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Drusas , in Trump says if he is jailed that could be 'breaking point' for Americans

How the fuck is stochastic terrorism not illegal?

tiefling ,

It is but only for leftists. Thanks, McCarthy.

shalafi ,

How you gonna wrap a law around it? Hell, even with something as “obvious” as this quote? Trump said nothing that “incites violence”. He’s playing the mob boss thing, again.

If 01/06 wasn’t enough for our government to take action, nothing will be. And again, what would that action even look like?

I’ve preached many, many times on here and reddit that libs need to get armed, educated and practiced. Is that terrorism? Fuck me. I’m just saying that the conservatives are ready to kill us and we should be prepared to defend ourselves.

Dkarma ,

They do fine for, oh, the Panthers, black wall street, occupy wall street, war protesters, hippies…

LeFantome ,

You are aware that Trump was indicted for Jan 6 right? The trial is on hold while the Supreme Court decides if he is totally immune to legal consequences.

SkyezOpen ,

Which is just a delay tactic. They aren’t seriously considering it. If they did somehow declare president’s immune for any action, biden could drop a hellfire missile on Trump and the Supreme Court and probably get away with it.

JasonDJ ,

Hold it off until after Trump is inaugurated and he could do whatever he wants.

SkyezOpen ,

I know a lot of people talk about civil war but if that happened I think that would actually pop off a civil war.

JasonDJ , (edited )

It’s a contingency. There’s a lot of ways that a small number of people can destroy a generation of progress this November and rewind us to the days when America was great. When wife beating was fashionable, gay people were just “confirmed bachelors”, and you could tell what was between a person’s legs by looking at their haircut.

For one, Trump is running for President, and somehow still has polls.

For another, every house seat and a third of the Senate is up the year.

Lastly, they already control the majority SCOTUS, and Mitch was nice enough to keep a not-insignificant number of lower court seats open until after Obama left office.

So if Trump wins, he already controls the court and will do whatever he wants. Checks and balances be damned. What’s gonna happen, an impeachment? Bah.

If Trump doesn’t win but Republicans manage to pick up a majority in the house/Senate, it’ll be a bit tougher time, but you can bet no leftist or progressive agenda will be a part of it. Unless somehow they manage a veto-proof majority, though I don’t think that’ll be possible.

And if Trump wins and they pick up seats in Congress? Well, buckle up, it’s gonna be a hell of a ride.

catloaf ,

Because we have free speech, and people have free will. Direct calls to violence are illegal, but if you say “won’t someone rid me of this troublesome Vice President”, then you’re not directing someone to do anything; any actions taken are on their own initiative. There isn’t even a “just following orders” defense.

ameancow ,

Because we have free speech, and people have free will.

And it would be ridiculous to think that being a former president, especially a media lolcow like Trump, doesn’t land you a guaranteed platform anywhere, at any time.

As long as everything, everywhere is commercialized including our news, every outrageous character and outrageous political outcome and outrageous tragedy will be another billboard, another rope to pull in viewers and raise a bottom line. We need independent media, but we need them to also be independent from the Wrestlemania spectacle the current batch feeds on and nurtures and grows and makes worse every day.

Gullible , in TRUMP GUILTY ON ALL 34 COUNTS

Conservative comments on this joyous event can be divided into three groups.

Group 1: how dare the government do this to our golden god!?

Group 2: this is good for Trump’s campaign for reasons

Group 3: the demonrats are going to say mean things about us

Note that none of these are “oh man, I might have been wrong to support him.” The complete absence of regret coupled with severe delusions around trump are more than slightly distressing in the long term.

orbitz ,

The lady in the article said she might change her mind about voting for him if he was convicted of election interference. Like he just was, mean not exactly but the reason it was a felony was due to the election campaign. Least if I understood correctly, otherwise they’d have been misdemeanors. Or something like that anyways.

kandoh ,

Presumably there is the sort of person who doesn’t trust the news but does trust the justice system ¯_(ツ)_/¯

RampantParanoia2365 ,

That’s so weird, because I am saying mean things about them, like, all the time.

SkyNTP ,

Admitting you were wrong is like really, really, really hard man. Takes a grown ass man to admit to one’s mistakes. But here we are, a bunch of manchildren and people who have drunk the cool aid and are beyond reasoning.

somethingsnappy ,

Don’t do the Koo-Aiid man wrong!

ours ,

And it was Flavor Aid anyway. Kool-Aid did nothing wrong.

explodicle ,

People rarely change their minds on politics all of a sudden because they have new information. This shit goes deep. At best they’ll slowly figure it out in a way that makes them feel smart.

stoly ,

There are definitely many people out there who will change their vote based solely on today’s outcome. How important an effect this will have remains to be seen.

acetanilide ,

I overheard my relatives today saying how dare they convict him of anything when our corrupt president hasn’t been charged with anything.

I really wanted to remind them that before they sold their soul to Trump they wanted every politician to be arrested and tried. Suddenly a politician is tried and they have second thoughts…

ours ,

When people are this far into a cult of personality, it’s not a court ruling in their imaginary conspiracy-filed world that would change a thing.

tsonfeir , in US House votes to force weapons shipments to Israel, rebuking Biden
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Everyone. THE REPUBLICANS sent the weapons.

homesweethomeMrL ,

Watch as all the totally-not-parroting-russian-propaganda crowd remain eerily silent.

