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abfarid ,
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What is this about even? What kind of install requires calls?

abfarid ,
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I agree with you that the article is clickbaity, it implies that it’s the default punishment. But technically, it isn’t wrong. It’s still possible to get death penalty for advocating for Taiwan independence.

Without looking at your post history, I think your downvotes are unjustified. You merely pointed out the clickbait. But it would be better if you presented it in more affirming way, cause right now your comment kinda reads like you’re refuting the article and “it’s not a death sentence, it’s only a 3-year imprisonment”, which is also not true.

abfarid , (edited )
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On Reddit I always assumed that so many people can’t be that stupid uneducated and make these obvious mistakes for engagement bait.
But now that we are on Lemmy, and engagement gets you nowhere, I’m losing faith in humanity at a faster pace.

abfarid , (edited )
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In my experience, these mistakes are made primarily by native speakers. Because they learned it by hearing and can’t tell the difference. Those who learned English as a second language learn through books and are explicitly taught the difference.

abfarid ,
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If I wasn’t dead, I would hate being a person in Middle English era either way.
But thanks for the interesting article.

abfarid , (edited )
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Talking to women is no longer considered a best practice.
Recommend upgrading to listening to women.

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To get unnecessarily scientific here, that wouldn’t change the overall density of the body, no? Even if there’s now a cavity with vacuum, the matter that was occupying that space just moved somewhere else within the volumes of the body and the overall density remained the same.
Now, if it pushed some matter out, air or water, and created a vacuum cavity, that might work. But I’m not an engineer, so correct me if I’m wrong.

abfarid ,
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Exactly my point, the volume doesn’t change in the example provided. Weight and volume stayed the same. We either need to expand Godzilla or it needs to eject some mass.

abfarid ,
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I just don’t know why I’m getting booed, I’m right.

abfarid , (edited )
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Expansion of lungs makes us float because our whole body expands significantly, relative to our small volume.
In the examples mentioned above, the organs creating vacuum are said to be “somewhere inside” the body. Vacuum or not, Godzilla needs to visibly swell to increase its volume and buoyancy, which we don’t observe.

The air in submarines is used for pushing the water out of tanks, so the principle is ejecting matter. If Godzilla were to use that approach, as I said before, it needs to eject something.

abfarid , (edited )
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I made that assumption because lungs aren’t really inside, they are pretty close to the surface, so they are easy to expand. If they were inside, they would have to push other organs away.
And regarding increasing the overall volume of the body, I addressed that in another comment. Basically, Godzilla would have to visibly swell by a lot, to have that much buoyancy.
It could be that the swelling is only in the underwater part, but then Godzilla would tip over with any slight movement, because the center of mass would be way above water.

abfarid , (edited )
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Yes, that would work. But imagine the swelling, to give Godzilla that much buoyancy.

abfarid ,
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At this point, you’re just trying to ridicule me over my choice of words and not actually trying to interpret them in the context that you yourself set:

they have a sack of muscles somewhere inside their body

Why mention “inside their body” if you didn’t mean “deep” inside? All organs are “inside” the body. Therefore, I interpreted your words meaning truly “internal” organs, that that don’t manifest themselves on visual inspection, like heart or bladder. Lungs, while technically inside, are peripheral and visibly expand - a critical distinction in this context.

So you specify “inside” and then mock my adherence to that framing, instead of addressing the core biomechanical issues being discussed.

abfarid ,
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First, let’s address the expansion of lungs, because you say “little air”, but in terms of volume, lungs are very big. On average, the volume of a human body is about 65 liters. When person fully exhales, the lung capacity is at about 1-1.5L; when expanded, it’s about 5-6L. Interpreted charitably, that’s roughly 8% percent of the entire human body volume. So realistically, expansion of the body by 8% is the difference between slowly sinking, and floating with the top of your skull (or roughly 1% of your body volume) peaking out of water.

Now, Godzilla, on the other hand, has like 80% of his body above water. Can you imagine, the amount of expansion that needs to happen for that much buoyancy? That’s pufferfish territory.

So no, a “tiny percentage” increase in body volume driven by empty chamber “inside” his body would not be enough.

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Yes, but birds are very light in general. Most of their volume is feathers and they have a low bone density to boot. As the result, they have a very hard time diving, and have to either dive at high speed or paddle really hard to stay underwater.

And regarding boats, it depends. Do you mean completely empty passenger boats? Then yes, their density is very low by design, because they are mostly empty on the inside. When fully loaded, a commercial cargo vessel, is 80-90% under water.

abfarid ,
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I can’t, and I wasn’t going to. My argument was never about what Godzilla can or can’t do, it was about physics. Specifically, that you can’t move stuff around internally, without changing volume significantly, to change buoyancy.

Deballasting bone cavities is definitely an option. But to achieve the levels of buoyancy displayed by Godzilla, they’d need to be truly massive. Or he’s using paddling in tandem to help itself stay above water, akin to what dolphins do to hold most of their body above water.

