Sounds like a good reason for queer people to start getting jobs as county clerks in Tennessee so they can refuse to solemnize cishet marriages based on their conscience or religious beliefs.
They’d have to do it very stealthily though. Pretend to be die-hard cishet Republicans until after the election. Santos them, but go even further than Santos did by pretending you aren’t even queer.
Yes I was, sorry. This is even more useless than I thought. The Kim Davis case has already established that public officials have an obligation to perform their duties without regard for the sexuality of the people they serve. The law has already been preempted by federal law and precedent in the 6th Circuit which is the appeals court with jurisdiction over Tennessee.
Facts. The people loudly freaking out at the Supreme Court were right all along. Innocent women will be punished during a traumatic experience that is more than punishment enough. The amount of shame for this and other consequences of Conservative legislation will need to be applied for generations. They have proven to be a lice or bedbug infestation and proper treatment is necessary.
The abortion ban is so broadly enforced that even women who suffer miscarriages and stillbirths can be prosecuted for murder. Now an international court will decide for the first time whether these laws violate the human rights of Salvadoran women.
Hmm… the US is a member of the Inter-American Court of Human Rights and signed but never ratified the treaty. Great. The court did actually determine that El Salvador needed to change their policies, which were basically the same as the ones the Christian Fascists have come up with in Texas, Ohio, etc.
That’s what it took to get to the fetus and remove it. And they’re blaming her for not doing it. There she was with a partially retained placenta, in danger of bleeding out, and she had the nerve to leave her toilet intact in order to obtain timely life saving health care.
And don’t forget, she’d been to the hospital multiple times and left because she wasn’t receiving care…all hospital caregivers and ‘legal teams’ were too busy trying to figure out if they could legally remove a dead fetus; they wouldn’t do what needed to be done. Just left her sitting there while they argued intent of the law versus letter of the law.
“She put the fetus into the toilet.” No, she didn’t. The fetus was expelled into the toilet, along with bodily waste. She tried to get everything out, but she couldn’t.
“She then went about her day.” No, she didn’t. She went to the hospital. She was bleeding (probably heavily) due to part of the placenta being left attached.
That’s just two of the twisted statements the prosecutor has made in order to make this woman look like a heartless SOB.
It’s gone too far, and short of removing Republicans from office and justices from the court, I don’t know what we can do. They are prosecuting this woman to punish her for miscarrying in an inconvenient place.
It’s worth mentioning that just 11 days earlier, had her miscarriage happened at the hospital, it would have been disposed of as medical waste…incinerated. 11 freaking days, and the state is criminalizing her.
all hospital caregivers and ‘legal teams’ were too busy trying to figure out if they could legally remove a dead fetus
Source on that? Last I read, and funny how all the articles are regurgitating the same exact text a few days later, she checked herself out against medical advice. Twice.
Even the articles we can easily see today repeat that she was offered induced labor and follow up care, an abortion, and she walked away. Twice.
This isn’t a case of abortion law gone mad. It’s a case of a woman suffering hell and making poor choices.
tl;dr: The Texas case we’ve all heard about is madness. This one is too, but not over abortion laws. This one is prosecutorial overreach.
Her lawyer, Traci Timko, said Watts sat for eight hours at Mercy Health-St. Joseph’s awaiting care on the eve of her pregnancy reaching 22 weeks, before leaving without being treated.
Timko said hospital officials were deliberating over the legalities.
I’ve got my grandbabies here so I don’t have the time to do a big search, but this article quotes her lawyer’s statement that at least one visit in which she left AMA, she waited EIGHT hours for help, which she did not receive. (See first quote) I’ve read another article which I can try to find after the holidays which explained that in her two visits prior to the miscarriage, she was never admitted. She went to the hospital, explained what was going on, received one examination but was NOT admitted. She left after failing to be admitted, which was considered AMA. I’m sure they’d have liked her to sit there another day or two while they continued to fail to admit her, while deliberating over legalities. (See second sentence in the quote)
Even the articles we can easily see today repeat that she was offered induced labor and follow up care, an abortion, and she walked away. Twice.
That is a flat-out untruth. I posted this elsewhere in this thread, but just to be sure you see it:
Every single account I have read says she was in and out of the hospital miscarrying before she finally did at home, and then went back to the hospital afterward, where she was inpatient for days. She left the hospital because she wasn’t getting any help; they were all stuck on the new law while her body was unable to expel the fetus quickly. At NO point did they help her to expel it, or offer to do so. That’s why she kept going home.
Brittany Watts was still hooked to an IV, sick for almost a week from a potentially fatal miscarriage, when a detective from the Warren Police Department in Ohio stepped into her hospital room. He assured her that she wasn’t in any trouble.
For more than an hour, Detective Nick Carney interviewed Watts, 33, about the details of that morning and the whereabouts of the nearly 22-week-old fetus that was declared nonviable two days earlier. As Watts described miscarrying in her bathroom, a nurse at Mercy Health — St. Joseph Warren Hospital rubbed her shoulders and told her everything would be okay, Watts told The Washington Post in a series of text messages. Two weeks later, Carney arrested Watts on charges of felony abuse of a corpse for how she handled the remains from her pregnancy. If indicted and found guilty, she faces up to a year in prison along with a fine of up to $2,500, her lawyer said.