BossDj ,

They must wait until they are fed the proper response.

It was just locker room talk

fuckingkangaroos ,

Exactly my first thought.

eskimofry ,

Right, all the anti-genocide protestors will disperse because a U.S bill that hamstrings any attempt to stop the genocide MAY fail… and hence critics will remain eerily silent.

Tinidril ,

The Republicans voted to pass a bill in the House to send the weapons. It will almost certainly fail in the Senate but, even if it doesn’t, Biden would have to sign it into law. I don’t see Biden signing a bill to override himself, and there is no way that Congress would get the required 2/3 in each chamber to override. This bill was just a performative stunt.

xantoxis ,

Sure but the point is, after months of pithy quips about how the Democrats will support genocide of the Palestinians and the Republicans will support genocide of everyone including the Palestinians;

here we see that even on this specific issue, the parties have differences. So make the right choice.

Tinidril , (edited )

Did I say otherwise?

This isn’t wrong, but this argument gets made over and over and over again in every political thread on almost every topic, whether or not it fits the flow of the conversation. People don’t want to be preached at and it’s going to be self defeating.

EDIT: Tone deaf establishment apologists are going to lose again and still not understand why. “Republicans suck more” is far less compelling than some people think, no matter how true. Winning elections and winning arguments are different things.

girlfreddy OP ,
@girlfreddy@lemmy.ca avatar

It says exactly that in the 3rd paragraph of the summary.

The act is not expected to become law …

Tinidril ,

Um, OK, but I was responding to a comment that said something different.

tsonfeir ,
@tsonfeir@lemm.ee avatar

A stunt to show the Republicans are sending weapons to Israel.

Wes4Humanity ,

Why would he have to sign it into law? He could veto it. Might even be just the excuse he needs to stop supporting a genocide. As if just supporting the genocide wasn’t enough, now he can say he’s not supporting the Republicans too.

Tinidril ,

That’s what I meant. For it to take effect he would have to sign it into law. There is no reason for him to do that.

Zaktor ,

Feels like they should be adding critical contextual information like this to the titles. I know the headline writers hate the idea of people just reading the headline to get informed (because clicks are needed for ads), but people do get informed that way. It’s a very different story if “Congress rebukes Biden on Israel” than “Republicans rebuke Biden on Israel”, and I expect “US House” translates into an average reader’s mind much more as “Congress” than “Republicans”.

Clent ,

Which is why we need tests before voting. The average American is too ill informed to be trusted with voting.

The Republicans have brought in all sorts of other hurdlers for voting but oddly nothing that would test the intelligence of their electorates.

Zaktor , (edited )

I can’t imagine how such tests would be fair and not abused. It might make for a more effective electorate if there weren’t so many poorly informed votes in the mix, but making that happen is almost certain to lead to abuse and very unlikely to produce the desired result.

fuckingkangaroos ,

making that happen is almost certain to lead to abuse and very unlikely to produce the desired result.

Lead to abuse agreed, but why do you think it’s very unlikely to produce the desired result?

Zaktor ,

Two reasons:

  1. Because it will lead to abuse and thus not try to measure political knowledge.
  2. Because a reasonably accessible test can’t really measure political knowledge. Even defining “politically knowledgeable” is hard. Do you need to watch Trump rally speeches to be politically knowledgeable? Do you need to know the three branches of government? Are we a democracy? Do we have free and fair elections? Can you be a single-issue voter, or do you need to prove you know all the other stuff?
fuckingkangaroos ,

Fair enough, I think I agree anyway, but the idea of an unbiased test that filters out ignorant people is appealing.

Frankly, democracy in it’s current form is struggling, so it seems like we need to make some serious adjustments.

Cryophilia ,

Civics test, not political test.

Zaktor ,

How does a civics test prove competency to vote. And do you bar someone from voting for not knowing what the three branches of government are? What’s the correct answer to “are we a democracy”? Is there a reason a single-issue voter shouldn’t be able to vote if they don’t know things irrelevant to their single issue?

Cryophilia ,

And do you bar someone from voting for not knowing what the three branches of government are?

Yes.

What’s the correct answer to “are we a democracy”?

Matter of opinion.

Is there a reason a single-issue voter shouldn’t be able to vote if they don’t know things irrelevant to their single issue?

No.

A civics test would confirm you understand how government functions. Not that you have the right opinions.

Clent ,

My proposal was sardonic. The right has tried to revive anti-voter measures but none that would reduce the ability of their halfwit supporters to cast their ballots.

homesweethomeMrL ,

Yeah they had those in the South in the 50’s and 60’s. It, uh, wasn’t a good thing.

Clent ,

Yes. That’s the joke. They can’t do it now because their constituents are morons.

Zaktor ,

Their constituents were morons back in the day too, they just made either separate tests or tests that for cultural reasons were easier for the “right people” to pass. Lots of them would have failed the literacy tests too, so they made alternate options that only white people would qualify for.

