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Deceptichum , in A Black man got a job interview after he changed the name on his resume. Now, he’s suing for discrimination | CNN
@Deceptichum@quokk.au avatar

Is ‘Dwight Jackson’ a black sounding name? I’d have assumed the person was white if I’d read that name.

PugJesus ,

Dwight not so much, but Jackson, yes.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

To the point that “Jackson” became jazz/jive-era slang that was the equivalent of “hey, what’s up?” when black people who used that slang were talking to each other.

SkybreakerEngineer ,
bamfic ,

Five of em were pretty famous. One even became the king of pop.

piecat ,

It’s also an extremely common surname for those of English/Scottish/Irish descent. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jackson_(name)

I’d be more willing to buy that they looked him up on social media and didn’t like what they saw. Whether or not that was his profile picture (race), or something he posted, is something I can’t answer.

But the name alone isn’t something I’d believe.

ThePantser , (edited )
@ThePantser@lemmy.world avatar

Agreed, it may just be a case of they weren’t hiring but then they were or the first resume was lost or a different manager looked at the resume. There are so many reasons what it could be that it shouldn’t be assumed race was a factor unless the hotel specifically said so.

Edit: reading the article I can see the guy applied many times before changing his name. I am slightly more convinced it was based on his name but it could still be they weren’t hiring but then they were. Or maybe they just wanted to meet the guy with such an awesome sounding name “Jabroski” sounds like something you would say in the 90s when Pauly Shore was popular. Memorable names stand out and make an impression.

eldavi ,

these, among others, are the reasons why i didn’t take the same action when i resubmitted my resume under a very WASPy sounding name and the desire gets re-ignited every time i get an interview request after re-submitting my resume the same day my original resume was rejected.

Reverendender ,

Can you expand on this at all? I’m very curious.

eldavi , (edited )

i don’t think there’s anything to expand upon: i submit my resume; then they reject me; then i resubmit the same resume but with different formatting along with a WASP sounding name on the same day i received the rejection; and then they request an interview from me.

givesomefucks ,

Over 50% of the people with that surname are Black.

discover.23andme.com/last-name/Jackson

That’s nationally too. So in a place like Detroit with a large Black population, I feel like people would assume Dwight Jackson was Black.

2484345508 ,

Yeah. Nothing wrong with that though.

GroundedGator ,

Also need to take location into account here. Detroit is 77% black Seems it would be pretty easy to show discrimination is there is a hotel in Detroit that is lacking in black employees.

iamericandre , in 'Black Americans for Trump' event a 'major bust' that featured 'a sea of white people'
SLVRDRGN ,

What other way is there to respond to this?

donuts , in LIVE UPDATES: TRUMP GUILTY ON ALL COUNTS IN HUSH-MONEY CASE
@donuts@kbin.social avatar

This is only the tip of the iceberg. Trump is a fucking convicted felon and a serial rapist. Fuck him. Now on to sentencing.

zcd ,

There may have been some light treason also

DJDarren ,

Who among us has never committed a tiny bit of light treason though…

NatakuNox ,
@NatakuNox@lemmy.world avatar

I have a confession… I never said the Pledge of Allegiance. I always just mouthed watermelon and put my left hand over the wrong side… Republicans probably think I’m more treasonous than Trump.

BigBananaDealer ,
@BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee avatar

nataku nox guilty on all count

RamblingPanda ,

It’s “Klaatu Verata Nektu”, you fool!

TachyonTele ,

I said your damn words!

neidu2 , (edited )

I never did the pledge. In fact, I never bothered to learn it.

PS: Never went to school in US

Flummoxed ,

I’m a teacher and have to pretend to be a good boy during the daily pledge. I have kept this up since high school: I always pledge allegiance to the United Snakes of America, and.end with reminding myself that there is really only liberty and justice for the rich and famous.

I think it’s my bad memory of Jello Biafra’s remake

Edit: Words are hard.

irreticent ,
@irreticent@lemmy.world avatar
Lemminary , (edited )

According to the posts, Trump supporters began to appear at rallies donning diapers and holding signs that said “Real Men Wear Diapers.” Some of them reportedly nicknamed the former president “Diaper Don,” and one woman wore a sweater that said “Diapers Over Dems.”

I’m glad to see the Snopes writers having fun with it lol

Cold_Brew_Enema ,

Steady as a rock!

Big_Boss_77 ,

I just about said “as long as there’s no barrotry” but I’m not 100% convinced he hasn’t done that now too…

khannie ,
@khannie@lemmy.world avatar

Just a smidge.

BaroqueInMind ,

The sentence for him will likely be akin to a wrist slap.

Olhonestjim ,

Could be the initial breach in the dam. If this knocks Cannon off the bench, that classified docs case should be enough to bury him under the prison.

TachyonTele ,

Dammit. My erection was just going down and now you gotta talk dirty like this?

