I’m definitely in the “for almost everything” camp. It’s less ambiguous especially when you consider the DD/MM vs MM/DD nonsense between US dates vs elsewhere. Pretty much the only time I don’t use ISO-8601 is when I’m using non-numeric month names like when saying a date out loud.
In Canada we use MM/DD and DD/MM so you never quite know which it is! There’s an expense spreadsheet I fill out for work that uses one format in one place and the other format in another…
Credit rating also depends on credit to debt ratio. You want to keep it below 35%, so you would need a credit line of $100T or more to have a great rating.
Articles and posts like this really just exist for conservatives to shout that we need to stop federal spending and cut out “unimportant” things like Dept of Education, as described in Project 2025.
The problem is that debt is good. It enables us to pay for infrastructure projects and services. It doesn’t work like a household budget…not on the scale of international economies…because money “in the bank” is money that’s not in circulation.
When money is not in circulation, it’s not being used to pay for goods and services…it’s just…sitting there being hoarded.
You all complain about Musk hoarding a few hundred billions. Imagine if the debt were in the opposite direction and the government had $34T sitting in the bank doing nothing.
And anyone can buy Treasury debt. In fact, last year it was an AMAZING return on investment for anyone that bought into it and holds into the debt for a few years. One of the safest places anybody could put money to earn a return (behind a HYSA at FDIC insured banks).
Fully agreed, the whole “Debt bad! Deficit evil!” trope is just neoliberal propaganda against public expenditure, which translates into a weakening of the welfare state
When money is not in circulation, it’s not being used to pay for goods and services…it’s just…sitting there being hoarded.
This is why I think the velocity of money should be a key economic indicator. Money moving around and doing work is what makes an economy better for everyone. When it starts to pool in the economy it slows down and benefits only a few.
This is another thing I learned from “Making Money”
I’m not a financial expert, so someone who is please step in and correct anything that I say is wrong. I need to learn too.
It’s because the government’s debt is also a surplus. Government debt isn’t like personal debt because the government debt is mostly through selling bonds that the government issues. Most of that debt is owned by American citizens, in one way or another, who buy those bonds. Most of that $34 trillion is money the government owes it’s people, or at least the Americans who hold those bonds.
It’s not really money you owe but it’s money that is owed to you. Well actually the billionaire class who can actually afford to buy these bonds but hey, that’s Capitalism baby.
Rental has its place, there have been plenty of occasions in my life where rental suited me better than ownership. Regulation and enforcement of said regulations would do a lot to protect people in this situation.
How do you handle situations where people want to live temporarily in houses? An example would be a traveling nurse that doesn’t want to be in an apartment building.
that’s significantly less bad of a problem than the current issue of no one being able to afford homes. that nurse might just have to go for the apartment… that’s really not that big of a deal.
May people prefer to rent houses over owning one. Many of them I speak to tell me they want nothing to do with house maintenance and upkeep and they prefer to rent so that they don’t have to think or worry about any of the repairs. They like being able to just call the property manager when the hot water stops working or when their kiddo accidentally breaks a window.
Everything you are saying is true, and even with those facts noted, some people still prefer the convenience of renting and some like the carefree aspect of not having to be responsible for the upkeep.
Why do you care so much how someone else chooses to live their life? Some people want to rent and it’s no one else’s business to make them do any different.
If you want to own a house and a buy a maintenance contract go for it.
I personally wouldn’t wish dealing with a home warranty company claim on my worst enemy. They are all scams geared to deny claims.
Maybe because corporate ownership of houses is taking over the market and driving people out of home ownership? Have you missed the news of the last many years? And because there is limited number of houses in reasonable distance (aka it’s not like selling widgets).
Well that’s all well and good until every house rental in your area starts requiring you to either do the maintenance anyway, or pay for it. So you get to pay for the house, and you get to maintenance the house, but you don’t get to own the house.
I’ve watched things change in just the last 5 years where renting a house means you have to maintenance everything that isn’t structural, including lawn care, but you don’t own any stake in the house, and you can forget about putting up a shelf or a new coat of paint. And now that you’re paying the mortgage and taxes on this house, you’re paying for all the utilities for the house, and are fixing all the problems that occur with the house, the landlord gets to send people over whenever they want to that get to go inside your house and look around without you being home just to make sure you’re taking care of it the way they want you to. And then when you leave, either because you found a better deal, or the landlord just doesn’t feel like renting it to you anymore, you get the pleasure of walking away with nothing.
I understand your sentiment, but it took all of a half second to think of one scenario that would cause problems in the proposed system.