Xanis ,

Better say that louder. I can’t hear you over the general white noise all the blindly and mindlessly pointing fingers make.

goferking0 ,

After Biden sent more. This is just them sending back the big bombs

tsonfeir ,
@tsonfeir@lemm.ee avatar

While that may be so… it’s an important election.

xmunk ,

And that’s exactly why we can’t vote for genocide Joe. Don’t forget to sit out this election or vote third party - that’s the only way to have a meaningful impact and improve the lives of Palestinians! /s

tsonfeir ,
@tsonfeir@lemm.ee avatar

I almost at that onion ☺️

meeeeetch , in Romney Says He’d ‘Have Immediately Pardoned’ Trump If He Were Biden

Ford was, based on the behavior of the Reagan, W Bush, and Trump administrations, entirely wrong to pardon Nixon. There is no reason to repeat his mistake.

Nougat , in Eric Trump Tweets From Dad’s Trial Despite Electronics Ban

Prosecution should make a motion to exclude him from the courtroom.

formergijoe ,

Defense: “Our client doesn’t know who that is.”

Lon3star ,

Might be the desired outcome

modifier ,

Are you suggesting that Respected Businessman Eric Trump is so stupid that he thinks that he can avoid testifying by getting tossed from the courtroom?

jaybone ,

Can’t he be jailed for contempt without any of this “what will the secret service do” bullshit?

catloaf ,

Probably. Don’t courthouses have cells? Put him in one of those with the security detail. Hell, even just put him under house arrest with an ankle monitor and take away his cell phone.

ArbitraryValue , in The president could "assassinate" political rivals and still enjoy total immunity, Trump lawyer says

I wish Biden would make the following announcement:

It has come to my attention that Mr. Trump’s lawyers are currently attempting to convince the Supreme Court that it would be legal for me, the President of the United States, to have Mr. Trump killed. I imagine that this is a source of concern for Mr. Trump and so I want to reassure him and the American public that I believe doing so would, in fact, be a crime.

Poayjay ,

Same statement except he should say that it would be legal for him to kill 6 Supreme Court justices.

ZapBeebz_ ,

¿Por qué no los dos?

AngryCommieKender ,

Kurt Vonnegut wasn’t trying to be prophetic, I hope.

chiliedogg ,

“I’ll have Seal Team 6 waiting outside the Courtroom pending the outcome of the case. Choose wisely.”

FlyingSquid , in Judge upholds $83m E Jean Carroll defamation verdict against Trump
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negativenull ,
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ArtVandelay ,
@ArtVandelay@lemmy.world avatar

If you could post this when Trump is sent to rikers for 20 years, that would just be the best

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

I have it all ready.

VaultBoyNewVegas ,

Nah the track for that has to be celebratory.

mercano ,
@mercano@lemmy.world avatar

I don’t think Trump, at his age, has the flexibility to sit down in a chair at Riker’s Island.

randompasta ,

Commander Rikers Island

ChaoticEntropy , in Spotify CEO Daniel Ek surprised by how much laying off 1,500 employees negatively affected the streaming giant’s operations
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It’s almost like employees are more than just numbers on a spreadsheet. Who knew.

Rai ,

“People are PEOPLE? That’s not what I wanna hear…”

mPony ,

/ AI removes Depeche Mode from streaming playlist /

PopShark ,

Words are very unnecessary

ArtVandelay ,
@ArtVandelay@lemmy.world avatar

We refer to them as “human capital”

Olhonestjim ,

"You know; like people. That we own and can dispense with whenever needed. It’s the future!

T00l_shed ,

I prefer to look at them as a renewable resource. There will always be more orphans for the orphan crushing machine.

thatirishguyyy ,
@thatirishguyyy@lemmy.today avatar

Not this guy!

halykthered , in Dolphin found dead on beach riddled with bullets, NOAA offers $20k reward to find killer
@halykthered@lemmy.ml avatar

I want to know what the dolphen was wearing, maybe a dark hoodie. Will they release the arrest record of the dulphin? What was the dolphin holding? Why is so much media attention going to this one dolphon? All sea creatures matter. I read the fisherman thought it was his taser and feared for his life, let’s see how you react in a dark alley with a young dofin.

OneOrTheOtherDontAskMe ,

Dofin is their word, we really shouldn’t be using it at all. Dolphin is the acceptable spelling and term.

halykthered ,
@halykthered@lemmy.ml avatar

No no, it’s okay, my nephew is half porpoise, I can say that.

Thassodar ,

I heard the dolphin has no currently active warrants, and may have been armed, although no weapon was located at the scene.

cmoney ,

Well I’m 1/8 dolphin, my great great grandmother was a dolphin princess.

havokdj ,

Loooooool

ickplant ,
@ickplant@lemmy.world avatar

I’d really prefer if you used “D***n” instead of typing out the word. It’s kind of jarring to see it out there even in an educational context.

DrWeevilJammer ,
@DrWeevilJammer@lemmy.ml avatar

“HE HAD A BLOWGUN I FEARED FOR MY SAFETY”

roguetrick ,

If it was a dauphin that was shot, everyone in this corner of the Fediverse would be cheering.

root_beer ,

That Dolphin was No Angel!!! Stand for are Cop’s and Kneel for are Cross!

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

I hear he was buying skittles and a drink. Dolphin was clearly making lean.

ArbitraryValue , in Florida woman shoots interstate drivers, says God told her to because of the eclipse, police say

So today I drove five hours to see the eclipse, had a tire blow out, didn’t see the eclipse because of thick clouds, and got stuck in traffic for hours on the way back. (I’m still not home.) But at least I haven’t been shot by maniac, yet.

