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theedqueen , in Adopting a stray cat

That person and their neighbor should have had the cats fixed

pigup ,

Frfr

iAmTheTot ,

And also keep them indoors.

CraigeryTheKid ,

Outdoor “house” cats are slowly becoming my greatest peeve.

Veneroso ,

When we had cats, I made sure that they were spayed and neutered. But they’re not good for the bird population. They should be kept indoors, not to mention how easily they catch fleas. It had gotten to the point that none of the over the counter solutions worked, and you need to take out a small loan to afford to properly treat them.

iAmTheTot ,

They’re not good for the birds, but perhaps even more importantly, the outdoors isn’t good for them. The life expectancy of an indoor cat versus an outdoor cat can be 10+ years longer.

datelmd5sum ,

What counts as an outdoor cat? Ours spends her days in the backyard on a leash.

iAmTheTot ,

Backyard on a leash and monitored is very responsible! When people say outdoor cat, they are typically referring to cats that are allowed outdoors with no leash and no supervision.

Worstdriver ,

Growing up, (I’m in my 50s) we had an orange tabby that went indoors and outdoors as much as he wanted. The cat supplemented his kibble by killing and eating (confirmed by observation) birds and rodents in the area. He lived to be 23. Most cats like him that I’ve known all had lifespans into the high teens.

I think you mean feral, as opposed to outdoor. In which case I would agree with your statement.

I should add, that as an adult, I currently own two cats obtained from rescue services and both are exclusively indoor cats.

iAmTheTot ,

No, I don’t mean feral. I said what I meant.

Worstdriver ,

Then can you quote your source for your statement? My experiential information is counter to your claim, so I would like to see your data so I can improve my understanding.

cheers_queers ,

i could throw in my own anecdotal experience of being raised owning dozens of cats over my life, that the outdoors is very dangerous to tame cats. my dad counted it as a win if a couple kittens from each litter of our tamed barn cats would make it a year. even out in the country we had “traffic” kill a decent amount, and the wild animals did the rest. not to mention eating partially rotted dead animals and getting sick, etc.

but I prefer data, which shouldn’t be that hard to find. :)

Worstdriver ,

Weirdly enough, actual lifespan comparisons seem to be very hard to find. Studies showing slightly higher disease (4%) rates. Higher rates of eating things their owner didn’t give them. Higher dangers from traffic, cars, etc. but I have yet to an actual study with lifespan numbers, let alone the 3-5 yrs vs 10-15 I’ve seen bandied about.

I’m still looking for it as a lower lifespan sounds logical, but I’ve seen enough things defy apparent logic to not just accept the statement without supporting documentation.

Let me clear. I support in principle the statement that indoor cats live longer, I just haven’t found the proof for it yet.

iAmTheTot ,

It should seem somewhat obvious after thinking about it for a moment. Outdoor access means more exposure to diseases and parasites, exposure to predators, and exposure to traffic.

Here’s just one study. royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/…/rsbl.2018.0840

I encourage you to ask any vet or your local humane society.

Worstdriver ,

Appreciate not getting a snarky comeback. My personal experience has been outdoor/indoor cats lead long, satisfying lives. But my experience could be an outlier which is why I asked for your source.

Will definitely give this a read once I’m done work. Again, much appreciated

qwerty ,

Are cats not allowed to reproduce anymore?

Veneroso ,

Unfettered? No. Feral cats often aren’t cared for and live suffering lives. They have significantly shorter lives. They’re domesticated animals and aren’t suited to life in the wild. We bred that out of them. They fare better than dogs, but they deserve better.

I just buried one that some asshole dropped off near my house. My dog doesn’t do well with cats and I found them scrapping in the yard. I pulled them apart, literally the cat had several claws stuck in my dog’s face. I went out a few times to make sure that it was ok. After about 20 minutes it was gone. Three days later I go out to see my dog barking at the road. It seemed like the cat was back. Either running away from my dog or distracted by her, it lay dead in the road. It has been run over by a car or a truck. Blood everywhere. I put my dog in the house and scooped it up into a bucket and buried it with my shovel.

This wasn’t just some feral cat. It was friendly and had known the love of people. Unfortunately, that love wasn’t enough to do what was right. It deserved better. This happened about a month ago and it still bothers me.

Get your pets spayed and neutered. If you can’t afford to house the results of your irresponsibility, then at least do right by them, and make sure they go to loving homes, instead of dumping them off at someone’s farmhouse in the country.

qwerty ,

Yeah being homeless sucks, what does that have to do with cats reproducing?

Even if we assume that all unplanned kittens end up homeless, it’s still some twisted version of financial cat eugenics. “Your life will probably not adhere to my standards of what a good life is, so I will prevent you from existing in the first place for your own good. I will cut off your balls because your kids would be homeless.”

Now apply the same logic to humans. I know we are talking about cats but from a moral standpoint it should make no difference, the degree of “bad” might change, it’s less bad if you do that to an animal and more bad if you do that to a human, but in both cases it’s still bad. I can’t think of anything that this logic doesn’t apply to, even when it comes to something we do all the time like killing, if you do that to a human, that’s murder, which is obviously terrible and if yo do that to an animal, that’s acceptable, because we need it for food to survive but it’s still bad. If we could get meat any other way I don’t think anyone would be opposed to that.

If you don’t want to get castrated by aliens\AI overlords then don’t do that to your pets.

Veneroso ,

Dude, cats don’t have the ability to make rational decisions. They’re pets. If you want to run a cat breeding house, that’s on you. Just keep them inside.

qwerty ,

Neither do crackheads.

Veneroso ,
qwerty ,

I think the horsefucker would agree with me.

Veneroso ,

Actually he just had Ruben neutered. Artemy and Pidgin are probably too.

jaybone ,

They should also have their bricks fixed.

NeptuneOrbit , in Later, losers

I would leave a comment but I’ll be busy (with a girl, you wouldn’t understand)

stepan ,

I would upvote your comment, but I’ll be with a real girl (I don’t expect you to understand it)

lud ,

I would read your comment, but I’ll be playing Factorio (I don’t expect you to understand it)

lightnsfw ,

Good because I don’t.

Rhaedas , in efficiency
@Rhaedas@kbin.social avatar

I've seen this same suggestion years ago on Blender tutorials. Generating a scene isn't about making it realistic, it's about fooling the audience into thinking it's real without making it too hard to create. Look at videos from Ian Hubert on how to fake it well.