As frustrating as it is to hold off on a good-intentioned change, it is far more detrimental to charge headlong without considering the consequences. The systems that are in place now are there for a reason. Some of those reasons are greed and corruption, but others are because of they fulfill people’s needs. It would be stupid to build a new system to address the greed side without addressing the need side.
But if you can’t summarize the solution to a complex societal problem with a history to it into a single simple sentence that can be used as a punchy “hot take”, clearly you just don’t want a solution! /s
Way too many people in the world who are more willing to believe that things suck because everyone’s too stupid to try the “obvious” solution, instead of the fact that most societal issues are icebergs of complication and causes.
Not getting your home infested with bugs because of having a nasty neighbor
No loud honking at night
Not having your door accidentally knocked on to ask if your apartment neighbor is home when they’re not answering their door
Parking in your own garage
Having a yard for your dog/kids to play in
Apartments fucking suck in so many ways. I get that they’re pretty handy in City Skylines where everyone bases their urban planning experience from but there is a reason people prefer to live in house and it’s because it gives you separation from other people in a way apartments cannot.
How does a detached single family home prevent honking? Why haven’t you explained to my neighbors they have to stop honking? Because they definitely still do, and it is still a nuisance
Detached homes definitely have many benefits, but they’re incredibly expensive. If we didn’t subsidize them so much, we’d have a whole lot more people living in denser housing. The US has something like 85% single family homes compared to around 40% in Germany
It’s not that Germans are just so much better neighbors that they can put up with shared walls/spaces. It’s just not worth the cost of a detached home when it isn’t as heavily subsidized (they do still subsidize them compared to dense housing options)
TL;DR - Detached homes are fine, but we need to quit giving such massive subsidizes to them
Literally the first image in that page is a picture of Singapores public housing, and a claim that they have the highest home ownership rates in the world.
Using Singapore, which has the death penalty for drug use isn’t comparable.
I need you to draw a clear through line to why that’s related to public housing policy in any given country.
I’m also gonna like, cite the soviet bloc style apartments, or china’s rapid urbanization in around the same time period that the US decided to make public housing be a thing. I know for the soviet lunchboxes, you had your standard complaints of, oh, long wait lists, subpar build quality, yadda yadda, and then of course towards the beginning of the program you had a large issue with people who had previously been unindustrialized farmers basically just not knowing how to live in an apartment, shit like having your pigs stay indoors and stuff like that. I think similar issues were/are probably a part of chinese publicly subsidized housing complexes. I think barcelona’s superblocks are also publicly subsidized but I don’t know to what extent, and they seem to be working out pretty good. Now those are all places that provide publicly subsidized housing and have provided it to those who were pretty impoverished at the time. They also had/have (again idk barcelona don’t even know why I brought it up) work programs and shit, which we used to have in america, so that might contribute to your point more, but I still think, you know, it is bad to let the perfect be the enemy of the good. The projects were majorly flawed, but they are probably preferable to the whole like. rust belt suburban crime shit. I dunno, realistically it doesn’t really matter what context an apartheid ghetto scenario is happening in, because it’s going to have basically the same consequences on everyone involved.
I need you to draw a clear through line to why that’s related to public housing policy in any given country.
Drug use is rampant among the poor because it provides escape for some and profit for others. But it is destructive to communities creating greater poverty.
Singapore has draconian crime laws where you will be whipped for graffiti and executed for drug use. It creates a safer culture but at what cost?
Is that what’s created their safer culture, though, or is that just something that they also have? uhhh ummm the nordic countries the nordic countries! you ever heard of those! everybody loves those for all their cool examples of policies! no but fr like, portugal with their decriminalization has also had success in eliminating large swathes of their drug problem, oregon, not so much. So I question whether or not it’s that singapore is really having success with their draconian tactics “but at what cost”, or if the draconian tactics are just a secondary element, and then they’re also just doing other shit that would cut down on their drug problem, like having disproportionate funding for their DEA equivalent. I dunno, I just find it hard to believe that draconian crime policy is doing the heavy lifting there, cause those come with some pretty heavy caveats in most places.
I dunno singapore might just kind of equivalent to a slightly more privileged hell joseon though so what do I know.
I think I would rather die than live in an apartment again. Being told how you have to live, whether or not you’re allowed to have a pet and what kind, dealing with constant noise and odors from the many other people living around you against your will, no guarantee that you’ll be allowed to stay there this time next year, etc. Paying rent and not gaining equity in your home definitely sucks, but it’s honestly the last complaint I have against apartment living. In my opinion it’s a subhuman condition that nobody should be forced into.
Rental property should be publicly owned. Landlords shouldn’t be a thing.
I can see there being exceptions if you say own a property but have to move swiftly elsewhere and can’t/don’t wish to sell it, in such a case letting it out makes sense.
