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Resol ,
@Resol@lemmy.world avatar

Wait, Spotify? Don’t you mean “a pile of garbage”?

I have to be honest, I hate this thing even with the paid plan. Everything sounds so compressed.

winter ,

blame the loudness wars, not the streaming service. they don’t alter audio files, the only exception being loudness normalisation between songs.

Resol ,
@Resol@lemmy.world avatar

It’s either that or my opinion is the least valid out of them all.

MrMobius ,

Fuck you Spotify! I download my mp3 just like cool kids did 20 years ago, and it suits me just fine!

hahattpro ,

If it is subscription, then wen you lost your stream of income, you lost everything.

That including your house, if you live in subcription house.

scorpiosrevenge ,

Isnt that called rent

MrPoopbutt ,

Mortgage too

Bison1911 ,

And property tax.

geophysicist ,

Mortgage you prepay a lifetime subscription though, much better /s

ShittyRedditWasBetter ,

God forbid you pay for services.

I_Love_Muslims ,

If it’s free, you’re the product

butter ,

Unless you pirate.

Or buy it in a one time payment.

In fact, you’re pretty much the product in every one of these examples, even if you pay

wer2 ,

But also when you pay, you can still be a product.

hoi_polloi ,

We used to pay a one time fee for software and we paid for big updates. I miss those days

Zealousideal_Fox900 ,

Saved this image as: I WILL NEVER PAY FOR GODDAMN NETFLIX.png

RoseRose56 ,
@RoseRose56@lemmy.world avatar

People like us just don’t see it, they are want us on subscription plans for every service that exists. Starting from movies and series, which you don’t own anything, and once you signup you agreed with their terms, they do what ever they want, to phone where your storage space will max out, and you have to pay monthly, to upload all your videos and photos in the cloud/server. They want us to keep paying for even basic things, because why should be free right?

Oneobi ,

Greed. The ultimate human trait.

glockenspiel ,

Greed isn’t the ultimate human trait. Cooperation and curiosity are. We never would have built societies without either. We never would have advanced to the point we have without both. Everyone has greed in them, just like everyone has the opportunity to be angry or sad. But the notion that it is the ultimate human trait or somehow stronger than other characteristics is truly capitalist propaganda meant to justify their immoral hoarding of our wealth.

After all, if greed is the most natural and strongest human attribute… well, the do-nothing takers at the tippy top of the food chain can just continue to suck our blood and deprive us of our agency since it is natural.

There is a reason we don’t live in libertarian hellscapes. It is because greed is not the ultimate human trait.

Oneobi ,

Are you saying society now is not based on greed?

IHaveTwoCows ,

Ya know, you could just buy a portable drive and put all your media on that.

RoseRose56 ,
@RoseRose56@lemmy.world avatar

I know, but tell that to the all the companies with their pop ups. I have 0 subs btw. But my point is not everyone knows how to deal with stuff.

IHaveTwoCows ,

I meant transferring straight from your phone files to a thumb drive or other portable drive

m3t00 ,
@m3t00@lemmy.world avatar

estimate shipping charges eh, prime about even still. not a video user usually. one of few subs actually worth it for me. cable cutting scrooge I am

elscallr ,
@elscallr@lemmy.world avatar

Exactly. I buy Prime for the shipping. Being able to watch Wheel of Time without downloading it is a nice benefit.

Polar ,

I don’t hate subscription based services if they’re priced fairly and make sense.

Paying monthly for a service that then starts giving you less, adds more premium plans, introduces ads, etc. is garbage.

Paying for a game, then having to pay a monthly fee to play (WoW, for example), is garbage.

Paying for software, but then having to pay monthly to use the software, is garbage.

Paying for software, but then having to pay monthly to be allowed to contact support (Blue Iris), is garbage.

But paying for things like Spotify, where you get access to pretty much all songs as they release, have no limit on how much you listen to, and it has a fair student pricing or family pricing, that’s fine. Way better than paying per song.

I mean shit, if I paid for every song I have in my library on Spotify, I’d owe $1430. My Spotify is $17 per month, spit between 4 people, so I pay $4.25. I can either pay for every song in my library and not add any more, or pay for Spotify for 28 years and continue growing my library…

leviathan3k ,

Honestly, this.