FrostyTheDoo ,

How could this knock Cannon off the bench? I haven’t heard anything about that yet but if it’s a realistic possibility that’s a sweet ass cherry on top

Olhonestjim ,

Not directly, but that’s the thing with houses built of cards. It doesn’t take much after the initial push.

Katana314 ,

And here I thought impeachment was the initial breach in the dam. All this guy’s political career, people have been assuring me “This is it, he’s toast.”

donuts ,
@donuts@kbin.social avatar

He could run from prison, so there's no deus ex machina here.

When November comes around Americans are either going to be smart enough to reelect Biden or stupid enough to let a convicted felon, serial rapist, election denying, wannabe dictator slob take over the most powerful nation on Earth.

I know what I'm doing. Let's see if everyone else can pass the basic intelligence test known as "election 2024".

lost_faith ,

Take a 5 min peruse of r/republican… I fear for all

Olhonestjim , (edited )

His cult still held sway during the impeachment, and they’d tied all their hopes to him.

Katana314 ,

They don’t still hold sway now?

In a sane world, between a boring white guy with mild accusations of not doing enough to stop a war, and a snake oil salesman promising to rip down transgender protections and murder his opponents, there should be absolutely no chance of the latter winning a single state. Half of America is still wrapped up in his damn cult.

Olhonestjim ,

No, they’re flailing wildly. They sowed the wind and reaped the whirlwind. The Dems handed them everything they ever wanted for the border, and they voted against it. Mitch was their most brilliant strategist. He’s on the way out. He’s prepping Johnson to replace him, but anything could happen in a power vacuum. Russian money is faltering. An untouchable billionaire just got his ass handed to him. The GOP is internally divided, and anything BUT in control.

donuts ,
@donuts@kbin.social avatar

I'm not so sure...

I went into this trial knowing that it was the least of Trump's crimes and thinking that some brainwashed cultist would turn it into a hung jury. I was wrong, and instead we ended up with 34 consecutive guilty verdicts in less than 12 hours.

Now Trump is going to be sentenced by a judge who he has repeatedly called disgraceful and corrupt after weeks of sleep shitting through the trial. He has shown zero remorse and zero respect for the law. So other than the mythology of Teflon Don, why should the judge sentence him with anything less than he deserves?

hperrin , in NYPD officer caught on video punching pro-Gaza protester during Brooklyn rally

You ever wonder why there are no videos of cops tackling and punching white supremacists during their protests?

(It’s cause the cops are on their side.)

goferking0 ,

Too many just say no they should just open carry ignoring that it would just make the cops attack even harder

Liz ,

At least you’ll get to shoot back

mjhelto ,

Maybe, except all the examples of cops going from zero to “shooty-mcshooty-pants” as soon as they see or suspect you have a gun.

Liz ,

If it’s one person, yes. If it’s an entire crowd of people open carrying rifles, not so much.

Blackmist ,

Or indeed an acorn.

tiefling ,

There are plenty of videos of cops flashing white supremacist signs, though

Beetlejuice001 , (edited )

These people should be much more tightly regulated

Why hasn’t he been identified and arrested for assault yet?

gregorum ,

May I introduce you to the term “police work stoppage”

Beetlejuice001 , (edited )

Dereliction of duty & loss of pension

gregorum ,

Try to get that past the union

Beetlejuice001 ,

Wait a second, you’re telling me police have one of those evil socialist unions?

lobut ,

“some of those that work forces are the same that burn crosses”

zer0squar3d ,

Rage against the machine for everyone who doesn’t know.

barsquid ,

It’d be awkward at the office the next day if they punched a coworker.

rottingleaf ,

It’s about sides, but not about racism, I think.

Just the profession is mostly attractive to cowards who want to fill the inner void of self-respect by violence against others (or fear). Quite similar to how people become racist.

hperrin , (edited )

It’s definitely about racism. Racists are welcomed in the force. They’re just encouraged to keep it on the DL. You know, only wear the hood on the weekends.

rottingleaf ,

Racism is just one of great many things often uniting cowards.

Suavevillain ,
@Suavevillain@lemmy.world avatar

Friendly Fire is usually not enabled.

jordanlund , in Teens charged with vehicle theft, criminal mischief after attempting to run away from wilderness therapy program - KRBD
@jordanlund@lemmy.world avatar

Given how “therapy” programs like this are, at best, complete bullshit and, at worst, full of fraud and abuse, I’m leaning on supporting the kids here.

Obi ,
@Obi@sopuli.xyz avatar

Honestly even if the place is totally fine and treats the kids well, they’re teens doing silly teen things, slap on the wrist at most…

Tenniswaffles ,

These “silly teen things” could have very well ended with themselves or someone else dead.

SerotoninSwells ,
@SerotoninSwells@lemmy.world avatar

You can’t blame kids for trying to get away from camps if they’re abusive.

For anyone not aware of what goes on in some of these camps, give this a read: elan.school

Trigger warning.