Lag ,

Any updates? It’s been 8 minutes, you’re starting to worry me.

ivanafterall ,
@ivanafterall@kbin.social avatar

RIP ArbitraryValue. Do you guys remember how excited he was about the eclipse there at the end? It's all he could talk about. That's what I'll remember most.

EdibleFriend ,
@EdibleFriend@lemmy.world avatar

I’ll miss him too, the eclipse lovin bastard.

JCreazy ,

If only we could have done something.

tal ,
@tal@lemmy.today avatar

You didn’t? I upvoted his last comment.

harrys_balzac ,

Upvote and F in the comments. I loved Arbitrary Value as much as I love any other random commenter.

blackluster117 ,
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We should erect a memorial of jeans and beans in their honor. It’s what they would’ve wanted.

Badkid ,

Hehe, erect.

Olhonestjim ,

We did all we could.

Cap ,
@Cap@kbin.social avatar

I remember when he blew a maniac in traffic who shot a thick cloud on his back for hours that he didn't get to see because of the eclipse. He never made it home because he was too tired.

ripcord ,
@ripcord@lemmy.world avatar

That’s close enough to how I remember it, too.

dyathinkhesaurus ,

You didn’t shoot anyone either tho, did you?

meco03211 ,

It’s been two hours. They for sure murdered someone.

pineapplelover ,

It’s been 6 hours I’m getting worried

AlecSadler ,

Asking the important questions

Buelldozer , in Property owner stunned after $500,000 house built on wrong lot: ‘Are you kidding me?’
@Buelldozer@lemmy.today avatar

The Title Company has to be sweating bullets right now. It’s their whole job to prevent problems like this.

Dkarma ,

It’s hilarious u think these shady developers hired a title company 🤣🤣🤣

girlfreddy ,
@girlfreddy@lemmy.ca avatar

An attorney for PJ’s Construction said the developers didn’t want to hire surveyors.

Buelldozer , (edited )
@Buelldozer@lemmy.today avatar

If that house had a mortgage then the lending bank almost certainly required the use of one. If it had a construction loan it too probably required a title search and certification.

Tyfud ,

Developers don’t mortgage individual houses, they were still trying to sell the house to someone according to the video, and offered to sell it to her at a discount.

Again, all in the video with all the answers :)

stoly ,

The video doesn’t appear if you default to reader view.

postmateDumbass ,

Montgomery Burns Slant Drilling Housing Company?

ShepherdPie ,

I could be wrong, but I thought you couldn’t get a mortgage for a house that isn’t already in a livable condition. That would have come after the thing was completed.

GreatAlbatross ,
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It may not be the same in the US, but in the UK, you can mortgage a new build project.

The company releases money in stages as the build progresses, normally.

Ranvier , (edited )

In the US this would be done with a short term variable loan called a construction loan that releases money in stages as the build progresses. Once finished if it’s not being paid off it would be refinanced into a more traditional mortgage. Mortgages are often pretty different in the US vs UK, most US mortgages are for fixed rates for 30 year terms whereas most UK mortgages are fixed for a much shorter period and then go to variable rates. So you’d be hard pressed to get a bank to agree to a fixed rate 30 year mortgage for a house that doesn’t exist yet.

bitchkat ,

they would have had a title company when they bought the land. Building a house on a plot they didn’t own after that doesn’t involve a title company. It was surveyors they apparently cheaped out on.

Tyfud , (edited )

Yeah, they admit in the video that the developers didn’t hire a surveyor. The developers are completely fucked here, and I think they know it.

If they had hired a title company, the company would have hired surveyors, so it’s pretty much a for sure thing they didn’t hire a title company. Developers usually only do that at closing when they sell the property.

stoly ,

I’m confused by why the landowner is being sued here.

DAMunzy ,

Because it’s the US of A. It’s hard to win lawyers fees so why not?

Stern ,
@Stern@lemmy.world avatar

Either the hail mary, being incredibly stupid, or possibly some form of insurance requirement.

Based on previously presented evidence option two seems likely.

SeaJ ,

They are suing everyone: the county, the contractors, the current owner, the kids of the dead previous owner. They are claiming everyone but them is being unreasonable and hoping a judge gives them some sympathy. They know they fucked up and are just hoping that either at least one of the people they sued caves or the judge is an idiot/easy to buy off.

frezik ,

This is common because our legal system is fucked up. Standard practice is to sue everyone remotely involved and let the judge throw it out as they see fit. Of course, the people tangently involved now need to spend money and effort making sure it gets thrown out.

They’re not going to get a judgment against her. Only question is how to make her whole at this point, and if trees were knocked down. That would require the cost of getting a comparable tree somewhere and putting it into the same spot with a reasonable chance to survive. You can imagine that gets quite expensive. In some states, it’s then treble damages, but I can’t find anything specific about Hawaii there. Possibly it doesn’t, since it doesn’t have the same forestry history that other states do.

bitchkat ,

They want a judge to force her into a settlement that allows the developer to own the land and house.

stoly ,

I’m betting they’re trying to get a judge to force her to take the house as payment so that everyone can walk away.

batmaniam ,

This crap happens (not that at it should and you’re correct). I know someone in construction. They leaned a property that the title company just… didn’t see the lien? Property was sold, The lien wasn’t bonded off or anything either.