To describe Watts’s experience, The Washington Post reviewed police reports, call recordings and more than 600 pages of medical records, interviewed her lawyer, and spoke to Watts via text message.(emphasis mine)
Again, you don’t need to make anything up. If you find yourself having to lie, maybe your point is not as worthy as you think it is.
Thank you! I had not seen this anywhere else and it explains much.
I’m not lying, bullshitting or trying to condone abortion law. I simply hadn’t seen anything tying this case to law.
God forbid I said that out loud and asked honest questions. I know how to play for upvotes, 11-years on reddit taught me to play users like a fiddle. Thought around here we might discuss things, but of course not, toe the party line or get the fuck out.
Again, thanks for the more in depth material. Your attitude needs fucking work though.
I had not seen this anywhere else and it explains much.
Well, that’s another big fat lie, because you’ve been posting the same horseshit on multiple Brittany Watts articles, refusing to read the articles themselves (which I linked in my last comment and you now claim you’ve never seen) and carrying on despite others telling you each time you’re just flatly wrong:
No, it really doesn’t. How many separate threads do others need to wade through your bullshit before it’s appropriate to call you out on it?
The links I provided above were from separate Lemmy threads that you participated in, all saying the same thing, repeatedly. I just linked them above from your post history.
That’s multiple occasions you had all along to
read the fucking article instead of sealioning for unnecessary additional sources, and
get your fucking facts right, and
3) stop fucking with commenters who genuinely care about the criminalization of women’s healthcare by repeatedly trying to turn related discussions into victim blamefests.
In each instance, commenters corrected you, but you kept spouting your bullshit unhindered.
So tell me, Shalafi, how much of your bullshit do others need to wade through silently before calling you out on your lazy, dishonest, willfully WRONG statements?
I love my attitude, it’s the right one to have as human being, and I’ll keep enjoying it with pride, thanks.
If God is omnipotent, omniscient and wholly good, whence evil? If God wills to prevent evil but cannot, then He is not omnipotent. If He can prevent evil but does not, then he is not good. In either case he is not God.
-David Hume
If God is unable to prevent evil, then he is not all-powerful.
If God is not willing to prevent evil, then he is not all-good.
If God is both willing and able to prevent evil, then why does evil exist?
-Epicurus
I like to think that neo-plato stuff is very neat. “God” is essentially good cause he creates and expands, but he doesn’t have a conscientious nor a great design, so in a way God doesn’t really exist as an entity but its existence itself. Evil in this isn’t a force on its own, it’s merely the failing of a non perfect conscious being (humanity)
This is one of the many reasons that I hate people: “10 days and you’re fine, 12 days and you’re a murderer”. People that follow the law to the number are a scourge on humanity.
If he’s unfit for trial doesn’t he wait until he can? That is beyond unjust on every which side unless he is that level of fucked up. What is life like in an NCR-type deal hospital for life?
Is it like a decent group home or where is he being sent to exactly?
During Thursday’s hearing, the court heard Kurtaj “had been violent while in custody with dozens of reports of injury or property damage,” the BBC reports. A mental health assessment also found that Kurtaj “continued to express the intent to return to cybercrime as soon as possible.” He’s required to stay in the hospital prison for life unless doctors determine that he’s no longer a danger.
Sounds like dude has some stuff to work out mentally
I guess we’ll have to just lock him up while we figure out some way of stopping him committing cybercrime. If only there were some way of preventing him from committing this crime that requires access to a computer to commit. I guess he’ll just have to stay trapped in a phyche ward until society can figure this one out.
Sorry for being snarky and sarcastic, I know what you mean and agree with you. My sarcasm is directed more at the judges ruling and your comment is just what sparked me to write it.
Hacks private companies and threatens to release their users' data.
Smashes physical stuff and beats up physical people after he's taken into custody. Note that he hasn't actually gone to trial yet, so this is what he's currently in the mental hospital for. You really think "anyone" would start beating people up when taken into custody? Why isn't everyone doing that?
Yeah I’m not so much concerned for the property he’s damaging, but moreso the act of damaging. That points to instability, violence, and poor impulse control.
Get off it mate, it’s not like he’s a cop. There’s no danger to you or I.
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During Thursday’s hearing, the court heard Kurtaj “had been violent while in custody with dozens of reports of injury or property damage,”
Uhh no he was a danger to people. Actually how did you get down to this comment without reading the top of the branch that already quoted this part of the article?
Most people are able to restrain themselves from physically attacking people in those circumstances. Why is it okay to try to beat up people when you're being lawfully detained? Even the countries that recognize prisoners having a "right to attempt escape" still charge them with whatever crimes they did in the course of attempting to escape, such as assaulting guards.
Although he stayed at a hotel under police protection during this time, Kurtaj still managed to carry out an attack on Rockstar Games by using the room’s included Amazon Fire Stick and a “newly purchased smart phone, keyboard and mouse,” according to a separate BBC report. Kurtaj was arrested for the final time following the incident.
He already did it again, didn't realize this was the one who did it again while on bail.
He has autism. It affects the brain in very specific ways for each individual, but in general Executive function is the first thing to go when in stressful situations. You know, emotional regulation and self control? And I also guarantee that the cops and guards were treating him like shit. They LOVE picking on disabled people. I have no doubt most of the charges and incidents were exacerbated by the people in charge.
I also guarantee that the cops and guards were treating him like shit
Oh you guarantee it huh? Must be fact then. Thanks for personally guaranteeing this one for us. We wouldn’t want to trifle with such things as evidence when selecting our pitchforks now would we?