No, no exceptions. Once there are exceptions people will abuse them. Even if you inherited your parents property if you already have one you should have to pay extra taxes on it from the day they die until the day you sell it, period. Any person, family, business, or corporation should only own one property, zero exceptions.
It can literally take years to sell a property even if you want to sell it. I don’t think it’s fair to penalize people who are unable to unload an asset and I also don’t think it’s fair to expect them to just give it away.
Even if you inherited your parents property if you already have one you should have to pay extra taxes on it from the day they die until the day you sell it, period.
This seems needlessly callous to me. At least give them a 6-12 month period to clean up, do repairs, and sell the house. Not everyone that inherits a house is making enough to pay increased taxes right out the gate like you’re proposing. Also, from personal experience, cleaning houses of deceased relatives tend to require a bit of work to get ready for selling and is incredibly emotionally draining. What you’re proposing is going to be extremely painful for the people at the bottom, and emotionally wracking, since as soon as a loved one dies you’re now under the gun to sell.
I agree though, second homes should be extremely heavily taxed. I just think we need to approach it with an even hand and make sure that we are targeting big corporate rental agencies and the very wealthy, and not some family that just lost their parents/grandparents. Something about targeting those people seems needlessly aggressive and not really the intention being discussed…
Yeah that’s not far off from some folks’ actual unironic opinions so the /s is unfortunately not obvious, lol. The Poe’s Law situation isn’t even hypothetical in this one.
Dude from Ukraine was telling me that most people own condos. He was weirded out that the vast majority of people in the US don’t have a vested interest into their neighborhood simply because they believe they won’t live there for long.
Did he mention that a lot of the real estate that people own in most post-Soviet countries is inherited when (grand)parents die, this being first if not the only step towards the market for most people?
None of the people I know from Russia, Kazakhstan, Ukraine and Belarus bought their first apartments on their own through hard work or anything: it’s mostly apartments where your grandma died, apartments that you’re either massively helped with or outright gifted by parents when yuu have a significant other to move in with (so both families join funds, most coming from selling some dead relative’s apartment) or on a wedding day (a rarer occasion), or some mix of that.
Without any help or gifts, you’re lucky to be able to get a mortgage that you can pay off before you’re 60 (at least).
The real estate prices outside the US and the EU may seem nicer, but salaries and expenses sure don’t.
What do you imagine these “strict regulations” would be? I live in public housing right now and it’s fantastic. It’s also significantly more democratically run than private housing because it’s mandated to be that way. I also like knowing that nobody is profiting off of my need to live somewhere.
Too bad. You need a centralized authority to manage territory and governments already do this for land, so they can combine land and the real estate on it and distribute it to people fairly.
If you think it’s problematic, then you need to take better control of your government.
It’s either that or corporations who don’t care hog all of the land and housing.
Surely in the 21st century we can engineer a system in which the moving party is allowed a time period to settle in and sell the old property. We must have the technology and manpower to do this meagre task.
People who own second and third homes aren’t even the issue. It’s mega corps that literally own tens of thousands of homes each. A better way to go about it is to just progressively tax people more per home. That second home gets taxed at the same rate but any home after is taxed way way way more. If someone can still afford it then that’s fine, just more tax money coming in. That and don’t let corps own rental properties.
So what is your proposal? If anyone doesn’t get any second houses how it will help other people? Let’s say it will make houses cheaper. How is it any good? Lot’s of building companies will go bankrupt in days after announcing such law. Can you imagine what type of chain reaction it will start? Also, people can easily need second homes. 1- For where your work is at. 2- For where your homecity is at. 3- For where you are spending your holidays at. It’s nice of you to be thoughtful of poor people/people in need but socialist dreams are just what they are. Dreams. It’s much easier and logical to make another cake then trying to split a small cake to hundreds of pieces equally.
First of all, I did not suggest that we flip a switch tomorrow that enacts a law restricting home ownership. It's something we can work towards.
But if you think that it's reasonable for someone to own a house where they work, where they originally were from, and where they want to vacation, then quite frankly I don't think we are ever going to see eye to eye.
But if you think that it’s reasonable for someone to own a house where they work, where they originally were from, and where they want to vacation, then quite frankly I don’t think we are ever going to see eye to eye.
I think there’s an “OR” there, not an “AND”. Or are you refusing to see eye to eye with someone who buys a house somewhere because their career moved, then chooses to keep the old one because they were able to rent it? If that’s the case, why?
Also, if it could conclusively be shown that keeping people from having a second home wouldn’t affect homelessness (which I suspect is true), would you still want to prevent ownership of a second home? If so, why? Just want to stick it to the middle class?
