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actionjbone , to nostupidquestions in What do you do with Nazi memorabilia?

If it’s not of historic significance? Modify it.

Know anyone who does metal work? Ask them to change it to something interesting.

Got a Dremel? Buff away the Nazi bits until it’s smooth metal.

There are lots of different ways to change it!

And if you know anyone who does leather work, they can remove or replace the nasty bits on the scabbard.

ThatWeirdGuy1001 OP ,
@ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world avatar

This is probably what I’m gonna end up doing.

I was just hoping someone could come up with something that wouldn’t involve damaging anything? Idk I don’t want to damage it but I don’t want it to exist 😅

dhork ,

It’s already damaged with all of that Nazi shit, you would be fixing it by removing it all.

nix ,

A craftsmen wouldn’t be damaging it, they’d be modifying it to make it more useful to you.

neidu2 , (edited )

Seconding the dremmel approach. Worst case scenario: You destroy a nazi sword. Best case: You end up with with a cool denazified sword.

Grind down the swastika, and change to a smaller grit to get a nice and polished finish.

Not sure, but I think the eagle predates the nazis.

EDIT: Nope, the eagle is also a nazi and needs a dremel. There, that’s gotta be a brand new sentence.

EDIT2: Seems to be one of the many symbols that have been hijacked by nazis. Keep at your own risk.

WhiteHotaru ,

The eagle as a symbol predates the nazis - a lot. The „Reichsadler“ has been used since 800 A.D. as in the region that is now Germany:

The Reichsadler, i. e. the German Imperial Eagle, originated from a proto-heraldic emblem that was believed to have been used by Charlemagne, the first Frankish ruler whom the Pope crowned as Holy Roman Emperor in AD 800, and derived ultimately from the Aquila, i. e. eagle standard, of the ancient Roman army.

Edit: of course the Nazis twisted this as well. To decide, if the eagle has to go, we need more details:

During Nazi rule, a stylised eagle combined with the Nazi swastika was made the national emblem (Hoheitszeichen) by order of Adolf Hitler in 1935.

Despite its medieval origin, the term “Reichsadler” in common English understanding is mostly associated with this specific Nazi-era version. The Nazi Party had used a very similar symbol for itself, called the Parteiadler (“Party’s eagle”). These two insignia can be distinguished as the Reichsadler looks to its right shoulder whereas the Parteiadler looks to its left shoulder.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichsadler

davidgro ,

Of course the swastika itself is also much older than the Nazis. They ruined plenty of otherwise fine symbolism.

Evil_Shrubbery , to linux in VLC Player

VLC is one of the greatest achievements of the modern era imho (along with Linux, Wikipedia, etc).

A good dev who didn’t sell out, fully FOSS, always up-to-date before-the-date, no nonsense or bloatware, no UI changes every month to get more engagement, etc.

This is how all products of humanity with our level of tech should be like (even non-software).

toynbee ,

Plus it puts on a Santa hat around Christmas.

stoy ,

The 4.0 version will make drastic changes to the UI ):

arstechnica.com/…/vlc-4-0-sneak-peek-a-look-at-it…

I am quite worried about that direction design… Feels like a departure of the sleek video player that we all know and love.

Evil_Shrubbery ,

Yeah, I know, and the new streaming formats technically supporting ads … What can I say - the world is a fuck & we must manage (or not manage, I’m not your boss, Im barely my boss).

rwhitisissle ,

Great thing is that since it’s open source someone can just fork the project and continue development in a different direction.

Murdoc ,

It would be easy enough to put a toggle in the settings for a ‘classic’ mode. I can see him doing that.

terminhell ,

Doesn’t look bad tbh. Though I don’t use VLC too often.

oo1 ,

good cross platforms too.
I've used it from win, osx, linux, android.
It just finds the DLNA and CIFS shares from my nas so naturally in the library - better than thunar.
I just wish my "smart" TV had it.

Evil_Shrubbery ,

I love how when I stream music to my car a little VLC icon appears on the screen, under the album art. So proud.

oo1 ,

haha, that is cool

ristoril_zip , to nostupidquestions in Is there a more politically and ideologically diverse alternative for Lemmy?

I’m sure this will come if the wrong way but if you’re genuinely concerned about discovering diversity of thought, you’re going to have to tell us what your positions are for example.

I’m all for finding diversity, but so often what people who post these are looking for is an echo chamber. Like if you’re really wanting to be challenged, and you’re a conservative, go to socialistworker.org and read up.

But if what you’re concerned about is the nerds in Lemmy seem to be left leaning, that’s just the nature of smart creative people. We value skills and creativity over hierarchy and structure.

Thorny_Insight OP , (edited )

I like hearing both sides of every argument even when I don’t agree with it. On reddit I could read the top comments first and then sort by controversial to hear the opposing arguements. Here I can’t do that. There usually are no opposing arguments or if there is they’re made in bad faith. It’s almost like I need to choose a team and then subscribe to the ideologies of that team when in reality I’m more of a pick and choose type of person.

you’re going to have to tell us what your positions are for example

There are very few “positions” I hold. When it comes to most subjects I’m not informed enough to form strong opinions so I generally float somewhere in between. For most hot topics I see on Lemmy every day I can usually make good arguments for both ways. I may lean to one side or another but I’m often just a few well written comments away from tipping to the other direction.

1984 ,
@1984@lemmy.today avatar

I think some mods are a bit too happy to use their mod tools. I’ve seen opinions get moderated away because they anger people, not because they are wrong.

A mature society is able to discuss things without banning opinions they don’t agree with.

0x4E4F ,
@0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works avatar

lemmy.ml is not as nearly as bad now, lemmy.world on the other hand…

1984 ,
@1984@lemmy.today avatar

Most users actually wants Lemmy.world to have harch moderation, because they don’t want to be exposed to things that upset them.

I think it’s always like that. The big popular platforms are always heavily moderated. And most people are happy with it.

There are always smaller alternatives for others who feel comfortable reading things we don’t agree with sometimes in exchange for nobody controlling the feed.

I’m a bit in between. There is a Swedish site called Flashback that is really good for finding out what actually happens. The media often gives one view and leaves out many details, and it’s very fun to go read what actually happened on flashback afterwards.

0x4E4F ,
@0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works avatar

I just mind that memes get deleted for no apprent reason… sometimes they give a reson, most of the time, they don’t. I mean, come on, it’s a joke…

But whatever. If people here are happy with what they get out of stricter moderation, hey, who am I to judge.