Guess Im a bootlicker who needs to behave. Sorry for having an opinion and keeping to the facts. My bad bro. I won’t ever speak my mind again I’ve learned my lesson
The moderation team isn’t here to pick a side. We’re here to make sure fights (like this one) don’t break out. You are both being combative. I don’t mind discourse happening, but keep it civil is the only request. If you must be combative, move it to DMs
Which is why you removed my comment. You picked a side by removing my side from being able to speak. Hey they said they personally guarantee abuse is happening. There is no evidence to that from the article or anywhere. You have now erased that and the only conversation now is theirs. You picked a side.
You never removed the one that is lying about abuse that never happened. You only removed mine where I pointed out there was no evidence. The reason given : “trolling”. So it’s trolling now to stick to the facts?
I removed rule breaking comments. If you can point to a rule that was broken with their comment, please report it. You can contest their comment, but all I ask is you do it in with some civility. I’m not saying you can’t argue, but don’t troll, bash, name call, or other things that are explicitly laid out in the rules.
Rule 1: Be civil
Attack the argument, not the person. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Good faith argumentation only. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
I see, so if I state something as fact even though it isn’t, in the “news” community of all places, that’s not considered rule breaking? But my comment that pointed out that lie is infact rule breaking because I didn’t do it in a friendlier manner. Is that correct?
Rather than arguing, I have requested that other moderators intervene, so there no semblance of me being heavy-handed in my actions regarding this. I have explained the rules, and the justifications of actions taken.
I also guarantee that the cops and guards were treating him like shit Oh you guarantee it huh? Must be fact then. Thanks for personally guaranteeing this one for us. We wouldn’t want to trifle with such things as evidence when selecting our pitchforks now would we? Thanks for the downvotes =)
Umm… look the fuck around? All cops are bastards. Mental health facilities aren’t better. I was a kid in a couple, and worked at one myself. There are good staff, yeah, but there’s also a 99% fucking chance that every kid will encounter a bad one. And there’s a lot of bad ones. If youre lucky theyre lazy and just neglect you. Others have little patience and are likely to yell and chastise during an incident. They’ll do vindictive little things to mentally ill children because theyve had to write an incident report. They’ll taunt and goad kids into being aggressive. They’ll ABSOLUTELY make all kinds of disparaging comments about the kids.
I have seen it all, far too often. Its absolutely rampant.
Going to be honest, I think you need to go back to reddit.
None of what you say seems to be in good faith whereas the person you’re replying to is at least giving personal experiences from both being a kid in that system and having worked in it as an adult.
Downvote haraas and insult me all you want, won’t change the fact that you aren’t contributing to a better community or dialogue.
I’m not going to do anything, I’m just making a suggestion based on your overly aggressive and hostile comments.
I would say it’s rather telling that you just assume someone is going to “do something to you” when they give you a suggestion though.
Might be worth taking a step back from the Internet and figuring out what’s causing you to be such an angry person. Might even help lower your blood pressure.
This kid wasn’t arrested for having autism. It was for brazenly commiting crimes, and even when he was released on bail, he committed even more crimes in police protection.
The jury was told that while he was on bail for hacking Nvidia and BT/EE and in police protection at a Travelodge hotel, he continued hacking and carried out his most infamous hack.
Despite having his laptop confiscated, Kurtaj managed to breach Rockstar, the company behind GTA, using an Amazon Firestick, his hotel TV and a mobile phone.
This is not some poor autistic kid that’s getting picked on by cops, he’s a highly capable hacker expressing a explicit intent to continue to break the law and cause harm to both individuals and corporations.
Never said he was getting picked by cops on or arrested for having autism.
the court heard that the 17-year-old and Kurtaj used stolen SIM details from five victims to steal a total of nearly £100,000 from their cryptocurrency accounts which were secured by their compromised mobile phone SIM identities.
He is a hacker and a thief that has a lot of work to do psychologically
The dude committed crimes while on bail. Autism doesn’t excuse that, and even if it did, it’s still a problem that needs to be dealt with.
A mental health assessment used as part of the sentencing hearing said he “continued to express the intent to return to cyber-crime as soon as possible. He is highly motivated.”
The jury was told that while he was on bail for hacking Nvidia and BT/EE and in police protection at a Travelodge hotel, he continued hacking and carried out his most infamous hack.
Despite having his laptop confiscated, Kurtaj managed to breach Rockstar, the company behind GTA, using an Amazon Firestick, his hotel TV and a mobile phone.
Nothing is being trumped up, here. The kid is just brazen about this.
I don’t think the kid will actually serve it out in prison though. The primary issue here seems to be that the kid is actively saying they will commit more crimes. No matter the crime, you can’t really give a light sentence to someone telling you, in a court of law, that they will do it again.
The ideal would be that they rehabilitate him until he’s able to be safely released with no fear of repeat offense, or at the very least, until the kid is smart enough to lie.
It’s not prison, it’s some sort of prison hospital. But still, life is the exact opposite end of the spectrum compared to a light sentence. Like you said, rehabilitation should be the goal, and imposing life sentences on 18 year olds is not how you make that happen.
He only got a life sentence because he made corporations look bad IMO. Not because of him saying he’d do it again.
