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PP_BOY_ , to memes in History
@PP_BOY_@lemmy.world avatar

This isn’t a meme.

Grayox OP ,
@Grayox@lemmy.ml avatar

tHiS iSn’T a mEmE

PP_BOY_ ,
@PP_BOY_@lemmy.world avatar

I’m glad you agree

papalonian ,

Oh Jesus, it’s the same annoying guy that posts the stupid Dale Earnhardt “memes”.

This guy would upload the IRS tax handbook as a meme if he could

DrQuickbeam ,

Do you have a high res version of this not-meme?

neptune ,

It’s text over a picture. It’s certainly an element of culture passed between people.

moosetwin ,
@moosetwin@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

this isn’t a meme (slang)

NightAuthor ,

I remember when someone adamantly tried to tell me that a copy-pasta wasn’t a meme….

And you’d be memeing if you tried to pull that shit on me all “ironic” like.

Omega_Haxors ,

Hate to break it to you, but a meme, by definition, is political propaganda.

Yes, all those images you’ve been laughing at these years were part of a political project. They looove hiding in plain sight.

AVincentInSpace ,

ah yes, the subliminal political message inherent in memes showing what my face looks like when i’m lying in bed and drop mh phone

Omega_Haxors ,

I guess some white guy on youtube needs to explain it before people will see the connection.

AVincentInSpace ,

Would you like to try?

GeekyNerdyNerd ,

Ah yes the widespread political message that was “me and the boys out at 3am looking for beans”

How could we possibly have missed those political overtones.

Dude you must be on some extremely powerful drugs if you think all memes are political propaganda.

MasterNerd , to linux in Based KDE 🗿
@MasterNerd@lemm.ee avatar

Kinda weird that they’re calling it an OS, but ig they’re just trying to cater to the windows audience

killerinstinct101 ,

KDE neon is what they’re selling

glibg10b ,

Selling as in advertising, I might add. Neon is free

rwhitisissle ,

Which is…still not an OS. It’s a distribution. Specifically, it’s a fork of Ubuntu. To reiterate what the OP was saying, they’re catering to the Windows audience, who understand the concept of a “new Windows version,” but who wouldn’t understand the concept of a distribution.

Kusimulkku ,

It’s actually not even a distro, according to their own description at least

Is it a distro?

Not quite, it’s a package archive with the latest KDE software on top of a stable base. While we have installable images, unlike full Linux distributions we’re only interested in KDE software.

rwhitisissle ,

Sounds like a distribution that they don’t want to call a linux distribution.

Kusimulkku ,

They probably feel like the name distribution means more than just slapping a DE on it and basically a PPA. Then again, haven’t stopped loads of distros from doing that hah.

Could be another way to discourage people using it as a beginner distro or something.

rwhitisissle ,

I mean, there’s over a thousand linux distributions already and it feels like they just don’t want it to be another drop of water in the ocean.

killerinstinct101 ,

What exactly is an OS to you? All distros are operating systems because they ship all the tools and utilities need for the system to function (on top of a package manager).

The fact that the KDE devs didn’t write that code themselves doesn’t disqualify it from being an OS.

rwhitisissle ,

An OS is the interface layer between hardware and software. It’s the first code that runs after the boot loader, and it exposes an API for syscalls that allow user processes to allocate typically restricted resources, while also tracking and maintaining those allocated resources, doing process scheduling, and a bunch of other critical tasks.

All distros are operating systems because they ship all the tools and utilities need for the system to function

All distros contain operating systems (or, more accurately, kernels), or, rather, are built on top of them. A distribution is a collection of curated software, along with an init system and, for linux, package manager, and, frequently, a particular desktop environment. These pieces of software are, on some level, superfluous. You can have an OS without them. They don’t comprise the OS as a distinct conceptual layer of a computer system, of which there is the hardware, operating system, application, and user layers. The operating system is just Linux - because that is the interface layer between the hardware and software.

Saying “all distros are operating systems” is like saying “all cars are engines.” It’s just wrong. And I don’t care what wikipedia has to say about it.

Kusimulkku ,

Neon is more of a testbed than a proper distro (they don’t actually even use that word).

Is this “the KDE distro”?

Nope. KDE believes it is important to work with many distributions, as each brings unique value and expertise for their respective users. This is one project out of hundreds from KDE.

rbits ,

It’s a proper distro, that’s just saying it’s not THE official one

Kusimulkku ,

Uhm

Is it a distro?