The economics of the world are such that people need to be paid for the content they produce. Having a direct relationship between me as the consumer and them as the producer is the way we don’t get shit like all of the ad-based spyware that surrounds shit like Facebook. It won’t completely prevent it, but it gives a good business plan for it not to happen.

I’d vastly prefer something that didn’t require some megacorp as evil as Amazon. But… this could actually make as much sense as is possible with our current economic system.

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Aurix ,

WoW and other MMOs are not just games with slapped on subscription costs. It is a very specific subtype of games which have much higher maintenance cost than an arena shooter. There is a reason these games get shutdown when certain financial thresholds get passed beyond let’s do something more profitable.

dangblingus ,

Nah, fuck subscriptions. If I can’t buy it once and own it, then it’s a scam on consumers. Change my view.

Polar ,

I did. Look at my Spotify example. It’s literally more expensive to own the songs than to pay for Spotify.

Unless you only want like 30 songs.

IHaveTwoCows ,

But the minute you dont subscribe, you have nothing and are out all that money

Polar ,

Still cheaper, though.

I’d rather have access to pretty much every song on demand for $4 per month and not own it, than pay per song.

I pay $4.25 per month for Spotify. That’s $51 per year. I have access to pretty much every song, or I could buy 39 songs to own instead.

I save more than 39 songs per month. Financially it makes no sense to buy them. Especially if you consider I get bored of some songs, and never listen to them again.

ShadowCatEXE ,
@ShadowCatEXE@lemmy.world avatar

The way I look at it, is I don’t pay to listen to the music, I pay for the convenience.

Most music I listen to is on YouTube, where if I wanted to, I could just download it and “own” the song for free. However, in the interest of saving time, letting Spotify create playlists based on what I listen to, I just pay a monthly fee. Not to mention that I can share my playlists on multiple devices, whereas if I download music, I can’t.

I also have a family plan with all spots filled up, so that’s 6 people listening to all their music for $20/mo CAD. Far superior to buying an album or individual songs.

Zhao ,

Spotify is the only subscription I still pay for. That’s it. Everything else is whack

UnD3Rgr0uNDCL0wN ,

Lets call this what it really is: asset stripping.

Taking the finances of the many, for very little service, only to make those elites in large corporations so much richer. These corporations should remember the history of Ratner’s

Cancel your subs, be £15 a month better off.

Crass_Spektakel ,
@Crass_Spektakel@lemmy.world avatar

You know, what you can not find on EBay you can find on PBay. Or whatever warez site you prefer.

nudnyekscentryk ,
@nudnyekscentryk@szmer.info avatar

Mandatory “don’t use piratebay” comment

AllHailTheSheep ,

I haven’t been into the pirating scene for a few years, last time I was active pirate bay was the best. why not use it anymore?

kadu ,
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    Polar ,

    Sure. If you want to torrent from a website that the US government uses as a honeypot.

    Or you can join 2023 and use a proper website. Also ditch that Malware called uTorrent and use qBittorrent.

    kadu ,
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    Polar ,

    Again, imagine using a known bad website when better alternatives exist.

    kadu ,
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    Polar , (edited )

    Canada doesn’t care about torrenting.

    Again, using a known bad site is ignorance. Enjoy your torrents riddled with rootkits and miners.

    nudnyekscentryk ,
    @nudnyekscentryk@szmer.info avatar

    “The Pirate Bay / TPB - Site is no longer moderated, so its very risky for software and games” source

    PM_ME_FEET_PICS ,

    techspot.com/…/99242-pirate-bay-restores-new-user…

    Spud17, moderator of ThePirateBay says you’re wrong.

    Crass_Spektakel ,
    @Crass_Spektakel@lemmy.world avatar

    I say the time of Torents is OVER. Today Streaming-Warez-Sites are the Kick.

