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Taako_Tuesday , in Elon Musk's drug use causing turmoil for Tesla, SpaceX execs: WSJ

They don’t mention it causing turmoil at Xitter, presumably because they are already at maximum turmoil capacity

thisbenzingring ,

Xhitter employee #1: Oh dude, I think the boss is tripping balls!

Xhitter employee #2: Maybe today won’t be a total loss. Should I ask him to share that shit with us?

Pepsi ,
@Pepsi@kbin.social avatar

Theres nobody left there to ask

Rentlar ,

Perhaps they contacted Twitter for a comment on Elon’s drug use and got a statement that read: 💩

LiveLM ,

I still can’t believe that’s a real thing he did, it’s straight out of a comedy skit.
I loved when the writers would try to get in contact and would point out the reply in their articles. Seems they got tired of it after a while unfortunately.

rivermonster ,

I really like the term “maximum turmoil capacity”. LOL, ty.

captain_aggravated ,
@captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works avatar

I used to play bass for Maximum Turmoil Capacity.

We were an experimental noise core thrash jazz quartet.

cro_magnon_gilf ,

Oh so kind of a fusion? Radical

rivermonster ,

Upvotes! LMFAO, upvotes for everyone!

Honytawk ,

You know, I thought they already were at capacity before Elmo agreed publicly with fascists.

squirrelwithnut , in Up to 10 hospital patients in Oregon died from tap water injections instead of fentanyl: report

So that nurse will be charged with 10 counts of murder on top of the federal drug crimes, right? …Right?

xor ,

actually, probably yeah

nonfuinoncuro ,

I dunno, the one who did the fertility clinic at Yale just got her license back…

xor ,

jesus christ, what a fucked up court system we have…
at any rate, the incredibly evil nurse from yale at least refilled them with sterile saline solution, and didn’t kill 10 people… or any people…
i think that’ll make a difference…

sparky ,
@sparky@lemmy.federate.cc avatar

probably something like involuntary manslaughter as opposed to literal premeditated murder, but yes serious jail time is warranted

_dev_null ,
@_dev_null@lemmy.zxcvn.xyz avatar

In my state I think “reckless manslaugher” might be apt:

  • You caused the death of another person; and
  • You were aware of and showed a conscious disregard of a substantial and unjustifiable risk of death.
Coreidan ,

Or how about first degree murder

Krzd ,
@Krzd@lemmy.world avatar

Murder has to have the intent to kill someone AFAIK, this is “just” intentionally doing something that you know can (instead of will) kill someone. (it’s a fine distinction)

Coreidan ,

It would seem to me that doing something you know will kill someone is the same as intentionally killing someone. A trained nurse can’t plead ignorance in this case.

It’s really no different than pointing a gun at someone and pulling the trigger.

From my perspective that’s premeditated murder in the first degree.

Krzd ,
@Krzd@lemmy.world avatar

That’s why I highlighted between can kill and will kill. Tap water injections can kill (with a reasonably high chance of survival if caught in time with the right medical equipment at hand). (Again, IANAL/AFAIK)

SnipingNinja ,

I read those two acronyms as one continuous sentence and found it hilarious (that as far as you know you’re not a lawyer, but you could be)

BreakDecks ,

Murder doesn’t require direct intent to kill. Knowingly and/or purposefully doing something you know can kill people can result in murder charges if someone dies. Recklessness can be a factor.

A medical professional knows that injecting tap water can be fatal, so by doing so purposefully and knowingly, the act absolutely meets the definition of attempted murder, especially since this behavior was happening repeatedly at a large enough scale to cause multiple deaths. Likewise, those deaths absolutely meet the definition of murder.

And while it would be a stretch, first degree murder isn’t off the table, since these actions appear very deliberately pre-planned with the intent of stealing drugs. Planning ahead of time, as a medical professional, to do things that you know can kill people, does meet the definition of premeditation.

There’s also felony murder, where if someone dies in the commission of a felony, murder charges can be included with the other crime(s). Stealing drugs from a hospital is a felony, as is intentionally fraudulently injecting patients with non-medical/non-sterile liquids, though it doesn’t appear that this is possible in Oregon, specifically.

sparky ,
@sparky@lemmy.federate.cc avatar

Sounds right.

FluorideMind ,

It’s a nurse. Not a cop.

Yokozuna ,

This really stung in the worst way.

Sagifurius ,

Well yeah. It’s not like she’s a cop

Chetzemoka ,

Yes. The nursing profession doesn’t fuck around with this kind of shit.

npr.org/…/former-nurse-found-guilty-in-accidental…

Test_Tickles ,

She’s not rich, so ya, she’s fucked.

CaptainProton ,

Yes, because then they can avoid any liability for the business as well as avoiding blame for the administrators who are guilty of 8 negligent homicides because they ignored the 8 after the second death that meant there was definitely something more than a freak accident going on

Alexstarfire , in Quality of care declines after private equity takes over hospitals, finds nationwide analysis

A place that prioritizes profit over care has worse care service? Never would have guessed the outcome.