Not quite, it’s a package archive with the latest KDE software on top of a stable base. While we have installable images, unlike full Linux distributions we’re only interested in KDE software.

neon.kde.org/faq#is-it-a-distro

rbits ,

Oh ok

KISSmyOS , (edited )

I’d just like to interject for a moment. What you’re referring to as Linux is in fact KDE/Linux, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, KDE plus Linux.

d_k_bo ,

I’d just like to interject for a moment. What you’re refering to as Windows, is in fact, Adware/NT, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, Adware plus NT.

theshatterstone54 ,

Adware + New Technology (from the 1990s)

the_post_of_tom_joad ,

I finally get this reference! I think this could mean im ready to try Linux again

KISSmyOS ,
aberrate_junior_beatnik ,

It’s time to write free software and defend rapists, and I’m all out of programming talent

theshatterstone54 ,

Haha (but in all seriousness, his lack of understanding of the issue was embarrassing, even if he did apologise afterwards; it’s like Ballmer: everyone remembers him saying “Linux is a cancer”, yet nobody remembers him apologising, when he saw Satya Nadella found a way to make money off Linux, rather than look for ways to tear it down as competition). In both cases these men saw that a change in their stance would allow them to achieve their goals (of promoting free software, and making money, respectively) much more easily).

So here you can see me behaving like the average Linux user, hating on Microsoft and being elitist about my distro, and I’m done ranting about M$.

I use Arch BTW.

k_rol ,

I don’t :(

the_post_of_tom_joad ,
psud ,

You can’t say that without explaining the reference. How can they be one of the lucky 10 000 when they still don’t get it?

the_post_of_tom_joad ,

hmm, looks like my link still works… clicking on any of those words should take them to the answer, which is a bit too involved for me to summarize :). if for some reason your client isn’t reading it, here’s the naked link:

wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Interjection

troyunrau ,
@troyunrau@lemmy.ca avatar

What if you’re running KDE stuff on *BSD. Or on Windows, for that matter…

(eg: I use Kate on windows as my primary text editor on my work computer…)

FangedWyvern42 ,
@FangedWyvern42@lemmy.world avatar

I feel like they intended to mention KDE neon (which is the official KDE distro).

beckerist , (edited ) to memes in It's my first day, how bad can it be?

Ben Sliney actually played himself in the movie United 93. It was his first day on the job, but he was pretty experienced, he previously ran all of New York City’s air traffic.

I saw an interview with him maybe 15 years ago (sorry I can’t find it now) but he grounded every plane in the US without approval from anyone above him on his first day as the FAA National Operation Manager (I believe he was at least 5 levels below the President).

Pretty incredible story but he knew how to react and executed the plan well.

edit: clarified some stuff and figured I should include his Wikipedia page too

kautau ,

Thanks for sharing. That’s really interesting. Also, what a way to absolutely do great on your first day. Realize there’s a massive aerospace emergency, ground all flights without approval, because approval could mean the cost of more lives. Dude deserves some praise for what he did.

MDKAOD ,

Looking back at history, we’re there other flights as attack vectors that a ground stop prevented from executing their plan? Or was a ground stop, albeit the correct course of action, pointless in preventing anything because the plan had already been executed in full?

Land_Strider ,

Even if there weren’t any planned attacks at the moment, the preventive and protective actions are usually done regardless of the temporary costs.

Without going much political, I can say that move was one of the most critical ones, maybe right after preventing nuclear warfare, because I don’t want to think how much worse the American retaliation in the last 20 years would be if there was even one more kamikaze plane, especially considering that we now measure warcrimes in magnitudes of 9/11.

lolcatnip ,

As far as I can recall, no further attacks were prevented. I disagree with calling it “pointless”, because it was the right decision given what was known at the time.

nxdefiant ,

Now imagine what it was like for the guy who took over his old job in New York on that day.

db2 , to memes in How about that?
AquaTofana ,

This fucking killed me. Holy shit. 😂 Thank you for that.

ConspiracySeries ,

These always remind me of like 30ish years ago id take my sisters barbie coloring books and do 10yr old gross and mature young boy “humors” bubbles who woulda thunk this would eventually become a staple of memes over the years. I got in shit something about Skipper making pancakes and Kens bubble saying something like “those flapjacks are always as flat as yours!” Yeah I got pretty cuffed by my grandmother. Well deserved.

PRUSSIA_x86 , to memes in Its sad. .
PP_BOY_ , (edited )
@PP_BOY_@lemmy.world avatar

Shitty patriot country music has always been a thing and there are still tons of Outlaw country artists right now. This is literally just like those “rap in the 90s vs rap today” memes that ignore the fact that trap has been a thing since the 90s and old school hip hop is having a Renaissance right now

seitanic ,
@seitanic@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

old school hip hop is having a Renaissance right now

Wait, it is? Where?

Russianranger ,

I too am curious about this. I still have some old school hip hop that I listen to. Living Legends and their songs “Never Falling Down” and “Moving at the Speed of Life”.

PP_BOY_ ,
@PP_BOY_@lemmy.world avatar

From my other comment

Pretty much all of Griselda and the dozen or so artists under their umbrella. Billy Woods & the rest of the Backwoodz Studios group are incredibly boom-bap inspired, not to mention all the “lofi” artists rn who are pretty much just old school rap. Turn off the radio and stop listening to algorithm-created Playlists and you’ll realize that there are still active artists in pretty much any subgenre of music you can think of

This is also ignoring The Alchemist and all of the artists he works with, who’s basically doing what El-P did in the early 2000s

Russianranger ,

Appreciate the recommendation man!! Thanks for sharing!