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  • FinalRemix ,

    They did this in the Hitman 1>2>3 progression and got H3 down to like… 36 gigs… they reused doors when posssible, fruits in bowls, etc. Instead of bespoke items for each game in the series, they compressed and repeated stuff, and got the entire trilogy game down to the size of one of the individual games.

    NOPper ,

    I just got back into H3 a week or two ago and was caught off guard by the install size! Last time I installed 2 I had to disable a ton of map DLCs and rotate em out as I went to not take up most of the storage on my Steam Deck SD card.

    They did an amazing job on streamlining things.

    Tar_alcaran ,

    Halo 3 came out 17 years ago. I learned this today (and still don’t really see it…), so I say they did amazingly well!

    Track_Shovel OP ,
    @Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net avatar

    Fuck I’m old

    Im_old ,

    I can agree on this statement

    stringere ,

    Yeah, what Track_Shovel said: fuck you!

    Edit: not sure why they said it but I wanted to be in agreement, too!

    fossilesque ,
    @fossilesque@mander.xyz avatar

    My partner compares video game design to stage theatre.

    200ok ,

    Good analogy! Anything in particular they’ve used as examples?

    fossilesque ,
    @fossilesque@mander.xyz avatar

    Cyberpunk, literally all of it.

    wesker , in What if?
    @wesker@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

    My red flag would be showing them NewPipe, with recommendations turned completely off.

    SomethingBurger ,

    And subscriptions using RSS feeds instead of a YouTube account.

    wesker ,
    @wesker@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

    Guilty.

    Having no actual presence on social media is considered “creepy” by modern social standards, instead of what I view it as: more secure.

    FederatedSaint ,

    Having no actual presence on social media

    I’ve got some bad news for you…

    wesker ,
    @wesker@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

    I meant no actual presence on mainstream social media where I’m not using a pseudonym, and exchange profiles with the general public that I meet.

    tyler ,

    Forums are not social media. How is this hard to understand. Forums have existed for decades longer than social media and if you include forums in the definition of social media then you literally by definition include every comment section on every blog, news site, and even things like the FCC request for comments from citizens.

    It’s absolutely idiotic to include forums in that definition. You make the definition so wide as to be useless.

    jawa21 ,
    @jawa21@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

    People have gotten confused and declared that any internet based activity that involves interaction is social media. Social media is centered on users (you follow other people, not topics, and people for whatever crazy reason use their real name), whereas there is absolutely no real reason to do that on a forum.

    KillingTimeItself ,

    if forums are social media, or the internet more broadly is social media, would that include shit like, newspapers? And like, the library?

    Emerald ,

    Social media is centered on users (you follow other people, not topics

    This is the exact reason I never became interested in Mastodon. Following people just isn’t my style. The only social media I use is YouTube (without an account) because apparently Lemmy isn’t social media.

    tyler ,

    Great way to put it. That really is the root of it.

    FoxyGrandpa ,

    If that’s considered creepy then I’m john wayne gacy

    hydration9806 ,

    I’ve had the opposite response. Generally I get a “good on ya, I should really delete it too”

    jubilationtcornpone ,

    I find avoiding social media helps reduce encounters with the insane side of people who somehow appear to be relatively normal in real life.

    For instance, I actually like my inlaws in real life, despite having some very different views than they do. On Facebook however, they’re complete fucking idiots that I wouldn’t give the time of day because they would just argue with me about it.

    wesker , (edited )
    @wesker@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

    It’s odd how that proxy allows people to act feral. It’s like the behavior of a dog behind a fence.

    Though I’ll admit to trolling a little bit here and there, so maybe I’m not the best example.

    SomethingBurger ,

    It’s funny, I’m the opposite. In real life, I openly advocate for seizing the means of production and guillotining the rich, but I don’t do that on Facebook because I don’t want to get banned.

    KillingTimeItself ,

    as far as i care, having social media makes you more likely to be insane, because of the aggressive amount of influence that these sites and applications hold over people.

    solrize ,

    I actually got a date once by saying I had 10 laptop computers and no Facebook account. Not a good match in other regards, but the person was cool about privacy.

    scrion ,

    They ask for your search history then

    wesker ,
    @wesker@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

    My browser clears private data at the end of every session.

    scrion ,

    Same, but you were talking about NewPipe. I assume you use that on your phone.

    And while you can disable the search history there, too, it often is convenient not to have to type the name of that thing you want to listen to while you’re driving, so many people leave it enabled.

    wesker ,
    @wesker@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

    I just leverage playlists or bookmarks, typically. But while driving, I play my FLAC library off a thumbdrive.

    hakunawazo ,

    YSK you could also swipe single entries away in your Newpipe search history.

    Viking_Hippie ,
    CorrodedCranium ,
    @CorrodedCranium@leminal.space avatar

    Or switching profiles in GrapheneOS so I can look at my Google apps

    _____ , (edited )

    The brain rotted mind doesn’t understand the lack of an infinite pit of o-face reaction videos to pick from.

    pineapplelover ,

    Newpipe has recommendations?

    solrize ,

    It has “hot” but I don’t think the feed is personalized.

    FoxyGrandpa , in reddit

    More wholesomeness from Positivityman

    SomeBoyo ,

    Classic Positivityman

    someguy3 ,

    So positive he went off the scale just like Gandhi in civilization.

    dmMeYourNudes ,
    xx3rawr ,

    He is HIV-positive

    Lolman228 ,

    Now that's a wholesome 100 moment right there Keanu!

    LemmyFeed , in True Story

    Man she’d be really hot if her eyelashes were longer.

    There. I just said it. Now this post is a LIE

    dramaticcat OP ,

    😱🤯

    dadGPT ,

    prove that you are a dude

    FauxPseudo ,
    @FauxPseudo@lemmy.world avatar
    LemmyKnowsBest ,

    Okay now you have to follow through. Go out and marry one of those falsie-long-lashes freaks. No divorces allowed. You must gaze adoringly into her eyes at least twenty times a day for the rest of your life.

    metaStatic ,

    I have made a terrible mistake

    Skates ,

    So, a few things:

    1. No way to prove you’re a dude.
    2. Post is still not a lie, as your statement followed the post. You can’t say that someone in the year 1900 was a liar if they said “no man has walked on the moon”.
    3. Technically you wrote it, not said it. Therefore your comment is a LIE
    LemmyKnowsBest ,

    In 1900 no man had walked on the moon yet. Wouldn’t be a lie if in 1900 someone said “No man has walked on the moon.”

