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Cruxifux , in Ironing

Banning elbows not being allowed on the table and hats not being allowed indoors are also wins for me

protist ,

“Why?”

“Because!”

“…”

evasive_chimpanzee ,

Elbows have always been allowed on the table. The rule for fancy dining was that you couldn’t have elbows on the table during a course, i.e., when people are actively eating, but before/after, it’s fine. That’s a reasonable rule to be considerate of space.

PythagreousTitties ,

Exactly. Food on the table? Elbows off. It’s simple.

SpaceNoodle ,

Why?

PythagreousTitties ,

Respect. Culture. Table manners.
Take your pick.

Edit. Personal eating space is probably the most realistic answer.

SpaceNoodle ,

“Because”

MindTraveller ,

If you have a large number of people eating in comparison to the size of the table, and the table is already covered in food, the only place on the table to put your elbows is in other people’s personal space.

The rule should be “no elbows right next to someone else’s food” but neurotypicals are terrible at communicating due to their underdeveloped social skills and empathy.

PythagreousTitties ,

People other than you, who are not “neurotypicals” whatever tf that even means, are able to accomplish seating large amounts of people at a table and use basic table manners just fine. It’s just common courtesy.

MindTraveller ,

Yes, neurotypicals are indeed able to have large family dinners. But they have to do it using table manners as a crutch. They can’t just have an honest conversation about what’s really necessary, they need to rely on this social construct to tell people what to do without explaining why. It’s a great weakness. If only the average person weren’t so afraid to introspect and to question why we do things.

Tankton ,

Tell me you have autism without telling me you have autism.

Tryptaminev ,

Which is kind of the point he is making. Instead of engaging in a honest talk and understanding the reasoning behind social norms, they are just pushed as normative and understandably confusing to people who struggle with “just behave like everyone else, lol”.

Ironically this is exposing us neurotypicals to be socialy underdeveloped instead of non neurotypical people.

Swedneck ,
@Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

you implying that’s bad?

umbrella , (edited )
@umbrella@lemmy.ml avatar

except he literally implied it to you, and is trying to have an honest conversation about it

Cruxifux ,

Well it’s never been an issue in any space I’ve eaten in, so I think you’re wrong.

PythagreousTitties ,

Good to know you’ve never sat at a table with a lot of people, I guess? Or next to an opposite handed person.

schnokobaer ,

Yeah, no need whatsoever to eat cramped too tightly around a table.

Cruxifux ,

This is one of the few cases where the down and upvotes actually matter for the issue at hand buddy.

Cruxifux ,

Never been an issue for me. The issue would be invading someone’s personal space. Maybe we just have bigger tables where I live.

Honytawk ,

If elbows aren’t allowed on a table during a course of a fancy dinner, they have definitely not always been allowed on the table.

Cruxifux ,

Yeah I thought that was a ridiculous statement as well

LemmyKnowsBest ,

I like the way we don’t have to wear petticoats under our dresses anymore.

Entertainmeonly ,

I mean doesn’t everyone still at least wear the stretchy shorts under their dress? Like I’m not going just panties. That seems so lewd.

GingerGoodness ,

As someone who can’t sit straight I only wore shorts and trousers until I learnt this trick in my twenties. While I personally don’t find it lewd, other people clearly do and I get so pissed off every time someone feels the need to inform me that they’ve been looking up my skirt.

Cruxifux ,

Yeah. Now I just wear them for fun!

CaptainBasculin , in Hes alive so this meme is OK right?

Not being able to pull off an assasination in a country where citizens can legally buy an assualt rifle must be an embarrasment in the history of assasins.

ComicalMayhem ,

it was an incredibly close shot. looks like he coincidentally moved his head the exact moment the shot rang, if he hadn’t he would be gone. factors like windage also play a role. idk which outcome is worse.

Dagamant ,

I also don’t know which outcome would be worse but I do know which one I really wanted in that moment.

Zipitydew ,

MAGA world would collapse from infighting to be the new figure head. So I know which outcome I’d have preferred.

chaogomu ,

Both Trump and the Shooter surviving would have been best. If the kid was able to say exactly why he did it, then all the conspiracy would die. An Trump would have some uncomfortable questions about his involvement with Epstein. That second part might still happen. But likely won’t.

octopus_ink ,

Definitely this one. This just killed my hope that he loses again, and you know the Gravy Seals are going to step up their harassment and violence towards people - and that would have been true either way. At least with the other outcome he doesn’t get in.

He couldn’t have asked for a better gift for his campaign.

ComicalMayhem ,

him dying would’ve turned him into a martyr and basically solidified him as a saint, if not a god, to the maga crowd. I can imagine the repercussions of that. there’s also the possibility that someone worse replaces him, someone just as fascist and selfish but twice as competent, and that would be disastrous. y’know, the whole “guys I went back in time and killed Hitler” trope/joke.

deranger ,

Now he’s a living martyr.

ComicalMayhem ,

this is true…

Sanctus ,
@Sanctus@lemmy.world avatar
octopus_ink ,

and basically solidified him as a saint, if not a god, to the maga crowd.

I’m pretty sure that’s already true, but I see your point overall.

winterayars ,

A lot of them already called him “the God Emperor”, so…

LodeMike ,

Yeah but then he couldnt be in the oval, which is what actually matters lol.

ComicalMayhem ,

others have made a terrifying point that his death could incite another instruction like Jan 6.

Scubus ,

Which biden would be prepared to deal with. Keep in mind that Trump was in office for Jan 6. One might even consider that a good thing, as this time with a competent president there would be less victims, and more insurrectionists getting their voting rights taken away.

veniasilente ,
@veniasilente@lemm.ee avatar

¿Biden competent? He’s probably gonna die of old age by Jan 5, and if not, is going to be ordering who knows what crap with his dementia on Jan 6…

Agrivar ,

You’re going to have to do better if you want to fool anyone, estúpido troll ruso.

Scubus ,

Don’t engage, just mark him as a right wing troll with a user note so you can remember not to engage with him.

veniasilente ,
@veniasilente@lemm.ee avatar

I’ll give you one (1) pity point for jumping right to the low hanging tree category for personal attack.

LodeMike ,

I still think that would be better

retrospectology ,
@retrospectology@lemmy.world avatar

He’s already a god to his followers. People literally paint him as the second coming of Jesus Christ. There is no one worse in this moment than Donald Trump.

Atin ,

Sure there are people who are worse. There are people behind their movement that have not stuck their head up and are competent.

retrospectology ,
@retrospectology@lemmy.world avatar

Sure, yet none of them are able to do what Trump does. That’s why it’s taken 40+ years for them to get to this point. The Mitch McConnells and such might be politically saavy, but they don’t have the “charisma” of Donald Trump to actually pull off the end game. That’s why they all protect him so much, he’s a cult figure, which can be difficult to fabricate.

Track_Shovel ,

As someone indicated below, he’s now a living martyr. I would place money that he uses this to galvanize his following and it actually benefits him in the polls.

He needed to die in an embarrassing way (lethal dose of ex-lax?) for it to hurt his reputation.

I don’t buy the ‘pave the way for someone worse’ argument. Who would that be? I can’t think of anyone right now, except for maybe De Santis in terms of actually being somewhat competent.

https://slrpnk.net/pictrs/image/b5c27087-2014-4452-a42b-3f3fcdf85e99.png

JohnnyH842 ,

Might not be a politician. He wasn’t before he became president.

Tja ,

Cruz is competent and evil, ramashwarmy will do anything the likes of miller and bannon come up with, de sanstis as you said… There are worse options, frightingly…

Mirshe ,

Haley isn’t really afraid to say the quiet part loud.

Agent641 ,

Apparently, eating C-4 causes diarrhoea. Bomb tech recruits would be fed small amounts of C-4 and then chased around with a taser, a shock from which they feared would set it off, while trying not to shit themselves

zbyte64 ,

A perversion of the word Martyr as it requires one to walk in faith. The appropriating of religious symbols merely as an aesthetic is really on brand…

Bgugi ,

Martyr apparently comes from Greek meaning “one who testifies in court.” The religious connotations came later.

GladiusB ,
@GladiusB@lemmy.world avatar

No it wasn’t. He has zero injuries. It could even been a shard of glass on the stage. Stages are dirty fucking things that no one cleans once they are up.

ComicalMayhem ,

what the actual fuck are you talking about? a shard of glass, in the ear?

there are two possibilities. this was a failed assassination attempt or this was an elaborately staged plot to boost his popularity.

GladiusB ,
@GladiusB@lemmy.world avatar

One of the news outlets reported that. But nevermind reading what is actually written.

Excrubulent ,
@Excrubulent@slrpnk.net avatar

If the bullet went through a teleprompter he could’ve been hit by the shards. That would explain all the slashes on his face.

zero_spelled_with_an_ecks ,

Like a real life Day of the Jackal.

Blackmist ,

Assuming it was actually the bullet that injured his ear, and not the 10 secret service guys wrestling a 78 year old man to the ground.

ArcaneSlime ,

In the video he reacts to something before being tackled, kinda ducking his head a little and grabbing at his ear. He was hit by something, but I’ve heard some conjecture it may have been shrapnel from a shot teleprompter, so seems to either be that or a bullet itself.

Wxnzxn ,
@Wxnzxn@lemmy.ml avatar

That’s why you aim for the torso, center of mass, smh, frfr

TankovayaDiviziya ,

Some still survive injury to the head so if you want to kill someone instantly, try to aim for the heart. Security services know this that’s why persons of interest are advised to wear bulletproof vests. I am guessing Trump is wearing one so had the shooter tried to aim for the torso, that would have been more embarrassing than near-missing Trump to the head.

