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HowManyNimons , to lemmyshitpost in Why do we put up with this crap?

Cheaper innit.

Tja ,

Succinct

SteveFromMySpace , to games in Buy 7 Days to Die at your own risk

I’m not saying the game is worth $45 but I am also struggling to square how someone can have over 1000 hours across two machines in a game and say it’s not worth $45 lol

thallamabond OP ,

I literally bought and played two different games that aren’t this game. And both were better than this. It’s the nature of pre release.

SteveFromMySpace ,

So your reasoning for whether a game is worth the price or not is if there is a better game for the same price?

thallamabond OP ,

I said that dumb.

7 days to die is a different game now than when I bought it.

My main point with this point is $45 is too much.

SteveFromMySpace ,

Ahhhhh ok that’s makes sense haha

CallMeButtLove ,

I think the point OP is making is they’ve easily spent enough time with the game to have credibility on the matter. They easily got more than $45 worth of time out of it, but that doesn’t change the argument that $45 is way too steep a price for the current state of the game.

SteveFromMySpace ,

They clarified it - they’re saying the game isn’t the same game they played anymore. Changed a lot

fern , to youshouldknow in YSK Why You're Facing Renoviction

What is renoviction

NOT_RICK ,
@NOT_RICK@lemmy.world avatar

A “renoviction” refers to a situation where a landlord evicts a tenant because they intend to perform renovations on the rental property or suite.

In many cases, renovictions are entirely appropriate and necessary to maintain the rental property. However, renovictions do not always happen in good faith. For example, it’s not uncommon to see landlords claiming that they intend to renovate a suite to evict a tenant and then relisting the rental without completing renovations to take advantage of the market.

Essentially a bs way to boot a lower rent tenant in favor of the current market rate for tenancy. Market rates are easier than ever to price fix determine now too thanks to sites like realpage.

AFallingAnvil ,
@AFallingAnvil@lemmy.ca avatar

When you get evicted due to no fault of your own because the landlord intends to renovate the property. It’s often done so they can slap in a new carpet, some tiles and a new bathtub and then jack the price up 1200$ and call it a luxury property.

Carighan ,
@Carighan@lemmy.world avatar

Something that is difficult to do over here because the longer a tenant has been in a rented place the more say they get over living there.

Effectively once it’s been 5+ years, you no longer get to evict them. You can ask nicely if they’ll leave, otherwise you’re SOL.

Ledivin ,

Where’s “over here?”

Zikeji ,
@Zikeji@programming.dev avatar

Going by their comment history, Germany.

Carighan ,
@Carighan@lemmy.world avatar

Hamburg in Germany. I think we got even more tenant friendly laws than the other federal states though.

ArbitraryValue ,

That seems like a very good reason not to let any renters stay over five years.

Carighan ,
@Carighan@lemmy.world avatar

It’s scaling. There’s no hard cutoff. The longer a renter has been in, the more difficult to cancel their contact. The idea is that the longer someone has lived there, the more their life will have become reliant on being in that area, and hence uprooting them is less and less sensible.

GBU_28 ,

Ive never seen this within a lease term, only at the end of one, where the landlord says they won’t be continuing.

Crazy if people are actually getting tossed out with just short notice over this.

Rai ,

Ahhhh I almost faced this once. Was renting from a landlord who wanted to change the disgusting unfinished basement into two more bedrooms. He asked us to try to find a new place (during COVID) so he could do this.

I told him that we cannot find a place easily as we have a bunch of cats and it’s COVID, and he asked if we were okay with him making the bedrooms while we’re here and once they’re done, we’d have to pay 20% more for rent.

We had been there for five years and our rent was never raised… so we were elated to agree. Double the amount of bedrooms for 20% more rent money and we don’t have to move? Uhhh yes please. After the increase, we were at like 75% of the rent price compared to other 4br 1ba rentals in our area.

I’m also just happy he didn’t kick us out. The basement bedrooms turned out nicer than the first two we had.

themeatbridge , to lemmyshitpost in Good point

Remember that Beyonce song about the guy who cheated on her, but it’s cool because she wasn’t that into him and the other guy she’s been seeing is on his way over to replace him?

Sometimes everybody sucks at being in a relationship.

ByteOnBikes ,

I really hope songs like this die out.

Kinda like how millennials killed Boomer Humor and the “I hate my wife” jokes, GenZ should kill songs about being a POS.

themeatbridge , (edited )

Shaggy with his “It Wasn’t Me” bullshit always rubbed me the wrong way. “My girl caught me fucking another woman.” Gaslight that bitch. “She was staring at me balls-deep in our neighbor on the floor of our bathroom.” Gaslight that bitch. “No, really, she was standing there watching us both, buck-ass naked. She never took her eyes off me. She knows what I look like. She knows our neighbor lady. I can’t believe I forgot that she has a key to my place, and she just walked in on us mid-coitus in the shower. I’m telling you, she’s not a fucking moron.” Gaslight that bitch.

PhlubbaDubba , (edited ) to lemmyshitpost in Oh jeez

I think the only country that’s legit happened to was Iraq,

Usually it’s more about how traumatized the POWs captured by your country’s soldiers were. Unbroken being the major cinematic example, and all the stories about Senator McCain refusing early release and being tortured for it and the guy who blinked reports of torture out in morse code while reading a hostage statement in Vietnam being the more “stuff of legends” examples.

