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undergroundoverground ,

Its okay, as I neoclassical economist, I know exactly how to fix this issue.

Tax breaks for the rich.

Ask me to solve any economic problem, I have the answers.

undergroundoverground ,

I think you know as well as I do that your honesty and integrity in describing how people are being fucked over by this process excludes you from neoclassical economics. Its always easy to catch out the fakers.

I mean, how am I supposed to justify tax breaks for the rich with that?

undergroundoverground ,

So close: “tax breaks, for the rich.” If poor people stop paying tax too, whos going to pay to enforce enforce all the exploitation and wealth extraction done by the rich?

undergroundoverground ,

Yeah but, if it was remotely enjoyable, then you might make 2 or maybe even 3% less profit for the lazy, workshy scroungers who own the company.

We can’t have that now can we?

undergroundoverground ,

After blast off, the static T forms a new a new acronym of evil with the infamous L, G and B.

Wake up sheeple.

undergroundoverground ,

I get the feeling, I really do. However, I can’t think of many things that would radicalise someone more than losing all their money or being buried under a pile of debt. Being these sorts of types, they’ll only go one way. On reflection, I’m sure you recognise the very specific and historically recognisable tinder box.

I mean, it still might not be immoral. They can all get fucked. Just, maybe not in that specific way is all im saying.

undergroundoverground ,

Well yeah, the real power (capital) is making even more money from their work. Of course they’ll pay them for being better at it. Its cheaper to pay CEOs more to be horrible than it is to pay people more.

Capital is the problem and shareholders are delighted when anyone takes out their anger on CEOs. I mean, its part of what they pay them for.

undergroundoverground ,

They wouldn’t have been allowed to win otherwise

undergroundoverground ,

*ACAB, in their capacity as cops.

undergroundoverground ,

Its ok, they’re doing it to a group of people who also make their money from taking other peoples money. So, cheer away at the poetic justice.

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undergroundoverground ,

That reminds me of two orthodox Jewish guys who were arrested on charges of antisemitic hate, by the metropolitan police, for burning an Israeli flag.

  1. Equating Israel with wider Jewish-ness is actaully antisemitic, unlike burning a flag. So, the only antisemitism there was conducted by the police. The met keeping up its proud tradition of institutional racism there.
  2. These boys are going to get hauled up in front of a judge on antisemitism charges, only to be asked swear to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth

On the fucking Torah

undergroundoverground ,

Rule # 1 of signing an NDA: you’re not allowed to say that you signed an NDA.

undergroundoverground ,

I mean, who else other than your last employer would it be with?

undergroundoverground ,

Breaking it in any way means you will likely have to pay back any money they gave you immediately.

Personally, I would consider that to be a repercussion.

undergroundoverground ,

I mean, you can break any rule, law or agreement without facing repercussions, if you don’t get caught.

undergroundoverground ,

There might be repercussions, if we get caught though.

undergroundoverground ,

But, if you can find exactly what you’re looking for, you’ll finish up and stop watching adverts.

undergroundoverground ,

…well, technically that would be considered a ceremony of sorts.

undergroundoverground ,

I mean if anything, surely that justifies their claim of wage slavery even more no?

undergroundoverground ,

He should sell his instant work-teleportation device for money instead of working

undergroundoverground ,

Still not the weirdest sherman tbf

undergroundoverground ,

Lol jokes on you. I already have autism. So, vaccines just make me stronger.

undergroundoverground ,

Bold of you to presume they ever cared if they were wrong.

undergroundoverground ,

The circle is complete

undergroundoverground ,

Makes sense, the police exist to protect the assets of the rich and powerful. Everything else they do is a side hustle to justify their authority.

Now, some of that side hustle may be necessary to society but it’s always been just that.

undergroundoverground ,

Classic trek.

The saddest part is that I really thought we had the potential to become the federation. It turns out, we were always just the farengi.

undergroundoverground ,

Nothing about capitalism is beautiful.

In the real world, some wealthy, work shy scrounger, born to wealth, will decide that they like the idea of gouging people as much as possible for water. As such, they’ll lobby the government to make sure its the only product available. Or, they’ll buy out all the competitors, making it the only product available.

Thats because capitalism ruins everything it comes into contact with.

undergroundoverground ,

But we can’t have capitalism without lobbyists or money in politics, as can be seen by the fact that we have a single democracy that hasn’t been utterly perverted by capitalism. As such, the issue is capitalism and its toxic effect on everything it comes into contact with.

undergroundoverground ,

I don’t remember saying it required lobbyists or that anything I said required it to be true but I can see why you had to stoop to pretending that I did. I would’ve struggled too.

WE can have it without them, as can be seen by the fact that we can’t have capitalism without them. Maybe capitalism could hypothetically exist without them but not on this planet or with us as the species using it.

Can you show an example of a democracy that hasn’t been utterly polluted by capitalism?

Also, love the copy paste, as if it proved anything here. Link your source or its just random BS you stuck > in front of. Also, also “actually, wealthy interests disenfranchising you of your vote and your democracy of validity is a good thing…” too funny.

undergroundoverground ,

Representative democracy has its problems but that doesn’t mean it can’t and isn’t further corrupted by capitalism.