Thcdenton ,

assualt

BeigeAgenda ,
@BeigeAgenda@lemmy.ca avatar

It’s a lesser known manufacturer, but a hit at gun shows.

/J

teradome , in The real hero of Terminator 2

Best thing about this is that it is canonically true; “Cameron believed that cops, institutionalized in a system that encourages them to abuse their power, were a perfect representation of the inhumanity that led to the creation of murderous robots.” screenrant.com/terminator-2-movie-james-cameron-t…

Cypher ,

Cops rushing to have lethal robots just proves him right.

SatanicNotMessianic ,

Ironically, Robocop would have defended him from the terminators.

I really do miss the 80s/90s era anti-capitalist dystopian future movies. We have the Purge series now, which has been pretty good (at least 3 and 4), but nothing approaching the massive numbers of productions ranging from They Live to Rollerboys to Robocop to Running Man and so many others.

It feels like we’ve hit a tipping point where subconsciously at least we’ve figured out we’re actually the bad guys from Red Dawn and the Wolverines are the people we’re killing, and just decided to lean into it. I’m waiting for Handmaid’s Tale to get a Birth of a Nation makeover in the next ten years.

Imgonnatrythis ,

I’m at the point where I’m all for robot cops.

darkpanda ,

This was the subject of a limited run comics series by Dark Horse called Robocop vs The Terminator that was pretty rad. It was written by Frank Miller or Sin City and The Dark Knight Rises fame who also wrote the script for Robocop 2. It kind of led to a video game as well. No idea what that was like but the comics were pretty decent as I recall.

samus12345 ,
@samus12345@lemmy.world avatar
jaybone ,

The 80s/90s anti corporate dystopia was oddly (or maybe not so oddly) a prediction of the outcome of the other 80s/90s movies and media which were very much pro corporate propaganda. The young white male up-and-coming corporate exec, making money, driving fancy cars, was definitely an image they were selling hard in the 80s. Which seemed to align with Reagan’s view of the world.

SatanicNotMessianic ,

You’re absolutely right. In my memory, though, the ones that stick out the most are the ones where the hero is pro-corporate but in an anti-corporate way. I’m thinking about movies like Working Girl, 9 to 5, and Secret of My Success, and even Other People’s Money. The villains were the very straight and square boss types and the heroes were the young(er) upstarts who could out-business them. OPM was a little different but I think it fits the theme.

The main difference I’m seeing is that even in the pro-capitalism shows, it was still all about sticking it to the man. If the good guys were cops, the man was the chief of police. If the good guys were businessmen, the man was their boss. If the good guys were soldiers, the man was their CO, or the generals or politicians back in Washington.

Maybe it’s purely subjective on my part, but it seems like there’s a lot more pro-authority movies being made now. You can’t take a movie like Top Gun (which still had the shaggy haired rebel as well as one of the most homoerotic themes in mainstream cinema at the time) with something like Bill Murray in Stripes. Stripes is great comedy that I’d place almost at the level of Caddyshack, but even though both movies could have been shown by recruiters to get people to enlist, Stripes was still a goofball comedy of the slobs against the snobs (with the snobs in this case being their leadership).

I’d really like to get back into that kind of default cultural image. Cops were mostly corrupt (Serpico) or idiots (Cannonball Run), or else inept (Escape from New York, or all of those stupid Charles Bronson movies).

It just feels like we hit that point where the default is to love Big Brother.

UNWILLING_PARTICIPANT , (edited )

That sounds very much like the valourisation of what would eventually morph into “disruptive innovation.”

Older money loves feeling like it’s hip and cool for investing in the promising young upstart. They get to rage against the machine while driving it

Excrubulent ,
@Excrubulent@slrpnk.net avatar

It’s also a tactically sound decision for the T1000 to impersonate a cop, because they have powers that are made to be abused. It’s a perfect reflection of the fact that the job attracts abusive personalities.

NigelFrobisher ,

Also, this was only two years before the Rodney King beating and subsequent LA Riots, with 911 Is A Joke and Ice T on the radio. LAPD as villains was in the air.

UNWILLING_PARTICIPANT ,

Wow I can see all that in the movie, but didn’t know it was an explicit choice! This Cameron guy sounds pretty cool

RememberTheApollo_ ,

Cameron is kind of a dick, but he makes good movies.

UNWILLING_PARTICIPANT ,

Well shucks, that sucks

FoundTheVegan , in it really makes sense
@FoundTheVegan@kbin.social avatar

Fake for any of those wondering.

But keeping employees based on how many lines of code they have written, which he did, is essentially the same logic.

Ilovethebomb ,

Ernest Hemingway was paid by the word, which shows in his work. I imagine this pay structure would have a similar effect on how people code.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

I’m not a coder, but wanting code that isn’t streamlined seems like a bad plan to me.

Lamps ,

Please correct me if I’m wrong, but I thought that saying was for Dickens? Wasn’t Hemingway famously terse?

nilloc ,

I thought it was about Steven King, but it might just be all the cocaine he did.

AA5B ,

I would do so poorly there, in many ways …. I love those days when my lines of code is negative

TheBlue22 ,

There are 2 things in coding that are incredibly satisfying for me:

  1. Compiling after implementing a fuckton of features
  2. Deleting a massive amount of code after refactoring for a while
whereBeWaldo ,

My ass would just write functions that take a huge amount of parameters and assign one in each line

HawlSera ,

Oh the amount of redundant code I would write

PotatoesFall , in Jesse is smarter than what we give him credit for.

Flaws:

  • fails to address leap years
  • fails to address 365th day
  • moon cycle will still slowly deviate
  • retains clunky 7-day week that doesn’t interact will with decimal counting system

I like it, but I got an even better proposal. Weeks should have ten day weeks, and each month should have 3 weeks. summer/winter solstice and the spring/autumn equinox as well as new years day are special holidays that fall between months and interrupt the week cycle. In leap years, new years is two days.

The 1st, 11th and 21st of each month are now Mondays, so you can tell the weekday of any date. Months are the same length just like in Jesse’s proposal, but an even 30 instead of a clunky 28.

I’ve thought about this a lot

alldreadme ,
@alldreadme@lemmy.world avatar

Don’t touch my weekends

huginn ,

5 day weekend

STRIKINGdebate2 OP ,
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amda ,

We could fit three break day in a a 10 day week (3/10 is slightly bigger than 2/7). We could put the third day in the middle of the week to not have 7 work days in a row. In the fourth day mabey?

odium ,

I vote we work on days 2,3,4 and 7,8,9 of the week.

Norgur ,

Any solution that has some form of "oh those days? Nah, we don't count those" is disqualified immediately in my book.

superduperenigma ,

As a software developer, I would rather give up the 1.25 days off a year just to not have to work around some weird monthless and weekless date every year.

PotatoesFall ,

Hm fair enough. Let’s make the intercalary days part of the last week of the last month before they happen for programming/numbering purposes. So Midsummer is just June 31st, or the 11th day of the 18th week.

name_NULL111653 ,

laughs in Egyptian…

They had 5 or 6 intercalary holidays to celebrate the new year and adjust to the rise of the Nile (and we’d adjust it to astronomical time with leap years). It actually worked really well, and kept the people happy with a 5-day rest and celebration each year (something this world could definitely use).

Norgur ,

They didn't have software though and you don't know if it either worked well (since the ppl who kept this system going were the same people who wrote about it) nor of it kept ppl happy. Besides: you can do that without the "not counting those" part, couldn't you?

Godnroc ,

I think of it like the appendices of a book. The main story is counted with numbers, page 10, but the appendix is counted with Roman numerals, page X. While adding to the appendix increases the number of pages in the book, it does not change the length of the story.

SpeakinTelnet ,
@SpeakinTelnet@sh.itjust.works avatar

Current workforce is schedule around a 7day centric week. It’s far easier to reorganize where the weeks fall in the year than changing the structure of a week. Suddenly the workforce would have segment of work overlapping between weeks, it’s an organizational nightmare.

The international fixed calendar did propose a solution for the 365 days and leap year but it’s basically out-of-the-week holidays.

PotatoesFall ,

wdym? How is 10 more difficult than 7?

xenspidey ,

It actually does account for keep years. …m.wikipedia.org/…/International_Fixed_Calendar

Kusimulkku ,

Leap years and keep years

r00ty Admin ,
r00ty avatar

Weeks should have ten day weeks, and each month should have 3 weeks.

Here's why I'm going to say no. It's because businesses would just rip us off by turning the working week into 8 days and just retaining the 2 day weekend.

No, and double no.

enki ,

Businesses don’t have the power to do that if we collectively tell them no. But that being said, how DO you split up a 10-day week keeping the same basic ratio of “weekend” days?

Three weekdays, followed by a single “weekend” day or mid-week break, then four weekdays followed by a two-day weekend?

demonquark ,

That’s very pessimistic. It assumes that there is a corporate led reform. Which is unlikely. If it was a grass roots campaign, the call for change would include a weekend proposal from the start. By the time businesses come around to supporting it, the weekend will alredy be defined as 3-work-2-off, or 7-work-3-off.

HappycamperNZ ,

Or just have days that are just not a part of the week - like Leap years - are their own day.

xeekei ,

What names shall we give the new weekdays? Because I was thinking maybe we should rename a few existing ones, so no weekdays start with the same letters. Then they can be abbreviated to their respective first letters.

owatnext ,

Someday, Funday, and Oneday.

Enkers ,

“Hey, when are you going to do that thing I asked you to do?”

“Ohhhh, Someday… Shit.”

