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BananaTrifleViolin , to piracy in GOG basically acknowledges piracy in a meme

DRM-free doesn’t mean piracy. GOGs whole business model is built around selling games DRM free. I don’t pirate but I do use GOG where possible as I hate DRM - it punishes and inconveniences legitimate users for piracy and doesn’t even solve the problem. DRM is just an expensive waste of money for everyone involved.

mambabasa OP ,
@mambabasa@slrpnk.net avatar

To me, the meme acknowledges that GOG installers are shared in groups, which is piracy since the other people didn’t pay for it. (That doesn’t mean it’s bad btw.)

thedarkfly ,

Why wouldn’t the friends like it then?

DreitonLullaby ,

How is the meme acknowledging that GOG installers are shared in groups? This doesn’t say anything about sharing anything in a group, other than “My game has no DRM, and yours does”

LazaroFilm ,
@LazaroFilm@lemmy.world avatar

Make the pay option less shitty than pirating. That’s all it takes.

UnRelatedBurner ,

Gaben taught you well

Burn_The_Right ,

Half-Life Free confirmed!

ShadowCat ,

it punishes and inconveniences legitimate users for piracy and doesn’t even solve the problem.

IDK about that, the only person who can crack denuvo is empress and she doesn’t crack all games, so I guess it atleast reduces piracy for a while. I agree however that DRM shouldn’t exist.

SnotFlickerman ,
@SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

DRM exists for more than just games.

TheGalacticVoid ,

AFAIK there are devs who remove Denuvo as soon as their game gets cracked, and tbh I don’t have too many complaints about that system. That being said, I don’t own any games with Denuvo, so I don’t know why it’s hated so much.

MrPoopbutt ,

Because it reduces performance. There is no benefit to the consumer. Your game experience is measurably worse because of it.

stardust ,

Get a steam deck and you’ll see why.

TheGalacticVoid ,

How? Does the Steam Deck force Denuvo on everything or something?

Vash63 ,

No, and it runs denuvo games fine. It’s things like EAC or EA Anti-Cheat that break on Deck/Linux.

TheGalacticVoid ,

I think most people understand that DRM and Anti Cheat are done for 2 completely different reasons.

Vash63 ,

Well, in the context of the Steam Deck, DRM works fine and anti-cheats often don’t.

TheGalacticVoid ,

I have no idea why you’re talking about the Steam Deck and anti-cheat when the comment I replied to was strictly about Denuvo.

Vash63 ,

Because Stardust said “Get a Steam Deck and then you’ll see why” which makes no sense in the context of Denuvo DRM, hence it is most likely Stardust confusing anti cheat issues for DRM ones. Not that hard to figure out.

stardust , (edited )

I like to use steam deck when I travel. Denuvo can refuse to launch without internet connection to reactivate a license. Also if you exceed 5 activations in a day you can’t play the game for 24 hours. This includes switching which proton version you use to launch the game, which is sometimes necessary if something like the audio doesn’t work properly on the default.

www.reddit.com/r/SteamDeck/…/psa_for_denuvo/

TheGalacticVoid ,

Makes more sense. I had no idea that Denuvo was that unreasonable

stardust ,

Yeah, it’s something you shouldn’t notice if you always have internet connection, but if you start playing where you won’t always have internet connection that’s when problems pop up. That’s when you appreciate the DRM free games.

stardust ,

Enshitification of DRM with denuvo going subscription model has become an unexpected ally in DRM getting removed even if it doesn’t get cracked.

yamanii ,
@yamanii@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah, from the leaked Crytek contract it revealed that devs have to pay again every year or remove it, which means Sega is extremely hostile since they still pay for denuvo on years old games like Persona 5 Royal.

Virulent ,

The drm-free marketing that gog does has been successful, but it is just marketing. While It’s true that games sold on gog are drm-free, every game sold on gog that I’ve looked into is also drm-free on steam. The only real benefit is that the gog installers are more convenient for backups than using a steam back up tool.

Paradachshund ,

Not saying you’re wrong, but there’s a lot of peace of mind in knowing everything on the platform is drm free, rather than having to do some research. So it is marketing, but it’s also a promise of curation so to speak.

yamanii ,
@yamanii@lemmy.world avatar

No, Baldur’s Gate 3 is a cracked release on the steam version.

bountygiver ,

it’s a weird case where it only uses steam API and does not hard check it. It attempts to check if the currently associated steam account is allowed to play it and shuts down if you don’t, but does not do anything else if it can’t detect an account (such as if you have no steam) and launch normally.

Maven ,
@Maven@lemmy.world avatar

GOG is also a filter too. Everything in the whole store you know is DRM free when with other stores you have to check each game individually.

Steam is also a form of DRM in most cases though either way.

Black616Angel ,

How would you play a DRM-free game bought through steam without steam? (Genuine question)

lud ,

Steam isn’t DRM. They offer a (very weak and basic) DRM for free for developers to use but they don’t have too.

For a lot of games you can just install them using steam and then uninstall steam and the games will continue to work.

Virulent ,

You just run the executable

leave_it_blank ,

So it’s possible to download the installer through steam, store it somewhere and ten years later I can just start the installer without having steam on my system?

Asking out of curiosity, I don’t use steam, I never thought that would be possible?

Zoot ,
@Zoot@reddthat.com avatar

You can copy the entire game folder and run it that way, as long as the game is actually DRM free it should work just fine.

leave_it_blank ,

So no installer then? Or can you download that separately?

Zoot ,
@Zoot@reddthat.com avatar

You would use Steam as the installer, or you can buy it on GoG and they will give you an installer for the game. Entirely depends on what game you’re trying to copy.

leave_it_blank ,

Thank you! I have about 5 games on steam, so I haven’t installed it on my system. The only interesting one is Doom 2016, so for a moment I thought I could download the installer as a backup without having to use steam anymore in the future when I do want to play it again. Would have been nice. Thanks for clarifying!

lemmyvore ,

I don’t think it is because even Steam games without DRM are still modified to work with Steam for things like achievements. There may be games without DRM and without achievements but if a game has either of them it will not work without it.

Fisch ,
@Fisch@lemmy.ml avatar

I think they’ll still work without Steam, otherwise you couldn’t play them offline either

lemmyvore ,

They work without reaching the Steam online service, but they need Steam installed.

Fisch ,
@Fisch@lemmy.ml avatar

Yeah, that makes sense. Does kinda suck.

DreitonLullaby ,

You mustn’t have looked at many games then. As someone who 95% only buys games from GOG, and has a wishlist of 190+ games, the vast majority of the games on the wishlist have DRM in their Steam versions.

Buddahriffic ,

Yeah, anytime someone mentions just punishes users, I’m reminded of the time this was really driven home for me.

I was working for a company that did developed tools that worked adjacent to other software and needed to install one piece of software to test my component intended for that program. After using that software at work, I decided to also use it to generate data for a personal project I was doing for fun at home and pirated it.

At work, we obviously used a legit copy and had a business partnership with the company. Their DRM required a dongle and running server software on the machine with the dongle that would issue licenses to clients. I forget the specifics, but we had some problems and it took a few weeks of emailing back and forth with someone from support before I was actually able to get the software running.

At home, I just ran a crack and had it running the same day I decided to use it.

All their fancy DRM just turned into a pain in the ass for the legitimate use and a complete non-issue for those doing what it was intended to prevent in the first place.

bjoern_tantau , to memes in Uncanny Valley
@bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de avatar

It’s called “corpse”. Often riddled with diseases.

MissJinx ,
@MissJinx@lemmy.world avatar

maybe hairless chimps too. Those things are crazy

drolex ,

They will rip your dick out, Jamie send that video of jacked hairless chimps

MissJinx ,
@MissJinx@lemmy.world avatar

Your dick, your face… they’ll pretty much, as we say in my corner of the world, “Fuck your shit up”

Ragnarok314159 ,

Now, imagine the violence early human bought upon early chimps to become the dominant species but also make them shy away from us.

alcoholicorn ,

There’s a difference between a few humans throwing some rocks at something’s head and poking it with a sharp stick and what chimps do.

Ragnarok314159 ,

I think you missed the proverbial point. We likely slaughtered the chimps and put their heads on pikes. Chimps have nothing on the violence humans are capable of inflicting.

alcoholicorn ,

In scale? Yes. In brutality? Go look up chimp attacks.

feedum_sneedson ,

BUFFALKILL

alcoholicorn ,

Yeah the context is that many indigenous people depended on the buffalo for food.

It was basically the same as when Israel pours concrete down wells and burns olive groves that took centuries to get that productive. They knew for every buffalo they killed, an indian would starve.

That image is similar to the rooms full of luggage in Auschwitz in what it represents.

ours ,

Chimps kicked our weak asses off the trees. They should regret how that turned out for them.

School_Lunch ,

I remember a documentary about a famous northwest passage expedition that was never seen again. One of the inuit people they talked to during an investigation claimed they found a boat, and in the captain’s quarters they found a body in the bed with a big smile on its face. That would be absolutely terrifying, but apparently that’s what naturally happens to corpses when their lips and gums receed.

Kosta554 ,
@Kosta554@feddit.nl avatar

Damn, now i want to know!

OldManBOMBIN ,

sfl

Caboose12000 ,

You’ve just ruined my night. I screamed. My phone was like an inch from my face and I was all tucked into bed. That triggered something primaly unsettling for me. Thank you

OldManBOMBIN ,

You’re welcome.

Caboose12000 ,

I trusted you

OldManBOMBIN ,

You were the best Blue.

Shard ,

Franklin’s last expedition

FrostyCaveman ,

At least he died happy

Classy ,

“Oh for just one time, I would take the Northwest Passage…”

Grandwolf319 ,

Damn, got to listen to it now…

DevCat ,
@DevCat@lemmy.world avatar

It also covers those who are not biologically fit to be mates. Various conditions can appear as physical traits.

Amanuet ,

You’re right though, as soon as someone dies, there’s something not right at all about how they look. They don’t look asleep, they look uncanny valley.

Dippy ,

Or perhaps whatever animal killed your friend is still nearby. Maybe it’s still hungry, or maybe it feels it’s territory is still underappreciated.

Baizey ,

Its territory is underappreciated?