Daft_ish , (edited )

Thank God for this thread. I was floundering for new stuff for my long commute.

PP_BOY_ ,
@PP_BOY_@lemmy.world avatar

No worries, I’d personally recommend Billy Woods’s album from last year Aethiopes if you like more serious and lyrical stuff. It’s one of my favorite rap records of all time since listening to it

Daft_ish ,

God bless

S_204 ,

I’m going to see Wu Tang and Nas in a couple of weeks. Until they all die off, I’ve still got hope.

JiraiyaIsNoLyah ,

The good stuff is still out there. You just have to know where to find it. Commercial radio and things like that are driven by what the younger generation want to hear, which is fine for them but it’s just not my thing. Im into rap that has substance and lyrical content

PP_BOY_ ,
@PP_BOY_@lemmy.world avatar

Pretty much all of Griselda and the dozen or so artists under their umbrella. Billy Woods & the rest of the Backwoodz Studios group are incredibly boom-bap inspired, not to mention all the “lofi” artists rn who are pretty much just old school rap. Turn off the radio and stop listening to algorithm-created Playlists and you’ll realize that there are still active artists in pretty much any subgenre of music you can think of

JiraiyaIsNoLyah ,

Griselda is top tier boom bap👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿 The Butcher Comin!

JiraiyaIsNoLyah ,

Also wanted to add that I keep lo-fi on at my house constantly at a low volume just to set the mood

Obi ,
@Obi@sopuli.xyz avatar

Also there aren’t only American artists, listen to artists from different countries and you’ll find a lot of great stuff, some of them even rap in English. I’m biased towards the French scene myself but there’s loads.

PP_BOY_ ,
@PP_BOY_@lemmy.world avatar

That’s true. French hip hop in general is really good, Gasoline’s album A Journey into Abstract Hip-Hop is one of my favorite instrumental albums of all time

jaybone ,

I assume they mean new artists using the style?

PP_BOY_ ,
@PP_BOY_@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah, see my other comments. Plenty of new artists in the past couple years have come up with a old school/classic hip hop sound

PM_ME_FEET_PICS ,

JPEGMAFIAs newest material is clearly inspired by 80-90s hip hop. As well as 70s jive.

foggy ,

Right here holmes

And here

JiraiyaIsNoLyah ,

Check out NAS’s Kings Disease 3(my fav). The man is 50+ still putting it down. He even got Lauryn Hill on a track, smh. Dropped another album yesterday and has another one coming soon next year. Crazy

UnD3Rgr0uNDCL0wN ,

Depends how old school, too? I mean NWA, Run DMC and Public Enemy set the bar. But other artists exploded in the late 90s.

yogthos , to linux in I had a journey
@yogthos@lemmy.ml avatar

Linux and open source in general completely blow apart capitalist arguments that profit motive is necessary for innovation and technological advancement. Open source ecosystem primarily run by volunteers has produces some of the most interesting and innovative technologies that we’ve seen. The reality is that people make interesting things because they’re curious and they enjoy making stuff. Pretty much nobody makes anything interesting with profit being the primary motive.

ThereRisesARedStar ,

Also without open source the capitalist tech sector would collapse

axsyse ,

It wouldn’t necessarily collapse (it wasn’t exactly suffering before FOSS stuff “hit the shelves”, so to speak) but the gatekeeping that comes with it would certainly cause a tremendous amount of stagnation

ThereRisesARedStar ,

I work in software development. Almost all modern architecture would collapse without the open source ecosystem.

Lurkerino ,

Isnt every important server run on linux?

fox ,

Half the user-facing internet broke for a few hours when one guy withdrew a shitty one-liner piece of JavaScript (the whole leftpad thing) because someone somewhere added it as a dependency to a dependency to a dependency until it was pulled into an enormous frontend library. The internet relies more on random open source contributions than a lot of people are aware of.

CarbonScored ,
@CarbonScored@hexbear.net avatar
axsyse ,

I do too. To be clear, I did NOT mean that we could go without it today. What I meant was that if we didn’t have it to start with, things would’ve likely still developed albeit much more slowly.

I’ll also preface this by saying I definitely slightly misread everything before and so my reply was kinda crappy

ThereRisesARedStar ,

What I meant was that if we didn’t have it to start with, things would’ve likely still developed albeit much more slowly.

I dont think we will ever know, but Im not sure I agree. I dont know what the landscape would look like without relying on open source and patent theft. A lot of the stuff would probably not be financially viable.

S_H_K ,

The innovation argument is shaky at best many of the corporations innovations are brought or copied really. Is a story that became pretty common in the latest decades one guy come with a good idea some other mofo takes it and profits with it.

ConfusedLlama ,
@ConfusedLlama@kbin.social avatar

That's why it's important to use hard copyleft licenses like the GPLv3 instead of merely open-source MIT or BSD licenses wherever possible when you publish software.