Will probably wait until they’re at least smart enough to lie about not wanting to commit more crimes. Maybe then they’ll be mentally fit enough to stand trial, but I’m not sure.
I feel like just saying this is autism, is insulting to people with autism? The violent acts the article said he did can't just be attributed to autism.
Like the OP wants to compare this to law enforcement crimes where it's about what someone has done, whereas this is about medical hospitalization because of what someone is currently doing
Like he's an active, physical threat. The cybercrimes are very secondary to what is going on.
Are you autistic? Cause I am and nothing I said was or is insulting.
What is insulting is you somehow thinking you know anything about how difficult it is for people like us to live in a world where everyone tells us how we should live without first understanding who we are and how our brains work.
The so-called violence wasn’t described in detail … so it could mean they threw food at someone or banged a chair on the floor.
Yeah, I'm getting bothered by this too. My brother had a pretty bad case of autism, he suffered from hard-to-control anger issues, but he learned how to keep those outbursts from causing damage or harming the people around him.
Maybe this guy can learn to control himself, maybe he can't, autism is an extremely broad and varied condition. But either way, it's not unreasonable to keep him in a hospital until he's safe.
Autism isn’t a free pass to do whatever you like without consequences. Most people manage to be autistic without cybercrime and violence, or telling the judge they intend to commit more crimes.
I mean, he didn't even get a life sentence. That's in the headline, I know, but it's just not true.
He's in the hospital indefinitely, not sentenced to life. There's a big fat or clause that completely undermines the "life sentence".
He’s required to stay in the hospital prison for life unless doctors determine that he’s no longer a danger.
I'm not really sure what anyone thinks WOULD be just and proper in this kind of situation. I don't know many details of this particular case, but if there has been due process that determines someone is unsafe to release into society because they lack social capacity, releasing them anyway hardly seems like justice.
I'd like to believe -- though I know it basically isn't true -- that the justice system exists for the sake of justice. That it is primarily concerned with making whole the victims and making sure the criminals are rehabilitated such that they can safely rejoin society and even contribute to it in the future. I think that's how the justice system should work in a fair and just world. But if you have someone who is actually incapable of rejoining society, what are you supposed to do?
If we want to focus on the awfulness of this situation, I don't think the sentence is the issue. I think the focus would need to be on whether or not the hospital treatment has any chance of being effective -- because if it doesn't, THAT'S the story that matters.
It's also right in the article that he was violent. That doesn't really matter though; what matters is whether he's competent to stand trial and whether it is reasonable to release him back to the regular justice system or general public.
I guess your point is that there's no safety hazard since his particular behavior isn't at least murder? Or maybe that cybercrime in particular is actually good and not a problem? It's not really a coherent framework to discuss these things either way.
Who exactly was victimized here? Who was harmed and in what way? God the capitalist bootlicking is insane. Seriously arguing for taking away a neurodivergent person’s agency because some game spoilers got released. Not a good look.
I couldn’t care less about the stuff he’s breaking (so far at least), it’s moreso the breaking part that concerns me. Like, this doesn’t sound like someone following a deeply held belief and breaking property as a way to fight corporations. It’s someone having a temper tantrum.
Let’s also remember he hacked Rockstar while out on bail for hacking other companies. He was already given a chance, and he committed another fucking crime.
Cybercrime destroys lives. It’s anti-commerce and it can absolutely ruin a small business. Who the victim was does not matter. He openly intends to do it again if ever released so section his ass.
This is Rockstar. They make billions. All the hype is just free press for them, which is pro-commerce for them and the press.
Yeah, it destroys lives when it’s taken out of proportion for a stupid leak vs. a life sentence. You ruin lives with your nonsense because a billion dollar company doesn’t have decent cyber-security? GTA is completely full of script kiddies in every session. Maybe rockstar needs to get their act together instead of throwing people in jail for doing exactly what is required in game. Where you’re a criminal that hacks tech companies to advance in the plot. In game, it kills people. In real life, nobody was hurt at all.
Rockstar isn’t the only company he hacked and hacking isn’t his only crime. Read the fucking article. The rest of your logic is just a mess. Doesn’t matter how much security Rockstar has. You can’t walk into a mansion and steal something just because the front door is unlocked. And your last point is just so fucking stupid. It’s ok to hack Rockstar because they have hacking in their games? Jesus. I don’t like or even play Rockstar games but you can’t just commit crimes against them and think it’s ok because they have a lot of money.
Maybe they should chop the hands off cyber criminals as a warning to other would be cybercriminals too. In fact, life is too easy for someone who hurts a company, we should just shoot them all immediately
A danger of commiting cyber crimes. You forgot that part. This could be solved with a probation officer and a restriction on technology use. Instead, he’s in a mental hospital. This is ridiculous and a way to weaponize his disability as a warning to others.
Considering he hacked Rockstar because they put him in a hotel room with a land line phone and an Amazon Firestick while in custody for hacking, I’d say he has a serious mental issue here.
They did strip him of stuff, he just found the Fire Stick and bought the phone - while on bail for other cybercrimes. The point is he’s determined to commit crimes. You can’t let someone out free in society like this. Meeting up with a probation officer every now and then isn’t good enough for this kind of person. It’s a compulsion. He can’t even mentally stand trial right now.
There are absolutely ways to do so. Hackers are kept in the public under those conditions all the time. This is a modern lynching to serve as an example.
Yes… It’s the same sentence criminally insane murderers get.