Dippy ,

Yeah, some asshole walks through your territory, doesn’t seem like it’s being appreciated that the territory is yours

intensely_human ,

There might be a monster with hurt fee fees in the bushes

NeutralFlame , to technology in Musk's new idea

Twitter had a great thing going on. It was not perfect but I never thought it would get absolutely ruined in such a short amount of time

phoneymouse ,

Just like a year ago it was considered an essential part of modern discourse and society. The media was heavily dependent on Twitter. Now, Twitter has lost a lot of influence.

If Elon had simply kept his stupid mouth shut, he wouldn’t have been forced to buy the company, let alone for such a high price. Once purchased, if he had been less of a maniac and just managed Twitter in a boring way that maintained the status quo, then it would still be better off today than it currently is. Everything Elon has done has made the company less valuable and driven away users.

downpunxx ,
@downpunxx@kbin.social avatar

on purpose. by design. with intent.

FirmRip ,
@FirmRip@lemmy.world avatar

But what if he’s just a fucking idiot?

FaceDeer ,
@FaceDeer@kbin.social avatar

It's possible that Musk is good at some things and not good at others, but his success at those things he's good at have caused him to think he's good at everything.

xtr0n ,

Becoming a billionaire requires winning so many dice rolls that it’s difficult (impossible?) to really understand that you can lose sometimes.

instamat ,

That’s the Techius Bromus Effect. They get too much smoke blown up their asses that they eventually believe they’re capable of solving every problem.

I made up the term but the idea is true.

jtk ,
@jtk@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Hanlon’s razor is reserved for people without a life long rap sheet of blatant malice.

ellesper ,
@ellesper@lemmy.world avatar

For what it’s worth, I think Elon is both evil and an idiot.

sol ,

Evil yes, so much that he’s making you believe they are just some idiot

BangelaQuirkel ,

Then it’s unintelligent design.

sol ,

They wouldn’t be the richest men in the world then.

4am ,
@4am@lemmy.world avatar

You don’t think it takes a fucking idiot to be forced into spending 44 billion dollars, some of it other people’s money, to purposely destroy a social media platform because you (and the people who’s money you used) were upset how critical said platform was of you?

aruraios ,
@aruraios@kbin.social avatar

It just works.

squiblet ,
@squiblet@kbin.social avatar

Ever since he bought it and started basically wrecking the place, I've suspected that his goal has been to reduce the usefulness of Twitter to non-conservatives. Obviously he has a incredibly massive stick up his ass regarding politics, and Twitter failing would mean basically nothing to him personally.

Some people would call that a conspiracy theory or cite maxims such as 'never attribute to malice what could be attributed to incompetence" but I could find some counter-maxims I bet.

conductor ,

No way he lost all that money on purpose. He’s just arrogant and makes stupid decisions.

curryandbeans ,

For what purpose?

PatFussy ,

I dont understand this sentiment. When Jack Dorsey sold twitter he wanted it delisted so someone could make it more publicly owned. He thought Elon could do that and so it was sold. Its essentially the opposite of what Reddit is trying to do.

If Elon comes in amd says “this company needs to change or else it wont survive” i would believe that. People are essentially mad that the company doesnt have investor funding.

SoNick ,

@PatFussy People are essentially mad that the company doesnt have investor funding.

lolwhat. That is not the issue anyone has, have you been paying even the slightest bit of attention?!
@BlackRose @NeutralFlame @phoneymouse

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Sorry, you believe what Elon Musk says about anything at this point?

PatFussy ,

Dorsey sold Twitter for a reason. It wasmt money. You tell me why he thought Elon was the best option

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Why wasn’t it money? Are you saying he isn’t a greedy billionaire like all of the other tech CEOs?

PatFussy ,

Twitter wasnt profitable and had net losses as it was losing hundreds of millions a year. Dorsey wanted to make twitter profitable while making it more inclusive and trusted. At the time he saw Elon as the best leader based on how he had led Tesla.

Dorsey only held about 2% of the company. The only winners on that sale were the investors. All i was trying to say is if Elon had done nothing, the only winners would have been investors.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

You are implying that Dorsey picked Musk to take over Twitter. He didn’t. Musk tried to do a pump-and-dump like he always does and he fucked around and found out. He even tried to back out of buying it. You’re basically telling me to ignore the whole history of the lead-up to Musk’s purchase in exchange for some conspiracy theory involving Jack Dorsey that doesn’t even make sense.

PatFussy ,

Sure Dorsey didnt single Elon out but he did say during the takeover that he believed he was the right one. Maybe that was for money but who the hell knows.

Also, Elon tried backing out because the board refused Elons plans to get rid of spam bots. This was one for Elons major plans to revitalize twitter. Not a conspiracy theory here.

Wayward ,

If Musk just shut his face and kept doing his thing, he would have been a historic figure. Not Edison or Tesla famous, but like an Alexander Bell tier name sure. Especially if his Mars plans panned out. But dude wanted to be Tony Stark and forgot that Stark was charming and likable (in the movies at least) and he… is not.

FuglyDuck ,
@FuglyDuck@lemmy.world avatar

Not really. Not by any stretch of the imagination. He’s more of a Carnegie type. except Carnegie managed to convince people he was actually a good person. (his philanthropy is responsible for a LOT of the libraries. But also, he came down hard when it came to union busting, and a lot of his dirty work was done by Henry Frick.)

In any case, the reality is, his prior ‘good’ reputation- including for all things you’re saying he’s going to be famous for doing- is more the result of having a good PR staff keep him looking … like that. he’s not a founder of Tesla. he’s not a brilliant engineer (or a brilliant anything else.) he’s just a rich guy tossing money around to make it grow.

Ryantific_theory ,

I mean, he had a genuinely good reputation prior to the big money and PR back in 2012-ish. I followed him because I love space stuff, and he was this awkward nerd pushing for electric cars, solar power, and reusable rockets, which were so insane it was basically considered impossible. Most of his early twitter conversations were discussing rocket details with other space nerds, pulling videos of RUDs on request, and sharing some of the hidden numbers that we’d normally never have access to. He was genuinely involved in the early years at SpaceX.

Up until he called the guy who saved the cave children a pedo, he was basically held up as one of the individuals who would be responsible for changing the world for the better. An actual example of capitalism being used to push society forward. Then it was a steady downward spiral, but early Elon was basically just a nerd that liked rockets and green tech. Had he stuck in that lane, and not been greedy about squeezing every penny of profit out of Tesla workers, he’d probably still be considered the “real life Iron Man” instead of another classic example of how capitalists are consumed by greed.

So, don’t get me wrong, I am deeply disappointed in what he’s decided to do with himself, but he was a legitimately popular figure and led SpaceX to face off against the military-industrial space industry and break a monopoly that’s been in place for half a century. The myth was exaggerated, but his initial popularity was earned before being wasted.

LexiconDexicon ,

I’m sorry but only delusional 12 year olds ever believed Muskrat was anything but an attention whore, all of us engineers saw right through the act

Ryantific_theory ,

Lol, I’m glad you were too cool for school, but his twitter conversations were actual sources used by Ars in the early days, which regularly called on actual rocket scientists. More than that, they were correct, so I’m not entirely sure what you were seeing through. He definitely became an attention whore by the time he started posting memes, but just because somebody became a garbage human being doesn’t mean everything they touched is trash.

SpaceX is a treasure, and I’ll fight anyone who says otherwise.

kanathan ,

Yep, I remember years ago when at a national student aerospace conference, attending a small talk by some guy named Elon Musk about his fairly new company, SpaceX. At this point I think they had only launched one (failed) rocket. He was a bit awkward, but seemed passionate about his Mars vision, and did a great job answering a bunch of technical questions by a group of aerospace engineering students. A lot of us were skeptical of him and his company, but more from the standpoint of aerospace being hard for even the least aspirational companies to succeed in.

Later when I starting hearing more about SpaceX I learned that Elon was also an asshole as a manager, but he still came across at least as being technically competent. And he was great at getting funding and driving excitement in an industry that desperately needed it. While there were already some cracks showing in his public image, it was only around the time of that sub rescue pedo incident where that erratic edgelord and asshole behavior became too much too ignore for myself and other people I know.

4am ,
@4am@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah? Then why didn’t all the engineers decry him right then and there? Didn’t see much talk calling him out. Ya’ll just let that shit ride? Especially seeing the popularity he was building?

dragontamer ,

You ever look at his Hyperloop proposal from 2014?

Its not even an engineering CAD drawing. Its three lolipops drawn on FEA (I don’t think even with ANSYS but some cheaper program instead…) with Elon Musk saying that its simulations for an earthquake.

It was hilariously bad. All the engineers I knew of the Hyperloop proposal told me that Elon Musk was an idiot back then.

zeppo ,
@zeppo@lemmy.world avatar

Squeezing every penny of profit from workers is awful of course, but pretty much par for the course. Where he went wrong was in being a sad and desperate acting attention whore and never shutting the fuck up, while pushing ideas, people and viewpoints that a large amount of people find objectionable. It’s what make people like Zuckerberg or Spez not seem quite as douchey. If they tried to make themselves the #1 star on their platforms they’d probably end up embarrassing themselves too, but they mercifully don’t.

Hopps ,
@Hopps@lemmy.world avatar

This is a great summary of the fall of Elon Musk. I admired him too years ago until he went off the rails. RIP to the better decisions and the their benefits that this man could have made.

azuth ,

Especially if his Mars plans panned out.

His Mars plan cannot pan out, no more than using rockets in place of airplanes for international travel.

The man is a compulsive attention seeker. He owns some companies that legitimately are good at what they do, arguably pioneers in their field. It’s not enough for him. SpaceX being the leading rocket launcher is not enough for him. Doing something already possible, even if done many times better or cheaper is not flashy enough for him. He needs to go to Mars.

The problem with that is that he is probably going to at least destroy the companies having them chasing his pie in the sky ideas as well as possibly having people die (depending on how far along he manages to take some of his plans).

Ryantific_theory ,

There’s nothing wrong with SpaceX’s Mars launch plan, and while the rocket travel plan is niche (read: ultra rich), it’s viable assuming Starship winds up hitting the same reliability levels as airplanes. Course, worst thing that happens is a couple hundred millionaires and billionaires die, so… I see no downsides lol.

