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Plastic_Ramses , in hole

Fun fact about Crocs.

In the movie idocracy, the costume designer chose crocs as the primary style of shoes because they considered to be so ugly only a complete idiot worluld where them.

MeatPilot ,
@MeatPilot@lemmy.world avatar

That is a fun fact! Also add another check on the list of correlations to actual society that make that movie more prophetic than satire.

Maybe I need to calm down and drink some more electrolytes.

MehBlah ,

What else have you been drinking? I hope your aren’t one of those toilet water drinkers.

Kusimulkku ,

I thought people wore them because of how comfy they are, not for the looks

mac ,
@mac@infosec.pub avatar

So many options for comfy shoes, why choose those.

Kusimulkku ,

Because they’re cheap as hell, easy to slip on, comfy and you don’t really have to worry about them getting wet and whatnot. What would in your opinion be better for summer cabin, for example? Or just taking out the trash?

gamermanh ,
@gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

My flip-flops, which have the added bonus of not looking stupid as all hell

Also they were $2 cheaper than the Crocs right next to them

Kusimulkku ,

Flip flops imo are much less comfortable and usable. So that’s a definite no from me. Crocs are much more like actual shoes but comfier and easy to slip on. And really cheap too unless you’re buying the actual Crocs brand stuff, which, well I guess some do that.

which have the added bonus of not looking stupid as all hell

Oh the horror, what will I do now if someone thinks my shoes I use to throw out the trash or walk around on my summer cabin are stupid looking?? Better put on my fancy flip flops lmao.

Come on now, friend. Who gives a fuck lol

theareciboincident ,

They’re just as ugly as the LV monogram luggage or 20 pound Rimowa carryons and yet nobody gives a shit about those and Crocs have a utility value of being comfortable.

(Side tangent in case anyone tries to convert me to Rimowa. There’s a reason flight crews don’t use them.)

Here’s a hint dear reader: it’s class war. Really weird how it’s always class war.

arin ,

Tbh flipflops looks stupid to me just my opinion tho

mac ,
@mac@infosec.pub avatar

I just wear skate shoes and walking boots all year round. The extra 5 seconds to put them on is fine, I don’t need to save 5 seconds with a pair of slip ones just to take the trash out, I just relax and make a journey out of it.

Plus I find any shoes that aren’t attached to the feet I guess, things like flip flops and crocs where your feet kinda just sit in them, wildly uncomfortable.

Kusimulkku ,

If you’re going outside and inside a lot, like on a summer cabin or something, I just don’t want to be do that extra five seconds. Easier when you can kick them off.

mac ,
@mac@infosec.pub avatar

At a summer cabin the weather and location should be good enough that feeling your feet on the warm pavement or grass should outweigh the convenience of shoes. Or just leave the shoes on if you know you’ll be in and out for a while.

Kusimulkku ,

Summer cabin

Pavement

wat

feeling your feet on the warm pavement or grass should outweigh the convenience of shoes

You’ll dirty up your feet and be dragging in that dirt. Not to mention cleaning your feet is going to be even more trouble for not much benefit. And blueberry bushes and such really aren’t something you want to step on without shoes. Not to mention stepping on bees. That sucks

Or just leave the shoes on if you know you’ll be in and out for a while.

Don’t want to dirty up the house

mac ,
@mac@infosec.pub avatar

So you’re telling me you’ve never seen a cabin that has a stretch of pavement outside it? Even if just for cars to drive up?

Dude you’re feet will not get that dirty from some grass.

Kusimulkku ,

So you’re telling me you’ve never seen a cabin that has a stretch of pavement outside it? Even if just for cars to drive up?

No, I’ve never seen that here. Dirt roads almost always.

Dude you’re feet will not get that dirty from some grass.

Soil absolutely dirties up your feet, are you kidding me lol. You’ll get a lot of soil and sand inside that way (guess how I know) and we just like to keep the place clean without constantly vacuuming. Sorry, but it’s shoes off and no dirty feet inside here.

LaVacaMariposa ,

They’re like $60. I wouldn’t call them cheap as hell, I actually think they’re massively overpriced. But the rest is 100% true.

