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xmunk , to programmerhumor in when google bought datasets from reddit

If you legitimately got this search result - please fucking reach out to your local suicide hot line and make them aware. Google needs to be absolutely sued into the fucking ground for mistakes like these that are

  1. Google trying to make a teensy bit more money
  2. Absolutely will push at least a few people over the line into committing suicide.

We must hold companies responsible for bullshit their AI produces.

sukhmel ,

This seems to not be real (yet) though.

xmunk ,

Is this not real? I’ve done some Googling diligence and it’s been inconclusive - I’d really like to know as there are starry eyed sales people who keep pushing strong for integrating customer facing AI and I’ve been looking for a concrete example of it fucking up that’d leave us really liable. This and the “add glue to cheese” are both excellent examples that I haven’t been able to verify the veracity of.

chicken ,

I’m not sure how you’d tell unless there is some reputable source that claims they saw this search result themselves, or you found it yourself. Making a fake is as easy as inspect element -> edit -> screenshot.

sukhmel ,

Stupid actions in adding unsanitized AI output to search results are real, those very specific memetic searches leading to single Reddit comment seem to not be real

Catoblepas ,

This is from the account that spread the image originally: x.com/ai_for_success/status/1793987884032385097

Alternate Bluesky link with screencaps (must be logged in): bsky.app/profile/…/3ktarh3vgde2b

xmunk ,

Thank you, internet sleuth!

Eheran ,

Just so others do not need to click etc: they found out it was faked and apologize for spreading fake news.

brbposting ,

I gotchu on the cheese

My comment - relied on another user’s modified prompt to avoid Google’s incredibly hasty fix

RogueBanana ,

And another point to notice is I doubt any llm would say “one reddit user suggests”.

30p87 ,
  • Be depressed
  • Want to commit suicide
  • Google it
  • Gets this result
  • Remembers comment
  • Sues
  • Gets thousands of dollars
  • Depression cured (maybe)
moody ,

Lots of dead famous rich people show that money does not cure depression.

lemmynparty ,

Not for everyone, but it would help a lot of people who have depression that was caused primarily by financial stress, working in a job/career that they aren’t passionate about, etc…

nickwitha_k ,

Money doesn’t buy happiness but it can help someone who is struggling to meet their basic needs not get stuck in a depressive state. Plus, it can be used in exchange for goods and services that show efficacy against depression.

Emmie ,

What kind of good and services?

nickwitha_k ,

Everyone’s brains are different. For some SSRIs might work. For others, SNRIs. While there are claims of cocaine and prostitutes being helpful for some, that’s not really scientifically proven and there the significant health and imprisonment risks. There is, however, strong evidence for certain psychedelics.

TL;DR - Drugs might be helpful for some.

xmunk ,

The sibling comment said drugs which may be effective for some people but I’d actually just highlight “leisure” being able to afford to explore when your mind takes you is a luxury that pays off massively for your mental health. I have wanderlust and I’m a programmer, sometimes my legs want to move and, with my understanding boss, I can go out into the world and walk along the beaches or through the forest while I ponder problems… this is a huge boon for my mental health and is something most employees can’t afford due to monetary stresses and toxic employers.

gwen ,

well at least you’d be suicidal with money!

siriusmart OP ,
@siriusmart@lemmy.world avatar

i pulled the image from a meme channel, so i dont know if its real or not, but at the same time, this below does look like a legit response

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/309d96a9-685a-4860-9705-f5bccaa29579.png

xantoxis ,

Leaving my chicken for 10 minutes near a window on a warm summer day and then digging in

frunch ,

It’s like sushi… kinda

Instigate ,

…does the chicken’s power level need to be over 9000 in order to be safe to eat?

redcalcium ,

So you can put raw chicken meat inside your armpit and it’s done? Sounds legit.

Faresh ,

If you have a fever.

Valmond ,

Slight fever.

milicent_bystandr , (edited )

I have read elsewhere that it was faked.

(Edit: meaning the original, with the golden gate bridge)

Klear ,

Turns out AI is about as bad at verifying sources as Lemmy users.

Seudo ,

Should Reddit or quora be liable if Google used a link instead? Ai doesn’t need to work 100% of the time. It just needs to be better than what we are using.

xmunk ,

What you’re focused on is actually the DMCA safe harbor provision.

If Reddit says, “We have a platform and some dumbass said to snort granulated sugar” it’s different from Google saying, “You should snort granulated sugar.”

Seudo , (edited )

That’s… not relevant to my point at all.

Make it apple employees in store and Microsoft forums. If humans give bad advice 10% of the time and Ai (or any technological replacement) makes mistakes 1% of the time, you can’t point to that 1% as a gotcha.

xmunk ,

You’re shifting the goal posts though - prior to AI being an expert reference on the internet was expensive and dangerous, since you could potentially be held liable - as such a lot of topic areas simply lacked expert reference sources. Google has declared itself an expert reference in every topic utilizing Gemini - it isn’t, this will end badly for them.

dysprosium ,

what are you whining about? Hallucination is inherently part of LLM as of today. Anything out of this should not be trusted with certainty. But employing it will have more benefits than just shadowing it for everyone. Take it as an unfinished project, so ignore the results if you like. Seriously, it’s physically possible to actually ignore the generative results.

“Absolutely sued” my ass

xmunk ,

I absolutely agree and I consider LLM results to be “neat” but never trusted - if I think I should bake spaghetti squash at 350 I might ask an LLM and only find real advice if our suggested temperatures vary.

But some people have wholly bought into the “it’s a magic knowledge box” bullshit - you’ll see opinions here on lemmy that generative AI can make novel creations that indicate true creativity… you’ll see opinions from C-level folks that LLMs can replace CS wholesale who are chomping at the bit to downsize call centers. Companies need to be careful about deceiving these users and those that feed into the mysticism really need to be stopped.

dysprosium ,

you’ll see opinions here on lemmy that generative AI can make novel creations that indicate true creativity…

Yeah I’m not jumping that bandwagon yet, but I think no one is able to determine either side of that. It makes terrific art, so it’s not out the realm of impossibility. The only sensible stance we can take right now, is none, and just wait and see whether AI art can hold up in the long run.

Taking any serious stance right now a priori would be illogical. I don’t understand the fuss people make it out to be. Yes, artists will suffer financially and will therefore limit their time investment and advancements in art, but sacrificing or halting the development of AI for them is also not a possibility. So yes, artists are fucked right now, but there is nothing we can do about that right now. Hopefully, some UBI, but that’s not here now.

But yes, companies deceiving and not warning about the hallucinations of AI, is bad. But it’s not their fault people believe stupid shit because they have always believed and will always believe stupid shit.

kromem ,

It’s faked.

Skua , to mildlyinteresting in This bridge goes through the water and not over it, The Netherlands

The Dutch, not content with merely driving the sea back, now seek to taunt and humiliate it

Risk ,

OP’s image needs to be captioned with your comment and then ever so slightly jpegified. chef’s kiss

Swedneck ,
@Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de avatar
appel ,

😗👌

Plaid_Kaleidoscope ,
@Plaid_Kaleidoscope@lemmy.world avatar

Fucking masterpiece

Obi ,
@Obi@sopuli.xyz avatar

And it was the result of beautiful team work. Good job team, I hope that meme takes off.

Ryumast3r ,

If you hit source (jerboa) on the image you get this:

![](…tchncs.de/…/cf7fb761-4b72-4038-afee-f8951d4c7f95…

Which is an interesting format and I wish I could just save your image. I guess this is a request to the devs.

Gestrid ,

To do a feature request for Jerboa, you can fill out the form here: github.com/dessalines/jerboa/issues/new?assignees…

Ryumast3r ,

I’m too drunk for that, but I will try at some point. Thank you!

Cosmonauticus ,

I’m too drunk to meme this chicken

Risk ,

Try Liftoff ;)

Scribbd ,
Risk ,

Has polandball come across to the fediverse yet?

tkk13909 ,

Beautiful

AnarchistArtificer ,

I have no idea why you think it would be improved by slight adding of jpeg, but I agree, and I don’t know why. It feels like meme salt. Or maybe meme umami

Skua ,

It's a matter of time before we start manually adding iFunny banners at the bottom for authenticity

TvanBuuren ,

We try our best ;)

Ryumast3r ,

Do you really? Because I hear from Europeans they hate you.

I joke because personally I love the Dutch, but not necessarily Amsterdam. Such a great country.

The Danes have you beat in friendliness though I think… They’re so damn happy I can’t understand it.

megasin1 ,

You’re thinking of a caricature from Austin powers.

567PrimeMover ,
@567PrimeMover@kbin.social avatar

Not unlike the mighty Beaver, the Dutch have an instinctual drive to bend water to their will

RooRLoord420 ,

And much like the beaver, many of our artificial flavors are made from the expressed anal glands of the Dutch.

conditional_soup , to lemmyshitpost in And now Bezos is trying to insert ads everywhere

Tbh, the worst part is when you pay for it and still get ads anyway. Feels like double dipping, but it’s obviously going to happen because wall street doesn’t like when line only goes up a little.

Bonehead ,

Welcome to cable TV in the late 80s...

dan ,

Yeah that’s totally galling. Shrinkflationfor online services.

You know some shiny-suited corporate asshole got a huge bonus for coming up with that though.

Fried_out_Kombi ,
@Fried_out_Kombi@lemmy.world avatar

Enshrinklification of the internet

HerbalGamer ,

Rolls off the tongue

eatham ,
@eatham@aussie.zone avatar

En-shrink-if-ication

HerbalGamer ,

missed an L

Adori ,
@Adori@lemmy.world avatar

Man’s only gets Ws

affiliate ,

the problem is that making the line go up even a little gets exponentially harder with time. because the graph not going up at any given point in time is so unimaginably horrible to them, they keep having to think of new insidious ways of satisfying it

spankinspinach ,

I actually find myself wondering lately “what’s so bad about stable (+/- 5%/annum) profits for some stretches of time.” Sure you’re not eating up market share, but a couple million in the pocket every year really isn’t that bad…

I… May not be cut out for capitalism…

FlexibleToast ,

Only private companies can get away with thinking like that. Companies that can put the stakeholder’s interest ahead of the shareholder.

Wolf_359 ,

Companies who stay private can do this. It’s when you have investors that you’re fucked and the ponzi scheme starts.

The idea, in its purest form, is that companies will innovate to keep investors happy. They will keep expanding and making wonderful new products. As an example, a printer company will start making phones, then laptops, then maybe expand into chemicals or farm equipment, making bold innovations at every step.

Companies who can’t innovate do this shit (inflate prices until they suck) and then they die because they’re no longer competitive.

…in theory.

hemko ,

Yeah it’s crazy. We have TV plan with some 100 channels bundled up with internet, and sometimes rarely when I watch TV I’m just baffled by the fact a paid service still is full of ads

Touching_Grass ,

We let it happen. You either put your foot down at the first instance of this thing or you lose any ability to do it because it eventually gets so big you can’t stop it without some whole new technology. But there’s always going to be people who say “how else are people going to pay for websites if not advertising” I say not my fucking problem. Just like robbing my free time with bullshit ads wasn’t their problem.

clonedhuman ,
@clonedhuman@lemmy.world avatar

I’ve become a strong proponent of the joys of piracy.

billy_bollocks ,

This. I’m building a media server as we speak. Fuck these assholes

railsdev ,

I really which torrents would move to i2p. There’s just not enough available there to make it feasible for direct streaming.