Obviously, I’m not gonna defend Elon himself, but sending a Super Heavy to Mars isn’t some grand project like it would be for NASA. For one, other than the engines it only takes a couple of months to build a new booster and Starship, and for two it would take a minimum of 6 months for the Starship to reach Mars after launch (from the optimal window), essentially tying up a single Starship. It also tests low gravity propulsive landing, which is being designed for one of the Artemis landers, as well as the fuel conversion process using solar power to convert CO2 into methane rocket fuel. Which would greatly simplify future NASA projects for Mars.

I doubt there would be a NASA mission on an untested launch platform, but the lack of payload is also what makes it so cheap. They might toss some projects as a just in case, but it’s otherwise an interplanetary proof of concept. I might hate Elon, but SpaceX is currently the best rocket company around, with the Super Heavy likely to make the Space Launch System obsolete the moment it’s certified for government launches.

azuth ,

If you mean launching a rocket to Mars, yes eventually they will be able to do that. That is not what Musk’s bullshit. It’s a permanent base with people on Mars.

The rocket travel plan is not niche, it’s impossible. Sound (environmental) concerns, refueling time cutting into the flight time benefit on turnover, Gs exerted on launch etc. Moreover Musk billed it as a regular service not a “dive to Titanic” kind of activity for billionaires.

It’s also impossible to make a rocket as reliable as a plane. If you seriously consider that possible I cannot argue with you on any other point. Just the planes ability to land and maneuver unpowered makes it much more safer and reliable. The nature of it’s fuel itself makes it much safer and reliable.

Starship/SuperHeavy is not ready. Engine production rate is a huge problem and they need a lot of them per vehicle. They also currently are unreliable with quite a few failures on the last launch. Some might be a result of the first failing but there were at least two clusters of failure, suggesting at least two independent failures.

So when they get SS/SH working the best thing to do would be to take government contracts, or fly Starlink satellites up if it’s profitable. But yeah sending a rocket to Mars for free is exactly the kind of stunt I would expect Musk to do. Like demanding the launch to be on 4/20.

riskable ,
@riskable@programming.dev avatar

Oh don’t be so hard on the idea… I think we should encourage Musk to launch himself and other billionaires to Mars 💪

azuth ,

Unfortunately I don’t think he is the guy to actually put himself in harm’s way l.

rm_dash_r_star ,
@rm_dash_r_star@lemm.ee avatar

That is not what Musk’s bullshit. It’s a permanent base with people on Mars.

I once watched a press conference with him talking about his plans for SpaceX. The responses he gave about human factors were making cuckoo clock sounds. When asked about the issue of solar radiation exposure his response was along the lines of we don’t need to worry about that. What!? That’s one of the major engineering and safety issues in long duration space flight and habitation. You’ve not even thought about it? So basically he’ll be sending people into space with no concern about turning them into crispy critters.

zeppo ,
@zeppo@lemmy.world avatar

I thought what he said about his new AI company was hilarious. His new AI company seeks to ‘understand the true nature of the universe’. Just jaw droppingly pretentious, and it is so on-brand for him, as techno-Jesus. Just having a normal AI company isn’t enough - it has to be accomplishing something ridiculous.

Llewellyn ,
@Llewellyn@lemmy.ml avatar

But Stark was so arrogant

LexiconDexicon ,

Out of all the insane made up things in comic books, a “billionaire with a heart of gold” is the least believable

SuddenDownpour ,

forgot that Stark was charming and likable (in the movies at least)

But is he, really? I haven’t watched much Marvel but I distinctly remember Tony Stark as a jerk, and that’s even dismissing his bullshit ideology of

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Sarcastik ,

That’s kinda the point of his character ark. It takes till the end for him to really show us who he is deep down. Also, RDJ nailed the balance of ego and redeeming qualities.

But Elon is not the hero of any story. He’s the evil child playing with a magnifying glass on an anthill and he views everyone but him as an ant.

Fuck Elon and I can’t wait till the Saudis come to collect on that $44B they loaned him.

SuddenDownpour ,

Fuck Elon and I can’t wait till the Saudis come to collect on that $44B they loaned him.

Well, this is news to me. The Saudis owning Tesla is definitely going to be a bitter joke.

Sarcastik ,

Saudi Group is the 2nd largest investor in Elon’s buyout and the largest single entity investor.

Basically America’s billionaire class (aka Elon’s alt right clubhouse gang), now are in the pockets on the evil empire with the single worst human ethics record in modern day society.

If that doesn’t scare the shit out of you, I don’t know what will.

aljazeera.com/…/saudis-kingdom-holding-company-to…

anlumo ,

No, once purchased, the problems were already insurmountable. The company was bought on company debt, meaning that it was in deep shit on day 1 of him owning it. It wasn’t profitable before that move, and adding a ton of debt didn’t improve the situation.

All moves Musk did are essentially cost-cutting measures (except for the ones where he’s trying to establish it as a social network for Nazis).

zeppo ,
@zeppo@lemmy.world avatar

Firing 75% of the staff works as cost cutting but is very short-sighted. Acting like an attention-starved “fellow kids!!” edgelord and ruining the Verified program wasn’t cost cutting. And then, his edgelordness led to losing 60-70% of ad revenue, which surely nullified any legitimate cost cutting attempts.

anlumo ,

There was a method behind these things, which are the exception I mentioned. He removed the moderation staff, because he wanted to encourage Nazi content on the platform, and moderators are bad for that. The paid verified program meant that only fans of him and Nazis would pay money and thus be verified, so he could legitimately amplify their voice on the platform.

The problem he ran into is that advertisers don’t like their ads next to Nazi propaganda, so now revenue is down.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

I really don’t understand why he doesn’t see that Coca-Cola doesn’t want their product next to some guy just posting the N-word over and over.

sol ,

He’s one of the richest men in the world, you are not even a billionare. Can you really point out that his business is off?

The guy is doing exactly what they want to do, if they are letting the platform fall off like that is because that’s what their goal is. They build monopolies.

Rubezahl ,

Do you even billionaire, bro?

HughJanus ,

if he had been less of a maniac and just managed Twitter in a boring way that maintained the status quo, then it would still be better off today

The problem is Twitter has almost never been profitable. Changing nothing would have ensured that trend. Especially in this economy.

Thorny_Thicket , (edited )

It’s interesting how everyone keeps saying it’s ruined while I personally don’t notice any difference. If I didn’t read posts about it on reddit/lemmy I wouldn’t know any changes have been made

Edit: I wonder what the downvotes are for?

Ds4zkMjT ,
@Ds4zkMjT@lemmy.world avatar

Pushing blue checks to the top of every comment thread has amplified the worst voices on the platform.

Thorny_Thicket ,

If that really is so then that’s quite a stupid feature. I don’t personally read comment threads there so I haven’t noticed

klyde ,
@klyde@lemmy.world avatar

Oh it’s very true. No badges are at the very bottom every single time. Stupid comments with blue badges are always top.

Thorny_Thicket ,

I wonder if there’s some add-on that automatically filters out comments from blue checks. That way they’d be self-selecting themselves out of our feeds

tony ,
supersonicsonarradar ,

Can you describe how it’s been absolutely ruined?

Shikadi ,

No way to verify accounts, weird paywalling, pay for views, losing tons of money, mostly just that

hydro033 ,

It was always losing tons of money. Nothing changed there.

squiblet ,
@squiblet@kbin.social avatar

The amount of money it's losing now is a LOT more. Advertising is down 70%, so someone definitely noticed a difference. Also they are now $13 billion in debt, owing a billion a year just on interest.

KiloPapa ,

And like Reddit, they shut down the 3rd party apps that made it more pleasant to use, especially on mobile. I didn’t realize how shitty native Twitter is until I lost Tweetbot.

squiblet ,
@squiblet@kbin.social avatar

Sorting Elon stans to the top of reply chains is a negative change. Hate speech is now only regulated for Liberals. Also, they ruined the entire concept of verification.

SoNick ,

@supersonicsonarradar

comment history shows this is the user's only comment

Well shit, astroturfing has made its way here

@BlackRose @NeutralFlame

sj_zero ,

Companies change hands. Governments change parties. People seem to forget that, and they want to hand absolute power over to their buddies in companies or in the government, with no regard for those facts.

Remember what happened here, and know that it can happen again at any time.

0000000nowhere ,

Twitter was a cesspool, good riddance

MonkCanatella ,

It’s probably because all the pictures of Elon and this lain would post. I’m sure he’s destroying it out of ego

bleistift2 , to lemmyshitpost in efficiency
snooggums ,
@snooggums@midwest.social avatar

SMB had game file size limitations in the dozens of kilobytes range.

bruhduh ,
@bruhduh@lemmy.world avatar

Modern AAA games need optimisations too

PeterPoopshit ,

Optimization? Pffffft. Nvidia probably pays game developers to make unoptimized games just to boost gpu sales.

bruhduh ,
@bruhduh@lemmy.world avatar
snooggums ,
@snooggums@midwest.social avatar

Yes, but not ‘every rock is identical’ optimization like back then.

WarmSoda ,

You’d be surprised

Agent641 ,

Laughs in Cities: Skylines 2

Jerkface ,

For comparison, that screenshot is 342kb, and Super Mario Bros is 40kb. The screenshot is more than 8.5 times bigger than the game it comes from.

dhtseany ,

I like this math lesson

sus ,

I managed to recreate almost the same screenshot in 5kb (and with much less compression artifacts!)

https://programming.dev/pictrs/image/4067e190-3764-4bce-a413-f98e39c53754.png

before adding the text and circles it was only 1.6kb

it’s a case where jpeg compression ironically results in the picture getting 60x larger and more blurry because everyone recompresses the images and jpeg is designed for large photos and not pixel art

Valmond ,

Use png and IDK I don’t remember which cmd line soft but it stripped out unused colors and compressed images like that one hard.

That, without the red lines and circles, and without jpeg jitter should be like 1kb. Or less less.

Now, as an oldtimer, when you load that 1kb image up, it will still take like 640x320 bytes (it was all 8bit) so 200KB of RAM. But back in the day I guess it was more like the original GB 160x144 so 22.5KB RAM needed to show that image.

Did it work like that?