Kusimulkku ,

I don’t think I’ve ever seen people paying for the actual Crocs, just knockoffs that are like few bucks. My pair was 3€

Marighost ,
@Marighost@lemm.ee avatar

I used to be a big hater of Crocs. Ugly, rubbery, cheap looking things that anyone should be ashamed of wearing.

I needed a new pair of shoes for a new little garden patio we did up. On a whim, I tried a pair of Crocs (with semi-ironic weed leaf print), and honestly? They’re pretty good shoes. I wear em when I do other various chores that might have me going outside.

mac ,
@mac@infosec.pub avatar

Hey man if you like them, as I said somewhere else I don’t like shoes that aren’t attached to my feet, they make me really uncomfortable.

helpImTrappedOnline ,

Fact check: I do not wear crocs, yet I am an idiot. There is no correlation between the two.

RecluseRamble ,

No, you’re good. Just because all croc wearers are idiots does not mean you cannot be an idiot without crocs.

TheObviousSolution ,
@TheObviousSolution@lemm.ee avatar

I wear Crocs because they are functional, for any other reason they’ve long since fallen out of fashion. Combines good insulation with good air flow and they are extremely durable. If being ugly makes me an idiot for wearing them, then I am a complete idiot who deserves his electrolyte laden future.

megabat , in Progress!

Can I use this to make my 48 hour weekend feel like a 480 hour weekend? I really don’t want to be back at work.

The_Picard_Maneuver OP ,
@The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world avatar

Sounds like you found some more time that you could be working!

BitchPeas ,

Fuuu…

user224 ,
@user224@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

You can now work 2,047 hours per week.
But don’t worry, you’ll be appropriately rewarded with a partially eaten slice of pizza (the CEO didn’t like it).

BitchPeas ,

What’s my wage. Death?

UnderpantsWeevil ,
@UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

Can I use this to make my 48 hour weekend feel like a 480 hour weekend?

No, because its a technological fantasy.

People can “lose time” such that they don’t realize how long they’ve been unconscious. But they can’t “gain time”. That’s not how brains work. You can’t get an extra six weeks to study for an exam an hour before the test. Nothing will let you do that. Its pure wizard-tier shit.

stebo02 ,
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There’s definitely ways to make a few minutes feel like hours. Unfortunately those ways aren’t really that pleasant…

UnderpantsWeevil ,
@UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

There’s definitely ways to make a few minutes feel like hours.

There’s ways to remember a few minutes as having felt like hours. But that’s very different from experiencing minutes as hours.

www.sciencedaily.com/releases/…/071211233934.htm

SupraMario ,

Don’t say that, now some CEO is yelling at his staff to figure it out.

Excrubulent ,
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There are stories of people experiencing whole lifetimes within dreams, especially within comas, as well as hallucinogenic trips that seem to last many years.

The human brain is a lot weirder than we know.

And it should be deeply troubling that if we ever learn to manipulate this kind of time perception that some people want to turn it towards torture, and they could get state backing to do so.

Zink ,

If those situations can create strong memories about things that didn’t physically happen, then it seems like almost anything can appear to have happened from that individual’s perspective.

From the individual’s standpoint, once they are awake they can’t really tell the difference between having experienced X and having vivid false memories of experiencing X.

Maybe some kind of real time brain scanning/monitoring could help tell the difference.

UnderpantsWeevil ,
@UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

There are stories of people experiencing whole lifetimes within dreams

There are anecdotes about people claiming to remember living whole lifetimes within dreams.

Even taking this utterly impossible to prove claim at face value, there’s no way to replicate anything like that in practice.

And it should be deeply troubling

I’m about as concerned with this as the possibility someone might try to reverse my gravity or Frankenstein my head into someone else’s torso.

Hule ,

I once had a dream like that, maybe 20 years ago. When I woke up, I was like:

“Oh, this is my old room. But how…? It was just a dream! Now I get to live it.”

It was a wonderful feeling. People would be hooked on it if it would be reproducible.

I also have memories of what happened in there, but I’m fully aware that my brain could be projecting.

Excrubulent ,
@Excrubulent@slrpnk.net avatar

The plural of “anecdote” is “data”, and this is a fairly commonly reproduced story. I don’t know if you understand just how much of psychology and medicine in general is literally just self-reports. If we refused to listen to anybody about their personal stories, we’d know next to nothing about the human mind, and there are absolutely ways to correlate certain states of mind to external measures like FMRI scans.