Also, you can’t squeeze bones, so Godzilla needs an organ that would force discharge that ballast. Like sacks of highly compressed air, which are used to push out the water completely. This is similar to what submarines do.

Instead of bones, we could also just use your approach with organs. Emptying sacks of water and filling them with air. But either way, we need to discharge ballast, as I was saying originally. It’s a limitation of law of physics, and not a limitation of Godzilla’s abilities.

Source: I have a bachelor’s degree in Maritime Transportation and Navigation. Which is basically a BSc on “how to buoyancy right”.

abfarid ,
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Don’t know what to tell you, man. You sound very confident, but I literally have a bachelor’s degree in Maritime Transportation and Navigation, and have served on several cargo vessels, as well as a couple of passenger ferries. I might have exaggerated with 90%, I’ll give you that, so take it down to 80%.

cruise ships are 10% underwater

As I said, those are usually mostly above water, to prioritize comfort. But even those are at least 30% underwater, with very low center of gravity. You can’t have a ship 90% above water; it would keel over. Except some heavyweight barges that have big surface area, I suppose.

A fully loaded cargo ship can’t be more than 30%

In fact, that’s about the least an empty cargo ship is underwater. Because when empty, cargo ships take ballast to prevent capsizing. Also the propeller is designed to be at least a few meters below water to be effective.

they tend to be stacked far higher than the ship’s sides

I think you’re focused specifically on container vessels. Those still have way more massive holds than the containers you see on deck.

Ocean waves would easily swamp a ship that was 80-90% underwater

Depending on the season and projected weather conditions, ships are leaded to a different extents. They have load lines for winter and summer. In summer, for certain cargo ships, the freeboard can sometimes be measured in centiliters. I remember being able to kneel on deck and reach the water with my hand. In heavy seas, the waves are constantly on the deck and the ship can handle it fine; you just don’t go there.

Ships often look deceptive about their draft, because you almost never see a ship truly empty. Even when not carrying load, they have a lot of ballast.

abfarid , (edited )
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Whimsical or not, there was a scientific misconception used in the statement, that I myself used to have as well. My only goal was to help dispel the misconception. Usually, Lemmy is quite welcoming to correction of scientific inconsistencies in sci-fi discussions. Idk what happened in this particular thread, but it went off the rails. All my statement got misconstrued and downvoted, despite me engaging in the discussion in good faith and being factually correct. Several people showed up, making incorrect or irrelevant statements and got upvoted.

Like your “lungs are on the outside” comment. Maybe you can explain to me, why am I being antagonized and intentionally misunderstood? Obviously I didn’t mean that lungs are on the outside, context matters. And I explained the context in another comment.

abfarid ,
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Looks like something you’d encounter in Morrowind.
…and you’d miss all the hits and get owned.

abfarid ,
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But this “unprocessed salami” can speak. Kinda puts them on level playing field.
Unless, of course, salami is voiced by Eddie Murphy, in which case it’s an easy pick.

abfarid ,
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Sure, throw another wrench into my bird training data…

abfarid ,
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This isn’t helpful. I also need “not bird” examples. If I train on this data, everything will be bird.

abfarid ,
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Dang, you’re patient. I played this back on PS3. Does it even have online players anymore? They are an integral part of the experience, IMO.

abfarid ,
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That’s a shame there aren’t any players any more.
I’m a patient gamer, too. I almost never buy games at full price. But I try to strike a balance with online(-ish) games. Some experiences you just can’t have once a game with an online aspect isn’t popular anymore.

Coke—and Dozens of Others—Pledged to Quit Russia. They’re Still There. (www.bloomberg.com)

After Vladimir Putin’s troops surged over the Ukrainian border in February 2022, the Coca-Cola Co. was among the first multinationals to pledge it would quit Russia in protest. Aiming to avoid the inevitable headaches of complying with expected Western sanctions on the Kremlin, Coke asked its partners there to pull its cans...

abfarid ,
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Weird, they mentioned Subway and TGIF, but not Burger King.

abfarid ,
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Scientific method is the best tool we have to achieve “pure objectivity and truth”, but it’s not perfect. The primary point of failure being application of it by extremely subjective creatures.

abfarid ,
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We can’t be sure of that. Maybe we will constantly be approaching the truth and never reach it. Or maybe we will just figure out every rule governing the quantum physics and extrapolate all the macro physics. Who knows.
Maybe there are meta physics responsible for creating our physics. Like, laws governing the creation of universes with different physics in each of them. Maybe it’s meta physics all the way down…

abfarid ,
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Again, we can’t even begin to speculate on what we’ll know in 1000 or 10,000 years because it’s so far beyond our current understanding. Practical time travel might be discovered. Or maybe we’ll learn how to extrapolate the path of any number of particles all the way back to the Big Bang and effectively learn all of the past.

abfarid ,
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We like putting things into boxes. It simplifies things. It’s easier to put things into objective boxes in math and physics, but the further from those you get, more subjective these boxes become. Biology is almost entirely subjective, we just draw a line in the sand where it suits our needs (at the time) the best.