Dark_Arc ,
@Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg avatar

I haven’t really seen that … maybe I’m just in a way “biased” because I do have some comments that meet the “your opinion is clearly highly controversial in this room” threshold but I generally keep my composure.

There are definitely a few times where the other person has made it personal and it’s been difficult to not retaliate in kind.

partial_accumen ,

you’re going to have to tell us what your positions are for example

There are very few “positions” I hold.

The “positions” term is usually a shorthand for the eventual distillation of your values. If you haven’t arrived yet at your positions, have you examined on your values? Values are usually far more primitive in the sense they don’t conform exactly to specific public policy, but there is usually public policy that encompasses specific values.

While its certainly possible for a person’s values to change over time. We usually arrive at what most our values are in our 20s. These are things such as:

  • Your belief in the value of life; Your own vs everyone else’s in society, in the world.
  • Your adoption or rejection on any specific religion or faith
  • Where you decide the right balance is between individualism vs collectivism
  • Your belief in personal responsibility and autonomy vs societal responsibility and obligation

I believe it is very important for each of us to examine who we are, what our values are, and then use our intellect to decide/craft which positions can be arrived at with guidance from our values.

When it comes to most subjects I’m not informed enough to form strong opinions so I generally float somewhere in between. For most hot topics I see on Lemmy every day I can usually make good arguments for both ways. I may lean to one side or another but I’m often just a few well written comments away from tipping to the other direction.

This is where your responsibility comes in. If you’re not informed enough, become so. Listen critically to arguments, don’t simply accept on face value what other proclaim is true. If you’re hearing a logical argument that seems to contradict your understanding, yet aligns with your values, challenge yourself to explore it. The phrase “steel sharpens steel” applies here. If you have healthy and strongly defined personal values, the arguments of your positions should be equally strong and stand up to scrutiny. If your positions are found faulty by your own examination, adopt all or elements of the argument that knocked your position down because its is the right one for your values and ability to critically apply logic with all the information you have available.

You made other statements about choosing a side, but realistically it isn’t just two sides. Its dozens or hundreds of nuanced views, and every single one could be flawed in some way, or incomplete. Accept that in many situations there isn’t a “right” answer. All sides represented could be wrong and the best you can do is admit this choose the least worse. This constant reexamination and frustration is both the beauty and the horror of being human.

Thorny_Insight OP ,

Accept that in many situations there isn’t a “right” answer.

This is pretty much the essence of what I was trying to say there. The more you study a subject the more you realize how much nuance there is to everything so it’s near impossible to land on any clear conclusion on what to think about it. People often act as if it’s all black and white but it almost never is. Even in cases such as the war in Ukraine where it’s a pretty clear which side is the good and which is the bad one you should still be allowed to examine the alternative perspective too to better understand the “enemy” as well as realize that the good side isn’t wihout a fault either and critizicing them doesn’t automatically make you a Russian troll.

BlameThePeacock ,

Your analysis is far too shallow to determine Good vs Bad, even in something that should be as clear cut as the Ukraine war. Morality is next to impossible to assign unless you pick a very specific basis on which to analyze it.

Your starting assumptions matter a lot in morality, like how much you value human life. There are people in this world that do not value life highly because they believe in afterlife situations that are preferable to life on earth as long as you meet the criteria for entrance. Who’s to say they are wrong from a moral perspective?

If Putin actually believes that the people in eastern Ukraine are being persecuted, and Russia is rescuing them, is that immoral? Would it be immoral for a solider to fight under the belief that they are helping people even if they are not?

Morality often comes down to belief because it’s not an objective concept.

Me, I think Putin would look better with a few more holes in him. Is that immoral? Would I be willing to sacrifice myself to kill him? No. Would I be willing to let members of my country’s armed forces sacrifice themselves to kill him despite us not really being involved in the conflict? Probably. That’s some really messy morality right there.

The thing you need to realize at the end of the day, is that morality is completely personal, and yet it’s entire purpose is to allow societies to get along. At the same time, you need to realize that you didn’t come up with your own ideas of morality, you grew up being indoctrinated (for better or worse) towards a particular type of morality.

If you had been born somewhere else, to a different family, or even just had different events happen to you in life, you would have a different set of morals.

Thorny_Insight OP ,

This is the kind of comment I wish I would see here more often.

msage ,

But why? This has everything to do with philosophy, and nothing to do with most posts on Lemmy.

0x4E4F ,
@0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works avatar

I believe OP is young and just more into philosophy than politics… ot maybe a combo of both. I know a time when I was like that, so it’s perfectly normal.

But, unfortunately, yes, there are very few individuals out there that communicate on that level.

msage ,

I wrote more comments here to express my confusion with OP and their goal.

The more I read the more I think the problem is from their inability to explain themselves, or perhaps lack of any cohesive want in the first place. Philosophy is fine, controversy is fine, nuance is great, but I get none of the above from OP. It is possible they are young and searching themselves, yet to understand how the world and online discussions work.

0x4E4F ,
@0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works avatar

It is possible they are young and searching themselves, yet to understand how the world and online discussions work.

Yes, that is what I meant when I said young.

partial_accumen ,

I’m agreeing with this conclusion. When all of us were young, we were told what to believe and how to act. As we enter adulthood we carry that conditioning with us, but for us to grow to we need to explore what we personally believe instead of just accepting monolithic fully formed prepackaged beliefs given to us by others. It looks like OP is learning that.

OP, if this is true and you’re looking for where to start, start with examining different ethical systems. Look up Kantianism vs Utilitarianism as they are very different from one another but are both logical systems. As you grasp the concepts it will be slightly uncomfortable, but that is part of growth.

Azzu ,

You know you’re allowed to make comments in threads challenging people if you think their comments are too one sided?

If you suspect there is an unexplored side to something, you can ask about that, and you’ll very likely get an answer, at least as far as I’ve seen. But usually if no one does that then yeah, like you say, you’ll only see “one side”.

You don’t have to be a passive observer, you can get the discussion you want by guiding it.

Thorny_Insight OP ,

It gets quite tiring after a while that instead of having to defend the point you’re trying to make you instead have to defend yourself as a person. Ad-hominem is what a huge portion of active commentors here reach for when ever someone says something that they disagree with.

Azzu ,

But then your problem does not seem to be diversity. Why do you act like it is?