IHaveTwoCows ,

I am a strong proponent of finding other hobbies, but I have never been a fan of tv in general

billy_bollocks ,

This is really the best option. Plus media server

jmankman ,

The creator of the radio and even the US government were wary of the idea of introducing ads into American living rooms, but look at us now.

steelrat , (edited )
@steelrat@lemmy.world avatar

Given my entertainment options, I found a small developer that sells an app for a couple bucks that allows me to pull streams through my phone and transcode it and chromecast it to my projector. Juijitsu Kaisen never looked so good.

SnipingNinja ,

Which app?

steelrat , (edited )
@steelrat@lemmy.world avatar

play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.instant…

I guess I should mention they also defang, adblock, and can fake useragents if they attempt to block based on usermask/profiling. See why I wanted to pay this cat?

SARGEx117 , to mildlyinfuriating in Amazon Anti Union propaganda

Legit had someone from my last job start going on a break room tirade about how “those damn unions just want your money” but strangely had no rebuttal when asked why giving them 2% of your paycheck is a bad thing when they negotiated your RAISE to be 15% and your health benefits add up to an additional savings of around 20%.

I’m SO SORRY you’re getting extra money and healthcare rather than the NOTHING you had before.

Nowadays I like to print up cards with unionizing information on them, facts vs myths, links to read up more, anti-union tactics, links to join unions, links to find HELP setting up a union, and basically anything I could cram into a business card. Now I leave about 10 of them any time I go into a non union store.

Given how previous management has reacted to “someone” leaving these in the break room, I’m sure I’ve caused a few sleepless nights.

Spuddaccino ,

For union dues, I’ll sometimes bring up strikes. People know that when unions strike, they aren’t working, and when they aren’t working, they aren’t getting paid. What they don’t realize is that most unions pay the employees during strikes, and that money has to come from somewhere.

SARGEx117 ,

You’re literally partially making sure you still get PAID when shit happens.

Very good point, and I honestly wonder how common that knowledge even is.

Then again, almost all anti-union propaganda hinges on people not knowing enough about the subject to call it out. As with most propaganda.

Gyrolemmy ,

Nevermind! I see what was said was that the unions can pay striking workers but it wont be the standard rate. So striking could cause lost wages.

SARGEx117 ,

Hmm. It’s been a thing for every union I’ve been a part of, but it makes sense it wouldn’t be ALL of them that do it. I’m sure some just simply aren’t large enough to do it like that.

Touching_Grass ,

I would be worried the Union management isn’t corrupt though.

TheSanSabaSongbird ,

That’s something to worry about in every arena that involves money, not just unions. It’s just a fact of life that there are crooks and liars in the world.

intensely_human ,

In every arena that involves authority.

Touching_Grass ,

That’s true. I think that’s just what I’m trying to say. Unions are best for most jobs but are not great for all jobs. And they do have s lot of problems younger people might not realize. Some unions are bad for stiffing younger members giving work to older more experienced guys while younger guys pay the same dues. They can become the same shit different structure. So I’m not saying don’t unionize. But I am saying make sure the union serves its members and does not become just another thing that fucks you.

In the end I prefer things like cooperatives over unions but we’re a long way from there. But they also suffer the same old boys club. In the end I think we overlook that we’re all just evil corporation’s without power and money. In the end we should look at the culture itself because there’s a reason corruption is king

Spuddaccino ,

From the other side: I’m pro-union, but at my workplace I’m management.

One of the guys on my crew is terrible at his job. Just awful. Everyone hates working with him, he doesn’t get anything done on time, he’s either stupid or willfully ignorant, the list goes on and on.

The union, however, has negotiated that I can’t action for productivity. It literally doesn’t matter how badly he does his job, as long as he’s in his spot and something is happening, I can’t do anything. On top of that, this guy has seniority over most of the other guys on the crew, so I can’t even give him less hours without cutting the people who actually get shit done.

It’s incredibly frustrating, and the only thing I can do is watch his attendance like a hawk in the hopes I can get rid of him for being late one too many times.

phobiac ,
@phobiac@lemmy.world avatar

No concerns about the company management being corrupt and working against your interests, though?

intensely_human ,

The company is openly for its own interest. Corrupting the company would mean using the company for something other than seeking profit. A union, which is on your side, is the thing where corruption makes it go from serving you to not serving you. A company wasn’t serving you in the first place.

Swedneck ,
@Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

so get involved and make sure it isn’t? tell people if you think the management is corrupt so they can be tossed out on their ass.

magnetosphere ,
@magnetosphere@kbin.social avatar

I honestly did not know that. I’ve been wondering how, for example, UAW workers can afford to strike for weeks.

TheSanSabaSongbird ,

The downside is that you won’t get paid as much as you would working. My union pays $200 a day to anyone on a picket line, but as a strike goes on, the money starts to run out.

Fortunately it hasn’t come to that for us.

Elivey ,

Better than getting nothing during that time! $200/day for me would be a lot of money.

TheSanSabaSongbird ,

My local went on strike once in 2019, it lasted one day and everyone who picketed got $200.

Last year we threatened to strike, had an authorization vote, but our signatory contractors association wanted nothing to do with it and we basically got everything we asked for with no work stoppage.

The deal in my part of the country is that what with the CHIPS Act, there’s literally billions of dollars on the table and our signatory contractors can’t afford to get bogged down in labor disputes.

The upshot is that it leaves the unions sitting pretty since they can’t access these incredibly lucrative contracts without using highly-trained union labor.

There’s more to do with EMRs and the like, but I won’t bore you with the details.

CurlyWurlies4All ,
@CurlyWurlies4All@slrpnk.net avatar

I know this might not apply elsewhere as I’m in Australia, but I always bring up that your union fees are totally tax deductible so you get it all back at tax time.

dojan ,
@dojan@lemmy.world avatar

It’s the same people that don’t get socialised healthcare. Union fees are like a tax that’s used to pay people to do work for you, in the case of worker unions, people that negotiate working conditions, benefits, and wages, in addition to lawyers that can both offer legal advice and representation should you be in need of it.

Here in Sweden we have lots of different unions. We have a tenants union that negotiate rent increases, ensure that landlords do their end of the contract, and will help you with legal proceedings should it be required.

There are also various “customer owned” institutions, like my bank, insurance company, and the grocery store I get most of my groceries from. The goal isn’t necessarily massive profits, but enough to sustain and develop the services, with surplus going back to the owners, that is the customers.

It just makes sense. We all make use of schools as children, so funding that with taxes makes sense. It ensures everyone gets a good education, and at least one good meal per day. Same thing applies to healthcare.

SARGEx117 ,

My mother WORKS IN HEALTHCARE as the intermediary for the hospital network and the insurance companies.

She literally sees the Financials of people every fucking day.

And still she thinks socialized Healthcare would tank the entire US. I’ve shown charts, studies, anecdotal evidence out the wazoo (which is where anecdotal evidence usually comes from) But no, I can’t possibly be right about this, it would mean someone who got stabbed will have to wait on 600 people with the sniffles to be seen by a doctor in 6 months. Because I guess in socialized medicine, triage doesn’t exist? You can’t logic someone out of a position they didn’t logic themselves into.

amio ,

It's always hard to get someone to realize a fact that would damage their paycheck.

SpaceNoodle ,

I’ve actually talked to some health insurance drones that told me they’d gladly be out of a job due to universal healthcare.

amio ,

Sure. People need to earn a living, after all. I'm talking more about general tendencies (unless you want to be extremely literal about that "always") in how people take in new information. Messing with ego, preconceptions, tribal status or money are great ways to make that really difficult.

porkins ,

My problem with paying more taxes so everyone gets healthcare is that I put in the work, so that I get to see premium doctors. The socialized system lowers the incentive for there to be a spectrum of quality care. Instead you get the government standard, which is going to be like the DMV of healthcare. You are getting as good as can be what is offered to all, which is the antithesis of a capitalist system where your benefit from the fruits of your labor with a variety of options. The person on welfare with ten kids and no job shouldn’t get access to the same doctors as me, a working professional who knows not to have kids until I can afford them.

TheSanSabaSongbird ,

Gross.

Swedneck ,
@Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

why do you hate poor people

intensely_human ,

Why do you hate rich people?

Swedneck ,
@Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

Because they’re miserable egocentrics who would rather accrue wealth than help their fellow man.

Now, what have poor people done to deserve to suffer?

intensely_human ,

You seem to be arguing that rich people are bad people and poor people are good people, categorically.

Did I summarize that right?

Swedneck ,
@Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

i have answered your question, stop deflecting and answer mine if you want to be taken seriously.

SARGEx117 ,

gestures wildly at the world ARE YOU FUCKING BLIND?

intensely_human ,

Pretend I am. Articulate an argument and help me see.

porkins ,

Because they have kids when they can’t afford them and I don’t do that. They are a burden on society by making bad decisions. I don’t hate them, but feel that they shouldn’t get handouts for being failures.

SARGEx117 ,

What a long winded way to say “I am a piece of shit who likes to see others suffer, because feel I am superior.”

Either you stand to unfairly gain from the current system, or you’re an idiot who not only listens to companies like Walmart tell you about “welfare queens” but buys it hook line and sinker.

Or you’re a troll, I guess.

Because if you think what you pay in premiums is less than what you’d pay with properly managed universal healthcare, you’re simply stupid. Not ignorant, stupid. Unable or unwilling to learn.

dojan ,
@dojan@lemmy.world avatar

My problem with paying more taxes so everyone gets healthcare is that I put in the work, so that I get to see premium doctors.

The U.S. spends the most on healthcare in the world, yet doesn’t have as good quality of healthcare as most countries with socialised healthcare. I get what you’re saying, and even ignoring the obvious social issues it raises, the system you’re defending just doesn’t work unless you’re obscenely rich.

If you’re on Lemmy I don’t think you’re obscenely rich.

GreyEyedGhost ,

Everyone else is (rightly) shooting on you for hating poor people. And there is some validity to what you’re saying about some portion of the poor adults you’re talking about. So the question you should be looking at is, “How do I get there to be less poor people?” Sure you could suggest a modest proposal, or you could promote ideas to minimize those poor children growing up to be poor adults. So what things make poor kids grow up to be poor adults? Well, the three biggest you’re going to see are lack of education, poor health and nutrition, and poor housing security. If you look at the numbers for anywhere else in the world, you’ll see that unless you’re fabulously wealthy you will generally see better health outcomes from universal healthcare, and it will probably cost you less, too. Properly funding public education is another key factor in making sure those poor kids have every chance to not be poor adults. Whiles you’re at it, keep funding those school lunch programs. Don’t worry, for every dollar spent on those, the economy sees multiple dollars of improvement. Housing can get a bit expensive, and even if you just did those other two, you would be doing a lot to reduce the number of poor kids who grow up to be poor adults. Now, if you were so outrageous as to propose police reforms to the point where the kids are less afraid of the cops than they are of the local gangs, that might be a benefit, too. Granted, none of this is quick or easy.