No, because cartridges didn’t have a lot of space, and the consoles didn’t have much RAM, so you used tiles. You had a tile map image, each tile was 8x8 pixels pointing to a palette (so you could use 4-bits for the color. More or less so, there were a lot of ‘modes’). Each tile had a number and your screen was some 20x18 tiles x 1 byte numbers, designing the ‘tile’ to be shown at that particular position of the screen.

All done by hardware so way fast!

To make the scrolling run you had a ‘delta’ pixels to slightly move the “screen” around.

Fun times.

Time to go to bed 😪😴

s_s ,

pngcrush

Revan343 ,

ROM Cartridges like that were also basically as fast as RAM, and mapped into system memory, so you could reference things directly instead of having to load things to RAM first like off a disc

Valmond ,

Yes yes! But wasn’t there some limit, like if you had a 1Mbit cartridge you still had to shuffle the data around? Or was it just a penalty to map a different chunk of memory?

My memory is sure not that fast or reliable:-)

Notorious_handholder ,

Not the guy you replied too, and my memory is also fuzzy, but I always love how crazy and analog nes hardware was. Im like 70% sure that later in the nes lifespan they made it to where cartridges had more rom and could shuffle the data banks/tables around and that the nes could only process something like 32kb at a time I think? So they would just swap around the data sets depending on when they where needed.

Almost like one of those choose your own adventure books… Im probably horribly wrong in that summary and analogy though. It’s been years since I last got a refresher on nes tricks lol

Lojcs ,

Here’s the same image in 3.8kb (lossless jxl):

https://files.catbox.moe/03j2i4.jxl

Interestingly, lossy jxl is larger (59kb):

https://files.catbox.moe/5m1ujx.jxl

starman2112 ,
@starman2112@sh.itjust.works avatar

What I would give to have modern devs work that hard to reduce file sizes

SpaceCowboy ,
@SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca avatar

Is it more than the price of a hard drive?

starman2112 ,
@starman2112@sh.itjust.works avatar

For the sake of all my homies with data caps and limited hard drive funds, I would gladly give more than it costs me personally

ichbinjasokreativ ,

Games on ssds benefit from faster load times. Don’t put your games on spinning metal.

stringere ,

Because most of the time and energy are spent trying to hold on and not be tossed off by centripetal force?

Klear ,

Exactly.

ininewcrow , to lemmyshitpost in Cast out from the jungle / With no rations or canteen
@ininewcrow@lemmy.ca avatar

Once the stove exhausts most of it’s hydrogen fuel, the stove will enter it’s Red Giant phase and grow to the size of a small car.

TheRealKuni ,

This comment makes me wish I could gild comments on Lemmy.

kattenluik ,

That’s exactly what I was missing: giant distracting icons that flash on a comment I was going to read anyways!

TheRealKuni ,

Nah, forget the stupid additional awards they added. Just the good ol’ gold. It was a great idea to help pay for servers before they corrupted it seeking profit.

fossilesque ,
@fossilesque@mander.xyz avatar

Lemmings are herbivorous, give them a leaf. 🥬

ArcaneSlime ,

This implies carnivores and/or omnivores eat gold.

Wait, do you think non-lemmings are dragons?

ilikecats , to memes in We've all just got to do our part!

That’s a standard problem with ecology. I can’t use a plastic straw which has negligible impact but fishing industry can dump 640,000 tonnes of plastic every year and that’s fine. Let’s just ignore that.

You go on holiday once a year with the efficient normal flight - bad guy. Ritch person uses private jet for no good reason - that’s normal. Let’s ignore those emissions and create special rules for the airlines so they don’t have to worry about it too much.

Private jets pollution doubled during one year and it’s probably the worst way to travel for the environment but I hope you have spent your life savings for a slightly better car to compensate that. We can’t inconvenience ritch people, right?

Sanctus ,
@Sanctus@lemmy.world avatar

It is this way because the rich people control everything. They won’t lift a finger to change if they think they can scam 10,000,000 people into lives of utter inconvencience and guilt to “offset” their own pollution. Hint; every one of us could live in caves and recycle our everything with stillsuits and the rich’s portion would just expand to fill the voids we left. This isn’t a game with a high score. The hands of the many must join as one to cross the river of life.

nondescripthandle , (edited )

The hands of the many must join as one to cross the river

Nature, nurture, heaven and home

Sanctus ,
@Sanctus@lemmy.world avatar

Sum of all, and by them, driven

Wogi ,

I have a plan. Bear with me here. Requires only a cursory understanding of basic construction and late 18th century French revolutionary methods.

Agrivar ,

I’m a woodworker by trade! Would my skills be of any use in this endeavor?

MrVilliam ,

A woodworker who actively dislikes the hypocritical and predatory exploitation of lower class people and who is willing to do his part to save us? Are you Jesus?

nonfuinoncuro ,
elfahor ,

The French Revolution was mostly a bourgeois revolution tho.

MNByChoice ,

I get confused. bourgeois = middle class
proletariat = working class

What is the name for the rich?

bort ,

bourgeois = middle class

iirc bourgeois is non-aristocratic upper class. But i guess it depends heavily on the context

MNByChoice , (edited )

You could be right.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bourgeoisie

The bourgeoisie are a class of business owners and merchants which emerged in the Late Middle Ages, originally as a “middle class” between peasantry and aristocracy.

It is possible that the meaning of “middle class” has changed. So Musk is middle class, but the lawyer or pizza shop owner are not.

Edit: shit, I should have read farther. Bourgeois is used in multiple ideologies.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communism

The two classes are the proletariat, who make up the majority of the population within society and must sell their labor power to survive, and the bourgeoisie, a small minority that derives profit from employing the working class through private ownership of the means of production.

Wogi ,

There’s only two classes. Working and wealthy.

If you can’t afford to live without working, them you’re working class. If you could quit your job and maintain a decent lifestyle, you’re not working class anymore.

Croquette ,

Why not have fun a make a YouTube video of a Rube Goldberg machine that ends with a recreation of Itchy and Scratchy scene.

MNByChoice ,

I didn’t think the wood part is the problem. The big metal bit is a real head scratcher.

xenoclast ,

I believe the trickier part is physically getting our hands on them

SlopppyEngineer , (edited )

It’s why all carbon should be a currency distributed to all people like an UBI. Let’s say sustainable amount of CO2 emissions is 8 billion ton and there are 8 billion people, so everybody gets 1 ton per year. You want to pull oil it if the ground, pay in CO2 coin and ask the buyer to pay in turn. Rich guy wants to fly a private jet, they pay the oil producer. Not enough coin, buy with dollars from someone poor that drives a bike and has excess CO2 coins.

It seems fair to me. Everybody is equal, it keeps the market intact while keeping capitalism within sustainable emissions and distributes some wealth.

Of course no rich guy or oil producer is going to accept that, at least not until some people figuratively start building the wooden platform and sharpen the blade to a razor edge.

Sanctus ,
@Sanctus@lemmy.world avatar

The environment does not take markets into account and it never will. This consumption will never be sustainable. Our entire ecosystem did not evolve with capitalism or industrial needs in mind. There will be a point where we cannot extract anymore resources without every system collapsing. You can’t tie all your resources up into consumer products and military industrial complexes without major drawbacks to everything else. And we will always need more in this current system, and there is never a point where more is enough. You’ll never hear “okay, everyone has a smartphone, shut the factory down.”

lolrightythen ,

It’s fun stuff, right?? I’ve never been able to conceive why the ultra wealthy would want to let the peasants eventually die off.

Perhaps there are currently more peasants than they require? Was Ritchie Rich just waiting until AI drones became advanced enough to serve them properly?

My limited experience with wealthy folk (prob not even the top 15%) is that they like to feel superior by comparison. Some may be intelligent. Most are educated well even if they lack any aptitude.

My best guess is that they lack wisdom or any semblance of awareness that an aristocracy is stagnant. The things that live on our planet have had to struggle and adapt to survive. At some (small and meek) level, they fuel the forces that would oppose them.

It’s not actually fun stuff. I was joshing. I doubt we get to create the United Federation of Planets in the future. I would be ecstatic if that statement was proven wrong.

Patches ,

How to make Carbon Taxes even more worthless.

Make it so the poorest homeless Junkie can make $5 to sell his “Carbon”. Drive the price of Carbon down to nothing because rich people can always make you more desperate.

How about we don’t involve the system that is actively destroying the planet - into the system meant to save it.

psivchaz ,

It’s not entirely unlike my plan: No more externalities. That’s the big problem with the environment and with a bunch of other things. Economists call it an “externality” when the things you’re doing have side effects that you don’t have to account for, such as pollution.

The thing is, we let industry and capital get away with it for a long time. And there’s no doubt that fixing it would also impact people. If the cost of properly disposing of a tire was built into the price of the tire, it would be passed along to customers. But it’s the only way to rehabilitate ANY system that uses currency.

Semi_Hemi_Demigod ,
@Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world avatar

every one of us could live in caves and recycle our everything with stillsuits

I wish this was an option

lolrightythen ,

pre edit: this is just a pointless rant. Your time is precious. Consider skipping it

Please don’t take my statement as arguing against your point (I like where you are coming from).

I don’t even need sources, I rarely believe metrics in the first place because it is so difficult to conceive and even harder to conduct studies at this scale. This isn’t even a possibility in my mind, but:

If everyone that wasn’t in the global top 10% of wealth went full Fremen, would the problem truly continue to exist? I doubt it because much of the much industry owned by our increasingly indulgent hoarders wouldn’t be necessary. There wouldn’t be regular folks to make or buy the product. We’d be hiding under the sand in a cave while drinking our own pee.

I’m not knocking it - I haven’t tried it. All at once, anyways.

The gluttonous upper crust would still be jetting to the poles and burning tires for light, but I feel like that would be a much smaller burden on our planet’s ability to support life as we’ve known it than industry on a massive global scale.

I don’t know what my point is exactly. I don’t think I believe we’ll find a workable solution without a cataclysm. Let’s go with: selfish assholes are gonna earn their title every time. Regular folks shouldn’t be told that their combined efforts won’t put a dent in the problem. The ultra rich process nature into poison in order to gain more wealth and power over their peasants. Weakening public education and access to healthcare helps them sell their low quality, single use poisonous trinkets. Having a bunch of money isn’t useful if there aren’t a lot of folks that have little or even less money. Power, money, knowledge - resource - however you want to frame it.