Patches ,

Realistic Answer:

Workday1, Workday2, Workday3.v2.Final

Because we would absolutely end up working on them. Who the fuck wants a longer work week?

Ryan213 ,
@Ryan213@lemmy.world avatar

Our corporate overlords will want 8-day work-weeks. LOL

realitista ,

Yeah I’m only in if we get 3 days off per week.

PhreakyByNature ,

No dammit, we want 3 days off in the current 7 day week cycle. 5 days off a 10 day week works for me. We ask for that, get negotiated down to 4 day weekends and it works.

realitista ,

Fair enough, make it happen!

MightyGalhupo ,

That would be amazing. Rn we take a little under a third of a week off. With that we would take almost half a week off.

jballs ,
@jballs@sh.itjust.works avatar

I dunno man, if hump day meant I still had the rest of the day plus 3 more days until the weekend, I think I’d snap.

realitista ,

Yeah you’d definitely need one day in the middle. Or Id say even better, a 3 day and 2x2 day work weeks with days off in between.

dojan ,
@dojan@lemmy.world avatar

Five days off at least.

name_NULL111653 ,

Congratulations, you’ve successfully reinvented the Egyptian civil calendar, complete with the intercalary holidays and all. Literally the only change is to add weeks. And yes, it did work really well, especially since the feast could add or lose a day to adjust to a known reference (the rise and fall of the Nile in their case). I second this proposal to go back.

Siegfried ,

I like the 10 days week, but people, please rush to create a new religion to cover multiple free days or im out

Swedneck ,
@Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

every other day is labour day, and thus a holiday.

GreenMario ,

The extra days of the week is called Lazyday, Chillsday, and Beersday.

It is forbidden to work on these days, the Lord commands it.

HeyThisIsntTheYMCA ,
@HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world avatar

My religion has a holy day called I’m taking today off or I’ll cut you

Zagorath ,
@Zagorath@aussie.zone avatar

Weeks should have ten day weeks

And instead of calling them “weeks”, we could call them by the much more self-explanatory term “tendays”.

summer/winter solstice and the spring/autumn equinox as well as new years day are special holidays that fall between months and interrupt the week cycle

You can simplify it a little bit by putting the intercalary days between months, rather than using them for the solstices. We can put Midwinter between January 30 and February 1 and Midsummer between July 30 and August 1, in the northern hemisphere.

For the sake of putting it in a more user-friendly location, our leap day should be in the summer for the northern hemisphere (where most of the population is). So put it the day after Midsummer.

The only thing I would do differently from the Calendar of Harptos is that, like you, I would use New Year’s Day as the 5th annual intercalary day.

Hexarei ,
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Intercalary is one of those words I never expect to hear outside of the app.fantasy-calendar.com userbase

Zagorath ,
@Zagorath@aussie.zone avatar

Ok, I’ve never heard of that site before, but I am definitely in its target market. Thanks for sharing!

Hexarei ,
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You’re very welcome! It’s ultra useful for my dnd campaigns, I try to share it any chance I get

PotatoesFall ,

the equinoxes and solstices are roughly 90 days apart anyway so we can do both :)

Calendar of Harptos actually influenced my post hehe

Zagorath ,
@Zagorath@aussie.zone avatar

the equinoxes and solstices are roughly 90 days apart anyway so we can do both

Right, but my point was that we shouldn’t use either equinoxes or solstices, because they occur around the 21st of their month at present. It’s better to put the intercalary days in between months so that a single month doesn’t get awkwardly split up.

blanketswithsmallpox ,

Just don’t propose a unified earth/solar time even though it’s going to be necessary once we start spacefaring more lol.

Funnily enough this issue is being brought up a lot on Lemmy recently. I’ve been at the IFC and Fixed Time haters for a bit in a different thread lol.

worldtimeserver.com/…/the-proposal-to-abolish-tim…

PotatoesFall ,

I recently thought of abolishing timezones altogether and everybody I told thought I was batshit crazy. thank you!

Fogle ,

What’s the work schedule

mosiacmango ,

Less.

1rre ,

3-1-4-2 would work and give 70% work to 30% off - currently we have 71.4% work in a 7 day week so it’s pretty similar with less friday burnout

Fogle ,

Should just be 3 2 3 2

1rre ,

Should be from workers’ perspective, but 3-1-4-2 is still a win for pretty much everyone as it would most likely improve productivity potentially more than 4-3 while also giving “more” (marginally, but still about 4 days per year) time off than 5-2

afraid_of_zombies ,

Dec can be the month with 29 days and a 4 year leap day. That way all the nonsense is in one place.

Moon cycle doesn’t matter.

7 day system is not clunky it is human.

sirdorius ,

Sounds a lot like the French Revolutionary Calendar: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Republican_calendar#…

burgersc12 ,

This is what I want! Fuck, this has it all! Its beautiful!

Corkyskog ,

The 365th day is new years day… duh.

dQw4w9WgXcQ ,

I don’t see why 7 day weeks are bad in regard to the number system. We rarely need to divide the days of the week into equal portions. Remembering 1, 8, 15 and 22 as mondays would be trivial after a while.

You also claim that failure to address the 365th day and leap years is an issue, but your proposal also includes several cycle-breaking days. So the same issue would persist.

Moon deviation isn’t something I really worry about, but having a period which almost align with the cycle seems useful. It would be easy to just examine the initial phase within the month to chart out the rest of the month.

However, I think the biggest flaw is that the calendar would be divided into 13 equal parts, which sucks to divide into typical use cases, i.e. into 2 parts. You could split the 7th month, but it’s not really elegant. Dividing the year into 3 or 4 parts would be a mess.

MeanEYE ,
@MeanEYE@lemmy.world avatar

There are a number of different propositions. All with some benefits and downsides.

wolfpack86 ,

I hope that one of the new days is named after you and we all curse you every Potatuesday for creating more workdays.

PotatoesFall ,

Having a day called Potatuesday… might be worth it

intensely_human ,

Weeks should have a prime number of days. It’s not wise to be dividing weeks up.

PotatoesFall ,

why not?

alcoholicorn , in Casual reminder

Yall need to learn some history.

The liberal SDP split with the communists, supporting “centrist” Hindenburg in the name of unity.

The communists campaigned on “A vote for Hindenburg is a vote for Hitler is a vote for war”

Hindenburg won the election, getting more votes than either the communist or fascist candidates.

Hindenburg, the liberal candidate, then proceeded to make Hitler the chancellor and staff positions of power with nazis while purging the government of communists.

The nazis then barely had to do anything to assert complete control.

The nazis didn’t get in power because communists stayed home, they got into power because the liberals would rather work with fascists than communists.

TropicalDingdong ,

The Nazis didn’t get in power because communists stayed home, they got into power because the liberals would rather work with fascists than communists.

Lets not bury the lede. You run weak Democrats, you comprise with fascists (or just do the policies yourself; Biden’s border bill, Congressional support for making criticism of Israel a hate crime) : this is the path you put us on.

FreudianCafe ,

Those lib kids would be very upset if they could read

disguy_ovahea ,

Cool. In this comparison, none of that matters and the Tweet has a completely valid point.

Unless you suspect Biden will be appointing Trump in his cabinet if he wins?

alcoholicorn ,

We’ve been saying from day one, that if Biden doesn’t move to the left and use every tool at his disposal to improve people’s material conditions, Trump’s going to win in 2024.

Biden didn’t just not go left, he tried to outflank the republicans from the right by facilitating genocide, ending covid protections, and passing the most draconian border bill since like the 40s.

This is the closest thing he could have done to handing Trump the presidency, short of appointing him VP and stepping down.

disguy_ovahea , (edited )

Your hyperbole is over the top. Trump’s Title 42 and Muslim ban were far worse.

POTUS has no reasonable control over grocery store prices, which is the part of the economy everyone is most concerned with. Last time an Executive Order was used to price fix the food industry, it blew up in Nixon’s face. Supply chain constraints were industry wide, and when the order expired, prices went up far past standard inflation. The other big concern is housing, which could be addressed with legislation if Democrats had congressional majority.

I completely agree about support of Israel. The only comparison is knowing Trump will be worse for Palestinians. It’s terrible to reconcile, but those are the options.

Abstaining isn’t voting for Trump, it’s refusing to stand in his way.

alcoholicorn ,

Trump’s Title 42 and Muslim ban were far worse.

Biden waited 3.5 years to end title 42 and tried to close the border. He has deported more people than Trump.

POTUS has no reasonable control over grocery store prices

He literally does though. But there’s a million other things he could have done when he had control. Instead we just get excuses about how powerless the party controlling both houses and the presidency was because of Manchin or the parliamentarian or the SCOTUS or some rules the dems set for themselves or norms or whatever.

There’s no point in quibbling about whether Biden was less bad than trump, these actions decrease how many people will vote for him. Implementing policy that makes you lose the election is refusing to stand in republican’s way.

disguy_ovahea ,

Wrong.

Biden ended the Muslim Ban on Jan 21, 2021, the day after he was inaugurated.

www.usatoday.com/story/travel/news/…/4240420001/

He ended Title 42 on May 20, 2022, but the measure was stopped by federal judges. It took until May of 2023 to be completed.

texastribune.org/…/title-42-border-judge-ruling-m…

alcoholicorn ,
  1. Nobody is talking about the Muslim ban, we’re talking about the more recent attempt to close the mexican border.

But it’s irrelevant, you’re still missing the point.

My point is that Biden’s unpopular actions decrease how many people will vote for him. This is how Biden ensures Trump will come to power.

disguy_ovahea , (edited )

Did you not read the second half of my comment? He ended Title 42 a year and a half after taking office. Federal judges stopped it for a year.