When it comes down to it, poor people are always going to cost something to deal with. You can worry about health, education, housing and social assistance, or you can worry about policing, jail, and supports and corrections for children. Neither option is free.

dojan ,
@dojan@lemmy.world avatar

I don’t think the system would change that much, save for insurance companies not having a say in the healthcare a patient receives. It’s ridiculous that insurance companies come before the health of the patient.

Here in Sweden, if you have the sniffles, you don’t see a doctor. There’s nothing a doctor can do for you. If you get really ill, you go to the ER. Assuming you’re not actively dying, someone who gets stabbed will absolutely go before you. The ER doesn’t operate on a first-come-first-serve basis. If you come to the ER with the sniffles you’ll get to wait for a long-ass time, and at most they’ll send you home with some antipyretics and a suggestion to book a time at a clinic if your problems persist.

There are obviously issues. Gods do we have issues. In general though, the quality of care here in Sweden is ranked higher than that of the U.S.

SARGEx117 ,

Honestly I don’t see how it could be LOWER. I have a very dim view of the US Healthcare system, particularly where insurance companies are concerned.

Why do the surgery that only has a 93% chance of success that will give the person use of their legs, that costs $250,000 when a $300 wheelchair will get them from A to B.

Given that I have had to wait MONTHS for an appointment before, and my primary care Dr I have to schedule 2 months in advance, when people complain that they’ll have to wait longer than a week to see a doctor I wonder who they fucked over to get Healthcare that quickly.

dojan ,
@dojan@lemmy.world avatar

Wait times differ greatly depending on where you are and what kind of care you’re seeking. I moved a couple of weeks ago, and decided to try and deal with my hot-flashes issue. Last Tuesday I opened an issue with my clinic, and I got an appointment for Thursday that week. In my old town I had a previously recurrent health issue that had me waiting for four months to see someone.

Sadly politics plays a part too. In the U.K. for example, if you’re a trans person and you’re seeking medical care your case will bounce around endlessly, and you might not ever see the care you need. Same procedures for cis-people can be organised really fast though. Philosophy tube made a really good video on the issue.

It’s also not uncommon for clinics to be understaffed, and the workers to be overworked. This obviously can also lead to issues. I’ve a friend whose cousin died because they didn’t recognise his type of cancer quick enough, despite him seeking help for it frequently. They honestly didn’t really look for it until they faked him passing out, prompting them to take him seriously.

STRIKINGdebate2 OP ,
@STRIKINGdebate2@lemmy.world avatar

And if the US educational system continues the way its going then you all are going to get more people who turn their noses up at unions because they lack the intellectual capacity to release that the short term loss in revenue will lead to long term benefits.

SARGEx117 ,

I’ve had to explain how tax brackets work to my parents multiple times. And my mother was a math substitute teacher for over a decade before quitting because educational work isn’t worth the bullshit for little pay.

I will always vote for increased education budgets.

subignition ,
@subignition@kbin.social avatar

Pretty sure it's been in that territory for a dozen years or two already. 😞

Nioxic ,

I will gladly pay a union.

Always worth it. Workers unite! ✊️

BeefPiano ,

Can you provide a link to the cards so we can print them too?

SARGEx117 ,

When I get home, I’ll work on making a normal printable version!

I have a few hobby machines that do special things, so I have it scattered into a few files to make it go from one machine to the next.

AtariDump ,

Hoping that you find them.

intensely_human ,

Did your union negotiate you a 15% raise?

SARGEx117 ,

Did my union I joined when I got the job get me 15% more than the others already working there?

No.

Did I immediately get a little over 15% compared to similar job listing’s in the area, AND more than 18% more than my previous job?

Yes.

cybermass ,

I found the best comment on lemmy

Hotzilla , (edited ) to programmerhumor in Shiiieeettt.......

They did it once by mixing meters and feets, and crashed the Mars lander.

Edit: looked it up, wasn’t actually meters vs feet, but newton-seconds vs some American eagles per gun unit for force

infinitepcg ,

it happened again with the Intuitive Machines lander that landed on the moon last week

pennomi ,

The Intuitive Machines lander issue was that no one disarmed the safety switch on the laser guidance system. (No, really!) Luckily NASA had a backup system installed that ended up working better anyway.

infinitepcg ,

Pretty much the hardware version of && false

threelonmusketeers ,

that ended up working better anyway

Not sure if it ended up working better, as it landed with nonzero horizontal velocity. Though I suppose we’ll never know how well the original system would have performed…

MooseLad ,

Hopefully, the transition to metric is soon and I can stop reading this same joke every week.

NaibofTabr ,

Technically the US measurement system is metric since the Mendenhall Order of 1893 reestablished all customary units as conversion factors of metric units. In 1933 the ASA redefined the inch to be exactly 25.4mm, following the lead of the British Standards Institution in 1930 (precision was increasingly important for manufacturing, and the previous value of 25.40005mm had become impractical). The international yard and pound were officially adopted by the US National Bereau of Standards (now NIST) in 1959, the Metric Conversion Act was passed in 1975, and finally EO 12770 (1991) required all agencies of the executive branch to transition to metric units.

So, from one point of view we’ve been transitioning to metric since 1893 and it’s still not done. From another, the inch is just a metric unit as its length is officially defined in millimeters (all customary units are now based on SI units), therefore the conversion is complete.

nul ,

It’s guns per eagle, get it right. What would eagles per gun even be?

blazeknave ,

Step clap step step clap

Potatos_are_not_friends ,
Tier1BuildABear ,
@Tier1BuildABear@lemmy.world avatar

A gun that shoots eagles, obviously

Sombyr ,

We don’t shoot eagles in America, we shoot turkeys. Just as Benjamin Franklin intended.

c0mbatbag3l ,
@c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world avatar

Pound-seconds, I believe. Good ol’ LM giving imperial numbers to NASA.

Jumuta ,

it’s an orbiter not a lander

threelonmusketeers ,

It was intended to be an orbiter.

unwarlikeExtortion ,

Ended up a missile

The_Ferry ,

Peger the term high velocity lander

Jumuta ,

rods from god

folekaule , to lemmyshitpost in It's like a more challenging version of the trolley problem

Depends on if you’re a tits or an ass guy, I guess?

Wogi ,

Pack it in guys this is the comment.

ooterness , to linuxmemes in Windows updating just before thesis defense

I saw that happen once in a big presentation.

There was a team of students presenting their work to ~200 people. Right in the middle, a pop-up says updates are finished and the computer needs to restart. It has a helpful 60-second countdown, but “cancel” is grayed out, so all they can do is watch.

I was only in the audience and I still have nightmares.

zcd ,

Those kids are still wincing to this day

DmMacniel ,

shutdown -a couldn’t help in that situation?

DoctorWhookah ,

They didn’t know, but yea.

bjorney ,

For every 1 person who knows how to use the windows command line, there are 50 people struggling because they didn’t embed their video into their PowerPoint, or worse, their USB stick only contains a shortcut to their actual .ppt file

Hubi ,
@Hubi@lemmy.world avatar

their USB stick only contains a shortcut to their actual .ppt file

This happened all the time when I was in middle school. Way to activate a suppressed memory.

KairuByte ,
@KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

I mean, not to beat a dead horse but those are precisely the type of people who would push off an update forever if given the choice.

Not that a midday, mid work reboot is acceptable.

Nisaea ,
@Nisaea@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

That’s a very generous estimate. I didn’t know about it and I work in IT.

Cethin ,

I love these comments. If you need to use the command line (the largest argument people have against Linux) why are people still arguing to stay on Windows? Hell, Linux you don’t even need the terminal if you don’t want to use it and choose the right distro.

(I recognize that for schools and offices, people don’t have a choice. These students were probably on a personal laptop though, so they could have a choice. The issue is Windows comes as default and no one actually makes a choice. They don’t choose Windows. They just have Windows.)

freeman ,

Windows always gets a pass from it’s fans. They also tend to overestimate average users’ proficiency with computers (meaning windows) way more than linux users.

Most windows users would be afraid to change stuff on CP or Settings never mind opening up policy editor or registry editor.

They regularly fail to install applications on windows (a big part of them would probably not even try) or install something different than intended.

Usually they end up running million unnecessary things on startup, having completely unresponsive systems. They just shrug and cope with it till they pay someone to format their computer or they buy a new one.

Ibuthyr ,

The arrogance of some Linux users… You just can’t fathom that most people just want to use the OS their PC came with. These people don’t want to struggle with the incompatibilities that come with Linux systems. Troubleshooting Linux systems is a daunting task for most casual users. It’s great that you use Linux because fuck greedy corporations. But stop being so uppity about it. This toxic behavior is what steers people away from Linux forums.

freeman ,

You just can’t fathom that most people just want to use the OS their PC came with.

No they don’t they want to get a task done. The vast majority of users doesn’t know what an OS or a browser is never mind that there are alternatives.

These people don’t want to struggle with the incompatibilities that come with Linux systems.

Most people are simply not aware of Linux systems let alone linux system incompatibilities.

Troubleshooting Linux systems is a daunting task for most casual users.

No shit, troubleshooting windows is a daunting task for most casual users. They either nag/pay someone to try and fix it or simply cope with it. And windows fucks up all the time, especially for most users.

It’s great that you use Linux because fuck greedy corporations. But stop being so uppity about it. This toxic behavior is what steers people away from Linux forums.

People don’t just randomly get on Linux forums, especially linux memes forums. Nor is my previous comment in any way or form toxic. I just pointed out the blind spot of windows fans, you just can’t handle criticism.

pineapplelover ,

Damn I forgot about that

fluxion ,

Then it proceeds to take 10 minutes to boot. Happened to me before an important meeting once and i just couldn’t believe it. wtf makes Microsoft think they can get away with shit like this?

Tyoda ,

Probably that they very obviously are!

Serinus ,

Just blame the users. Easy.

funkless_eck ,

our work uses macs but also Kandji for software management, which also locks you into restarts during business hours 😎

phdepressed ,

Usually for large businesses like universities IT can choose when to push updates.

FiniteBanjo ,

Some versions like Home and Education might lack the options, but most Enterprise versions and LTSC versions can let you delay updates via the menu or disable updates completely via group policy fuckery.

Still bullshit that they have to, though.

Pacmanlives ,

Shutdown -a or whatever the flag is should abort it if I remember correctly

pkmkdz ,

Yeah -a for “abort” Still, an user shouldn’t have to know that

raspberriesareyummy ,

wtf makes Microsoft think they can get away with shit like this?

I’d wager a guess it’s people dumb enough to constantly put up with shit like this?

Duamerthrax ,

Combined with myopic developers who always have the newest hardware and fastest connection.

raspberriesareyummy ,

yeah, that’s another epic IT fail of humanity

barsquid ,

They think they can get away with it because they keep getting away with it.

SeekPie ,
Cornelius_Wangenheim , (edited )

Because the alternative is people getting compromised and getting their computer crypto locked, accounts stolen or their bank account drained.

freeman ,

Other OSes can update everything while running and you just reboot to the updated system. Microsoft could definitely fix their update process they are not incompetent, they just don’t care.