But then the rich could just overpopulate and use their least favorite offspring as peasants…

Ugh. I should just delete this comment as I don’t know what my central statement is. I am certainly not disagreeing. Maybe its that we shouldnt accept futility even though our efforts may truly be futile. To encourage integrity and contentment among our masses. It’s very possible for the inhabitants to overcome our downward trend - but if we end up failing, there is still no reason we should accept defeat and be the poor, uneducated, meager servants they see us as.

Fuck the powers that don’t respect every life equally. Even if resistance isn’t effective, I’d rather suffer than accept a darker future. (I won’t have kids. Easy for me to say)

Ugh. Sorry if anyone reads this. I just needed to vent I guess. Thanks for being interested and making the post and conversation. Be well all

brandocorp ,

I appreciated your rant. I don’t really know what I’m talking about, so take this all with a grain of salt.

What you’re sort of describing sounds like a boycott of our capitalist system. In theory, if we all could be self-sustainable and didn’t need to participate in the current system just to survive, then I think it would collapse. How could it not? The billionaires are billionaires because we give up our time and labor for currency which we then reinvest in a system which transfers most of that currency to a select few at the top. If we all stopped participating where would the billionaires get their billions, and what would they even spend it on, if not our labor or products produced by our labor?

I can only speak for where I live but this kind of organizational boycott of the system isn’t really likely to happen anytime soon. It’s too difficult to organize that number of people into non-participation especially when there are not really any alternatives. It’s not even easy to get people to give up listening to a certain artist’s music if they’ve done a terrible thing. People are living shitty or difficult lives and need their creature comforts just to mentally get by. I don’t blame them. There would have to be a viable, functioning alternative already in place which could absorb the needs of a massive number of people. It would take cooperation and compassion, and I guess I just don’t see that in the cards.

Even if we did, how long would it last until the power hungry manipulated their way into building another version of the same system?

Sanctus ,
@Sanctus@lemmy.world avatar

What do you have to offer but the water of your bodies? You’re right. If everyone walked away. If you couldn’t sell people a t-shirt with a cat’s asshole and a stupid slogan on it, there wouldn’t be an industry because there’d be no customers. But thats the issue, where we came from fucking sucked. Children died as often as they lived in every community. But what difference does it make? Its hard to tell. My kids sleep peacefully while Palestinian and Yemeni children are viciously murdered by world powers. So I agree with you. Fuck this. Leave your cities. Have an affair with the Earth and praise Shai-hulud. Would I rather cut my teeth experiencing the reality of life, or extend that percieved comfort to give 4000 people control over billions? Its a hard question. We don’t truly know the hardships we would experience. I mean Fremen call their homes a seitch, a meeting place in a time of danger, they are accustomed to war and being hunted. I don’t want that for my kids and everyone else that still breathes with compassion for others. Though, the current option seems to be surrending to the disgusting forces at the helm, to which my heart says it’d rather die, and it is in a way.

Anyway, clothes shouldn’t be mass produced, lets learn how to make them again. Theres plenty of industries we could get by without if we were allowed to live as a community of people instead of strangers in nearby boxes. I thought I’d answer your rant with a rant of my own because I love our advancements but I hate the intentional suffering of our world. Suffering does not bring merit, suffering is not necessary for growth. All this suffering apologia makes me sick. We are better than this. Mankind is betfer than this. And more people can feel it on the inside now than ever before, we just don’t know what to do, or what happens after.

Kecessa ,

Private jets is a very small part of airplane pollution and four people travelling in a Chevy Suburban with a big V8 actually use less fuel per km per passenger than the big passenger airplanes use per km per passenger. That’s not even taking non CO2 pollution into consideration.

People in general rely on airplanes way too much, may it be for personal travel or to get shit shipped to them ASAP, it’s not just a rich people issue.

phdepressed ,

That’s part of why we need viable rail travel in the US.

genie ,

What are we going to do, build high speed rail!? A technology so advanced that China alone has enough track in active operation to traverse the US over 13 times as of three years ago? I dunno, seems like a gamble

phdepressed ,

I want to laugh but it hurts.

Zehzin ,
@Zehzin@lemmy.world avatar

Screw that oldass great wall, this is the best thing that flows in a complex system throughout China (behind the Yangtse River).

ilikecats ,

AI disagrees but yeah. We need more trains

Private planes emit significantly more CO2 than passenger planes per passenger. Here’s why:

  • Fewer passengers: Private jets are designed to carry a small number of people, often just a handful. Passenger planes, on the other hand, can carry hundreds of passengers. This means the emissions from a private jet are spread out among far fewer people.
  • More frequent takeoffs and landings: Private jets often take off and land from smaller airports, which can mean shorter flights. Takeoff and landing are the most fuel-intensive parts of a flight, so these short trips contribute disproportionately to a private jet’s CO2 emissions.

Studies estimate that private jets emit 5 to 14 times more CO2 per passenger compared to commercial airlines [Transport & Environment].

Kecessa ,

Private planes emit significantly more CO2 than passenger planes per passenger.

Read my message again, I never said they don’t. They still represent an insignificant proportion of air traffic emissions.

Imgonnatrythis ,

But there are so many more poors. If we all do our very best we can come close to breaking even with the damage done by the rich and mega corporations and help alleviate them of any guilt they might otherwise experience.

Evotech ,

Yeah let’s not do anything because something else is worse.

In just the U.S. alone, one estimate suggests 500 million straws are used every single day. One study published earlier this year estimated as many as 8.3 billion plastic straws pollute the world’s beaches. In the U.K., at least 4.4 billion straws are estimated to be thrown away annually.

Wogi ,

Imagine all of those straws in a single pile. 3000 tons of straws.

Now imagine a pile 200 times larger. That’s what the fishing industry is doing.

We’re moving sand piles while they’re building pyramids.

starman2112 ,
@starman2112@sh.itjust.works avatar

The fishing industry is a fucking eldritch abomination. It puts everything else to shame. Fun fact, we kill roughly a hundred billion land animals for food every year across the world. But if you want an estimate on how many animals we kill total, you can just ignore that entirely because the answer is around 1 to 3 trillion fish, depending on how you estimate it.

Azteh ,

That means an average U.S. citizen uses 1,46 straws a day. What the fuck are you guys doing? Compare that to the U.K. where it’s 0,18 by your own numbers.

Ragnarok314159 ,

We use them as single shot spit ball launchers. It’s common to settle disputes lining up like a napoleonic army and blasting at each other. We need gun violence, but don’t always want someone to die.

Asafum ,

I’m going to guess fast food is a large portion of that here in the US. Idk how other countries serve fast food, but here every “meal” comes with a drink, and that drink not only has a plastic straw but also a plastic lid the straw goes into.

starman2112 ,
@starman2112@sh.itjust.works avatar

After opening the plastic container with my pancakes in it, I open three individually plastic wrapped teaspoons of butter and one plastic tub of high fructose corn syrup to pour onto them. I begin eating with my plastic knife and fork, before getting thirsty and reaching for my plastic cup with a plastic lid. I throw the plastic straw that they gave me away, and pull out my trusty stainless steel straw. I am saving the environment one breakfast at a time.

Asafum ,
ilikecats , (edited )

Sometimes doing nothing is better than doing the wrong thing. You’re wasting time and money and not solving any problem in the process.

You also have a nice distraction while the actual source of the problem is getting worse.

UK has banned plastic straws in 2020 and guess what. Nothing has changed. We’re still drowning in plastic. UK doesn’t dump plastic waste in the ocean so the straws you see on the beaches aren’t from here anyway. Never were. No problem was solved

332 , (edited ) to technology in Musk's new idea
@332@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah dude, it’s the brand that’s the problem, you’ve figured it out.

After this, everyone will love it.

Chozo ,

Yep, just like all of Facebook's problems went away after they renamed to Meta. Turns out it was all just a bad brand image to begin with! Nothing to do with out of touch billionaires running companies into the ground, just slap a new logo on it.

Tar_alcaran , to science_memes in How is the hydrogen made?

To save you all a google: it’s made from natural gas, at a pretty significant energy loss compared to just burning the gas. It generates about 4 times more co2 than burning diesel.

bjoern_tantau ,
@bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de avatar
FuglyDuck ,
@FuglyDuck@lemmy.world avatar

Time to arm the swans and Canada geese, too.

essteeyou ,

How is natural gas made? How is natural gas more natural than natural element?

Tar_alcaran ,

Is this a real question? It’s methane, ethane, propane and butane, mixed with carbon dioxide, and we get it from underground.

cynar ,

Natural gas is a byproduct of ancient organic material being buried and slowly cooked by the earth’s heat. The hydrocarbons of the plant break down, and the gas rises. Under certain conditions, it gets trapped below non-porous rock and builds up.

Basically, all fossil fuels are Carbon fixed from CO2 by plants, then trapped underground. The solid material we call coal, the liquid oil and the gas natural gas.

danekrae ,

Are those CO2 emissions? I don’t get where the CO2 comes from.

I know this is an animation, but it shows pretty well, how hydrogen is made from natural gas. No CO2 emissions. And using the hydrogen should produce H2O.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHseMOXbefs

Tar_alcaran ,

In reverse order:

1 - it needs to be tranported

2 - it needs to compressed and cooled, in order to transport it. You need to cool it down around 1700 degrees, because:

3 - methane pyrolysis is done at around 1500 degrees C, getting something that hot isn’t free.

4 - methane isn’t the only component in natural gas, so you need to seperate out all the impurities.

5 - methane is a very strong contributor to global warming, so any natural gas leak from the drill to the factory adds co2equivalent.

6 - you need to extract natural gas from the ground and transport it, which takes energy.

danekrae ,

So what is the best solution, in your opinion?

Tar_alcaran ,

Hydrogen isn’t a solution at all. Literally anything is better than using hydrogen from methane, even shovelling coal into steam engines produces less CO2 equivalent.

So, “don’t do that, it makes things worse”.

I don’t think I should have to produce an answer to one of the main problems facing Western society to be able to point out that hydrogen is mostly natural gas under an asbestos bedsheet.

danekrae , (edited )

Should keep doing what we’ve been doing?

WTF is people against asking questions?

