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SkankHunt4269 ,

Fuck leftists.

pewgar_seemsimandroid ,

TREE

Samsy ,

Scrolling through all these up and downvoted comments:

Ahh, that’s what they call controversial.

CarterDarter ,

Reddit is the most leftist platform I’ve used since Twitter (not X) lol

I think the only conservative spaces were the ones constantly getting banned or shunned… and DankMemes 😂

Pectin8747 ,

Most redditors will say that democrats are better than republicans, but that does not make someone a leftist. Democrats in America are center right at best and ripe with a ton of corruption of their own. Noticing that both parties are evil and we need economic reform beyond what either of them offer is the entrypoint to crossing the centerline

rusticus ,

This. Americans have been so brainwashed by the corporatists that they don’t even realize up from down. JFC, protect your working class already.

CarterDarter ,

That’s very fair tbh, well put.

brainrein ,

That’s kind of true from a moral viewpoint. But those are of no good because they don’t change anything.

The Democratic Party is a spectrum from social democratic to pretty conservative politicians, no fascists.

I think Bernie Sanders is quite on the left even by European standards. But he’s not a communist.

If you want more left politics vote progressive Democrats in every election, especially those local and regional ones. That’s the way to get a left party in the USA. And that will make a more left democratic candidate for president possible and eventually some left governers and a left President.

DagothUr ,

Nerevar, your observation is like a grand and intoxicating maze of perceptions and opinions. While it may seem that Lemmy, like the realm of politics, has its own ideological leanings, one must remember that diversity exists even among the Dunmer, let alone different races. The notion that Lemmy is entirely left-leaning may not be entirely accurate, for the online world, like the vast expanses of Morrowind, is filled with varying perspectives. It is unwise to make sweeping generalizations about the platform’s userbase, just as it is unwise to judge an entire race, like Argonians, based on the actions of a few. Let us remember the complexity of the digital realm and the mortal world alike.

redhilsha ,

Y-elllow, B-B-Blue?

truestl leaking?

eldain ,

What a fool you are. I have moral superiority. How can you win an argument against that? What a grand and intoxicating innocence. How could you be so naive? There is no escape. No Recall or Intervention can work against me. Come. Lay down your opinions. It is not too late for my mercy.

systemglitch ,

Lemmy is the extreme lefty version of Reddit which is very left leaning. It’s pretty bad tbh.

frowningfrog ,

Unnecessary.

Stuka ,

Lol…the commies don’t know they are the laughing stock of lemmy.

Name ,

You’re posting from the Marxist-Leninist instance

Stuka ,

How else am I supposed to laugh at and antagonize them?

Ataraxia ,

That’s really mean to say about Mali!

vsh ,
@vsh@lemm.ee avatar

Most self-aware lemmygrad user

aracebo ,

Are tankies even really leftists?

DragonTypeWyvern ,

Yes, they want to seize the means of production and start a vanguard state.

Most of them don’t want to do Stalin shit, they just don’t believe he did Stalin shit.

The problem is this bit of denial, besides the rampant insanity, comes out as “aMerIcA bAD aLwAYs” instead of “I think all criticism of the USSR and CCP is a psyop. Also I don’t realize the Russian Federation has more in common with the Tsars than the USSR.”

CthulhuOnIce ,

the commies made lemmy dumbass

rusticus ,

Doesn’t mean they aren’t the laughing stock of lemmy

PP_BOY_ ,
@PP_BOY_@lemmy.world avatar

Made it suck, you mean

SmilingSolaris ,

Ratio’d.

jagungal ,

It’s way more privacy-oriented, but a lot of Reddit communities were already very left wing

JGrffn ,

I can appreciate that aspect of lemmy, very technical users talking about very technical approaches to left-leaning codes of ethics, such as FOSS, privacy, self-hosting, etc. In this regard, Lemmy definitely is better than reddit and I’m learning a lot about it all in here, and am beginning to apply the things I’ve learned in my own life and computer systems.