    Skates ,

    Yup, that’s the point I was making as well

    FlyingSquid ,
    @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

    This is 2023. Everyone’s a dude, dude.

    cor ,

    writing is a valid form of speech, and protected under the first amendment

    BruceTwarzen ,

    But he said true story. It's the incel code.

    alvvayson , in The good ending

    One thing about the greatest generation (my grandparents).

    They saw some serious shit and were just legitimately happy we don’t have to see that same shit.

    Funny how the coddled Boomer generation is often much more critical of the young, when they had the easiest ride ever.

    ConditionOverload ,
    @ConditionOverload@lemmy.world avatar

    They had it so easy but didn’t realize that that’s not the norm at all. They still expect the same to happen now. As if one can work through college and pay off all debts, or if just going to college meant landing a job, or even if you landed a job it would do little more than just make you live paycheck to paycheck.

    WhatAmLemmy , (edited )

    They had it so easy they’ve all been conditioned to believe that life is simple and easy. Not that it had nothing to do with their “effort” or “skills”, was easy as a direct result of complex external geopolitical and economic conditions (by chance), or that previous generations fought hard and paid for those conditions.

    People are also shit at math, and inflation is unintuitive. My boomer parents are extremely sympathetic to the situation of younger generations, but still thought their mortgage in the 80’s was comparable to current. After I punched it into an inflation calculator it was about 30% less than I would pay on a 2 bedroom UNIT; they paid that on a 2 bedroom HOUSE, and only for a couple years at peak interest rates.

    TL;DR: people are simple creatures and civilizations are complex machines 99.99% of us couldn’t possibly understand; even the most intelligent and best intentioned. Every one of the best minds in all of history were deeply flawed in some way (in hindsight).

    Clent ,

    The issue isn’t that boomer don’t get it.

    It’s that boomers don’t get that they don’t get it and talk about it anyway.

    People spent more time in read, think, listen cycles instead of skim and rage cycles.

    MotoAsh ,

    No, that’s asilly conclusion.

    Even if it were literally 99.99% of people that didn’t “get it”, that’s still almost a million people across the world who do understand it. How many politicians and “leaders” are there in the world?

    There are barely over 500k elected officials across the entire united states, for ALL elected positions. Only a few hundred of them really “need” to understand the big picture…

    It should not only be possible, but fully expected that people seeking the f*cking POTUS position be the kind of person who DOES get it.

    dfc09 ,

    Not even just that. My dad didn’t go to college, he joined the military at 18. He walked away from that and landed an engineering job with no degree. Now, he’s in a position that would ask for a masters minimum making nearly 300k a year.

    I joined the military and walked away with bad knees and a list of phone numbers to get a job in the trades. Don’t get me wrong, I took it, but damn I’m sure as hell not making anything near what he was at my age.

    Kalkaline ,
    @Kalkaline@programming.dev avatar

    Boomers were hardly coddled by the greatest generation. My grandfather was downright abusive by today’s standards. He would pour hot sauce down his kid’s throat when they cursed, probably hit them though they don’t really talk about it. Was it “beat them with a 2x4 and lock them in the shed” level abuse? No, but they didn’t exactly come out well prepared for the world and how they were raised probably was a part of it. I know I wouldn’t consider any of my grandparents’ punishments for my child, they are not the model for how to raise kids.

    geno , in [Day 1] Posting the Lemmy logo every day but I do whatever the top voted comment says

    Stop posting the Lemmy logo every day

    zcd ,

    It’s a simple spell but quite unbreakable

    Mr_Buscemi ,
    @Mr_Buscemi@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

    It can still thankfully be monkey paw’d written like that lol

    FARTYSHARTBLAST ,
    @FARTYSHARTBLAST@kbin.social avatar

    gotem

    Hazdaz , in Not the hero we deserve, but the one we need.

    We just don’t learn, do we?

    Stop putting celebrities on a pedestal.

    This bullshit celebrity hero worship has to stop. Fran was funny (and quite fetching) on The Nanny. What she is doing during the strike is great and all, but she is also anti-vaxx.

    This is the problem that happens when our society puts these celebrities on a higher level than everyone else. Appreciate the work they have done on and off screen, but realize that they are just human and in the case of Fran, she is a little loopy when it comes to vaccine issues. She’s not someone we should look up to. None of these celebrities are. Look up to your dad or a fireman or that really good social studies teacher you had in 6th grade.

    MaxVoltage ,
    @MaxVoltage@lemmy.world avatar

    I only look up to superheros like Karl Marx or Xi Jinping

    regular_human ,
    @regular_human@lemmy.world avatar

    Shut up, nerd

    Dee ,
    @Dee@lemmy.world avatar

    Stay in lemmygrad where you belong.

    MaxVoltage ,
    @MaxVoltage@lemmy.world avatar

    Make me 🤌🧀🐁

    Jackcooper ,

    So what you’re saying is

    All hail Sarah Silverman

    I_Fart_Glitter ,

    Oh god, what did Sarah Silverman do?

    JH6 ,

    God if there was one message I could forcefully implant into society as a whole it’s this. Well said.

    wwaxwork ,

    Don’t put anyone on a pedestal. Not politicians, not celebrities’, not twitch streamers, not your girlfriend. You can love, respect and even like people, but don’t worship anyone, it leaves you blind to their faults and it’s a pain in the ass being the one on the pedestal in a relationship.

    veniasilente ,
    @veniasilente@lemm.ee avatar

    You can pass people’s messages around, and the messages that are not about them but that their presence and actions help spread, without putting them on a pedestal.

    Try it for once. It’s fun.

    idunnololz ,
    @idunnololz@lemmy.world avatar

    Yeah. Put me on a pedestal instead. I’ve got some nice ideas. Like what if we made a car with a square steering wheel? I mean we won’t know the downsides until we try.

    med ,

    And after you take a turn, the downsides will change anyway!

    exododo ,

    I don’t know man. My dad, my teacher and the fireman have no public presence so they won’t be the face of any media workers’ strike. And at least one of the above is also an anti-vaxx and/or an asshole. This lady is just doing her role and I don’t think it makes much sense to undermine her work on this subject because her poor takes on others.

