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notanaltaccount ,

The conspiracy theorists all say Joe is supposed to step down and Gavin Newsom somehow is added to the ticket which then will win. These conspiracy theorists also say that candidates are selected in advance by the powers that be and it’s all pagentry to deceive the gullible masses. Was this debate really an unepected plot twist, or was it planned?

HeyThisIsntTheYMCA ,
@HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world avatar

When is JFK coming back from the dead

notanaltaccount ,

I am not saying I believe all these things. It’s just what they say.

All the “misinformation” “conspiracy theorists” seem to have gotten quite a few things right.

HeyThisIsntTheYMCA ,
@HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world avatar

I follow. The best lies have a teensies pair of truth legs to get them started.

notanaltaccount ,

It’s actually far beyond that.

Remember when covid happened and the media and government said it came from a bat at a market in wuhan and not from the experimental covid lab directly next to the market?

And remember when this was considered “misinformation” and a “conspiracy theory” if you even mentioned that it could be from the covid lab?

Do you rember when they said it was a “conspiracy theory” and “misinformation” to say the covid vaccine was impacting hearts, before they withdrew the Johnson & Johnson vaccine?

Do you remember people getting banned from Facebook for even mentioning that and being called conspiracy theorists spreading misinformation?

Well Pepperidge Farm remembers motherfucker.

Siegfried , (edited )

I’m in the backyard of your family’s lot, remember?

evranch ,

America needs some perspective. You complain that your only choices are a doddering fool or a toxic narcissist who wants to actively destroy the nation.

Here in Canada we look at our options and think “America is so much better, I wish we had an option to vote for a doddering fool. All we have are narcissists”

No joke I wish we had a leader as good as Biden. The bar is so low that the devil is doing the limbo with it down in Hell.

saigot ,

No I would definitely vote for trudeau a 100 times over before Biden, and we have at least 3 choices in almost every riding. We don’t have to worry about gerrymandering and voters reform while unlikely is at least a topic mainstream politicians will tall about.

Comparing ourselves too much to the states is why canada is the mess it is, it’s still no contest with the states.

evranch ,

Trudeau over Biden?

Trudeau is importing the world’s problems in the name of propping up the real estate investor class (of which he is a member) and pumping up fake GDP numbers. GDP per capita is plummeting in Canada with excess immigration.

Singh is in his pocket, a waste of a vote. I was an NDP voter all my life, I’m done.

Polliviere is an absolute idiot who will ride a wave of hatred for Trudeau into office.

Voters in Canada have no power and no representation as all votes are whipped. Your MP is a seat filler. We have no ballot initiatives or direct democracy options that America has, and reform will never come.

Biden listens to people who know what they’re doing and stands out of the way… Passed legislation supporting workers and unions, energy infrastructure etc. meaning he’s both more left than Singh and more business-friendly than PP

saigot ,

Well your clearly not here in good faith so I’ll keep it brief.

Singh is in his pocket, a waste of a vote. I was an NDP voter all my life, I’m done.

Sorry can’t hear you over the sound of my dentists drill.

Polliviere is an absolute idiot who will ride a wave of hatred for Trudeau into office.

Worse than Biden, probably, worse than Trump no way.

Voters in Canada have no power and no representation as all votes are whipped. Your MP is a seat filler

No I live in a green riding.

evranch ,

No I’m serious, I’m here in SK and we’re trying to push Moe and his cronies out for the NDP this fall, and our biggest problem is the federal NDP damaging the brand by backing Trudeau. All we say all day is “The SK NDP is not affiliated with the federal party, we stand for working Canadians, vote Moe out”

If you think $500 for low income and seniors is anything other than a bone thrown to pacify the poor then Singh has pulled the wool over your eyes.

The requirement for “no access to insurance” absolutely torpedoes the entire thing. Private insurers need to fall, universal coverage is the only way. Dental is the Canadian equivalent to the entire USA health insurance racket.

Congrats on living in the one green riding, which does give you some power over your single seat party… Which ultimately holds no power at all in our broken system.