Thorny_Insight OP ,

Views to the right of centre are almost entirely missing from Lemmy so the problem is lack of diversity. Or perhaps I should say one of the problems. Incivility on social media on the other hand is not an issue unique to Lemmy.

Azzu ,

People right of centre usually have no problem at all with companies like Reddit behaving like it is, like going for an IPO etc, so they haven’t attempted to switch off it yet. I’d just go back to reddit if you want to see these right-wing viewpoints. You haven’t really explained why you don’t want to go back, it seems suited to solve your problem.

msage ,

What ‘right of centre’ views do you seek?

Thorny_Insight OP ,

What does it matter to you?

msage ,

Because that’s what you seek, and I want to understand you and help you if I can, perhaps even provide a nuanced opinion on such view.

TimewornTraveler ,

You know you’re allowed to make comments in threads challenging people if you think their comments are too one sided?

Saying “I’d like to hear a different perspective” is generally interpreted by others as “Your perspective is wrong” and then the assumptions begin, which lead to accusations and bickering.

Azzu ,

I was speaking of something substantial and specific, not just some abstract stuff. For example, idk, "why not halt all arms deliveries to Ukraine? We need the weapons/money ourselves. I.e. some actual question about the topic. Because if you can’t form a question like that, then it doesn’t even make sense really to “hear a different perspective” as this different perspective will have no meaning for you.

But it seems anyway, after reading OPs responses to this thread, that they don’t really care about diverse viewpoints, just about their own viewpoints not being disregarded/dismissed/argued against.

partial_accumen ,

The more you study a subject the more you realize how much nuance there is to everything so it’s near impossible to land on any clear conclusion on what to think about it.

Take this just one step further: Understand that indecision, is a decision. That inaction, is an action.

On every topic, you can’t just look at all the arguments and say “none of these are good enough, I select none” forever. By choosing to opt out forever, you allow the voices and actions of those you disagree with to stand in your place. In these situations where there are no good choices, is where you must eventually make a choice (at least for now), and that choice isn’t going to be the best because there isn’t a best choice. Its going to be the least-worse. This is why its so critical to have explored yourself to decide what values you hold. They are your guideposts to how you evaluate and arrive at what path you choose forward.

Keep looking for better, but don’t let that paralyze you to the point of indecision and inaction.

Thorny_Insight OP ,

Very few subjects are the kind of where one absolutely has to pick a side. That’s kind of like saying you can’t just enjoy football but you have to choose a team to support to. No I don’t.

Just because one thing is slighly better than the alternative that doesn’t mean I’m all for that one thing then. Israel - Hamas conflict is a good example. I don’t support either side and the more I study the subject the more confusing it gets.

partial_accumen ,

First, I said you can’t be inactive/indecisive forever, that is, if you want your values reflected in the world. If you’re content to having the world be whatever someone else decides for you, then I suppose you can, but that in itself is a choice.

Very few subjects are the kind of where one absolutely has to pick a side. That’s kind of like saying you can’t just enjoy football but you have to choose a team to support to. No I don’t.

I’m talking about subjects where you have an opinion for a preference. When you’re a passive watcher of football, there is no outcome that will be against your values. You have no effort to impart with watching football that will affect its outcome.

Just because one thing is slighly better than the alternative that doesn’t mean I’m all for that one thing then.

Of course not, but to affect change you may need to accept a chunk of negative with your path to get a larger chunk of positive. Again, there’s no “best” solution, only least worst.

Israel - Hamas conflict is a good example. I don’t support either side and the more I study the subject the more confusing it gets.

Its a great example! There are zero good choices here. I’m in a similar position, however what I have concluded is our inaction (yours and mine) is causing the continued deaths of the civilians of Gaza. I value the lives. The most number of lives of the civilians that are the most risk right now are those of Gaza. So I have to ask myself, what can I do to preserve as much of civilians of Gaza? It gets even more complicated in the USA where I can advocate to my representatives for support for civilians of Gaza and try to stop the continued flow of US weapons causing the harm. However, our current politics are tying military support to Taiwan (which I support), Israel (which I do not support anymore), and Ukraine (which I do support) all as one package. To stop Russia from seizing Ukraine (where Russia will eventually use the Ukrainian people for further war against others) do I have to let Israel commit genocide against Gaza’s civilians? Again, there are NO good choices here. Only least worst, and the subjective nature of which one is the least worst is guided by your values.

You will have to come to your own conclusion, but make not mistake, without you using your voice others are taking a path one way or the other and your values are not being represented.

JustEnoughDucks ,
@JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nl avatar

I think OP would be good to watch the first season of the Good Place. There is a character on there that is obsessed with making the correct decision and argues so much with himself and others over every tiny nuance that could shift the balance that he never acts on anything at all unless forced.

As you said, fence sitting is in an of itself an action, almost always to the detriment of the topic at hand.

GregorGizeh ,

It’s almost like I need to choose a team and then subscribe to the ideologies of that team when in reality I’m more of a pick and choose type of person.

This sums up my feelings lately very nicely. I’d say I am generally well aligned with the culture on here, and share most leftist views. However there are certain topics, and even just sub aspects of certain topics, that will net you a lot of downvotes very quick and condescending proselytizing comments if you even slightly differ from the general consensus in your views.

I’m not sure what could be done about this though, I certainly dont want Lemmy to be more welcoming towards alt right bullshit and such. But talking with a bunch of queer leftists about queer leftist things all the time is like that old south park episode where the parents become pretentious wine snobs and start getting high on their own farts. Boring, pointless self aggrandizement.

Wahots ,
@Wahots@pawb.social avatar

I’m a queer leftist but get kinda sick of the three topics on lemmy: linux good/america bad/Rust sometimes OK.

I want like…aquarium subreddits that are active. I wanna see mountain bike subs with good advice and live threads. I wanna see local subs that have the hottest details on obcure things like the best nude community gardens or some shit, haha. I wanna see Subaru forums where you can learn how to add a better sound system or replace an intercooler. Hell, even local city subs, where they talk about the best protected bike lanes now that summer is approaching.

gimpchrist ,
@gimpchrist@lemmy.world avatar

The thing about lemmy is if you want to see something you got to make it yourself if it doesn’t exist

Thorny_Insight OP ,

Lemmy has such a tiny active user space that most niche communities simply wont take off.

gimpchrist ,
@gimpchrist@lemmy.world avatar

Not with that attitude

nac82 ,

Guess how reddit started.

