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MeatsOfRage ,

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Eezyville ,
@Eezyville@sh.itjust.works avatar

Not voting for a prosecutor. Guess it’s third party again.

someacnt_ ,

Wow, what a day!

nexusband ,
@nexusband@lemmy.world avatar

From my European point of view, i just hope she picks Kelly as her VP. A progressive Astronaut, Ambassador for UNITED24 and someone that knows that we should save us from the ultimate climate collapse…maybe we can get Alexander Gerst here in Germany to do some politics :D

Imgonnatrythis ,

Dumb. All because of a bad night that the media turned into a storm. Real world performance metrics were actually quite good for Joe. The Republican candidate says stuff on par with a semi-comatose baboon every time a microphone is in front of him. Supporters of this are oblivious to how much seething sexism and racism lies just under the surface in the US. This was a big part of how we got into this mess in the first place and why estimates for Hillary’s success were so far off. It will be an incredible win if she pulls this off, but it’s just not going to happen.

kandoh ,

Joe was 7 points behind in Michigan.

Americans have elected a black president already, and women have held every other level of office.

Everything sounds impossible until it happens.

dadarobot ,
@dadarobot@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

I dont think we should run a woman because everyone else is sexist. /S

SeriousMite ,

I don’t know. I think with abortion on the ballot having a woman at the top of the ticket will be a benefit.

TechAnon ,

WHAT AM I GOING TO DO WITH ALL MY BIDEN HATS, FLAGS, T-SHIRTS, AND STICKERS?!

/Just kidding - not in a cult 😅

Zacryon ,

not in a cult

Sure? You are on Lemmy after all.

/joking. Or am I? 🤔 VSauce music plays

TechAnon ,

Yep, dropped Digg for Reddit. Dropped Reddit for Lemmy. Will drop Lemmy for something else if I end up not liking it. 😎

tlou3please ,

I’m not American but want to be in the loop. Media here is saying Kamala Harris is the likely successor. What do people think of her? Is she liked? I assume her actual politics are more or less the same since she was VP.

morphballganon ,

She’s a former cop and former prosecutor. I haven’t seen much from her.

seth ,

Both of those are strikes against her imo, but she’ll still get my vote.

nexusband ,
@nexusband@lemmy.world avatar

Not American either, i just hope she chooses Kelly as her VP…a progressive Astronaut in politics is more important than ever.

Phenomephrene ,
@Phenomephrene@thebrainbin.org avatar

Kelly should hold on to his Senate seat for as long as possible. There is zero guarantee that Arizona would send another Democrat to replace him.

nexusband ,
@nexusband@lemmy.world avatar

Well, that’s probably a pretty good argument. I wish it would be different…

Personally, I think we need space to solve climate change faster (or rather, the effects it has on us - climate change is a pretty intricate factor of the climate itself, but we need to be better prepared for those changes and mitigate some of them), U.S. politics are very influential around the world and that pick would hopefully influence ESA and their funding more…

ralphio ,

People don’t know her tbh. She used to be kind of a poor public speaker, but seems to have solved that based on recent appearances. Not gonna lie she’s a bit strange if you’ve ever heard her speak, but I don’t think it’ll hurt her against Trump who is an all time weirdo in American politics. Importantly she’s young and fairly sharp and hasn’t been around long enough to have too many skeletons in her closet.

secret300 ,

No idea who that is…

taiyang ,

In 2016 it was a “Vote Against Trump Regardless Of Who It Is”. It’s shaping up to be that again, but this gives me hope that maybe we’ll have someone we can vote for that we like… Even if just a little. Harris is no Obama in charm, but it’s a step in the right direction.

baronvonj ,
@baronvonj@lemmy.world avatar

The general election will continue to be a strategic vote against the party you don’t want to win until voters come out en masse in the primaries. And those better candidates will have to actually be running in the primaries.

Phenomephrene ,
@Phenomephrene@thebrainbin.org avatar

Not just the primaries; it's going to take a tea party style insurgency into the DNC in order to exact the actual changes that we are looking for. The long play is getting involved in your state level Democratic party apparatus and pushing for better representation of progressive policies in the party platform, and pushing people of progressive persuasions into the DNC. <--- Much inadvertent alliteration.

FlexibleToast ,

You mean not until the entire voting system is overhauled and the first pass the fence post system is abandoned.

baronvonj ,
@baronvonj@lemmy.world avatar

Yes. I mean the thing that won’t happen until we overwhelmingly vote in the major parties primaries to put in representatives who will legislate those changes at the state level. Because 3rd party candidates aren’t winning with the current system, so we have to change the two major parties from within, through their primaries.