I’m sorry, but considering the top 1% has more than twice wealth of the entire bottom 99% combined, it seems counterintuitive to pass radical reforms that have a larger effect on the lower 99% than the top 1%.
I mean, if I were filthy rich and that kind of thing passed, I would just deed out a single plot of land with a 100-mile or more strip between two 100-acre squares (probably work with other 1%ers to have a co-op of that thin strip of land) and I’d get away with having as many houses as I wanted.
But someone like you or me finds a good price on a little 800sqft second house close to work saving time, money, and environment on commuting? Banned?
are you refusing to see eye to eye with someone who buys a house somewhere because their career moved, then chooses to keep the old one because they were able to rent it?
Yes.
If that’s the case, why?
I will kindly direct you to my very first comment in this thread. Cheers.
I will kindly direct you to my very first comment in this thread. Cheers.
Your first comment did not include a “why”. But you also don’t seem to want to engage. Just throwing out a horrific idea on purpose to troll? I think I’m going to presume you’re acting with self-awareness because I don’t want to insult your intelligence.
So you do you. I’m out. Not like what you’re suggesting will ever happen for people to lose sleep over it.
In Texas, your property tax is already somewhat two tiered. Your first home is taxed as a homestead and you get an exemption on part of the property tax. If you own a second, third, etc you have to pay the full amount and the annual increases are not capped. Im not 100% sure on the specifics as I don’t own more than 1 though.
Your not homestead house will be ~$2,000 higher in taxes than if it were not homestead. Exemption is up to $100k I believe, so I’m going off roughly 2% of exemption for additional taxes.
Not sure if you actually meant logarithmic or exponential. An exponential tax rate would mean that the more you own the next unit of value would be a lot more in tax, while a logarithmic tax rate would mean that the more you own the next unit of value would be a lot less in tax. See x^2^ versus log2(x) (or any logarithm base, really). The exponential (x^2^) would start slow and then increase fast, and the logarithmic one would start increasing fast and then go into increasing slowly.
We already do this with a homestead exemption in Texas. Problem is, all the rent houses don’t qualify for the tax break, so the tax burden is passed on to the renter market / the tenants.
Another one might be: living in their car and getting a cop called on them because a lot of places (US states mainly) have laws against sleeping in a car.
Those tall lamps that most corporate chain stores install in their giant parking lots are also specifically angled to make laying down in your car difficult. It shines right in your eyes. I see a lot of people talk about hostile architecture in terms of physically stopping unhoused people from sleeping in the streets. But car sleeping has a lot of similar barriers that are otherwise invisible.
Off topic: I see your name in orange in the Voyager app. Is this a per-comment flag on Lemmy (that you have the option to set when posting), or just something apps might do based on the value of an account-level flag?
Never had that happen, are you using the web app or the actual app? I tried the actual app and went back to the webapp almost immediately. In fact, it even saves comments I meant to discard and alerts me the next time I open the app.
Idk, the main app seemed to have some issues loading images from certain instances, so I just went back to the pwa where it works fine. I still have it installed, but I’m a creature of habit, so at this point I doubt I’ll change for much of anything.
There are an average of 30.437 days in a month so if you pay a monthly payment for your average February that’s 2.437 days off the average. That’s nearly 10% of a month.
And yes if you are selling pieces of cake they should be the same size.
You’re buying a whole cake and returning the sections you didn’t use. You’re cutting your own pieces…. It’s only your own fault if they aren’t perfectly identical.
Also, every 4th feb has an extra day, so your math isn’t even correct anyways. Nice attempt.
You’re not returning anything if you pay per month and one month is shorter. Nice attempt.
Also, I said your average February not average number of days in February. Your average February has 28 days while your average number of days in February has obviously 1/28th more days. Just like your average person has two hands, it’s based on the average of the buckets not the average in the buckets.
Most of those pay by month are year leases, so yeah you’re agreeing to pay for the year, averaged
The returning was using an example to support my argument.
The average person doesn’t have two hands… that’s a completely false statement.
No one has 3 hands to bring the average back up, and by saying the average is 2, you are claiming no one has 1 or zero hands. Thats clearly false, so the average can’t be 2…
We’ve already discussed how there are monthly expenses not on a lease.
The average person does have two hands, if you test it you’ll see they do, it’s the wonders of whole numbers and how most people don’t have a fraction of a hand.
And you’re free to argue that you’re paying for 28 days instead of 31. Some are willing to give you a deal just to shut you up. The vast majority are yearly leases that are averaged. Can you provide an example of something you pay for just one month? That’s not daily or weekly instead wrapped into monthly…?