American Sniper is the only one I’ve seen where it’s about how some soldier who didn’t experience anything above the typical background humm of war felt about the whole thing.

Probably because being a US military troop is the least dangerous it’s ever been, so the major condition most troops will face isn’t death or permanent injury, but instead PTSD from having faced combat or Survivor’s guilt from having been suddenly shifted off the rare doomed mission or patrol that still claims casualties at the last second.

Most enlisted troops are just career workers in camo with a REALLY rigorous on the job fitness program. There’s a reason the US is everyone’s intel and logistics repository, and it’s because for every dollar spent on actually fighting, ten get spent on building up so much intelligence that the deck is as stacked as it can be before the cards even come out of the box to be dealt.

Edit: get not grt

Lost_My_Mind ,

ten grt

Is this “ten are”, and a really bad typo? Or is grt some form of currency abbriviation I don’t get?

PhlubbaDubba ,

Ten get

atro_city ,

I think the only country that's legit happened to was Iraq,

Vietnam?

Transporter_Room_3 ,
@Transporter_Room_3@startrek.website avatar

How do you forget Vietnam

UnderpantsWeevil ,
@UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

I asked myself the same question in March of 2003

ASeriesOfPoorChoices ,

Drugs and alcohol, and lots of them.

PhlubbaDubba ,

Vietnam movies were usually either about POW experiences or about the absolute pointlessness of it all, which doesn’t really line up with “bombing your country and then making movies about how sad it made them”

I have literally never seen a depiction of Vietnam that was positive or shy of direct condemnation of how terrible it all was.

Seriously, even Forrest Gump’s innocent portrayal of it still managed to underline in bold that it was all pointless, needless, and cruel beyond reason.

turmacar ,

I have literally never seen a depiction of Vietnam that was positive or shy of direct condemnation of how terrible it all was.

Seriously, even Forrest Gump’s innocent portrayal of it still managed to underline in bold that it was all pointless, needless, and cruel beyond reason.

Not sure what about any of that doesn’t line up with “sad”. None of those adjectives border on happy or nonchalant.

PhlubbaDubba ,

Because that’s not “made the soldiers sad” it’s “this entire thing was awful and a fucking crime.”

You’re trying to insist that media that would agree that it was a bad thing is exploitation media because…it agrees with you?

It honestly seems like you’re just trying to argue because you don’t like someone pointing out that the meme isn’t fully accurate to what war media actually looks like historically and even today to some extent.

daltotron ,

No, I think the main point in contention is mostly just that the experience of the American GIs are always centered in these tellings of the stories to american audiences, and obviously that’s going to whitewash a lot of the history and context of a conflict and just transform it into “I got stationed in a random place I hated for a couple years and then I had to kill a bunch of people for reasons I didn’t understand while they tried to kill all my friends and then I got back home and got jack shit for it”. And then on top of that, those movies are going to be a lot about the psychological trauma that’s inflicting on those particular american GIs, and often, again, without a broader context of what system they’re placed into, it’s just sort of like, turned into sanitized hollywood melodrama, much like how they’ll sanitize any historical fiction into being oscar bait.

Obviously that’s not gonna really be the same experience as, say, some random guerilla fighter somewhere, or some random person who just lives in one of these places. About the only movies I can think of that actually attempted to expand on that particular perspective was good morning vietnam, where that’s touched on, but not explored, and maybe the breadwinner, which is a pretty good movie but also more just adjacent to what I’m talking about rather than directly in dialogue with it. I might be wrong on that one though, it’s been a while since I’ve seen it even though that movie is fucking good and you should watch it.

That’s my recommendation. Go watch “the breadwinner”.

UnderpantsWeevil ,
@UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

I think the only country that’s legit happened to was Iraq,

MAS*H (Korea)

Jarhead (Iraq, but the first time)

Lone Survivor (Afghanistan)

The Men Who Stare at Goats (Guantanamo Bay Torture Facility in Cuba)

Letters from Iwo Jima (Pacific Theater - WW2)

Saving Private Ryan (European Theater - WW2)

Heartbreak Ridge (Grenada)

The Good Shepherd (Bay of Pigs Invasion, Cuba)

Full Metal Jacket (Vietnam)

Rambo (Vietnam)

Apocalypse Now (Vietnam)

We Were Soldiers (Vietnam)

Good Morning, Vietnam (Vietnam)

wizardbeard ,

Yes, because fucking Rambo of all movies is about how bad american soldiers felt about what they did.

Thanks for the laugh

theangryseal ,

Rambo is just dood in ban danna shooting musheen gun and holding big nife.

I’m just being a dick. I haven’t seen it since I was around 7 so that’s all it was for me haha.

lath ,

It’s actually about how shitty US vets are treated by the US. But the pew-pew takes lead in the eyes of most viewers, yes.

wizardbeard ,

Yes, because fucking Rambo of all movies is about how bad american soldiers felt about what they did.

Thanks for the laugh

mlg ,
@mlg@lemmy.world avatar
Blackmist ,

It’s funny, but it’s not true.

It’s something like “the gallant people of Afghanistan” and always was.

random_character_a ,
@random_character_a@lemmy.world avatar

It was on TV month ago and that screencap is how it read. I remembered because I commented my son about it.

Regional differences?

Blackmist ,

Possibly.

The English language version is here at 2:30

m.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9pV1JrRI4w

It’s not out of the question because Afghanistan were on our side back then, and by on our side, I mean America gave them weapons to fight the Russians, and then abandoned them immediately the second Russia gave up.