UnderpantsWeevil ,
@UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

this is a fairly commonly reproduced story

The “falling dream” is a fairly common reproduced story. But “we’re going to invent a device that gives you the falling dream” is a big claim and “we’re going to give you a heart attack in your sleep by inflicting the falling dream on you” is an even bigger one.

I don’t know if you understand just how much of psychology and medicine in general is literally just self-reports.

Self-reports substantiated with medical data to correlate the symptoms with real physical conditions.

You don’t rush a guy with chest pains into the ER, then skip the EKG.

And if the guy with the chest pains says “These pains feel like they’ve been happening forever”, you don’t put “forever” on his medical record under “onset of symptoms”.

there are absolutely ways to correlate certain states of mind to external measures like FMRI scans

States of mind are very different than conditions of physiology. And even they have their limits. The title card is pure fiction. And trying to tie it back to “a feeling I had when I woke up from a dream” isn’t any kind of evidence-based analysis.

Excrubulent ,
@Excrubulent@slrpnk.net avatar

Unless you have a point then there’s nothing here to respond to.

I really wish people would learn to say what they mean.

paholg ,

No, sorry. Ethically, this technology can only be used for torture.

Ultragigagigantic OP , in Ain't no one around to hate in the basement. Just me and my jug.
@Ultragigagigantic@lemmy.world avatar
9point6 ,

Usually we see the problem of cleaning products that look too much like food products, this is the first time I’ve seen the opposite though

nxdefiant ,

to be fair, it’s both.

Cobrachicken ,

What the holy f*!?!

SpeakinTelnet ,
@SpeakinTelnet@sh.itjust.works avatar

Made in Alberta. Not surprised, just disappointed.

Revan343 ,

They’ve stopped making it :(

Artyom ,

Not even that cheap actually. $10/750ml is on the very low end, but it’s not actually shocking.

Rai ,

Alcohol is very expensive in Canada.

blanketswithsmallpox ,

Badger Claw Vodka ~$8 for a 1.75L.

Just don’t waste the money on a case of MinHas…

GladiusB ,
@GladiusB@lemmy.world avatar

That looks like antifreeze

Revan343 ,

Probably tastes more like isopropyl

Fapper_McFapper , in I'd just be glad they were happy together

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  • Ginger666 ,

    I can here to say something to the effect of cheap country blah blah can’t afford bleach?

    CaptKoala ,

    Former cleaner here, most peoples bathrooms look like that, I used to tell folks to get a professional in to get it to a good state, then it’s just maintaining it.

    MonkderDritte ,

    Salt and citrus juice and scrubbing.

    CaptKoala ,

    In a pinch yeah, or just use bleach and scrub, mold killer if need be, you can get brushes meant for grout also.

    stoly ,

    How do you find a trustworthy cleaner at an ok price?

    CaptKoala ,

    Honestly mate it’s a case of shopping around.

    For instance, look up a bunch of reviews, go into a bunch of commercial places and ask who does their cleaning (if it meets your standards of course). Most commercial cleaning companies also do domestic work, you can also in some instances get a single clean done, whatever areas you do/don’t want cleaned and see what the final cost is.

    Cleaning company I used to work for almost always overquoted, on the grounds that we gave the worst possible out come in terms of price, and most clients were pleasantly surprised at the outcome.

    There are also many who underquote to lure clients so don’t rush in finding a good cleaner.

    Imgonnatrythis , in All handy dandy

    Now that’s a field trip - thanks Ms. Frizzle!

    pseudonym ,

    It was a blast

    HottieAutie ,

    I’m so glad I came

    AngryCommieKender ,

    Arnold still managed to screw it up

    clay_pidgin ,

    We never got handjobs at my OLD school!

    bitchkat ,

    How do you know they were getting and not giving? After all, giving is something the whole class can do (assuming they have at least one hand)

    Num10ck , in m'theydy

    about time to switch back to sugartits, but for everyone.

    ikidd ,
    @ikidd@lemmy.world avatar

    I did that the day I learned the word “sugartits”.

    idunnololz ,
    @idunnololz@lemmy.world avatar

    sugarass

    mellowheat , in She did her best ok?