S_H_K ,

Preach brother!

yogthos ,
@yogthos@lemmy.ml avatar

Indeed, the corps did a whole campaign lobbying for permissive licenses precisely so they could plunder open source work. Hard copyleft should be used for any serious project.

yogthos ,
@yogthos@lemmy.ml avatar

What’s more is that corporate driven research is necessarily biased towards whatever is profitable which is often at odds with what’s socially useful. For example, it’s more profitable to research drugs that help maintain disease and can be sold over a long time than drugs that cure it. Profit motive here ends up being completely at odds with what’s beneficial for people who get sick.

And of course, any research that doesn’t have a clear path towards monetization isn’t going to be pursued. This is precisely why pretty much all fundamental research comes out of the public sector.

FaeDrifter ,

capitalist arguments that profit motive is necessary for innovation and technological advancement

I don’t know who is arguing this because it’s incredibly stupid. The greatest scientific minds of history, the mathematicians, the physicists, the inventors, were not capitalists, they’re people with passion for their work.

If we move to a society that guarantees basic human needs and good education, we’re only going to have more scientists and engineers that progress technology even faster.

agent_flounder ,
@agent_flounder@lemmy.one avatar

And while we are at it… novelists, poets, painters, musicians, philosophers, …

chaorace ,
@chaorace@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Tragically, however, it may spell the end of the sandwich artist.

Thorned_Rose , (edited )
@Thorned_Rose@kbin.social avatar

Capitalists argue this because it gives them the appearance of a moral high ground.

Enshittification shows how untrue this - capitalism by its very nature will always devolve into worse and worse offerings because it's reliant on squeezing out ever more profit.

Capitalism will only ever puh out the bare minimum of technological advancement. And keeping people in indentured labour (aka employees) to the capitalist system so that they either have no time to come up with innovations themselves or they own the intellectual property of any indentured workers means that the overwhelming majority of innovation is monopolised by capitalism too. Which also contributes to the appearance of pushing advancement.

Auli ,

This is so wrong. It’s not volunteers writing this code it is people employed by companies who are paid to write this code. You do know people have to eat.

polskilumalo ,
@polskilumalo@lemmygrad.ml avatar

Wait. So where are my FOSS-bucks?

yogthos ,
@yogthos@lemmy.ml avatar

Open source has existed long before companies started getting involved with it. Meanwhile, people having to eat has nothing to do with the argument being made which is that capitalism and profit motive are not required for creativity and technological progress.

schnurrito ,

This is true to some extent, but the best, most successful open source software is nowadays to a large extent made by for-profit businesses developing it for their own use but sharing it with the world.

There is a strong correlation between “is this kind of software mainly used by businesses vs. individuals” and “does this kind of software tend to be open source”. Hardly anyone uses proprietary version control or web server software anymore. But (other extreme) in the area of video games, nearly all of them are still proprietary and probably will be for a long time. Software such as web browsers or office suites sits somewhere in between, both kinds exist there.

yogthos ,
@yogthos@lemmy.ml avatar

Biggest and most popular projects are attractive to companies as well as individuals for the same reasons. However, the original point was that companies are not needed for open source to exist or for innovation to happen.

zabadoh ,

I disagree somewhat.

A lot of high tech development comes with a greed motive, e.g. IPO, or getting bought out by a large company seeking to enter the space, e.g. Google buying Android, or Facebook buying Instagram and Oculus.

And conversely, a lot of open source software are copies of commercially successful products, albeit they only become widely adopted after the originals have entered the enshittified phase of their life.

Is there a Lemmy without Reddit? Is there a Mastodon without Twitter? Is there LibreOffice without Microsoft Office and decades of commercial word processors and spreadsheets before that? Or OpenOffice becoming enshittified for that matter? Is there qBittorrent without uTorrent enshittified? Is there postgreSQL without IBM’s DB2?

The exception that I can see is social media and networked services that require active network and server resources, like Facebook YouTube, or even Dropbox and Evernote.

Okay, The WELL is still around and is arguably the granddaddy of all online services, and has avoided enshittification, but it isn’t really open source.

yogthos ,
@yogthos@lemmy.ml avatar

The idea that these things wouldn’t exist without commercial analogs is silly. You do realize that things like BBS boards and IRC existed long before commercial social media platforms right? In fact, we might’ve seen things like social media evolve in completely different directions if not for commercial platforms setting standards based on attracting clicks, and monetizing users.

robot_dog_with_gun ,

all the for profit things we use are worse because they are for profit.

most of the time a site or service UI is made worse it’s because AB testing found the worse UI wastes user’s time and the metrics read that as engagement.

yogthos ,
@yogthos@lemmy.ml avatar

Exactly, most of the bloat on commercial sites isn’t there for the benefit of the user, but rather in order to monetize them. It’s ads, trackers, metrics, and all the other garbage that you don’t actually want.

kittenzrulz123 , to linux_gaming in Epic Games CEO Tim Sweeney was asked by Verge why there is no support for the Steam Deck for Fortnite

Absolute BS, all they have to do is enable proton support and people will go out of their way to play it. Tim Sweeney is simply being a slimy jackass.