Starbuck ,

But they had better profits, so it’s worth it. Unless you’re sick or poor, in which case who cares

kautau ,

Not to worry! The competition of the elderly and terminal who are living there will allow them to just pack their bags and move to another place easily and without impact to their wellbeing because of their freedom of choice in this wonderful free market guided by the invisible hand

FlyingSquid , in Third-tallest tower in Los Angeles sells for 45% less than last purchase price as remote work, interest rates drive down office values
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Good. Fuck the commercial real estate industry.

MotoAsh ,

Fuck the realestate industry period. It shouldn’t be commodified to the point where there are more empty houses up for rent, airbnb, or sitting empty as “investments” than there are homeless. Foreign companies are allowed to buy up realestate and literally extract wealth from the country for something that’s supposed to ultimately be owned by the country (hence no escaping property taxes or eminate domain)… It’s such a limitedly regulated mess that any such “free market” cannot responsibly control.

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  • jantin ,

    Not society, but rather a bunch of detached money pushers

    hypnotoad__ ,

    You just wrote what they wrote, but blamed “society” instead of the actual assholes making the profits

    calypsopub ,

    We should ban foreign nationals and corporations from owning real estate here, with reasonable exceptions.

    MotoAsh ,

    No exceptions except immigration. Your corporation needs a factory? Fine, the land and building will be owned by the US and you will pay to rent it.

    Pipoca ,

    Remember that not every unit the census counts as vacant can have someone move into it. Their definition is honestly kinda weird. Some units are under construction or repair. Some are legally tied up in a divorce or estate sale. Some actually have people in them, such as non-dormitory student housing or housing for seasonal workers.

    According to the census, 14.5% of vacant units for rent are vacant for less than a month, and 20.6% are vacant for more than one month but less than 2. The median vacancy has been on the market for 3.7 months, and less than 20% of vacancies have been on the market for more than 1 year.

    Having a lot of units on the market for a month or two is a good thing; it means people can move to an area and find housing. You’re not going to house homeless people by sticking them into an apartment for a month or two between paying tenants.

    It’s also a good thing because low vacancy rates are associated with rents going up. And the rent being too damn high increases homelessness.

    MotoAsh ,

    Do you think those houses would’ve gotten so run down if there was soneone living in them to see the need and do maintenance?

    Those houses are still in-flux instead of occupied. Do you even listen to yourself? Those houses are livable and not occupied… In factm houses in turnover is BAD because that means prices going up for renters and tax increases for owners.

    It is BAD to run housing like we do. Full stop. What I said is factuallu true abd you think those houses being in turmoil is better than being owned?!

    Pipoca ,

    Why is having housing in flux a bad thing?

    The goal should be to have affordable housing and low homeless rates.

    Why should my goal be for each apartment to be moved into the day the previous occupant moves out? What’s the point?

    Do you think those houses would’ve gotten so run down if there was soneone living in them to see the need and do maintenance?

    I don’t think you understand that category of vacancies. Vacancies under repair isn’t “long term vacant buildings that needs repairs to become livable again”, its “any building currently being repaired or renovated that doesn’t have people actively living in it”.

    My sister’s house, for example, was vacant for a couple months when she renovated her kitchen. It was owner- occupied just before the renovation and just after, but it was vacant during the renovation because she temporarily moved in with my parents.

    After natural disasters, there’s often a lot of housing that’s vacant under repair.

    MotoAsh ,

    If you don’t understand the fundamental difference between a house that is rented and one that is owned, I really do not know what to say. You do not care if people own their own value. Sad.

    Pipoca ,

    What are you even talking about?

    You originally said

    Fuck the realestate industry period. It shouldn’t be commodified to the point where there are more empty houses up for rent, airbnb, or sitting empty as “investments” than there are homeless.

    Yes, there’s more apartments sitting empty for a month or two than there are homeless people.

    There are fewer apartments for rent sitting empty for a year or more than there are homeless people.

    How exactly are you proposing that we fix the homelessness crisis with apartments sitting empty for a month?

    Owner-occupied housing is great. The only person who brought it up before this was me, when I pointed out that some vacant homes are actually owner-occupied.

    BombOmOm , in Americans Are Falling Behind on Their Car Payments
    @BombOmOm@lemmy.world avatar

    data from Edmunds says a record 17.5% of borrowers have payments of $1,000 or more

    That is a crazy high number. You are approaching mortgage territory there (yes, mortgages can be that price outside of cities). People need to stop spending so much on cars. They do not retain value.

    thedevisinthedetails ,

    While I agree cars themselves are just insanely expensive. A $25k car has you at $450+/month and this is if you have excellent credit.

    We need other options besides cars and unfortunately they’re the only option for many people.

    jrbaconcheese ,

    People choose $80k cars on 5-7 year notes because “they can afford the payment” thinking that means they can afford the car.

    wrath_of_grunge ,
    @wrath_of_grunge@kbin.social avatar

    there are a great many cars to be had for less money.

    maybe people shouldn't buy cars that cost half their yearly wages?

    CADmonkey ,

    But if I drive a Mirage the neighbors will make fun of me.