No, the average person has less than two hands, and your whole example isn’t even correct. Lots of people are missing fingers or portions of their hands…
Also, the average February has more than 28 days since every fourth has an additional day to bring the average up.
It really sounds like you don’t understand what the term average means here….
Nope, the average person has two hands, the average number of hands on a person is less than two. Just like the average American is white and not a combination of all sampled ethnic groups.
The average February more than 3/4ths of them are 28 days.
It really sounds like you don’t understand statistics.
You really can’t seem to stick to the same point can you? And where’s the examples? You don’t have any do you? You claimed there was plenty, let’s see them.
Your first comment you use decimals, and now you’re saying everything has to be whole numbers… can’t change your story to fit what you want mate.
Stop moving the goalposts, you made a mistake, don’t try to argue different points to save face. Take the L and move on.
There are an average of 30.437 days in a month so if you pay a monthly payment for your average February that’s 2.437 days off the average. That’s nearly 10% of a month.
Nice “whole numbers” lmfao…
The average American isn’t white, most are mixed race and not white…. So you aren’t even correct there either.
You really don’t know what you’re talking about here and have argued 5 different irrelevant points.
Where’s your examples? Where is your proof of anything you’ve claimed? You can’t support anything you’ve claimed and bloviated over.
The only one needing to take the L is you, you made a mistake and have tripled down on 5 completely different irrelevant points to try and save face.
You’ve proved nothing but bloviate about nothing relevant to the discussion.
The average American is not white, the average person has less than two hands… averages don’t NEED to be rounded to a whole number, that’s just plain wrong.
I linked you the wiki page for it, it’s not my fault you can’t read.
Take the L and move on
Isn’t averages taught in second grade…?
The most frequently occurring number in a list is called the mode. For example, the mode of the list (1, 2, 2, 3, 3, 3, 4) is 3. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Average
Depending on the context, the most representative statistic to be taken as the average might be another measure of central tendency, such as the mid-range, median, mode or geometric mean.
Mode is secondary, you’re intentionally choosing a non-standard average to attempt to detract from the main point. And even mode can be decimal as well… so what point do you even think that’s making here anyways…?
I’ll retake second grade once you learn basic reading comprehension…. The fact you need to specify mode instead of average should be more than enough to show you’re trying to mislead here…
And again, please provide the examples of stuff you pay for monthly, you said there is plenty, and haven’t listed one, and have only moved the goalposts every comment instead of answering a very simple follow up to your original main point…:
Uhhh… mode is an average, one of many, but not the standard… I never said or claimed otherwise dude. Why do you keep insulting me instead of defending your original point…?
Yet again you’re wrong.
Please provide these plenty of examples of things you can pay for monthly. Why do you keep moving the goals posts instead of defending your original claim…?
You’ve yet to answer the main question. And this goal post moving is asinine.
Please provide these plenty of examples of things you can pay for monthly. Why do you keep moving the goals posts instead of defending your original claim…?
There is more than one average and you’re intentionally choosing an obscure one.
Please provide these plenty of examples of things you can pay for monthly. Why do you keep moving the goals posts instead of defending your original claim…?
Why are you using mode instead of the standard average? You link averages, than quote a part from “mode” instead of the standard average.
Do you think that defends your point? That you’re intentionally using an obscure definition instead of the standard?
Also, sleazy as shit you edit your comments with different information after the fact.
Please provide these plenty of examples of things you can pay for monthly. Why do you keep moving the goals posts instead of defending your original claim…?
Oh yeah it’s so sleazy to simply point out how you have no idea what you’re talking about. I didn’t even edit what my comment said, I simply added a link and quote to a wiki page.
How dare I add facts that show you don’t know what you’re talking about. 😂
It’s quite common for people to speak English. The native language is Slovene. It’s a really small country in central Europe (much larger than Liechtenstein tho).
I think its a thing here in norway as well. Thats why they just increase the price in early october, just a month ahead of black week bullcrap. Have seen plenty of electronics “super discounted” to the same price they had in september/october
Big items I usually start watching a few months out. If I see a store or brand that pulls tthis garbage, I simply go elsewhere. If I can’t find it on offer, I buy it regular price at the smaller retail store.
I think its a thing here in norway as well. Thats why they just increase the price in early october, just a month ahead of black week bullcrap. Have seen plenty of electronics “super discounted” to the same price they had in september/october
Brazil’s consumers rights department listed itens prices so stores can’t fake advertise them. Countries with regulations: ok, we can do Black Friday, but…
Legacy News Media: We literally have no idea why Gen Z has given up on literally everything, has decided to not save for the future, and instead is trying to live and enjoy their life now.
