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MEGA THREAD - Trump shot but safe, 2 others killed at PA rally

WHAT

  • Former U.S. President Donald J. Trump was shot at a rally in PA.

TRUMPS STATEMENT

“I want to thank The United States Secret Service, and all of Law Enforcement, for their rapid response on the shooting that just took place in Butler, Pennsylvania. Most importantly, I want to extend my condolences to the family of the person at the Rally who was killed, and also to the family of another person that was badly injured. It is incredible that such an act can take place in our Country. Nothing is known at this time about the shooter, who is now dead. I was shot with a bullet that pierced the upper part of my right ear. I knew immediately that something was wrong in that I heard a whizzing sound, shots, and immediately felt the bullet ripping through the skin. Much bleeding took place, so I realized then what was happening. GOD BLESS AMERICA!”

WHAT WE THINK WE KNOW SO FAR

  • gunman is dead
  • Trump "is fine"
  • one attendee is dead
  • another attendee is in critical condition

News Sources

Dorkyd68 ,

I just man… ya know like… don’t fucking care anymore, I just dont

TheReturnOfPEB ,

The WSJ:

Biden’s Rhetoric Grew Heated in Recent Days

A few days ago the WSJ said Biden was old and ineffectual. Now Biden is a power master.

Pick a fucking lane, WSJ

CileTheSane ,
@CileTheSane@lemmy.ca avatar

Trump was not involved in the writing of that statement.

tigeruppercut ,

Trump was not involved in the writing of anything in his entire life ever

FTFY. Pretty sure he’s functionally illiterate.

CileTheSane ,
@CileTheSane@lemmy.ca avatar

You think someone else wrote Covefe?

tigeruppercut ,

Nah he can focus for short things, but he’s unable to extract meaning from longer segments of text

SeaJ ,

The person killed by the shooter, Corey Comperatore, was a 50 year old volunteer firefighter shielding his family from the gunshots.

reuters.com/…/trump-rally-shooting-victim-identif…

whoreticulture ,

Who attended a Trump rally, knowing full well the violence that maga stands for.

aleph ,
@aleph@lemm.ee avatar

He was also, it seems, a scumbag

https://lemm.ee/api/v3/image_proxy?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.postimg.cc%2Fd3pzD5WP%2FScreenshot-20240714-201819-Firefox-Beta.png

return2ozma ,
@return2ozma@lemmy.world avatar

Chris Hedges’ tweet…

My thoughts on the assassination attempt on former President Trump:

The assassination of Trump would not remove the yearning of tens of millions of people, many conditioned by the Christian right, for a cult leader. Most of the leaders of the Christian right have built cult followings of their own. These Christian fascists embraced magical thinking, attacked their enemies as agents of Satan and denounced reality-based science and journalism long before Trump did. Cults are a product of social decay and despair, and our decay and despair are expanding, soon to explode in another financial crisis.

The efforts by the Democratic Party and much of the press, including CNN and The New York Times, to discredit Trump, as if our problems are embodied in him, are futile. The smug, self-righteousness of this crusade against Trump only contributes to the national reality television show that has replaced journalism and politics. This crusade attempts to reduce a social, economic and political crisis to the personality of Trump. It is accompanied by a refusal to confront and name the corporate forces responsible for our failed democracy. This collusion with the forces of corporate oppression, which have impoverished the working class, fostered endless war, militarized our police, created the largest prison system in the world, licensed corporations to exploit the most vulnerable and transferred wealth upwards into the hands of a billionaire class, neuters the press, Trump’s critics and the Democratic Party.

Our only hope is to organize the overthrow of the corporate state that vomited up Trump. Our democratic institutions, including the legislative bodies, the courts and the media, are hostage to corporate power. They are no longer democratic. We must, like resistance movements of the past, engage in acts of sustained mass civil disobedience, especially strikes, and non-cooperation. By turning our ire on the corporate state, rather than Trump, we name the true sources of power and abuse. We expose the absurdity of blaming our demise on demonized groups such as undocumented workers, Muslims, African-Americans, Latinos, liberals, feminists, gays and others. We give people an alternative to a bankrupt Democratic Party – whose presidential candidate is in clear cognitive decline – that is a full partner in corporate oppression and cannot be rehabilitated. We make possible the restoration of an open society. If we fail to embrace this militancy, which alone has the ability to destroy cult leaders, we will continue the march toward tyranny.

source: x.com/ChrisLynnHedges/status/1812526737982726267

nifty ,
@nifty@lemmy.world avatar

Civil disobedience may not be the best way forward. A better approach I think is voting more progressive thinkers into congress and other places of power and authority.

Remember: countries where the Nordic model is used for social welfare and economic development/growth are thriving, consistently voted high in the happiness index, and also have been rejecting the far right extremism seen else where in Europe

He’s super point on here

… The smug, self-righteousness of this crusade against Trump only contributes to the national reality television show that has replaced journalism and politics.

It is accompanied by a refusal to confront and name the corporate forces responsible for our failed democracy.

This collusion with the forces of corporate oppression, which have impoverished the working class, fostered endless war, militarized our police, created the largest prison system in the world, licensed corporations to exploit the most vulnerable and transferred wealth upwards into the hands of a billionaire class, neuters the press, Trump’s critics and the Democratic Party.

ProtecyaTec ,

A better approach I think is voting more progressive thinkers into congress and other places of power and authority.

It feels like a long con. The years of eroding the educational budget have finally paid off. It’s going to be an upward battle to bring back logical thinking and media literacy.

aleph ,
@aleph@lemm.ee avatar

A better approach I think is voting more progressive thinkers into congress and other places of power and authority.