You wrote three and a half years.

You fabricate information in your comments often. I will always call out misinformation.

Cite your sources and stop with the lies.

Incidentally, you quoted my point about the Muslim ban in your previous comment. So yeah, we were certainly talking about it.

Biden has done plenty of good where Trump did nothing or actively worsened things for the working class, minorities, and the planet. You only select Biden’s worst policies to define his presidency.

alcoholicorn ,

It doesn’t matter if his excuse was some court he can just ignore and face no consequences asked him to keep it in place or if did it on a whim, he had the power to change it, he didn’t use it. It was in place for like 3 and a half years.

You’re not calling out misinformation, you’re quibbling.

disguy_ovahea ,

You inflated his inaction on Title 42 by two years. Quibbling my ass. I’m calling you a liar. This is not the first time I’ve called you out on false information.

Something tells me it won’t be the last.

alcoholicorn ,

He took an action that took 3 years to complete instead of ending it on day one and telling the courts to fuck off.

That’s keeping it in place for 3 years.

This isn’t misinformation, this is you being intentionally dense.

disguy_ovahea , (edited )

POTUS is the head of the Executive Branch. He has no control over the Judicial Branch other than appointing judges in the event of vacancy.

Telling them to “fuck off” is meaningless nonsense.

Also, it still wasn’t three years. From inauguration in January of 2021 to May of 2022. You seem to really want to be right. You’d probably have more success if you cited accurate information.

alcoholicorn ,

it still wasn’t three years.

Oh no it was closer to 2.5 years than 3.5 years!

Come on, you know this doesn’t refute my point.

Telling them to “fuck off” is meaningless nonsense.

The SCOTUS has no means to enforce its decisions. It knows this and has historically kowtowed to the executive when faced with its own marginalization.

The president literally can just ignore them, as Trump did when they made a ruling he didn’t like such as DACA. There’s some other precedents: revealnews.org/…/a-brief-history-of-presidents-te…

disguy_ovahea , (edited )

As I said, it was a year and a half when he ended Title 42. It was two and a half years due to Federal court. Your initial claim was three and a half years. Is it that hard to admit that you’re wrong?

I’m done with your repeated misrepresentation of my argument, and childish suggestions that “he can just do what he wants” and tell the judge to “fuck off.”

Good night.

TropicalDingdong ,

@disguy_ovahea

You shouldn’t engage with this guy. Its always a bait and switch/ false premise/ straw man with this guy.

You make a point about an actual bill (the mexican border bill), he makes it about trump and a muslim ban.

Its always in bad faith. Its a condition of blue MAGA.

disguy_ovahea , (edited )

Read the thread you’re so confident in condemning.

I cited my statements while your friend here repeatedly made false claims.

The Mexican Border bill you’re referring to is an Executive Order, not congressional legislation. Trump’s border Executive Order was the Muslim ban. Neither of which required congressional approval, and therefore are directly equatable.

Maybe you two should get a place together in misinformation land.

TropicalDingdong ,

Just downvote and move along.

Blue fash is still fash. They aren’t an allie.

disguy_ovahea ,

In 2016 I voted for Bernie in the primary, and Hillary in the election.

Using my civic duty to compromise for the lesser of two evils does not make me a fascist.

Name calling is unproductive and childish. Have a conversation or find someone else to use as your stepladder to superiority.

audiomodder ,

If you look at many people’s material conditions during Trump and during Biden, they haven’t gotten better. You can say whatever you want about Biden’s policies, his cabinet appointments, and how much Democrats have done when they hold power, but at the end of the day it hasn’t changed most folks’ lives one bit. It might be good metric-wise, but until folks feel like they’re better off it doesn’t matter.

Also, it’s hilarious to me how much shit Republicans seem to get done even when they don’t hold the House, Senate, and White House together, but the minute Republicans get one of those, suddenly it’s “oh shit Democrats can’t do anything”. It’s like Republicans are playing with nukes and Democrats are showing up with rubber band guns.

And no, I won’t be voting for Biden, I’ll be voting third party. And I know, you think “a vote for a third party is a vote for Trump”, but I don’t give a shit. I’ve been seeing this same “at least I’m not…” shit for 25 years and watching our country be sold to the highest bidder under both parties. At this point, if we can’t figure out shit out, we deserve to be razed to the ground.

octopus_ink ,

Supply chain constraints were industry wide, and when the order expired, prices went up far past standard inflation.

Just a reminder to folks emphasizing that retailers used that as cover for corporate greed, and a lot of it was lies. Various links:

dailymontanan.com/…/trade-watchdog-big-retailers-…

nytimes.com/…/grocery-prices-pandemic-ftc.html

news.harvard.edu/…/retailers-have-been-cutting-co…

Great quote from that Harvard one:

HBS research suggests firms have held off lowering them because it appears consumers got used to paying more

The FTC report that is the basis for the first three links above: ftc.gov/…/ftc-releases-report-grocery-supply-chai…

And don’t get me started on shrinkflation.

disguy_ovahea ,

That’s true of the post-pandemic food industry prices for sure. That description was regarding the failure of Nixon’s attempt to price fix with an Executive Order.

octopus_ink ,

Oh sorry I was clearly not paying much attention to what I was reading. Thanks for the gentle correction.

disguy_ovahea ,

No problem. Thank you for citing sources in your comment. I always appreciate substantiation in this world of misinformation.

protist ,

Biden didn’t just not go left, he tried to outflank the republicans from the right by facilitating genocide, ending covid protections, and passing the most draconian border bill since like the 40s.

This is one of the worst examples of confirmation bias I have ever seen. The Biden Administration’s entire record is out there for you to peruse, and you pick 3 things out of hundreds, possibly thousands, that you think justify your comparison.

TrickDacy ,

he tried to outflank the republicans from the right

You really expect to be taken seriously saying some idiotic shit like this?

Samsy ,

Outflanking the rights is a bad decision, because you put their extreme positions into mainstream.

Holzkohlen ,

I think it’s more like Trump getting elected and he is appointing Putin as US president. Which isn’t that far off, is it?

Belastend ,

During Hitlers Ascent to Power, the communist still considered the SPD to be the bigger threat and refused to march with them. And the SPD of the 1930 were by no means “liberals”. They were further to the left than any democrat has ever been.

volodya_ilich ,

the communist still considered the SPD to be the bigger threat and refused to march with them

…which was confirmed when they agreed with the Nazis… And when they collaborated with the Freikorps to crush, torture, and murder the communists.

And the SPD of the 1930 were by no means “liberals”. They were further to the left than any democrat has ever been.

Go ask Rosa Luxembourg, leader of communists in Germany and murdered at 47 at the order of SPD, how progressive and left the SPD was. “Left is when you agree to murder and torture communists”. Fucking revisionists man

Belastend ,

They agreed with Hitler? They were the only faction voting against him during the Gleichschaltungkrise.

“Left is when you agree tp torture and murder communists”. So we both agree that the Stalinist Sovietunion and the KPD, which allied themselves with them arent left?

No, both SPD and KPD were way to the left of all pther political parties and had they banded together, like they did during the Kappputsch, my homecountry wouldnt have been destroyed and 60 Million People would probably still be alive. After every other institution failed Germany, these two failed them in conjunction by not even trying to organize a joined force.

volodya_ilich ,

So we both agree that the Stalinist Sovietunion and the KPD, which allied themselves with them arent left?

One country ended up with Nazis. The other ended up defeating the Nazis. I’d say the Bolsheviks did a better job, didn’t they? The fact that there was oppression against Mensheviks and SRs in the context of a civil war, doesn’t mean they’re anticommunists, they didn’t quite literally enable the Nazis in order to murder the ones who were more communist than them, but defeat them instead.

Want to find the blame for Nazism in Germany? The fault is primarily of Nazis, and then of Nazi enablers, and then of anti-communist leftists.

HelixDab2 ,

The other ended up defeating the Nazis. I’d say the Bolsheviks did a better job, didn’t they?

Uh. The Bolsheviks actively collaborated with Hitler and the Nazis, right up until Operation Barbarossa. The Soviets carved up Poland between themselves and Germany, and tried to invade Finland (Winter War, Continuation War), which is why the Finns ended up allying with the Nazis after Operation Barbarossa.

volodya_ilich ,

Got it bro, the actual Nazis aren’t the Nazis, neither the ones who eliminated the most radical oppositors to Nazism, but actually the ones that died 26+mn of trying to fight them. God, you anti-communist revisionists are exhausting.

The Bolsheviks actively collaborated with Hitler and the Nazis, right up until Operation Barbarossa

Ugh, not this Nazi talking point again… The Soviet Union pursued for all the 30s a policy called “collective security”, in which it desperately tried to achieve mutual-defense pacts with England, France and Poland because the soviets knew that their 15-year-old nation which had only just started industrializing since the end of the feudal and backwards Russian Empire, didn’t have a chance alone against the Nazis with their 150 year long history of industry (as would be seen later with the USSR suffering 26+mn deaths during the war, in places like Belarus 1 in 4 people died). The USSR wanted these mutual defense agreements to the point of offering to send 1 million soldiers to France and England if they agreed to mutual defense… which France, England and Poland denied because they thought Nazis would attempt their declared goal of eliminating communisnm and massacring the “slavic untermenschen”. After this was denied and it was obvious that the west would rather see the USSR invaded than reach a mutual defense agreement, they did the only possible course of action: delaying the war as much as possible to prepare for it and industrialize a bit more. That’s where the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact takes place, not before a decade of exhausting every possible negotiation route with France and England in opposition to Nazism.

