There’s some appliance breakdown vids (idk if Rossman is one of them) but the gist is Samsung and LG like to put cheap plastic parts in high wear locations which inevitably fail.
Fridges are dead simple appliances. A compressor and evaporator coils with a temperature sensor. There’s absolutely no reason they shouldn’t outlast you and everyone you love.
It’s insane these “premium” brands are built to fall like they do.
I mean, having to replace a fridge every few years because it constantly breaks in a way that’s uneconomical to repair will cost you a lot more in the long run.
That’s the thing, it’s more expensive being poor.
You’d be better off getting a 2nd hand quality brand from a wealthy suburb when they remodel their kitchen every 5ish years or so.
Sure it costs more in the long run, but the majority of people live paycheck to paycheck, do you think they want to go and pay 25k for a full set of appliances just so they’ll save money over 30 years when they can barely afford to pay for their basic needs?
Even second hand, they’re still way more expensive than the basic shit from economical brands…
Bit of a straw-man argument there: firstly you don’t need to spend that all in one hit; the break even point is a lot sooner than 30 years; and lastly, paying to replace cheap shot that breaks quickly with more shit that breaks quickly is one of the traps that keeps prone living paycheck to paycheck.
My two examples below:
Samsung dryer died after 3yrs, out of warranty, broke in our 20s, couldn’t afford to replace it. Lucked out finding an ANCIENT Miele condenser dryer on Marketplace for $50. Not only did that thing last us another 3 years before it started tripping the circuit breaker, it was cheaper to run than the old unit and ended up saving us enough money that we were then able to invest in a brand new Bosch unit that’s still going today (7+ years).
LG refrigerator died in a little over 3 years, due to a known compressor fault; uneconomical repair even though it was still under warranty, so we got a full manufacturer’s refund. We bit the bullet, did our research and went with a Made in Japan Hitachi model. It’s always outlasted the LG, and is again more energy efficient that we’re saving a few bucks a month on electricity.
I will reiterate; it’s expensive being poor. Buying a better quality second-hand unit rather than a new ‘commodity brand’ appliance is just one of the small ways to make things a little less expensive.
Getting loans for things is part of the reason why it’s expensive being poor.
The average US credit card charges ~22% interest and there are a crap-tonne of sub-prime loans that prey on desperate people that charge a hell of a lot more than that! A ‘cheap’ $500 dryer will end up costing close to double that by the time the loan ends up paid off.
This isn’t a ‘have you tried just not being poor?’ comment; I’ve been in a similar position for the entirety of my 20s and a good chunk of my 30s, before I learned that there was nothing wrong with going against consumer culture and buying an older, quality second hand product.
Becoming financially mature is probably the most painful part of becoming an adult, in multiple senses of the word.
An insulated box with a decent compressor does not cost 10k. Making a compressor that fails after 2 years is actually hard to do, something both LG and Samsung spent time and money to achieve.
Consider, for example, that nearly every car manufactured with an AC. Which is exactly the same tech as a fridge. Yet you rarely end up needing to replace the compressor on your car. You might need to recharge it or clean it, but not replace the compressor. 10k of your car price isn’t the HVAC.
There are premium brands that do well, but there are also non premium brands that do pretty well. GE, for example, tends to make fairly reliable product (even today) for roughly the same price point of samsung/lg.
That’s the problem. A lot of those high-end, expensive appliances are built just as shitty as the low-end, basic models. The difference is just some bells and whistles and a higher price tag.
I have no problem paying extra for a higher quality, better built appliance. But the challenge is differentiating those from the low quality, built as cheaply as possible appliances that have just been marked up with a premium price tag.
At least when I buy the cheap, shitty model, I get what I paid for.
he’s involved in right to repair and has youtube channel where hem mostly talks about how brands try to avoid questions on repairability and sustainability
Honestly I don’t get why Rossman cry so much about “he expected that his $2000> LG TV would not track him or at least have the option turned off by default.”
Why shouldn’t they? Why would anyone expect in the first place that by buying a more expensive product they are going to care about your data? Obviously it benefits them to sell everyone’s data, from Rossman’s point of view it sounds like people who buy cheap products deserve to have their data sold because the company is making a loss by selling them the product.
I usually agree with Rossman’s points, but this one in particular sounds ridiculous to me.
He shits on everyone all the time. It’s not exclusive to LG or even Apple. It’s just whatever happens to come to his attention. Which is basically pick a company and they’re doing something horrible.
I like our used Samsung dryer. For basic drying. It has all those other bells and whistles that I don't care about, but it's done well for years. That damn finished drying tune though...with the option to turn it off or...not turn it off. omg
I like the washer and not the dryer. Had the set for 4 years. No issues with the washer but the dryer literally leaks lint. The trap doesn’t catch it and it gums up my vents in 2 months.