It’s just I’ve never seen any real evidence of it… It’s always just that one still which seems to be from a second or so before the real one.

booly ,

The first Rambo was definitely about PTSD and how the act of killing fucks up American soldiers.

turmacar ,

I think you’re confusing Rambo First Blood, which is about how fucked up he was after coming back from Vietnam, with the Rambo sequels, which are about how cool it is to blow stuff up.

SRo ,

Yes, it is, have you ever seen the movie? What a dumb comment.

sartalon ,

I don’t think you’ve seen some of these movies if you think it has anything to do with how sad it made them.

FordBeeblebrox ,

MASH is about saving war casualties and they make light of it all the while

Saving Priyate Ryan is a WW2 movie that happens whether or not Matt Damon is involved

Jarhead is an accurate portrayal of the Suck

Not sure what point OP is trying to make here

FordBeeblebrox ,

Just to pick one, Jarhead is not repeat not a war film. It’s about the Suck and sometimes you train for training sake

hungryphrog ,

I don’t know about the others, but MAS*H seems to be heavily anti-war. Hawkeye obviously has deep contempt for the war and generals, and the more pro-war characters are decipted as insufferable pieces of shit.

FordBeeblebrox ,

As others have said there’s a bunch more, but the one that really grinds my gears is The Covenant

We really spent 20 years telling these terps they and their families would be safe, then just fucking left and made a MOVIE about that shitty bullshit underhanded move?

Put every single goddamn joint chief in front of congress and ask why this is a fictional tale

PhlubbaDubba ,

Honestly what gets me about evac failures and abandonments is the Berlin Airlift.

We had the logistics to mount a months long rescue operation that could get everyone fleeing out decades before these rushed withdrawals.

Everyone in Saigon and Kabul could have been gotten out, fuck we could have mounted a rolling evac bringing collaborators behind lines and transporting them in a trickle so that the last folks out are in a relatively empty air schedule. Expanding and contracting sphere, keep everyone who’s in it willingly behind the line so long as they willingly continue to move with it.

FordBeeblebrox ,

We go in get the resource then leave. Werner van Braun got a first class ticket to the US

Soldiers in the sandbox were playing COD on Xboxes in the hooch before going out to a real life version where people lived in bombed out huts, then promising if you work with us you’ll get a better life in America

The US military has many faults but logistics is not one. Every single terp and their cousin could be living in Milwaukee right now…but we fucking chose not to.

Pushing functional birds off a carrier deck to make room for people is the definition of Churchill’s quote. Americans will do the right thing after exhausting every other option.

Donebrach ,
@Donebrach@lemmy.world avatar

This presupposes that every single person working to make change in their home is willing to just up and leave at a moments notice (or years in advance, which kind of undermines the entire motive to want to effect change, again in their home)

PhlubbaDubba ,

I’d imagine all but the densest motherfuckers on the face of the earth would see that the force standing between them and summary execution at best is calling the retreat and realize the value of being alive somewhere else vs dying on the patch of dirt you happened to feel the most attached to at that moment.

umbrella ,
@umbrella@lemmy.ml avatar

the only country that’s legit happened to was Iraq

😂😂😂😂😂

Norgur , to lemmyshitpost in LOCK EM UP
@Norgur@fedia.io avatar

If Donald is immune, isn't Kamala immune if she orders the FBI to throw him in the brig if (please, don't fuck this up! VOTE!) she becomes president?

bjoern_tantau ,
@bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de avatar

Wouldn’t she already have those powers now as vice president?

Norgur ,
@Norgur@fedia.io avatar

We'd have to ask the Supreme Court if that's the case and the way those "super neutral judges" act... maybe we wait until after the election for that one.

nightwatch_admin ,

Why not let the current president do it? He is still in office.

folekaule ,

And better yet, he’s not running for re-election.

nightwatch_admin ,

Exactly, going out with a


<span style="color:#323232;">* B O O M *  
</span>

and no one can lay a finger on him.

snooggums ,
@snooggums@midwest.social avatar

Pretty sure SCOTUS carved out the exception for only the president based on their bullshit logic that the president needs to act without waiting a few seconds to consult the president’s army of lawyers waiting on standby 24 hours a day.

mkwt ,

Specifically several sitting justices have previous white house administration experience where they had to worry about consulting their lawyers because of the illegal stuff they were doing (like Iran Contra).

Ilovethebomb ,

Just sit down in the corner for a minute, and think of how trump’s supporters would react if someone actually stole the election like that.

There’d be a civil war.

Duamerthrax ,

They’re already demanding civil war if he loses fairly.

Ilovethebomb ,

Yeah, that’s my point. He lost fair and square, and they refused to believe it and staged an insurrection. If you actually did pull something like that, out in the open, there would be a second civil war.

zbyte64 ,

Biden could do it after the votes are cast, but to what end? We really need a functioning justice system …

schnurrito , to programmerhumor in crowdStrikeIsAVerbNow

funny thing is I, and probably most people, had never even heard that there was something called “CrowdStrike” until Friday of last week

IndiBrony ,
@IndiBrony@lemmy.world avatar

I’m a Formula One fan. The Mercedes team are sponsored by them. You see their logo every time you see an on board shot of the cars.

I had no idea until this weekend.