I’m sorry to say I voted Trudeau on the promise of electoral reform, which he then told us we didn’t want. I’m in a safe blue riding which means my vote is pointless, so I’m going full protest vote next time for the PPC 🤣 Max is laughable, especially his obsession with dairy supply management, but enough votes for “burn it down” will hopefully send a message.

woelkchen ,
@woelkchen@lemmy.world avatar

British politics are funnier anyway.

Siegfried ,

I don’t get why Lord bucket head didnt get more votes

FluffyPotato ,

No chance, I usually don’t care about American politics but I’m not gonna miss the chance to watch 2 geriatric fucks attempt to debate one another.

It was so much worse than I envisioned it to be though. Like one guy seemed to make up literally everything with insane claims that were delivered with confidence only rivaled by how stupid they were and the other sounded like his brain turned to soup if he spoke for more than 5 seconds and when not speaking he looked like a frog seeing a very tasty fly on the wall.

I really hope Europe can get our collective shit together and supply Ukraine once the US shits the bed there.

match , (edited )
@match@pawb.social avatar

one guy seemed to make up literally everything with insane claims that were delivered with confidence only rivaled by how stupid they were

that’s exactly how he was when he was president from 2016-2020. he tried to nuke a hurricane and buy greenland. his own party basically lets him say whatever dogshit he likes as a distraction while they engage in graft and tax evasion

Nicoleism101 , (edited )

At this point the only thing I care about are hordes of m1 abramses if putin crosses the border. I don’t have any other expectations or hopes.

Trump was somewhat ironically right about paying for it. Because if that’s the only thing that America can offer to the world then better name a price for your single trick.

Annually2747 ,

Your family is in our neighbourhood and in this domestic dispute I’m just wondering if I need to call the police or the abundance.

CancerMancer ,

I’m just wondering if I need to call the police or the ambulance

Both? One of these guys is a convicted felon turned robber baron and the other is a retirement home escapee who has lost the light in their eyes.

match ,
@match@pawb.social avatar

I say this as an American: maybe start making friends with the other countries because we are not gonna be okay whatever happens.

WeirdGoesPro ,
@WeirdGoesPro@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

In America, you can’t call just one—you’ll still get police if you ask for an ambulance.

Source: am American, have tried calling for only an ambulance before.

match ,
@match@pawb.social avatar

Did they charge an extra $10k for the police?

WeirdGoesPro ,
@WeirdGoesPro@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Indeed, the person in the ambulance went bankrupt. I’m not even kidding.

revlayle ,

We call an ambulance we get fire dept first responders, then an ambulance if you need it. Never got the police, and we have done it many times with my father in law with heart issues.

… And I live in Tulsa

atrielienz ,

Who’s driving that ambulance?

uebquauntbez ,

Yeah, you true. Get out the popcorn and watch USA go down either with a 3yo minded constant liar or a 80+yo laggard. And learn mandarin.

SatansMaggotyCumFart ,

Why are you scared of oranges?

generichate1546 ,

Because of the implication

uebquauntbez ,

There’s bloody stuff under the skin?

then_three_more ,

The 3yo minded liar is near enough 80 anyway.

drunkpostdisaster ,

This will be up there with 9/11 for worst things to happen to the country

Siegfried ,

Well, i would have gone for slavery or genocide, but downing a financial building is probably the same from a POV.

/s I’m just joking

rsuri ,

The crazy thing is everything up to this point was so much better. They’d show biden waiving at “nobody” and then they’d zoom out and there’s someone standing there. Or he’d say “president of Mexico” when he meant to say “president of Egypt”. But then last night was like nonstop fail. It’s the perfect nightmare scenario because now everyone can say “You shoulda seen it sooner!” but really, we couldn’t.

stabby_cicada ,

Sounds like an excuse.

What I mean is: it sounds like his handlers kept making excuses and you kept accepting them because you wanted to believe them.

I know, I’m frustrated too. I dismissed the Alex Jones Fox News crowd because they were known liars, they’d lied to us for decades, and this really did seem like standard conservative projection to deflect from their candidates’ obvious mental issues.

Hate to admit it. But the conservatives were right and we were wrong.

mhague ,

I don’t see how what conservatives say has to do with reality.