FlexibleToast ,

I don’t see that happening unless we were voting with rifles and guillotines.

baronvonj ,
@baronvonj@lemmy.world avatar

No 3rd party has won a single electoral vote since Wallace in '68. He won 46. You have to go to Teddy Roosevelt in 1912 to top that with 88 (the most ever). It’s either taking over the parties from the local level up through their primaries or it will take the full collapse of our government with a new constitutional convention, and that probably won’t go well.

FlexibleToast ,

Like I said, rifles or guillotines. I don’t see it reasonably happening through voting in our current system.

baronvonj ,
@baronvonj@lemmy.world avatar

Well it can’t if we don’t try. For the 2024 primaries in Texas we had 17.9M registered voters, 3.2M primary ballots cast, and only 900k of them were Democratic. So I get why people think it isn’t going to work. But I think anyone expecting a “don’t vote and let it burn down” situation to result in an immediate improvement rather than things getting insanely worse are deluding themselves to everyone’s detriment.

audiomodder ,

We actually saw this happen in 2020 in the Democratic Party. And establishment Democrats played the game to force Bernie out. We’re hearing from people that Biden wasn’t the best person to beat Trump, he was the best person to beat Bernie. That’s why they rallied around him and pulled the bullshit with Warren before Super Tuesday.

baronvonj ,
@baronvonj@lemmy.world avatar

Yes, that was at the top. The president can’t unilaterally change state-owned voting laws. Bernie did succeed in getting more progressive candidates into the Democratic party primaries down ballot in 2018 and beyond. That pressure needs to be maintained all the way down to the state legislatures and city/county offices. We have to flip the states locally to get election reform at the state level in order to make 3rd party options viable at the national level. Focusing on the presidential race to shame Democrats into electoral reform is just an exercise in self-owning loss to the Republicans.

Wxnzxn ,
@Wxnzxn@lemmy.ml avatar

At this point, it’s all just about delaying the repression and concentration of power under a Trump presidency, as well as trying to slow down the climate catastrophe as much as possible on top of that. Things won’t get better any time soon, it’s simply not the historical situation and dynamic at the moment, but every year to organise people for radical alternatives for when the global collapse progresses further is valuable.

Imgonnatrythis ,

I could care less about charm. I wish more people would. Personally, I want a fucking autistic that defines real goals, outlines a plan to achieve them, and measures their success on how efficiently the goals are met. I’m exaggerating a bit, but I miss the days where politicians had platforms and were willing to be something more than just a feeling.

Psythik ,

Couldn’t* care less.

Imgonnatrythis ,

Bad bot. I like to leave a little wiggle room. I’ve often suprised myself and found that when I care very little about something, I can sometimes find a little more apathy later on.

toast ,

If you can care less, why mention it? It is an empty statement, supporting nothing. It has no rhetorical impact at all, except that reinforces the idea in your audience that you haven’t even a good grasp of the language you are using.

Duamerthrax ,

An aside, I hate that this was posted to twitter before it was posted to Biden’s own website or the White House’s website first.

Psythik ,

This is why the internet sucks now. Nobody maintains their own websites anymore. These days everybody just posts everything on the same handful of centralized megacorp websites. Social media killed the golden age of the web.

elvith ,

There are some exceptions that still live by the POSSE*-principle, but they’re rare.

*Post to Own Site, Syndicate/Share Everywhere

SpaceCowboy ,
@SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca avatar

Well Trump posts stuff to his own website :P

But yeah, I agree. And there’s no excuse for it really. Sure a regular person only posting to a single social media makes sense, but anyone that has staff should be able post to their own website, issue a press release, post on Twitter, Mastodon, Facebook, Blue Sky, Reddit, etc. I mean once you have the statement finalized it’s just copy & paste to get it on all platforms. It seems bizarre that they don’t do this.

the_post_of_tom_joad ,

Ey yo at least this place exists

mynameisigglepiggle ,

Elon probably boosted it for free, max.publicity

800XL ,

So the back the blue party of law and order will vote for the cop instead of the convicted felon now.

Just like the religious moral right will vote for the actual church attending catholic rather than the guy who doesn’t go to church and doesn’t know how to hold a bible upright.

Hello_there ,

MICHIGAN is now back in play

twistypencil ,

They should make Hunter Biden the VP pick, what a glorious troll that would be

twistypencil ,

Biden and Bernie would be an amazing ticket

morphballganon , (edited )

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twistypencil ,

So president will be decided by the Sperm Court. Autocorrect definitely not worth fixing

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