TimewornTraveler ,

We will have all that, soon enough. Reddit has size over Lemmy and with size comes monetization. They’ve gone full corporate, selling our data and our content to make a profit. We’re here to stand against that. Hopefully over time we can support enough basic communities that this place will be able to grow over the years.

Until then, help implement the barebones stuff. Make sure you’re subbed to those 4 communities and make a post or two in them. And it’s really not that big of a deal if you browse Reddit from time to time, but don’t neglect the barebones communities here if you’re gonna do that.

TheFriendlyDickhead ,

The amount of tankies and idiots with idiotic opinions is way to high on here. And in general I realy get what they are saying. Other platforms with a bigger user base don’t have that big of a problem with diversity. It bothered me too, it seems like the whole of lemmy has a very idiotic position on a lot of things and saying anything that is even in the slightest against that gets you down voted. That is something that sadly developed over time. In the early days everyone was way more friendly and less radical people were on here.

that’s just the nature of smart creative people

Well. No. Say that to yourself, but ideology and belive is a lot more complex than: I am smart, so I am left. Your believes mostly stem from influences in your childhood, like parents, friends, people you trust. It’s dangerous to lift yourself above others with different believes.

Like if you’re really wanting to be challenged, and you’re a conservative, go to socialistworker.org and read up.

The problem is that a socialist worker doesn’t realy have a place to go to challenge their own opinion. Lemmy sadly has gone the way of an eco chamber. And for political discourse you need other people that have an opinion like yours that support you in your arguments. Currently it’s more like “this guy has a bad opinion, downvote him to hell”

It’s not enough for me to leave, because in general I realy like it here and with enough comunitys blocked it has become bearable.

msage ,

Can you expand more on those idiotic positions?

Shiggles ,

“America does bad things, so I should support china/russia instead!”

“Stalin/mao were (anything besides utterly reprehensible dictators)”

“Communism could’ve worked if-“

Honorable mention to thinking this coy “I’m going to act all hyper respectful and yet also like I know more than anyone about anything” bullshit gets you anywhere.

msage ,

First two sound like tankies, but communism definitely could work :P

avonarret1 ,

If you aren’t human, perhaps

msage ,

It’s like saying we are too stupid to survive.

Thorny_Insight OP ,

That is not an unthinkable scenario. The universe is so vast yet there is no sign of life anywhere else. Why? Perhaps intelligent life simply isn’t intelligent enough and they always end up destroying themselves. A so called “great filter”. Is it behind us or ahead? Who knows.

msage ,

Given the state of our climate, I would say it’s very closely ahead of us, and we are not going to make it. Which is a shame, we are so close.

Thorny_Insight OP ,

I don’t entirely disagree

msage ,

Right now I don’t see how our current society can survive. We are doing nothing at all to stop burning fossil fuels (renewables go up, but so does fossil burning), the richest find more and more absurd ways to waste energy (bitcoin, LLMs), everywhere more and more people go poor even in developed nations (prices skyrocketing, mainly food and rent), and we are just starting to see that climate is starting to change, and not to our optimistic scenarios.

I don’t think we are going to make it.

Thorny_Insight OP ,

For me it’s more about the political climate. I don’t see the actual climate change as an existential threat to the human race in a way something like nuclear war, a pandemic, asteroid or AI could be. It’s bad but it’s not that bad. I never really understood why so many seem to think this way when I don’t even hear scientists making such apocalyptic claims.

msage ,

Maybe I understood the situation too bleakly, but my impression was, that we are losing topsoil (used to grow almost all our food), biodiversity is plummeting (which can trigger chain reaction of massive die-offs), the ice is melting (blue ocean event, likely irreversible) causing billions of people to lose their homes, and depleting aquifies (drinking water). Hotter climate will cause runaway effects, that will multiply all of this, which could lead to decimating most of life in the oceans (food for majority of people), meaning more hungry people inland, politically already unstable, now without soil, water, and getting severe droughts and much more acidic rain. There are possibilities of new diseases appearing from the thawing permafrost, as well as newly mutated ones.

Everything will be made worse by the current trends in politics, but I suspect those politics are trending because some people are aware where are we heading.

Thorny_Insight OP ,

Much of those things will to some extent surely happen but despite it still being really bad, it’s still not going to make us go extinct. That atleast is my current understanding of it. The worst case scenario rarely actually happens and given enough motivation we humans are pretty good at problem solving aswell. I have a strong feeling, that if we’re going to end ourselves, it’s going to more or less be an accident and will happen rather quickly. I still tend to be (techno)optimist about it. It’s all I’ve got.

msage ,

Complete wipe? Certainly not. Reverting our society in standards of living and numbers? Heavily and quickly. People as a species may survive, but will pale in comparison to what we as a society are and can do now. Unless we get cheap fusion power distributed all over the world in the next 20 years, we are gone.

Dasus ,
@Dasus@lemmy.world avatar

I don’t see the actual climate change as an existential threat to the human race in a way something like nuclear war, a pandemic, asteroid or AI could be. It’s bad but it’s not that bad.

“My ignorance is worth more than your knowledge.”

washingtonpost.com/…/climate-change-ipcc-report-1…

Beyond that threshold, scientists have found, climate disasters will become so extreme that people will not be able to adapt. Basic components of the Earth system will be fundamentally, irrevocably altered.

The report reveals thresholds in how much warming people and ecosystems can adapt to. Some are “soft” limits — determined by shortcomings in political and social systems. For example, a low-income community that can’t afford to build flood controls faces soft limits to dealing with sea level rise.

But beyond 1.5 degrees of warming, the IPCC says, humanity will run up against “hard limits” to adaptation. Temperatures will get too high to grow many staple crops. Droughts will become so severe that even the strongest water conservation measures can’t compensate. In a world that has warmed roughly 3 degrees Celsius (5.4 degrees Fahrenheit) — where humanity appears to be headed — the harsh physical realities of climate change will be deadly for countless plants, animals and people

“I’ve never understood why…”

And I can bet you never tried to understand.

Thorny_Insight OP , (edited )

Nothing in your post indicates an existential threat. Sure some places will become unhabitable but not the entire earth. I also don’t understand why you need to include the passive agressive ad-hominems and belittling tone instead of just making your point. People like you is why I’m considering leaving this platform. You make the experience worse for everyone.

Dasus ,
@Dasus@lemmy.world avatar

Because you’re a willfully ignorant dolt, that’s why the tone.

People like you is why I’m considering leaving this platform.

Good.

People like you make the world worse for everyone.