People pleading insanity and thinking ‘they get away with it’, has always made me laugh. You might get probation in 20 years but in an asylum, you have no sentence it’s just a matter of if the doctors ever agree to release you.
I mean… what is the alternative? He said he’s going to continue hacking once he’s free, so do you think 5 or 10 years in prison will do anything to deter him? It doesn’t sound like it at all.
edit: plenty of downvotes, but nobody is suggesting what should be done instead?
It’s actually been more than just pausing ads. There was a news story yesterday that a number of the big names have stopped using Twitter entirely since pausing too.
Twitter needs ad money, but it also needs these companies. If they stop using it to contact customers and make announcements, the appeal of Twitter falls heavily.
Does it need those companies? I don’t think anyone ever used Twitter because it’s where they could receive little ads from Apple and Disney. The interesting people on Twitter are just people, not faceless PR flacks for massive brands.
Above all else, Twitter (and all social media, including Lemmy) needs engagement. By extension, it needs users and posts/comments. Without these, any social network withers and dies. Twitter also needs to sell ads to make a profit, but those only work when there’s engagement.
Corporate Twitter accounts have their place, but it’s usually only a small piece of the puzzle.
The reports of their shrinking user base and posts are far more indicative of their downfall. While they don’t paint a rosy picture, they also don’t show quite the same level of implosion.
this should be a clear violation of the gag order. but it wont be. theyll be some hand waving and he wont be held to account. and no, a monetary fine is not justice.
The gag order was in reference to court staff only, wasn’t it? Didn’t the judge explicitly leave himself off it? I forget which judge this is, there are so many
honestly im surprised he didnt just outright threaten someone. it kinda feels like this is a desperate attempt at a mistrial.
how many judges would allow 'well, you only broke the intent of my rules not the letter, so ill let it slide this 3rd time'. its prolly zero... unless of course you know the intent of the defendant is to generate a mistrial or other incident allowing appeal.
Trump isn't a actually stupid. He's just an asshole and normal people don't get it.
But if the judge left himself off, and if Trump can make him adjust the order to add himself, or otherwise indicate that he's upset that he's being targeted himself, Trump can and will then argue that the judge is making personal decisions and ask try to make drama about recusing. Which won't go anywhere, but will ramp his followers up further.
Haha that’s so true. I have no doubt there are intelligent people around him who are trying to get him to be the evil genius that guy thinks he is, but there’s just no way he can do it on his own. Unfathomably stupid is the perfect description.
Lots of people are saying he’s the dumbest, maybe the dumbest that’s ever lived. Just the other day he was punching a baby, and the baby miraculously spoke its first words, calling him dumb. If Nobel had a prize for being dumb, he’d win every year. No one else can compare to his ultimate dumbness.
That was very stupid of the judge. Insults and mockery normally are just that. But when someone has a platform as large as Trump full of violent traitors, it turns into death threats pretty quick.
Judges have to be careful with their orders. They have a lot of power, but are always subject to review. No judge wants to see their orders overturned on appeal because of some action they took.
So while a judge absolutely can impose a broad gag order on Trump right away based on his past behavior, his lawyers get to appeal, and they have shown that their legal strategy is whining about every little thing until they get their way.
By doing out punishments in small stages, he can establish a clear pattern of objectionable conduct, such that when the harsher penalties come, his lawyers have a much worse position to whine from.
When she called 911 after getting home, cops showed up but she was told she needed to go back to the scene, which is in a different precinct from her home, and call 911 from there.
Cops will move heaven and earth to not prosecute the criminals they like. Especially corrupt racist-ass NYPD.
Summarizing my other reply, but cops often literally don’t have legal jurisdiction outside of their presinct. This is normal and is state/federal law, not the cop’s decision
They should still be obligated to record and pass on the details of the crime, and get the citizen in contact with the correct people directly. Recording and reporting crime and inter-police communication is kinda their whole fucken job.
To be perfectly fair, cops often literally don’t have jurisdiction outside of their “home” precinct. If they witness a crime outside of their jurisdiction they can make a citizen’s arrest, or if they’re in pursuit of someone who started in their jurisdiction they can chase, but they legally can’t do anything otherwise.
A police officer may arrest a person for a crime, pursuant to subdivision one, whether or not such crime was committed within the geographical area of such police officer’s employment, and he or she may make such arrest within the state, regardless of the situs of the commission of the crime.
Kinda sounds like yes they can. Besides, all this person tried to do was file a report. What you’re seeing here is that cops don’t feel like doing any part of the job that doesn’t involve LARPing a 90s action film.
Cops have authority anywhere in the state, which is why they can be brought in from surrounding areas for special events, riots and other incidents, and can arrest you off-duty if they witness something illegal.
They literally don’t have de-facto jurisdiction over an entire state. This is easily googlable. Additionally, I addressed doing citizen’s arrest already, which is what them doing an “off duty” arrest is.
“Brown, a former NYPD captain, noted police are obligated to take a report no matter where the crime occurred and that forcing crime victims to return to where they were attacked is traumatizing. The NYPD said Adams told the 911 dispatcher she would go to the scene, suggesting she voluntarily offered to do so.”
"Regardless, when Adams went back to the grocery and called for police from there, it took officers four hours to show up, she said. The officers, she said, appeared to know the attacker, referring to him as “Mr. Fourth of July.”’