DacoTaco ,
@DacoTaco@lemmy.world avatar

When isnt he?

Empricorn ,

I imagine it’s like breathing for him…

DarthBueller ,

Tim Sweeney is awesome. He’s one of the biggest conservation donors in my state and is personally responsible for permanently saving over 50,000 acres of land from development, protecting crucial habitat in a rapidly developing state, allowing public trail and nature preserves to get created. He lives in a normal house and drives a normal car and hikes the land he preserves when he’s not working. He’s a billionaire that lives a modest life, doesn’t mess with politics, and a true philanthropist. He doesn’t give to get press. The few articles out there about his philanthropy are because reporters stumble across it when reporting on whatever new nature preserve is opening in their area.

He might have some business practices that are problematic but are endemic to the industry.

mactan ,

philanthropy is the industry of laundering money and reputations

DarthBueller , (edited )

You sound like someone who doesn’t know much about philanthropy and falls prey to confirmation bias as much as anyone. The fact that you put money laundering ahead of tax-write offs is telling. He’s not a mexican drug cartel buying US real estate.

Like I said, he’s a stealth philanthropist to the degree that it does next to nothing to burnish his reputation. The only reason I know about it is because I’m in land conservation. He doesn’t seek out any press attention at all, and the limited number of news articles about his donations are a testament to that. I am not saying that Epic business practices don’t have issues that are common between his competitors, but I am saying that he himself is not a slimeball. His personality is about as far as you can get from a psychopathic self-enriching tech bro. Basically he hit the jackpot with Unreal, then fortnite.

heyoni ,

Thanks for the insight. It’s quite tiring to watch human beings distilled into binary good or evil based on something as innocuous as adding proton support to a game…

stevehobbes ,

Would love some sources!

SmoothIsFast ,
demonsword ,
@demonsword@lemmy.world avatar

hey look, a billionaire bootlicker, what are the odds

DarthBueller ,

No, just defending someone that I know for a fact is a genuinely decent human being. He doesn’t give a shit about burnishing his reputation through the philanthropy he does. He does it because he hates seeing billionaire mansions on mountaintops as much as anyone who isn’t a fuck, because he wants everyone to have natural places to enjoy in the future. If you can’t see the difference between someone like Sweeney and someone like Musk, DeVoss, etc., that’s on you. He’s not trying to make the world worse for everyone.

Do I have issues with the concentration of wealth and growing inequality in the US? Yes. If you gave me a list of billionaires, where I had to rank them in terms of their benefit to the world vs. negative impact to the world, would I put him high in benefit and low in negative impact? Yes. He’s not spouting antisemitic nonsense, or trying to influence politics, or ruin education, or poison the minds of the American public. He’s just running his business, treating his employees well, and preserving land. So if you want to call me a bootlicker for points, fine. Given the world we live in, I’d rather have our billionaires be like Sweeney instead of Musk or DeVoss.

jerkface ,
@jerkface@lemmy.ca avatar

billionaire

genuinely decent human being

pick one

heyoni ,

Hey look everyone, this guy only sees black or white!

demonsword ,
@demonsword@lemmy.world avatar

not true, I can see plenty shades of gray too

MentalEdge ,
@MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz avatar

Doing good with one hand doesn’t excuse using the other to smother FOSS progress. No matter how humble you are materially, or reasonable in local policy, that doesn’t mean he is right in the many bullshit stances he’s dug himself into where the games industry is concerned. He does have a point in some places, but holy shit is it hard to take him seriously when half the shit he gripes about other companies doing, Epic does too. And that’s before we talk about the scummy BS only Epic does.

binomialchicken ,

Epic has donated a sizable amount to fund Godot Engine, and other FOSS projects. UE4 and UE5 can both be built from source to run on Linux natively. They are not smothering FOSS or Linux.

Outtatime ,
@Outtatime@sh.itjust.works avatar

Shhh. Tim said something the Internet disagrees with so we all have dog pile on him.

prole ,

You can criticize bad actions even when they’re done by generally “good” people, believe it or not.

DarthBueller ,

I specifically took issue with him being called a slimeball. He’s not a slimeball. Musk? Slimeball. DeVoss? Slimeball. Sweeney? Not a slimeball.

frozen ,
@frozen@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz avatar

You can call someone a slimeball about something specific if they are a slimeball specifically about that thing, and Sweeny has proven repeatedly to be slimy in regards to Linux support.

I’m sure he’s a great guy in other ways, but when the topic is specifically about scumbag corpo practices, calling him a slimebag isn’t inaccurate.

kittenzrulz123 ,
bjoern_tantau , to memes in Where is Kevin?
@bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de avatar

I love how this is so much more triggering than just the text implies. 4:3 screen, christmas lights that would kill every ounce of contrast in the picture, one wrong move and the pizza gets either wool stuck on it or it falls to the ground. Not to mention that it’s too far away to actually eat.