Tenniswaffles ,

Nowhere did I say kids shouldn’t do whatever they can to escape abuse, I wholeheartedly agree with that. I was addressing the fact that the original comment was saying that there should be no consequences regardless if it was an abusive environment.

SerotoninSwells ,
@SerotoninSwells@lemmy.world avatar

I hear you and admit that I did misunderstand your point. Thanks for chiming in and clarifying. For the record, I didn’t downvote you and I’m sorry you’re being misunderstood overall.

ElderWendigo ,

That’s not a good enough excuse to not treat them like the children they are, with compassion and empathy. Scare mongering helps exactly nobody.

Hegar ,
@Hegar@kbin.social avatar

There was a recent case in NC where a 12 y/o was found dead with his underpants off and the camp obstructed the investigation and continues to maintain the death was accidental even after a coroner ruled it was not. It's the second death at that camp as well, previous one was in 2014.

https://www.wfae.org/crime-justice/2024-02-16/nc-regulators-shut-down-trails-carolina-camp-after-12-year-old-boy-dies

givesomefucks , in At Justice Alito’s House, a ‘Stop the Steal’ Symbol on Display

This is why it’s so fucking insane Dems keep appointing “moderates” to the SC…

Republicans are putting literal cult members, rapists, and insurrectionists on there.

And the best we get is someone who will legitimately be non biased (except for rich people, both parties pick justices biased towards the wealthy).

wildbus8979 ,
disguy_ovahea ,

It’s also insane that four Democrats voted in favor of Alito’s appointment. Of all the times to reach across the aisle, they do it on the longest lasting decision they’ll make in that position.

en.wikipedia.org/…/Samuel_Alito_Supreme_Court_nom…

Plastic_Ramses ,

When was the last time a democrat appointed someone to the SC?

ZombieMantis ,
@ZombieMantis@lemmy.world avatar

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ketanji_Brown_Jackson

Katanji Brown Jackson was appointed to the Supremell Court in 2022, by Democratic President Joe Biden. She replaced Stephen Breyer when he retired.

ShaggySnacks ,

Don’t worry Katanji is a black women. Black women are quite used to be completely ignored in society.

Black Women Often Ignored by Social Justice Movements

spongebue ,

Like Merrick Garland? Basically the only guy who could have maybe made it through a confirmation hearing with a Republican-controlled Congress when Obama was in office? Someone who couldn’t really be attacked on the merits, making it pretty obvious that McConnell’s shenanigans were 100% political? Or are Sotomayor, Kagan, and Jackson moderates?

LopensLeftArm , in Boeing forced to scrub first crewed Starliner launch to the space station
@LopensLeftArm@sh.itjust.works avatar

Yeah, apparently NASA are real sticklers about all the doors staying on all the time. Just ridiculous standards to expect!

EdibleFriend ,
@EdibleFriend@lemmy.world avatar

Thanks Obama.

hrimfaxi_work ,
@hrimfaxi_work@midwest.social avatar

Nanny state foolishness. It’s just crewed spaceflight, not rocket science.

ladicius ,

If they build without doors at all? Simply weld in the crew with enough food. Why get out of the vessel? Space is deadly anyway.

CaptainSpaceman ,
stembolts ,

It’s not that hard. I seen the Flintstones, just have the space people put their feet out the bottom and wiggle em real fast.

Why am I not in charge of space launches? Probably people are afraid of my intellect, and massive dong.

(copium)

Zier ,
@Zier@fedia.io avatar

I'm gonna need pictures of the massive dong incident before deciding if I'm scared or not.

stembolts ,

It’s umm, a quantum dong. Very rare, it appears very small in photographs but when not observed it is the size of Mount Fuji. Woe is me! To have the dong of the century but cursed to never show it.

Fear the quantum dong!!

Zier ,
@Zier@fedia.io avatar

So it must be viewed with a blindfold and a pair of hands? So far, semi scared!

UnderpantsWeevil ,
@UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

Move Fast and Break Things hasn’t been a NASA motto since at least February 1, 2003.

motor_spirit , in The governor of Kansas vetoed four anti-abortion measures. Republicans rammed them through anyway.

republicans forcing themselves up on the people, how goddamn shocking

the party of non consent and bitchy ignorance, jesus christ I despise them all

disguy_ovahea ,

They don’t go away if we don’t vote them out. Check the schedule for your district here.

ImADifferentBird ,
@ImADifferentBird@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Oh, believe me, I plan to.

RememberTheApollo_ ,

Forcing themselves on women, in particular.

RustyShackleford , (edited )
@RustyShackleford@programming.dev avatar

The time-traveler John Wilkes Booth showed Abraham Lincoln a vision of the modern Republican Party; the president promptly shot himself in disgust, ironically ensuring that the events that would lead to the waking nightmare we Americans find ourselves in would certainly unfold.

“Sic semper tyrannis” was never uttered by Booth, and was only attributed to him by future Confederate apologists.