TonyOstrich ,

The super duper shitty thing is that they could have canceled it by opening the Run dialog box and typing “shutdown -a”, so it’s not even like canceling wasn’t an option. M$ just decided to be dicks about it

modifier ,

M$ just decided to be dicks about it

A most concise yet comprehensive company bio.

ooterness ,

Maybe? If I recall correctly, this was Windows XP. Also the computer was owned by the school, so the students didn’t have admin access.

DV8 ,

That screen didn’t exist in Win XP. If it had, it would have been a different shade of blue. This is either Win10 though I suspect it’s Win11.

ooterness ,

The event I’m referring to wasn’t OP’s photo. Mine was back in 2004 or 2005, long before Win10 was released.

polle ,

Is this a w11 thing? Or does o&o shutup in default settings disable stuff like that. I actually never have seen a forced reboot like that myself.

It sounds really shitty and i dislike windows alot.

Ibuthyr ,

It only happens if you neglect to install updates for a very long time, which is a pretty dumb thing to do. This is actually a non-issue if you just install the damn updates once they’re announced. Just update when shutting down. Also, using home edition is pretty dumb. With the pro version you’ll likely never run into this problem.

Deceptichum , to nostupidquestions in How does South Park get away with trashing identifiable people? Are they sued often?
@Deceptichum@sh.itjust.works avatar
taanegl ,

One of my favourite legal disclaimers of all time. It reads like Bukowskian legalese.

sonovebitch OP ,

That’s it? You just need to say “you know this actor character we call Tom Cruise in our show, and does the same stuff as the real actor Tom cruise in real life, it’s actually a fictional character unrelated to the real Tom Cruise in real life” and you Gucci?

NoIWontPickAName ,

Pretty much, satire is protected

lars ,

Tom Cruise’s sexuality and religion are objective satire

NoIWontPickAName ,

Is Kanye West a gay fish?

Agrivar ,

That whole joke doesn’t quite hit the same way, now that we know he’s actually a mentally unwell self-hating man.

nomous ,

Yeah funny is funny but making fun of mental health is pretty crass these days; it’s rough out here, everybody has some issues

neptune ,

Celebrities don’t really win anything by suing. First, they look like a cry baby. Second, the bar for slander/libel against a public figure is enormous.

Honytawk ,

It is counted as a parody, which has different laws

CosmicTurtle0 ,

Keep in mind that a celebrity can send you and me, regular joes, a C&D and we’d likely comply simply because we lack the resources to sustain a challenge in court.

What stops celebrities and organizations from suing South Park creators is likely the opposite: they have money and a legal team.

The same thing happened with John Oliver when he talked shit about some coal mine owner that was notorious for suing people. The mine owner served them from a court that had friendly laws but they were ready. And they had insurance to pay for it.

FartsWithAnAccent ,
@FartsWithAnAccent@lemmy.world avatar

Eat shit, Bob.

Full story, the guy really is an awful piece of shit.

towerful ,

That is fantastic

CuttingBoard ,

Was a piece of shit. He’s taking a dirt nap now.

FrostyTheDoo ,

If it’s all stuff he really does in real life, how could he sue over it? If it’s factual, you can’t sue. Well you could but you’d lose because South Parks lawyers would say “show me what we said that wasn’t true”

If it’s its fictional and they clearly state at the beginning of the episode that it’s fictional and you should not assume it’s true, it’s going to be really hard to convince a judge that they were trying to trick people into thinking something was true in order to harm you.

The first amendment allows you to make fun of people, especially if you say “we’re just being silly and none of this is serious” beforehand

johannesvanderwhales ,

This is really only to prevent them from suing and claiming that the show is representing the actions of celebrities on the show as true fact. If I publish a newspaper article saying “Donald Trump strangled a baby” without evidence then that could be actionable, as it’s a factual claim. But if I showed Donald Trump strangling babies as part of an obvious parody, then that would be protected speech. So their disclaimer is basically just to make it obvious that it’s a parody. It’s not a requirement, but they want to cover their asses.

Wanderer ,

Apparently they actually had to have him packing fudge to call him a fudge packer and to have him in the closet.

They couldn’t just call him a fag or they would get sued.

bossito , to mildlyinfuriating in A new trend in tipping emerges
@bossito@lemmy.world avatar

Oh America, come on:

  • end (and stop exporting) that vicious tipping culture of yours. Just pay decent wages to people in customer service.
  • change the design of yours bills, make them easily recognizable, with different colors and sizes like normal curencies.
  • take religion out of the money.
  • and since I’m at it, end gun culture and disarm your people. Also SUVs, end that too. And introduce controlled prices in health services, regulate, regulate, regulate, till it becomes a functional system affordable by everyone.

Thanks. I would love you so much more.

theCheek ,

You got my vote.

los_chill , (edited )
  • Tipping isn’t bad. Being underpaid is bad. If we as consumers want to add a little more for good service, I don’t see a problem.
  • Make dollar coins a thing again.
  • Remove presidents too.
  • Guns are for weak people. 100% of gun owners I know are massive cowards. Tell your friends. If we can’t get legislation, maybe we can change the culture. SUVs are fine, it’s the massive pickup trucks that are getting out of hand. Give us the Hilux already, and make it electric. Healthcare should be universal and single-payer. End the health insurance industry.

We are trying…

Edit: Please tell me why you disagree, don’t just downvote me. Downvote is not a “disagree” button. I’m just trying to share my thoughts the best I can.

Amilo159 ,
@Amilo159@lemmy.world avatar

Tipping had devolved from customers saying “I’ll give something extra for extra service” to restaurants saying “since you pay for the food, why don’t you pay for the staff too?”

Only real way to get rid of this culture is to ban it to start. Workers need to demand living wages at the same time as ban comes into effect.

diyrebel ,

Only real way to get rid of this culture is to ban it to start.

A ban would be a bit extreme. Is tipping banned anywhere?

For me, the fix is to establish a fixed tip like some parts of Europe used to have. E.g. $1—2 per person for good service regardless of bill. This would accomplish two things:

  • The tip cannot be an income supplement (thus wages increase if the resto wants to have staff)
  • There is still a quality control signal in place

Tipping isn’t bad. Being underpaid is bad. If we as consumers want to add a little more for good service, I don’t see a problem.

The two are at odds with each other; that’s the problem.

4am ,
@4am@lemmy.world avatar

I think in this case, “banned” is referring to “paying workers below minimum hourly wage because they’re expected to make up the difference by convincing our patrons to generously donate +20% of their dinner bill”, not “citizens will be fined/incarcerated if they give someone money of their own free will”

diyrebel ,

That would make sense, but then why did they follow that with “Workers need to demand living wages at the same time as ban comes into effect”?

Eldritch ,

Because it logically follows. If the businesses have to stop relying on customers to pay their employees what they are worth. Someone should have to pay their employees a valid living wage. And that logically would be the company.

Iron_Lynx ,
  • Tipping is bad, since it has been taken to the logical extreme of making the customer directly responsible for paying staff, instead of the money going into the business’ coffers, to be redistributed as wage from there.
  • Actually not gonna complain about this one, but that does not take away from the fact that you need to inspect bills of the US dollar for what magnitude of currency it is. Be it a dollar, a fiver, or a hundred, they all have the same size and colour. Unlike more sane currencies, where each denomination of bill has a different size and colour, making it readily apparent if you’re holding five, twenty or a hundred of it.
  • Not gonna say anything about this.
  • SUV’s are trash. And so are modern Pickup trucks. Source of my points, if you care
    • They hog fuel & pollute excessively.
    • you can’t see shit out of them, especially right near the bumper.
    • As a result of a stiffer frame and higher ground clearance, they’re more fatal in a crash with people, or even regular cars, both for the other party and for their own occupants. And because they’re big, heavy & unwieldy, they’re more likely to end up in a crash in the first place.
    • they hog space on the road, making traffic and parking worse
    • they weigh a fuckton, making road maintenance more expensive
    • there are vehicles out there that can do what an SUV or a Pickup truck can do, but much more efficiently & cost-effectively
    • The people most likely to vehemently insist these abominations are supposed to keep existing have been found, by market research, to be obsessed with status, be less likely to volunteer, have no strong connection to their community, be less giving, be less oriented towards others, be more afraid of crime, be more likely to text & drive and be more likely to take risks while driving. In other words, SUV fanboys are assholes.
      • When, a decade or so ago, one researcher put plastic animals along the side of the road, to see which ones people were more likely to hit, some people purposely went out of their way to run over them. Those people were in 89% of cases SUV drivers. The timing is relevant, since at the time, most American car makers still sold regular cars.
    • Most SUV’s and Pickup trucks end up being used for exactly nothing you would need them for.
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Katos ,

Gun owners aren’t cowards, being afraid of guns makes you a coward. Learn to handle guns so you don’t have to piss yourself in fear.

SUVs are for bad drivers that need to be in giant vehicles to feel safe due to their own inabilities. Some large trucks are acceptable for work purposes but SUV manufacturers use legislation for work trucks made years ago to get away with ignoring safety standards.

Electric cars aren’t better for the environment in our current ecosystem. You might not be burning fuel in your car but you’re burning coal at the power plant. Beyond that all you’ve done is make yourself more dependent on the power grid. If you are one of the very few people with self sufficient electric in your home you can skip this one.

Free healthcare doesn’t equal good healthcare. People in places with free healthcare have to wait ages for treatment and may be turned away from treatment if the government is over their saving your life budget. The insurance industry could use some work though, hospital bills increase because they can get that money from an insurance provider, this fucks anyone without insurance because most people don’t realize they can negotiate those prices down.

CafecitoHippo ,

Gun owners aren’t cowards, being afraid of guns makes you a coward. Learn to handle guns so you don’t have to piss yourself in fear.

Counterpoint, if no one has a gun, no one has to be afraid. And people that are so afraid that they feel the need to have a gun are the ones that are afraid. And if you want to claim that getting rid of guns won’t work because bans don’t work, why are the same people that are so vehemently pro gun also trying to ban books, healthcare for trans people, abortions, etc. If bans don’t work, why is that all they want to do?

Not to mention the same people that are 2nd amendment absolutists are the ones that are also supposedly very pro a government that’s oppressive and siding with the police. The very people they claim that they need their guns for. Spoiler, they don’t want guns for that. They want guns to persecute people they believe shouldn’t have rights like POC, LGBTQ+, women, etc.

Katos ,

Counter counter point: You can make a gun easily. Look up the looty.

Making guns illegal only keeps them out of the hands of people willing to follow the law. People who want to kill people with guns and commit crime do not care that they are not allowed to have a gun.

CafecitoHippo ,

Counterpoint: You can make your own drugs. You can make your own bombs. You can make poisonous gases. Why bother policing anything if people can just make it themselves.

Katos ,

Well, we’ve recently explored the legalization of weed due to the fact that you can just grow it and it’s not that harmful. Other drugs I mean that’s quite a conversation to have but maybe one worth having.

Bombs don’t have a great use in the normal everyday market, but fireworks are used for agriculture and dynamite is used for construction. So they aren’t really illegal, just regulated.

We do have access to poisonous gasses again for agriculture and some for home use for bug extermination again this leans towards regulated not outright illegal.