    Nitrate55 ,

    I wouldn’t use a pirate streaming site over torrenting even if I was getting paid to do so lol the releases generally have terrible bitrates and low picture quality, likely because they’re the smallest files the site uploaders could find. They’re convenient if you can’t afford a VPN and don’t care about file quality when it comes to movies and shows, but I prefer being able to select a high quality file with good encoding, quality compression (265, AV1), and known high quality uploaders, like UTR and QxR. That’s only possible through torrenting the file or getting it through Usenet.

    Crass_Spektakel ,
    @Crass_Spektakel@lemmy.world avatar

    Nope

    Those Times where Warez-Streaming-Sites had low quality are long gone. While 4k=3840 releases are rare, we have mostly 1920 nowadays with some 1280 in-between, often Bluray- or Streaming-Rips without re-encoding, at least if the source was H264/H265. Older MPEG2/4 though is still often recoded. You can easily re-encode an old MPEG2-Bluray from 20Gig to H265 4Gig without visibly loss. With more modern Codecs the Data is usually “re-containered” which means the Content itself isn’t changed, only the Encryption and Container are changed.

    Overall Streamingz-Sites are pretty good nowadays, Amazon and Netflix take up to one minute to switch to high Bitrate quality for me. With Warez-Sites you have to wait 3-5 seconds but then it immediately starts at Max Quality and NEVER at lower quality. And their Search actually works great and is well organized and everything reacts so much faster because they reduce the eye candy. They also often have bookmarks - which don’t work as good as commercial providers but good enough.

    I can only have access to Amazon, Netflix, Joyn and Public Television Media Centres so for other providers your mileage may vary.

    Nitrate55 ,

    Meh. I still prefer Stremio and my custom configured Jackett setup for searching for torrents. Just has more features and more control. I’ve never encountered a pirate streaming site with even half the features Stremio has. I will grant you that anime streaming sites have gotten a lot better over the years, but I still don’t trust general pirate streaming sites. It’s great to hear they got better though. Easier acess to media is always a good thing.

    Crass_Spektakel ,
    @Crass_Spektakel@lemmy.world avatar

    Torrents of all kinds can be easily tracked and its users be sued because they do not only consume but also distribute.

    One-Click-Hosters and Streamingz-Sites on the other side are hard to track and their users don’t distribute.

    At least by German Law it is mostly “we only care about distribution, not consumption”. The later has an estimated damage of $1 per case, that is not even petty crime. Distribution on the other hand often is handled at $1000/case… I think there was not a single case of a Streamingz-User being prosecuted but already millions of Torrent-Users.

    Nitrate55 , (edited )

    Well this is a non-issue if you live in a country that doesn’t prosecute piracy or if you’re willing to pay for a VPN. I’ve been torrenting for years, and the last time I was caught was before I started using a VPN. I haven’t had a single issue since I started using one. Like I said though, pirate streaming sites work as a great solution for people who might not be able to afford to pay for a VPN or just don’t want the added expense.

    AustralianSimon ,
    @AustralianSimon@lemmy.world avatar

    Usenet > *

    elscallr ,
    @elscallr@lemmy.world avatar

    Pretty much everything on there is monitored by the rights holders and anything that’s not is loaded with malware. L337 or torrent leech is what you want these days, for the mainstream stuff. TL requires invites but they’re easy enough to get and it’s got pretty much all the mainstream TV, movies, and software. If you want more niche stuff you’d want to look around a bit more, though.

    brockpriv ,

    What’s wrong with pirate bay? I’ve been using it for years with no problems

    FordBeeblebrox ,

    Larger % of DMCA tracked stuff than other sites. Set your VPN to a Caribbean country and yo ho ho no worries matey

    rambling_lunatic ,

    I guess I win. I already am in the Caribbean. Call me Captain Jack Sparrow I guess.

    FordBeeblebrox ,

    You’re the worst lunatic I’ve ever heard of

    rambling_lunatic ,

    Well, you have heard of me.

    And now so have the DMCA goons. Blimey.

    FordBeeblebrox ,

    What are they gonna do, send a British Navy ship with a letter of marque? Yo ho ho matey

    rambling_lunatic ,

    Indeed. Latinos and Eastern Europeans have a predilection towards disliking intellectual property laws. And I happen to be an Eastern European living in Latin America.

    nudnyekscentryk ,
    @nudnyekscentryk@szmer.info avatar

    “The Pirate Bay / TPB - Site is no longer moderated, so its very risky for software and games” source

    PM_ME_FEET_PICS ,

    TPB is still moderated. They just had news this year about reopening registrations.