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/ca0b1675-271e-4137-9ce8-1c4a20c3bc9d.jpeg

5redie8 ,

Over/Under on the amount of time before that logo gets removed?

gravitas_deficiency ,

End of season, at least, or whenever the livery/sponsorship contract runs out. Mercedes isn’t liable to care too much - it’s just a livery.

Sleepkever ,

Well you say that but their pit wall on Friday said otherwise Mercedes F1 pit wall with blue screens of death

IndiBrony ,
@IndiBrony@lemmy.world avatar

I dunno how blind I have to be to miss this for all this time, but the air vents they have on the pit wall are the same air vents you get on a Mercedes-Benz.

It makes perfect sense, but it’s rather amusing 😂

PrettyFlyForAFatGuy ,

I knew of falcond as the service that makes my work mac run slow.

Unfortunately, having a mac meant i didn’t get friday off unlike most of the rest of the company

tourist ,
@tourist@lemmy.world avatar

Same for me with Solar Winds, Equifax, SVB and Ashley Madison.

Weird to think that some kind of major catastrophe in the future could again be caused by some company that exists right now, but am unaware of.

CosmicTurtle0 ,

Are you not in the US? Equifax is a credit bureau and if you’ve never heard of them, you never needed credit or you’re not from the US.

The other three, I’ve only heard of Ashley Madison because they had a very aggressive ad campaign before ad blockers became ubiquitous. One could say it was ads like theirs that made ad blocking a requirement.

tourist ,
@tourist@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah, I’m not in the US. The first time I heard about them was when they shit the bed.

Hazzia ,

Something I heard about recently is that it’s unnervingly common for the stock prices of unknown but really important companies like these to shoot up following an outage because it reveals to stock investors how mich of a monopoly it has in an area.

sdcSpade ,

When I heard “CrowdStrike” took down operating systems everywhere, I thought it was the name of a virus or a group of hackers. I’m not the only one hearing an inherent villainy in that name, right?

expr ,

Oh, if you worked at a company that uses them (which is a lot of companies), you’d definitely be familiar with them as they hog up a ton of fucking CPU/disk. I basically had an entire CPU core dedicated to running their bullshit.

TropicalDingdong , to linuxmemes in Your Southwest flight arrived on time.

Does any one here, working in IT, have a sense for how “on-going” this issue is expected to be? Is this something that is largely going to be resolved in a day or two, or is this going to take weeks/ months?

Entropywins ,

It will take however long it takes to implement the fix in person or implement a disaster recovery plan. Couple hours, days maybe weeks depending on the size of organization. Thankfully my work doesn’t use crowdstrike but the main fix I’ve heard requires in person boot in safe mode, delete file and reboot to every effected machine, not difficult just time consuming if you have thousands of endpoints that need to be fixed.

db2 ,

It’s entirely dependent on the organization. The actual time it takes to deploy the fix is the same amount it takes to open 4 nested directories and delete one file and reboot, but things like bitlocker and other annoying system policies can get in the way dragging a 5 minute solution out to a multi-day debacle.

MNByChoice ,

My guess as a Linux admin in IT.

I understand the fix takes ~5 minutes per system, must be done in person, and cannot be farmed out to users.

There are likely conversations about alternatives or mitigations to/for crowdstrike.

Most things were likely fixed yesterday. (Depending on staffing levels.) Complications could go on for a week. Fallout of various sorts for a month.

Lawsuits, disaster planning, cyberattacks (targeting crowdstrike companies and those that hastily stopped using it) will go on for months and years.

The next crowdstrike mistake could happen at any time…

qjkxbmwvz ,

The next crowdstrike mistake could happen at any time…

Sounds like the tagline to an action movie.

MNByChoice ,

I would watch it.

dumbass ,
@dumbass@leminal.space avatar

You’ll be living it soon.

Agent641 ,

When will crowd strike next?

MadMadBunny ,

Coming in a computer near you: Crowdstrikenado!

Ok_imagination ,

Fully agree as a security engineer with a mostly Microsoft shop. We have some pending laptop fixes, but I think we’ve talked our cio out of hastily pulling out of CrowdStrike. Really, it didn’t hit us hard. Maybe down for 2-3 hours around 4 am Friday morning. Microsoft gives us many more issues more frequently and we don’t have constant talk of pulling it out…

boredsquirrel ,
@boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net avatar

Microsoft gives us many more issues more frequently and we don’t have constant talk of pulling it out…

Maybe you should ;)

As a Linux user I deal with Windows issues way too often administering other laptops.

Ok_imagination ,

God, I wish!

rockSlayer ,

The issue was a very simple programming mistake, which is why it was simple to get a patch out quickly. The reason it caused chaos is due to the fact that the software operates at an extremely high level of privilege, enough where even something small can disrupt the entire operating system

Estebiu ,
@Estebiu@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

My guess as an on-field technician is that this is going to take at least a week to resolve. As you probably know, it’s an easy fix; the difficult part is going to every single store to actually do the procedure. Today I worked on 30-35 PCs, and most of my time was spent going from location to location. There’s the tour de France so it’s very time consuming. Anyway, yeah, at least a week.

TexasDrunk ,

MSPs are about to get a shit load of work for the next week just to get more boots on the ground.

taiyang ,

My dad was able to get his computers in city hall working by just deleting a file, but it is indeed a process. 6 steps, although the specifics elude me. You do have to do it in person though, requires repair mode or whatever.