Democrats this morning were shown a clip of McCarthy on CBS over the weekend trying to blame them for shutdown chaos, Rep. Gerry Connolly, D-Va., said, calling that a clarifying moment for those in the party who might have voted to save him. McCarthy's decision to blame Democrats on TV this weekend was "one of the most crushingly stupid things somebody could do on the eve of your survival vote," he told NBC News this afternoon.
I saw that interview clip - the reporter actually started laughing when he tried to blame the Democrats. It really was a stupid thing to say.
The Democrats were discussing working with him. Then he basically told them to fuck off with that interview. So he lost with 8 republican votes. Such bad strategy. It just makes you think, aren’t you supposed to be a politician. You ever politiced in your whole life?
I guess this is the kind of stupid, horrible strategy you can expect from the current Republican party. They don’t have to make deals are negotiate. Their entire platform is scream Democrats bad.
He was trying to throw the democrats under the bus because the threat from Gaetz was that he was working with the Democrats. But he forgot the Democrats aren’t complete pushovers, just mostly pushovers, and ended up falling under the bus instead.
He eas trying to get the most radical reps back by showing “hey i am one of you, i also wanto to own the libs” But fascists hanging their own to try if they are not radical enough is a story as old as fascism.
You’re crazy if you think it’s these guys cutting deals with the big P directly. It’s more like the NRA, the Heritage Foundation, the Carlyle Group, some Koch org, or other billionaires.
The politicians are just the mouth pieces and button pushers.
That 14 republicans went to see Putin is the exception, not the rule. Normally they don’t expose that relationship and keep it going via middlemen.
He desperately wanted to be speaker. He was pissed off when it took him many votes to get the role, actively negotiating for the job he should’ve been a shoo in for.
Then even once he had it, he was doing anything he could to appease the freedom caucus, including the unilateral impeachment investigation and the shutdown threat.
In averting the shutdown he essentially resigned, but at that point he was a broken man who was tired of selling his soul to appease the far right. Lets not act like he didn’t do everything’s short of shutting down the government to avoid this.
Speaker is usually end game. For politicians who want it, that’s where their career peaks. Party leaders pretty much always end up unpopular. That’s why Paul Ryan was reluctant to do it and now his career is tanked. John Boehner is a full time lobbyist now. Pelosi will probably never leave Congress.
But no one has ever wanted to be speaker more than Kev. He’s not really smart or popular enough to get any higher anyway. The fact that such a dim witted sad sack got as high as he did is a miracle by itself.
It has nothing to do with profits. It’s more profitable to have everyone work from home. Upper managers and executives simply prefer having everyone in the office because they like it. It’s their preference.
Whilst it wouldn’t surprise me at all if this was the case, I’ve seen similar things at other companies, it’s a completely brain-dead strategy. The people who leave are the most qualified and capable employees who can easily find a job elsewhere and you’re just left with all the people who the company swept up in the boom period where they were hiring anyone with a pulse.
King told WXYZ that he spoke to the girl’s parents and offered to be a mentor.
This guy is a psychopath. He just traumatized this girl and now he wants to have influence in her life? Yikes. It sounds like he wants to finish the job of making her life hell.
Aw thanks! I didn’t even realize it was so until you said that. Curious – how did you know? I’m using boost right now and it’s not made obvious anywhere I’ve checked.
Median would be the more generally correct number to use, but apparently IQ (debatable as a proxy for intelligence…) is roughly normally distributed, so either is likely close enough.
Oh yeah, they normalize IQ every year, and 100 is always used as the median.
But thanks to the Flynn Effect, getting a 100 (the number they always choose for the middle) in 2024 means you’re significantly smarter than someone who got a 100 in 1990.
So when Carlin said, “think of a person with average intelligence” he was calling to mind (to his 1990 audience) a person who was average in 1990 but would score [EDIT: I originally said 70s to 80s, but I was off by a lot. Such a person would actually score right around 90 points] today.
This is what happens when you take the lead out of gasoline.
The word average is used to signify mean, median or mode freely, depending only on context. For example, “he’s just an average Joe” is to say he’s like most other men in his demographic. In that case average means mode. In Carlin’s joke, average means median.
Who talks like that? A grifter. A guy who literally embodies all of the seven deadly sins, trying to convince his followers that “he’s a Christian.” That is just exploding with irony.
Wait till you hear what happens on the factory farms that nearly everyone’s meat and dairy comes from. Animals would be lining up for a chance to be treated as well as this dolphin that died at the hands of this bastard.
I have no idea why you’re being downvoted. The fishing industry is possibly the biggest monster in the world and people are just fine with what they can not see. I used to own a sailboat. I can tell say first hand it can be disgusting out there. Ya’ll need to watch some documentaries. Thousands of marine animals are being slaughtered right now while you’re reading this.
Yeah taking “single dolphin shot repeatedly” to “but what about the fishing industry” isn’t a productive take, it’s whataboutism. They are independent issues, and trying to put focus on one removes the focus from the other
Racism: "You can put those people in a camp because they have a different skin color"
Speciesism: "You can put those beings in a camp because they have feathers"
The step you need, to go from "racism is wrong" to "speciesism is wrong" is to extend your circle of compassion to all sentient animals and not just humans.
It is amazing to watch someone’s mind melt like this just because the truth of their food source is pointed out to them. This is a full-blown insane comment.