    NightAuthor ,

    Drive a Prius, all the cool kids are. Gen 2 makes you look kinda poor, but you still get green points. Gen3+, ur golden

    CADmonkey ,

    I actually have a mirage. The only neighbor who makes fun of me is the guy next door, he has a truck, maybe if he tries real hard it will run one day.

    Someone picks him up for work in a gen-2 Prius.

    NightAuthor ,

    Lmao, I wish him luck with his truck.

    FrostyTrichs ,

    There are some people in the US financing cars for 7-10 years. Half their yearly salary is actually more like 2x their yearly salary for many of them.

    akilou ,

    Exactly. “Not cars” is a solution to a ton of problems.

    Uranium3006 ,
    @Uranium3006@kbin.social avatar

    fuck cars

    JJROKCZ ,

    I bought mine with 0% interest for 36 months, best believe I’m paying that 1k bill in order to not have to pay interest lol

    IMongoose ,

    36k for a new car is a lot for me but that’s not the worst deal. The problem is people are paying over 1k a month for 6-7 years.

    JJROKCZ ,

    Yea that’s crazy to pay that for 7 years. The last car payment I had for 7 years was ~200 a month and I was 18 so credit was nonexistent.

    36k isn’t crazy for a hybrid AWD SUV in todays market, I paid a little more for the hybrid and AWD to get 45 mpg instead of 20s and the AWD is a safety feature since my part of the world gets severe winter weather.

    I’d love to have paid less but this is market is deranged

    wrath_of_grunge ,
    @wrath_of_grunge@kbin.social avatar

    i'm really not sure why so many people worry about the value of a car. it's not some super-expensive, incredibly rare car. most are average commuter vehicles. they're a tool. buy them, use them, keep them until they're wore out, and repeat the process.

    i never really had a problem with car debt. i currently am driving a Cadillac Escalade with 430k miles on it. i bought it 7 years ago with 160k on the odometer, for $12k. it's been a fantastic vehicle. no telling how much money that truck has made me over the years. it was a replacement for my beat up Tahoe that had about 325k on it when i traded it in.

    PlasmaDistortion ,

    Cars are so expensive now that you could probably sell it for more than you paid for it.

    grue ,

    270k miles in 7 years‽ Unless you’re a contractor or something and it’s part of your job, you drive way too fucking much.

    MagicShel ,

    I used to commute 1k miles per week. The wage differences, home prices, money saved by being close to family, and job market is such that this made financial sense. And the time in transit was about the same as when I commuted 350 miles per week when I lived near DC.

    COVID and work from home has been such a quality of life improvement it’s insane. On the other hand, the house we sold when we left DC for the Midwest has appreciated about $500k in 8 years (we check every once in a while on Zillow) so maybe that was a mistake. I certainly haven’t made up that difference in salary.

    pedalmore ,

    You spent somewhere around $54k in gas over 7 years @15 mpg and $3/gal. I wouldn’t take an Escalade for free if I drove that much.

    SheeEttin ,

    For ordinary cars, they’re not meant to. They’re meant to be driven. That naturally involves wear and tear.

    IHeartBadCode ,
    @IHeartBadCode@kbin.social avatar

    That naturally involves wear and tear

    Houses have wear and tear as well, they unsurprisingly do not suffer the same evaluation by the market as cars do. That doesn't tell the whole story because a lot of the depreciation of cars is how the market itself views that asset. Some cars even lose up to 20% their value once driven off the lot for pretty much the same reason an iPhone loses value so quickly when a new model comes out or isn't fresh out of the box.

    The entire point is that while the argument of "They're meant to be driven" and "wear and tear" are valid arguments they are valid because of how the market views that "wear and tear" as a massive negative. Some of that is spurred by the difference between rehabilitation of a used house versus rehabilitation of a used car, that's including the logistics of how a motor for an early 2000 model vehicle is much harder to find than say a replacement HVAC system. There's a bit of the logistics of how cars are made and how you cannot just drop XYZ transmission into a random car unlike say how you can just drop ABC model hot water heater into your plumbing.

    There's a deeper reason why that wear and tear on a car is so vastly different and thus treated differently than wear and tear on other more repairable things.

    BombOmOm ,
    @BombOmOm@lemmy.world avatar

    Exactly. Homes retain their value because repairing wear and tear is quite affordable. Even expensive repairs like a new AC or roof is still only a fraction of the cost of the home. And those repairs will last for 2+ decades.

    Meanwhile, an expensive repair for a car, such as a new engine, will often result in the car being sold to a junkyard due to the price relative to the value of the car being extremely high.

    Mac ,

    Yeah, I just spent $2,600 on a new engine for my car but my car is actually only worth $2,000. Lol

    Maggoty ,

    On the other hand, if that 2,600 is the biggest expense for the foreseeable future then it is far cheaper than buying a whole car.

    Uranium3006 ,
    @Uranium3006@kbin.social avatar

    Houses have wear and tear as well, they unsurprisingly do not suffer the same evaluation by the market as cars do.

    that's because you're not buying the house, you're buying the land the house sits on and the house is a nice bonus that's thrown in. sometimes "houses" get bought to be demolished so some rich asshole can build an even bigger house on the lot.

    grue ,

    My mortgage is that price inside a major city. Quite a few cars today – and not just hypercars or ultra-luxury ones, either – are approaching the same price I paid in 2009 for an entire 3-bedroom house. That’s just pants-on-head crazy!