He actually said, “Time is a flat circle.”

capt_wolf , (edited ) in Gay furry hackers leak data of transphobic pastor & far-right news network
@capt_wolf@lemmy.world avatar

I’m still waiting for the cat girls…

Edit: For whoever is downvoting me, this is literally the same group that hacked a nuclear research lab last year. Their demand was that they begin serious research into the creation of real life catgirls.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

I didn’t downvote you, but the context is appreciated because I didn’t know why you said that.

capt_wolf ,
@capt_wolf@lemmy.world avatar

My bad! I’m honestly surprised they didn’t mention it in the article! It’s journalistic gold!

Son_of_dad ,

Lemmy has gotten a lot less civil recently, people just downvoting for no reason and calling each other shit they wouldn’t dare say to a living person in front of them

Deceptichum ,
@Deceptichum@sh.itjust.works avatar

Are you new to the internet?

otp ,

I mean, downvotes are supposed to be for irrelevant comments. Anyone who missed the reference would easily assume it to be irrelevant.

Jax ,

I think it’s amusing how there are several people ITT that think the way people use upvotes and downvotes changed all because some amorphous entity tied to Lemmy said so.

They are absolutely “I agree with this” and “I disagree with this” buttons, Hexbear should have definitively proven that to all of you.

otp ,

Just because people stick cotton swabs in their ears doesn’t mean that they’re supposed to be used for that.

Jax ,

Oh, I see, so you must pronounce GIFs, ‘JIFs’ then?

otp ,

You really shouldn’t stick cotton swabs inside your ear holes. They’re not even that great at cleaning them out.

Jax ,

Imagine pronouncing gif as jif

otp ,

It’s literally gift without the t though

Jax ,

You’re right, and people just q-tips to clean their ears.

What the creator intends does not matter, at all.

otp ,

But being fit for use does matter though.

Cotton swabs pick up portions of ear wax, so it might make you feel happy, but they often push wax deeper which can lead to impacting.

Upvote/downvote based solely on agree/disagree may make you feel good for getting a little colour to match your opinion, but it doesn’t result in good conversation or better content on Lemmy.

Albbi ,

I wouldnt call a few downvotes ‘less civil’. Without the edit, the parent comment looked like a weird non sequitur. With the comment there was more context and now it has a lot of upvotes.

capt_wolf ,
@capt_wolf@lemmy.world avatar

Totally why I clarified. I realized people probably had no idea what I was talking about. I figured more people would get the reference, but was obviously wrong. Not anyone’s fault there but mine!

Couldn’t not share it with people though. Such a crazy piece of news…

KillingTimeItself ,

the irony of this comment being downvoted is not lost.

Or maybe it is, idk if i can find it.

echodot ,

people just downvoting for no reason

Not what they’re for. The downvote is not a “I disagree with this comment” button, It is a measure of how relevant to the discussion a comment is.

In this case your comment about how everyone is bad and evil and everything is actually not at all relevant to anything in this discussion

Jax ,

I think it’s amusing how there are several people ITT that think the way people use upvotes and downvotes changed all because some amorphous entity tied to Lemmy said so.

They are absolutely “I agree with this” and “I disagree with this” buttons, Hexbear should have definitively proven that to all of you.

UnfortunateShort ,

I mean, fair enough

BeMoreCareful ,

AND THE RESEARCH?!

That sounds like an interesting line of study, do you have and further insight on progress?

Pan_Ziemniak , in Ukraine was in trouble already — now it openly admits it's on track to lose

Almost like the west isnt funding them the way they are supposed to. To anyone in the US, this is why you need a democratic majority in the house. Russia has already called Ukraine a stepping stone multiple times, but US news is a awash with nothing but news on Gaza and israel despite the US policy on israel being unfortunately decided for 70 years now. So instead of pressuring our govt to act on Ukraine, we have protestors wasting their effort on the wrong genocide, one which the US was never going to stop, and is much smaller in scale. Its a dismal way of looking at things, but it is not incorrect.

Quacksalber ,

But haven’t you heard? The US has already committed LITERAL BILLIONS to Ukraine, and what did it get us? Nothing! Just imagine if that money would’ve been spent here! We could have spent it on schools Some poor CEO could’ve had fat bonuses! Maybe we could’ve cancelled the medical debt of 100 people We could’ve spent more on covering up environmental damage without doing anything against the companies that caused that damage.

I tell you, if we wouldn’t have spent that money on Ukraine, we could’ve medicare for all, student loan forgiveness, functioning infrastructure and a sane republican party. But because we spent those billions on Ukraine, sadly, we had to budget a little and got none of the above. If only we still had that money, all of our woes would be over!

Pan_Ziemniak ,

sigh

We didnt spend billions on Ukraine. We donate old arms worth billions that were due to be phased out anyway to Ukraine. Crappy media reporting has really done on number on everyone who believes otherwise. And guess what? That weaponry was doing the trick. As predicted, giving Ukraine an absolute fuckload of our outdated shit is held russia back.

