i seeked lemmy world out, so glad to be here. what finally made me NEED to get away from R****t was the manufactured outrage, clickbait to an incredible degree. people purposely putting up content that reinforces the status quo by encouraging people to get mad about situations that challenge the status quo.
also ridiculously stupid questions, way too many people posting photos of shit and asking “whats wrong here” like come on what the fuck. i’m so sick of it.
Yes fellow humans I am also a human and enjoy human activities such as consuming nutrient rich bread products and performing my nightly ritual of scraping detritus from my molars. There are no bots on Lemmy, Just fellow human(s).
I mean it’s hard not to be when we’re essentially 8 people in a trenchcoat pretending to be social media lol
It has actually made me feel really awkward knowing just how small this place is. I have this tension between not being able to shut the fuck up and also not wanting to be “known” (maybe in the biblical sense though lol)
I kind of like the size to be honest, feels more like I’m having an impact by commenting instead of just getting added to the bottom of a 2000 comment post. I never really commented on the other site for that reason.
Not at all but that’s not the problem. Although grad and communities like them such as r/movingtonorthkoera and r/greenandunpleasent are what is the problem is both .ml and .world are pretty much massive echo chambers. Half the time I’m not quite sure if I’m on Devs instance or world.
Given how the libs here so readily resort to the unfalsifiable, ad hominem conspiracy theory of accusing anyone who disagrees with them of being a Russian bot, it’s wild to think that there are places they see as even more filled with Russian bots.
Lemmy.world is a predominantly liberal instance, not a predominantly Socialist instance. Most people here are liberals and just want to reform Capitalism into a healthier version of itself, rather than change Mode of Production to Socialism.
Did that happen here, or are you projecting that onto others?
As for supporting cooperatives, you’d be a Market Socialist, so not a Communist, but not really liberal either.
As for the question of Reform or Revolution, it’s pretty clear by this point that Reform might as well be impossible. Revolutionary Leftists would certainly love reform if it worked, but you can clearly see what happened to Allende the last time a Marxist won democratically. You can even see last night’s attempted coup in Bolivia against the Social Democrat Arce.
As such, the majority of Socialists are Revolutionary, so you have more fringe views.
Did that happen here, or are you projecting that onto others?
If by “here”, u mean lemmy, then yes. They were hexbear ppl.
As for supporting cooperatives, you’d be a Market Socialist, so not a Communist, but not really liberal either.
Socialism is the transitory state to communism. I believe in the communist utopia and I believe that this cooperative kind of market socialism will lead us there.
As for the question of Reform or Revolution, it’s pretty clear by this point that Reform might as well be impossible.
I would disagree there. I would love to explain why, but I’m really tired right now to type much stuff out. Ik it’s a cop out. I’m sorry.
As such, the majority of Socialists are Revolutionary, so you have more fringe views.
Eh… Most socialists where I’m from have such views. MLs are in fact the rarity in my experience offline.
If by “here”, u mean lemmy, then yes. They were hexbear ppl.
I meant here as in this thread, otherwise your comment wouldn’t make sense in context.
Socialism is the transitory state to communism. I believe in the communist utopia and I believe that this cooperative kind of market socialism will lead us there.
Socialism is only a transitional state towards Communism if you restructute the state entirely to eliminate the tendency for Market Economies to liberalize as competing elements monopolize. Coops are good within Capitalism but certainly aren’t the road to Communism themselves.
I would disagree there. I would love to explain why, but I’m really tired right now to type much stuff out. Ik it’s a cop out. I’m sorry.
That’s fine. If you want to read more, Luxemburg’s Reform or Revolution is a great essay on why the vast majority of Socialists and Communists are revolutionary.
Eh… Most socialists where I’m from have such views. MLs are in fact the rarity in my experience offline.
You likely live in an area with more liberals than Socialists, so the views of Socialists will trend towards those that fit the nicest with Liberalism, or pose the least danger to the status quo historically. That doesn’t make you a liberal, but at a global scale Marxist-Leninists make up the vast majority of leftists.
Additionally, not all revolutionary Socialists are Marxist-Leninists. Anarchists, Ultraleftists, Syndicalists, Council Communists, and many Market Socialists are Revolutionary. Again, reading Luxemburg is a great path to understanding why that is.
I don’t use it that way. There are plenty of people I disagree with who aren’t libs. But in this case I was talking about a specific group of conspiracy theorists who are active on Lemmy who are, general speaking, libs.
“generally speaking” as in “I pulled this stat out of my ass”
Calling you a russian bot isn’t exactly a liberal policy, is it?
If your reasoning for determining someone is “a lib” is saying that, then that’s exactly how you’re using the term.
The fact you immediately assumed I was a capitalist is a pretty compelling argument that you’re not good at determining people’s ideologies based on their unrelated complaints about your bad takes
This may come as a surprise to you, but there are plenty of people who I disagree with who don’t baselessly accuse everyone they disagree with of being Russian bots. There happens to be a shit ton of overlap between liberals and people who subscribe to that particular conspiracy theory.
I called you a supporter of capitalism because you objected to criticism of supporters of capitalism. You can identify how you please, but if you quack, I’m gonna assume you’re a duck. Doesn’t mean I accuse everyone of being ducks.
They’re so predictable it’s a meme at this point. Shame though, good communities and some good people on .ml I have to proceed on a case by case with them
I guess you’re part of the American right? You see… the right in the US has been fed a steady stream of Russian propaganda through their talking heads for a while now. So the right has become indistinguishable from Russian bots. Sorry for the confusion!
“Libs” is short for “liberal,” meaning a supporter of capitalism. Those on the American right who aren’t fascists are generally liberals, though they often don’t know what it means. When I criticize liberals, it’s from a leftist/anti-capitalist perspective.
And in the entire rest of the world outside of the US. See the Liberal Democrats of the UK for example. Or, like, formal/academic discussion even within the US. John Locke was a classical liberal, Ronald Reagan was a neoliberal, etc.
It’s only informally, when the right started using it as a scare word, that people started using it differently, and that was relatively recent considering the history of the word.