    BruceTwarzen ,

    I make pretty good money and own my own house, no kids, and don't have crazy monthly expenses. But 1000 dollars a month would scare me.

    ohlaph ,

    Holy shit. That’s mortgage territory. I would master the public transportation system and buy an electric bike before spending that much per month.

    ApathyTree ,
    @ApathyTree@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

    That’s $400/mth more than my 2013 mortgage, and you can get a property at the same I paid for mine in 2013 now, just in Indiana instead of Wisconsin.

    I’ve thought about relocating because my property is now worth 3x what I paid, and that’s about the only option I have to net any perk from selling, but I don’t want to move somewhere that gets droughts in the best of times, much less with climate change.

    But for someone who just wants a place? There are some, and they all come with drawbacks.

    tory ,

    You think people can get $600/month mortgages in this economy? You seeing a ton of homes in Indiana for 75k?

    Because at 8% interest, that’s all you’re getting for $600/month

    ApathyTree ,
    @ApathyTree@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

    Yes, that’s my point. Look at the housing market in Indiana. There are lots of properties under 75k.

    They aren’t better than the place I live now, but they also aren’t worse.

    tory ,

    The only kind of place you’re getting for under 75k in America is gonna be 100% pictures taken from the outside by a bank representative as they try to foreclose on a very poorly located hovel.

    But sure, gl with your mystery box fixer upper.

    Hexarei ,
    @Hexarei@programming.dev avatar

    And this is why I own my car out right. Bought it for $11k in 2013 and plan to drive it till the wheels fall off

    Dkarma , (edited ) in A 30-Year Trap: The Problem With America’s Weird Mortgages

    Fta: "It’s a one-sided bet,” said John Y. Campbell, a Harvard economist who has argued that the 30-year mortgage contributes to inequality. “If inflation goes way up, the lenders lose and the borrowers win. Whereas if inflation goes down, the borrower just refinances.”

    Yeah won’t someone think of those poor lenders who make…let’s check my notes…130% on their investment or more over the 30 years and it is amortized so you pay the most interest up front in the first decade? Even if you refi you still start that interest over and pay thousands in closing costs to the bank on top of it.

    Waahhhhhh Cry me a fucking river.

    Lmfao The reason rate are locked is obvious.
    Why should I lose my home because interest rates changed and your mtg goes up 40%?

    That’s what happens with 5 -15 year loan terms.
    A buddy in the UK is facing this now. Because he can’t get a 30 year loan and can’t pay off his house he’s forced to restrcture and his payment is going from $800 to $1300.

    Man look at all that inequality defeated just like the article says it would be…not.

    pensivepangolin ,

    Yeh this is just thinly veiled propaganda.

    derf82 ,

    And the lenders don’t lose at all! They borrow the money at current rates, and immediately package it off to a mortgage backed security and sell it within weeks of closing. The only potential “loser” is the investor that buys the security, but that’s just the nature of investing.

    grue ,

    The only potential “loser” is the investor that buys the [mortgaged backed security], but that’s just the nature of investing.

    You say that, but we don’t have to allow that kind of predatory shit to exist.

    Taringano ,

    That’s actually a mechanism to inject more liquidity to the market. And therefore allow more loans, for more people.

    The opposite would mean rates would for sure increase because there would be very limited pool of capital to be loaned.

    grue ,

    You say that as if we didn’t have mortgages at reasonable rates back in the day before mortgage-backed securities were invented.

    Taringano ,

    I didn’t quite say that. I said it would be limited from now on.

    Cornpop ,

    Came here to say the same thing. What a bullshit article.

    Aux ,

    Don’t forget that your buddy has enjoyed years of super cheap mortgage unseen in the US.

    Rapidcreek , in Trump’s Eldest Sister Found Dead in Her Manhattan Home

    God misses again.

    mateomaui ,

    Only two left, odds getting better.

    PrincessLeiasCat ,

    The sad part is that it could still be a very long time.

    mateomaui ,

    The upside is I will still be alive to pee on his grave.

    PrincessLeiasCat ,

    I hope we both are. Date?

    mateomaui ,

    I’ll see you there!

    PrincessLeiasCat ,

    I’ll have my dancing shoes on!

    toasteecup ,

    Please excuse me, but I’ll be crashing this date in my party boots.

    HikingVet ,

    I’m waering my party boots to this shindig as well.

    mateomaui ,

    No worries, I expect voting day kind of lines for this.

    toasteecup ,

    Not to worry I fully intend to bring bouquets and booze for both of you.

    dgendreau ,
    @dgendreau@lemmy.world avatar

    Can I DJ?