    Hazdaz ,

    But isn’t that what our society does these days? Or at least certain segments of it.

    They take someone who is X and then elevate them to some unreasonably high status that no one person should attain, and then that same society drops them like they’re a hot potato when they find out that the person isn’t perfect.

    To be clear, I don’t disagree with your take. We shouldn’t be undermining someone’s work because of some stupid opinion on this or dumb decision to do that.

    But think about what’s become a rather popular event over the last couple of years. Some actor gets shunned for saying some stupid shit about vaccines. There has been a whole rash of events where statues of people long dead have been taken down. Buildings dedicated to certain people were renamed. Columbus - the poor guy’s legacy has been dragged through the mud because of people who can’t separate the fact that he was a great explorer but he was also a bit of a douchebag.

    We need to stop elevating these people to the level of a deity, and then we won’t be shocked to find out the person was just human and a bit of a womanizer or a prick about money or he didn’t like certain groups all that much. Praise them for their singing or acting or the new world they explored.

    emeralddawn45 ,

    You say on one hand we should stop putting people on pedestals, but then in the same thought you go on to say that Columbus’ “legacy” was ruined just because he was a bit of a douchebag.

    Like how logically inconsistent are your own thoughts? Columbus was a piece of shit who genocided multiple ethnic groups. He never should have had statues in the first place. He didn’t even find what he was looking for. He was an arrogant fuck who got lucky, and the world probably would have been better off if he drowned at sea.

    And nobody “dragged him through the mud”, they just took a realistic look at who and what he actually is, which is supposedly what you’re proposing.

    Hazdaz ,

    What is so difficult to understand? The person - all people in general - are multi-faceted and as humans we are all flawed. Someone can be a murder but also be brilliant on the football field, like OJ. Stop putting these people up on a pedestal. But at the same time, are we supposed to simply ERASE his accomplishments on the football field? Everything is so obnoxiously polarized.

    That’s what people these days want to do. On the one hand they elevate every stupid celebrity they can think of and then everything comes crashing down when they say an off-color joke. If someone is a great singer… great, listen to their music, but stop fawning over what they wear and what they drive. Stop listening to every stupid comment they tweet. They are a singer, chances are they aren’t a scientist which probably doesn’t make them an expert on climate change or vaccines or whatever other topic. One day people are paying double for some celebrity endorsed sneaker and then the next they are burning those very same sneakers in a pit because he said something about endangered trees.

    I_Fart_Glitter ,

    Off color joke =/= genocide. Great footballin < murdering. The people upset about the endangered trees are not the ones burning overpriced athletic shoes made by child slaves.

    I’m going to assume you are a troll, because to do otherwise makes me feel sad.

    FlyingSquid OP ,
    @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

    a bit of a douchebag.

    He committed genocide. Would that also make Hitler “a bit of a douchebag?”

    solstice ,

    Was he really a great explorer though? The guy dramatically underestimated the size of the earth and he and his crew probably would’ve died from thirst or starvation or whatever if they hadn’t run smack into the new world halfway to India.

    Hazdaz ,

    By that logic then, the majority of world famous chemists and other scientists out there shouldn’t be heralded as great minds because they only accidentally discovered a certain medicine that cured a disease or a new element or some other new compound that eventually was put to great use.

    thal3s ,
    @thal3s@sh.itjust.works avatar

    Stop expecting perfection.

    Nobody is perfect. MLK had affairs, the founding fathers owned slaves, Churchill was racist AF, etc.

    She’s doing a great job now and we can educate her the same way we turned Obama from anti-gay marriage.

    We should judge people OVERALL not on stuff like being anti-vax (which to be clear is dumb).

    runblack ,

    Now thats a very good opinion that I totally endorse.

    ShakyPerception ,

    No!

    If even ONE thought in her head disagrees with MY world view then she is useless and NEEDS to be destroyed!

    /s

    SwingingTheLamp ,

    This is where leftists get the reputation for forming circular firing squads.

    ShakyPerception ,
    Misconduct , (edited )

    Yet somehow you guys are always the first to play the victim even to something that’s still theoretical. Like your comment here. Amazing example. Same with the person you responded to. Not a single example of anything like that but here you both are comforting each other over it lmao

    SwingingTheLamp ,

    What are you talking about here?

    Misconduct ,

    I don’t know but mine was 17 hours ago and yours was 17 mins ago which is kinda neat

    Hazdaz ,

    Stop expecting perfection.

    That is a great way of saying it.

    If you look at some of the biggest figures of our past in world history, the vast majority of them had some kind of vice or did some kind of thing or participated in some kind of event that would have gotten them cancelled in today’s world. It is ridiculous to what standards we hold people today, but in the end, they are just that - PEOPLE. Highly flawed individuals, just like you and I and everyone here. That doesn’t change the fact that they changed history (for better or worse) in one way or another. The problem comes when society then elevates them to some demi-god level and then everyone gets all flustered when that extra-marital affair or off-color joke or comments about some topic comes to light.

    Misconduct ,

    Talking about someone’s glaring flaws isn’t the same as expecting perfection. That’s an intillectually lazy way to see it. Wanting people to only sing the praises of anyone is actually expecting your version of perfection.

    explodicle ,

    Why is this particular flaw relevant to this discussion?

    Misconduct ,

    If it’s relevant to the person being discussed it’s fair game imo. Just like it’s fair game to point out her better actions if it’s in a post dunking on her. Famous people are gonna be scrutinized more than the guy working at the gas station that’s just how it goes. I don’t expect perfection but what alternative do you even want here? I’m not down with ignoring bad behavior then because we want their help now. That’ll never sit right with me. If someone is in a position to be emulated by fans and they make the decision to spread dangerous ideology then fuck em. I’m gonna bring it up at every whisper of their name. It’s the closest thing to actual consequences for their actions that most rich/famous people ever get anyway.

    explodicle ,

    Why does it matter if it’s relevant to the person, if it’s not relevant to the subject or current event in question?

    To answer your question, the alternative I want here is better working conditions for actors. I view her as working class, not rich. The difference between a millionaire and a billionaire is about a billion dollars.