Outlawing stuff just because we’re scared of it doesn’t make sense. Instead providing people with an education on what their scared of can protect them from someone who wants to use those things against them.

You could break down my garage door with a car or run me down in the street with one but we’re not outlawing vehicles. You know how to operate a vehicle and can see it’s practical uses you’re not scared of them. You don’t need to be afraid of them even though you’re much more statisticly likely to die due to a car then a gun.

Umbraveil ,

Electric cars aren’t better for the environment in our current ecosystem. You might not be burning fuel in your car but you’re burning coal at the power plant. Beyond that all you’ve done is make yourself more dependent on the power grid. If you are one of the very few people with self sufficient electric in your home you can skip this one.

You really have to factor in the refinement and transport of fuel though. And then needing to drive to the pumps and the additional maintenance ICE vehicles

And not all energy is created by burning coal. There are solar, hydro, wind, and nuclear. In fact, only 20% of our energy comes from coal, www.eia.gov/tools/faqs/faq.php?id=427&t=3.

I can’t speak for every state, but California has only one coal plant and an abundance of renewable energy generation. Including what consumers dump back into the grid.

I love our EV, and encourage others to buy one. They aren’t perfect, but it’s about incremental improvements. The next problems to solve is battery improvements, long-term battery resource sustainability, and building a more durable and less polluting tire.

Katos ,

Though yes, California does have the least non-renewable power generation. Can you say the same for other states?

Additional maintenance is negligible when compared to the price of battery replacement.

I don’t think there are many people making trips in their vehicle just for gas. With a gas station on nearly every corner you’re able to easily stop on an existing trip to refuel.

When the power grid fails due to a natural disaster gas power is all you’ve got. With the limited range you have, is it worth the risk to try to drive somewhere for power?

I’m not against hybrids provided you can still get a reasonable amount of mileage off the gas. But like you said, we need massive amounts of improvement on batteries before we’re ready for mass adoption and for EVs to really be a viable replacement option.

PurplebeanZ ,

You seem to be forgetting that places with socialised health care also have private healthcare and private insurance available so it’s the best of both worlds. Everyone can get treated regardless, but you can also go ‘premium’ if desired.

Katos ,

So I can pay for others healthcare in my taxes and pay for additional healthcare for myself because the “free” healthcare I’m already paying for doesn’t do enough for me? Wouldn’t it just make more since to pay for private “premium” healthcare off the rip?

Nothing is actually free. It all comes out somewhere. I’m a big fan of not relying on others and the government to support me.

CrypticFawn ,
@CrypticFawn@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

SUVs are not fine, they’re getting bigger and bigger along with the trucks at the same damn time.

Thorny_Thicket , (edited )

Agreed, though keep your filthy fingers off my gas guzzler

Edit: people calm down. I’m just joking - it’s actually a diesel

Amilo159 ,
@Amilo159@lemmy.world avatar

Congrats, you managed to alienate 85% of political financial backers.

beholdmyaltaccount ,

Lost me at guns, everything else I agree with.

diyrebel ,

I got kinda lost w/the religion and money bullet. It’s a bit abstract. Is that about churches escaping taxation?

UnicornKitty ,
@UnicornKitty@lemmy.world avatar

No. In God we trust is on all our money for some stupid reason.

diyrebel ,

Ah, I had to zoom in to see “in trump we trust”. How disgusting… that gives a bit more perspective.

orclev ,

It’s cold war era propaganda, it’s not even that old. There was a belief at the time among certain circles that since the USSR outlawed organized religion that the US needed to embrace organized religion even harder and to drive that point home we should put “In god we trust” on all our money. A lot of the US’s current issues can be traced back to cold war propaganda surprisingly. Boomers have been stewing in that garbage their entire lives and it rotted their brains to the point where you can reduce them to frothing incoherent rage by just saying “socialism” around them.

UnicornKitty ,
@UnicornKitty@lemmy.world avatar

For a country that has such a mix of people, seems pretty stupid regardless the reason.

RaoulDook ,

Americans will never be disarmed. Look up the process for changing a Constitutional Amendment when you feel like learning something new sometime.

Snekeyes ,

Funny how there’s been 27 amendments tho

RaoulDook ,

Did you read about the process to change Amendments? Do you think there’s any chance that 3/4 of the 50 states in the USA would ever vote in agreement to abolish their own right to bear arms? I’m confident enough that will not happen that I will bet you $5000 that it does not happen in the next 30 years.

Piecemakers3Dprints ,
@Piecemakers3Dprints@lemmy.world avatar

!RemindMe 30 years

RaoulDook ,

I just hope I’m around that long to win that bet

Snekeyes ,

27 times already. I’d say the math works. The Repubeicans are at their end. This is their last kicks. They know the world is changing and they are not in favor. That’s why they have the corrupt syrpeme court in a attempt to get in what the minority wants.

RaoulDook ,

You’re not very informed if you think only Republicans support the right to bear arms.

Lev_Astov ,
@Lev_Astov@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah, historically it should be the people-focused parties that really want the people to be armed, not the business-focused parties. Of course the people-focused party here is also the big-government party, so that muddies things.

AProfessional ,

Modern US currency is somewhat colorful.

dustojnikhummer ,

I agree with you except the weapons.

BigNote ,

I keep forgetting that there are people who still use cash.

dan ,
@dan@upvote.au avatar

A lot of low-income households in the USA don’t have bank accounts and only use cash.

Meowoem ,

It amazes me how far behind America is simply because they hate poor people so much, passing regulation to ensure people have fee free access to banking services? Same answer as anything ‘nope, fuck the poor’ it’s crazy too because it’s greed of people saying ‘why should they get something for nothing!!!’ but everything to do with banking is more expensive and worse in the US, even cash machines charge a couple of dollars to get your money.

I think tipping culture is a weird social hierarchy thing too, like people love to feel like they’re a higher strata then their server plus have that control over them ‘your wages are in my hands, peasant, now serve me like the lord of the manor!’ everywhere else there’s a camaraderie with workers and I think it feels a lot nicer, the waiter isn’t trying to upsell or get into your graces to earn a dirty penny they’re just doing their job and interacting with you on a fundamentally human level.

deadsenator ,
@deadsenator@lemmy.ca avatar

I love using cash. I feel like I am thwarting The System since it keeps pressuring me to use credit cards or some other form of electronic currency. I mean I use some of those too when necessary, but I use cash whenever possible.

BigNote ,

That’s fair.

bossito ,
@bossito@lemmy.world avatar

And more are welcome. The war on cash must stop. Shopping should be a private matter.

GlendatheGayWitch ,

The motto of the US is in god we trust, which is why it’s on money. It became the motto in the 50s when Christian nationalism became a prominent position, which is the root of the evil that is the gop. The gop would need to be a minority in government in both houses of Congress in order to change the motto, unfortunately.

It’s a change that is definitely needed, however the Christian nationalists are controlling the conversation, as was designed by McCarthyism. In TX, schools are required to hang a poster that says the motto if it is donated by a citizen. In the last legislative session, there was also a bill that would have required every classroom to post the ten commandments.

It is going to take an effort to go vote by the populace at large. In 2022, only about 80% of the Voting Age population was registered and of that 80%, only ~46% cast a vote despite the fact that it was a major election. A large portion of the judicial branch, almost all of the executive branch, and the entire legislative branch of TX were up for election and we only got 37% of the Voting Age population to the polls. Even with polls open for at least 9 hours a day the first week of voting and 12 hours the second week and final day of voting. Being the first state to have early voting, it’s common knowledge that there is virtually no line during early voting, but we still don’t have turnout.

Anyway, on top of needing people to go to the polls, we need a cultural revolution that rejects far-right ideology. McCarthyism purged centrist and left leaning ideology from the country and we are only in the last couple decades starting to see more centrist policies come into play.

Marcy_Stella ,

A major problem with voting in this country is that it’s not a national holiday, If your working minimum wage you likely can’t afford to take the time away from work which means politicians that campaign on a higher wage lose preventing a wage rise creating a loop. The people that are best suited to vote are those that are well off and retired and statistically they lean republican because of people not wanting to help others disadvantaged while seemingly forgetting that they used those programs to get there. People working at minimum wage or even generally low wages and paycheck to paycheck just can’t afford the time to vote and their best chances are mail in voting which republicans know, that’s why they’re pushing so hard against them to make it as inconvenient as possible, because if its easier to vote in person and the people you don’t want voting cant vote in person then you just eliminated them from the voting pool by circumstance.

There is also a lack of push for midterms and local elections, the presidential race is very big and public and made a whole spectacle, like you can still remember the 2016 and 2020 elections but be honest with me, what can you remember about the campaigns of the 2018 midterms. The 2022 midterms were basically an exception to the rule because the abortion ruling happened so close and it created such visible lines in the sand but I truly think if the abortion ruling happened in February 2021 not long after Biden got into office the turnout for 2022 midterms wouldn’t have had as big of a turnout because it wouldn’t have been in the public mind quite as much, the debate on abortions is still big but its mostly shifted to individual states rather than country wide at this point.

GlendatheGayWitch ,

I do remember 2018 because it was a huge race in TX with Beto going against Cruz.

I understand that it can be inconvenient, but most people aren’t at work from 7 AM-7 PM when the polls are open for an entire week. Some are even open an hour or two later (law allows polls between 6 AM and 10 PM and we should be pushing for those late times). People just don’t wake up early or leave for the pills before or after work. I’ve lived in all the major cities in TX besides San Antonio and have never waited more than 15 minutes to vote. There’s a lie going around that it takes forever, when that’s only true on the very last day that you can cast a vote. I’ve seen posts on social media from poll workers saying that there were no lines during early voting at all.

I can understand not making it the first week of voting when they are only open from 8-5, but with some effort, most people should be able to make it when polls are open 7-7.

Should we have mail in voting? Yes. Should we have polls open until 10 PM on weekdays and polls open on the weekend (as already allowed by law)? Yes

We just aren’t going to have some other those things until people use the system that’s already in place and vote.

MisterFrog ,
@MisterFrog@lemmy.world avatar

Could have sworn I was “E Pluribus Unum”.

After a quick search I see they changed/never officially adopted it.

Lame, so much cooler!

Imgonnatrythis ,

The first and the last bullets are never going to change sadly. Tipping is only on the increase, guns are just like an inherent part of America now - kids are getting slaughtered by them daily and it’s just like normal. Gun control is a laughable proposal in the US. If it hasn’t changed with all the reasons to change, it’s not going to. SUVs are actually becoming MORE popular. Healthcare is fucked.

SpaceNoodle , to mildlyinfuriating in Updated Edge and it now seems to put a frame with rounded corners around every website

No corner. Only Edge.

BudgetBandit ,

This made me chuckle more than I’d like to admit.

SpaceCadet ,
@SpaceCadet@feddit.nl avatar

Yeah there goes my coffee …

PotatoesFall , to linuxmemes in toxic help forum

It’s that phenomenon where people who endured trauma to attain something expect others to also endure the trauma.

I’ve tried learning GIMP, and it sucks. I’m not saying GIMP sucks, but you have to be crazy to not see that it’s hard to learn.

cygnus ,
@cygnus@lemmy.ca avatar

I’m saying GIMP sucks (it sucks)

Xeroxchasechase ,

Not vonly hard to learn, it lacks some really basic stuff like undestructive ediring (adjusment layers) and such.

grue ,

I thought GEGL was supposed to fix that. Does it not, or are we still waiting on it, or what?