    I like how the pronoun suggests that the teacher is an actual cat.

    xorollo ,

    We confirmed the lawyer is not a cat, but not the teacher.

    thefartographer , (edited ) in This should be fun

    When you’re having sex with your partner, what fantasy would you play in your head just before you orgasm?

    PP_BOY_ OP ,
    @PP_BOY_@lemmy.world avatar

    This one is obvious. I’d visit the bedroom of Mr. and Mrs. Hitler on that faithful evening and slip a rubber over the old man’s johnny while the lights were out.

    Badeendje ,
    @Badeendje@lemmy.world avatar

    Just wow

    pineapplelover ,

    I’m interested to know what the original was

    stebo02 ,
    @stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

    I imagine something like “what’s the first thing you do if you could time-travel”

    notabot , in buying coffee

    Have you considered supplementing your income by committing massive fraud?

    You need to start by making small changes to your daily habits, and build up to massive fraud. If you try to do it all at once the habit wont stick.

    mosiacmango ,

    I dont know about that. Small crimes get prosecuted. Big crimes? You just pay a fine that’s less than what you made.

    I’m thinking “big crimes” is probably better overall. Might as well just start there.

    Corkyskog ,

    Small crimes from small fish. You can only take money from people who have less than you, that’s how the fraud system works. So you gotta ramp up your frauding slowly.

    notabot ,

    I was attempting to be facetious and mimic the self help type advice you see about daily habits, but yes, if you want to get away with it, bigger is probably better.

    SilverShark , in efficiency

    I honestly don’t see the similarity. So nice rotating, scaling, moving skills I guess.

    Imgonnatrythis , in Rate my Tinder profile

    91 miles is way too close

    NatakuNox ,
    @NatakuNox@lemmy.world avatar

    Never pass up a chance to find true love. What’s the worst that can happen?

    Mr_Blott ,

    Male pattern baldness, apparently

    NatakuNox ,
    @NatakuNox@lemmy.world avatar

    Beats being kidnapped, thrown in a water well, starved, forced to listen to goodbye horses, and eventually skinned alive.

    Imgonnatrythis ,

    sounds like something a bald guy would say…

    Rooter , in Tipping culture npcs

    “Other struggling people are not the enemy”.

    Op is jeff bezos alt account.

    atyaz ,

    Or even to use this same example, why not blame the restaurant owner? They can choose to pay their waiters well and tell customers there’s no need for tipping.

    Rediphile ,

    The idiot pro-tipping customers will still tip. They’ll try to sneak a tip and dumb shit like that. And I’m not about to blame a server for accepting free money.

    But what price is fair? How is the owner supposed to just guess that?

    I’d argue the wage that an employee voluntarily agrees to is about the fairest system possible: Make job posting, state the wage and job requirements, and people who find the wage fair then apply for it. I don’t see why this works fine in literally all other industries.

    atyaz ,

    There’s nothing wrong with tipping. It’s the required tipping that’s the problem. What’s fair is a fair salary. Waiters are paid like $2 an hour because the restaurant owners are allowed to take tips into consideration, which is what I’m arguing against.

    Rediphile ,

    Required tipping isn’t a thing. Tipping is, by definition, always optional.

    Jakeroxs ,

    Going to go ahead and guess you’ve never worked in a restaurant, because you don’t know what you’re talking about.

    Rediphile ,

    You guessed wrong. I have a strong opinion against tipping specifically because of working in restaurants including as a server.

    I did not like the inconsistent pay and would have preferred consistent pay. I’m sorry if that doesn’t align with your worldview.

    Jakeroxs ,

    So you’ve been a server and are aware of the uneven pay and the fact that if you don’t get good enough tips you’re making a starvation wage of minimum wage, and yet you still decide “fuck those people who are being exploited by restaurant owners because I don’t agree with tipping.” That’s heartless

    Rediphile ,

    Yes, because I’m against the inconsistent pay I experienced and want it to end so others do not experience the same.

    Heartless is continuing to encourage such a system.

    Jakeroxs ,

    You not tipping isn’t going to result in any fundamental change in the system, you’re just stiffing the people who are being exploited.

    Rediphile ,

    Me not tipping probably the most meaningfully personal action I can take to help to bring a change to the system, namely ending tipping.

    It’s certainly more effective than continued tipping is at trying to end tipping.