    The guys her union is up against actually are rich, and they’re even worse. The working class is being divided and conquered.

    Misconduct ,

    To each their own. I’m not willing to give any slack on people that are anti-vax even if I perceive them as being helpful to me at the time.

    Misconduct ,

    I don’t expect perfection…? Being anti-vax is a big deal to me. That’s not a harmless ideology. It’s moronic and anti-science. This isn’t just some little thing I disagree with it’s, in my opinion, a huge moral and intellectual failure. I think it’s completely fair that this gets brought up because it’s directly relevant.

    BigJim ,

    Not to split hairs but she is actually against vaccine mandates, not against vaccines itself. She is vaccinated against covid-19.

    Personally I disagree with her and support mandates, but there is a considerable difference between anti-vax and anti-mandates.

    Source: variety.com/…/fran-drescher-sag-aftra-contract-ta…

    Misconduct ,

    I wish we lived in a world where we could count on people to just do the right thing but we don’t. On issues that put everyone at risk I unfortunately have to stand on the side of mandates until people learn how to act. Personally I’d still rather that they just get naturally excluded from society but we’re all too split for that and too many people have to needlessly die in the meantime. I’m aware fighting for women’s rights to choose is kind of hypocritical in this situation but nobody has come up with a better solution that doesn’t just let people be wilfully ignorant and get other people killed in the process.

    persolb ,

    Everyone is a little loopy though. We’re all some flavor of hypocrite too.

    I don’t mind celebrities being on a pedestal, because it is a common reference point for us all when discussing virtue or lack thereof.

    We just all need to be reminded that they are still human and stupid in their own way.

    MargotRobbie ,
    @MargotRobbie@lemmy.world avatar

    Stop putting celebrities on a pedestal.

    Unless it’s me, right? 🥰

    skullone ,

    Hello, it’s me, your pedestal. Please sit on my face.

    Hazdaz ,

    …and you are??

    ShakyPerception ,

    Well of course, but that’s a given assumption

    samus12345 ,
    @samus12345@lemmy.world avatar

    It’s just a shitpost. Why so serious?

    Gorbachof ,
    @Gorbachof@lemmy.world avatar

    What if Fran Dresscher is my dad?

    Hazdaz ,

    She might teacher 6th grade social studies too! Shit. You found a loophole.

    insomniac ,
    @insomniac@sh.itjust.works avatar

    But my dad is anti-vax and racist. I’m trading up!

    Hugh_Jeggs , in A wonderful day begins

    Phrases that make absolutely no fucking sense in 194 countries out of 195

    Elementary school police officer

    😳

    Carvex ,

    I’d yeehaw if’n twernt so sad.

    Fisch ,
    @Fisch@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

    Gotta make sure there’s no drug deals going on

    youRFate ,

    School bus tail gunner.

    Empricorn ,

    Kindergarten Grenadier.

    hemko ,

    I think less than 193 tbh… In Latvia, a Social Democrat party has proposed surveillance cameras and pigs in schools. I’m pretty sure in other countries there has been talk as well

    www.baltictimes.com/news/articles/6104/

    TimeNaan ,

    Man, social democrats sure do like building police states…

    Kusimulkku ,

    Wat

    TimeNaan ,

    Exactly that. They use police to protect capital’s interests just like the other countries. So they need to expand police powers. Just look at Weimar Germany for historical examples.

    Kusimulkku ,

    We’re talking about modern day social democrats and you bring up Weimar Germany. There’s a lot more recent examples of social democrats in power lol.

    stringere ,

    Like the socialist Nazi party throwing a world war with a side of genocide.

    TimeNaan ,

    Except that was not socialist at all except for the name.

    stringere ,

    Exactly what I was driving at.

    Woozythebear ,

    Found the nazi

    stringere ,

    Or you found the person using the example of the Nazi party being socialists in name only to highlight the ridiculousness of the comment I replied to.

    social democrats sure do like building police states

    Kusimulkku ,

    I don’t think a modern day Nazi would highlight the socialist part or talk about starting world war and genocide

    lud ,

    Here, it’s the opposite. The social democrats and their allies were in government for a long time and the second the more conservatives (still pretty left compared to the USA though) got power they proposed a fuck ton of laws including visitation zones where they can search people without suspect. That law actually goes into effect very soon.

    Woozythebear ,

    Says the guy living in a police state run by liberals…

    TimeNaan ,

    Which one?

    Lucidlethargy ,

    I’m an American, and I’ve never heard of this. I think it might mostly be a joke at the expense of the shithole officers of Uvalde.

    Player2 ,

    They are often called “resource officers” and there was at least one in every public school I went to (east coast).

    Starb3an ,

    2 at our highschool, 1 in jr high

    JargonWagon ,

    My high schools (private and public) had security guards

    ICastFist ,
    @ICastFist@programming.dev avatar

    Must be Arnold Schwarzenegger working there

    FlyingSquid ,
    @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

    IT’S NOT A TUMOR!

    dutchkimble ,

    Who is your daddy and what does he do?

    problematicPanther ,
    @problematicPanther@lemmy.world avatar

    gotta teach those kids how to lick boots early on in life.

    AeonFelis ,

    Well, you wouldn’t want to let all these kids play with their guns without an officer to watch over them, would you?

    grilled_cheese_eater ,

    My country had police officers in all schools for a month or so after the First Ever School Shooting In The Entire Country happened, but only because parents demanded it.

    This was only a bit ago actually.

    Blackmist ,

    I think most countries will eventually go through one. For the UK it was Dunblane, after which the government went “no more handguns then?” and we all went “yeah, I suppose”, because only a handful of people kept them anyway.

    pipows ,
    @pipows@lemmy.today avatar

    We have that in Brazil as well

    theneverfox ,
    @theneverfox@pawb.social avatar

    No, see they’re mostly there so children learn to obey through intimidation talk to police, and they definitely never use it as a punishment detail for officers who got in trouble for anger issues

    moriquende , in Wow

    This is honestly so disrespectful. He said it was between you and him, and here you are spreading it around on the internet.

    punkwalrus , in text don't call
    @punkwalrus@lemmy.world avatar

    When I was 19, I had friends from high school who were still younger, and one of them was my friend Julie who had helicopter parents (she would have been 17-18). I was doing security at an event where the radio headsets we had were super-shitty, and the guy running security was a dumpster fire on his own. Julie’s parents forbid her from going to the event, and grounded her to her room. Then her dad called the hotel where the event was being held, was told Julie had “run away” to this event, and that I was somehow responsible. Given she was a minor, the event runners were understandably concerned, although they were frustrated that Julie’s dad was unable to describe her in a way that was useful: “Asian, wearing black, or a tee-shirt, or something. Ask Punkie where she is.” So they contacted the head of security to find me on my rounds to see if I knew what this crazy man was talking about. The head of security said “okay” and did nothing.