The fact that the USSR then proceeded to (rather bloodlessly, around 50k deaths overall, very comparable to the oppression within the USSR itself) invade Poland, has to do with the USSR not trusting the Polish government. Why? In 1917, the Bolshevik revolution drafted an unprecedentedly progressive constitution which granted the right to self-determination and lawful secession to all peoples of the former Russian Empire. That’s how many countries such as Finland or Poland suddenly gained independence lawfully and peacefully in a never-before-seen act of respect of the right of self-determination. What did Poland immediately proceed to do? Become fully nationalist, ignore the right to self-determination of other peoples, and invade Ukraine (and later the USSR) in an attempt to gain territories they considered theirs by historical right. When they had conquered a good chunk of modern Ukraine and Belarus, the Polish Government decided it was a good idea to start a war against the USSR, since the USSR was plunged deep into a civil war and didn’t have many resources or troops to defend itself, and some conquests and victories could grant them a positive peace agreement which granted the territories the Polish Nationalists considered theirs (while ignoring the right to self-determination that the Bolsheviks had granted them less than two years earlier). Poland was also happy to make peace and appeasement treaties with Nazi Germany as long as they could also get some territorial gains from Czechoslovak land.

Similarly, Finland in 1917 after gaining independence, was plunged into a civil war between communists and whites, which the latter won and proceeded to imprison communists in Finland who had supported the Reds, around 80k of which some 12k died (funny how nobody talks about that). The USSR had reasons to suspect of a possible alliance between the Finnish government and the Nazis, and proceeded to invade Finland. After the failure of the invasion, as you said, Finland joined the Nazis.

Blaming the USSR for entering a non-aggression treaty with the Nazis, when all western nations had done it, and after 10 years of the USSR trying to make mutual defense agreement with Poland, England and France, is at best ignorant, and at worst purposefully misinforming with an agenda. The USSR had reasons to suspect of Poland and Finland (especially given its history of constant betrayals by all European powers since the October Revolution, with 14 countries sending troops to aid the Tsarist loyalists against the Bolsheviks) and, while outright invasions may not be justified, it could all have been prevented if the western powers had actually agreed to fight nazism. It’s absolutely nuts to blame the USSR and call them “collaborators with Nazis” given the historical background of the two decades before the war, especially the latter.

HelixDab2 ,

rather bloodlessly, around 50k deaths overall,

Wut.

50,000 deaths is ‘rather bloodlessly’? And since that’s comparable to oppression within the USSR, it’s not that bad?

while outright invasions may not be justified,

Correct. That, right there, is the most important point you’ve made. They collaborated with Nazis to carve up territories, and were then shocked when the Nazis turned on them. As far as the appeasement pacts made with Nazi Germany by France, England, et al., there’s very, very good reasons why the Vichy gov’t and Quisling are viewed so negatively by everyone that isn’t an apologist.

volodya_ilich ,

Good job evading the uncomfortable 90% of my comment. Since we’re at that point, I will proceed to evade 100% of yours, seeing how you’re not interested in discussing actual facts such as the reasons for the USSR to make a non aggression treaty with the Nazis after a decade of systematic rejection of military alliances by Poland, England and France.

Thief_of_Crows ,

Did you even read his comment dude?

MindTraveller ,

Wowsers, that’s horrible! I’ll make sure not to vote for Biden if he nominates Trump as his VP.

Aceticon ,

It looks a lot like in a way History is repeating itself: the Democrat Establishment in the US (who are a hard neoliberals, not lefties) fielded directly and without a Primary a guy like Biden who is less than in his prime and even supports an ethno-Fascist regime commiting Genocide (and, more importantly, is unwilling to walk back on that support even to improve his odds of winning against Trump, which is what we are being told is the most important thing in the World) all of which is making it far more likely that the Fascists will get power.

There are vast contradictions between what we are being told is the danger of Trump getting elected and the DNC and Biden persistently making choices that increase the chances of Trump getting elected and not walking back on those.

Surelly if “Stop Trump” is the most important thing in the World for them, the Democrat Establishment too would be walking towards the wishes of the electorate not just trying to push the electorate to do all the walking towards the wishes of the Democrat Establishment.

Krauerking ,

Agreed.

We can’t say we must do everything to stop Trump and then shrug and say hold your nose and vote for the guy that’s polling poorly.
That’s not trying everything that’s people in power wanting one outcome that are willing to risk everything they say they don’t want because the scared masses should hopefully fall in line without even a backup plan for it not working.

This isn’t trying and doing everything to stop a fascist dictator taking power this is capitalist conservatives trying to stretch out their win for a little bit longer using what they think is a sure win. This can only ever end poorly even if it’s just another 4 years later from now.

eldavi ,

the democrat establishment is already getting what they want from voters and the system and they won’t get any of the blame should they lose; so they both have no reason to change nor do they have anything to risk by trying something new.

those contradictions you referenced are the centrists version of fox news stoking the culture war, but more vague because they’re trying to appeal both both centrists and leftist; that and project 2025 are the talking points that the moderates are parroting to justify against voting progressively, thus proving martin luther king’s opinion of the the american moderate is true.

umbrella , (edited )
@umbrella@lemmy.ml avatar

and lets not forget what stopped hitler wasnt electoralism. it was the soviets, and they needed force at that point.

PRUSSIA_x86 ,

And the Ukrainians, and the Poles, and the French resistance, and the British, and the Americans, and the Canadians, and…

umbrella , (edited )
@umbrella@lemmy.ml avatar

the soviets were the ones to bear the weight of all the casualties. while your heroes were sipping tea waiting for them to be destroyed by the nazis…

the british, really? americans? yall need to open a history book. ever heard of operation paperclip? or how anticommunist most of these were?

PRUSSIA_x86 ,

Exactly, the country that shared a massive land border with the NAZIs and was a direct target of their aggression suffered many more casualties than the ones what didn’t, who’da thunk it? Without the combined efforts of essentially the entire rest of the world, the USSR would have been toast.

umbrella ,
@umbrella@lemmy.ml avatar

yall need some history. the USSR and germany did not share borders until much later, the west was nowhere to be found by the time they reached berlin.

the us mostly really only helped by the end when victory over nazis was already on the horizon.

PRUSSIA_x86 ,

They didn’t share a border until the Soviets and NAZIs jointly invaded their neighbor Poland.

umbrella ,
@umbrella@lemmy.ml avatar

no such thing as “jointly invaded”

Thief_of_Crows ,

The USSR did most of the work beating the nazis. America helped.

Dave , in Lemmy is the best social media
@Dave@lemmy.nz avatar

Me as an instance admin sitting here reading about how Lemmy doesn’t have trolls and Russian bots, while I’m in a chat with other instance admins and mods where we need to actively coordinate to fight the trolls and Russian bots 😐

awwwyissss ,

Yeah… OP is blind to the massive Kremlin and CCP propaganda problem here in the Fediverse.

AmosBurton_ThatGuy ,
@AmosBurton_ThatGuy@lemmy.ca avatar

After hexbear got defederated from most of the major instances, the fucking losers just make alts on different instances so they can continue defending that propaganda filled shithole. Now .ml seems like the new worst, no matter what you do these no-life losers will find a way to spread their bullshit.

Takes much more effort to try and stop them than it does for these losers to make alts unfortunately.

FiniteBanjo ,

I was under the impression that the .ml admins actually promote them because it’s run by people from Hexbear.

Ilovethebomb ,

It’s a bit more mask on, and there’s a few legit communities there, as opposed to Hexbear where the entire instance has a stated goal.

But it’s pretty bad.

RandomGen1 ,

Ml is run by the creators of Lemmy, and hexbear is well… Not. Hexbear made their own fork of lemmy a long time ago and only in the past year or so have they been actually able to federate at all. I don’t see the creators of Lemmy going through all that effort to hide their identities if they were actually running hexbear behind the scenes

rambling_lunatic ,

Confusing the bear with 'grad

Cowbee , (edited )
@Cowbee@lemmy.ml avatar

Hexbear wasn’t federated to begin with for many instances, and Lemmy.ml hasn’t really changed as a result of Hexbear getting defederated by servers like Lemmy.world and Lemmy.ca, because Hexbear has a more secluded user-base. Hexbear intentionally tries to be careful with who they federate with.

awwwyissss ,

They’re not just some losers sitting on their mom’s basements, they’re paid or programmed to spread disinformation and division.

UnderpantsWeevil ,
@UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

By a con­tin­u­ous shift­ing of rhetor­i­cal focus, the ene­mies are at the same time too strong and too weak.

UnderpantsWeevil ,
@UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

Somewhere in Moscow, there’s a big red phone that connects to its counterpart in Beijing, where Vladimir Putin and Xi Jinping discuss the latest attempts to influence an indie reddit spin-off with an elaborate network of Markov Chain LLMs producing comments like “I wish y’all wouldn’t be so nakedly racist towards people from other countries.”

sunzu ,

Are you denying these operations happen?

UnderpantsWeevil ,
@UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

Am I denying the existence of a branch of international foreign intelligence dedicated specifically to Lemmy.world?

Yes. 100%. Absolutely.

It’s pure paranoia.

ericatty ,

Thank you for your service! (sounds sarcastic, is not)

UndercoverUlrikHD ,

The matrix admin group or a different one?

Dave ,
@Dave@lemmy.nz avatar

The matrix one

TwigletSparkle ,

I’m yet to see any in the last year personally, so I guess it’s working?

Dave ,
@Dave@lemmy.nz avatar

That’s honestly pretty amazing that you’ve been here a year and haven’t seen a troll! Though you’re on an instance with a very active and determined admin, there is definitely a difference in how much you see between instances because of how removals work.