Funny thing though, they just got a new tech lead that very same day, his first day was this fiasco. Imagine that luck!

adhdplantdev ,

It’s going to be a grind. This is causing blue screen of death on Windows machines which can only be rectified if you have physical/console access.

In the cloud space if this is happening to you I think you’re screwed. I mean theoretically there’s a way to do it by installing Windows unmounting the disc from the virtual machine to another working virtual machine but it’s a freaking bear.

Basically everyone’s going to have to grind this whole thing out to fix this problem. There’s not going to be an easy way to use automation unless they have a way to destroy and recreate all their computers.

I live in linuxland and it’s been really fun watching this from the side. I really feel for this admins having to deal with this right now because it’s going to just suck.

Morphit ,
@Morphit@feddit.uk avatar

I’d have thought the cloud side would be pretty easy to script over. Presumably the images aren’t encrypted from the host filesystem so just ensure each VM is off, mount its image, delete the offending files, unmount the image and start the VM back up. Check it works for a few test machines then let it rip on the whole fleet.

adhdplantdev ,

Oh my friend. You think these companies do things in a logical scalable way? I have some really bad news…

Theoretically that could work but sometimes security measures require computers be BitLocker encrypted and certain softwares could make this difficult to achieve like fixing a domain controller.

AlecSadler ,

At my org the security is so heavy that it’s a multi-step, multi-tier fix (meaning the one Helpdesk person has to escalate, the first tier that gets it has one password but not the other, that has to go to second tier, etc.)

They announced weekend hours all weekend on Friday and given we’re talking tens of thousands of potentially impacted systems, my guess is it absolutely won’t be done by Monday. That doesn’t necessarily mean business is dead in the water, but it’s definitely more chaotic and slow moving.

MonkderDritte ,

At my org the security is so heavy

Yet you allow some rando software with evelated privileges to run their own updates?

MossyFeathers , to lemmyshitpost in Goober
pantyhosewimp , to funny in Problem solved!

I’m impressed by how he had to construct the back half of that guy.

The_Picard_Maneuver OP ,
@The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world avatar

I was looking at the pattern on the ground for any signs of editing too. Dude’s a pro.

hswolf ,
@hswolf@lemmy.world avatar

me too, the only one I noticed was the lamp and wall decoration behind her head, it’s almost imperceptible, but its a so very slightly tilted mirrored version of the right side lamp/decoration

The_Picard_Maneuver OP ,
@The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world avatar

Wow, nice catch

ciapatri ,

Also the floor design behind her calf should have a white knot (?) to match the others in the pattern, but it is missing.

zaph ,

There’s a decent chance he went there and took a pic in the same spot. He’s done it before

Klear ,

In that case I’m even more impressed that guy stayed there the whole time.

Imgonnatrythis ,

Happens when you eat too much pasta

Defectus ,

Or just a reverse job fake post

TheRaven , to lemmyshitpost in President 360 No Scope...
@TheRaven@lemmy.ca avatar

Congrats everyone, we got the Purge, but remember this is America where hoarding happens. Everyone doesn’t get one day, one person gets 4 years.

Squirrel , (edited ) to memes in Average US presidential debate
@Squirrel@thelemmy.club avatar

Obnoxious, lying, seditious, narcissistic, rotting corpse vs. tired, confused, rotting corpse.

Hoomod ,

You forgot felon and rapist for the first one

Squirrel ,
@Squirrel@thelemmy.club avatar

Ah, so I did. Not sure how I managed that, considering how relevant those points should be here.

Asafum , to lemmyshitpost in To all you outside of the US...

We’re so fucked it’s absolutely insane.

I thought Trump had a chance before, but now… My god Biden embarrassed the shit out of himself… Fuck the goddamn DNC for condemning us by REFUSING to have primaries… Yeah it’s the tradition because usually the incumbent has a chance, but 90472828 year old Biden? Ffs…

Yes Trump is old too but it was plain as day how much more lucid trump is than biden…

Soulg ,

I see so many people screaming that primaries should have been held, especially today.

Biden would have easily won the primaries.

AngryCommieKender ,

The only reason I agree with this is that I was still living in the Midwest during the 2016 primary. I moved to California during August of that year. Time after time, I got told by Midwestern democrats that Bernie just wasn’t electable / was too progressive. The coasts would have primaried Biden, but flyover country would have messed it up.

dodgy_bagel ,
AngryCommieKender ,

Iowa, North Dakota, New York, and Massachusetts are the only ones that really surprise me in that grouping.

Asafum ,

NY isn’t that keen on progressive politics outside NYC. Long Island is an extremely populated part of NY and it’s basically Trumpland and “moderates” out here, more Trump the more east you go. “Greater” NY is also pretty red aside from the larger cities. It doesn’t really surprise me that much unfortunately :(

PythagreousTitties , (edited )

He did win the primary in states that had them. There’s no if about it. Unfortunately.

skulblaka ,
@skulblaka@sh.itjust.works avatar

He was the only option on my primary lmao

PythagreousTitties ,

The problem with Biden is they gave it to him because “he deserved it”. Life long politician. Vice president. That’s the only real reason the DNC handed the keys to him. It’s a fucking job promotion.

The next election cycle is going to be interesting.

ricecake ,

Does it really count as “lucid” if you enunciate your lies, fabrications, misrecollections about… everything?

Revonult ,

For his voters, his lies and fabrications are the truth. They don’t listen to fact checking because they are conditioned to see it as fake and a goverment ploy to fool them.

ricecake ,

True. But they were going to have the same criticism of Biden regardless.