And as we have seen, true progressives have been repeatedly pushed from the ticket in favor of establishment-friendly centrists time and time again. The two-party duopoly won’t allow it.

afraid_of_zombies ,

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/1aa7ec41-3ec4-487a-b880-62da3f1eaebf.gif

BigMacHole ,

I like Presidents who DON’T Fail their Assassinations!

return2ozma ,
@return2ozma@lemmy.world avatar

Gun traced to suspect’s dad, was legally purchased

abcnews.go.com/…/donald-trump-rally-shooting-assa…

ayyy ,

In that case I guess he should just “get over it and move on.”

jeffw , (edited )
@jeffw@lemmy.world avatar

I did some cyberstalking (someone actually built a whole ass family tree on Ancestry already, which was my source to look up the other info). Just a reminder, please don’t dox or post any publicly identifiable info on here.

The alleged shooter did donate to a liberal group in 2021, age 17, before he was registered to vote. Rumors of this being another person are likely inaccurate, as the donor has the correct name and zip code listed.

The alleged shooter is a registered Republican. Some have theorized he did this as a “stop Trump” sort of thing to vote in PA’s closed primaries. His father is a registered libertarian and his mother is a registered democrat. His sister is a registered libertarian.

I imagine we will have more info on his background and motivation in the coming days and weeks. It’s possible that he could have any kind of political alignment. A lot of young men can get radicalized between 17 and 20.

roguetrick ,

It’s just as possible he started having major depression and hearing voices with that age range.

jeffw ,
@jeffw@lemmy.world avatar

Very true, it’s a pretty typical age for schizophrenia to develop in men

MonkderDritte , (edited )

Lol no, that statement is way too comprehensible for Trump.

fox2263 ,

“Much bleeding took place”

0ops ,

I actually loled when I got to that part

afraid_of_zombies ,

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/7eb3b3cd-da0d-455e-8534-a0be7221e7d1.webp

fin ,

Only if it was a little bit to the right…

I hope Biden is safe btw, he can be the target of the armored right-winged people

Suavevillain ,
@Suavevillain@lemmy.world avatar

I was hoping for a post game interview ngl.

Snapz ,

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    Tryptaminev ,

    You thinking the secret service would conspire with Trump to stage an assassination attempt is absurd.

    The rest is very simply answered with people under shock do not act rationally

    Snapz ,

    Reading is fundamental: vox.com/…/secret-service-text-messages-january-6

    And trained secret service agents are not “people under shock” they are deliberately trained solely to activate and thrive in these exact moments.

    dactylotheca ,
    @dactylotheca@suppo.fi avatar

    Reading is fundamental: vox.com/…/secret-service-text-messages-january-6

    I love it when people think that the only reason someone wouldn’t agree with them is because they’re uninformed or stupid. It couldn’t possibly be that people could disagree with your premises, it’s definitely just that they aren’t informed enough to agree with your galaxy brain take

    Emmie ,

    Wow you are so calm and level-headed. I would be tempted for twice at least for a good measure. What if they missed it?

    TheDannysaur ,

    This is the dumbest shit and we need to fucking grow up a bit. These “questions” are asinine and not that hard to explain.

    1. Not denying the incident was reported, but there’s a heavy insinuation here that this was set up or manufactured. If so… They needed an entire Secret Service detail, local event police and everyone standing by to be in on it. A couple hundred people are going to be involved and no one leaks it?
    2. “Supposed” gunman. I like how you pivot from “this is probably set up” to “ok even if it was real Trump is capable of worse”
    3. Again, the insinuation of an inside job here. We’re going to involve a hundred or more people and no one thought it would be a problem to kill a bystander? Or the gunman was so good he killed a specific plant? And they had a 100% success rate… No one heard the plan and thought “oh this is a bad idea” and spoke out about it?
    4. Big difference between deleting text messages and MURDERING AN AMERICAN to further a political agenda.
    5. Yes. Things happen all the time. Trump people are saying this is to distract from Biden being inept. There’s always a convenient time.
    6. Yes you dumbshit he was concerned about his hat because they already had the all clear. The shooter got taken out in seconds. They wouldn’t have moved Trump. And they all were saying it was all clear. Also have you ever seen people in an absolute panic? Not the most rational state. Same thing with his shoes. That’s ALSO why he took the photo op. They all dove on top of him. They figured out the shooter’s location and took him down before Trump even got up.

    There’s pictures of the fucking bullet in flight. So either that was ALSO manufactured (a member of the press willingly heard the plan ahead of time and doctored a photo or they actually shot a bullet inches away from Trumps head AND captured it). But no let’s just get Trump, a bumbly ass fuck to orchestrate this perfectly. I’m sure he had it a planned to go down, and everyone covered him and he pulled out a razor blade, cut his ear, and put it away, all perfectly executed and no one caught anything on camera from any of the dozens of angles.

    This shit is so fucking stupid and I’m so sick of hearing about it. These points all rely on the most ass backwards way of thinking where dozens of people are in on this conspiracy and relies on all of them bring cool with killing someone to make it good for Trump.

    Get this shit outta here. This doesn’t deserve the pixels on the screen used to illuminate this nonsense. Be a fucking grown up. We’re going to have to figure out a real way to beat Trump, not pretend this was some false flag bullshit. Accept reality. Be a goddamn adult.

    I’m not even saying you’re wrong for questioning, but I am saying you are wrong because the sheer volume of things that would need to occur for this theory to be even remotely possible is so ridiculous, I would consider aliens an equally plausible situation.

    qevlarr ,
    @qevlarr@lemmy.world avatar

    Mehdi Hassan lays out the irony of Republicans saying they don’t condone violence and want to pin this on Biden:

    zeteo.com/…/did-donald-trump-just-win-the-electio…

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