Good to know. I regularly pull it out and clean the vent with a vent extension brush anyway, once I got a house with a long vent where all sorts of things can settle. Huge fire hazard that most home owners don't even think about. It seems to be catching the lint it ought to be, but perhaps this goes back to the idea that even in a line of product you can have good and bad machines made.
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For people interested an extensive report by French appliance store after sale service. It gives the reliability of each brand. There is a note for the reliability, ease and cost of repair.
7 years ago I bought a brand new Samsung washer and dryer. After I hooked up everything for the washer (correctly), when I set it to hot water, cold would come out, and vice versa. Had it taken aware and Lowe’s replaced it with another brand new one. This time, the two guys who dollied in the firstly one, I had them hook everything up. Exact same thing happened. Hot for cold, cold for hot. These two guys were flabbergasted. They couldn’t believe two brand new washers were having the same defect. Same two guys brought another one the next day. Finally, the third one worked correctly.
I haven’t had any problems since. But still, ridiculous it took three tries to get a functioning washer.
Three out of four of those corners (including the one in which the gummies are a misdemeanor) are also within the Navajo Nation. Kinda feels like that tribal jurisdiction ought to matter.
They don’t necessarily. Historically they didn’t have jurisdiction over non-tribal members. Now there are some detainment powers, but it is not 100% clear still.
Each nation has its own agreement with the USA that defines these things, it’s weird. I think it’s in Wisconsin where tribe members retain hunting and fishing rights to a lake sold as a private lake, when cops showed up, they had to let them fish and hunt or the land would be returned to the tribe. As per the agreement from long ago.
Ummm that is a sold sort of. It is more clear now, but is history tribal police couldn’t reinforce the law or even detain non tribal members. After a supreme court ruling and a new federal law tribal place have some power over non-tribal members. But not to necessarily to the extent of other local law enforcement.
Pfft, I always buy a frozen pizza specifically because I already know I’m not gonna feel like cooking after grocery shopping because it sucks. I don’t even pretend anymore. All that fresh food is for another day.
I specifically buy easy dinner stuff while.im out shopping for the same reason. I spent an hour getting food so now imma take it easy and eat this mac and chicken strips from the deli.
I’m curious how your shopping trips look like to be called exhausting, i just bike to the store, scan the products, stuff them in my backpack, pay, and bike home. Takes 15 minutes tops if i don’t leisurely walk around looking at the shelves.
I’m not the person you replied to, but when I go grocery shopping I usually buy ~$200 worth of groceries and expend a bunch of energy hauling them all up 3 flights of stairs to my place which can be tiring, plus traffic to/from the store, plus putting them all away, clearing space in the fridge, etc.
I’d guess it’s a combination of the physical and mental tolls of grocery shopping.
As a family that tries to cook as many of our meals as possible and generally visits the store once a week, it can be a big endeavor. To make balanced, healthy meals for the whole week requires a large variety of ingredients. This makes meal planning before the trip and having a list necessary, and then there’s a lot of searching for things that may not always be in stock.
Additionally, we often restock household necessities and toiletries on this trip as well, which requires more planning and a longer list. Add all this together with carrying all the bags, putting things away, etc, and it can be pretty exhausting.
I’ve been on both sides and they’re both true. Biking in to get ingredients for one meal is quick. Taking a car to gather a week’s supplies (I still have to go back for something later) is a bigger endeavor.
I try to time it with my work schedule, which changes a lot. Old people block aisles and chat from 10 to 12. It’s deathly busy from 3 to 5.
Taking a look at the other replies can certainly explain how American grocery stores became such big places. I’m American, but have the luck of comparing to European town layout and actually being walking distance from a grocery store. Theoretically, if the shops (and streets and parking lots) themselves were smaller, you could make frequent backpack-sized trips for fresh whatever because it would be a tiny distance.
I’m in the UK, the supermarket is less than 10 minutes away by car, but it seems impossible to spend less than an hour in there shopping for a family of 4. There’s a smaller shop in walking distance, but everything costs more there and it’s not economical for a weeks worth (not to mention the more limited range).
My solution is to pay the big store to pick it for me, then I just collect it. Cheaper than delivery, they’re the ones sat waiting for me and if there’s a sub I don’t like or something I forgot, it’s just a quick visit, not an odyssey.
Still use the local but just for top ups if needed
This is just like the dumb HR tests that are like "You see a coworker engage in inappropriate behavior. Should you A. Notify your supervisor, B. Punch them in the face, C. Piss on the floor.
At least the correct answer is obvious instead of a test with vaguely-worded trick questions and ambiguous answers. Those are the tests that make me livid.
I work in a place that’s closed off to the public by Federal Law, where you need to badge in, just a janitor, nothing fancy, they make us watch training videos and stuff. They warn us to pay maximum attention, because we’ll be barred from the site if we fail, losing our jobs in the process.