AppleMango ,

The sudden South Indian accent surprised me (vonly)

alyth OP ,

I am using 2.99.18 (non release, unstable build). Non destructive editing has landed. You can make adjustments through the usual menus and then enable/disable the adjustment under layer effects.

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/ad8ab0f5-3702-47e1-9fed-f854f8045aca.png

Xeroxchasechase ,

Wow, that’s greate!

alyth OP ,

OHH it even works with text layers!!! you can finally add drop shadow to a text without discarding the text information! ;A:

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/e0e0cc4a-94e9-4a56-88cb-4ca6c1390f43.png

alyth OP , (edited )

I’ve tried learning GIMP, and it sucks. I’m not saying GIMP sucks, but you have to be crazy to not see that it’s hard to learn.

I use GIMP for memes and here’s my two favorite tips

  • Hit the forward slash key / to open a command palette and jump to any action
  • To remove backgrounds, use a layer mask. select around the object and paint a white/black section on the layer mask. Here comes the trick: use a Gaussian filter on the layer mask to create a transition from black to white and the crop job looks a lot less choppy.

My anti-tip

  • Adding text and shapes sucks and I never found a way to make it better. Export your image and finish the job in Krita, Pinta, Photopea, …
HipsterTenZero ,
@HipsterTenZero@dormi.zone avatar

fuck, i neverthought of the gaussian blur thing, i always just traced over the edge with a soft edged brush…

KISSmyOSFeddit ,

I used the Blur Border (or whatever it’s called) option that’s right there in every selection tool’s settings.

absentbird ,
@absentbird@lemm.ee avatar

Feather?

werefreeatlast ,

Smart people use terms like gaussian blur to refer to a blur distribution rather than a non technical term such as feather. Feathers are what helps birds fly for example. Let’s try:

“You can feather the pedals on your car to make it drift.”

“You can feather the pedals on your Ford to make it do the Tokyo style turns.”

Which sentence was better 😂?

SatyrSack ,

select around the object

Any tricks on getting the fuzzy select tool to work? Even after adjusting the threshold, it is just garbage in my experience. Nothing close to Affinity/Photoshop. Unless I am selecting something that is in front of a very solid background, I just use a paint brush on a layer mask in order to “cut out” an object.

alyth OP ,

I have no tips and agree with you 100% - never managed to get the fuzzy select or smart scissors going.

Titou ,
@Titou@sh.itjust.works avatar

I’ve tried learning GIMP, and it sucks. I’m not saying GIMP sucks, but you have to be crazy to not see that it’s hard to learn.

“Im not saying it sucks but it does” How do you want us to take you seriously when you don’t even agree with yourself ?

frickineh ,

They didn’t say GIMP itself sucks, they said leaning to use it sucks. Those are two different things.

hydrospanner ,

The Autodesk forums are 40% this, 20% “just learn to program, spend a few years getting good at it, then write yourself a custom script to do what you are struggling with”, 20% “you are wrong for wanting that in the first place” or “you are wrong for having this issue”, 15% “this has been brought up once at some point in the past two decades, try searching”, 4% “OMG yes I have this issue too!”…

…and 1% split between actual helpful answers, and confirmation that it’s a known issue.

VeganCheesecake ,
@VeganCheesecake@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

I’ve been happier worth with Bricscad, but I mostly just need it for designing stuff to 3d print, so your mileage may vary.

It’s also not FOSS, of course, but I haven’t yet found FOSS cad software that works for me.

hydrospanner ,

I’m only drafting for career not hobby at this point, so it’s all industry standard software.

One of these days, when I have a house, I might get into 3D printing, but not for the foreseeable future.

For 3D stuff, I’m good with Inventor, but it certainly has it’s quirks.

Gormadt ,
@Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

So much this

It’s infuriating trying to find solutions to issues with Autodesk.

But you did forget a classic one: “Hello I’m X from Autodesk support, you should open a support ticket so we can discuss this issue in a more one on one manner.” And then the thread is closed without a solution.

hydrospanner ,

Oh yeah that’s a good one too.

The old “you embarrassed the company, report to the principal’s office”.

dual_sport_dork ,
@dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world avatar

“And if I do give you a solution, we’ll be sure not to share it with anyone else.”

TheTetrapod ,

Yeah, I recently found a post there where a person wanted to modify a downloaded mesh. The first comment was telling them they would need years of experience to do it well. The OP responded that they had figured out a solution that they were happy with, to which someone told him that his results were shitty and then explained a way to do it better. When the OP got upset at this back to back dismissal, everyone unanimously decided they were an asshole.

PenisWenisGenius ,

I’ve been using Gimp for years. It’s the only way I know. If I tried to use photoshop I would have a hard time getting anything done too. I’m really good with gimp though.

Drummyralf ,

I’ve used Gimp all through my teenage years. And I used it a LOT. It was quite a difficult transition to Photoshop (which my workplace uses). But once I got the hang of photoshop, I realized how convoluted Gimp really is.

Half the time spent in Gimp is making backups before making an edit. A third of your layers will be backup layers in case you change your mind about a design decision. The whole design process is super inflexible and therefor kills creativity.

Want to use an effect like gaussian blur or drop shadow? Make sure you backup your layer! Want to edit text after you stretched it all out? I hope you made a backup of that layer! Want to work with large files with many layers? You better hit ctrl S after every edit, because the program just might crash on you if you make a difficult selection!

To be fair, I haven’t used much Gimp since 2.8, so if stuff is different now: awesome! And I admire all volunteers that work to make stuff better. But for now, I’ll stay away from it if I need to do heavy editing.

dual_sport_dork ,
@dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world avatar

No, GIMP does suck.

It has the same problem as most FOSS packages that are too wide in breadth and have multiple contributors with their own hobby horses pulling in all different directions, and to this day does not actually provide a feature-complete whole, nor an interface that actually makes sense. And it’s not a matter of the workflow just being different – it categorically fails to replicate functionality that is core to its commercial competitors. Numerous other “big” productivity packages have the same problem including FreeCAD (boy does it ever), LibreOffice, etc. I say this as a staunch supporter of FreeCAD, by the way. It’s the only CAD software I use even though it’s a pain in my ass.

The shining exception to this I see is Inkscape, but it is still significantly less powerful than even early versions of CorelDraw.

For 2D graphics work these days, I hold my nose and just use Corel. I use it for work. Like, actual commercial work. That I get paid for. It is at least a lesser evil than doing business with Adobe.

And if you want to stick it to the man, it is easily pirated.

grue ,

I’ve worked professionally both using and developing (proprietary) CAD software, but even I have trouble getting FreeCAD to do what I want.

BCsven ,

Same. I have used SolidWorks, SolidEdge, CATIA and Unigraphics/NX…freecad just frustrated me

Schmeckinger ,

In FOSS most people can program, but only a hand full of people can design a decent UI.

Drummyralf ,

I always wondered if I could contribute/volunteer to a FOSS somehow with some UIX stuff, but I don’t even know where to start. Would you just draw a concept ui for the team to work out or something?

Not that I’m great at it, but man, we gotta start somewhere, right?

Schmeckinger ,

This is probably common. The people that work on UI often aren’t the people who do pull requests. But I think if you want to contribute it would be best to get in touch with a maintainer on the chat of the project. Projects often have a matrix/irc/discord on the git page.

bitfucker ,

I think you can start a figma or other collaborative UI/UX as an idea first. If a developer is interested in implementing it, then you move on to the next feature

Holzkohlen ,

So, why do UI people not use and contribute to FOSS then? Are they all on Mac? Then go complain to them or contribute your desired UI improvements. FOSS isn’t an all you can eat buffet.

Personally, I think UI people are less idealistic and I do look down on them for that.

OhNoMoreLemmy ,

It’s super hard to get involved as a UI person. If you’re a developer, you can just rock up to a project and fix bugs, and if you follow the coding style they’ll probably get accepted.

If you want to successfully contribute as a UI person you have to convince a bunch of developers that you know what they should be doing better than they do. It basically never happens.

gamermanh ,
@gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

This never ceases to amaze me.

My old best friend and I used to be a programming tag team that worked pretty well; he’d slap together w semi-functional version of the idea we had and then id go in and make the UI make sense and fix all the logic bugs and typos.

I’m not saying I’m some perfect UI guru or anything but the way he (and other people I’ve met) seem to have no internal base knowledge of shit like “similar settings probably shouldn’t go on completely opposite sides of the screen under different menus” or “5-deep nested drop-down menus hurt people’s souls”

Theharpyeagle ,

Honestly I still struggle a lot with this. I can click around a UI and feel what might confuse a user, but building a UI from scratch feels like such a shot in the dark.

ZILtoid1991 ,

There’s also two main plus one lesser issue that are less commonly discussed:

  1. Lack of manpower. FOSS devs often doing it as a side project on top of some other and/or a full-time job, so that even lowers one’s ability of concentrate on stuff like the UI, when you’re already working hard on fixing bugs, looking up things (which is getting harder and harder thanks to AI slop - I once managed to destroy a Linux on my Raspberry Pi while trying to adjust the path variables).
  2. Getting comfortable with the uncomfortable parts of your application. There are many times I haven’t noticed a a very uncomfortable part of my GUI after months of use, then I had to refactor things, which obviously took time away from other things. This also affects the users already in the userbase.

Elitism is also a factor. A lot of people like the feeling of being part of a special group, and for them, the steep learning curve is a feature, not a bug. I’ve seen Blender users being angry at the devs for “spoonfeeding” the normies, and letting in all kinds of people. Also just look at OP’s image.

frezik ,

KiCAD has also improved greatly over the last few years. It still has an opinion on how the work flow should be, but that work flow moves pretty well. It’s gotten easier to find pre-made footprints, too.

If only library management didn’t suck.

AdrianTheFrog ,
@AdrianTheFrog@lemmy.world avatar

Blender is also great, probably because it has organized teams, meetings, ongoing large projects, deadlines, etc

pennomi ,

Oh god FreeCAD is a nightmare to learn. But it does get work done. I wish Blender could move more into that space.

Inkscape is lovely but imo it could use some interface cleanup. (And really it has been getting better each major update.)

BCsven ,

I stuggled with GIMP at first, it was super frustrating because it does UI things differently than other image tools. i.e. in other tools your active layer masks your drag selection, and in GIMP I would constantly be grabbing lmages from another layer, till I realized the pixel under pointer determines what image is moved. That function can make you highly productive since you don’t need to preset layer, but god was it enraging at first

Holzkohlen ,

Photoshop is also hard to learn. What’s your point? Just because it’s different to what you used to does not means it’s more or less difficult to learn.

PotatoesFall ,

I’m not used to photoshop so I can’t say anything about that.

I was a big fan of paint.NET but now that I stopped using Windows, it’s the only software that I really miss.

It had fewer features than GIMP, but it was so intuitive yet surprisingly powerful.