So you think AI is more of an existential threat to humanity than climate change? This informs me that you really think some Skynet type of shit is more likely to happen than extreme weather phenomena. Do you know what an ice-age is? Do you have any idea what it means when we don’t have enough water to grow crops? You think Alexa will hunt you down because you programmed it poorly, but you can’t understand why a category 4 hurricane is deadly af.

Please, the faster you leave, the better. Head to Wikipedia to get rid of some of that ignorance. Here’s a few bit of material to get you started.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climate_changeen.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acid_rainen.wikipedia.org/wiki/Famineen.wikipedia.org/wiki/Droughten.wikipedia.org/wiki/Effects_of_climate_change

Perhaps you’re more of a… ehm “visual learner”. Here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Effects_of_climate_change#/media/File:20200118_Global_warming_and_climate_change_-_vertical_block_diagram_-_causes_effects_feedback.svg and here’s some examples in a video form Europe’s climate in 2050

There’s a reason the deserts of our world aren’t populated, and I’m sure you can figure out what that reason is.

“I don’t see an existential threat in permanently and majorly fucking up the only known world to support life” - You

avonarret1 ,

How about “There will always be someone exploiting the system/people”

Shiggles ,

Commune-ism sounds like a lovely idea on a small scale, you gotta solve a lot of political problems to make it work on anything bigger. Social democracies like the scandinavians seem to be the best way we currently know to run a humanitarian society.

msage ,

Are they though? I just feel like we aren’t solving the issues we ought to.

First, nobody gets hungry ever again.

Then, everybody gets roof over their head.

After that, we can start discussing the next steps.

And yes, we need to do this globally, with nobody left behind.

Shiggles ,

That’s neither exclusive to communism nor has it been achieved in most purportedly communist states (I hear Vietnam’s actually been having a good run of things but I can’t speak to specifics).

Socialism != communism.

msage ,

It’s definitely not happening now under any social democracy.

Socialism is supposed to be a transformative period, leading to communism. I have no idea why people write the !=.

Shiggles ,

Because exclusively that’s the communist viewpoint. There are different socialist ideologies than communism. It’s a rectangle vs square situation.

msage ,

But everyone knows that. Nobody even remotely suggested anything close to it.

Shiggles ,

“Socialism will transition to communism” is just a communism thing. Social democracy is different. It doesn’t involve communism. Because communism is cringe.

msage ,

Communism isn’t cringe, wtf are you talking about. And yes, if we want to discuss communism, we need to take into account that it was suggested to start with socialism beforehand.

Social democracy has jack all to do with socialism, if we want to keep being pedantic. And social democracy does not fare all that well in poorer countries, even after massive EU funds. Which is the real cringe.

msage ,

Though to be honest, tankies spouting #1 and #2 get heavily downvoted. I don’t even see them anymore, guess my instance defederated them, but they were never strong positions here.

Perhaps it’s the defederation, but my experience here does not resemble yours.

Shiggles ,

They’re mask off on hexbear/lemmygrad, they try to be subversive on lemmy.ml. I have in fact instance blocked the first two, you can usually dodge them on .ml. Lemmy is far less enjoyable if you have not blocked them.

lakemalcom10 ,

I just have Lemmygrad blocked and I never see this

Wrench ,

There’s a bunch of very active non-ml users that always turn any political discussion to “both sides are terrible, don’t vote for genocide”.

Once you start recognizing names (or blocking), it gets less depressing. But it does feel like there are a lot more fascist enablers in the political communities than there really are, just because of how fervent those few users are.

irreticent ,
@irreticent@lemmy.world avatar

Once you start recognizing names

One of my favorite features of the Boost app is they allow you to tag a username with whatever label you want. It really helps to highlight the users that regularly argue in bad faith, troll, etc.

marcos ,

So, you’ve been listening to lemmy.lm…

APassenger ,

I’ve seen a LOT of strawman attacks. It usually seems to be honest miscommunication, but underneath that… It looks like predisposition to combative and somewhat-dismissive hot takes.

And it works. Certain members have swung entire conversations and down votes by implying a person said something they didn’t.

It’s not unique to online fora, but the concentration seems off here.

Some of this just looks like people feeling like big fish in this small pond and finding a degree of confidence or even righteousness from the voting patterns.

marcos ,

The amount of tankies and idiots with idiotic opinions is way to high on here.

On an internet site?! I’m shocked! Shocked!

I mostly sign jokes and shitposting communities, but the people there are surprisingly calm and diverse. I mean, surprisingly for an internet community; most could pass just as a very weird group in another context.

But if you go signing for politics communities on the internet, you’ll get the expected result.

fuckingkangaroos , (edited )

You don’t need to know their views to know what a diverse community is. Lemmy is a heavily-biaseebiased echochamber, they want something that’s not a heavily-biased echochamber.

natural_motions ,

It’s actually important. If, for example, they are a white nationalist they don’t really count towards diversity in any kind of productive way.

fuckingkangaroos ,

You think a white nationalist is on here arguing for more diversity…?

eronth ,

Yes, kinda. It’s a go-to for white nationalist types to complain about a lack of diversity in opinions when they really mean they’re mad everyone hates bigotry. They feel that all conversation is biased simply because the people don’t seem to want to be haters as much as they are. So it’s not really that they want more diversity, it’s that they want the conversations to be diverse enough to accept their views.

skullgiver , (edited ) to mildlyinfuriating in My daughter lost her social studies essay because LibreOffice doesn't have autosave on automatically.
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  • ChexMax ,

    There are free 10 finger typing classes online. Frankly it’s a bit fun, similar to learning an instrument! I did one during downtime at work because I was a 6/7 finger typer, and always had to look for numbers or punctuation other than . , ! ?

    pwalker ,

    or instead of throwing more data/money at Big Tech try one of the self hosted instances of nextcloud.com/office/ or cryptpad.org

    SkippingRelax ,

    Furthermore, if the laptop randomly reboots for no reason, autosave won’t save you. You just need a tiny bit of bad luck for the computer to crash while saving, corrupting the perfectly-good file saved to disk.

    Hardly how file saving works. Else you could say the same about a bit of bad luck for the computer to crash while pressing ctrl-s, corrupting the perfectly-good file saved on disk.

    Too many people on this thread seem to see autosave and ctrl-s as two different things, governed by magic and mystery, one of them indispensable to conside nyourself an experienced computer user. It’s the same fucking piece of code, in one case invoked by a timer, in the other one by the end user pressing a key combo.