It’s part of the reason I didn’t even watch. Looking over the polling, the debate didn’t really change anyone’s opinions on anything to any significant degree.

Asafum ,

I don’t think it has been long enough to have gathered enough data on that. Just watching it myself I could clearly see a low information voter seeing Trump as a more fit choice as Biden struggled to even form sentences :(

ricecake ,

They did a lot of the pre-selection of people beforehand. The headline most places are running with is “flash poll says trump won”, but if you actually read the conclusions, it’s that “flash poll says trump won, more Republicans watched the debate by about a ten percent margin, and no one changed their opinions about fitness for office or who they’re voting for”.

Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In ,

No-one is going to switch sides, but this performance may affect turnout.

CancerMancer ,

What the polling likely isn’t capturing is how many people will ultimately choose not to vote out of despair, and that was the real threat the whole time.

ricecake ,

Oh, definitely. Not just possible, they weren’t even looking for that. They were entirely looking for what the debate did to preferences and opinions directly about the candidates.

I mostly brought it out as an example of the headline not capturing the whole message of how it impacted voters. Or didn’t impact, rather.

Asafum ,

It was a goddamn travesty that there was no fact checking by the button pushers moderators.

Everything was allowed to stand as fact. It was disgusting :(

Mossheart ,

Loud and lying every second word != lucid.

samus12345 ,
@samus12345@lemmy.world avatar

No. He was not lucid, just loud.

pancakes ,
@pancakes@sh.itjust.works avatar

This might be a hot take but any leadership selection where candidates are ranked in terms of how lucid they are is a bad time for all involved.

bizzinho ,

Being lucid is supposed to be a minimum requirement to even apply. But here we are.

cumskin_genocide ,

I need to shake the hands of potential presidents before I can make any judgements on who to vote for.

Edge004 ,

Hank?

cumskin_genocide ,

Yessir, I sell propane and propane accessories. Ronald Reagan was the best president we ever had.

samus12345 ,
@samus12345@lemmy.world avatar
brucethemoose ,

Yeah, I mean we’re like lobsters being slow boiled.

This whole situation is mad, but it feels plausible because it’s been ratcheted up so gradually.

Can you imagine the country’s reaction if they say this 2 decades ago?

Mzpip ,

Yes Trump is old too but it was plain as day how much more lucid trump is than biden…

And also an unrepentant crook and liar. Who also dreams of being a dictator and getting revenge on his “enemies”.

Asafum ,

Preaching to the choir, but I’m worried about the ignorant people that simply don’t know that about him. All they see is an old bumbling feeble man vs a “strong man.” :(

Mzpip ,

And unfortunately, the media is not informing people. I can’t believe there was no question last night about Project 2025. Just unbelievable.

Plus no fact checkers. Again, unbelievable.

recapitated ,

For sure. It’s a shame that being correct isn’t the strategy for electoral politics.

p5yk0t1km1r4ge ,
@p5yk0t1km1r4ge@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah, this is not looking good, and I’m not impressed

TootSweet , to mildlyinteresting in A fence that casts piano key shadows
  • C
  • C#
  • D
  • D#
  • E
  • E𝄲
  • F
  • F#
  • G
  • G#
  • A
  • A#
  • B
  • B𝄲
  • C
  • C#
  • D
  • Mystery note
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pancakes ,
@pancakes@sh.itjust.works avatar

Amazing that you can tell. They all look the same to me.

LesserAbe ,

Lol their joke is that the layout doesn’t actually match a piano. Normally there are seven white keys and five black keys. So E# isn’t a thing, that’s just F. And B# isn’t a thing, that’s C.

Stovetop ,

Makes me wonder why they even bothered to have 7 different notes instead of 6, with B# and E# as valid notation.

TempermentalAnomaly ,

First, you don’t have to, it’s a useful convention.
Since the middle ages, the west has used a seven note scale with five whole steps and two half steps. This gives one scale, c major, with seven natural (neither flat nor sharp) notes.

As an aside, I believe there are six note scales.

chiliedogg ,

There are 12 notes in most Western music. When you double a frequency you go up an octave, but keep the same note.

Music is played in different “keys” though with 7-note scales, with letters assigned A-G. If you play the notes in order starting and ending at the letter for which the scale is named, then do the same for a different scale, the relationship between the notes will sound the same between the 2 scales, but your starting and ending pitch will be different.

Piano keys are arranged with all 12 notes being available, but arranged in the key of C-major or A-minor, where all notes are natural notes (no sharps or flats).

If you play just the white keys starting from C, you’ll be playing a C-major scale : C, D, E, F, G, A, and B. However, to play the F-major scale, you’re going to need to skip one white key and hit a black key: (F, G, A, Bb, C, D, and E). No letter repeats on a scale.

A sharp (#) or flat (b) note is just moving the smallest step you can to the right or left, respectively. For most notes, that’s moving to a black key, but there’s no black key between B and C or E and F sometimes it’s moving to another white key.

Why don’t we just ignore weird notes like Cb? Because every letter needs to be represented on a scale. Ab-minor, for instance has Ab, Bb, Cb, Db, Eb, Fb, and Gb. So even though Cb is the same frequency as B-natural, it serves the same role in the scale as E does in the key of C, and if you didn’t represent it as a flat note, your scale would have 2 "B"s and no “C.”