    Jakeroxs ,

    You could simply not eat at places that don’t pay their staff a living wage, because as it is, you’re still paying the company to continue their shitty practices.

    ShaggySnacks ,

    As a back of house worker, nothing was more disheartening then hearing all the servers go “I only made $200 in tips today in three hours” and being like “I only made $40 because I worked three hours.”

    Rediphile ,

    Yep, having worked both sides is probably part of why I see tipping as so silly.

    ECB ,

    Or they could have been kitchen-staff. They are one of the biggest victims of tipping culture.

    Essentially chefs are generally paid much, much less than wait-staff and it is very difficult to correct this balance. The reason is that in a normal business you would raise prices to afford to pay higher salaries, but since tips are percentage based this also raises the wages of wait-staff. This becomes a bigger and bigger issue the higher the tipping percentage goes. Restaurant margins tend to be razor thin as well, so raising prices would be the only way to raise kitchen-staff wages.

    It’s one reason why many restaurants are struggling to find kitchen-staff, because even highly trained chefs can make 2-3 times as much working front-of-house. There are quite a few restaurants which are trying to fix this by banning tips, but it’s difficult due to resistance from customers and wait-staff.

    Jakeroxs ,

    Chain restaurant margins are not razor thin, to give an example, Olive Garden spaghetti costs about 30 cents total per bowl and is sold for $10.

    I do not believe at all that the resistance is from customers or wait staff and everything to do with big restaurant chains refusing to pay a living wage, which also goes for kitchen staff who are also generally underpaid. Why pay your staff well if you can put the blame on the customers if they don’t tip?

    dangblingus ,

    This is the point that 50% of North Americans don’t understand. The restaurant owners have set the culture, and they exploit young people and customers alike. However, 50% of people think they’re entitled to eat out and therefore entitled to not tip, which only rewards the scummy restaurant owner for having exploitative business practices. Choosing to eat out and not tip makes tipping culture WORSE.

    Cringe2793 ,

    Well because the struggling people are blaming you when you don’t tip. They should blame the restaurant owner. But they blame the diner instead.

    That’s why people take servers/waiters as the “enemy”

    Rediphile ,

    I definitely don’t see servers who support tipping as ‘the enemy’, just idiots.

    I was literally a server for years too.

    recapitated , (edited )

    Doesn’t matter who gets blamed, if things were corrupt (correct) the customer would be paying the same amount as tipping that much. Tipping culture just gives the customer a chance to shirk.

    Cringe2793 ,

    Well if you are calling it “shirk” then it’s basically required. If it’s required why even give the illusion of a choice?

    recapitated ,

    That’s my point. Tipping culture is stupid.

    Consumers should pay the cost to consume, including materials, operations and staffing.

    It’s not an illusion of choice, it is a choice, and a choice that abuses workers and confuses customers.

    Cringe2793 ,

    The thing is the consumers are paying the cost. The business owners are just taking more of the profits. They just need to pay the workers more.

    And the “choice” you mention is a false one. People can’t really refuse to pay a tip, can they? They’ll get a lot of hostility from the staff (who have been brainwashed to think that it’s the customers’ responsibility). Notice that this isn’t really a thing outside the US.

    recapitated ,

    People can refuse to pay tips and some people don’t care about that hostility.

    Cringe2793 ,

    Most people care though.

    dangblingus ,

    How about we all agree that restaurant owners are the enemy? I don’t care that the 20 year old server working for the weekend doesn’t understand the nuance of the labor they engage in. They’re being exploited and you think that they’re the root cause of tipping culture, when in fact, it’s always been the restaurant owners.

    Cringe2793 ,

    I think you’re deliberately misinterpreting what I’m saying. I am saying they should blame the restaurant owner.

    But it certainly doesn’t help the situation when the server is blaming you and being hostile because you didn’t tip enough.

    hyperhopper ,

    Disagree. Most servers and bartenders are in favor of tipping culture and want it to stay this way with zero wages and societally enforced tips.

    Yes, the corporations are the enemy, but these other struggling people are on the side of the actual enemy.

    Jennykichu ,
    @Jennykichu@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

    Of course they’re in favor of it you idiot its how they make a reasonable living. The people choosing to go to a restaurant are not victims in this arrangement.