Well, when the capitalist powers want something those counties have, they also install dictatorships and theocracies. In fact, capitalism doesn’t care what system it is, it will corrupt and toxify them all.

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undergroundoverground ,

I mean, after all, their problem is that they want more workers, so they can make more money. Letting people work less defeats the point.

It’s our fault for ever thing they would try to fix their problem by making their own problem worse.

undergroundoverground ,

Time is, change isn’t. Time is how we measure change.

undergroundoverground ,

Lol, well, seeing as time or change is a dimension and direction, like any other, tthat’s like saying width or height is an illusion.

undergroundoverground ,

What effect does the distinction between that and “the best way we have for our minds to think about it” have on it?

Also, unless i remember it wrong, I thought it was relativity that showed the flaws explanation quantum physics’ had for time and not the other way round. I mean, I might be but that’s my understanding of it right now.

undergroundoverground ,

Interesting, I appreciate it thanks. I see what you’re saying and I think you’re right. Its not right to the exclusion of something else. That was too far. I must have gotten way too excited lol.

You know what it is? I just straight up dont like it. Its about time people started calling out time on its bullshit.

This stuff about the price reductions after 4 years of blatant gouging is really freaking me out

I mean, that’s 4 years of our lives taken! 4 years of opportunities that were more challenging because they wanted a number on a computer to go up! 4 years of feeling worse than necessary about my finances and management of them and general personhood because i felt like i couldn’t afford anything because everything was...

undergroundoverground ,

100%. Unfortunately, somewhere down the line, American style neoclassical economics because simply “economics” or even worse “just basic economics.” Suddenly tax breaks for the rich became the all curing treatment for any economic ailment.

Too much money to spend on healthcare? Tax cuts for the rich.

Too little money to spend on healthcare? Also tax cuts for the rich.

In terms of fixing every problem even, I’m yet to hear what it can’t do.

My favourite was when you had every economically illiterate stock bro in existence claiming along the lines of “no, I’ve glanced at a couple of margin calculations i made for 2 companies, at one point in the supply chain, and, as such, I know price gouging couldn’t possibly have happened.” They dont know enough about inventory keeping to explain to them that they can’t tell either way, bless them.

undergroundoverground ,

100%. The British army, at the time, was good for little more than putting down colonial rebellions against vastly inferiors foes.

Tbf to them though, at the time, no one had any reason to expect hundreds of mobile artillery fortresses, driven by methed out nazis, to appear 50 miles behind them.

undergroundoverground ,

Its funny, no one insists on that correction, when it comes to the Roman or British empires.

undergroundoverground ,

Again, said without a hint of irony. Please get some self awareness before replying again. Youre taking the sport out of it.

Some of us are capable of holding all the contributing factors in their heads and not just ignore the ones they dont want to talk about. It doesn’t mean we don’t have our own problems but it also doesn’t mean that there isn’t another very serious problem at hand.

undergroundoverground ,

Clearly you think yourself far smarter than you are. Especially considering you can’t even see yourself fall foul of the fallacy you claim to see. As adorable as it is, I remember when I first found out about fallacies too, its a bit boring and it wouldn’t make me wrong either. That is if you bothered learning any of the other fallacies.

Let me help you, as you’re clearly struggling here: why is it that only the Europeans, in this instance, that have to own their crap? Why are we not allowed to consider any other contributing factors? How is me mentioning another factor, while not denying the problems at home, not owing it?

It doesn’t make sense does it?

undergroundoverground , (edited )

Bless your little heat. Like I said, I remember when I first discovered fallacies too. So, I understand why you think they’re news for other people. Ironically though, again, you forgot the fallacy fallacy.

As in, even if you weren’t wildly wrong and falling foul of the very fallacy you claim to see, it still wouldn’t make my position wrong.

So, rather than post things you clearly don’t understand, why not engage the subject?

Lol jk, anyone reading this will know why you can’t.

undergroundoverground ,

I can understand that. I imagine the main cause is what you’ll find if you look into “operation gladio.”

undergroundoverground ,

I agree completely and i respect you giving context. I hope you can understand, its not that common that people realise that.

undergroundoverground ,

It might well have been, had i made that claim.

undergroundoverground ,

Thanks but I didn’t need it. Maybe try the explanations without pictures next time. Thats probably where you went wrong.

Your problem is that you presumed to be saying that to someone who didn’t know anything about fallacies and not someone who knows them better than you. So, now you’ve gone and made a fool out of yourself. Even funnier that you’ve doubled down on your fallacy fallacy and had to resort to such pathetic deflections.

Please carry on though, you’re hilarious.

undergroundoverground ,

My favourite is when nazis say it because, by their own logic, thatwould make the Jews the master race.

undergroundoverground ,

For sure and for me, i think the best way to think of it is if there was a department called “computer resource department.” No ones is going to convince themselves that its there for the benefit of the computers, as its clearly there to get as much profitability out of them as possible.

undergroundoverground ,

That would be closer to a doctor department for humans no?

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