    Op’s issue was that automated was disabled by default. Obviously autosave doesn’t work it it’s disabled.

    Lemming6969 ,

    This makes op a bad parent. Know this first op… The luxury of autosave is the least of your worries.

    TORFdot0 ,

    It doesn’t make them a bad parent. They are just making a poor choice out of what I assume is good intentions.

    intensely_human ,

    It doesn’t take any money at all to learn touch typing: just google “learn to touch type” and there’s Mavis Beacon type software just written in js, totally free.

    All that’s required is the discipline. If OP’s daughter sits with it 5 minutes a day she’ll be able to touch type in no time.

    Learning as young as possible is the right move.

    Emerald ,

    Mavis Beacon haha. For something not ancient, www.typingclub.com.

    Chozo , to piracy in Apps that shouldn't be Subscriptions

    A watch face for a smart watch.

    This one guy made a really popular Android Wear watch face that mimicked the Pixel lockscreen. It only cost a few bucks, and people loved it. Due to some personal things in his life, he had to sell the app to a new developer to make ends meet. The new developer then started charging something like $7/WEEK subscription for a watchface that he didn't even develop in the first place, and runs entirely locally on the device so it's not like he's maintaining any servers or anything.

    Absolutely absurd.

    themurphy ,

    What. If that business model actually works for him, something is wrong with this world.

    andrew ,
    @andrew@lemmy.stuart.fun avatar

    It’s the business model of build or buy trust and then exploit it until you’re loaded and your former customers all hate you. But you’re loaded.

    And yeah, there’s something wrong with this world.

    muelltonne ,

    It does work. People are distracted and are not reading every message correctly. And payment processing in the appstores is also kind of easy - so you might be able to scam a few people into subscribing and they might not notice this directly. You know that you are not checking your credit card bills in details every month. So you can get a nice revenue stream of unsuspecting customers for a few month until you’ve burned down every little bit of trust and user base you had

    kirk782 OP ,
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    This has to be one of the lamest attempts at getting folks to subscribe. I couldn’t have imagined that watch faces could also be subscription based in the first place.

    doors_3 ,

    I too ran into an Android Wear watch face that mimicked the Pixel lockscreen. However, it was priced X INR(Indian Rupee) per year in my country and was decently cheap. However, I soon ran into another app, which was a one time purchase, that did what it did mainly(sync and show phone and watch battery on each other) and worked on most lock screens. So the latter was a proper kind of app design amd atleast not subscription hell.

    call_me_xale , to asklemmy in What is the device you want, but that does not exist?

    A high-quality dumb TV.

    Get your ads (and security vulnerabilities) out of my damn house.

    hackris ,

    *dumb house.

    The only way

    call_me_xale ,

    I kinda disagree here - I have no problem using smart lights, etc., as long as they’re controlled by a non-cloud system like HomeAssistant. This just doesn’t seem to be an option for more complex devices.

    utopiah ,

    Agreed, “smart” isn’t what matters, it’s more connected and in control, with Internet optional, no proprietary app or weird protocol mandatory.

    MigratingtoLemmy ,

    Tutanota?

    call_me_xale ,

    I’m not sure how an email service helps here…?

    MigratingtoLemmy ,

    Sorry, I don’t know why my comment surfaced here. I replied to someone else.

    droans ,

    They exist, they’re just not cheap since they’re meant for enterprise use and should last much longer.

    At least for most smart TVs, they’re completely operational if you never connect them to the Internet, though.

    call_me_xale ,

    You still end up with awkward, overcomplicated UIs that make using the TV in basic ways unnecessarily obnoxious.

    intensely_human ,

    Want to change the volume? There’s an app for that!

    MigratingtoLemmy ,

    Plug in your own Kodi box. Problem solved.

    People who would like to get their hands a bit dirtier can take off the back cover and remove/desolder the WiFi and Bluetooth chips (if present). Just don’t touch the IR chip

    NotSteve_ ,

    This is how I use my TV but it’s still not perfect. When my TV turns on, it always try to shove a list of “smart apps” in my face which takes a minute to load even with no internet, and the input switcher is slow and clunky. I guess I would accept it anyway though since the smart features push down the price. I don’t think I’d be able to afford the LG C1 otherwise

    call_me_xale ,

    I do use Kodi for local content, but this unfortunately doesn’t help with streaming services, and even dedicated steaming boxes have ads on their home screens now.

    IlliteratiDomine ,
    @IlliteratiDomine@infosec.pub avatar

    DNS blocking (Pihole, adaware, nextdns…) Can take care of those ads on dedicated streaming boxes.

    electric_nan ,

    Just plug a computer into your TV, and never give the TV Ethernet or WiFi access.

    ryathal ,

    Manufacturers have gotten smart to that, if you don’t agree to the terms you may not get the full features. Not just the smart features.

    electric_nan ,

    Interesting. The only feature I can think of mine missing is firmware updates.

    lemmefixdat4u ,

    Visio penalizes you for not giving it Internet access by taking extra long to turn on while it vainly tries to phone home. There’s no way to turn off the “feature”.

    Why is it not illegal for manufacturers to cripple hardware if you don’t let them invade your privacy?

    Are there any alternate firmware sources for TVs that remove the smart features?

    utopiah ,

    FWIW using an Android video projector with VLC connecting to uPnP server, only my video files availble. Otherwise can use its HDMI input but as-is it’s all wireless.

    tungah ,

    Get a pyhole. No more ads (or devices phoning home) in your home network.

    call_me_xale ,

    *Pi-hole

    Already got one. A lot of devices seem to route ads over channels that can’t be blocked without compromising other device functions.

    ZagTheRaccoon , to fediverse in Does it feel like the fediverse is exclusively used by older tech nerds?

    aka: early tech adopters!

    these folk are always the ones trying new things, especially anti-corporate things. They aren’t keeping people away. this is just how the bleeding edge of new technology. The communities natural grow out over time as more people show up and start to outnumber them.

    pythoneer ,

    In reddit’s early days, it was exactly like this. I remember that it felt like a Linux user forum, but with some conspiracy theorists. I actually feel that lemmy is a little more diverse than that.

    anticommon ,

    My first interaction with reddit was to explain how ballistics work in a BF subreddit.