    At some point, the head of security was fired for a variety of reasons, and this increased the level of miscommunication. Meanwhile, Julie’s dad was calling every few hours, demanding to know where his daughter was. And soon there was a concerted effort to find me, which was complicated because of the communication issues. By the time someone found me and the connection was made, my response of, “I have no idea, Julie said her dad forbid her coming here,” was not what they wanted to hear, and met with skepticism “You’re not hiding her, are you? Like she ran away with you in some tryst? She’s 17 and you’re 19, that could have legal ramifications!” No. We’re platonic friends, I don’t know where she is. if I tried to bonk the poor woman, she’d clobber me.

    Meanwhile, Julie’s dad finds Julie in her bedroom, right where he left her. Julie later told me that she was ignoring her dad calling for her, and didn’t “come downstairs” like he demanded because she assumed it was a trap to get her punished for leaving her bedroom while she was grounded. So naturally, her dad assumed she wasn’t in the house. Because he called for her and she didn’t answer.

    Poor Julie. Her parents were crazy-nuts.

    bigkahuna1986 ,

    This is the type of story you can’t make up because it’s not realistic enough.

    cheesymoonshadow ,
    @cheesymoonshadow@lemmings.world avatar

    Are you still in touch with Julie? I hope she moved out and went on to become a well-rounded, functioning adult with a good job and healthy social life.

    TheFriar ,

    When that’s the type of parents you grow up with, having a well-rounded and functioning adult life with a healthy social aspect becomes a bit of a long shot. Not impossible, but jeez, I can’t imagine how fucked up that girl’s trust and social skills must have been when she was leaving the house. That’s the kind of parenting that leads kids to go absolutely off the wall and down a pretty dark path.

    punkwalrus ,
    @punkwalrus@lemmy.world avatar

    I was for about 15 years post high school, but her life was rough and I was always the one initiating contact, so we drifted apart. I hope she okay. Smart woman, gifted arist, terrible parents.

    cheesymoonshadow ,
    @cheesymoonshadow@lemmings.world avatar

    That was so nice of you to make an effort for 15 years.

    awwwyissss ,

    This is one of the better stories I’ve seen on Lemmy. Have a pineapple emoji 🍍

    MidRomney ,

    Then her dad called the hotel where the event was being held, was told Julie had “run away” to this event, and that I was somehow responsible.

    Why would the hotel tell her dad that Julie had run away?

    Venat0r ,

    I think he meant that the dad told the hotel.

    Llewellyn ,

    English keeps confusing me (I’m a foreigner)

    Octavio , (edited )

    If it makes you feel better, I don’t think the misunderstanding was on your end. Although I agree probably the dad told the hotel that, it was actually phrased like the hotel told the dad that.

    Llewellyn ,

    It does, thank you.

    GregorGizeh ,

    “Was told” clearly suggests the father was given this information, not vice versa.

    chatokun ,

    Occam’s razor. Which is more likely: Punkie made a mistake in wording when describing the situation, or the security team, who is very likely completely unaware of Punkie and Julie’s relationship plus as noted later has no idea who Julie is made up out of thin air that Punkie convinced a stranger on the phone that one of their junior staff convinced said strangers daughter to run away?

    GregorGizeh ,

    Of course it is more likely. That’s not in question though.

    Just that the wording suggests the opposite

    BeefPiano , in How much for cuddles?

    “Get out of the dog house card” isn’t going to work the way either of them think. Pulling that card when you’re in the doghouse is not going to make her fine with whatever upset her. There’s a good chance she’ll say she’s “fine” because she doesn’t want to renege on her chart, but whatever conflict isn’t going to resolve itself because he gave her that card.

    Trading sex for chores is gross. I don’t want a BJ or lap-dance from a partner that is only doing it because the sticker chart says she has to.

    It’s also insane that things like washing dishes or packing lunches or changing diapers aren’t part of the baseline expectations for a dad. You don’t get an award for doing the bare minimum!

    Both of these people are demonstrating the emotional intelligence of a block of cheese.

    SpaceNoodle ,

    Don’t slander cheese like that.

    jopepa ,

    Imagine the French and Italian retaliation if they had said wheel of cheese.

    Kolanaki ,
    @Kolanaki@yiffit.net avatar

    I guess I’m just kinky, because the idea of chores for sex sounds pretty awesome to me.

    0x4E4F ,
    @0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works avatar

    It sound good till you actually experience that and realize how degrading it is.

    Look, I’m a male and I completely get the “I’m horny all the time” aspect of males, but… if she did this, that’s a complete downer for me. Mind you, I love sex, I would have it a few times a day if I could.

    Rolando ,

    I think that the key is to have a “safe word”.

    Signtist ,

    It depends on how seriously it’s followed. My wife will often say something along the lines of “if you make dinner I’ll let you feel me up,” but it’s with the mutual understanding that she knows I’d make her dinner because she asked regardless of the reward, and I know she wouldn’t offer it if she wasn’t happy to give it - she just wants to make sure we have dinner first.

    This chart’s a bit too far, though, since it’s a more long-term commitment that doesn’t factor in everyone’s feelings at the time that the rewards come due, but I could see that being circumvented in the event that a “rain check” could be called if someone’s not feeling it at that moment.

    Kusimulkku ,

    It sound good till you actually experience that and realize how degrading it is.

    Some are into that

    Buddahriffic ,

    Does she want sex or does she want chores done? Because if it’s just the latter, then I wouldn’t really want sex either.

    If you’re ever handed a chore chart and it’s not part of a kink, then assume your relationship is in serious trouble.

    0x4E4F ,
    @0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works avatar

    I was thinking more in terms of the latter. If it’s part of a kink, sure.

    chetradley ,

    It’s also insane that things like washing dishes or packing lunches or changing diapers aren’t part of the baseline expectations for a dad.

