for many more decades. The hatred on both sides is so deeply grounded…quite depressing to see.

    squaresinger ,

    The really difficult thing is that nobody who caused the situation in the first place is still alive. Almost every Israeli or Palestinian alive today was born into this inherited conflict. So everyone there can argue that they have the right to be there in their own way. And everyone there has decades of inherited conflict and trauma. This is not going to get better any time soon.

    Floey ,

    Almost every

    A majority, but to say almost every is an exaggeration. There are lots of Israelis who were not born into the conflict but choose to migrate into it. That said they tend to move in from places that have an antisemitism problem like the US and Ukraine, and in the case of Ukraine there are obviously additional factors for leaving, so I find it hard to blame individuals though they are fueling a colonial project even if they don’t vocalize support for it.

    squaresinger ,

    Fair point. I put the immigrants into the “born into the conflict” category, because they, too, didn’t create the conflict to begin with. But you are right, they willingly moved into the situation, for whatever reason that made sense to them.

    vivadanang ,

    your summary is excellent but I think you have a typo re: Pakistanis, did you mean Palestinians? it’s hard to terrorize the people 6 countries and 3500km to the west.

    From 2008 until 2020, roughly 5600 Palestinians and 250 Israelis (including many civilians on both sides) have been killed, and 115 000 Pakistanis and 5600 Israelis have been injured (source: statista.com/…/israeli-palestinian-casualties-by-…).

    squaresinger ,

    Yeah, that’s a typo. I edited it already, but there’s a long standing lemmy bug that causes edits to not be propagated to all instances. So if you view it from the instance I am on, it’s ok, but on other instances you still see the typo.

    It was discussed below already.

    Scotty_Trees ,
    @Scotty_Trees@lemmy.world avatar

    It’s post like this that Lemmy needs that just make my day because I learn just a bit more than what I knew 5 minutes ago, thank you for the thoughtful post.

    CheeseBread , (edited ) to asklemmy in What's some really unpopular opinion you have?

    Pansexual, polysexual, and omnisexual are all microlabels and are all subsets of bisexual. You don’t need more labels than gay, straight, and bi.

    Edit: I forgot about asexuals. But I specifically only care about bi subsets. They’re dumb, and you only need bi

    pizza-bagel ,

    And asexual

    But I agree. The bi community already collectively decided we are trans and nonbinary inclusive. We don't need to further separate it out.

    Xanaus ,

    Why asexuals?

    NickwithaC ,
    @NickwithaC@lemmy.world avatar

    4th quadrant.

    • straight = attracted to opposite
    • gay = attracted to same
    • bi = attracted to both
    • ace = attracted to neither
    Xanaus ,

    Oh the top comment meant that they don’t consider ace also to be granted a separate mention

    gamermanh ,
    @gamermanh@lemmy.world avatar

    Not understanding what words mean isn’t an unpopular opinion, you’re just wrong

    Not about the first bit, that’s arguable

    You definitely DO need more labels than straight, gay, and bi. For example: asexual or sapiosexual, those don’t fit into any of the 3 you listed

    Blamemeta ,

    Sapiosexual means you have a preference for smart people. Its not a sexuality.

    n3m37h ,

    Stop making shit up

    expatriado , (edited )

    don’t worry, you’re not sapiosexuals’ type

    n3m37h ,

    Don’t worry. I couldn’t care any less.

    SpyingEnvelope ,

    Can’t agree more. The microlabels are too much at this point. You do not need mix sexual orientation, which is the sex we are naturally attracted to, with having preferences, which are the qualities we find attractive in a person or a relationship. The two are completely separate.

    DiatomeceousGirth ,

    I guess we found the actual unpopular opinion on this.

    feedum_sneedson ,

    That’s a very silly name, I love it.

    DiatomeceousGirth ,

    Haha, thanks!

    applejacks ,
    @applejacks@lemmy.world avatar

    they are all made up

    Feathercrown ,

    “All words are made up”

    feedum_sneedson ,

    Cake is a made-up drug.

    paradiso ,

    Exactly, every gay person I know IRL is disgusted by how the pride movement/LGBTQ+ whatever the hell they add on everyday, conduct themselves. It’s like a cult at this point, and I feel it paints a bad name on actual, normal, gay folk. These people who make being gay their entire identity, need to really consider some self awareness exercises.

    stillwater ,

    This sounds like your problem is that people are openly gay.

    Thorny_Thicket ,

    Gay community can be brutal. It’s not the all-inclusive safe space some people like to think of it as. Gay or not they’re still all male and are mostly into manly stuff and if one is not for example into femine guys it’s not a taboo to say it out loud. Sexual harrasment is quite common aswell and probably wont get you canceled. Many would probably ban women from gay spaces if they could.