But sure. Lets let Poland, Finland, and Lithuania fall next -___-

JowlesMcGee ,
@JowlesMcGee@kbin.social avatar

They were being sarcastic, by the way.

Atelopus-zeteki ,
@Atelopus-zeteki@kbin.run avatar

But without the /s, who would ever know? /s

Quacksalber ,

I was sweating over here, not being able to come up with anything more in the realm of fiction than a sane republican party.

Pan_Ziemniak ,

I kinda thought so at first, but rereading ur comment i figured id better reply since u can never be to sure. Sorry dude. I guess u make a convincing republican when u try :p

Pan_Ziemniak ,

Oops! I am dumb, by the way.

MakePorkGreatAgain ,

almost like it was a poor investment that didnt pan out.

Quacksalber ,

Yes, we need more crypto-bro mindsets when approaching the defense of allies. Invest big and hodl! Diamondhands!

Son_of_dad ,

Well I mean most Westerners have moved on and forgotten about Ukraine. They have a short attention span now it’s all Palestine and Ukraine can go fuck itself I guess

capem ,

To be fair, Israel is killing way more civilians than Russia is.

The US is also backing Israel, which it is not doing for Russia.

Son_of_dad ,

The u.s has killed more civilians than both combine. That’s why I roll my eyes at Americans suddenly taking the moral high ground, not against their own atrocities, but that of others. It’s easy for Americans to be outraged at other nations committing crimes when they ignore their own. My people were killed and used as target practice by Americans, and I don’t remember a single soldier being disciplined for it.

That’s why I hate how full of bullshit morals Americans are

hark ,
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Protesting against genocide is never a waste of effort. Following your logic, Ukraine is a lost cause because Russia is determined to invade it and US congress is too divided to stop it anyway, so no one should care.

Eximius ,

You’re not following his logic. He puts priority on the bigger genocide. And posits that there are too many Zionists in USA, so it’s much more hopeless to stop Israel support fast, might as well continue with the big fish.

hark ,
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The situation in Palestine is a one-sided slaughter, with a million Palestinians on the verge of starvation. There is no stopping Russia quickly either, unless maybe if you propose direct US military participation, and even then that may not put a swift end to things.

Eximius ,

Stopping Russia is about just sending ammunition and supplies to Ukraine, they will fight for themselves, but they might run out of bullets at this rate (literally the current state of affairs).

USA openly and cozily supports Israel with deep rooted Zionism, you cant change this quick it would appear, and is what my two comments and the other guy is saying.

Gaza strip is 0.5mil, Ukraine is 38mil. Russia doing another Holodomor is entirely real and possible.

Hobbes_Dent , in Ukraine was in trouble already — now it openly admits it's on track to lose

Donald Trump did this.

Because he’s a sucker and has an orbit of selfish traitors.

Dark_Arc ,
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For those not in the know: Donald Trump did this by trying to extort Ukraine to “find shit on Biden” in exchange for weapons, which is why he was impeached the first time.

He also just general signaled to Putin he really doesn’t care about honoring US alliances with his demands and general disregard for the importance of NATO.

pyrate37 ,

Would not be surprised if a Ukrainian refugee takes a shot at him.

JoBo , in Gun supervisor for 'Rust' movie to be sentenced for fatal shooting by Alec Baldwin on set

She was crap at her job but she was also too inexperienced for it and employed to do it by cost-cutting producers who took so many shortcuts on set safety, half the crew walked out before this happened.

More powerful heads need to roll.

DrSleepless ,

Should we hire the old dude who is expensive but has a ton of experience?

Nah, pretty woman with not much experience is cheaper.

Drivebyhaiku ,

This is more than a little misogynistic. There are female armorers in their 20’s out there who are kicking ass after a couple of gigs and old dogs who refuse to change with the times who are timebombs waiting to go off. Gender, how pretty you are, even experience have nothing to do with aptitude. On a set it’s more mindset, willingness to learn, commitment to doing the craft well and wits than experience.

You want to blame something, blame industry nepotism. That’s why she was there. She’s the kid of another armorer who pulled strings for her to get her jobs. Not a gendered thing either. The majority of people I see fucking shit up in my industry aren’t there because someone has aspirations to sleep with them, it’s because they are somebody’s kid, relative or best friend and they can’t be fired.

Film has enough gendered bullshit issues without people pulling this shit about one of the few departments that actually has gender parity.

ThrowawayPermanente ,

Women are usually less cavalier when it comes to safety

lingh0e ,

Cite your sources.

ShepherdPie ,

Car insurance rates for men and women.

ThrowawayPermanente ,

You guys are nuts sometimes

SeaJ ,

I think this is a case of nepotism. Her father was a well known armorer. It turns out that does not count as experience.

You are correct that the person in charge of hiring (the producer) should be charged as well.