Have not found a similarly amazing alrernative, I wish Wine could make it work…

tuna ,

Not having Paint.NET sucked when I switched to Linux. I got very used to it and that was the one I missed most… it took a few years bouncing between programs but I’m happy with Krita now. GIMP just never clicked for me unfortunately.

I sometimes think about making a Paint.NET clone for linux but i have too many other projects and hobbies i wanna do instead yk

PotatoesFall ,

You could contribute to Pinta, which I’m pretty sure has the same vision

tuna ,

Ooo cool, thanks for sharing!

Irelephant ,
@Irelephant@lemm.ee avatar

Does it run with WINE? iirc it was used a lot as an example for wine on android because it supported windows-on-arm

The_Picard_Maneuver , to technology in Google AI making up recalls that didn’t happen
@The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world avatar

These are the subtle types of errors that are much more likely to cause problems than when it tells someone to put glue in their pizza.

RamblingPanda ,

Obviously you need hot glue for pizza, not the regular stuff.

don ,

It do be keepin the cheese from slidin off onto yo lap tho

Fiivemacs ,

You’re giving humans too much in the sense of intelligence…there are people who literally drove in lakes because a GPS told them to…

Steve ,

Yes its totally ok to reuse fish tank tubing for grammy’s oxygen mask

ThirdWorldOrder ,

Wait… why can’t we put glue on pizza anymore?

ameancow ,

because the damn liberals canceled glue on pizza!

paddirn ,

How else are the toppings supposed to stay in place?

TheDubz87 , to mildlyinfuriating in This SUV parking

That’s not an SUV… But yeah it looks like they backed up ONTO the curb, that’s pretty rude…

twentyfumble OP ,

Ah my bad, in Europe we don’t see many of these cars. How would you call it? A truck?

mephiska ,

Yes that’s a pickup truck.

Menachem ,

of course the one person in europe who owns a pickup would park it on the sidewalk

coyootje ,

Speaking as a Dutch person, our infrastructure just isn’t made for cars this size. People basically need to enlarge their driveways to park something like this. So if you need to park a car like this it’s almost impossible. That would stop most people from getting one, except the type of person that does buy one…

ImHereForVorePorn ,

I mean, US infrastructure isn’t made for these beasts either.

Tankaus ,

I hate to say it, but that looks like a pretty small truck.

Source: I’m Texan but don’t hold it against me.

blitzen ,

Seems to be what those in most of the US would call a standard size pickup truck. Not “compact” like a Hilux/Tacoma, nor comically oversized like the oft-lifted 3/4 or full-ton trucks.

Eavolution ,
@Eavolution@kbin.social avatar

Hang on a sec a Hilux is considered a compact truck in America? That's a big old car where I'm from...

Hyzerflip ,

Yup, it would be considered a compact like the Toyota Tacoma, Chevrolet Colorado, ect

schmidtster ,

Looks like a Ram 1500, so not a small small truck like a Tacoma or ranger. It’s a decent sized truck, just got the short box 5’-8”.

Jjcool27 ,

I still don’t understand what the point of a short box is. You can fit a decent amount of materials in it but why not just go for a full size box. Go figure.

schmidtster ,

I’ve got one, I can still haul anything 12’ and under legally with with tailgate up/down and flagged. And it gives me enough room to haul my kids around in the backseat.

A full size bed can’t have a crew cab, and any combination over that won’t fit in a 20’ garage, so you would need a non-standard “deeper” garage.

They fit a niche, just like most things. It’s not meant for everyone.

Whitehorse ,

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  • flyingjake ,

    God bless - nothing wrong with having the right tool for the job and not being frivolous. I too have an overly large truck but it’s a 3/4 ton (2500 HD) and almost 15 years old. I don’t drive it more than necessary but I own 20 acres and often enough I need to tow, haul or pull something that I couldn’t do without it. I’m going to keep this thing on the road until it dies or there’s an economically viable green alternative. But it’s crazy to think of the resources that go into a new one and I couldn’t justify it for a few mpg better, so I’m very happy to have a trustworthy mechanic 😁

    And, while I really like the Rivian and the F150 lightening, they would be glorified very expensive toys and I’d still need to keep my big truck for the hard jobs, so they’ll wait till I win the lottery ¯(ツ)/¯

    jscummy ,

    Saw another post on here about how ridiculously oversized the Ranger parked next to them was. Had to laugh as an American, can’t even imagine how some of the 3500 brodozers you see here would look on a European street

    dandroid ,

    It is in Texas. I have a pretty small car, and when I lived in California, I was constantly barely able to fit in parking spaces. In Texas, the parking spaces are huge to fit the trucks. It’s so nice.

    Vaginal_blood_fart ,

    Fit the trucks and the people.

    hihellobyeoh ,

    Yes it is, to say it isn’t is just a lie, even if only one due to being under informed. To put it like this, talking about big rigs, 18 wheelers, or whatever you would like to call them, here in the US you mainly see “long nose” (American) styles, although yes you do still see “flat nose” or “cab over” designs, they are the European style, as the roads in Europe tend to be smaller than here in American, mainly due to some of those roads being much older than the USA is.

    cephi ,

    They don't fit on Northeastern American roads either. Why they get manufactured and purchased as often as they do is beyond me.

    Archer ,

    You’re not ready for the F-350 with extended bed then

    FReddit ,

    I’m in the U.S., and this a problem here. Part of it is financial – auto makers found a market for morons who will finance a $50,000 truck they have no need for.

    And they drive like they are invincible. Last week I (Mazda3) almost got crushed by two of these road monstrosities. After taking evasive action to a avoid a head on collision, I got tailgated by another idiot who very nearly rear ended me.

    This is also a rural area with no street lights, and a lot of these trucks are designed with a second set of headlights that blind you.

    ptz , (edited )
    @ptz@dubvee.org avatar

    I call them any one of the following:

    • Grotesque monstrosities
    • Pavement princesses
    • Four wheeled Freudian excuses

    US trucks are ridiculously oversized and typically never see any actual “truck” usage. They’re also insanely expensive and are often redneck status symbols. As an American, I’m sorry they have infested your continent.

    Source: I live in a yeehaw state where people own $70,000 trucks while living in a $7,000 hovel.

    evatronic ,

    I like the more generic “All Hat”, as in “all hat, no cowboy” because it not only captures the vehicle, but the owner too.

    such_fifty_bucks ,

    Ass hat also suffices.

    Mouselemming ,

    I thought the expression was “All hat and no cattle.” Now I gotta go look it up.

    KreekyBonez ,

    both work, not sure if there’s a real historical significance to using one over the other.

    in my opinion, “all hat, no cattle” has stronger assonance, and flows better as a phrase. especially with a slight southern USA accent, it has a satisfying cadence

    tony ,

    We luckily rarely see them here. I saw one once (could have been a nissan? It was so big it was taller than me and I’m 6 foot…)… the owner had attempted to park it in a local car park, it took up two bays and still stuck out into the road. I felt sorry for them… just nowhere to put something like that… how the hell they managed to manoeuvre it in and out of the car park I have no idea…

    TheDubz87 ,

    It’s a pickup truck. And probably not used for anything a truck would be used for. They’re everywhere in America and just as annoying.

    I personally don’t see the point in having a vehicle this big unless it’s used for work (hauling materials and towing trailers) And 95% of the time, it’s not.

    DokPsy ,

    I wish the small commuter truck would come back but it’s a fools dream

    TheDubz87 ,

    You and me both. I had a 97 Dodge Dakota Sport, which is barely bigger than my CUV. I miss that thing. I hauler a fridge in it once to help my friend out. Haven’t had a need to haul a fridge since, but still, never know when a truck bed will come in handy lol. I just hate that the smallest size now is enormous. Even “sport” models are what used to be standard size anymore.

    jscummy ,

    Sport/compact trucks these days seem like they’re really the same size, just with rounded off styling so you get less useful space

    nocturne213 , (edited )

    I have a 2015 Tacoma, which I love. But I would much rather an ‘84 Toyota pickup.

    DokPsy ,

    My deep dream is a revival of the El Camino but with current or next gen electric motors. Small with a bed for hauling larger items without the issue of fuel efficiency

    SJ0 ,

    Buddy of mine still drives a 35 year old Datsun diesel…there’s nothing equivalent out there today.

    MossyFeathers ,

    I want Aussies to invade and force their utes on us. Basically still fill the function of a pickup for 95% of American pickup owners, but way smaller.

    macrocephalic ,

    Too late. All our car companies folded so dickheads here are starting to buy Rams. The smallest utes you can buy here are the Hilux/Triton/Ranger/BT50 which are all about the same size and much bigger then the ones we used to make.

    MossyFeathers ,

    Welp, that’s really disappointing. Once upon a time I thought the Holden Ute was pretty cool looking, and I liked stuff like the El Camino (dunno if y’all had those in Aus, but iirc they were discontinued in the US in the 80s).

    I hate the weird “I wanna big car” thing in the US. I can understand wanting lots of footroom and feeling like you’re in a tiny room instead of a car, but you don’t need a massive pickup for that. If that’s what you really want, buy a surplus humvee and take it somewhere to get a custom interior, new shocks fitted and maintenance done. It’ll probably be more interior space than you’ll know what to do with for half the cost of a brand new Ford, and it’ll probably do off-road better as well. Bonus points if you replace the engine with a modern, more efficient diesel or do a full electric conversion. Imagine how much torque you could get out of an electric motor hooked up to a decent gearbox on that frame.

    macrocephalic ,

    Holden is completely gone. GM pulled out of the RHD market entirely, so no more Holden, Vauxhall, or whatever they sold in Japan, SA, etc.

    VexCatalyst ,

    US fuel efficiency rules effectively banned them. The light duty pickups are not coming back, sadly.

    DokPsy ,

    The way I’d see them coming back is if we improved on electric vehicle design to make it efficient for the size without losing safety or affordability especially long term.

    bdonvr ,

    The Hyundai Santa Cruz is the closest we have, and they’ve been selling pretty well

    VediusPollio ,
    @VediusPollio@lemmy.world avatar

    Me like. I hope I can get my hands on one of these someday.

    squaresinger ,

    Sounds like the exact equivalent of SUVs over here.

    They are offroad-incapable offroad vehicles.

    Stoney_Logica1 ,

    A pickup truck where I’m from.

    altasshet ,

    Emotional Support Vehicle

    phx ,

    Yup. If it’s got a bed in the back for transporting stuff, it’s a truck. In this case, a short-box truck.

    An SUV is basically like a tall 4-door sedan with hinged doors a hatch-back (if the rear doors are sliding, then it’s a van/mini-van)

    scottywh ,

    So an El Camino is a truck?

    phx ,

    Sorta.

    The Chevrolet El Camino was a car-based light truck that Chevrolet offered from 1959–'60 and 1964–1987

    It was also a train, according to Wikipedia :-)

    scottywh ,

    Lol… I had to ask my gen z kid if he knew what they were… He didn’t so I showed him… Then I asked him, “car or truck”… He says car so that’s the answer from the future of America… 😂

    phx ,

    LoL. Still to be fair from the front they very much look like a car and the chassis is probably more car than truck. It’s one of those weird in-between things but I suppose it is still better at carrying a load of whatever than a standard sedan.

    scottywh ,

    For sure… Made for a funny discussion all around in my opinion though.