abfarid , (edited )
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You were asking for suggestions of activities to spend your “free” time on, and then dismissed suggestions because they don’t pay.
You also dismissed some other great suggestion completely, like programming and making art, drawing, composting etc.
Assuming your game interests aren’t strictly limited to Call of Duty and FIFA, you might be interested in making games and game related art, like pixel art, 3D models, chiptune music, etc. There’s tons of free tools for creating those and practically unlimited resources to learn from.

abfarid ,
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Ok, I guess you’re technically right; you didn’t, in fact, ask for suggestions. But your post heavily implies that you are. Because why else would you be asking? Just to learn what other people are doing with no particular goal? Usually people ask such questions to get some ideas.

abfarid ,
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Seems to me like the OP was fishing for attention, negative or otherwise.

abfarid ,
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I’m surprised I haven’t seen the “Adstronaut in Ad Space” joke anywhere else.

abfarid ,
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Mostly true, but minor correction, Azerbaijan didn’t attack Armenia, they attacked the Armenians in their occupied territories.

abfarid ,
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Sure. But it’s Azerbaijan according to international law. So it’s simply false to say “Azerbaijan attacked Armenia”, because Armenia refers to certain internationally agreed upon territory, which doesn’t cover the area Azerbaijanis attacked, regardless of your opinions on whether it was justified or not.

abfarid ,
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I don’t fuck on my first Lemmy thread.

abfarid ,
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I did no such thing. Word “Armenia” means a specific thing. “Armenians” mean another thing. So you’re correct to say

Azerbaijan attacked Armenian citizens

But if a town populated by only Armenians living in, say, France was attacked by, say, German forces, you wouldn’t say that Germany attacked Armenia. Germany attacked France, because it’s about the country.
Speaking of ships, according to the maritime law, vessels flying a country’s flag are considered an extension of that country’s territory. So legally, yes, attacking a US carrier would be the same as attacking the USA.

Until now, I was being neutral regarding who’s at fault, but you keep insisting that Armenians are the only victims here, and the land is allegedly historically theirs. Ok, let’s assume that’s true. I even agree that Armenians definitely lived there historically. But if what Armenians did in 1993 (capturing seven Azerbaijani-majority districts outside the enclave itself) is justified and OK, then what Russia is doing now in Ukraine is also justified and OK. There are plenty of ethnic Russians in Ukraine, especially in the occupied territories.
Now imagine the conflict in Ukraine is frozen for 20 years. And 20 years later, Ukraine takes back their internationally recognized territories. Will you also be claiming that Russians have historically lived there and hence it’s not OK for Ukraine to recapture them?
You can’t decide these things based on “historical territories”, the international law exists for a reason, else everybody would be at each other’s throats. How far back should we go? Do we arbitrarily pick a cutoff date? Draw a line in the sand? Should Italy start claiming the entirety of Europe because Rome once occupied it for half a millennium?

abfarid ,
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See you on the second thread.

abfarid ,
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As an “azeri”, I agree, the situation is a shitshow. Both nations lived together in many of these territories and you can’t just draw a line to separate them. I don’t know what a practical solution to this issue would be. Currently, the nations dislike each other, to put it mildly. But I have to say that since Azerbaijan recaptured their internationally recognized territories, there at least has been a ray of hope, because the leaders actually starting talking to try to solve things. There was 0 progress for almost 30 years and suddenly, there is some (no way you would see Pshinyan and Aliyev smiling on the same photo before then). As soon as the primary instigator (Russia) got busy enough, there’s progress started.
And while Azerbaijan is obviously not completely in the right here, considering the treatment of the prisoners and such, the western support for Armenia is mostly due to political reasons and not because Azerbaijan’s actions to reclaim their internationally recognized territories are inherently wrong. France and USA both have a lot of Armenian voters which influence their decisions, so the situation is rather skewed in the media. They bark to get the votes, but do nothing, because they want the oil/gas, and cause the territories are legally Azerbaijan.
Both parties are historically at fault and it was beneficial to keep them fighting.

abfarid ,
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Yes to validate the winnings of territorial dispute for the side who has the most economically powerful friends.

Sure, if you completely disregard the international law, then yes, I concede that I’m wrong.
But by that logic, what Russia is doing is ok. Who cares if the laws says that territory is Ukraine’s, there are Russians in there. Let them keep it.

And since my whole argument is based on respecting international law, I have nothing else to say. Especially since you managed to settle this decades long dispute so easily. Armenians good, Azerbaijanis bad. That will surely solve everything.

P.S.

You mean when they migrate more Azerbaijan citizens to the area to make a pretense for territorial disputes in the first place…? Kinda sounds exactly like what Russia was doing in the first place.

How devious of the Albanians and Turks to start moving there 1000s of years in advance to later “denazify” the area.

abfarid ,
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Yeah, that’s the Azerbaijani’s excuse, too. But to be fair, “occupying” a tiny piece of land for defensive purposes, after being occupied by 30% for 30 years barely counts as “attacking”. It’s overdefending.

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