DragonTypeWyvern ,

Oh, which one? Because there were six.

Funnily enough, the DA decided that Baldwin wasn’t actually doing anything as one of them, which I don’t think should be a surprise to people familiar with the idea of celebrity producers.

Grimy ,

If you are given a loaded gun on a movie set and told it’s safe by the person in charge of gun safety, you can’t be blamed when it goes off.

Maybe he is as fault for cutting costs but that’s not at all what he was being charged with.

Tripp1976 ,

Proper gun safety is to always check yourself.l, especially since they had live ammo on the set. These are tools that kill people, you can never be too safe and he should have checked the mag before they shot.

Linkerbaan ,
@Linkerbaan@lemmy.world avatar

especially since they had live ammo on the set.

At that point all gun safety is already thrown out of the window

lepinkainen ,

A movie set is not supposed to have a single round of live ammo.

Also you can’t compare actors to other people holding guns for the reason above.

CosmicTurtle0 ,

I remember an episode of the Better Call Saul podcast where Vince Gilligan was talking about safety on the set. This was WAY before this incident.

It was something about how they worked with guns and how they use squibs, etc. The way that actors are told about the guns they are using is that the armorer hands them the gun opened, fully emptied. The actor and the person being shot watches as the armorer handles the gun and it is in full view of everyone involved. The gun doesn’t leave the sight of the actor or the armorer as everyone gets in place.

Once everyone is ready, the gun is handed to the actor and then the scene is shot.

The amount of checking and double checking that is done is way over the top. And that’s just for a non-functioning gun For guns with squibs, even more oversight and more checking.

“We’re making a TV show for Christ sake. No one should get hurt, let alone die, because we’re shooting a scene.” (horrible paraphrase of Vince).

The actor shouldn’t “assume” the gun is safe when it’s handed to them. The actor KNOWS it’s safe because they saw it. The armor KNOWS it’s safe because it’s their job. There are no "should"s.

Grimy , (edited )

From what I remember, a live round got mixed with the blanks. I don’t think actors are expected to inspect every round let alone know the difference.

As a director on set, maybe Baldwin knew about the live round and even encouraged it, in which case he shares the blame.

But as the person who shot the gun when he was supposed to while filming, I cannot say the same.

And honestly, gun safety isn’t about having the actor, someone who knows nothing about guns, be the last line of defense. If the armorer went through the motions and told him it was safe, how could he spot the difference?

Its a movie, the actor has no gun safety knowledge. Gun safety is paramount but absolutely zero of that responsibility falls on the guy being paid because he looks good and says the lines well.

But tbh I wasn’t there. Maybe he was seriously negligent.

girlfreddy ,
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Simply by aiming the gun at another human being and pulling the trigger = Baldwin being negligent. Only dumbfucks do shit like that.

angrystego ,

He didn’t shoot it when he was supposed to. It was during a break, not in the middle of shooting a scene.

skizzles ,

As someone that has been working around weapons for the better part of 20 years, I disagree with your statement of not being blamed.

It’s unfortunate yes, but whoever had that weapon in their hands and pulled the trigger should hold some blame.

If anyone ever hands you a weapon, movie set or not, it should be checked.

I do understand that it doesn’t quite work that way but that’s how it should be. Anyone handling a real weapon, especially during the course of ones job, should be required to go through training.

VelvetStorm ,

Nah, one of the very first things you are taught about gun safety is to always assume a gun is loaded until you have checked it for yourself. If someone hands you a gun, you should always check it no matter what. I’ve been in to firearms since I was 8 years old, and I’ve never had a negligent discharge.

theyoyomaster ,

They were filming in a state that has a law specifying the exact opposite. “I thought the gun wasn’t loaded” is codified as not being an excuse for a negligent shooting and there isn’t a “it was a movie set” carve out to the law. Hollywood also seems to be extremely split on this with some actors saying you always check and take personal responsibility and others saying to just trust what you are told. If anything hopefully this will lead to actual best practices being adopted industry wide because the current hodgepodge isn’t cutting it.

FlyingSquid , in J.K. Rowling will not be arrested for comments about transgender women, police say
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But will she continue bitching about it like Jordan Peterson still does about the law in Canada that he didn’t get arrested for supposedly violating?

avidamoeba ,
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100%

FlyingSquid ,
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So many bigots suffer from perpetual victimhood.

lobut ,

Misinterpreted the law and went on a campaign about how he’d protest it and go on some sort of hunger strike like a martyr. Everyone that platformed him during that time owes everyone an apology.

TVgog56789 ,

She did send Harry Potter into the ladies toilet though 🤔

She also said she created Harry because she wanted to be a boy.