    VediusPollio ,
    @VediusPollio@lemmy.world avatar

    An El Camino is a chariot of the gods. It transcends common labels.

    Vaginal_blood_fart ,

    Also begs the question, what’s a Subaru brat or Baja then?

    theluckyone ,

    As the owner of a Subaru Baja, I call it an Ute. The short bed is useful to a point (hauling tanks of flammable fuel, etc) but not perfect.

    If it’s not a body on frame vehicle, I wouldn’t call it a truck.

    ephemeral_gibbon ,

    Ute is also body on frame (in aus at least) but I would still call the oversized emotional support vehicles trucks instead of utes. That being said, most single cab utes have a bigger bed than a truck like an f150.

    Screwthehole ,

    That is a truck or pickup truck or pickup.

    SUV does not have a flat bed for cargo.

    penguin ,

    It’s a pickup truck. Often drive by assholes who like them but don’t need them

    kboy101222 ,

    Often typically

    bdonvr ,

    “Pickup truck”

    Gleddified ,

    An abomination against god?

    Alexstarfire ,

    I’d call it worthless. I could fit more in my prius than the bed of that truck.

    butwhyishischinabook ,

    I mean the truck bed is like 3 feet long, you can’t do anything with it, it’s never been off-road, and it has two full size rows of seats. It’s an SUV in denial.

    HYPERBOLE_TRAIN ,

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  • Odo ,

    You might want to read that again. It was clearly a joke.

    Eufalconimorph ,

    I call them SUTs if the bed is shorter than the cab.

    TheBat ,
    @TheBat@lemmy.world avatar

    Emotional support vehicle

    CoolMatt ,

    Yeah but SUVs go off road. Most “SUV’s” on the road these days are just lifted hatch backs

    synapse1278 , to lemmyshitpost in Maybe AI won't be taking all of our jobs after all?
    @synapse1278@lemmy.world avatar

    And now for the secret ingredient… fear.

    AngryCommieKender ,

    I see we are using the Gordon Ramsay cookbook today. I prefer Justin Wilson, where the secret ingredient is wine for the cook

    FlyingSquid OP ,
    @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

    Personally, I prefer Alton Brown, where the secret ingredient is goofiness.

    metaStatic ,

    Personally I prefer Jamie Oliver where all the ingredients are olive oil

    owenfromcanada ,
    @owenfromcanada@lemmy.world avatar

    I’m a fan of James May’s secret ingredient, yelling “oh cock!” every so often.

    recarsion ,

    I’m a fan of his other secret ingredient. CHEESE.

    rwhitisissle ,

    There’s an episode of Are You Afraid of the Dark from old school Nickelodeon (1992 to 1996) that had this as the exact premise.

    TurboDiesel , to memes in Your big brain conservtive/capitalist takes will be laughed at
    @TurboDiesel@lemmy.world avatar

    Lemmy isn’t “too extreme,” a very small subset of Lemmings are just fucking insufferable.

    clearedtoland ,

    …have these people met certain redditors? 🧐

    Bassman1805 ,

    I think it’s just a symptom of “people”.

    ignotum ,
    Eldritch ,

    I see Roy I upvote

    dudewitbow ,

    News: People on the internet find out some people on the internet grinds their gears

    funkajunk ,
    @funkajunk@lemm.ee avatar

    Tune in at 6 to hear our top story: “Water, is it really wet?”. Findings from top scientist may surprise you. 🤔

    snugglesthefalse ,

    I’m still figuring out if I can just straight up block people from certain servers

    Kecessa ,

    Only individually

    DragonTypeWyvern ,

    Some apps let you block instances.

    Rozauhtuno ,
    @Rozauhtuno@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

    You can with the next Lemmy update (devs say it’s coming in a month or so).

    foggy , (edited )

    I mean, tankies are kinda worse.

    Edit: seems this post is controversial! Let me clarify.

    Tankies are definitely worse. 🥂

    Kecessa ,

    Meh, both extremes are as insufferable

    DragonTypeWyvern ,

    No, they aren’t.

    Tankies are mostly just delusional victims of troll farms.

    Fascists are… fascists.

    foggy ,

    Fascists are… also delusional victims of Russian troll farms.

    Klear ,

    Honestly I find it kinda mindblowing how similar lemmygrad and hexbear are to /r/t_d.

    Kecessa ,

    HB federated with SJW, a bunch of them raided two posts on SJW’s main and management communities, they started insulting the local users, calling them fascists and Nazis, they defederated by pretending they got insulted and called homophobic slurs and their admin called SJW “sh.itsfulla.chuds” and “sh.itholefor.nazis” without noticing the irony…

    Ataraxia ,

    They’re trying their darndest to drag the left into the mud. They’re pushing the same rhetoric as trumpers trying to brainwash young people Jordan Peterson style. The Russian government has a vested interest in destabilizing the US and trying to push people to violence and ‘revolt’ because that would take down the only threat to them. At least most of us aren’t so stupid to believe these people are in any way representing the left, the LGBT or minorities. I was looking for an LGBT friendly community and was so saddened to find out what it really was… trying to radicalize vulnerable groups. Shame on them. Fucking shame.

    DragonTypeWyvern ,

    One is obnoxious, the other actively genocidal.

    Considering them equally bad is a self report.

    Kecessa ,

    So we’re just pretending genocides weren’t committed by both sides?

    DragonTypeWyvern ,

    So we’re just pretending they’re literally Stalin’s reanimated corpse, and that they’re genocide supporters instead of deniers?

    Kecessa ,

    If you deny the atrocities committed by someone then yes, you’re supporting them and their choices.

    DragonTypeWyvern ,

    It means you either don’t believe the accusation or are lying about not believing it, one is support and the other is denial, and quite frankly I think they’re mostly dumb enough to not believe them.

    foggy ,

    Which side isn’t genocidal?

    Kecessa , (edited )

    No, I meant exactly what I said:

    www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/insufferable

    We were federated with them for a couple of days and their constant spam of insults and images makes them insufferable.

    DragonTypeWyvern ,

    Fine, you find obnoxious dorks just as bad as genocidal fascists. I stand corrected.

    Kecessa ,

    From a governmental point of view, both extremes are responsible for multiple genocides so I’m not even sure which is which in your comment 🤔

    And I’m talking about Lemmy’s tankies vs Reddit’s alt-right, since that’s what the conversation was about in the first place.

    Touching_Grass ,

    I actually hope more middle ground right leaning people migrate.

    IHaveTwoCows ,

    NO. Fuck them.

    Touching_Grass , (edited )

    Maybe not, maybe you’re a problem because you exclude people like that.

    IHaveTwoCows ,

    There are no “middle ground right-leaning” people. They either support fascism or they don’t. Right-leaning is fascism now, PERIOD. If it werent then fascism would have never taken power.

    What, are you gonna Susan Collins everyone now? Did the orange guy “finally learn his lesson” and now we can enact his policies with a clear conscience?

    Untio fascism is eradicated and all corporate power removed from government, we DO NOT NEGOTIATE WITH TERRORISTS.

    Touching_Grass ,

    Disagree entirely with that. There’s propaganda on all sides and there’s things that we’re all fucked up on. Hate to do the both sides things but I think its realistic that both sides are being driven to extremes and we should fight that and recognize

    Gabu ,

    Imagine being braindead to the point of thinking “people should have as many rights as possible” and “people I dislike should die” are in some way similar. That’s why rightwingers don’t belong in society.

    grff ,

    Imagine being a fucking idiot ?

    Gabu ,

    Rightwingers don’t need to imagine it :)

    IHaveTwoCows ,
    Nudding ,

    What are some extreme positions on the left and who is the representative pushing for them?

    Klear ,

    Stalin was a swell guy / lemmygrad

    Nudding ,

    Do you know what a representative is

    Klear ,

    Missed that word, sorry. But I’m sure some politician somewhere is pushing exactly that.

    Nudding ,

    Okay good, as long as you’re sure.

    IHaveTwoCows ,

    Oh I feel much better now that you can’t name one.

    By comparison, can you name any representatives who are pushing radical fascist extremes?

    Ataraxia ,

    If by left you mean tankies, which are just fascists posing as leftists, then violence against liberals or anyone who doesn’t subscribe to their ccp/russia/nk bs…

    Nudding ,

    Do any of you know what a representative is?

    SwagGaribaldi ,

    America moment

    V17 ,

    Even for the US this is insanely out of touch. But it is kind of sad that one of the main reddit alternatives is even more US-centric than reddit.

    foggy ,

    Biden? Biden is middle ground right leaning.

    IHaveTwoCows ,

    It’s wild how many Dems are trying to tell us that he’s the most radically progressive President in modern history while we have so much footage of him in the Senate espousing radical fascist views on social policy

    4am ,

    …libs?

    Touching_Grass ,

    Lol yea maybe they’re just more libs

    mrpants ,

    lol fat chance, keep dreaming idiot

    Touching_Grass ,

    See its this shit that drives me nuts.

    How did you get so hateful. Same bafflement I get with hard right wing people. I figure its the same forces being applied

    Katana314 ,

    We call this the “Centrist pull” to get people to the right.

    It’s like the carnival of flaming demon knife throwers insisting that throwing flaming chainsaws at your family every day is “extremism”, and just throwing knives at them is normal.

    saltesc ,

    There is a lot of political and other “adult” discourse. Not extreme, but more exhausting for a person wanting memes, gifs, and lols. I imagine the median age here is higher than that of Reddit. Can’t confirm, but it certainly conducts itself with less…“juvenility”…or some word.

    ed_cock , (edited )

    I find the political discourse, at least on some topics, very juvenile on Lemmy. You know, screeching about how billionaires aren’t people but parasites and need to die, hundreds of upvotes. That’s some edgy, frustrated teenager bullshit. Or at least it should be, guess some people never got the memo about inalienable rights, equal treatment, vigilantism and how two wrongs don’t make a right.

    Seriously, this thirst for blood is disturbing and if it isn’t just venting then, well, look how the French Revolution turned on people. That wasn’t very poggers.

    There’s also this idea that everybody who isn’t 100% on board needs to be defooed and marked, preferably as a fascist. Which plays into the hands of the actual fascists because the non-fascists hate each other too much to collectively tell them to fuck off, despite their differences.

    There, that’s my venting done for today.

    icepuncher69 ,

    Based

    30p87 ,

    Some Lemmings are extremely right. That is the norm on any other social media too. Luckily they were often contained on a specific instance. What I noticed tho is that at least in my german bubble the view is very, very left. That’s noticeable especially as the consensus of eg. !ich_iel seems to be extremely pro towards protestors of the last generation, which are often criticised in my real life bubble for their actions as they’re seen as too extreme. Could be that my RL bubble is just much more right than I perceive it to be, even after blending out some individuals.
    The ich_iel community existed as sub on fuggid too, it was never as left tho. I guess there are much less older and therefore theoretically less tech savvy as well as statistically conservative folks people on Lemmy in general. Conservatives would probably care about new, better platforms anyway.

    venji10 ,

    I feel the same about feddit.de in general. Everytime I stumble across a political topic I am shocked by the consensus on very left opinions there.

    I also noticed that there are lots of links to leftist news sites like TAZ.

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