    PrincessLeiasCat ,

    The louder the better!

    toasteecup ,

    In the words of the hardstyle of my late teens “make it fucking louuuuuuuud”

    dgendreau ,
    @dgendreau@lemmy.world avatar
    PrincessLeiasCat ,

    Hell yeah you will!

    toasteecup ,

    Not to worry I fully intend to bring bouquets and booze for both of you.

    tacosplease ,

    He needs to live at least until he’s convicted of trying to steal the election.

    gkd , in Second teacher at Missouri school on leave over OnlyFans side hustle: 'It’s working out ok so far'
    @gkd@lemmy.ml avatar

    Speculation about Gaither’s involvement on the platform began in mid-October when she was seen in a video posted on Coppage’s account. While the video didn’t include Gaither’s face, it was recorded at a party, and she was seen in a public picture wearing the same costume that was worn in the video posted on OnlyFans, according to the report.

    So are we not going to call into question the “professionalism” of whoever found this video? Or did someone just accidentally make their way to onlyfans and pay to access her content. 🙄

    killeronthecorner ,
    @killeronthecorner@lemmy.world avatar

    No, unfortunately they were found to have tits, but no vagina.

    Flickerby ,

    Don’t imagine they knew who it was before paying for it, seeing as the only way to see who it was is to pay for it first. To be fair I’d be surprised and uncomfortable if I knew my kid had a teacher who they could find videos of her spread eagle naked whenever they wanted. If the sexes were reversed and it was a male porn star who was teaching children there would be a national uproar. I don’t have anything against sex work but some jobs just don’t really mesh together too well, this is one such situation. The obvious solution is just to pay our fucking teachers more so they don’t have to get second jobs to live but people would rather just yell at her like she’s doing this for shits and giggles because that’s easier than addressing the root problem.

    gkd ,
    @gkd@lemmy.ml avatar

    Ridiculous that we “cant find” the money to pay the people educating the next generation more than this women is/will be making this year from posting photos and videos of herself online. Reveals a number of priorities that are out of line.

    Flickerby ,

    Yeah agree entirely. And we’ll pay it for as the years go on. I really don’t understand how investing in the future of our country is somehow a partisanship issue. I guess republicans just love inflicting misery more than their so called “patriotism”.

    TrickDacy ,
    @TrickDacy@lemmy.world avatar

    my kid had a teacher who they could find videos of her spread eagle naked whenever they wanted.

    Yeah because children not only know about and routinely use only fans, they have money and credit cards

    You’re just a pearl clutcher like the rest of them, don’t try to sound different. You are not different.

    Flickerby ,

    …Kids DO use the internet? And know how to swipe credit cards from their parents? Like this isn’t new, this has been thing since the late 90s lol

    TrickDacy ,
    @TrickDacy@lemmy.world avatar

    You say that like if one kid from school can do it then it’s an epidemic. The article states the pictures never showed her face. You are a pearl clutcher, nothing more

    Flickerby ,

    I’m a millenial lifelong socialist atheist with gay/trans parents but go off I guess. If you actually read my comment you’d notice that I have nothing against her and instead said she should be paid more so she wouldn’t have to go on only fans.

    Redscare867 ,

    You can be all of those things and still hold certain reactionary beliefs.

    Dankry ,
    @Dankry@lemmy.world avatar

    lol as a semi-professional stage magician with astigmatism and a penchant for cross country travel by rail I agree with the other person.

    SatansMaggotyCumFart ,

    I’m a millenial lifelong socialist atheist with gay/trans parents…

    Sure, we all believe you.

    SeaJ , in Ford Executive Chair Bill Ford calls on autoworkers to end strike, says company's future is at stake

    Sounds like the executives should take a pay cut.

    BottleOfAlkahest ,

    Realistically executive salaries probably won’t cover a salary increase across the workforce foe the whole country. Not doing a stock buy back just might though.

    Kbobabob ,

    Oh, i really hope someone does the math on this one.

    Dippy ,

    Take 100mil off his comp for employees, divide by their 57,000 UAWs listed above, divide by 52 (weeks), then 40 (hrs). Gets you an 0.84$ per hour per employee.

    In reality, based on latest filing, CEO’s comp for 2022 was 21 mil so 0.16$ raise per employee if you didn’t pay the ceo.

    Ford did 484mil $ in buy backs in 2022. Would give each 4$/hr raise

    Seen this a few times. Rarely does the ceo taking less really make much of a dent for people living paycheck to paycheck. Yea 16 cents is better than nothing but also not what these people need.

    ThatWeirdGuy1001 ,
    @ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world avatar

    That’s just the CEO though. What about everyone else near that level?

    SeaJ ,

    I would say all of the execs need lower pay. That would give them $52 million which works out to an extra $0.42/hr or about $900 per year. That is a perfectly fine addition to the $4/hr from stock buybacks.

    Wrench ,

    Stock buy backs were a single transaction, not a recurring annual transaction, so not apples to apples on wage.

    What they should have done is grant those stocks to their employees. Or their pension fund, whatever mechanism is most fair.

    To your point, it spreads thinly over a large work force. But sharing profits is the “right” thing to do.

    BottleOfAlkahest ,

    A lot of that CEO comp is also not in the form of cash, it’s in the form of things like stocks. So a lack of stock buy backs would automatically lower CEO/exec comp as well. That lowered Exec pay wouldn’t go directly to the employees (since it can’t be double counted) but if one of the goals is closing the delta as some have mentioned then no buy backs helps with both.