If She is not against transgender men. Then she may want everyone to be a boy.

medium.com/…/harry-potter-transgender-hero-83094e…

“I was supposed to be a boy,” she notes in A Year in the Life, a 2007 documentary

EmpathicVagrant ,

Oh my goodness, that’s a tragic tale that explains so much. Back story really does make a difference in perspective, but she’s still a massive anal fissure of a person for alienating others and perpetuating the suffering she was passed.

captainlezbian ,

Yeah if the most dramatic interpretation of all that is true, and I’m not saying it is, it’s not an excuse. A lot of the worst things done at anti gay conversion groups are done by people who objectively experience significant same gender attraction. That doesn’t absolve the straight people who taught them to hate themselves but their self hate manifests as torturing those who don’t hate themselves. It’s still evil to torture them no matter why you do it.

fuego ,

It’s sad watching you people twist your brains into knots to avoid realizing that some people don’t agree with you.

NikkiDimes ,

This has nothing to do with not agreeing with people.

LwL ,

Oh, it’s the trans version of being gay is a choice i guess…

Would explain a lot, because to most transppl the thought of someone wanting to be what they were assigned at birth makes no sense whatsoever. But regardless it’s not hard to accept that others might feel like you do but in reverse. Shows one hell of a lack of empathy to then conclude that must mean anyone claiming they do want to must have ulterior motives.

Maybe that at least means there’s hope for her to realize what kind of bs she’s spouting, but she’s probably a lost cause.

TheBat , in Feds Recently Hit Cargo Giant In Baltimore Disaster For Silencing Whistleblowers
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And racists were posting bile against the Indian/Sri Lankan crew on the ship.

As if they were responsible for disaster and not the greedy rich pricks.

yarr ,

And racists were posting bile against the Indian/Sri Lankan crew on the ship.

You’ll notice they disappeared pretty quickly when it was revealed pilots from the harbor were at the helm… ah, such is the life of a racist. Quickly running from one manufactured outrage to another… don’t let facts get in the way of a good rage session.

Olhonestjim ,

Yep, it’s nearly always local pilots to drive in and out of ports. They know the area best.

DragonTypeWyvern ,

It’s almost too bad, in a way.

Indian racists/casteists will mutter about DEI themselves. Would have been hilarious to see the cracks in that alliance start to widen.

MB420GFY ,

as long as the republican party is a force in politics, these companies will continue to get away with this shit.

exanime ,

They were not even at the wheel… Local crew manoeuvres these boats out of port

Simulation6 ,

Is it even the local pilots job to verify the ship is, well, ship shape?

exanime ,

No clue, but that is not the point was replying to

gregorum , in Don't trust Trump's 'impossible' appeal bond claims, attorney general tells judges

Here’s the thing: Trump may have the right to appeal, but he doesn’t have the right to be able to afford the bond. And he if he can’t, there’s no damned reason for the court to give a shit, especially if he refuses to give any solid explanation as to why he both claim to be a “billionaire” while at the same time pleading poverty.

So, Donnie, pay the bond or the state gets to take your shit. End of story.

Dkarma ,

It’s really a catch 22 for him so he’s trying any and everything. He knows it will destroy him when he has to pay this. His empire is a hollow shell leveraged to the tits.

If when the state starts selling these properties they’re gonna have to sell them all and even then it won’t be enough so he’ll have any trump org royalties garnished too until kingdom come.

whoisearth ,
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His only hope is to somehow delay until he’s president again (FML)

gregorum ,

There’s pretty much zero possibility of that happening. And, for the record, there’s also almost no possibility of him winning this appeal, either.

b3an ,
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I really hope they’re watching closely though. Imagine Russia or China or North Korea giving him the money…

gregorum ,

The Chubb group (who financed the ~$90M bond in the E Jean Carrol case)? That company’s CEO is in charge of financing several Russian oil companies and a bunch of other shady shit. Oh, Trump already got a bunch of dirty money.

Thing is, that’s all they’re willing to give him, which may indicate that he’s run out of usefulness to them.

b3an ,
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That’s a good sign! I’d really love to see his house of cards collapse.

Corkyskog ,

Or they just want him to sweat a little.

EatATaco ,

especially if he refuses to give any solid explanation as to why he both claim to be a “billionaire” while at the same time pleading poverty.

He’s not claiming poverty, he’s claiming that he will win on appeal, but his wealth is all locked up in real estate, and to make the bond in time he would have to quickly sell a lot of assets, and would likely get taken advantage of while doing so.

It doesnt matter and it doesn’t fit trumps typical braggadocios speech, which is why I have no idea why this constantly get misinterpreted.

gregorum , (edited )

It’s even more likely that his ownership stake in the real estate holdings has been mortgaged to the hilt and he actually doesn’t have any capital available at all. The most likely reality is that he’s going to have to declare bankruptcy, and is terrified of the public finding out.

EatATaco ,

Yeah I’m not speaking to what the truth of the matter, only what he’s claiming. It would be surprising to me that he has nowhere to go for the money, as you say.