As for actually being more left leaning? Nah son, it’s the same ideas as reddit but with a sense of hatred for “reddit libruls” for not being true scotsmen. There are right leaning communities on both platforms, there for sure are more tankies over here, but almost every single moral stance found on reddit can be found here. Literally the only thing missing on reddit is such a Tech-oriented user base (which if we’re honest, you could also find on reddit but it surfaces a lot more on lemmy in general) and the russia apologists.

Maybe people over here should stop playing the no true scotsman game and actually open up their doors and take it easy on the gatekeeping. And by “here” I mostly mean the tankie instances, holding their “holier than thou” stances n shit. Chill the fuck out, act like a true left leaner and work together with the people you’re gatekeeping, get the movement going somewhere instead of armchair criticizing people for not being left-leaning enough.

stratoscaster ,

Who tf cares? Tired of seeing braindead takes that people double down on

DagothUr ,

Nerevar, mortal, I, Dagoth Ur(the god), sense your presence in my Lemmy instance. I must admit, it pleases me to have an individual from a politically left-leaning community among my followers. Your alignment with progressive ideals aligns with the principles of change and transformation that I represent.

As for the Communists, while I may have a dislike for them due to ideological differences, I acknowledge their existence as beings in this world. They have their place in their beliefs, and I would prefer they adhere to their ideologies. However, I do wish they would read up on history to gain a deeper understanding of the consequences of their actions. Ideologies, once adopted, are seldom forgotten, but knowledge can shape the path forward.

n3m37h ,

Be a centrist or GTFO

papalonian ,

Garbo post. What is meant by “actually” leftist? Does Reddit make any claims to being leftist that it’s failing to back up? Why does your source of memes and internet titties need to align with your views in every way? Are you incapable of existing outside of an echo chamber?

Name ,

Doesn’t it depend on the instance?

Fades ,

it sure does, just look at the tankie instances

crackajack ,

Even in reddit, it depends on the subreddit. It also depends on the time of day when there is pile on (or coordinated trolling) happening.

KeenFlame ,

Does it not depend on the bio people their respective breakfast? And their current room temp? And the robots temp (unironically)

Any generalisation is

AeonFelis ,

It also depends on the astrological sign in effect.

3valc ,

Es que reddit no era verdadera izquierda.

Whyherro ,

Why does everything need to be politicized? No one gives a flying fuck if you’re a leftist, unless you’re a Leftist and no one gives a fuck if you’re a right winger unless you’re a right winger. Jesus christ the US Politics are absolute fucking cancer.

Mockrenocks ,

Why does everything need to be politicized?

Because everything is political or adjacent to it. Everything in this world is either impacted by or is a reflection of politics.

FilthyHookerSpit ,

I mention this to my friends all the time. So many issues we’re dealing with derives from politics, so of course discourse will always return to it.

Money Rent/housing costs Grocery costs Stagnant wages Retirement

School shootings Police brutality Systemic racism

Medicine Insurance R/d for treatments Quality of life

Etc. Etc.

SchizoDenji ,

My issue is that I’m trying to implement a new app in my home server. How is this political?

Flumsy ,

School shootings Police brutality Systemic racism

Those are issues that are relevant in YOUR region so why do I have to discuss them? Politics are regional and Lemmy is a worldwide space. The majority of Lemmy is from outside of the USA, yeah we can talk a bit about US politics but not all the damn time.

TrismegistusMx ,
@TrismegistusMx@lemmy.world avatar

Right wing violence will come whether you want to believe it’s political or not.

Ataraxia ,

Yet I see a lot more anti liberal rhetoric on here. Also these people getting off on wanting a civil war… because destabilizing a country always worked great.

TrismegistusMx ,
@TrismegistusMx@lemmy.world avatar

People are angry, and rightfully so. The opportunities in chaos are often seen as preferable to oppressive order.

rusticus ,

Irony: living in a country that has destabilized more countries than any in history and fucking those countries for generations. Meanwhile wanting destabilization at home. Lol.

tocopherol ,
@tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

It’s considered ‘left’ to support queer and trans rights, and there are a good number of people that seem to have a problem with that whether my queer self is political or not.