Biden has been “senile” and “too old” for years now, during which time we’ve had a functioning Biden administration.

The Trump admin was limp, chronically understaffed, weak, ineffectual. That’s what they’re pretending is better than Biden. Conservatives don’t even care about senility so if you hear them rag on Biden and think they’re right, you’re not understanding what they’re really saying.

DogWater ,

Don’t make the mistake of thinking the 1st trump term will be like the second if he wins. This time people are prepared and have a playbook to do as much damage as possible. Google project 2025.

justaderp ,

We’ve seen this before with Reagan. We took the military industrial complex to the next level. If history repeats with banks deregulated as they are now… It won’t matter one fucking bit, really. It’s not very important whom they choose to front their cons. No President can save us, or would want to. Our oppressor is not our savior.

brucethemoose ,

No, plenty of nonpartisan and even liberal people were yelling this too. I had no illusions of Biden’s age.

America is not just two internet echo chambers… even if it feels like it right now.

boatsnhos931 ,

Hey Everyone! That was just a funny joke, haha parody…you know how we do! Real debate next month haha

SLVRDRGN ,

haha…

JATtho ,

A dum question: if both candidates are unable to function, then what happens? (Trump for his crimes, Biden for getting dementia…)

Meanwhile in Finland: the Finnish version of “build the wall”:

Parliament’s Administrative Committee will not resume its discussion of the Refoulement Act until after the weekend. The committee is still so far behind schedule that it could not complete its work today. The debate on the bill continued during the committee meeting, which started at 5 p.m. but ended quickly. Peltokangas says there was no drama at the meeting. https://yle.fi/uutiset/lyhyesti/74-20097017

The bill needs 5/6 parliamentary approval and politicians are already sweating over it because it touches too many international treaties + constitution. Debate is mostly: is it ready yet? is it ready yet? is it ready yet? (While the committees checking the bill are getting more uneasy by the bill’s content…)

justaderp ,

If it’s after they’re elected then it’ll run down the line of succession: VP, Speaker of the House, president pro tempore of the Senate, then the cabinet.

If it’s before they’re elected, I’m no expert but I believe the Democratic and Republican parties are private organizations that can do whatever the fuck they want, even fail to abide by the results of their own primaries.

match ,
@match@pawb.social avatar

Checked out the Refoulement Act and it looks ugly, I wish you good luck over there with your own government

uis ,

This reminded me about comment I’ve seen that French parlamentarism is now shipped from Finland.

Also you got link text and url backwards.

NMeneses ,

As a foreigner I sinned for I disobeyed the advices and watched it…

I couldn’t believe it was so bad… once I saw it I couldn’t believe I was watching that.

ZILtoid1991 ,

To all you inside the US: you might want to look up how assault rifles’ can be modified to be automatic.

I have a feeling that if Trump wins, someone will do the nazi salute thing again, but maybe insert “hail god!” somewhere into it, and this time it’ll be done by someone way more mainstream…

recapitated ,

Ok let’s get you back to bed

ShitOnABrick ,
@ShitOnABrick@lemmy.world avatar

ZzzzzzzzzzzZzzzzzzzzzZzzzzzzzz I skibdi with um COVID dealing with uh everything hmmm we had to uh deal with uh OOOooorere if we finally beat Medicare

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/3d7d5785-9f1c-4b8c-8354-6a275c3c48fe.png

p5yk0t1km1r4ge ,
@p5yk0t1km1r4ge@lemmy.world avatar

We are so fucked if this is Joe’s new demeanor. My god, the orange bafoon handled it so much better…fuck

ShitOnABrick ,
@ShitOnABrick@lemmy.world avatar

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/bdeb69fd-1954-4137-bbcc-714d668fb98d.png

GiddyGap ,

My god, the orange bafoon handled it so much better

Yeah, if you completely ignore anything that came out of his mouth. His sentences very maybe more coherent, but the content was certainly awful.

CancerMancer ,

Trump’s still in control of his (meager) faculties and that’s the issue. They’re going to have to put someone else in against Trump or admit that the past few years have been Weekend at Biden’s

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