It got resolved but man, that would have been a mess. I think at that point the new homeowner is on the hook, and would need to get their due by going after the title company?

bluewing ,

Yep, I have a good friend that ran into this issue on his home he bought 20 years ago. After 5 years of living in the home and making payments on it, it was finally discovered that there was no clear title to the property going back 60 years…

It took another 2 years to clean it all up, but it required the township, county, and a state agency to get involved to make a couple of problems “just go away”.

batmaniam ,

Thats insane. And at that point they were there for 7 years. Most people stay in there house longer, but any million things could have made them want to move in that window. Sick family member, job, whatever, and they would have been stuck.

bluewing ,

It wasn’t as bad as it sounds. No one was really contesting his ownership - least of all the bank. But a governmental paperwork error had been made a long time ago and no one caught the error until after he bought the property. But it took a long time to fix it due to different levels of government that needed to fix the original error.

My friend still lives there today and I doubt he will ever move out.

brygphilomena ,

Title insurance.

If you are buying property, you can get insurance against this exact issue. If the title is found to be incorrect or a lien is on the property then the insurance company has to deal with it.

batmaniam ,

That makes sense, I’d hope title insurance folks are easy to work with because that has to be one of those fields where like 99% of people never have a claim against it… at least a hope so lol.

bitchkat ,

The Title Company did their job. They were the ones that caught the error.

FlyingSquid , in Trump ramps up attacks on judge in hush money case following gag order
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THROW THE MOTHERFUCKER IN JAIL ALREADY!

Fapper_McFapper ,

Does Trump look black, hispanic or poor to you?

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

You never know… look at Epstein. Or Abramoff.

Fapper_McFapper ,

Sacrificial lambs I say! How are you feeling today squid?

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Not great, unfortunately.

But thanks for asking.

HWK_290 ,

Hang in there 🐈

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

I’m trying!

Fapper_McFapper , (edited )

Sorry to hear that. Hope you feel better soon.

I’d like to add, I had unexplained dry heavings in the mornings, nausea that lasted from the moment I woke up until the moment I went to sleep. I couldn’t eat anything because everything including the smell of food would make me dry heave. Any strong smell really. Turned out to be PTSD from the army. A friend recommended and provided a joint. I had been to neurologist, psychiatrist, and every known medical profession in between and nobody could help with the symptoms. The medications prescribed made things worse. That one joint literally saved my life. I say all this on the odd chance that you haven’t tried cannabis. Your symptoms and your anxiety sound so much like what I went through for years.

My apologies though, I don’t mean to pry. I just know how you feel right now. Hugs brother.

TimLovesTech ,
@TimLovesTech@badatbeing.social avatar

I have read great things about (magic) mushrooms with regards to PTSD also.

EDIT - I remember reading your post detailing your issues with food/smells somewhere around here not to long ago. That’s great that you’ve found something to provide some relief!

Fapper_McFapper ,

No, that’s not me. That’s flyingsquid.

Jaysyn ,
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They've worked wonders for my wife's CPTSD.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

I am a heavy user due to my trigeminal neuralgia, so it does not help on the gastro front, I’m afraid.

Fapper_McFapper ,

Well fuck. Sorry to hear that. Hang in there man, I really enjoy your posts and witty comments.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Thanks!

Zuberi ,
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WAIT? You’re a heavy user of what? Weed?

Bro you have CHS. I can almost guarantee it.

DM me mate!

https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/f0eca18e-d209-4d78-a5e2-76c650bc46ec.jpeg

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

You can almost guarantee it, but none of my doctors agree with you. Also, my symptoms don’t fit.

You’ve sent this to me over and over and you don’t even know my actual symptoms.

Zuberi ,
@Zuberi@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

You went across the country to basically have a doctor tell you that you have substance abuse problems…

I’m sure it went away briefly.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Okay, I am blocking you.

You have posted about this on multiple forums and have sent it to me multiple times privately. I have said over and over again that I do not want medical advice from internet strangers.

You think you know better than the best doctors in the U.S. about someone you’ve never met and whose symptoms you don’t understand. Even when I told you in PM that it had been ruled out, you still insisted it is. You don’t even know my medical history. All you know is I use cannabis and that there is a digestive issue that some cannabis users have and that’s what I have.

I don’t care if you’re the world’s expert on gastrointestinal and neurological problems and you went to Most Holy Medical School where Jesus himself taught you how to heal. You don’t know anything about me or my medical history and that alone makes any “diagnosis” you’ve come up with bullshit.

You’re as bad as my mother. But I can’t block her.

Zink ,

Even actual doctors will either decline to speculate or will discuss but make it abundantly clear that they are not your doctor and they are not giving you medical advice.

That’s because even real doctors need your history and your overall health picture in order to do their job correctly. There are ethical AND legal rules to enforce this.

FlyingSquid ,
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Thank you. Absolutely right.

Assman ,
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Well he ate a taco salad that one time

radicalautonomy ,
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He loves the Mexicans. I know this because one time he posed for a photo OP and gave a thumbs up to the taco bowl some worthless peon brought him from the taco place in his building before he ended up spraying diarrhea all over his gold-plated shitter and clogging it because he forgot to take the ultra-classified files out of it first.