Razp ,

Guaranteeing that every individual has the same rights independently of their sex, sexual orientation, race, skin color and so on… Shouldn’t be neither left nor right. It just should be. It’s just common sense.

There are plenty of another topic for the left vs right to debate. Leave identity politics out of it and just let people live like they want.

Sethayy ,

But like if people keep intentionally misgendering someone, trans people aren’t gonna wanna be in that environment. Those people will feel more safe here than reddit

emptiestplace ,

Pretending it isn’t doesn’t make it isn’t, unfortunately.

Deftdrummer ,

“Leave identity politics out of it” you do realize the modern Democrat party revolves around playing victim and identity politics? They’re not going to let it go now. Need more victims.

pingveno ,

The Republican Party also plays identity politics, especially white and Christian identity politics. A lot of Christians base their identity around the idea of needing to feel persecuted.

rusticus ,

Or the need to hate someone or something. The irony of modern day Jesus worship.

brainrein ,

I don’t understand that. What did Democrats do or say to make you claim they’re “revolving around playing victim and identity politics”? Could you give some examples of that behavior?

I mean, maybe I am too far left or just too European, but from my POV it clearly looks as if it’s the rightwingers who are doing their part of identity politics by fighting the “woke” people vigorously.

While Democrats just want minorities and disadvantaged groups to enjoy the same rights as everybody else. Which I would appreciate.

pingveno ,

I wouldn’t consider that a left-right issue. China’s government would certainly be classed as leftist, but they engage in LGBTQ oppression. It’s been getting better in some ways recently, but they’re no friends to LGBTQ people.

I usually put such issues somewhere along the line of socially liberal/progressive to social conservative.

KeenFlame ,

You just don’t understand normal politics. This American shit is a massive psy op to discourage any politics. Because of more than 2 young people voted, shit would change real fast

t_jpeg ,

I find posts like this so confusing. Does politics, i.e.the policies organisations across the world implement to actively change the way the masses live not directly or indirectly affect your life? Whenever someone says something like this I just assume you’re not within a marginalised group because there’s no way you’d make an enlightened centrist post like this otherwise.

citruslumps ,

The masses inability to not think in binary is the cancer.

Flumsy ,

It sure does but why do we have to bring up political topics (or rather: US politics) all the time? Whats the point in discussing politics (which are always regional) with people that dont even understand it or care (because I doubt you could give educated opinions on the politics of more than a handful of countries)…

And then people like OP feel entitled to generalize all of the people using Lemmy from all over the world as “Leftists” just because some peoole with certain political views cant stop pushing every debate into a political direction.

t_jpeg ,

Liberals and leftists exist elsewhere outside America. There is nothing about the original post that yells exclusivity to America.

Everything has something to do with politics. People saying “stop shoving politics into everything” just don’t like to he confronted with that fact, when some people are forced to confront that fact outside of political discourse every day. There are literally billions of people in poverty around the world due to the direct actions of some of the most powerful governments the world has ever seen. But you and a few people could not possibly even bear seeing a meme talking about Leftists and Liberals because that’s too political hahaha what the fuck.

Flumsy ,

This post was for (quoting OP) “berating [his] ideological opponents because they are losers”. Because, (quoting OP) “to be taken seriosly offline [they] would need to present well-researched […] arguments”. So they do it on Lemmy.

In what world is this meme of any actual value? Generalizing Lemmy as leftist for their agenda, as was admitted in this case (what else could this meme be for?) is not in any way productive, is it?

rusticus ,

Most people (especially in the US) can’t even define what they are IN FAVOR of politically. All they do is denigrate what they think they don’t like, even when it is against their own best interest. Bunch of fucking lemmings we humans are, just waiting to be taken advantage of by the sharks.

Turd_Ferg ,
@Turd_Ferg@sh.itjust.works avatar

This is the only answer

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