Real World: Dearth of opportunities to make a life for yourself, every industry has reached is maximum zenith and now makes money by wringing pennies out of consumers, you need money to exist anywhere, there are no more places to just be, and the government is clearly corrupt and about to be taken over by a literal fucking fascist party because the other party is full of pussies who don’t want to “upset the status quo” and keep letting the fucking fascists get away with shit, because “we have to follow the laws, even the ones that clearly benefit the fascists, passed by fascists. It’s the law and if we don’t take it seriously, everything falls apart. Sorry that means the fascists will win.” Oh, and climate change is about to destroy our ability to even have a functional society.
As a millennial, I’m ready for a fucking dirt nap. Things just keep getting worse and fuck nobody is coming to save me or anyone else. Everyone is so caught up in their own lives and problems no one has the time or effort to give anyone else, meaning we’re all suffering alone.
Literally what is even the fucking point of struggling to the natural end of my life? There isn’t one.
It didn’t have to be this way, but a lot of old selfish pieces of shit decided that it was more important to trash the planet and live the high life during their hayday, and then give all their children and grandchildren a swift kick in the ass and says “Children are our future! I just made that up! Now go fix the fucking messes we made for you! We’re not concerned with mass extinction, because we’ll be dead and it won’t be our problem! Good luck, or not!”
Fuckin preach. I’m 33 and have spent the last 8 years in near total isolation because I simply do not have time for anything other than work, chores, feed and bathe myself (if I have time), sleep. That’s it. It’s deepening my depression and sense of total desperation in ways that I’d never imagined. But hey, at least my company is making billions because that’s the truly important part. I’m ready to just say fuck it and go the way of Gen Z. I’ve saved and saved and worked my ass off, played by the rules, got my degree and it’s all been for nothing. I still have nothing. In fact I literally have less than when I was in my 20s. There’s nothing I can do to stop another economic crisis and I’m no where near having enough to survive one so fuck it. I’m ready to just do what I want and if that gets me fired or Im in debt because I finally decided to just take the hit and travel wherever I want then so be it. There’s nothing we can do, we’re on the ride, the clicking of the chains has already started and we are buckled in. Time to just enjoy what we can I guess, even if it sucks the entire time.
You can be positive at end because you have save something with your work. I have your age, never work a single day of my life, I don’t have a bank account, I’m just living with my 70yo parent and keep going with his money that is the wage of essential worker. Where I am going? Enjoy what? What ride? I only see that probably I have to work like a slave in future, and that’s it.
I’m just glad that millennials and Gen Z are educated enough to be killing off organized religion.
A big component of earlier generations accepting how bad things are is expecting them to get better in the afterlife.
“It will be fine as long as I’m forgiven of my sins and go to Heaven! Why would I worry about Earth?”
Thank fucking goodness there’s enough education for people to see through that absolute horseshit, a lie fed to the working populace to keep them compliant until the day they die.
(To be clear, nothing against general spirituality. Mostly issues with organized religion and promising eternal life after death, which not all of them do.)
Honestly, with how loud and nasty organized religion has been in North America this decade, it reminds me of a concept in training I came across recently called Extinction Bursts (study.com/…/extinction-burst-psychology.html).
Basically tantrums because the thing that used to work, doesn’t work anymore, and testing if just Trying the Same Thing Harder will get them what they want.
Interesting stuff! I’d say the main difference is children are able to be controlled, while we’re dealing with adults who are cunning and willing to stop at nothing to change the system to benefit them and only them. In other words, their Extinction Bursts are capable of being effective, and Just Doing It Harder may work. Especially when “doing it harder” is cheating the system.
I had an existential crisis in my early 20’s based entirely around how futile existence is. We live, and work and make babies, so that the next generation can live and work and make babies… Etc. What’s the point? There’s no long term plot line of humans that I know enough about or care enough about that I’d willingly subject myself, or my offspring to a life of existence in this, just to further.
Nearly decided to off myself right then and there.
Last year, finally purchased a house, with help from the resulting life savings of my father (may he rest in peace) and with my brother and his wife. Four fully grown adults in one house, just to afford to live. The only cherry from the whole thing is that interest rates skyrocketed immediately after we signed our fixed mortgage, so we dodged that bullet and we have two more years (as of now) for them to come down before we need to arrange for renewal or something.
But we all eat, sleep, work, repeat. That’s it. The only nice thing I have going for me in all this is that we now have a definite timeframe for when our housing will be ours and costs will finally taper off. In another 24 years. I’ll be 64. If I manage to get underpaid little enough, who knows, I might have some retirement savings by then. Freedom 75.