This gets even more important when you get into different instruments with different natural keys. A Piano, flute, bassoon, and other instruments are what we call “Concert C” instruments, which means they have the same natural key of C. However, other instruments are different.

A standard clarinet is a Bb instrument, meaning its Bb scale matches the C scale of a piano. You also have Eb-clarinets that are a little smaller, meaning that if they play a “C” they’ll be playing a concert Eb, which uses the same fingerings as a Concert Bb from a standard clarinet.

So when an Orchestra is playing something in the key of A-major (A, B, C#, D, E, F#, G#), an Eb-clarinet is playing in F#-major (F#, G#, A#, B, C#, D#, E#).

MeThisGuy ,

wow. I just learned more in 5 mins than in years of music lessons. thx

MadBob ,

It’s astonishingly obvious once it’s pointed out:

https://feddit.nl/pictrs/image/50740f37-e278-4bea-9530-d369b7b47f36.jpeg

There’s no B#/Cb and no E#/Fb, so the groups of two black notes are between C and E, and the groups of three are between F and B.

NorthWestWind ,
@NorthWestWind@lemmy.world avatar

Blue note support!

funkless_eck ,

Jacob Collier ahh piano

Meltrax , to memes in Hey there both good

“There” is a location. “They’re” is a contraction of “they are”.

SquirtleHermit ,

Their not worried about it

FartsWithAnAccent ,
@FartsWithAnAccent@fedia.io avatar

Yore wrong

samus12345 ,
@samus12345@lemmy.world avatar

*your

Lucidlethargy ,

I think it’s just a matter of they’re priorities.

Sorse ,
@Sorse@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

Maybe it’s a greeting?

Hey there! both good

abfarid , (edited )
@abfarid@startrek.website avatar

On Reddit I always assumed that so many people can’t be that stupid uneducated and make these obvious mistakes for engagement bait.
But now that we are on Lemmy, and engagement gets you nowhere, I’m losing faith in humanity at a faster pace.

Lizardking27 ,

Maybe english is their second language. (Copium)

abfarid , (edited )
@abfarid@startrek.website avatar

In my experience, these mistakes are made primarily by native speakers. Because they learned it by hearing and can’t tell the difference. Those who learned English as a second language learn through books and are explicitly taught the difference.

sparkle , (edited )

You would HATE being a person who could read in the Middle English era. There was no standardized spelling, people used many different conventions/regional spellings, and it was mostly either phonetic spelling or random French bullshit. Also some earlier writers used really conservative spelling to emulate Old English. It was the wild west out there.

For example, here’s a (not comprensive) list of the variant spellings you may see for each second person pronoun:

Singular Nominative 2P:

thou, thoue, thow, thowe, thu, thue, þeu, þeou, thouȝ, thugh, thogh, ðhu; þou, þoue, þow, þowe, þu, þue, þouȝ, þugh, þogh, þo

(after alveolars and in contractions): tou, towe, touȝ, tu, to, te

Singular Objective 2P:

the, thee, thei, thi, thie, thy, ðe, de, þeo, þhe, yhe, ye, þe, þee, þi, þy

(after alveolars and in contractions): te

Singular Genitive, Dative, and Possessive 2P:

(usually before consonants): thi, thy, thei, they, yhi, yi, þhi; þei, þey, þy

(usually before vowels and “h”): thin, thyn, thine, thyne, thien, thyen, thein, theyn, thinne, yin; þin, þyn, þine, þyne, þinne; þines

(female referent): þinre, þire, þinen

(after “t” or “d”): ti, ty, tin, tyn, tine, tines

Plural Nominative 2P:

ye, yee, yeȝ, yhe, yie, iye, iȝe, hye, hie; ȝe, ȝee, ȝhe, ȝie, ȝeo; ge, gie, geo

Plural Objective 2P:

you, yow, youe, yowe, yo, yoe, yogh, yau, yaw, yeu, yew, yhu, yu, yw, yhow, yhou; ȝou, ȝow, ȝouȝ, ȝowȝ, ȝowe, ȝo, ȝu, ȝw, ȝuw, ȝue, ȝiou, ȝeu, ȝew, ȝewe, ȝau, ȝaw, ȝhou, ȝiu, ȝeou, ȝehw, ȝhowe; gou, gu, giu, geu, geau; ou, owe, eou, eow, eow, eo, eu, euwȝ, æu, hou, heou, heu

Plural Genitive & Dative 2P:

your, youre, yowr, yowre, ȝour, ȝoure yowyr, yowur, yor, yur, yure, yeur, yhure, yhour, yhoure; ȝowyr, ȝowur, ȝor, ȝore, ȝur, ȝure, ȝiore, ȝhour, ȝhoure, ȝaure, ȝiure, ȝiwer, ȝeur, ȝeure, ȝeuer, ȝeuwer, ȝewer, ȝewere; gur, gure, giur, giure, giuor, giuer, giuwer, giwer; ihore, ihoire, iure, eour, eoure, eouer, eouwer, eouwere, eower, eowwer, eore, eur, eure, euwer, euwere, eowrum, æure, our, oure, or, ore, ouer, ouwer, ouwere, ower, owur, hour

(early ME): þinen (genitive), þinum (dative), þirum (dative fem.)