Grayox OP ,
@Grayox@lemmy.ml avatar
tilcica ,

could’ve gone even worse with the screen. 1:1 and stretch to fit instead of crop to fit xD

HurlingDurling ,

That’s without the fact that Peperoni grease can seep through the cardboard and into the white sheets.

30p87 ,

Never had this happen, how much oil is on/in your pizzas lol

tocopherol ,
@tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Proper pizza is greasy as fuck, if you haven’t had pizza dripping with grease I am worried for your range of pizza experiences.

30p87 ,

It depends on the toppings used and how it was prepared.
Frozen pizza reheated will apparently be much more greasy than what I’m used to, either freshly made or self made, the latter containing basically no oil/fat that could be greasy.
Also, you’re probably used to tons of cheese and pepperoni, while I often prefer just a little bit of pepperoni, and much more ham, bacon, jalapenos and just enough cheese to not see everything fully.
And yes, pizza from many restaurants are much more greasy than self made ones, but not greasy enough to actually get through carton designed to isolate and contain anything inside.

tocopherol ,
@tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

That’s true, I shouldn’t imply that pizza can’t be great without being so greasy hah, it depends on the style. I usually only have just cheese and sauce, the area I’m at is known for it’s local pizza and it is usually very greasy, probably because they use quite a hefty amount of cheese, but it’s excellent.

makyo ,

Yeah I knew instantly this was created by an experienced troll

fluxion ,

Table/chair slightly blocking screen, and I suspect there is some sort of fuckery going on with how that pizza is cut but I’m can’t tell because my hands are literally shaking at this point

Ranvier ,

The size of the pieces is uneven, don’t look!

stebo02 ,
@stebo02@sopuli.xyz avatar

also this person apparently has 4 feet. how could you miss that?!

RaoulDook ,

Space Wizards’ average fan is that kind of mutant

azurekevin , (edited )
@azurekevin@lemmy.world avatar

If that’s supposed to be a projected image, then it should be washed out af with the room being so lit up. The darkest colors should only be about as dark as the white wall behind it.

bitwolf ,

There’s also the bare pizza box in the stark white comforter. You know that cardboard isn’t going to keep all that pepperoni pizza oil in for very long.

HMH , to worldnews in Palestine-Israel Crisis Megathread
@HMH@lemmy.ml avatar

Some facts about the Gaza Strip:

  • Population: ~2.3 Million
  • Area: 365 km² (141 sq mi)
    • 41 km (25 mi) long, from 6 to 12 km (3.7 to 7.5 mi) wide
  • Population density: ~6300/km² 1

Gaza is very densely populated. In Gaza live as many people as in Houston. But Houston has an area of 1658.6 km² (640.4 sq mi). Thus Gaza has nearly five times the population density of Houston. New York City is the only city in the US with a population of more than a million and a higher population density than Gaza. 2The tallest building in Palestine stands at 76.1 m (255 ft). 3

A little less than half of the population of Gaza is made up of children. 4

There are only three (“legal”) ways in and out of Gaza:

  • Rafah Crossing into Egypt in the south
  • Kerem Shalom Crossing into Israel in the south
  • Erez Crossing into Israel in the north

Gaza has a very small port. It can only be used by small fisher boats. 5

Israel built a wall and fences around Gaza. 6

yukichigai , to memes in Defediverse
@yukichigai@kbin.social avatar

Yes, let's enter discussion with the literal Nazis so we can try to understand them. There might be nuance to their calls for mass genocide.

Fuck off OP.

Norgur ,

HiTlEr WaSn'T aLl BaD

gullible ,

Hitler wasn’t all bad. After all, he did kill Hitler.

ZILtoid1991 ,
@ZILtoid1991@kbin.social avatar

Only a good Hitler with a gun can stop a bad Hitler doing genocide.

DragonTypeWyvern ,

Well, the Red Army did that.

meldroc ,

Just ignore the genocides perpetuated by the Soviets…

DragonTypeWyvern ,

If you want to ignore that for some reason you can, but the point is it wasn’t Hitler that stopped Hitler from commiting genocide. It was losing the war.

scbasteve7 ,

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  • yukichigai ,
    @yukichigai@kbin.social avatar
    jarfil ,

    He didn’t even want to kill all those people, he only wanted to exploit them and then deport everyone to Africa… but the Allies wouldn’t let him conquer enough Africa for all of them, so what was he to do? Killing then wasn’t even his idea, it was Reinhardt’s! He just signed it…

    (do I put an /s? it’s historically correct…)

    Quacksalber ,

    There is a block button. You don’t have to scream for daddy Admin every time someone says something stupid. I, for one, want to call them out, not keep everyone from my instance from interacting with them.

    Foggyfroggy ,

    You forgot the “except for Nazis” part. No one wants more nazis except nazis and they can fuck off.