TwigletSparkle ,

picking the right instance seems to be half the battle for users

Ilovethebomb ,

You guys are pretty proactive about blocking and defederating bad faith instances, or even ones not doing enough to deal with bad actors. You were one of the first to defederate Hexbear, and I think you even defederated world at one point?

Cowbee , (edited )
@Cowbee@lemmy.ml avatar

Hexbear defederated blahaj.zone, actually. Here is the original thread going over why.

Ilovethebomb ,

The fuck is a chaser?

Objection ,

A chaser is someone who fetishizes and objectifies trans people.

Cowbee ,
@Cowbee@lemmy.ml avatar

Here’s a good reddit thread over on r/asktransgender.

Chasers are dangerous to the trans community and turn people into fetish objects, rather than recognizing them as people. It ignores the desires of trans individuals who wish to be seen as the gender they identify with and explicitly chases trans individuals for their being trans.

Ie, a transwoman is pursued for being a transwoman and not for being a woman.

Cryophilia ,

Hey that was me back when I had a kbin account. I’m the account in the screenshot.

That was a direct response to someone asking if I would have sex with a trans man. I got accused of being a chaser for saying “sure, I guess, pre-transition” (the first part) and being a transphobe for saying “but I’m not sexually attracted to dicks” (the second part). Note those two accusations are more or less mutually exclusive, but it doesn’t matter because they’re both deeply, incredibly stupid accusations. The mods and admins of blahaj pointed out how incredibly stupid the accusations were, and some people didn’t like being called stupid, so they went back to hexbear. And continued to be stupid.

Cowbee ,
@Cowbee@lemmy.ml avatar

To be clear, being a chaser is transphobic.

Cryophilia ,

Sure, depending on how you define chaser, but it’s not applicable here.

Iapar ,

How is it not transphile?

Cowbee ,
@Cowbee@lemmy.ml avatar

Because chasers undermine the expressed gender identity of trans individuals for the sake of their own sexual pleasure. Calling it “transphilic” is just semantical wordplay that dismisses the inherently predatory nature of chasers.

Iapar ,

I don’t get it.

How is it undermining that and not affirming? I mean to fetishise a group is wrong, I get that and that is also my opinion but if they want to fuck a transwoman they want that because she is a woman which affirms the womanhood?

And the point is how is it transhate if you like the trans aspect specifically. Doesn’t make sense to me.

It is not a wordplay it is what those words mean. Phobic means something like hate or fear and phile means something like love or attraction.

Cowbee ,
@Cowbee@lemmy.ml avatar

No, chasers are people that specifically fetishize transwomen or transmen for being trans.

Iapar ,

Hmm okay. But the I still don’t understand how it is transphobic.

Cowbee ,
@Cowbee@lemmy.ml avatar

You don’t understand how undermining someone’s gender identity by focusing on them being trans over them being their expressed gender is transphobic?

Iapar ,

No.

Edit: as phobic means you want to get away from something or don’t want it to exist. Fetishising is the exact opposite.

If someone is arachnophobic that doesn’t mean he wants to fuck a spider or undermine the identity of the spider. That someone wants the spider be gone because it is a spider.

Cowbee ,
@Cowbee@lemmy.ml avatar

Fetishizing is also phobic.

Iapar ,

This whole exchange could be more productive if you could explain your opinions.

Ilovethebomb ,

They’re arguing that being sexually attracted to something is a phobia, the definition of which is having an irrational fear of something.

Do you really think this person has the ability to string enough words together to justify their opinion?

Cowbee ,
@Cowbee@lemmy.ml avatar

Did you read the original reddit thread? Chasers are dangerous to the trans community. It isn’t about being attracted to trans individuals, it’s about specifically seeking them out for being trans and fetishizing them being trans.

Can you not see how this may look if you are the trans person in this relationship?

Ilovethebomb ,

What do you think the word “phobia” means, just out of interest?

Cowbee ,
@Cowbee@lemmy.ml avatar

I’m not stupid, I know it means “fear of.” Do you think Homophobes are “afraid” of gay people? What abiut transphobes? In the context of bigotry, phobia is used to refer to invalidating or undermining ones sexuality, gender identity, etc.

Literally talk to a trans person, or just read through that thread, it isn’t difficult.

Ilovethebomb ,

Do you think Homophobes are “afraid” of gay people?

Yes.

What abiut transphobes?

Also yes.

In the context of bigotry, phobia is used to refer to invalidating or undermining ones sexuality, gender identity, etc.

That is the outcome of the irrational fear people feel towards those people.

Someone attracted to trans people because they are trans would be transphilic, not transphobic.

Cowbee ,
@Cowbee@lemmy.ml avatar

Talk to trans people about how they feel about lumping anti-trans views into the “transphile” category because rather than being hated outright, chasers simply prey on trans individuals and undermine their gender identity in a sickeningly fetishizing way.

Just touch grass.

Ilovethebomb ,

This is the most bizarre stand I’ve seen someone take online, and that’s really saying something. Phobic means an irrational fear or disgust off something, these people are clearly neither afraid or disgusted of trans people.

Iapar ,

I hoped so.

AVincentInSpace ,

You’re really gonna have to start writing more than one sentence per comment if you want anyone here to know what the fuck you’re on about

Cowbee ,
@Cowbee@lemmy.ml avatar

I wrote a lot more than 1 sentence in the beginning and linked a good thread with a bunch of trans individuals discussing said topic. They aren’t adding anything, just playing semantics with philic vs phobic.

Ilovethebomb ,

www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/phobia

It doesn’t sound like they’re afraid to me?

mathemachristian ,

Do you see why fetishizing black people for their skin coloris racist? Its similar to that.

Iapar ,

I can see that. But that wouldn’t be “negrophobic” either. Not everything negativ in the context of a group is phobia.

Ilovethebomb ,

The poor thing thinks words mean whatever they decide they mean. They’re not capable of explaining their position in an intelligent way, either.

Ilovethebomb ,

Someone upvoted this idiotic take, and whoever it was, I’m disappointed in you.

Ilovethebomb ,

It sounds like the polar opposite to me.

Omniraptor , (edited )

To use an analogy, imagine you’re fat and trying to lose weight. Someone admits they are attracted to you, “sure, as long as you’re still fat”. Can you see how this would not be a good basis for a healthy relationship? You could even say it is a sign of a “chubby chaser”. Likewise for transness.

Also, people are overly sensitive because being denied full/legitimate relationships is a frequent pain point for trans people (esp trans women). The classic trope is the boyfriend who will take you on dates but refuse to introduce you to his friends/relatives.

Omniraptor , (edited )

So yeah, I can see why a queer friendly instance would defederate an instance whose admins promote/defend that sort of rhetoric. Hexbear might have jumped the gun (as I told them at the time- the turnaround time was less than 24 hours and the head admin had no chance to respond) but the blahaj admins weren’t great either

Cryophilia ,

You could even say it is a sign of a “chubby chaser”. Likewise for transness.

Yeah, if you’re deeply stupid. Or, as you suggested, so traumatized by life that you have no understanding of normal human interrepationships. Just because you are open to the idea of having sex with a fat person, that does not make you a chubby chaser. That’s not at all what that means.

In your analogy, the proper response for the fat person would be “that makes me feel bad” and NOT “you are a bad person”. Take some ownership for your feelings. People are allowed to have sexual preferences. That is 100% normal. If it’s triggering for you, then it’s on you to manage your response, not lash out.

Also, people are overly sensitive

Understatement of the year. I think we need to acknowledge that some trans communities can get extremely toxic. Woe unto you if you get caught in their crosshairs for whatever reason. Sure, this may stem from trauma or transphobia/discrimination, but we shouldn’t pretend it’s not a thing.

My pet theory is that trans people are excluded from so many groups that groups of trans people by necessity get very insular. And insular groups tend towards shittiness, almost universally.

Omniraptor , (edited )

It’s not just being attracted, it’s being attracted conditional on the person having x characteristic (that they might not even want to have). That’s the very definition of fetishizing/objectifying and it’s not toxic to criticize it.

I will grant that this is more of an issue for relationships than for hookups etc. As a wise woman once told me- chasers are gross, but they also help pay her rent, so really it’s impossible to say if they’re bad or not.

Cryophilia ,

It’s not just being attracted, it’s being attracted conditional on the person having x characteristic

Wait

So literally every single heterosexual or homosexual person is a “chaser”??

Omniraptor ,

Potentially yes, they can exhibit similar patterns. In fact lots of cishet women have also complained about being objectified because their (potential) dating partner is attracted not to the whole package but to a specific part of them- it’s a classic feminist talking point. The “chaser” label gets added when the person being objectified is marked as deviant in some way. But it’s def not just cishet men who are capable of it.

Cryophilia ,

Wow.

AVincentInSpace , (edited )

Some people like being fat. Some people like being women.

A person who likes bobs and vagene entering a committed relationship with a trans man would be toxic. Ditto for a person who likes fat people entering a committed relationship with someone who is trying to lose weight. That said, firstly, I don’t see anything wrong with a one-night stand in either of those scenarios, which is what the original question was, and secondly, more importantly, you’d have to stretch really hard to say that a person who’s into a little chub and a person who’s perfectly happy having a little chub entering a committed relationship is in any way problematic. OP is into women. If anyone unironically tries to call someone a pussy-chaser I’m going to recommend them for commitment.