Plural Possessive 2P:

youres, yourez, yours, youris, yurs, yowres, yowris, yowrys, yourn, youren; ȝours, ȝoures, ȝouris, ȝourys, ȝowers, ȝores, ȝures, ȝuris, ȝhurs, ȝourn, ȝouren; eowræs

You can find a lot more about Middle English spellings in LALME (A Linguistics Atlas of Late Mediæval English) (electronic version here)

Some of the more innovative spellings come from Northern Middle English/Northumbria (northern England and southern Scotland, though the dialects of the latter would largely split off and develop mostly on its own in the early stages of Middle English and become Scots) and to a lesser extent Midlands Middle English/Mercian, in large part due to significant past influence of North Germanic/Scandinavian languages; i.e., Old Norse, which was somewhat mutually intelligible with Old English and caused/progressed both the loss of inflections and the formation & solidification of Modern English syntax (in particular, Old English syntax shifted to become near-identical to Old Norse syntax; Old English also entirely lost inflection of grammatical gender, grammarical case, etc. and adopted many core vocabulary of Old Norse). Those changes happened primarily to facilitate communication with vikings in the Danelaw, since Anglo-Saxons and Scandinavians were very eager to communicate with each other; things like declensions were very different in the two languages (the 12 different declensions of “the” probably weren’t fun to deal with for Scandinavians), so Old English speakers started omitting or simplifying them, and they mostly died off in (early) Middle English. English also completely lost dual pronouns (pronouns with exactly 2 referents). Word order was primarily SVO in Old Norse, so Old English’s relatively liberal word order (or lack of consistent word order) was simplified/regularized significantly to be more SVO.

Southern Middle English – the dialects of West Saxon and Kent – were significantly more conservative (partly due to having next to no influence from Norse). Those are where many more conservative spellings are from. The West Saxon dialects were the most influential/dominant (especially due to the Kingdom of Wessex’ great power) until the Norman Conquest, when East Midlands English (especially around London) took over that role.

Southern American English & Maritime Canadian English varieties were both primarily based on more southern English varieties – specifically, the time’s London English and West Country English. Appalachian English was also heavily influenced by Scottish English and the English of northern England. Canadian English in general was based on both Southern and Midlands English. Meanwhile, New England’s English was primarily derived from East Midlands dialects. Generally, dialects derived from the time’s West Country English are significantly more conservative and more similar to the general speech of ~15th century England, while more Midlands (of the time) influenced American and Canadian varieties are similar to standard ~17-18th century English. Dialects influenced by the time’s Scottish English and Northern English also generally contain a lot more conservative Anglic constructions – modern Appalachian/Southern American English varieties and modern Scottish/Northern varieties share a large amount of vocabulary and other features which were lost in other dialects.

Standard varieties of Modern British English are comparatively generally significantly more innovative and don’t share many features with Middle & Early Modern English varieties – general British English started diverging greatly from most other English dialects around the mid-to-late 18th century and early 19th century. This is also a reason why Australia and New Zealand English have a lot of features which seem to only partially agree with other English varieties. For example, the trap-bath vowel split, which was partially completed in Australia and is present in certain words, but not all words, and has variation in some words. When Australia was being colonized, Southern English varieties had recently begun undergoing the split, and it was considered a “Cockneyism” until Received Pronunciation was formed in the late 19th century and embraced it; it wasn’t fully progressed until around that time, which is why New Zealand English (which came from immigrants in the mid 19th century) mostly agrees with Southern English on those vowels.

abfarid ,
@abfarid@startrek.website avatar

If I wasn’t dead, I would hate being a person in Middle English era either way.
But thanks for the interesting article.

ouRKaoS ,

Since you seem to be a good person to ask, and will probably give a better answer than Google, was the thorn somewhere in our current 26 letter alphabet at some point and got deleted, or was it already gone out of style by the time we settled in our current order?

sparkle , (edited )

Þorn was in use since Fuþark (Germanic runes) but wasn’t used to write Anglo-Saxon until around the 8th century. It died out after the printing press came into use, usually imported from France (or Germany or something occasionally) and not using some characters found in English at the time. Because of the lack of a Þ/þ key, typers started to use “Y” as a substitute (which is why you see e.g. “ye olde” instead of “the olde”). Eventually þorn just disappeared and people used the spellings using “th”. A similar thing happened to Yogh (Ȝ/ȝ), where it was substituted for by “Z” (With e.g. “MacKenȝie” yielding “MacKenzie” instead of “MacKenyie”) until it disappeared and spellings using “y”/“gh” (or “j”/“ch” when appropriate) replaced spellings using “ȝ”.

Ðæt (Ð/ð/đ) was mostly replaced by þorn by Middle English so it didn’t get to be slain by the printing press. Wynn (Ƿ/ƿ) was replaced by “uu”/“w”/“u” by Middle English too. Ash (Æ/æ) didn’t die off, in large part because it was available on many printing presses of the time due to its usage in French and Latin, but it became obsolete for English words and was mostly used to replace “ae” in loanwords (especially from Latin and Greek).

There were some other funny things in Old English & Middle English orthography; like omitting n/m and writing a macron over the preceding vowel to indicate the sound (like “cā” instead of “can”), in the same way that it occured in Latin/Latinate languages which lead to “ñ” and “ã”/“õ” in Spanish/Portuguese/Galician.

ouRKaoS ,

Thank you for this answer! I will hopefully be able to use it in the near future to trigger my favorite response from people: “Why do you know that?”

sparkle ,

Haha yeah. Soon after becoming a linguist your first realization is how little everyone else knows about or cares to know about linguistics. Btw I edited to add a little more information if you’re interested.

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