    Draedron ,

    You are advocating for nazis. Fuck off.

    yukichigai ,
    @yukichigai@kbin.social avatar

    Yes, let's give the Nazis a platform to spew their bullshit. It's entirely so we can laugh at them and completely could not possibly lead to them continuing to propagate their message of hate. /s

    Fuck off. Fuck off as far as anyone has ever fucked off before, then dream the impossible dream and fuck off even further.

    Quacksalber , (edited )

    I don’t even trust you to properly define what a nazi is. People are calling Hexbar users Nazis, they are calling Lemmygrad users Nazis, and they call the lemmy.ml admins Nazis as well. Just because you say they are nazis doesn’t mean I agree with you.

    Norgur ,

    Besides: De-Federating is a mistake. That'll lead to them reinforcing their bullshit unchallenged inside of their echo chambers and draw in everyone who comes by and stays long enough. That's exactly what strengthens the AFD in Germany or certain religious groups in the US. The only chance you have against them is engaging them and hack off little chips of their construct of lies and hatred until it hopefully collapses.

    De-federating so you don't see them and then pretending that solves anything is like throwing a blanket on a unexploded bomb that has slammed into your bedroom: You can pretend it's not there all your want, until one day where the cover is being lifted rather radically.

    yukichigai ,
    @yukichigai@kbin.social avatar

    On the contrary, deplatforming works very well. In the wake of Reddit banning FatPeopleHate and CoonTown the Georgia Institute of Technology did a study on walling off and removing "safe spaces" for bigots:

    Working from over 100M Reddit posts and comments, we generate hate speech lexicons to examine variations in hate speech usage via causal inference methods. We find that the ban worked for Reddit.

    More accounts than expected discontinued using the site; those that stayed drastically decreased their hate speech usage—by at least 80%. Though many subreddits saw an influx of r/fatpeoplehate and r/CoonTown “migrants,” those subreddits saw no significant changes in hate speech usage.

    In other words, other subreddits did not inherit the problem.

    Banning an entire bigoted instance from yours, i.e. defederating, will accomplish the goal of reducing and removing bigoted behavior from your instance.

    Norgur ,

    Yes, it worked for the platform. It didn't make the bigots go away. They just withdrew. No one actually changed their mind by being banned. They will just move to ever smaller platforms until they land on a platform where they are the only crowd and there they will keep reinforcing each other, leading to more radicalization.

    That's exactly what I said: defederating will make the problem invisible to you, but the hateful bigots will still exist.

    yukichigai ,
    @yukichigai@kbin.social avatar

    Why is it every instance admin's responsibility to fix bigots? What is it about running a Lemmy instance that obligates people to actively work to find the one glimmer of redeeming quality in these human septic tanks? Why should the targets of their hatred have to do all the work to avoid being victimized?

    Well it isn't, nothing does, and they shouldn't. Bigots are the ones in the wrong here, and kicking them out works plenty well. Bigots spread by being given platforms. Take away even one of those and it lessens the spread.

    "We shouldn't have echo chambers" is just propaganda from bigots who were upset that their soapboxes got taken away. Stop falling for it.

    kmkz_ninja ,

    I’m tired of people thinking that racists and bigots and morons deserve a warm shoulder to vent to. It isn’t anyone’s responsibility to make someone be something they aren’t, and it’s really suspicious anytime someone tells you that you should be nice, or hear out, or let join people that hold disgusting views.

    Norgur ,

    I'm not saying anything of the sort.

    ieatpillowtags ,

    “ The only chance you have against them is engaging them and hack off little chips of their construct of lies and hatred until it hopefully collapses.”

    That’s exactly what you’re saying.

    kmkz_ninja ,

    I didn’t make the time, but I appreciate you illustrating the point I was making.

    pinkdrunkenelephants ,

    Grow the fuck up and accept the fact you’re not wanted. Instance admins are allowed to associate with who they want. You are not owed anyone else’s time and attention simply because you exist.

    Also, has anybody reported this guy yet?

    Norgur ,

    What besides you reading assumptions into what I'm saying makes you think I'm... Whatever you seem to think I am?

    ieatpillowtags ,

    A tankie. We think you are a tankie.

    Norgur ,

    A... What now?

    Doesn't matter. What does matter is the weird line if reasoning "you suggest approaching the problem of dealing with people that harm society differently than I would have done, so you must be one of 'them'"

    Besides, you read some bullshit into whatever you wanted because you seem to deem it impossible that someone who has different ideas from your's is not automatically a dog whistling bigot in disguise.

    Look at my post history and tell me what would back your "talkie" theory up. Why would I need all the hidden meanings and secret agendas I'm supposed to have?

    Discussions are getting nowhere when everyone is just assuming and insinuating the shit out if everyone else instead of talking about the stuff that was said at face value.

    Feathercrown ,

    They will become more radical, but they will be prevented from radicalizing others. When normal people encounter the now hyper-radicalized members of the deplatformed groups, they will tend to write them off as the crazed radicals that they are.