The corporations have turned multiple generations of people into wage slaves, jacking up the prices for consumer goods while keeping wages stagnant or even reducing wages. It’s fucking disgusting, on top of that, they’ve not so slowly destroyed the planet with pollution. The entire time acting as though they’re the victims and getting bailed out with our tax dollars for mismanaging their respective organizations, prioritizing CEO pay and dividends and stock prices over employee health (especially mental health), employee pay and livable wages. They get all the benefits from automation, computerization and mechanisation and what did we get? Nothing. This fancy machine does the work of 20 workers and will do so forever, and only needs 2 people to run, and only costs 10 people’s salary for one year to pay for, and one person’s salary to maintain, where did the extra money go? Well, the CEOs third yacht isn’t going to pay for itself.
I feel you. Just got my letter what kind of pension I can expect. If it ever happens. Let’s just say it’s not looking good. It does make you wonder why you didn’t just chose a much easier job when the stress and additional hours net you ~100 € more that won’t save you from being meh financially at best anyway.
One friend of mine was lucky enough to get a real good job. He was able to buy property and have a family. The rest of my friend group, we all worked just as hard. But we weren’t lucky so no family or peace of mind for us I guess. It’s demotivating.
Maybe eventually when time marches on and we become the majority (I’m 23) we can make good positive social change. In some ways, while living through it is bad; the hardship and unfairness of the system is preventing the usual trend of people becoming more conservative as they age; so perhaps there is hope for things getting better in the future. We just have to keep trying; we can’t give in to cynicism.
The problem is it is not a generational issue. It’s a class issue. Rich millennials, and Gen Z will be no better than the rich Boomers. They will die believing they are just more special than everyone else and that is why they deserve so much more.
Generations won’t change shit about who is in charge, sadly.
I dunno man, I’ve met some of my peers. The vast majority of them are just normal people, right, living their lives, totally nice, but then some of them are really fucking stupid or mean, and I kind of wonder if this narrative that gen Z will save the world is true at all, or if it’s just that same sort of nonsense, that all we’ll have to do is wait and things will somehow get better.
Look I was alive and paying attention when carbon dioxide passed a threshold that is impossible to go back to. (Over 400ppm in the atmosphere.)
That was ten years ago.
Every climate scientist on the planet predicts society will collapse in the face of climate change.
But sure, keep your head buried in the sand by calling other people “doomers” because you can’t be fucked to look up publicly available scientific research.
I hope you are young so you get to see exactly how bad it gets and to question if maybe you were a dumb fuck to ignore it.
You know all this is worst in America, and I think it’s the systems.
The rest of the British colonies used highly conservative parliaments, where parliament is diverse and consensus is needed
America’s system was different, giving veto rather than encouraging consensus, focusing all power into two parties, removing the diversity
My country gets green policy by the green party gaining enough seats in parliament to makes it worth the bigger parties negotiating with them, that can’t happen in a two party system
You can’t have a bold party on the left because you have no room for a new, different party (that’s why the conservative side changed rather that a brand new party forming)
We are protected by the more stupid ideas the greens have, as the greens must negotiate to get any of their ideas up
The same people say “boycotts don’t work”. The facepalming here is hard. Welcome to the ad riddled future that you helped make because “people can use what they like” (because it’s being pushed by a huge corporate entity and they want you to use it so they can shove ads down your throat and you should laugh at people who would use anything different)
And spoiling Internet for the rest of us. None of us would have to go through this if more people used alternatives to chromium. No website would’ve accepted a 50% loss in visitors over accepting some companies special protocol
Exactly right. It requires seeing yourself as a part of a community vs. fulfilling our selfish interests at the expense of others.
Another example were the suburban PS5 buyers who bought from scalpers so “their kids” could have one, not giving any thought to the fact that they’re contributing to a system that excludes the disadvantaged (or, even worse, knowing but not caring).
Most normal people don’t even know adblockers exist. Guys, if you’re going to convince people to switch away from Chrome, it won’t be on the grounds of protecting against some API or ads.
In this thread lots of uninformed people misunderstanding how the open source Chromium project works (or the difference between Chrome and Chromium). Vivaldi is a Chromium-based browser who frequently disable the parts of Chromium they don’t agree with.
This argument not to use anything Chromium is the same as if someone was fanatically opposed to using Linux Mint or Elementary OS because they’re based on Ubuntu, and Canonical bad.
I love Firefox as much as the next person, and probably do a 75% Vivaldi 25% Firefox split, but let’s not act like Google isn’t bankrolling Mozilla, because they account for 85+% of Mozilla’s revenue, and if Google does implement this Web DRM and if it is widely adopted, Mozilla either submits and enables it to make sure daddy Google stays happy, or they die.