    If you can’t afford to dine out then maybe demand your boss pay you more. They’re the ones screwing you, not the waitress at Olive Garden.

    dangblingus ,

    Well sure, anyone would. If you give me $20 on a $100 bill, and you were in my section for an hour with 5-6 tables that all had similar bills and tipping percentage, I’d be ecstatic! That doesn’t mean it’s a good system for everyone. Hot girls make the most amount of tips while dudes serving break their back to make 15%. That hot 20 year old server that you had last time you went out to eat goes to Mexico once a month on her tips.

    hyperhopper ,

    Exactly, so the people in favor of keeping the fucked up system are part of the problem

    JCreazy , in Tipping culture npcs

    I just stopped going to places or using services that expect me to tip. I hate the idea of tipping.

    Sami_Uso , (edited )

    Cook at home, we don’t want you there anyways.

    **Gosh I didn’t realize Lemmy was so full of broke assholes hell bent on taking money out of service employees pockets. Very working class of you guys!

    NoIWontPickaName ,

    Order take-out, all the food, none of the worries

    Rakonat ,

    Thats the funny part, they still want tips on everything they sell. Tipping just needs to be stamped out and employers made to pay living wages.

    TokenBoomer ,

    But that’s socialism. /s

    Rakonat ,

    Here, hold this hammer for me. /s

    dangblingus ,

    The debit machine is automatically programmed to ask for a tip. Your server or take out bagger didn’t program the debit machine. No one has a gun to your head saying you have to tip on takeout. Servers generally aren’t required to tip out on takeout orders.

    PatMustard ,

    taking money out of service employees pockets

    Doesn’t your employer pay your wage?

    dangblingus ,

    No. They pay starvation wages. Server wages in the states is like $2.65/hr. “Well if they hate it just quit!” What person in the US could do the intense labor of serving tables and still survive on that little? Who would want to?

    PatMustard ,

    Do you not have a minimum wage?

    Sami_Uso ,

    Alot of states in the US have like the opposite of pro rated minimum wage where they actually are paid less than minimum wage because they earn tips.

    So like a waitress earns $2.75/hour as opposed to $10/hour because she might make that up in tips within the hour. That’s the thought anyways.

    PatMustard ,

    So what happens if they don’t make any tips? Surely they still need to make the legal minimum wage?

    Rediphile ,

    Going anyway and just not tipping is also a completely acceptable and legally protected option. Sort of like saying ‘no thank you’ to the grocery store check out person asking for charity donations or if you would like to sign up for the store credit card.

    Again, it’s optional. So people can also say ‘yes’ if they want and that’s cool too I guess. Although tipping is inherently harmful to the server’s baseline wage which is a bit problematic, if people want to tip they can and no one is stopping them. And I won’t give them shit about it unless they specifically inquire about it. Since the whole thing is ‘optional’ after all I let them make their own decisions and if tipping gives them a nice release of serotonin or dopamine or something that makes them feel better, who am I to take that from them.

    fathog ,

    Just don’t eat out if you don’t want to tip. Tipping culture is fucked but servers are just as victimized as customers.

    Rediphile ,

    No thank you.

    KevonLooney ,

    Going anyway and just not tipping is also a completely acceptable and legally protected option.

    It’s legal, but not tipping at a restaurant is cheap. It’s also legal for them to ban you from the restaurant, which will probably happen if you give them a diatribe against tipping.

    Rediphile ,

    While they could definitely ban me and I’d have no problem with that at all, they won’t… because the owners have no incentive to ban me. They make the exact same amount from me whether I tip or not.

    I guess if someone went on a big rant that disturbed other customers and caused a loss of sales they may ban them. But otherwise, just quietly playing your bill and leaving, no…not getting banned lol.

    PatMustard ,

    not tipping at a restaurant is cheap

    If you actually believe this then they’ve already got to you. This is Stockholm Syndrome, or the Sunk Cost Fallacy, or good old peer pressure.

    rsuri ,

    I look at it as Actual price = menu price + lowest suggested tip + $5 tip awkwardness penalty. So a place near me has a $12 lunch-size sub sandwich that’s really good. But they ask for a 15% tip. So rather than just never eat at my favorite sandwich spot, I regard it as a $18.80 lunch and only buy it on rare occasions or when my company is paying.