    This is the one that gets me the most. Like, I do the majority of a lot of these things in addition to taking my kid to daycare, doing almost all of the cooking, etc. I do it because I want to help my family, not because I’m saving up for a toothy blowjob.

    0x4E4F ,
    @0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works avatar

    I do all that, and yet, it’s still not enough… always expected to do more and nagged about not doing enough.

    chetradley ,

    Sounds like you need to put the toilet seat down more lol

    0x4E4F ,
    @0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works avatar

    It’s always down.

    ch00f ,
    dditty ,

    I was in a relationship with a controlling partner who made something very similar to this back in ~2016. I can’t remember exactly what was on it, but there was definitely a sexual favor reward for some amount of chores (it was like I had to give her X hour-long full body massages or smth) 💀

    GrayBackgroundMusic ,

    true mvp

    funkless_eck ,

    🎵 the lap dance is better when the stripper has stiiickers 🎵

    figjam ,

    I mean, yeah. I love stickers!

    Geobloke ,

    Said her name was Bambi

    Buddahriffic ,

    Had about as much teeth as a jack-o’-lantern.

    Classy ,

    I was gonna say, the way I care for our kid, if we had done this chart I wouldn’t have had time to do anything but get continuous blow jobs and lap dances!

    Kecessa ,

    I’m kind of disturbed by the fact that they call it “being in the dog house”… Is it a common expression in English?

    WhiteOakBayou ,

    Yes, I’ve never heard a real person use it but I’ve heard it on TV enough to know what it means. I think it’s a boomer expression.

    papalonian ,

    Someone else answered but yes it’s a boomer expression. Basically to mean you’re in trouble with your spouse. (They aren’t letting you in their bed so you go to sleep with your dog in the dog house.)

    bramblepatchmystery ,

    I think you are right if every assumption about this couple we make is the worst one to make.

    This might be a cornball gamification of a loving couple’s sex life. She might be a sexual assault survivor who requires a few days to get in the sexy mood and reminders that she is taken of by her partner helps her. They could just be glomping for the camera. This could even not be theirs or something they made for rage bait.

    Your engagement of public intrusion and moralizing into these people’s lives might ironically be hurting these people more than the chart has.

    JackbyDev ,

    Trading sex for chores is gross.

    Don’t kink shame.

    TheGrandNagus , in 🎵that's life🎵

    And then you get out of school and realise that those were the good times.

    Risk ,

    Nah, peak is university in terms of free time.

    doofer_name ,

    If you knew how many times I thought about ditching my job and just go to uni again…

    PrivateNoob ,

    Not for STEM Eastern European universities. 😆

    SubArcticTundra ,
    @SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml avatar

    Can confirm. Biochem is killing me.

    PrivateNoob ,

    Yo my boiiii. Good to still see you here. ^^

    SubArcticTundra ,
    @SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml avatar

    Wait you’re the other Czech on here! Haha yes good to see you! What STEM did you study?

    PrivateNoob ,

    Naah I’m hungarian, I just know you host the 2visegrad4you community where I run my bot a while back.

    SubArcticTundra ,
    @SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml avatar

    Ohh that’s where I remember you from. Do you still use it? I killed the script on my computer a couple of weeks ago, but I can turn it back on if you like

    PrivateNoob ,

    I haven’t used it that much tbf, just a bit. I finally have a homeserver now, so if I need it, I can just easily start my script. Thank you for the offer tho!

    SubArcticTundra ,
    @SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml avatar

    Also what are you studying?

    PrivateNoob ,

    Software Engineering. I’m gonna start my last semester soo only the dreaded closing exam has left for me.

    TheGrandNagus , (edited )

    I mean, for the subset of people who go to uni and can support themselves without also working a lot in that time, yeah.

    In my time at uni there was

    • work, at which the hours were inconsistent
    • coursework, which there was a lot of
    • constantly battling a shit landlord who didn’t give a toss about uni students and left the flat in disrepair, but the housing shortage meant he could get away with charging a fortune for a mouldy flat with broken windows and non-working appliances

    There was a lot of good, sure, but uni can be a very stressful time.

    Transporter_Room_3 ,
    @Transporter_Room_3@startrek.website avatar

    So basically “people who would still get a job at daddy’s company regardless of a degree but a degree looks better for PR”

    PeriodicallyPedantic ,

    There is a big range between “parents could save up for their kid’s college” and “parents own a large successful company”.

    I’m just some grunt working an office job, but I’m still lucky enough to be able to put away money for my kid’s college fund since they were born. I hope that they won’t need a job to get through college, when/if they go.

    jak ,

    I think a big difference is what the free time is like. I worked full time or nearly through college, so I didn’t have much free time in terms of quantity. When I got it, it was often with friends and during the day. When I graduated, I got a job with regular hours for the first time- I had so much free time, but I didn’t have a lot to fill it with, nor did I have a lot of energy after sitting down. Developing an active hobby helped with both, but doesn’t work for everyone.

    I’m in grad school now, working 30 hours a week, and I do feel much more weighed down, but I’m able to set my own schedule a lot more than I could when I worked in an office

    Risk ,

    I had a similar experience and worked a bit (not a load though) as I was lucky enough to get some support from the Bank of Mum and Dad.

    I definitely felt like I had more free time then versus now though. But maybe that’s just rose-tinted glasses.

    ericisshort ,

    Not if you choose engineering as your major. I’ve never worked harder or longer hours than when I was in college.

    iesou ,

    I had a full load of classes at uni and worked 40 hours a week. Not much free time was has by me

    Sabin10 ,

    But university students manage to feel overwhelmed if their course load has them putting in 35 hours a week.

    SubArcticTundra ,
    @SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml avatar

    Heck, half of uni students dont even go to the lectures

    pipows ,
    @pipows@lemmy.today avatar

    If you can afford not working, yeah. That wasn’t a reality for me or most people I know. Luckily I’m in a career that doesn’t value a major that much, so I dropped out after finding a decent job

    GissaMittJobb ,

    I always got pretty worried when adults kept saying that school was the good times growing up, as I didn’t have a particularly good time, and was not onboard for it being downhill from there.

    Luckily I’ve learned that it’s not actually universally applicable, my life has definitely just gotten better as I’ve gotten older.

    pipows ,
    @pipows@lemmy.today avatar

    For me, school was a shithole that I was glad it was over, those were not the good years. Things are not perfect, but they have gotten radically better ever since.