    Fraylor ,

    Por que no los dos?

    Djtecha ,

    The issue is the massive delta they’ve created. If it was 2to1 it wouldn’t be such a sticking point.

    TransplantedSconie , in Texas private company paid $75 million in 1 year to bus migrants out of state, report shows

    Hmmmmm. Sounds like kidnapping and human trafficking

    sfgifz ,

    Yeah, and what is anyone going to do about it? Nothing.

    iforgotmyinstance ,

    And a lot of fraud. These bus tickets do not run 1500 per person, even with associated rounding-up costs (although the victims likely assembled themselves as they were deceived).

    solivine , in Vigilante Pedophile Hunter Killed While Confronting Teens
    @solivine@sopuli.xyz avatar

    While they managed to catch 4 people, out of a total of 132 people that doesn’t sound very good, and might have even made it harder for the police to catch these people. One of them was found to be innocent, what if more of them were?

    hh93 ,

    I really don’t understand the boner so many Americans seem to have for vigilantism

    Just fix your goddamn police system - there’s a reason why vigilantism is outlawed since it’s too easy to misjudge or misidentify stuff and the consequences are horrible - let professionals do their job properly

    Sir_Kevin ,
    @Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

    I think that’s just it right there. Our police system is completely broken and for-profit. People want justice. So out of desperation they’re seeking it themselves.

    subignition ,
    @subignition@kbin.social avatar

    Just fix your goddamn police system - there’s a reason why vigilantism is outlawed since it’s too easy to misjudge or misidentify stuff and the consequences are horrible - let professionals do their job properly

    We've tried that, but the problem is they can't seem to do it without executing people, and/or the neighbor's dog, for fun.

    Potatos_are_not_friends ,

    Listen, in order to reduce crime in America, sometimes a bunch of innocent dogs, people in wheelchairs, children playing with toys, and people getting health checks have to die.

    Im14abeer ,

    Don’t forget flash banging infants in cribs sometimes they need to follow up with a bullet through the neck

    Cryophilia ,

    If we just kill everyone, there will be no more criminals. Flawless logic.

    Zahille7 ,

    I think part of it has something to do with the popularity of superhero movies like Batman and such. Honestly I think having the world’s biggest movie production system has been a net negative for Americans and humanity as a whole.

    kalleboo ,

    The US also has very much of a “cowboy” self image

    snooggums ,
    @snooggums@kbin.social avatar

    Cowboy justice in movies is kind of a semi whitewashed version of lynching.

    MNByChoice ,

    I think the cause is the other way around. We had vigilantes long before Batman. Cowboy movies weren’t making this stuff up.

    SCB ,

    Cowboy movies made a LOT of shit up. The Wild West was not full of gunfights

    JustAManOnAToilet ,

    I mean, you can visit the OK Corral and see where the bullets are lodged in the walls anytime you’d like.

    SCB ,

    Yep. That’'s one.

    Point is any old Western with a shootout is more likely to be totally false than even partially true.

    Zahille7 ,

    I remember reading somewhere that the “Old West” actually had pretty strict gun control.

    Iirc, the usual practice was to turn in your guns to the sheriff as soon as you got to town. You had to have a license or some official form stating you had the right to carry your gun with you, but it was still limited to basically just LEOs.

    flipht ,

    Alan Moore, who wrote Watchmen, was trying to make this point through his media, but he also explicitly stated it in interviews. He was like, "Y'all do realize that superhero stuff is fascist power fantasy, right? You shouldn't like this stuff as an adult."

    Zehzin ,
    @Zehzin@lemmy.world avatar

    Love his work as Rasputin impersonator.

    GCostanzaStepOnMe ,

    I don’t believe Moore ever said “y’all”

    afraid_of_zombies ,

    Vigilantism is not a modern invention. I am sorry not all movies are arthouse and that makes you sad.

    moody ,

    Oh sure, lemme just fix the police system real quick. Give me a minute. I don’t know why nobody thought of that!

    miversen33 ,

    Well shit if only we’d known all we had to do was fix it quick!

    Silly us!

    elbarto777 ,

    That’s it? Just fix the police system?? Whoa, why didn’t we think of doing this sooner?!

    Steeve ,

    Why don’t I just strap on my fix the police system helmet and hop in the fix the police system cannon and fire myself into fix the police system town where police reform grows on trees?

    athos77 ,

    While we do have a problem with vigilantes deciding that their contribution is vitally necessary to keep things running (see: Kyle Rittenhouse), I'm not really sure this qualifies as vigilantism in support of the law or even to protect kids from predators. Honestly, this just strikes me as yet another wannabe influencer/YT 'star', only instead of 'restoring' old items, cleaning cars/yards/houses, edging over weird 'recipes', or popping pimples, this guy's schtick was 'going after pedophiles'.

    agent_flounder ,
    @agent_flounder@lemmy.one avatar

    Fixing the police is great but I don’t think that’s enough to reduce child rape.