    Treefox ,

    I agree. All the little bitty addages don’t make sense. You can be bi and still have preferences. Just keep it simple gosh dangit.

    June ,

    I think there’s value for folks in the community to have the hyper-specific labels. I’m saying this as a bi person who agrees that pan, Omni, etc are sub categories of bi.

    RagingNerdoholic ,

    And here I thought pansexual meant you really like cookware.

    habitualcynic ,

    Unexpected Schitt’s Creek

    ougi ,

    Is that really what you thought, or just an attempt at humor? Be honest ;)

    writeblankspace ,

    I thought it was just a joke, since the first time I heard that word there was a picture of a pan. Similar to people who say they identify as spaghetti.

    jsnc ,

    Exactly, words that are synonyms to other words but have different linguistic backgrounds, history, and nuance should just be discarded.

    Now please, help me burn these thesauruses.

    Feathercrown ,

    Oh please how old can these terms be

    Don’t answer that it’s probably older than I think isn’t it

    jsnc ,

    No don’t worry. We can describe the totality of human sexuality and existence with three simple words: gay, straight, or bi. All these other labels confuse the straight people and therefore should be discarded to appeal to straight people’s infinite compassion.

    CheeseBread ,

    I say this as a bi person, not a straight

    Today ,

    Agree. I understand expressing acceptance of non hetero love so kids know that there are other options and they’re valued, but i don’t need to know what labels everyone has chosen, who they’re having sex with, or what is under their undies. And i believe that many people who are medically trans are chasing a masculinity or feminity that they feel is not allowed as a male or female and it’s sad that the stereotype is what they’re moving towards or away from instead of individuality. Also, kinda drunk, so probably disregard.

    doggle ,

    If we’re splitting hairs, bi should be a sunset of pan.

    Also, there is some need for a fourth “none of the above” label…

    ougi ,

    subsets of bisexual

    What does bi cover that pan doesn’t :-)

    PsychedSy ,

    If you say you’re bi nobody thinks you fuck woks.

    Kaped ,

    I have no idea what all of these mean, I just ignore whatever they say

    BlueFairyPainter ,

    Out of interest, why? Shouldn’t it be the other way around, that bi is a subset of pan?

    CheeseBread ,

    Read the bisexual manifesto. Bi has always included nonbinary people. If you are attracted to all genders, both bisexual and pansexual are valid labels you can choose.

    BlueFairyPainter , (edited )

    Actually didn’t know that, even though I identify as bi lol. Pretty sure my other bi and pan friends didn’t know either from the kinds of discussions we’ve had. But then that’s just a bad choice linguistically, no? It’s very misleading because you literally have the terms bi and non-bi and you need to read some manifesto to understand that they’re not a contradiction. Meanwhile aside from the stupid overdone cookware joke, I think nobody ever questioned the meanings of terms like pan or omni, because they make sense linguistically.

    CheeseBread ,

    Homosexual is attraction to the same gender; heterosexual is attraction to a different gender. The bi in bisexual is both of these, not attraction to two genders. Think of the bi flag, pink, purple, and blue: what do you think the colors represent? Nonbinary people have always been included in bisexual if you take some time to think about.

    BlueFairyPainter ,

    I don’t doubt your textbook correctness or the historical correctness of this, and maybe I should stress that I am not trying to exclude anyone from the bi term, but at least in my anecdotal experience, these terms are mostly used “wrongly”, meaning that there is a lot of confusion. And the meanings of words change as people start using them with different intended meanings.

    Therefore, given the premise that we want to simplify things by cleaning up some redundant terms, I would prefer to keep the one whose meaning is intuitively clear to everyone. I just don’t see why - given bi, pan and omni all mean the same thing - one should choose the most misunderstood/misused term.

    Personally, I would just keep the terms and let people choose whichever they like, I’m just trying to entertain this discussion of choosing to keep only one of them and the pros/cons for each choice.

    cosmicsoup ,
    @cosmicsoup@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

    Upvoted, but I have a slight disagreement. I think bisexual should actually be a label under pansexual. Bisexual doesn’t necessarily account for anyone outside the gender binary.

    CheeseBread ,

    Yes it does. Read the bisexual manifesto.

    Floey ,

    I think this thinking falls into the common belief that “sexuality” and preference within “sexuality” are actually distinct things. I really think everyone’s sexual preferences are unique, and so even microlabels don’t do them justice. But I don’t think the purpose of labeling your sexuality is meant to be perfectly descriptive, it’s a way to connect with people over shared parts of their experience with sexuality and that can be as coarse or fine as you want it to be. You say there should be only straight, gay, and bi, but we could go even more broad and say there should only be cishet and queer.

    Xanaus ,

    Why asexuals?

  • All
  • Subscribed
  • Moderated
  • Favorites
  • random
  • lifeLocal
  • goranko
  • All magazines