Tar_alcaran ,

Obviously not. But switching to something new and worse also clearly isn’t the solution.

danekrae , (edited )

Not something new? That seems a bit odd?

Try to answer the question people… What is the fucking solution?! You can’t just say “no” to everything, then “I have no suggestions”, but “don’t use new things” and “we shouldn’t use what we do”.

I’m not advocating for gas, oil or coal. Is the answer nuclear energy, solar, wind? Instead of just downvoting, try to use your words.

Amputret ,
@Amputret@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Just because something is new doesn’t mean it’s better or should be used. Just look at crypto.

danekrae ,

So what do we do? Keep killing the planet with what we’ve got, because new is bad?

Tar_alcaran ,

No, bad is bad. There are other solutions, such as electric power, biofuels, etc. everything has downsides, but those are generally less bad with CO2 than the rest.

danekrae ,

You answered my question now, that I asked a few comments ago, thank you.

I don’t know if it was you, but why downvote the question? People trying to kill questions to a very important subject seems moronic to me.

Tar_alcaran ,

I’m not down voting you, they’re decent questions to ask. It’s just that the people asking them are usually the “well, you can’t solve 100% of the problem, so I should do whatever I want” crowd.

JohnDClay ,

It could make sense for planes, where batteries are just too heavy. But you’d need to weigh it against things like synthetic electrically produced kerosene or biodiesel.

Resistentialism ,

How about hydrogen from water? Yeah, you need high amounts of electricity to get it, but, as one example, if it’s used in ICE engines, isn’t that significantly cleaner than petrol? And a lot less damaging than making lithium batteries? Once burned, wouldn’t it just react with oxygen to then form water vapour? And then, if it’s making water, that’s a self-sufficient cycle?

I feel like hydrogen can potentially be a very good solution, but the technology needs to catch up massively. I mean, scientists are getting to on nuclear fusion reactors, and their yield seems a lot better than everything else. Even fission reactors.

Also, I had this thought the other day, and yes, it’s extremely futuristic, with the right people in charge thought, but mining gas planets for the hydrogen. We’ll more than likely never inhabit those ones or use them for much, so we might as well use them for something, at least. At least before Dyson swarms become a thing.

Tar_alcaran ,

Using excess green energy to produce hydrogen is a great option, but those events are pretty rare, and it doesn’t produce very much, compared to pyrolysis of natural gas. Using regular electricity isn’t very smart, since you’re burning hydrocarbons to create hydrogen from water, when you could just get them from the hydrocarbons, so that’s even less efficient.

MashedTech ,

And we’re not doing so well on the gas leak part…

youtu.be/K2oL4SFwkkw?si=Kn-uO64U4X5B_szD

JohnDClay ,

Plus the big one is that my taking the hydrogen off of the methane, you’re left with carbon. And that carbon is usually reacted with oxygen to make carbon dioxide during the refining process. So for every two liters of hydrogen you make, you’d make a liter of CO2.

peto ,

I think the issue is where the energy to heat the reaction vessel comes from. The video shows green sources, but that isn’t the only way to do it. The thing is, this is ultimately an energy storage tech rather than an energy generation tech. You need excess capacity to make it work, and if that means you have to make up for a shortful with conventional generators elsewhere, you aren’t actually saving anything.

I don’t know if the previous poster is right of course, but the planet is an almost closed system, and there really is no such thing as a free lunch when it comes to energy.

pumpkinseedoil ,

The ultimate idea afaik is to build huge renewable energy power plants (for example solar energy in deserts) to generate it there, and then transport it through pipelines to wherever you need it.

Kecessa ,

The only logical way to use it is as fuel for heavy transport if it’s produced in the same place that said transport refuels. We can’t keep petrol in pipelines, how do people think we’ll keep hydrogen in them?

cloudless ,

Any evidence to your claim?

eia.gov/…/natural-gas-and-the-environment.php

Natural gas is a relatively clean burning fossil fuel

Burning natural gas for energy results in fewer emissions of nearly all types of air pollutants and carbon dioxide (CO2) than burning coal or petroleum products to produce an equal amount of energy. About 117 pounds of CO2 are produced per million British thermal units (MMBtu) equivalent of natural gas compared with more than 200 pounds of CO2 per MMBtu of coal and more than 160 pounds per MMBtu of distillate fuel oil. The clean burning properties of natural gas have contributed to increased natural gas use for electricity generation and as a transportation fuel for fleet vehicles in the United States.

Hjalamanger ,
@Hjalamanger@feddit.nu avatar

That’s the states for actually burned natural gas. Natural gas is basically methane and is therefore not too good for the climate when it leaks (which it does)

danekrae ,

Unlike oil.

Annoyed_Crabby ,

Oil leak is detectable via sight, methane is only detectable via a device, either a sensor or a camera.

Both is shit for the climate when leak.

marcos ,

Oil extraction leaks methane in a comparable amount to natural gas. Every local survey points that coal extraction leaks more methane than natural gas, but those numbers are safely suppressed from consolidation into actual studies.

SkybreakerEngineer ,

Cleaner than coal is a very low bar. 60% of the emissions of coal is still way too much

Tar_alcaran ,

Sure, the primary dutch co2 source website: …translate.goog/lijst-emissiefactoren/?_x_tr_sl=n…

Translated, because nobody speaks dutch.

deur ,

):<

Tar_alcaran ,

Behalve jij en ik dan

czardestructo ,
@czardestructo@lemmy.world avatar

Burning natural gas isn’t so awful but getting it out of the ground and to the place where is needs to be burned is always overlooked. It’s a gas, it wants to escape and much of the infrastructure leaks and so a great deal is lost before its used. I walk around Boston and no joke you just SMELL it all the time because the infrastructure is so old. Natural gas is also mostly methane which when leaked is 80 times more potent than CO2. Furthermore much natural gas needs to be transported on ships to be uses. To summarize there is no ‘greener’ fossil fuels it’s all to be avoided if possible.

naeap ,
@naeap@sopuli.xyz avatar

Really 80 times?
I had 4 times in memory

JohnDClay ,

Looks like it’s 27 to 30x over 100 years.

epa.gov/…/understanding-global-warming-potentials

triplenadir ,
@triplenadir@lemmygrad.ml avatar

methane is odourless so you’re likely smelling the additive they put in “town gas” for safety

JohnDClay , (edited )

It does result in higher methane emissions, which have a ln ~30x larger greenhouse effect than CO2.

See here: youtu.be/K2oL4SFwkkw

Edit: Looks like metane’s GGG co2 equivalent is 27 to 30 over 100 years.

epa.gov/…/understanding-global-warming-potentials

JoBo ,

That is true of all colours of hydrogen other than green (and possibly natural stores of ‘fossil’ hydrogen if they can be extracted without leakage).

Green hydrogen is better thought of as a battery than a fuel. It’s a good way to store the excess from renewables and may be the only way to solve problems like air travel.

How hydrogen is transforming these tiny Scottish islands

That’s not to say it’s perfect. Hydrogen in the atmosphere slows down the decomposition of methane so leaks must be kept well below 5% or the climate benefits are lost. We don’t have a good way to measure leaks. It’s also quite inefficient because a lot of energy is needed to compress it for portable uses.

And, of course, the biggest problem is that Big Carbon will never stop pushing for dirtier hydrogens to be included in the mix, if green hydrogen paves the way.

Tar_alcaran ,

Storing hydrogen is also really hard. It needs to be kept extremely cold, and when it isn’t, it tends to pass right through most storage units.

But as a local battery, it can be very useful. Or for applications in large machinery where batteries aren’t a useful option yet.

Tobberone ,

And better yet, if the excess heat can be used. Last Friday i heard a sales rep from a (green) hydrogen company describe their solution as a heating solution that produce hydrogen at an energy storage conference. Seems fair to me😊

MashedTech ,

If the leaks of hydrogen should be kept under 5%, we don’t have a good track record of keeping gas leaks under control anyway…

youtu.be/K2oL4SFwkkw?si=Kn-uO64U4X5B_szD

JoBo ,

Yes. I’m not watching a video but it is a serious problem, especially as hydrogen degrades metals and finds its way out anyway. The private sector cannot be trusted to self-regulate nor the government to meaningfully regulate.

Trying very hard not to succumb to nihilism here …

marcos ,

Or, in other words, the hydrogen economy is prone to bubbles and explosions here and there.

III ,

Well then we won’t be chasing this technology until we can find a way to blame the consumer when it wrecks the environment…

lens17 ,
Eatspancakes84 ,

I really don’t get why hydrogen remains popular. Hydrogen is significantly less efficient than lithium batteries in storing electricity. There are currently dozens of technologies on the way for improving batteries beyond what’s possible with lithium. So what’s the market potential for green hydrogen again?

marcos ,

Hydrogen is useful in a lot of industrial processes. It also maybe win the race for green aviation fuel, but this one is not likely. There is plenty of market for green hydrogen.

There is also absolutely no reason to hype about any of it. Everybody hyping it on the media is trying to make global warming worse.

ButtDrugs ,

It wins by a huge margin on the energy to weight ratio. In scenarios where weight doesn’t matter it’s dumb, but there is potential in places like air travel where it does make sense.

prex ,

I had to scroll way too far to find this - surely the main pro/con if hydrogen.

Storage was an issue in the past. Is it better now?

JoBo ,

Batteries are too heavy for many applications (including, arguably, cars).

That doesn’t make hydrogen the only solution but it is at least a currently available solution. I posted a link about why the Orkneys (population 23k) are producing hydrogen and switching much of their transport to it: they have so much wind the UK (population 70m) national grid can’t take all the power they generate from it.

xkforce ,

Industry uses A LOT of Hydrogen and that would increase dramatically if we stopped using fossil fuels as chemical feedstocks. eg. plastics, pharmaceuticals, dyes etc.

maniel ,

I thought it’s made through electrolysis

Honytawk ,

You can, but it is totally inefficient

You get about 30% of the energy out that you put in

JohnDClay ,

So it’s more like a really bad battery

cucumber_sandwich ,

But with all the disadvantages of having to handle gas!