    Find the causes—childhood abuse / neglect, most likely—and aggressively address these social ills. Find more reliable ways to rehabilitate and use it for those convicted. Among other things.

    kent_eh ,

    Just fix your goddamn police system

    Policing doesn’t prevent crimes.

    And it was never really intended to.

    hh93 ,

    Vigilantism also doesn’t - what’s your point?

    kent_eh ,

    I never suggested that it did.

    itsnicodegallo ,

    I went through a period where I binge watched a bunch of episodes of that show, but I read that it was difficult to convict some of the people they caught because adults posing as children to lure people into getting arrested is considered entrapment or something. Therefore, their method of catching them could be considered unlawful, leading to the case being thrown out.

    TheBlue22 ,

    Actual police has better stats than this dude, and police is garbage

    answersplease77 , in Women are less likely to receive CPR in public than men: Study

    I live in a very strict and conservative country and once a young girl passed out in front of everyone. Her sister was panicking screaming at her to try to breath. I’m usually a savior vigilante type of guy whenever and wherever the situation but sadly at that time I was wearing shorts. So my immediate reaction was to nope out and pretend I didn’t see anything. They had to bring another woman who was working close by to do CPR and resuscitate her. The girl then survived obviously. I later had feelings of guilt that I did not step in to help, but in the same time I could’ve been jailed for touching her and worse get beaten by everyone there. what an awful dilemma …

    SpaceNoodle ,

    Was it illegal there to touch a woman while wearing shorts?

    qarbone ,

    I believe it’s more the fear of looking informal or unprofessional. Without more formal clothes, he was afraid of looking like a random chancer copping a feel instead of someone trying to save a life. Pretty silly in retrospect but definitely a possible fear in the moment.

    Obi ,
    @Obi@sopuli.xyz avatar

    I don’t know why but my brain went the direction of “it’s harder to hide a random boner in shorts” but don’t ask me why my brain is fucked that way.

    bobman ,

    It’s not you. Saying ‘wearing shorts’ is why you didn’t give CPR is fucking stupid.

    I_Fart_Glitter ,

    He said he could have been jailed or beaten for touching her. The shorts probably just made the situation worse.

    Daqu ,

    Just take the shorts off before helping

    cabron_offsets , in US to cancel Alaska oil, gas leases issued under Trump

    Fuck trump and the republican traitor filth.

    mysoulishome , in Steve Harwell, Smash Mouth Founding Singer, Dead at 56
    @mysoulishome@lemmy.world avatar

    I don’t see many compliments about Steve like the outpouring of love for people like Paul Reubens when they die, so I just wanted to share some nice words about him.

    My sister saw Smash Mouth and 3rd Eye Blind together in 1997 and Steve called out to the crowd “FUCK MARILYN MANSON.” I was taken aback at the time but realized he was basically calling out the focus on darkness, anger, self harm, violence etc in Marilyn’s music and the effect on the world (especially youth), vs positivity, togetherness. The music he’s put out seems to have embodies this.

    You don’t read a lot about his personal life or cutesy fan interaction ala Bill Murray or Keanu…but by all accounts he is a kind and humble guy. He seems to have struggled a lot with alcohol and mental health but loved to party and have a good time.

    I hope more people speak about with good things to say about him. I have a feeling he was a great guy we didn’t know very well.

    Son_of_dad ,

    He lost me when I saw him in a video trashed while singing and throwing up Nazi salutes and insulting the crowd. You can blame the alcohol all you want, but Nazi salutes are a line you don’t cross. So I dunno what happened to all his positivity, but it’s been long gone.

    pottedmeat7910 ,

    Sturgis Motorcycle Rally/Superspreader Event. As a healthcare provider during the pandemic, I lost any desire to hear All Star ever again.

    …sfchronicle.com/…/motorcycle-rally-where-smash-m…

    Buddahriffic ,

    That was the event that caused me to lose respect for them. I loved their music before that and was happy to see them gain popularity after Shrek and sad to see that popularity turn against them when radio shows overplayed All Star.

    But then they headlined what I saw as the symbol of the lack of resilience a portion of the population had and removed them from my playlists and don’t let my mind dwell on their songs anymore.

    And now I’m wondering if covid was a factor in his death. Even if his heart condition wasn’t caused by it in the first place, covid does a number on the heart and other organs, and I wonder if it took years off his life.

    RIP, I’ll let go of those feelings now.

    ThePantser ,
    @ThePantser@lemmy.world avatar

    He died of liver failure, it was the drinking that did him in. Wasn’t COVID it was the alcohol.

    matthewmercury ,

    Covid can cause terrible liver damage though.

    press.rsna.org/timssnet/media/…/14_pr_target.cfm?…

    I_Fart_Glitter ,

    When that video a few years ago went viral of him trying to sing (not at Sturgis) but being just absolutely to fucked up to even know where he was, there was a lot of talk about he went off the deep end drinking when his kid died. He was diagnosed with Wernicke- Korsakoff syndrome (“wet brain”) from drinking ten years before Sturgis.