This is some coping. It’s explained in their quote in the next comment, if you wanted to engage in good faith, you would have followed up below, with the full context. You just wanted to puke your ego as hard as you could and couldn’t hold it for 2 whole comments.
You literally don’t even know my diet, and you are having this kind of meltdown lmao. Go back to tumblr.
Anybody who gets so triggered and defensive when someone points out how disgusting factory farms are doesn’t have a diet that they are proud of. Whether your cognitive dissonance allows you to acknowledge that or not is a different story.
It’s a one time incident. This is like when everyone lost their minds when a single turtle got a straw stuck in its nose. I’m not saying that wasn’t a bad thing. Just like I never said someone shooting a dolphin isn’t horrible.
But why offer a 20K reward for this while completely ignoring the mass slaughter taking place every day? Talk about unproductive.
I don’t think this is whataboutism in its most deflective form; I think it’s, “Why are we concerned about a one-off incident but not looking at the elephant in the room?”
I guess I don’t consider things whtaaboutism if it’s pointing to something that encapsulates the original issue. These issues are not mutually-exclusive and signal the same problem: It’s just asking why people are inconsistent with their outrage. In other words, whataboutism in this context can be effective when pointing out hypocrisy and double-standards.
To contrast, whataboutism as a deflection tends to be a substitute for, “You did it, too! Thus ignore what I did / what I did wrong is justified.” Again, this is not that.
Except one (shooting a dolphin repeatedly) is an act of sport or maliciousness, while the slaughter of marine mammals is an issue of the fishing industry. It’s like someone locking someone up in their basement vs the unjust imprisonment for many inmates that happens in the US. One is personal, and specific, one is systemic, happens all the time, and needs to be approached with a broader scope. They are all wrong, but you can’t lump them together because you are generally upset
I think we can absolutely say that industrialized slaughter is objectively worse in terms of the scale of suffering for the victims. We abstract the moral suffering in the fishing farm; but whoa, if someone individually shoots an animal — totally different! At the end of the day, scale is what matters.
Personally I couldn’t care less about the assailant’s state of mind; what matters is the victim
I disagree because it connects two topics — one that is generally accepted by society — to another that everyone perceives as wrong because of an intimate emotional reaction.
Sure, but instead of saying “what about the shit they are doing to other sea life,” it could be worded as “this is a good time to check up on what’s going on with the fishing industry in general, here’s some links, and ways you can help”
One is just telling people they are assholes for even caring about the shot dolphin and should be better people by caring about bigger issues, the other is knowing people will care about the emotional story and then guiding them to learn more about the shit that happens in the fishing industry. People are emotional, you can’t just say “hey dummies what about this” and expect it to connect, it doesn’t help, you need to guide people.
Saying this is unimportant and people should focus elsewhere is disruptive and doesn’t move people toward bigger issues. Connecting this to bigger issues through conversation and generally better rhetoric does
This is a really great way to phrase it. I am very curious to see if this difference in phrasing would really be received differently than the more blunt approach, which certainly doesn’t seem to work for most people. Hopefully, we will all have AIs soon that can spoon feed anyone who can’t connect the dots on their own.
It blows my mind that people can be reminded of the mass slaughter that is happening daily and think that it must somehow be excusing the one-off brutal slaughter of an individual. I always just assume that people hate to be reminded of the implication of their “sustainable” wild caught tuna or whatever.
It’s a livestock’s life that’s more inhumane, not its death. “Riddled with bullets” is undoubtedly more painful than cutting open the superior vena cava.
That being said, what they did to the dolphin is horrible, and I hope they get caught.
If only they all got simply cut along the superior vena cava. I know it would be great if they all had wonderful happy deaths, but unfortunately they simply don’t. For example, anyone who eats factory farm eggs has the fact that countless baby chicks are thrown into blenders while still alive on their conscience. It is great when people show what they think happens on those farms because it gives opportunity for people to point what actually is happening. Hopefully, more interactions like this will help to end the hypocrisy of it all.
Look at all the downvotes I’m getting, people absolutely leach onto anything that makes them feel the bad people are the ones who point out how awful these farms are.
You haven’t gotten any downvotes, and your comment is eight hours old. You don’t need to be a martyr to make a point. You’re right that the farming industry is cruel.
I wasn’t talking about the potential future downvotes from that comment. I was talking about all the past downvotes that I already got on my original comment.
As an aside, I’m pretty sure that not any amount of downvotes can grant someone martyrhood status.
Imagine you go over to someone’s house, and as soon as you walk in, you get overwhelmed by the smell of feces. You walk into the living room, and there is a dog in a cage that it barely fits into. The cage is so tight around its body that it is unable to turn around. You realise there are inches of fecal sludge caked into the bottom of the entire cage. Upon close inspection, you realise that the teeth of the dog have been removed. You are told that by removing the teeth, it can’t bite. You ask how it doesn’t get so sick that it dies, and you are shown a handful of pills that it is given that fight off its infections and diseases.
You are absolutely disgusted, and you rightfully say so. The response of the owner is this, “This is the same tired argument of ‘Nobody can have pets!’ That always gets brought up.”
This is exactly what you just did.
I never said anything about anyone not being allowed to eat meat, but you have been so conditioned that whenever anyone points out how bad factory farms are, you immediately try to defend them by acting like the only possible way to eat meat is to do it that way. This is not because you are an idiot, it is just because of how clever and motivated the bastards that are doing this to animals are. They are able to convince good-meaning, kind people like yourself to fight on their defense whenever anyone tries to chalange them.