Typically this thinking is mostly correct - e.g. Manifest v3 - but not in this case. If websites see enough users using chormium, via user agent or other fingerprinting, they’ll be more willing to require WEI. And unlike Manifest v3 etc. this affects the whole web, not just users of one browser or the other.
In every case monopolies are bad. Including in tech.
Google used to give a lot more money to Mozilla, then they massively cut it which led to huge layoff affecting a lot of Firefox dev. Thankfully the new Firefox engine were just completed at that point. People like to complain about Mozilla pushing their VPN and Pocket, but they have to find another source of income to reduce their dependency to Google.
Lemmy servers are hosted by just some people that often don’t even accept donations, shoulder the entire legal liability and are sys admin all together by themselves.
And then there is the clownshow reddit being a gigantic company and not even able to not be a gigantic shitshow.
Never doubt your ability to be influenced by propaganda. The technique that broke the internet in 2015, lying and then confirming the lie more convincingly with a second account, is still very successful today.
Largely because Reddit was so much more diverse. Even ol hive mindey Reddit tolerated differing views significantly better than the shit heap that is Lemmy.
Reddit does get super echo chamber-y in some places, though. Check out any thread in /r/worldnews lately and all the comments. They’re all of the same opinion. At least on Lemmy I see disagreement. I see as many complaints about tankies on Lemmy as I do tankies themselves, for example. The only one I’ve seen in this thread has all their comments in the negative.
It’s not as clever yet, thought, as the demographic is rather small. I was amazed that reddits’ world news the comments were almost uniformly not only anti Hamas but pro Israel. I mean not to pick a side here, and not saying theres not astroturfing here. However there’s more diversity of position, whereas the reddit thread felt almost strangly like everyone was just saying stuff, but not carrying any meaning. Felt like the last scene of body snatchers where even the protagonist turns out to be snatched, in a way.
The amount of sophistication is lower. There are people holding extreme positions but quite often they self identify and aren’t state sponsored most of the time.
I agree and have noticed the same things. I don’t think Lemmy is big enough to attract the state sponsors yet like Reddit is but it will probably be susceptible to the same issues when it is.
This happens not really because of the gender of the person but because in Spanish things have genders: The moon is a she, the sun is a he, etc. and ChatGPT confuses that and the fact that in this context that distinction makes no sense.
Usually Spanish speaking non-binary people use also “no-binarie”, something that doesn’t exist in the language, for now at least, but wipes out the gender.
I’m not an expert, thought, just a native Spanish speaker.
Exactly! I would add that you can still use “no binario” or “no binaria” in a (somewhat) respectful manner. For instance, you can say “persona no binaria” (non binary person), “comunidad no binaria” (non binary community), because both nouns are feminine, you can use the feminine alteration of “no binario”. For masculine I would go with “su género es no binario” (its gender in non binary), since gender is masculine and “su” doesn’t imply any gender at all.
Again, not an expert just another fellow native Spanish speaker with a bit of a geekiness about languages.
agree, except “doesn’t exist in the language” - if people are saying it, it exists in the language, there’s no committee deciding what’s “in” or “out” of Spanish (or English, for that matter).
Yes there is a committee for Spanish. It’s called the Real Academia Española. Their official mission is to ensure the stability of the Spanish language across 22 hispanophone countries. I reference them daily because I don’t speak Spanish fluently yet I live in a Spanish speaking country.
I believe that English is the largest language without any sort of “official body.” In France, the Académie Française has the authority to decide what is and isn’t French. I believe that similar bodies exist for German and Mandarin, as well.
Right, but as all similar such committees eventually learn, there’s a pretty strict limit to what they can actually control or regulate. Mostly it’s just formal written usage that can be regulated. Spoken language doesn’t give a shit about anyone’s notions of what’s considered correct or incorrect. This is one of the foundational principles of linguistics.
This isn’t correct, actually. English is the only major language that has no formal regulators of the language, and Spanish is one of the most formally regulated.
Same in Mexico though in El Salvador it’s referred to beating someone up if spoken as a verb. I got really confused when a Salvadorean guy was telling me he fucked another guy only to find out it was actually in the context of a fight.
I think the e thing sounds fucking stupid, however if that makes people happy, so be it, language is supposed to evolve over time, the e is only annoying if you actively oppose to it (or are in a position where you’re not allowed to make mistakes)
This isn’t entirely true either. The adjective “binario” has to agree with the gender of what’s being talked about, either the grammatical gender of the noun or the natural gender of the person. A salient example could be the noun “piloto”. Just as adjectives inflect for gender so do pronouns, so you can say “el piloto” or “la piloto” depending on the natural gender of the person, and inflect adjectives accordingly. Grammatical gender and natural gender are both distict concepts that impact gender inflection in spanish.
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