    The only thing about school that was good is that I made a few very good friends. Those are probably going to be life long friendships.

    lanolinoil ,
    @lanolinoil@lemmy.world avatar

    They’re the good times because you see you had no responsibilities and endless potential to be so many things, which becomes less and less true as you age. Of course, it’s miserable too not knowing what you are/what to do and feeling lost because you have no responsibilities, so it’s really just a grass is greener thing I imagine.

    son_named_bort ,

    Yeah I think it is a greener grass situation. Sure you may have no responsibilities, but you also have less freedom in school. You can’t live on your own, can’t drink or gamble or vote or anything like that, can’t go where you want, etc. There’s always a trade-off.

    lanolinoil ,
    @lanolinoil@lemmy.world avatar

    I hated being a kid because no one took anything I had to say seriously — drove me crazy

    chiliedogg ,

    It’s different.

    It’s way better in some ways - especially if you find a good career in a field you’re passionate about.

    But some of the responsibilities of adulthood are a burden that is hard to appreciate until you’re there. And the perspective gained by life experience is also very different, for better or worse.

    For instance, I went through a breakup last year at 39 with someone I was fully expecting to marry. It was my first major relationship failure in decades, and as I was being dumped I expected it to crush me.

    What ended up hurting the most was that it didn’t hurt that much. I didn’t spiral into depression or fall apart at work. I wasn’t happy about it, but I was fine. A younger me would have been overwhelmed by the emotional toll, but the adult me was able to keep moving forward without breaking stride.

    And in a way that’s what hurts. The passion of youth has been tempered by a lifetime of experience that puts everything into perspective.

    RGB3x3 ,

    Ugh, as you get older, everything just starts to dull. Things are less important, less passionate, and more “meh” in general. And not in a depressed way, but more specifically that I’ve been there, done that for most emotions I could have.

    I will say that now that I have an infant daughter, I’m finding those passionate emotions again and I’m excited as she’s excited and sad when she’s sad. That is the great part about parenting.

    GissaMittJobb ,

    And in a way that’s what hurts. The passion of youth has been tempered by a lifetime of experience that puts everything into perspective.

    Ok, yes, I felt that.

    SubArcticTundra ,
    @SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml avatar

    And in a way that’s what hurts. The passion of youth has been tempered by a lifetime of experience that puts everything into perspective.

    21, and I am feeling this already.

    Fudoshin ,
    @Fudoshin@feddit.uk avatar

    my life has definitely just gotten better as I’ve gotten older.

    I’m guessing 20s-30s then? Cos Once you hit 40s things start breaking and falling off.

    independantiste ,
    @independantiste@sh.itjust.works avatar

    I just started my internship, and I have to say, it is so good not to have to worry about exams, projects and so on aftera full day of school and on weekends. When I close the lid of the laptop, the day is over. Plus I get smaller days, from 9 to 5 instead of from 8 to 5/6. I have never had as much free time

    TheGrandNagus ,

    Your school day was 8 to 6? Damn. That definitely doesn’t sound normal.

    independantiste ,
    @independantiste@sh.itjust.works avatar

    Not every day was the same, some were 9 to 6, some 8 to 4, some 8 to 5, but 8 to 6 is not a rare occurrence

    renzev ,

    Not trying to downplay your experience, but uni was actually so much better for me… being able to focus on things that actually coincide with my interests and abilities in Uni was so liberating after being forced to go through five classes a day five days a week, most of which were either insultingly idiotic or existentially difficult… Not to mention having an actually human-paced schedule with ample time to plan ahead instead of constantly being in damage reduction mode. I remember thinking to myself in the first year of uni: “Is this what normal life is supposed to feel like?” I’m still recovering from school emotionally, but the fact that I finally have the mental space to recover is definitely a good sign. I guess you and I just have way different schools, universities, and personal circumstances!

    alienanimals , in Tax time

    Turbo Tax is the reason why the government doesn’t just give you a number to pay. The process could be easy, but the giant corporation Intuit and their political lobbying is why it sucks.

    Zoboomafoo ,
    @Zoboomafoo@lemmy.world avatar

    TurboTax plus Republicans wanting to make paying taxes as difficult as possible so people will vote to cut taxes

    redballooon ,

    Which is not a solution because just because while you pay less taxes you still have to go through the process

    Natanael ,

    They want people to be mad at having to pay taxes

    nilloc ,

    rich donors want it complex so they can keep finding the loop holes that let them pay nothing most years.

    EatYouWell ,

    The IRS is actually going test pilot such a program in a few states in the near future.

    LordOfTheChia , (edited )

    Which is why they keep wanting to defund the IRS (example):

    1. It allows the wealthy to cheat on their taxes with less concerns of getting audited or if they do get audited, they can outspend the auditors.
    2. It would have de-funded this measure the IRS is getting ready to test which would allow Americans to figure out and pay their taxes without feeling compelled to go through middle men like Intuit and TurboTax.

    Edit: More direct example of point 2

    opensecrets.org/…/tax-prep-companies-lobbying-aga…

    After President Joe Biden’s December 2021 Executive Order instructed Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen to consider “expanded electronic filing options,” Yellen testified before the Senate Finance Committee that building a free direct filing service is “definitely a priority.” The Inflation Reduction Act of 2022 allotted $15 million for the IRS to explore the creation of a free federal tax filing service.

    In May, the IRS released a report announcing plans to launch the pilot program for the 2024 tax filing season and indicating that most U.S. taxpayers are interested in filing their taxes directly to the IRS for free.

    But in June, Republicans on the House Appropriations Committee proposed a budget rider that would bar the IRS from using federal government funds to create a government-run tax preparation software, unless approved by the House and Senate’s appropriations committees.

    Potatos_are_not_friends ,

    If I was a billionaire, it sure is more affordable to spend 30 million on lobbying than paying 50 million on taxes.

    ColeSloth ,

    Except people been having to do their taxes for a hell of a lot longer than turbo tax has existed. Turbo is a big lobbying entity, but they aren’t the only ones.

    ElectricCattleman ,

    They aren’t the only one, but they are the largest one. They didn’t make the system the way it is, but they benefit massively from it staying this way.

    Baku ,

    America moment

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