    Wernicke’s encephalopathy has several potential symptoms. The most common issues are:

    A confused mental state, ataxia, or loss of the ability to coordinate voluntary muscle movement, double vision or other changes in your normal vision

    People with Korsakoff syndrome may also experience visual or auditory hallucinations. In addition, they may make up false stories without consciously meaning to deceive. Other symptoms are also possible. For example, you may undergo unusual changes in your normal behavior. You may also experience fatigue and an inability to concentrate. In addition, you may walk unsteadily or feel disoriented or delirious.

    mysoulishome ,
    @mysoulishome@lemmy.world avatar

    Did you watch the video or read the transcript? He’s telling people he’s going to kill then. More and more agitated, just flailing at anything. Flipping off the crowd. Completely out of his mind. Not saying doing a nazi salute is ok but this guy isn’t a nazi. It’s super sad. It sucks if that’s all he will be remembered for.

    FlyingSquid ,
    @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

    He was drunk. And yet I’ve been pretty damn drunk and at no point did I ever give a Nazi salute.

    Puzzle_Sluts_4Ever ,

    I will say that a few times in my life I’ve been a bit tipsy, holding something in one hand, and raised my arm to get someone’s attention in a crowd and had that “oh shit, this could look really bad out of context” reaction halfway through.

    But yeah. That is not at all what happened. Just pointing out that you can pretty easily do an accidental heil.

    tenochtitlan ,

    But have you been drunk with wet brain?

    czarrie ,

    I think there’s a gulf of difference between alcoholism that leads to end-stage liver failure and death and “I’ve been drunk before”. Considering he is dead in 2023, gonna say he was pretty pickled already in 2021, especially with whatever downtime the pandemic offered

    root_beer ,

    Apparently he was diagnosed with cardiomyopathy and wet brain from the alcoholism ten years ago; “pickled already in 2021” sounds like an understatement

    Puzzle_Sluts_4Ever ,

    Got it. Never judge someone by their words and actions. Instead judge them for not making an ass of themselves at a meet and greet a few decades ago.

    mysoulishome ,
    @mysoulishome@lemmy.world avatar

    Alright, he’s a violent racist if that makes you happy. The internet is so in love with labeling someone all bad or all perfect…

    Puzzle_Sluts_4Ever ,

    Dude, take a breath

    People are acknowledging his flaws and… they were pretty massive ones. You, for whatever reason, are talking about how “look, just because he was throwing up nazi salutes at an event associated with white supremacy doesn’t matter. he isn’t a nazi even though he is acting like one”

    Its not about “all bad” or “all perfect” to anyone except, apparently, you. It is about acknowledging reality and not glorifying shitheads. Like, to my knowledge, he never demonstrated violent tendencies so I would not call him “violent”.

    Like, it increasingly feels like people would throw a god damned temper tantrum if they ever listened to a performance of Hamlet.

    Rodeo ,

    He’s like my aunt. You can’t say a single word of criticism for anything around her, or she’ll attack you for not being positive.

    It’s very negative behavior, but she says the word positive a thousand times a day so she must be better than us!

    zaph ,

    If we’re not allowed to call people who go to rallies that white supremacists attend and throw up nazi signs, when are we allowed to call someone racist. FFS I’m tired of this “stop calling people racist” bullshit. Stop acting racist and people won’t call them racist.

    mysoulishome ,
    @mysoulishome@lemmy.world avatar

    I thought he did this at a regular concert. It was an event for nazis?

    zaph ,

    It was the yearly bike rally in Sturgis. It’s not entirely a white supremacist rally but it’s quite easy to find them there as they typically have flags and tattoos that help you spot them. If it was at his own concert there’s the tiny chance it could be some extreme mental break but he went were he felt welcome for this one.

    mysoulishome ,
    @mysoulishome@lemmy.world avatar

    None of the things I saw when I was trying to find the video today mentioned that…hmm

    zaph ,

    I might have it mixed with the covid rant but I’m going off memory and I’m pretty sure Sturgis was 2017

    afraid_of_zombies ,

    Shit. I want that deal.

    arefx ,

    I was/is an alcoholic (now sober) and I never resorted to Nazi salutes at my worst lol. I didn’t even think about that shit

    reverendsteveii , (edited )

    I drank professionally for about 15 years and I also never once endorsed genocide. It’s really easy to do. All you have to do is be a normal person to whom it would never occur as an idea in the first place.

    edit: lol @ the two downvotes who were like “not endorsing genocide is a constant struggle”

    ZodiacSF1969 ,

    He drank enough that it killed him. I think it’s safe to say he was in a different place than you were.

    AyyLMAO , (edited )

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  • Donjuanme ,

    His child died a couple years after all star. He tried to keep the music going, but it fucked him up badly.

    Ducks , (edited ) in Fauci on masks: people should take risks into account
    @Ducks@lemmy.world avatar

    This thread is evidence that the best thing that the mask mandate did aside from cut down on covid cases and thus save lives, is it outed everyone who is too selfish and stupid to function in society when asked to do something to protect their neighbors.

    I removed a couple of selfish, stupid people from my life thanks to the mask mandate, and I’m happier for it. I’m sure they are, too. Win, win.

    Godric ,

    Masking was effectively the shopping cart theory writ large.

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