BetaBlake ,

Pretty sure he is poor now

twistypencil ,

I’m ok with that

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

I’ve been okay with that for a very, very, very long time.

givesomefucks , in Trump bond lowered to $175 million as he appeals civil fraud judgment in New York

And he has 10 more days, at which point it’s likely to get moved back again.

If Trump had a couple ounces of pot he’d have been in jail this whole time.

Our justice system is fucked and neither party want to actually hold the rich accountable. Because the people who can do anything are rich.

We need to stop acting like some of these wealthy assholes have the average Americans best interest at heart.

NegativeLookBehind ,
@NegativeLookBehind@lemmy.world avatar

You think pot would do him in? Not the rape, embezzlement, fraud, treason, or tax evasion that he’s actually done?

givesomefucks ,

I really shouldn’t take the time to explain because I can already tell from your comment this won’t be productive…

But:

The point you missed was how punishment is wildly disproportionate, so in lots of places, a couple ounces of pot would get higher sentences for all those crimes you rattled off.

And the people who are arrested for a few ounces of pot, rarely have the money for lawyers to get out of it.

I really didn’t think it would be hard to infer any of that, but man have I been overestimating Lemmy recently. It really feels like the longer this goes on, the more hand holding needs done in comments.

Crackhappy ,
@Crackhappy@lemmy.world avatar

Thank you for taking the time and effort to explain it, as you’re right, inference is lost on the willfully stupid.

NegativeLookBehind ,
@NegativeLookBehind@lemmy.world avatar

Fuck you and your inferences

Crackhappy ,
@Crackhappy@lemmy.world avatar

No inference there. Have a great night my friend.

NegativeLookBehind ,
@NegativeLookBehind@lemmy.world avatar

Glad I was elaborate enough

Crackhappy ,
@Crackhappy@lemmy.world avatar

I keep upvoting you because I like you and disagree with you. Man, the hive mind is strong.

AmidFuror ,

I really shouldn't have to take the time to explain, but the parent comment was poorly written.

If Trump had a couple ounces of pot he'd have been in jail this whole time.

What you actually meant (according to your follow-up) was that if it had been someone poor with a couple ounces of pot, that person would have been in jail this whole time. But you wrote Trump, and then someone logically thought, "No, Trump would get away with that too."

The fediverse would be better if i) commenters were a bit more careful with their wording or ii) they didn't pounce on people rudely for misunderstanding them.

I hope this was productive.

Halosheep ,

Unproductive. Your inability to read intention is not the fault of the original commenter.

NegativeLookBehind ,
@NegativeLookBehind@lemmy.world avatar

You failed to mention that he’d also have to be poor for a weed charge to matter. Fuck inferences, you should be explicit in your explanation. But go ahead and be a total asshole if you want. I’m sure it’s par for the course.

Wrench ,

Or the open and liberal distribution of controlled substances while he was in the Whitehouse.

Nougat , in The Covid-19 pandemic killed off one strain of the flu, and that will change the next vaccines

Just imagine how many infectious diseases could be greatly diminished or eliminated if people, I dunno, listened to healthcare professionals.

state_electrician , (edited )

What do you mean by that? Social distancing is mostly what keeps these diseases at bay. But there’s an argument that social distancing comes with a hefty cost as we are a social species.

Edit: Wow, the circlejerk for certain topics is just as strong on Lemmy as it was on Reddit. I’m sticking with my point, though. Social distancing has heavy costs and is at this point not worth it. Of course people should wear masks if they are sick or if they want to protect themselves. And staying away from people when you’re sick and can do it has always been a good idea.

fuckwit_mcbumcrumble ,

Wearing a mask and staying away from people when sick is a much better approach. Also being aware of what being sick even is since some people just kinda ignore their symptoms as “a cold”.

i_dont_want_to ,

The culture I grew up with valued this type of thing.

Why did you miss work? A cold? If you’re not in the hospital and you’re not here, you are a slacker.

It doesn’t help when you don’t have any more paid sick time and you need to keep paying the rent.

It’s so infuriating that it feels like life is structured in such a way that it is difficult or impossible to recover from these types of things without exposing people to your own sickness.

No excuses for people that are sick don’t stay home when they have the opportunity though.

ETA: masking does definitely help though and I’m glad the culture doesn’t find it as unusual as before

kescusay ,
@kescusay@lemmy.world avatar

The thing about that kind of attitude is that it’s inherently self-defeating, because if you insist your employees come to work sick, they’re going to get everyone else sick too, and productivity will plummet even if everyone keeps showing up. Sick employees don’t perform well.

riskable ,
@riskable@programming.dev avatar

Sick employees don’t perform well.

You assume performance matters. A ridiculously large number of jobs are “bullshit jobs” and just require a body/someone to be there.