    Man who knew how much time that comment cost me in my life.

    anticommon ,

    Without hobbyists most all new recreational activities just won’t take off. People don’t become professionals and things don’t become usable until those who have more passion and time than sense tackle it first.

    fuser , to nostupidquestions in How to de-radicalize my mom's youtube algorithm?
    @fuser@quex.cc avatar

    the damage that corporate social media has inflicted on our social fabric and political discourse is beyond anything we could have imagined.

    zeppo ,
    @zeppo@lemmy.world avatar

    This is true, but one could say the same about talk radio or television.

    fuser ,
    @fuser@quex.cc avatar

    Yes, I agree - there have always been malevolent forces at work within the media - but before facebook started algorithmically whipping up old folks for clicks, cable TV news wasn’t quite as savage. The early days of hate-talk radio was really just Limbaugh ranting into the AM ether. Now, it’s saturated. Social media isn’t the root cause of political hatred but it gave it a bullhorn and a leg up to apparent legitimacy.

    zeppo ,
    @zeppo@lemmy.world avatar

    Social media is more extreme, but we can’t discount the damage Fox and people like Limbaugh or Michael Savage did.

    theragu40 ,

    Talk radio or television broadcasts the same stuff to everyone. It’s damaging, absolutely. But social media literally tailors the shit to be exactly what will force someone farther down the rabbit hole. It’s actively, aggressively damaging and sends people on a downward spiral way faster while preventing them from encountering diverse viewpoints.

    zeppo ,
    @zeppo@lemmy.world avatar

    I agree it’s worse, but i was just thinking how there are regions where people play ONLY Fox on every public television, and if you turn on the radio it’s exclusively a right-wing propagandist ranting to tell you democrats are taking all your money to give it to black people on welfare.

    le_saucisson_masque ,

    Well it’s kind of true.

    zeppo ,
    @zeppo@lemmy.world avatar

    Uh, no. For one, Republicans spend like fuck, they just also cut taxes so they end up running up the deficit. Social welfare programs account for a tiny fraction of government budgets. The vast majority is the military and interest payments on debt.

    vidsid ,

    Actually, liberal taxes pay for rural white America.

    ChickenButt ,

    And it sucks people back in like a breadcrumbing ex when it hasn’t seen you active recently.

    Ibaudia ,
    @Ibaudia@lemmy.world avatar

    Agreed, Ted Kaczynski was right about technology evidently.

    piecat ,

    He was pretty good at math too

    irkli ,
    @irkli@lemmy.world avatar

    It was just in the news that he was an MK ULTRA subject. Fucked up shit.

    bouh ,

    Populism and racism is as old as societies. Anciant Greece already had it. Rome fell to it. Christianism is born out of it.

    Funnily enough, people always complained about how bad their society was because of this new thing. Like 5 thousand years ago already. Probably earlier even.

    Which is not to say we shouldn’t do anything about it. We definitely should. But common sense won’t save us unfortunately.

    acunasdaddy , to showerthoughts in joining the fediverse to bitch about reddit is the same as going on a date, and spending the whole night talking about your ex

    Hard disagree. The Reddit situation is a huge news story even for people who aren’t on Reddit.

    Also you wouldn’t bring up an ex on a first date because you’re trying to impress the new person. However you would definitely talk about her to friends and family if it was an upsetting situation for you. Reddit was a big part of my life and it fucking sucks what happened To it

    15liam20 ,

    You’re right, anyone trying to get to first base with the Fediverse needs to have a serious word with themselves.

    killa44 ,

    Why stop at first??

    Weirdfish ,

    I mean, once I hit like 14th base I’m out of ideas and stamina.

    TheBeege ,

    This is the kind of quality content I’m here for

    seejur ,

    I think there is a thin line there, which has been crossed.

    Talking about Reddit drama is fine. But when 90% of the posts here are all about Reddit (or Meta/Twitter vs Mastodon) it seems to me that people are just salty.

    I came here because I gave up on Reddit, and I am looking for a reddit substitute. What I wish is to find here the content I would normally find there, so that I am not forced to move back to that wonderful website, sadly managed by shitlords (as the other 100% of profit driven websites. A lesson hard learned).

    But if my feed is spammed by 90% stuff about Reddit and nothing else, that is not the way to growth or make people stick around.

    petesopete ,

    A way to filter posts with the word “Reddit” would be great.

    acunasdaddy ,

    Totally. But the reddit discussions will naturally die down and/or be contained in the “reddit sucks” specific subreddits (I think they are called “Communities” on most instances? Sorry - still learning). But either way it’s a hot topic right now and, as you said, people are angry, hurt, and want a place to vent. I like that we have that space and can discuss together.

    3rdBlueWizard ,

    The Connect app allows you to hide posts based on keywords. Maybe add “reddit” to that?

    MeetInPotatoes ,

    You’re right in that the analogy is way off. Here’s the only way it would make it right, is if your new date also wanted to vent about your ex. That’s probably not the case. But being a Reddit refugee is something in common for many people on Lemmy (especially right now) and so it makes perfect sense for people to talk about it.

    Also, I don’t give much thought to the posts I scroll past…

    MySkinIsFallingOff ,

    Yeah, it’s so far from bringing up an ex on a new date. I assume most people here are ‘an ex’ of reddit. It’s more like a group of friends in a new bar talking shit about a bar they used to go to. Which is completely unproblematic and natural. The new bar doesn’t give a shit, and the friend group gets to vent.

    jol , to science_memes in GLAMour

    I love this story because just imagine the setup.

    All the top world archaeologists are in the biggest archaeology summit trying to figure this out. The queer son of the most famous archaeologist was visiting because his dad was trying to make him a real man and follow science instead of fashion. He takes a look at the poorly design slides being project and makes a snarky remark. “they’re definitely sewed 💀😭💅”. But everyone made fun of him so he took it personally. The next day he came back with an exact replica of the hair style sewed on his bestie’s hair. In awe, everyone got up and clapped. The kid’s name? Albert fucking Einstein.

    Emotional_Series7814 ,

    Not sure whether you meant to express disbelief or just to be silly, but you did make me wonder if this meme was legit or not. It is!

    Ophioparma ,

    Yes, but also:

    And the journals quickly recognized her expertise.

    So no crying historians in that story. She researched, proposed an article and the community said: “Good idea!” The whole “Oh, all those fine scientists laughed about the average joe/jane!” is just a common tale in those stories.

    someguy3 , (edited )

    It’s a common conservative thing to own the libs.

    Also wasn’t so fast:

    Through trial and error she found that she could achieve the hairstyle by sewing the braids and bits together, using a needle. She dug deeper into art and fashion history books, looking for references to stitching.