It’s just mind numbing to come into every one of these threads and see this nearly exact misinterpretation of what he is saying.

gregorum ,

Well, one thing plays into the other— he can’t get a bond because he’d have to put up collateral, and all of these bond companies know he’s up to his cotton-candy bouffant in debt, so all of his properties probably aren’t worth shit, or, at least not worth anything close to what he claims. After all, he was just found liable in this very case for lying for years about that very thing.

How everyone is missing the giant, Raiders of the Lost Ark-style boulder of irony about to crush Trump is what perplexes me.

EatATaco ,

I can quickly come up with some reasons why they might not want to put up the collateral that have nothing to do with his actual finances: like public backlash, being notorious for not paying back his debts, and being convicted of lying about how much stuff is worth (so not trustworthy in that regard).

It’s just none of this has anything to do with what he’s actually saying. Which is ultimately my point.

And we are both sitting here with our popcorn anxiously awaiting it to all come crashing down. It can’t happen soon enough, IMO.

gregorum ,

Those are all other possibilities, I just don’t find them as likely IMO. But they could be. But, either way, my point is that - and I was more explicit about it in another comment - it doesn’t matter what he says, especially to the court. He has the right to appeal and the right to post a bond, but Trump has no right to be able to afford a bond, and if he can’t, tough shit.

And he’s got 4 1/2 days to beg, borrow, or steal it before the People of the State of New York come after his grifting ass.

orbitz ,

It was also testified in a deposition (or similar that would be perjury for lying, maybe not by Trump I can’t recall) that he (or Trump org?) had 400million liquidity, so it shouldn’t be that big of an issue for him to come up with it. Even if he had to deal with the defamation bond. So he (or his lackey) told the courts that they could cover it, I mean a real estate billionaire down 100million should be able to come up with 150million (sorry if math is off, liquidity - defamation bond - tax-fraud bond difference) from non liquid assets without too much work right? I’m sure some bond company would cover it with proper collateral anyways. Hah. These are the chickens coming to roost you orange turd.

gregorum ,

That $400 million is, apparently, “operating capital” intended to keep all of his business ventures working, and, without it, everything would cease to function. Which is plausible.

But who really gives a fuck? Certainly not the courts, nor should they. Also, he may not even have that left after getting that ~$90m bond for the E Jean Carrol case (another reason this judge isn’t listening to Trump’s cries for mercy). That bond probably cost twice that after all the fees.

He’s so superfucked.

bradorsomething ,

I bet Nikki is excited.

Mirshe ,

I honestly don’t think it MATTERS anymore. He could go on and tell the camera, dead on, that “I lied about every last bit of money I own, I lied about how I made that money, I lied about every single thing I ever said.” His cult has a momentum of its own now, it’s arguably far beyond his control - even if he did manage to go up and read off every single lie and WHY it’s a lie, it wouldn’t matter, because his followers would just go “well he was FORCED to say that” or somesuch and that reality would be accepted as gospel. Cults, especially cults of personality, have a nasty habit of gathering momentum far exceeding the object of worship.

jkrtn ,

“It’s a code, he’s trying to tell us the election was stolen with fraudulent ballots.”

jkrtn ,

The cult loves having their persecution complex by proxy through Donald. He will say “they are coming after you” and “I am the only one standing in their way.” But, you know, with the weird meandering asides and the accordion hands.

FlyingSquid ,
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“I only paused my campaign.”

michaelmrose ,

If he has equity why couldn’t he mortgage it?

tal ,
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Frankly, if I were a mortgage lender, I might be a little hesitant to lend to a guy who is in trouble because he was defrauding real estate lenders.

EatATaco ,

I didn’t claim he had equity. I did nothing other than challenge the claim that he’s pleading poverty.

EpeeGnome ,

The speculation is that due to him fraudulently over-valuing his properties (as just proven in court) to borrow more than they are worth against them, he likely has negative equity on those properties. Can’t borrow against equity if you’re underwater on all your mortgages.

stoly ,

It’s also notable that this law was meant to apply to organizations rather than individuals, who would presumably have the resources to put up the bond. This is the first time that a private individual did something big enough to get caught up in this.

gregorum ,

lol, I didn’t know that. I appreciate you mentioning that Trump is actually such a big fucking liar that he made legal history for it.

And is now about to lose literally everything as a result, including, quite possibly, the election.

FlyingSquid ,
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including, quite possibly, the election.

If I believed in a god, I would be praying or sacrificing or whatever I was supposed to do pretty much constantly until November to ensure that.

Whiskey_iicarus ,
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rAmen

anon_8675309 ,

You noodle.

Olhonestjim ,

Believers can rest assured I don’t secretly believe in their gods, because if I was going to pray for anything, I’d pray for Trump to receive ultimate justice and humiliation.

kent_eh , (edited )

especially if he refuses to give any solid explanation as to why he both claim to be a “billionaire” while at the same time pleading poverty.

And doing so to the very court who already found him guilty of fraud.

They already know he’s a lying grifter. What reason do they have to believe him this time?

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