Example: When I was a teen I had a job at a roller skating rink that involved working at a snack bar. On Tuesdays (designated little kids figure skating practice time) the likelihood that anyone would enter the place was slim and the likelihood that someone would come to the snack bar was probably 1/10th of that. However, if the place was claiming to be open at that time they needed someone there. If only to prevent people from stealing the snacks/drinks 😁

Even at “modern” offices there’s tons of jobs that don’t have anything practically measurable in terms of “performance”. How do you measure the performance of a receptionist who’s job is to just hand people clipboards and then enter their info? Smiles? Typos? LOL

Even “fancy” jobs like “systems administrator” often have no realistic measure of performance. Did anything break today? No? Fantastic job 😁👍

theneverfox ,
@theneverfox@pawb.social avatar

Those are all useful things though - they’re not useless, they’re just not working at full capacity.

Systems administrators do have meaningful metrics though…

I’m assuming you mean glorified IT so I’ll start there. Hardware breaks down obviously, but do does software. They have update schedules, so every few months they have to test updates, research it, and decide how when to roll it out. They have to periodically check equipment, and convince the company on what to buy when. And obviously, at any time something can explode and stop the entire company from working

For systems engineers for more complex systems, you have the same things, except the stakes are much higher. So there’s a lot more math, test systems, and so on.

The metrics come from methodology, not just nothing going wrong.

When I think of a truly useless job, I always think about sales. What do they actually do? The better they are is basically how much they can force others to act suboptimally - to pay more, to buy more, to trust a product more because it came from someone charismatic.

I mean sure, they could be using their powers for good and actually helping connect buyers to appropriate products, but most of that is because marketing has muddied the waters. And sure, they might actually be handling necessary logistics with expertise others don’t have, but I’d go so far as to say most of them do more selling and less facilitating

It just seems like a lot of humans being stupid humans. It’s work we entirely created for ourselves. And sure, it makes money for a company… But even that’s just playing with made up numbers.

Which brings up a whole lot of even more roles based on stupid humans being stupid.

(And reception is again logistics and support - could you imagine walking into a doctor’s office and just waiting in an exam room until someone shows up? Their presence enables someone with presumably valuable skills to multiply their productivity)

i_dont_want_to ,

You are so very right. However, these facts do not deter these managers. (And other people that think like this.)

FlyingSquid OP ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

It’s such bullshit. I am ill with a mystery illness that I am going to the Mayo Clinic at the end of the month and have been for over a year now. Before I left my last job, I was told (after being told that they understood that I was sick and to take as much time off as I needed) that I had taken 80 hours of time off in the last year and I had to go on FMLA or quit. So I went on FMLA and then quit because I wasn’t getting any better. It’s been a good thing for a lot of reasons despite going down to a single income, but it’s bullshit that I should be put in that position because of health problems that I could not avoid.

i_dont_want_to ,

It is so much bullshit that you get put in that situation for something that isn’t your fault, but glad you had options. It is appalling how we neglect the sick and disabled. My partner was physically messed up for nearly a decade because she could not afford the healthcare or the time off needed. (Fortunately she is doing much better now after I could support her financially to get treated.) In a time of great abundance, this should not be a common occurrence.

I hope you find answers and relief soon.

FlyingSquid OP ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Thank you.

Nougat ,

I'm willing to bet that WFH plays a big role in public health.

BestBouclettes ,

I lost all hope when, at the end of the pandemic and the mask mandates, I saw clearly sick people out and about without a mask.
Like what the heck, wasn’t that enough of a lesson?
Sometimes I wish that COVID was more virulent than it was because it clearly didn’t traumatise people as much as it should have.

theneverfox ,
@theneverfox@pawb.social avatar

Wild pitch… What if we stayed home when we had “just a cold”?

Colds suck, it’s not macho to spread or be exposed to infectious diseases, and I have no idea why people act like it is

Everyone should have the ability to take sick days, but a lot of people have the ability to, no questions asked, and still come in to not “waste” PTO. I used to do that too - I didn’t even consider it until COVID

Nougat ,

What do you mean by that?

I mean that there are far too many people who insist on abusing the world we live in to our own detriment, that acute public health is one of the things that suffers, and that it doesn't have to.

schwim ,
@schwim@reddthat.com avatar

I loved the social distancing aspect of the pandemic.

BonesOfTheMoon ,

I missed eating in restaurants, but I didn’t get to WFH or anything during the lockdowns so I would have appreciated more isolation.

lennybird ,
@lennybird@lemmy.world avatar

This genius thinks he figured out what a consensus of medical and science professionals did not factor.

You know what else has a hefty social cost? Having parents and grandparents die in the family because of lazy scientific illiterate dumbfucks and grifters.

state_electrician ,

No, I did not. That’s why the CDC and other health agencies around the world are no longer recommending social distancing as a general rule. That’s my whole point, when people come along and argue what we could accomplish by continuing the harsh rules from COVID times.

lennybird ,
@lennybird@lemmy.world avatar

Help me follow your logic when you immediately bring up “social distancing,” from the following message you replied to:

Just imagine how many infectious diseases could be greatly diminished or eliminated if people, I dunno, listened to healthcare professionals.

…? Because this feels like a straw-man. The user you replied to said nothing about social distancing. Seemed to be a more generalized comment to me.

state_electrician ,

I jumped there because masks are fine, but the only thing that really keeps infectious diseases at bay is social distancing. Everything else like vaccines, masks and proper hygiene only limits the risks to some degree. Keeping away from other humans is the only thing guaranteed to work. That’s why I assume people mean this when they talk about measures to fight diseases.

lennybird , (edited )
@lennybird@lemmy.world avatar

You’re from a German instance if I understand Lemmy right (and odds are good I don’t), and if that’s the case perhaps you’re not aware that the message above was probably for an American audience because we had a lot of really, really ignorant conservatives under the Republican party banner who completely ignored the science and medical advice of experts, continued to socialize, continued to be anti-vaxx, anti-mask, and spread dangerous unfounded conspiracy theories to the detriment of millions. I’m sure Germany and other nations had a similar issue albeit to a lesser extend from what I understand.