JohnDClay ,

Yup! It has really good gravimetric energy density, but really bad charging efficiency.

drathvedro ,

Not THAT bad, really, it potentially has a much better mileage-to-weight ratio and sidesteps the issue of lithium recycling and politics

JohnDClay ,

Great to gravametric energy density, okay volumetric energy density, great availability, terrible charging efficiency, and complicated handling and storing mechanisms. Lots of tradeoffs.

triplenadir ,
@triplenadir@lemmygrad.ml avatar

Stop Doing Marketing for Fossil Fuel Companies by Calling it “Natural” Gas Challenge

MyFairJulia ,
@MyFairJulia@lemmy.world avatar

Didn‘t we have a process to electrically synthesize hydrogen out of water?

greyw0lv ,

Electrolysis, it works but it takes a lot of energy to produce, so burning hydrogen from this would be a fools errand.

uis ,

Wouldn’t you spend almost same amount of energy to split water compared to heat produced by burning hydrogen?

captain_aggravated ,
@captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works avatar

Probably more because of entropy: Nature’s IRS.

The only way for electrolysis to be greener than fossil fuels is to use renewable energy sources like wind or solar. It wouldn’t produce enough to gain much market share in any case. So the oil lobby is pushing to derive it from petroleum, because they’re Captain Planet villains.

uis ,

That’s why I said almost.

The only way for electrolysis to be greener than fossil fuels is to use renewable energy sources like wind or solar.

Yep. Basically gas battery.

Ephera ,

Oh great, and I was wondering why some of our policians were pushing hydrogen cars as an alternative to electric cars, despite even the car industry telling them to shut the fuck up.

pewgar_seemsimandroid ,

the car industry have brains?

jabjoe ,
@jabjoe@feddit.uk avatar

Some of car industry. Some are dumb or corrupt. Then a lot people/consumers just see the range and zero ‘direct’ emissions. They don’t look at cost per mile, total energy efficiency, fuel storage and distribution, etc.

mambabasa ,
@mambabasa@slrpnk.net avatar

Finally, a correct answer within the context.

ShadowCat , to piracy in GOG basically acknowledges piracy in a meme

how is this acknowledging piracy ?

ekky ,

Everything nowadays that attempts to give back a little autonomy or freedom to the user is called piracy.

As long as an app could theoretically be used for piracy, even if it was made to circumvent toxic behavior of users’ bought and paid for products, then it must be properly labelled as piracy and taken down.

I’ll better stop before this becomes a rant.

DragonTypeWyvern ,

I guess they don’t realize GOG is DRM free as part of their business model?

Probably because they think DRM=anti pirate and not “You don’t actually own this”

Ethalis ,

Selling only DRM-free games has always be GOG’s whole thing (well, that and selling oldies compatible with modern OS), it’s weird that this meme specifically would be considered “aknowledging piracy”

neoman4426 ,

Like, maybe if the final bit was saying the friends without accounts did like it there might be something there, but simply acknowledging DRM free I'm not seeing it

mambabasa OP ,
@mambabasa@slrpnk.net avatar

To me, the meme acknowledges that GOG installers are shared in groups, which is piracy since the other people didn’t pay for it. (That doesn’t mean it’s bad btw.)

Vespair ,

My friend, I regret to inform you that you are misunderstanding the meme

EmptySlime ,

Yeah that seems like a bit of a stretch. That meme read to me like “Oh, you’re having problems with the DRM? I don’t have that problem,” not “Hey guys, here’s the GOG installer for X game.”

Otherwise, why would the other people in the group chat not like the vibe?

sneakyninjapants ,

It’s because the original image macro that this is based on was about piracy, saying something along the lines of “I bring a certain ‘just torrent it’ vibe to the conversion that the riaa just doesn’t like.”

Their reuse of the macro is indirectly an answer or a continuation of it that can be seen as acknowledging the original message.

AVincentInSpace , (edited ) to memes in was this not allowed before?

Welcome to 2013, Apple fans! Maybe in 5 more years you’ll get homescreen widgets customizable layouts (change number of apps per row etc). In 10 you might get custom launchers!

CaptainEffort ,

I remember having this feature on my jailbroken iPhone in like 2009. Wild that it took this long.

abfarid ,
@abfarid@startrek.website avatar

I’m not sure about iPhones, but iPads have had homescreen widgets for a whole year, maybe even two!

gray ,
@gray@pawb.social avatar

iOS already has widgets?

ursakhiin ,

This interaction is so indicative of the reality of device fandom.

The Android user isn’t storing information about the iPhone in their brain.

The iPhone user is responding like everybody knows everything about iPhone features and it was dumb of the android user to not know this thing.

TheRealKuni ,

Welcome to 2013, Apple fans! Maybe in 5 more years you’ll get home screen widgets.

We actually do have home screen widgets, as of like 2020. They got it sometime before I had my iPhone. And an app drawer!

As a former Android user, my iPhone home screen looks wildly different from people who’ve had iPhones for many years. I have very few icons on my home screen, I have widgets taking up most of the top of the screen to push the icons I do have down near my fingers (because Springboard is still stupid as of iOS 17, as this gif is pointing out), I have more widgets to the left (“Today View,” Apple calls this, it’s basically just a scrolling widget section), and then the app drawer equivalent to the right (which Apple calls “App Library”). It’s clean and beautiful and reminiscent of my lovely Nova launcher setup I had on my beloved OnePlus 7T Pro (may it rest in peace).

Whereas most longtime iPhone users just have page after page after page of apps and folders. Every app they own is on there somewhere. Which is ridiculous since on iOS you can just swipe down, type the first few letters of the app, and there it is.

TrickDacy ,

Always about 7 years behind android. Smh

RealFknNito ,
@RealFknNito@lemmy.world avatar

“Pay more for less!” - Tim Apple

thorbot ,

Thanks trump

TheRealKuni ,

I know, right? It also took them years to improve their notifications to work like Android’s (still aren’t quite as good). And I STILL can’t do what this gif is showing because iOS 18 isn’t out.

4am ,

We had them before that but they were different and not a lot of stuff made use of them

dojan , (edited )
@dojan@lemmy.world avatar

They were kind of shit, and confined to that left-most view. The new widget system they added a couple of years ago is really nice, and the addition of making them interactive with the last update was solid too.

As someone that uses both iPhone and Android, the way it is right now Apple’s widgets feel better. I can’t quite put my finger on why exactly that is, but like with pretty much everything (stock) Android, it just feels a little bit janky. It works just fine, and I really like the adaptive theme thing that my Pixel 6 has going on, but it feels a bit off.


I toyed around with the phones side by side, and I think honestly it’s mostly just that Apple must be spending a fuckton of hours just working on getting animations to flow smoothly. That’s the main difference I notice between my Pixel 6 and my 15 Pro Max. They both have 120hz screens, but the latter doesn’t have any sort of flickering, weird clipping, animations that drop/bug out, etc. while the Pixel does.

I recorded two screencaps, doing roughly the same things, so I could see it side by side. This is from my iPhone, and this is my Pixel 6. I enabled the “record touch gesures” thingy on Android, an option I’ve no idea where/if it exists on iOS.

What’s interesting is, I learned that it actually does pick up my gesure when I try to open the app switcher, it just either ignores it, or I’m not precise enough. I’ve never had this issue on my iPhones, but I have it almost every time I use my Pixel. It then pulls up this weird unlabelled app with a bunch of squigglies in it - I genuinely don’t know what that is, and it took me aback because I was expecting the app switcher. Then there’s a bunch of random flickering. One app is “censored” and it shows my wallpaper instead, which is a bit odd but that’s fine. When dismissing the drawer, it remains briefly above the homescreen before just vanishing out of existence.

On iOS all the animations are smooth, nothing pops, flickers, or jerks. Even the padding in the widget drawer is eased in and out of existence.

Does it matter? That’s subjective. Both are solid phones, and for the price I paid for the 15 Pro Max it fucking better be. With Android you have a lot more freedom, of course. It’s not really something I value in my daily driver as my iPhone does all I want from it with zero hassle.

danc4498 ,

Before the app library existed you just had to have all the apps on a page and could not hide them. I ended up having like 20 page of apps. I eventually cleaned things up and have a page with apps I use, another page of widgets I use, and that’s it. But it took me years before I thought to do that.

TheRealKuni ,

Oh I know, it was madness. I briefly had a used iPhone 3GS and then was pure Android until 2022 when I got an iPhone. By the time I came back it was customizable enough that I could make it look like Android, but that’s work for someone who lived with the terrible setup it originally had. I don’t blame existing iPhone users, it’s just something I’ve noticed.

QuaternionsRock ,

It’s funny, I’ve had an Android, a Nokia Windows Phone, and an iPhone, and Windows Phone was the only OS in which I didn’t open every single app through search. The utter lack of an app ecosystem definitely played a part, but I honestly don’t think either of the other two handle home screens/“app drawers” very well. Every modern social media platform/messenger/etc. is built around vertical continuous scrolling because it’s easier. Why is horizontal, paginated scrolling the default for home screens?

danc4498 ,

That’s a good point. Now that you mention it, I would much rather my Home Screen scroll down and I can add as many apps and widgets as I want.

The current iPhone page feels a bit claustrophobic now. Thanks.

FartsWithAnAccent ,
@FartsWithAnAccent@lemmy.world avatar

2013? Pretty sure you could do this on Android waaaay before that.

Naz ,

My first Android was an HTC Hero, which was released in ~ October of 2009.

One of the first things I did was swap the location of the Maps and Store icons to make it easier to reach on the edge of the phone.

I recall people complaining that same year that the iPhone 1 couldn’t copy or paste text.

:)

thorbot ,

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  • Lucidlethargy ,

    Bro, you can’t be for real, can you? Apple fans have been shitting on Android non-stop since it was created.

    AVincentInSpace ,

    Oh, so “Glad you guys are finally getting features we had over a decade ago” is “full hatred”, but “I’m sorry, did you just send me a green text? didn’t know you were broke” is fine?

    chiliedogg ,

    Shit - my first Android phone had widgets, customizable homescreen (not just icons - but the entire layout an launcher), and anything else custom you wanted back in 2009.

    15 years late to the game in an industry that’s effectively 17 years old…

    sbv , to lemmyshitpost in Boring ass planet
    Deconceptualist ,

    How long has this guy been staring at Uranus?