And the questions are things like
“Which of the following is safe to drink? A) Filtered Water, B) Literal Poison, C) Lava, D, A School Bus”
It’s so blatantly rigged in the favor of the test taker that I suspect they literally wouldn’t even have the test if it wasn’t a legal requirement.
We also keep getting tested for things that don’t even make sense, like recently we were meant to watch a thing on where and when it’s safe to take a smoke break… Despite the fact that tobacco and marijuana are banned form the site and will be confiscated by security if we bring any… So what exactly are they smoking
Oh right, we’re meant to be smoking chocolate, forgot the Troy McClure film.
Seriously though, most of my training is entirely irrelevant as they involve scenarios I’d never be in due to the nature of my job, scenarios I’m literally not allowed to be in, or scenarios that don’t even exist in the first place…
And the questions are always things like
“If your supervisor asks you to do something illegal should you…” and the answers are non-sequitur alongside the real answer, like - A) Report it to the company hotline for illegal activity 555-555-5555 B) Oppress Women & Minorities, C) Run naked into a blizzard, D) Jump off a cliff and into spikes, or E) Pray to Magi-Chan Sonichu in order to hasten the coming of the Dimensional Merge"
The most subtle examples of this are when they ask a question, and one of the answers is suspiciously and overly detailed, while the others are so overly generic that it’s like they wrote the right answer for one, and then just whatever they can think of off the top of their heads.
fun fact but I find the opposite to be true in trivia games, if an answer is too detailed it’s more likely to be false. That’s how I won a trivia game about the life of some guy when I barely recognised his name
We have such a test too, but not as extremely dumb. But it’s still in the realm of: how do you wear your high-vis-vest? A: well visible from all sides B: hidden under your jacket to not get it dirty.
See, you and I may think things like this are obvious but there are some idiots out there that need to be told the obvious things otherwise they end up doing the truly stupid things.
These are less for your education as it is for management/HR to absolve responsibility: “We trained them to not do <xyz>, it’s not our fault they did it”
I never see it brought up but. We were told not to constantly! Unless you were rich you weren’t supposed to have kids and now they are shocked people listened to them. It’s been said for at least 100 years
I had the same experience and always wondered whether I lived in a weird bubble. Maybe there’s a couple of weird bubbles out there. But no one I know in my generation or the adjacent generations has ever been told or pressured into having kids. Hardly anyone had parents who took it for granted they’d have grandchildren. It was more like school first, career first, stability first, happiness first, self fulfillment first, and then maaaaybe you can think about whether you want a kid in your life but we don’t recommend. All the sex ed throughout school was focused on how to avoid pregnancy and STIs and how to pleasure oneself and your partner (which I don’t want otherwise, just pointing it out).
You may need to listen better. In all of that was the implied, “so you’ll be able to provide a good home for your family”. In all of that was the expectation that getting married and having kids were a normal part of life, but work much better when you establish yourself first
This is just the latest trend of shitpost, I mean we had beans, we had Beef Stroganoff, and now people are posting Jemes, each time people say they are fed up with it after a couple days. This too shall pass.
Same thing happens in the communities for AI images. Some user will make a picture of a clever idea, but then other users copy the idea and beat the dead horse.
I don’t get it. They literally have the tools to make images of any idea, and they choose to use it to make somebody else’s idea over and over.
Depends - sometimes you see a concept that you think you can improve on. Or maybe you read about their workflow how they did the image, learn something new and want to add your own spin. I don’t think, that’s a problem per se, as art is often iterating and innovating and that this is the root of creativity.
The problem is more when everyone does it and the whole community gets flooded with the same image concepts/jokes. In this case, the AI communities may get hit even worse in this regard, as it’s very easy to generate images and there’s less skill needed than if you had to draw/photoshop/… the whole meme all by yourself, which means it’s easier to enter the dead-horse-beating.
Sadly. I will ever understand the mindset of taking joy from bandwagoning. “yay, I’m doing something completely and utterly unoriginal for the 10000th time, wooo!”
Lazy jokes that are sometimes funny. Just like normal lazy jokes people repeat. It’s not a new phenominon. It’s just a new medium. A “new medium” that’s decades old.
Also, most new Reddit refugees at this point (and I feel like there’s been a minor surge lately because of all the IPO crap) probably haven’t internalized that there’s no system-wide karma here, and karma-whoring is entirely pointless in the context of the fediverse.
i visited this in person, they even sell mini versions of the statue with the cone on the head. kind of weird that the government still considers it “vandalism” at this point
That’s a Dahir Insaat concept. They frequently come up with some absolutely insane ideas, like the bed that can be triggered to drop into a “safety box” during an earthquake.
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