There are many people, now, and all throughout history, that eat meat in a way that is not deplorable, but that way doesn’t make large factory farms rich, it doesn’t put more money into the billionaires pockets. So, they recruited you, and many others to work for them. They are very smart, and they succeeded.
By the way, I have no idea how you’ve taken anything Isaid to mean that I think it is OK to machine gun dolphins if you also eat chickens. I never said anything remotely like that. I agree whole-heartedly that that is, indeed, a very dumb take.
Yeah, I would be unable to respond in any meaningful way if I were trying to argue your side as well. I know why I’m downvoted. I’m downvoted because I point out a disgusting habit that many people have and they hate to think about. That’s fine though, if I can get through to a single person, it is worth it. Think hard about which side you are on here, it’s not a good side at all. Deep down you know that. Sometimes anger is the appropriate response. You’d be angry too if you developed a moral compass.
There is a very good reason why you can’t even attempt to explain your justification for factory farms and all you can do it say “…aka the dumbest take”.
You have no moral justification, all you have is childish selfishness with no regard for anyone but yourself. Your entire life has lead up to the best you can do is try to tear down compationate people because you think it will give you a temporary feeling of not being disgusting.
You could do better, but first you need to at least want to develop will power and self control. I hope for your sake that you never have to experience the hell that you so giddily inflict on others.
When people show outrage about the abuse of a single animal, it is in no way “shoe horning” or a “non-sequitor” to point out the massive animal abuse that many people are supporting. I understand that people hate hearing about, but it’s still true.
It is 100% you bringing your own agenda without regard or consideration for the discussion at hand. You’re not trying to add to the discussion by jumping in and championing your cause without reading the room.
I’m sorry it is so hard for you to make the connection between one abused animal and many abused animals. I don’t know what else to say. This is text book cognitive dissonance. Two things couldn’t be more related.
Oh, it’s not that at all. You just come off as very holier than thou the way you shove into and escalate the discussion without regard for others, but great job capturing some attention.
Yeah, I’m the one without regard for others here. The whole side you are arguing for is not having regard for others. That’s literally what this discussion is about. I say “have regard for others”, and you say “no, lol”.
The thing is, I agree with you about the suffering of animals.
You’re just a sanctimonious self important prick trying to flaunt your imagined moral superiority as some kind of bullshit purity test as to whether people care about animals.
Have fun with that, don’t stop to wonder why people walk away.
Standing up for what you believe isn’t sanctimonious. I hope you eventually learn to quit caring so much what others think about you and that you can start to express your true opinions. Sure, some people will be offended and walk away, but those aren’t the best types of people anyway. Quality is much more important than quantity when it comes to who you spend your time with.
You’d think after walking past hundreds of guys with knife stabs in their back they wouldn’t enter a business deal with the dimwit waving a bloody dagger around.
there are always the people in every horror movie who think that if they deliver their friends into the open drooling maw of the monster stalking them, they’ll get a reward.
the “reward” is usually at least as bad as their friends’ fate. it’s just narcissism really. they think they’re more like the enemy than they are like their friends, so it would be natural to spare them. but they’re all just meat to the monster.
trump is just a shitty xenomorph. small hands instead of small mouth, and substantially less physically threatening. I think they both probably have the acid blood though.
It makes me feel bad that people go into business with him, despite him telling everyone over and over again, over the largest megaphone in human history, exactly who he is.
Much less drive to the polls to voice their opinion to keep him in office.
I don’t feel bad in the slightest. Everyone knows Donald is a sociopathic grifter. These guys wanted to run a con with him and got burned. I hope their lives are full of misery.
They mention cost of living a lot in the article. They also point out that there’s way lower drug use. On top of cost of living I bet a lot of people are getting their escapism from games and Internet instead.
Weed is cheap as hell in Michigan. I wish it was true in Illinois. I’m in Indiana, where it’s illegal, but getting weed from Illinois is a 30-minute drive. However, it’s much more expensive and you’re limited to 14 grams as a non-state resident. Getting weed from Michigan is much, much cheaper and there’s no limit, but it is a 5-hour drive through Indiana for me and I’m not driving that far back through Indiana with a shit ton of weed in my car.
I buy via stnrcreations.comGet them delivered straight to my house. Delta 8 is federally legal, so that’s what you can purchase from the regardless of state. Where I live, all the smoke/vape shops also sell a bunch of delta 8 products. But I’ve preferred the stnr brand over most things I’ve tried.
I think the fact that almost anything might be laced with a lethal dose of fentanyl these days could also be a contributor. A lot of drugs are just white powder… makes it hard to know what’s in it in a party setting.
I don’t know about you, but I’m not bringing test strips to every party, cause I’m not automatically assuming that every party will have drugs. Drugs at a party are the kind of thing that randomly shows up when you least expect it, so it’s not always easy to be prepared.
Plus entry fee. I grew up in a college town and went to the same university. There was a nightclub there (still there amazingly) that had beer for a dime after you paid the cover fee on Tuesdays. I think the entry fee was something like $5, if that.
This has to be some sort of penis based loss leader for them right? Like get the dudes sloshed on cheap beer so they’ll buy pricier drinks for women they hit on. I hate to say it but that strategy would definately have worked on me when I was college age.
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