OP saying he’d have sex with a trans man who hadn’t transitioned yet is no different than a lover of booty saying they’d have sex with someone who hadn’t lost weight yet. Sure, it might be a little confusing and/or disheartening for his potential sexual partner to be told that he likes them for the one aspect of themselves that they’re working to change, but if it’s only for one night, and that person otherwise has a good support network, and, most importantly, it’s two consenting adults, I don’t see the harm.

Omniraptor ,

Ok I went and looked it up, the original question in the screenshot was about specifically dating and specifically trans men. Not a one night stand, and not someone who likes being a woman

Ilovethebomb ,

Oh, hey Dave. Small world huh?

Dave ,
@Dave@lemmy.nz avatar

👋

Enkrod ,
@Enkrod@feddit.de avatar

Thank you for your service

Archer ,

Welcome to IT. If everything is on fire, they ask why you’re even here, and if everything is ready for the fire and there’s nothing left to do, they also ask why you’re even here

A_Very_Big_Fan ,

I haven’t seen much of it at all in my 1+ year here, so y’all are doing a great job :3

Rolando , in This is a Test

Insufficient information. Need to know the physician’s gang affiliation.

ImplyingImplications ,

Does the patient look like a bitch?

WeirdGoesPro ,
@WeirdGoesPro@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Unconscious and pathetic on a hospital bed? Yeah, kinda. /s

NielsBohron ,
@NielsBohron@lemmy.world avatar

W-w-what?

Bahnd ,

ENGLISH! MOTHERF#$KER, DO YOU SPEAK IT!

[Said Mr. Jackson using his inside voice]

assassinatedbyCIA , in You may want to sit down

And they were roommates

dutchkimble ,

Step* roommates

partial_accumen ,

“roommates”

TheHowTM ,

Oh my god, they were roommates.

NickwithaC ,
@NickwithaC@lemmy.world avatar

I still can’t fathom how that one vine got universally accepted as code for lesbians.

Stache_ ,

TIL

DragonTypeWyvern ,

Well, gay couples that don’t necessarily advertise it, not just lesbians.

SnipingNinja ,

Because it was treated as a reading of historical texts. I haven’t personally looked up if those historical texts are legit but it’s funny to think that historians would disregard lesbian relations by saying they were just friends/roommates

KermitLeFrog ,

It wasn’t just lesbian relationships. Pretty much any gay/lesbian relationship when written about by historians calls them roommates or very close friends or some bullshit like that

SnipingNinja ,

I had only seen it in the context of lesbian relationships till now (multiple times, not just a couple of times), and didn’t want to assume.

Akasazh ,
@Akasazh@feddit.nl avatar

What vine are you taking about?

-someone not universal

NickwithaC ,
@NickwithaC@lemmy.world avatar

youtu.be/S0iM3bkkpbI

That’s it. That’s really all there is. And yet whenever you see posts about women in love there’s always a reference to this one 5 second video. It’s also never in the stories about people’s uncles having a “friend” who lives with them in a one bed flat in the Castro, it’s only ever a wlw thing.

TimewornTraveler ,

it wasnt due to a vine

AA5B ,

Way pre-dated vine

idunnololz ,
@idunnololz@lemmy.world avatar

The best of friends.

RegalPotoo , in RIP in pieces
@RegalPotoo@lemmy.world avatar

Don’t forget that he also didn’t found Tesla

Igloojoe ,

Correct! He sued his way into being called a founder.

I cant say I know what this shithead has contributed to society if anything but a place for toXicity to grow.

nightwatch_admin ,

Apparently the ghost of Elon doesn’t like this, telling from the downvotes

Serinus ,

We don’t have to do this. Not everything is black and white. Tesla would not be where it is today without his intervention. I expect SpaceX wouldn’t either.

He’s also a Nazi enabler and promoter.

A person can do both good and bad.

gila ,

I don’t think it’s about whether what he did with Tesla is good (it is at least debatable whether it is unilaterally good given they are anti-competitive in the EV market). It’s rather about the pretense for the good thing. Elon isn’t driven to help the environment. The sum purpose of Tesla’s operations isn’t environmentalism, else they’d not be selling carbon credits to ICE manufacturers, incentivising them to avoid EV production.

And it’s not even just that “the good” was only to make money, it’s that it’s as a member of the landed gentry he had the opportunity to throw many things at the wall that failed before the Tesla takeover stuck; his ‘intervention’ is simply a VC success story by happenstance.

Taking this at face value, is what he did with Tesla really laudable at all? It is a lucky byproduct of elitism.

brbposting ,

Add “born privileged, into wealth” to Nazi enabler.

You’re right to critique his motivations.

Privileged Nazi enabler & promoter L Musk has accomplished some genuinely impressive achievements in some of the worst ways for the wrong reasons

How’s that?

gila , (edited )

The Nazi enabler part being the bad side, you’re saying we should to reconcile this with the good side. I’m saying the good side is actually just some good shit that happened. Attributing it to Elon would be a mistake because of all of the times he did the same thing with the same intent and it never amounted to anything. For the truly good person, their opportunities to do good things would have been well exhausted before the Tesla opportunity arose. If we’re trying to balance the perception of how good we are it should be a function of the proportion of the things we do that are good vs. bad, not a function of how many things we have the means to try.

brbposting ,

Fair point!

skulblaka ,
@skulblaka@startrek.website avatar

Tesla would not be where it is today without his intervention.

Yeah, I might have actually bought one without his intervention.

toffi ,

I think he contributed to how we see billionaires now. The little money grabbing idiots which contribute nothing to society.

CaptainPedantic , in acceptable screws

Philips screws are awful. They strip if you look at them wrong. Flatheads should only be used on thumbscrews just in case you need a little extra torque from a screwdriver.

Torx and Hex are excellent.

Kolanaki ,
@Kolanaki@yiffit.net avatar

I feel like spanner would be the best for not having shit getting stripped. But that’s just looking at this diagram; never seen them IRL.

Ajen ,

They’re mostly just used for tamper-proof screws for things like bathroom stalls so people can’t take them apart as a “prank” or whatever. The screw driver bits tend to break easily, which is usually worse than the screw stripping.

rockerface ,

Hexagons are the bestagons

weeeeum ,

I work on electronics and woodworking and Phillips are the utter worst of both of them. The thread lock in computers makes them easy to strip when unscrewing. The resistance of driving them into wood makes them guaranteed to strip when screwing. Fuck them.

stealth_cookies ,

The big issue I see with people driving Phillips screws is that they don’t use a large enough driver size. Computer screws for example are Phillips #2 and I’ve never had an issue with them stripping.

weeeeum ,

I use the correct driver, I’ll go through my kit to find the best fitting bit. It simply comes down to the fact they are designed to strip to avoid “catastrophic failure”. Plus the fact that companies use intentionally cheap, soft screws, to make repair and service harder. Cough cough zinc screws on a $10,000 iMac (steel screws would have cost 25 cents for 10, zinc like 5 cents for 10, fucking ridiculous).

evergreen ,

I read that the thing about them being designed to strip to prevent worse failure is just a myth. Or at least they weren’t originally designed to. It said that the original patent never contained any feature for that. Wouldn’t surprise me though if modern companies do use screws designed to strip to prevent disassembly/repair.

HocEnimVeni ,
@HocEnimVeni@lemmy.world avatar

I think originally the screws would cause the driver to cam out and stop driving if a certain amount of force is applied but the screws are so soft and cheap that the harder driver damages the screw head when it cams out.

nickwitha_k ,

This and the centered shape that Philips and Robertson have were key. The lack of a sharp driver bit being able to slip out of the fastener prevented a lot of injuries.

However, Philips, at least, needs to go away.

OsaErisXero ,

I always figured it was intentional but for the other reason: screws soft enough that overtightening can't damage/crack the multi-thousand dollar components, the screw head cores out first.

grue ,

That’s great, but then you can’t get your multi-thousand dollar component unscrewed anyway so what was the point?

frezik ,

It’s also a design flaw that it’s so easy to use the wrong sized driver and it will sorta work. It might be annoying that you have to have a set of different star drive or hex drive bits, but you’re less likely to strip them.

NaoPb ,

Maybe I’m just being lucky but I’ve never experienced screws stripping anymore since I’ve started getting better tools for myself.

And in woodworking it can also help to pre-drill a hole using your smallest drill, before screwing a screw in. This also prevents the wood from cracking. I’ve also seen wood screws that have some lubrication pre-applied.

AdrianTheFrog ,
@AdrianTheFrog@lemmy.world avatar

The problem is, when working with electronics, you can have a great screwdriver but it won’t help if the screws in the device are very cheap (and probably partially stripped already from someone opening it previously).

KuraiWolfGaming ,

I swear I’ve had stuff with stripped screws right from the store.

NaoPb ,

I’ll be honest that I’ve never really experienced problems like that before. I’ve had cheap screws and partially stripped screws. But so far I’ve always been able to open them with the right screwdriver.

But I believe you when you say you did and maybe you have a lot more experience than I do so I’ll respect your opinion.

AdrianTheFrog ,
@AdrianTheFrog@lemmy.world avatar

I haven’t had any completely fail yet, but I’ve seen some come worryingly close. I don’t really have all that much experience, but from what I’ve seen it just doesn’t seem like the most reliable design.

NaoPb ,

PC fan screws come to mind because they are self tapping and a lot of people seem to not use the right screwdriver or don’t yet know the trick of running the screws in and out of the fan one time outside of the case first.

nickwitha_k ,

Could be that it’s not a Philips but a JIS. I didn’t even know that JIS existed until a couple years ago. The shape is close enough to Philips to mostly work but make it super easy to strip.

huginn ,

The image feels like it should be posted in c/unpopularopinions

facelessbs ,

Square is nice too but square/Phillips is a good damn lie. Because the Philips side of it doesn’t work well enough so it is still just a square but with extra slots

sxan ,
@sxan@midwest.social avatar

Torx gang unite.