    In 2005, she had a breakthrough. Studying translations of Roman literature, Ms. Stephens says, she realized the Latin term “acus” was probably being misunderstood in the context of hairdressing. Acus has several meanings including a “single-prong hairpin” or “needle and thread,” she says. Translators generally went with “hairpin.”

    Infynis ,
    @Infynis@midwest.social avatar

    Wow, that’s some serious anthropology, that’s awesome!

    Kiosade ,

    If “acus” means that, then i wonder, how does “abacus” mean a thing you count with? Etymology is fascinating :)

    bricklove ,

    It looks like abacus is of uncertain origin and likely doesn’t share the same root as acus. Finding unexpected histories of words is the fun part of etymology though. Like how donkey ass and butt ass have completely different origins

    Emotional_Series7814 , (edited )

    Thanks to you and @Ophioparma both for pointing those things out. I was only checking the part about the hairstyle being made through sewing, and wasn't checking for dramatization, so I may have retold or personally internalized the story that goes with the sewing fact exactly as told in the meme. Or onlookers might have.

    jol ,

    Definitely just being silly. Thank you do much for the link. I just disliked how dramatized the meme version sounded and doubled down on it.

    BaroqueInMind , to aboringdystopia in Restaurant in NYC offshores cashier job to Philippines so they can pay below minimum wage ($3/hr in Philippines)

    I would just unplug the camera and computer. Every day. Even if I wasn’t buying anything.

    Fuck this business.

    Etterra ,

    Be sure to wear gloves.

    BaroqueInMind ,

    Why?

    NatakuNox ,
    @NatakuNox@lemmy.world avatar

    Because a person 8000 miles away can’t wipe down anything so the place has to be dirty

    hamid , (edited )

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  • NatakuNox ,
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    Ya because they totally won’t cut corners to save a buck

    Passerby6497 ,

    Because you don’t want to leave fingerprints behind when you unplug something on camera.

    TheFriar ,

    Secret…agent man!

    Agent641 ,

    Hi

    TheFriar ,

    Oh sorry, I didn’t mean you, not-so-secret agent man

    intensely_human ,

    They use fingerprints for murder cases, not camera unplugging cases.

    Also, this lady now has a job and you’re talking about ruining her job.

    sunzu ,

    Man wtf is this shit jfc..

    frog_brawler ,

    I want to upvote the first half of this and downvote the second half.

    Bonskreeskreeskree ,

    It’s not illegal to unplug something

    Passerby6497 ,

    Actually, it could be. That could be considered vandalism (you’re intentionally making unauthorized modifications to equipment to prevent it from working as expected) which is illegal.

    But this is New York, so who knows if they would even enforce that.

    Bonskreeskreeskree ,

    They can just plug it back in. It’ll be ok.

    Passerby6497 ,

    Oh, I guess if you can just plug it back in, that just invalidates the downtime that was caused or data being lost.

    Being able to undo vandalism doesn’t make it suddenly not vandalism.

    frog_brawler ,

    It’s not vandalism. Vandalism is destruction of property (physically destroying it). Unplugging something that was designed to be unplugged is absolutely not vandalism.

    frog_brawler ,

    No, at worst, it would be criminal mischief. Criminal mischief with $0 in property damage…

    Empricorn ,

    So people can just unplug cables at data centers because it’s “$0 property damage criminal mischief”?

    Come on, their lawyers would (successfully) argue that they experienced loss of revenue for any amount of time their remote cashier system was not connected and operational…

    frog_brawler ,

    No, “people” cannot even enter a data center without walking through multiple security man traps and providing identification that gets kept at the desk while inside. A data center is not a sandwich shop.

    frog_brawler , (edited )

    You’re significantly overestimating the police response to a non-vandalism.

    Edit: In nyc, they don’t even finger print for an actual vandalism…

    STUPIDVIPGUY , to science_memes in Children is bugs

    literally nothing wrong with that it’s just a name

    originalucifer , to asklemmy in Why are 80% of the elements metallic? I get that they ARE, but WHY?
    @originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com avatar

    my wife says its because 'they are electron whores'

    something something electrical stability something

    pete_the_cat , to nostupidquestions in When did breasts become a thing that needed to be concealed in public and why?

    Once the Abrahamic Religions (Christianity, Judaism, and Islam) became huge. It’s all about “Women are evil sluts who do nothing but sin and tempt the good and pious men”, it’s pretty evident in modern societies that have large populations of people that follow these religions.

    disguy_ovahea ,

    The correct answer has three upvotes, and Victorian era rises to the top. Well, at least you have 4 upvotes now.

    qooqie ,

    I feel like it has to be much more complicated than this. Sure they influenced the culture but a lot of polytheistic cultures seemed to also have coverings

    notabot , to asklemmy in What is something that 2020s kids will never get to experience?

    The internet in it’s heyday, when it was a genuinely thrilling place to find information, and quite a lot of weirdness, and before it was swamped by corporate interests.

    I remember starting out with gopher and a paper print out of ‘The big dummies guide to the internet’ which was a directory of almost every gopher and ftp site (pre web) along with a description of what you’d find there. Then the web came along and things got really good for a while. Once big corporations got involved it all went down hill.

    sirico ,
    @sirico@feddit.uk avatar
    runjun ,

    Do you use this? I’ve been thinking that there has to an underground “internet” that mimics the old web. I was thinking that it would be BBS or something. I haven’t gone down any rabbit hole yet because lemmy has been scratching the itch alright.

    sirico ,
    @sirico@feddit.uk avatar

    No I used Gemini for a bit which is a newer protocol trying to deliver that old school way of internet

    runjun ,

    Interesting, I’ll look into Gemini.

    christophski ,

    Any good links you can recommend?

    sirico ,
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    krash ,

    If you like gopher, you’re gonna love Gemini: github.com/kr1sp1n/awesome-gemini

    notabot ,

    I’ve been keeping half an eye on it for a while, I should probably give it a go again.

    teawrecks ,

    I would limit it to the “web” in it’s heyday. The internet as a whole is more wild than ever. And there’s a chance that the fediverse could be just as thrilling in 10 years as the web was 20 years ago (and could be swamped by corporate interests).

    I don’t think the internet is getting less thrilling and weird, if anything it’s downright scary at this point, it’s just really easy to enter a walled garden, never leave, and never find the interesting stuff.

    itsnotits ,

    in its* heyday

    itsnotits ,

    in its* heyday

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