    SuperSpruce ,

    Same. I multiply any restaurant price by 4/3 to account for taxes, fees, and tips when determining if I want to go.

    MisterFrog ,
    @MisterFrog@lemmy.world avatar

    Taxes and fees should included in the price, in civilised countries anyway. That sounds like such a pain.

    Rediphile ,

    They are included in the price in civilized countries. It is only a very very limited number of places where you can’t hand a cashier $5 to pay for something literally labelled $5 and then walk out.

    SkippingRelax ,

    I think the guy you replied to is from the US.

    NoIWontPickaName ,

    I hate American math

    ohlaph ,

    If I’m getting it to go, no tip. Or just the tip.

    PeroBasta ,

    You tip a fastfood?

    ColeSloth ,

    You’re tipping at a sandwich shop? Do they even bring you the sandwich and fill your drink for you?

    Rediphile ,

    Thanks for subsidizing my $12 sandwiches I guess lol. That sure helps me out! Don’t think it helps the servers much in the long run though.

    dangblingus ,

    This is a valid choice. What isn’t valid is still going out to restaurants, having a gay ol time, and then refusing to tip your server on principle while the owner did nothing and made a killing.

    JCreazy ,

    I’m not really a big fan of this rhetoric. People should be able to go to a restaurant and eat without being expected to pay more than what their food costs. They shouldn’t be shamed for not wanting to tip. This becomes an issue of personal morality which is why I just don’t eat out, but I don’t think it’s anyone else’s business except for the person spending the money since it is their money after all. It’s not a customer’s responsibility to make up the pay of a business’s employee. PERIOD. Basically what I’m saying is I don’t go places that expect me to tip but I 100% support people’s decisions to go to restaurants and not tip because that is their right.

    CaptainSpaceman ,

    Its their right to be a shitty person so you support it?

    Damn son. Its one thing to accept a shitty person is shitty, but its a whole other matter to support that shitty person and tell them they should keep doing what theyre doing.

    That server is making $2.13 per hour if theyre American. Non-tippers are robbing that server of another table who would actually pay for their service and allow that server to eat and have a place to stay.

    Yes, its part of the game. No, I dont like tip culture. Yes, shitty people dont tip. No, I will never condone the idea of stiffing a server who lives off of tips.

    JCreazy ,

    I find it interesting how you’re putting the blame on the customer and not the employer. You have no problem calling someone a shitty person for not tipping but you’re okay with the practice of a business paying $2.13 an hour to their employees. It should never be the customer’s responsibility to make sure that the employees of a restaurant are paid enough. Your attitude shows how brainwashed people are into defending these restaurants by putting the blame on customers.

    CaptainSpaceman ,

    I did say I hate tipping culture. Its absolute bullshit and should be done away with.

    The owners are absolutely shitty too, I never praised them.

    You’re building a strawman and then using it as a whataboutism to try to “gotcha” my argument.

    ColeSloth , (edited )

    Serving is a low skill, job outside of fine dining. You remember a couple pages worth of menu and you write down what people want and you fill their drinks. It’s not high skilled. It’s not physically hard. A 16 year old can do it well after a week or two of training. Getting $150 in tips for a 6 hour shift and then only reporting half of it on your taxes is a showcase in how stupid it is to tip so much for it.

    You’re talking about “oh, poor server that makes $2.13 an hour” but why do you think servers as a whole are vehemently against removing tips and going to a normal pay? They know what skill level their job falls at. They know if they were being paid hourly with no tips they’d be getting paid around the same as fast station clerks, retail workers, and grocers. Making in the ball park of $16/hr (obviously varies by area) and they would actually hate to be making that.

    CaptainSpaceman ,

    Eh, plenty of servers in Europe are grown ass adults and they dont rely on tips. How do you think that works?

    Maybe once service starts declining more than it already has in the US, the customers will start complaining and the corporations will listen and try to pay servers a better wage so they are happier and more inclined to give happy service.

    Or maybe they’ll just keep raping profits from the “low-skilled” workers until the only ones who WANT to do the job CANT do the job because they arent skilled enough (hence, the decline of service quality in America as it stands today).

    ColeSloth ,

    It sounds like you’re trying to argue against what I said, but I can’t actually tell what you’re arguing against.

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    Just because i am one doesn’t mean you have to constantly point it out!

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