We had our 20 y/o deck repaired and stained last year. I was chatting with the overseer about what he was going to do and the topic of screws came up; he said he was going to use Torx, and only ever used Torx anymore - I just about cheered.

I’d been losing hope in humanity lately, but little signs of sanity like this, professionals finally getting rid of the hell-bits that are Phillips heads, lifts my heart and gives me hope.

bonn2 ,

I work at a big box hardware store, and I can confirm that almost all deck and structural screws are moving to torx. (much to the older generations dismay)

sxan ,
@sxan@midwest.social avatar

That’s what a worker at my local Ace store said: they were slowly transitioning to Torx.

dankm ,

I’m not sure I’ve ever seen a philips or slotted deck screw. I have and have purchased many boxes of these things and they’ve always been nearly 100% Robertson. Is this a US thing?

sxan ,
@sxan@midwest.social avatar

Yes, and you’re Canadian. Robertson is the standard there, and while it’s used in other countries, not nearly as much.

In the beginning was slotted heads, mainly because mass machining and casting wasn’t good enough to have more precise forms. Then came the Great Connector Wars, and in the US the Phillips head won and was standardized; almost every house built in the US in the past 80 years will be built with these (and nails). Slotted heads are much less common, but you find them in various specific places, like where the heads are visible and you want to hide the screw as much as economically possible.

Canada, however, was smarter and standardized on the Robertson head; IIRC one reason for the divergence was the Phillips licensing cost. In any case, Robertson is superior to Phillips in most ways, except it’s even worse to dig out if it gets painted over.

As machining improved, many attempts were made to improve on Phillips, which mostly amounted to polishing a turd; Robertson remained unchanged as it was already pretty good.

Then came hex, which is great except it’s structurally pretty terrible for the head. Still, it can be seen as an improvement in Robertson, but not quite so good as to be worth all the retooling. Good enough that it’s probably the second, or at least third, most popular head in the US.

Finally, someone did some fucking math and came up with Torx, which is provably and demonstrably superior to all other screw heads. It maximizes force transfer, and leaves more material in the head; it’s harder to strip out, and can be applied effectively to very small screw heads. There’s a security version, which was mostly useless (for intended purpose) the day after it was released, but beyond that, there’s no real improvement that can be made.

The Phillips patents expired decades ago, so it’s holding on mainly from inertia. Commercial contractors don’t have much invested in it, because they have to literally buy boxes of replacement Phillips heads because of how shitty the design is and how often the heads break. While manufacturers have a steady stream of revenue from selling replacement Phillips tools that have broken, this is balanced by the mouth-watering prospect of every contractor in the US buying new Torx size-sets and high-end Torx tools. And the screw makers probably DGAF as they’ll sell screws either way; Torx screws might be a little more expensive - they used to be, but I haven’t compared lately.

Canada may just motor on using Robertson; there’s less incentive for them to retool since Robertson isn’t nearly as crappy as Phillips, so the cost/benefit to upgrade to Torx is less compelling. But who knows?

wjrii ,

These days, all but the cheapest outdoor-grade screws in the US are torx, generally with a bit thrown into the box that, while cheap, should work fine for a few boxes’ worth.

sxan ,
@sxan@midwest.social avatar

Freaking awesome. Better and better. We’ve finally fixed the screw heads, and pretty much also computer connectors (and small device chargers!) with USB-C. Just in time for the end of the world via total ecological collapse.

Great times.

azertyfun ,

I’ve heard that was more of a European thing, but the only two serious contenders are Pozidriv vs Torx for screws (and hex vs Allen for bolts).

I just checked my local hardware store’s website, and out of the 176 kinds of 4/4.5mm screw boxes in their inventory, 74 are Torx, 55 are Pozidriv, and 38 are Phillips (ew).

Either Torx or Pozidriv is fine when used properly, however most DIYers don’t understand the difference between PZ and PH and end up stripping their heads. Also it’s much harder to use the wrong-sized bit with Torx than PZ.

So yeah, Torx wins in just about every category and other heads only get manufactured to appease old people and penny-pinchers.

sxan ,
@sxan@midwest.social avatar

That’s one of my issues with Pozi - it can be hard to see the markings, and not everyone has great eyesight. I mostly object to Phillips-related screws because there are so many variations that mostly look the same and require a table to differentiate. And none have the torque-transfer performance of Torx. Plus, you can use a hex head in a Torx bit in an emergency and you don’t much care about either the bit or the head.

AresUII ,
@AresUII@lemmy.world avatar

The ones with bumps in the middle can go fuck themselves

grue ,

Flatheads should only be used on thumbscrews just in case you need a little extra torque from a screwdriver.

The only other legitimate use I’ve seen for flatheads is on wooden boats, where you’ll be gooping the head up with tar for waterproofing. Since you’ll eventually have to scrape it back off again to get to the fastener, you want a simple geometry that’s easy to clean.

nilloc ,

Square (Robertson) drives are actually great too. Better than Hex/Allen, but Torx is the most reliable, and the most German. Phillips can take a long walk off a short pier.

Lev_Astov ,
@Lev_Astov@lemmy.world avatar

I do wish Robertson heads were more common. They’re almost as tough as torx, but tapered to stick on the tip of the tool, which is so convenient.

gon , in The more they censor, bigger it gets
@gon@lemmy.world avatar

I really appreciate these posts; this way I don’t need to actually go to Reddit to see what it’s looking like.

SniffBark ,

Exactly what I was thinking every time I saw one of these.

dactylotheca , in These AI generated pics are becoming impossible to spot
@dactylotheca@suppo.fi avatar

Ah, good idea putting the fire in the tent, that way the fire will stay warm

werefreeatlast ,

No, that’s fine. It’s the 👍 thumb! Look at it! It’s freakishly small but not ridiculously small.

db2 ,

Or the single Wolverine stick claw.

Hadriscus ,

that’s just a sardine, I think

blackn1ght ,

The hot air is also guaranteed to keep the tent up.

rtxn ,

If you put the whole ass campfire in the tent, it might fly away. Put the fire in the freezer overnight, then thaw it out in chunks when needed.

Alternatively, scrape some glue off your pizza and use it to stick the tent’s bottom to the ground.

blackn1ght ,

Great advice. I’ve sometimes woken up several fields over after the fire has been a bit ferocious. The screams of my family as we’ve flown over people’s houses has also caused some complaints.

morgunkorn OP ,
@morgunkorn@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

I always pack several tablets of dehydrated water with me so if I’m running out, I can just dissolve a couple to have something to drink or cook with

Comment105 ,

It also stores a lot of heat in the walls of the tent, which will keep the air inside from cooling down too much over the course of the night.

x4740N ,

I did not notice that, all I did was look at the image on autopilot

juliebean , in Progress!
Diplomjodler3 ,

But think of all the shareholder value that could be created!

PiratePanPan ,
@PiratePanPan@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Name another tweet that has as many applications besides dril’s entire account and https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/282e7fa5-4a51-412b-b103-80faebb2f4a3.jpeg

rambling_lunatic ,

The orphan-crushing machine tweet

frezik ,

Not only that, but there’s literally a Star Trek episode about this: …wikipedia.org/…/Hard_Time_(Star_Trek:_Deep_Space…

Of course, it’s about torturing O’Brien.

PlainSimpleGarak ,

That’s in my top 5 favorite episodes. The ending is brutal.

bus_factor , in Forbes' kiss of death

The secret ingredient to get on the front page of Forbes is fraud.

AlmightySnoo OP ,
@AlmightySnoo@lemmy.world avatar

In the case of SVB it wasn’t fraud though, it was more poor risk management; they didn’t hedge against an increase in interest rates and that, together with the bank run when people learned about it, killed them. But yeah, the common pattern is failure.

supercriticalcheese ,

Calling using client funds as collateral for risky investments (over and over again) as poor risk management it is a bit of an understatement.

AlmightySnoo OP ,
@AlmightySnoo@lemmy.world avatar

It wasn’t technically illegal nor was it fraud since it had an exemption from the Volcker Rule you’re referring to.

JohnDClay ,

It’s illegal to misrepresent what you are using your clients funds for, as was proved in court.

Edit: wait, I think that was SBF rather than SVB. Why are these acronyms so similar :(

AlmightySnoo OP ,
@AlmightySnoo@lemmy.world avatar

wait, I think that was SBF rather than SVB. Why are these acronyms so similar :(

it doesn’t help that they were both featured on Forbes 😅

psycho_driver ,

All they needed to do was put “Hookers and blow on yachts” in really, really small print somewhere.

mcmoor ,

Damn I also read yours as SBF at first

Chocrates ,

Do banks have the authority to freeze withdrawals?
I don’t get why SVP didn’t just block all withdrawals as the panic set it.

AlmightySnoo OP ,
@AlmightySnoo@lemmy.world avatar

In theory yes:

A bank can temporarily suspend withdrawals to stop a run; this is called suspension of convertibility.

(en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bank_run)

But IMO freezing withdrawals would just add even more panic when the last thing you want as a bank is have more clients be anxious about their money.

moosetwin ,
@moosetwin@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

F IS FOR FRIENDS WHO DO STUFF TOGETHER

PainInTheAES ,

O IS FOR OLIGAAAARCHY

thorbot ,

R is Reprehensible behaaaavior

MrShankles ,

Down here in the deep blue sea! 🎶

neeeeDanke ,

B is for Bribery

alienzx ,

E is for Endless profits from exploitation

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