As the original user said, if more people just heeded the vast consensus of experts in this field on this issue, we’d all be much better off. Instead, they’d rather listen to some right-wing media pundit tell them there is some grand conspiracy because it makes them feel better about themselves or something…

hazeebabee ,

I think the key is compromize and risk reduction. Sick people should stay home, mask if they need to go out, & be aware of what signs of infection are.

Its true social distancing is the only “100% effective” way to not get sick. But its kind of like abstinence-- most people are not going to do the “100% safe” thing, but they will take measures to make bad outcomes less likely. Which the cdc recognizes and has adjusted covid reccomendations to reflect what is most benificial for people as a whole (stay home if sick, but no need to isolate yourself from everyone).

Perfection is the enemy of the good and all that jazz.

frezik ,

There needs to be more pushback on the idea that “if we only save one life, it’s worth it”. Everything has tradeoffs. Domestic violence went up because of lockdowns. So did a lot of other social ills.

Was it worth that cost? Yes. Covid at the time was just that bad, and because we didn’t know enough about its infection factors, there were reasonable models that showed it could have been much, much worse than it was. However, that’s a tradeoff argument. Lockdowns did more good than harm. We shouldn’t pretend they did zero harm, and that idea that “if we only save one life” feeds into that.

andrew_bidlaw ,
@andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works avatar

What do you mean by that? Social distancing is mostly what keeps these diseases at bay. But there’s an argument that social distancing comes with a hefty cost as we are a social species.

There’s a more rational problem than seeing people at your will. It’s seeing people as you must. I had minor panic attacks with struggles to breath over commuting to work in overfilled busses, working around many people, because I didn’t have a pleasure to work from home at all although I could, easily, without a problem. I’m fine with living in a solitary confinement with the internet connected anonymously - I’m this weird, yeah - but my boss said no. And I was potentially infected and spread this shit to other people who probably got ill or died. I’m very adjusted to social distancing, but I and many had no chance for that.

state_electrician ,

Sure, that’s a valid critique of working conditions in our society. There’s a lot to be said and hopefully done about that.

Duke_Nukem_1990 ,

Maybe its not the circlejerk, maybe your opinion is just shit?

state_electrician ,

What about my opinion is shit, exactly?

BreakDecks ,

You’re getting downvoted, not entirely because people disagree with the point you are making, but becauase you are making a counterargument against something nobody said.

The topic is about staying home when you are sick. You’ve even agreed with that part. But for some reason you decided to come out swinging against social distancing even though nobody recommeded it or even brought it up in this context.

Given your need to strawman the original point with a stance generally championed by reactionaries, people are accurately determining that you are a reactionary and delivering a well-deserved downvote.

state_electrician ,

If you determine that then it is not accurate. The way I understood the comment I responded to they could only mean social distancing, I’ve explained that too. That’s not a strawman, that’s my (mis)understanding. And there are some topics on Lemmy where it really depends on chance what will get downvoted, depending on which crowd piles onto the thread. One such topic is nuclear power and the other big one is COVID policies. Not every argument you disagree with is in bad faith. Mine definitely wasn’t. Social distancing is a sore topic for me and people bring it up on Lemmy all the time as if it a viable solution and that pisses me off. So I might jump to conclusions occasionally. But like I said, the whole topic is not one you can have a serious discussion about on Lemmy because it’s apparently a sore topic for too many.

jballs ,
@jballs@sh.itjust.works avatar

Or at least stayed home when they were sick. That was such a nice cultural change from COVID that I really hoped it would stick around. But nope, people went right back to just “toughing it out” and going to work/school while sick.

Mjpasta710 ,

People in my area/life (most) aren’t given sick days and are expected to use their short (if even able) PTO allotments. If they take a vacation and get sick later - their options are work or miss bills. To me, I understand why folks tough it out. I’d like society to care about health for the whole, most can’t afford to do that.

Erasmus , in Supreme Court restores Trump to ballot, rejecting state attempts to ban him over Capitol attack
@Erasmus@lemmy.world avatar

States rights only apply when not direct conflict with conservative views’

  • John 22:16
Ullallulloo ,
@Ullallulloo@civilloquy.com avatar

More like states rights only apply when not delegated to the United States by the Constitution. They should really have written that down somewhere.

DontRedditMyLemmy ,

And you definitely always believe this should be applied consistently?

Ullallulloo ,
@Ullallulloo@civilloquy.com avatar

Yeah

assassin_aragorn ,

They also probably should’ve put something about how the rights explicitly mentioned in the Constitution were not our only rights, and the explicit mention of some rights did not disparage other rights. That way the conservative court wouldn’t have been able to say “we can’t find a right to xyz in the Constitution therefore it isn’t a right”.

If only there was a Ninth Amendment or something, and a way to hold the Court accountable to it.

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