    Astronautical ,

    Well, Pirate Bay is essentially the defacto website someone thinks of when they hear “This person pirates content.” Because of this, game devs, Hollywood execs, etc end up putting out detectable torrents/illegitimate files onto this most popular pirating source.

    UnD3Rgr0uNDCL0wN ,

    I mean even archive dotorg has pirate material on it…

    owatnext , (edited )
    @owatnext@lemmy.world avatar

    Lmao literally the only “subscription” I have is my phone bill, which I pay yearly. Also maybe you’d consider my insurance a subscription? Sounds very dystopian.

    Edit: is rent a subscription? Regularly refilled prescriptions? Where is the line? I have fallen into a quandry.

    maniclucky ,

    Do you pay on a recurring cycle? Can you function in society without it? If yes to both: subscription.

    You need a phone, utilities, rent/mortgage, insurance (if we’re being realistic) so I wouldn’t call them subscriptions.

    m3t00 ,
    @m3t00@lemmy.world avatar

    moved my house phone to a Gvoice account. gets mostly spam anyway. voicemails transcribe to email. bye att

    Bison1911 ,

    Everything is a subscription. It’s the dystopia we have created.

    RedTie13 ,

    I finally dropped Spotify, I still maintain a YouTube Premium subscription, only because I’m grandfathered into their old Google Music plan. I’m finally looking to setup my own Nextcloud and Jellyfin server on a NAS because Google cloud storage starts to get pricey when HDD are so cheap. I do still pay Means TV because if I’m still paying for a streaming service, at least it’s a co-op.

    sharkaccident ,

    You ios or Android user?

    DJDarren ,

    I have YT Premium because I watch 95% of my YouTube through Apple TV, which doesn’t support ad blockers. I discovered that I can “visit” Argentina and sub to YT Premium for about £3 a month. I’m happy enough with that.

    Wogi ,

    Brothers, sisters, others, it’s time we return to the old ways. To the high seas. We steal from those who own, but do not pay to own, the content they distribute. We will share this media amongst ourselves until they learn that we were willing to pay with dollars, but not with time.

    MrSilkworm ,
    @MrSilkworm@lemmy.world avatar

    we shall pirate on the beaches, we shall pirate on the landing grounds, we shall pirate in the fields and in the streets, we shall pirate in the hills; we shall never surrender

    Zealousideal_Fox900 ,

    We shall pirate in the alleys, in the fields, in the chats and we shall never surrender to the greedy hands of Sony, Nintendo and alike

    CurlyMoustache ,
    @CurlyMoustache@lemmy.world avatar

    I miss good old fashioned LAN parties of the 90s and early 00s

    DJDarren ,

    YAAR!

    candle_lighter ,
    @candle_lighter@lemmy.ml avatar

    Learn to torrent and throw Plex or Jellyfin onto your computer then you have your own Spotify and Netflix

    PM_ME_FEET_PICS ,

    Plex doesn’t offer everything Spotify can though.

    candle_lighter ,
    @candle_lighter@lemmy.ml avatar

    Use the Plexamp app

    PM_ME_FEET_PICS ,

    I know Plex can stream music but it does not have a ability of discovery like Spotify has. Not even YouTube comes close.

    For those who set music trends, spotify is a must.

    candle_lighter ,
    @candle_lighter@lemmy.ml avatar

    Not sure if you mean finding more music or having people find music you create. If you intend for people to find your music you created on a private self hosted platform you obviously need to look elsewhere but if you want to find new music to listen to there are still options.

    You can connect Tidal to your Plex and listen to any music on Tidal on Plex and get discovery/recommendations. You can also connect Plex to Last.fm and get recommendations that way. If you want to manually discover music you can use a site that does that like everynoise.com

    PM_ME_FEET_PICS ,

    I’ve used tidal and last.fm in the past. Both have very poor capabilities when giving recommendations.

    I will check out every noise.

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