    DosDude ,
    @DosDude@retrolemmy.com avatar

    I don’t know, but I’m cramping up.

    bruhduh ,
    @bruhduh@lemmy.world avatar
    bruhduh ,
    @bruhduh@lemmy.world avatar
    jaybone ,

    sigh

    gravitas_deficiency ,

    This is high art

    bruhduh ,
    @bruhduh@lemmy.world avatar
    pigup ,

    Uh oh, something magical is about to happen

    ceasarlegsvin , to memes in YARRR

    Pirating a ubisoft game is pretty obviously morally wrong.

    Not because of the piracy, but because then you're wasting your time playing a ubisoft game.

    Noodle07 ,

    Lol hard agree

    RandomLegend ,
    @RandomLegend@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

    My SSD complains about feeling disgusting and dirty after i installed a Ubisoft game to it last time.

    It won’t happen again, it needs some time to recover from that.

    uis ,

    And also because you make ubisoft game more popular

    imPastaSyndrome , to memes in I'm giving them a year until lifetime licenses start to mean nothing.

    When licenses MEAN nothing I PAY for nothing yarrrr

    CaptainSpaceman ,

    Do what you want cuz a pirate is free

    InputZero ,

    You are a pirate! Yar har fiddle dee dee! Being a pirate is alright with me!

    AtariDump ,

    Do what you want 'cause a pirate is free
    You are a pirate!

    finickydesert ,
    @finickydesert@lemmy.ml avatar

    yo ho ho a pirate life for me!

    brbposting ,

    Is there a way to pirate a service like Canva besides pirating someone’s credit card first?

    imPastaSyndrome ,

    I don’t funny know what canva is so… I don’t know

    brbposting ,

    An easy WYSIWYG content creator for making flyers & posters. Question stands for any cloud-hosted, paywalled service.

    Far as I know, you can’t pirate Google Maps or OpenAI services (API key required), for other examples. Or YouTube Premium or Spotify (albeit you can adblock the free versions).

    As more programs move to the cloud, I’m imagining piracy getting much more difficult if not essentially impossible.

    db2 , to lemmyshitpost in Not happening, dude

    Gotta give the (probably imaginary) recruiter credit for a classy response though.

    theotherone ,
    @theotherone@kbin.social avatar

    I’d imagine they swap creative blow-offs for laughs, like any job.

    Track_Shovel OP ,

    Man, I haven’t been blown off in a while…

    RadicalEagle ,

    Let alone creatively.

    Zeppo ,
    @Zeppo@sh.itjust.works avatar

    Military would be a great place to start looking.

    Zehzin , (edited )
    @Zehzin@lemmy.world avatar

    I’ll get blown for crack before I get blown for the military

    snootchiebootchies ,

    I SEEN HIM

    RidderSport ,

    I have been told that the chances are high in the Navy, so I went. Can’t confirm though

    Honytawk ,

    Chances are higher in the US Army, they get a whole buffet of sheep when they are deployed.

    RidderSport ,

    But that only strenghtens the aptitude of sodomistic practices and not necessarily in being gay

    Zeppo ,
    @Zeppo@sh.itjust.works avatar

    Can neither confirm or deny?

    RidderSport ,

    I plead the 5th your honour

    nonfuinoncuro ,
    Ithral ,
    @Ithral@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

    Was Navy can confirm, many orgies

    olutukko ,

    this actually was in mildly infuriating a while back from the original screenshotter, complaining abouth the fact that the army reqruiters can do this trough messaging apps. so I think it’s very real

    alphapuggle ,

    Can confirm they’re real as well as the reaction https://programming.dev/pictrs/image/cbbb0f6a-86fc-4c22-a8a4-5b71707658bf.png

    bl_r ,

    I need this shirt

    brygphilomena ,

    My GF would kill me if I wore it, however much I love the shirt. She was army reserves for 8 years. She is so happy to be out though now. She was deployed to Kuwait and Afghanistan. She’s officially VFW with all the VA benefits. But yea, totally one weekend a month, lol.

    sp3tr4l ,

    I think its originally real, but this image is old to me. Pretty sure I’ve been seeing this one place or another for at least a year now.

    Madison420 ,

    They’re usually dudes who got bumped there for being injured, for being psyched, or being incompetent but well meaning. Don’t be mean to them, they legit don’t want to do what they’re doing they know how stupid and shitty it is but they still have time left in contract and gotta trudge it out day by day like the rest of us.

    Mnemnosyne ,

    Some of them, sure, but there are a lot of stories of how many lies recruiters will tell you to get you to sign on, so a pretty significant number are genuinely bad people.

    Madison420 ,

    They have quotas blame the system not the consequences.

    TechNerdWizard42 ,

    If they weren’t conscripted via draft, they volunteered. 100% their shitty choice to become a terrorist.

    nickwitha_k ,

    Good to remember that not everyone is aware of the bullshit by 17 or 18 when recruiting is at its height (gotta pay for college somehow, right?). I know I wasn’t but, luckily planned to do ROTC instead of enlisting, then, educated myself out of being willing to do that.

    TechNerdWizard42 ,

    If “ignorance isn’t an excuse” doesn’t get you out of any law you break, it also doesn’t get you out of accidentally joining a terrorist organization due to propaganda.

    Because that’s exactly what it is.

    It is no different than the teenagers that join ISIS. Propaganda takes them in, they join voluntarily, they live with their consequences for life.

    ZMoney ,

    They are usually uneducated and poor with trauma in their backgrounds. They have no idea what they’re signing up for.

    TechNerdWizard42 ,

    This is an acceptable excuse in 1902.

    In the age of Google and where even the homeless bum down by the river has a smart phone, Googling to find out about a major life choice is easy to do. Failure to help yourself do nothing but use a phone for 10 minutes deserves zero empathy.

    Madison420 ,

    The average income of a enlistee is below the poverty line, if you can’t get a job you can get your ass in the military and make enough to survive.

    You act like every life choice is binary.

    BigBananaDealer ,
    @BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee avatar

    it was 100% your shitty choice to become homeless. maybe dont get cancer and be in debt to medical bills next time dumbass

    Madison420 ,

    I’m not homeless or in debt of any kind. Get fucked with your bigoted fucking blanket statements dude.

    BigBananaDealer ,
    @BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee avatar

    you should read my comment again but in a tone mocking the comment you responded to originally

    Madison420 ,

    That’s what /s is for.

    If you act a certain way don’t be surprised if people treat you a certain way.

    BigBananaDealer ,
    @BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee avatar

    not surprised at all actually, but /s ruins jokes. i know what comes with the territory of not using /s thats why i very politely asked you to reread the comment

    Madison420 ,

    Which I imagine is specifically why you don’t use it.

    BigBananaDealer ,
    @BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee avatar

    because it ruins jokes? yes

    Madison420 ,

    That’s literally when to use it, it’s specifically to use when you could come off like an asshole and do not want to.

    You don’t use it in my best guess judging by your responses so far is because you get to act like the other person is crazy for taking you seriously.

    Being the guy that jokingly hates Jews can be hilarious especially if they are Jewish but everyone has to know otherwise they might seem a bit… Mmm Hitlery right?

    BigBananaDealer ,
    @BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee avatar

    im dont think youre crazy. i dont think my responses ever indicated that youre crazy, i think youre just embarrassed to have made a response so harsh only to be found it was in agreement toward your original reply, and are now trying to make me seem crazy for not putting an /s. if youd like, i can edit my comment to ensure everybody knows its just a joke 😀

    Madison420 ,

    No need to edit if you skip the drama creation and out the /s there first bud. Move on.

    rambling_lunatic ,

    Why not blame both?

    Madison420 ,

    For the same reason I don’t get upset at the drive through server when the cook makes my burger wrong. They’re just part of the process, not the cause it’s kinda hard to judge people for trying to survive.

    rambling_lunatic ,

    On the other hand, the policing system encourages screwing over minorities and doing various other scummy things (through a quota system among other things). This does not absolve cops of guilt if they target minorities, lie, or plant drugs.

    EdibleFriend , to aboringdystopia in think of the shareholders
    @EdibleFriend@lemmy.world avatar

    OH MY FUCKING GOD I THOUGHT THIS WAS A SHITPOST THIS IS A REAL ARTICLE

    A_cook_not_a_chef ,

    The Economist is truly awful. Just deep throating capitalism in every article.

    9point6 ,

    It’s kinda funny watching neoliberal zealots try to rationalise how their economic system eating itself is actually a good thing.

    Well, kinda funny in a you’d-cry-if-you-didn’t-laugh way, since we’re all in it

    novibe ,

    All we can hope is that China will be a better superpower than the US was 🤷‍♂️ the collapse of the west seems inevitable.

    Coreidan ,

    What makes you think china won’t collapse along with them? Our economies are tied at the hip and they are sitting on a massive debt bomb with their real estate woes.

    novibe ,

    They already resolved the real estate issue, without any crisis. And you might not know cause this isn’t news in the US, but China has been massively offloading all its US debt and dollar reserves. They are preparing to decouple, the US has been threatening to do it for so long. But the fact is, the US and the West will suffer much more than China. They are pivoting to a service and tech economy, and will become the new US of a new “global south” pole.

    The image that China is a “manufacturing” hub for the west is super outdated.

    jaybone ,

    Tankies gonna tankie.

    Coreidan ,

    They already resolved the real estate issue, without any crisis

    Nope. Most definitely not. Never heard of Evergrande have you?

    TheFonz ,

    This is bait

    Jessvj93 ,

    My favorite was watching Chris Matthew’s lose his shit when Bernie won California. Literally cried on air and for some reason was also antisemetic?? Anywho would love to see more of the former from them.

    Baku ,

    Tbf I wouldn’t really expect much from a newspaper going by “the economist”

    Benn ,

    Bartleby is satirical

    EdibleFriend ,
    @EdibleFriend@lemmy.world avatar

    Oh thank god

    Syrc ,

    Is it? I found this page and nothing indicates it’s satirical at first glance (and no way I’m registering to read that).

    Benn ,

    “Thoughts on management and the world of work, in the spirit of the “scrivener” of Herman Melville’s 1853 novel” from www.economist.com/bartleby

    Syrc ,

    Even there, though, nothing explicitly states it’s satire. I found the column’s introduction and even there it doesn’t seem ironic at all.

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