    Convince those who you can. Exile those who are too far gone. Doing the opposite in either instance is harmful.

    MBM ,

    Exploding-heads no longer exists because they got defederated by everyone

    yukichigai ,
    @yukichigai@kbin.social avatar

    What, is it only Nazism if it's from the Reichstag region of WWII Germany, and otherwise it's just Sparkling Fascism?

    Maybe ask yourself why it is that when someone explicitly denounces Nazis you feel personally offended.

    Norgur ,

    The Reichstag Region of WWII Germany, eh?

    Like...from the Brandenburger Tor then?
    I get what you are trying to say but to a German this is unnecessarily reductive gobbledygook.

    yukichigai ,
    @yukichigai@kbin.social avatar

    this is unnecessarily reductive gobbledygook

    SelfAwareWolves material right here.

    Norgur ,

    Wait... What? So I'm a Nazi or something who didn't realize what they are because I told you that "the Reichstag region" is an ignorant thing to say when it comes to Nazis since the building itself is a sign of democracy and still seat of the German parliament? It burning was literally used by the Nazis to reduce democratic powers in Germany. You used the word because you happen to know it and it sounds all harsh and German to you.

    IHeartBadCode ,
    @IHeartBadCode@kbin.social avatar

    every time someone says something stupid

    Here's a philosophical topic called emergence. Every "one" thing said by an idiot is one thing, but when pretty much every other comment becomes some asshole saying ignorant things it suddenly is something entirely different.

    I saw the very early Internet (mid-80s) and what happened when you gave people benefit of the doubt. There's been no demonstration that anyone has changed. So fuck those stupid assholes, the Internet is vast they can go carve out their own thing. That's the nice thing, they have every tool to make their own LOLverse. But they don't because they don't want to suck each other's dick, they want to be an ass to everyone else. Just as it was the case with talk.*

    Same as it was, same as it ever will be. I for one am glad this time around people are being proactive. It shows that some have actually learned something.

    Enkrod ,
    @Enkrod@feddit.de avatar

    I’ve been successfully reporting troll-accounts and got them banned, I’ve blocked entire communities (mostly some niche-nsfw communities, so they don’t turn up in my local feed on my lemmynsfw.com-account). And I’ve found most community-moderators reeeeeeaaaaally don’t like fascists on their turf and if you see something and report something, most will get the boot.

    This meme presents a false choice, defederation is not the only sane reason to choose (because understanding and/or engaging nazis is decidedly not sane).

    Once an entire instance is gone though… defederate like there’s no tomorrow.

    Fried_out_Kombi ,
    @Fried_out_Kombi@lemmy.world avatar

    It’s funny how people always use play it like “oh, it’s just differing opinions” when what they’re actually defending is indefensible malarkey like nazis and tankies. They know if they made a meme saying we should “try to understand” nazis and tankies, they’d be downvoted to oblivion. And so they hide behind a shield of “differing opinions”.

    These cretins have a right to post nazi and tankie shit on their own instances – them’s the beauty of the fediverse. But I also have a right to not want hate speech, genocide denial, and Hitler/Stalin/Mao simps polluting my feed. It’s not mere “differing opinions” when one person’s opinion is “Holodomor didn’t happen, and if it did, the Ukrainians deserved it” or “Holocaust didn’t happen, and if it did, the Jews deserved it” or whatever apologia they wanna peddle.

    Gormadt ,
    @Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

    Preaching facts right here friend

    I bloody hate fascist

    yukichigai ,
    @yukichigai@kbin.social avatar

    It’s funny how people always use play it like “oh, it’s just differing opinions” when what they’re actually defending is indefensible malarkey like nazis and tankies. They know if they made a meme saying we should “try to understand” nazis and tankies, they’d be downvoted to oblivion. And so they hide behind a shield of “differing opinions”.

    There's an actual term for this: Motte and Bailey. One of many hallmarks of disingenuous shitbirds.

    ImmortanStalin ,

    Another horseshoe theory take… Last I checked the “tankies” saved everyone from the Nazis. Let’s equate genocidal/colonial violence to defend capital, with the efforts to establish socialism. LOL

    Fried_out_Kombi ,
    @Fried_out_Kombi@lemmy.world avatar

    Tankies != communists

    Tankies are the insufferable fascists who take on a red aesthetic. There are plenty of great leftists, commies, and progressives who don’t deny the Uyghur genocide or Holodomor or simp for Russia and the CCP. I’m not a communist myself (nor am I a capitalist for that matter), but I’ve got nothing against non-tankie communists aside from economic disagreements. Tankies I do have issue with, as should anyone who gives a rat’s ass about the working class and basic human rights.

    Also, lol at that Stalin profile pic. Literally fetishizing a genocidal dictator who betrayed the working class and murdered millions of innocents.

    rjs001 ,
    @rjs001@lemmygrad.ml avatar

    Would you mind giving me some names of people who belive in this so-called “genocide” of the Uyghurs (who the rest of China has helped lift up as with the other groups in reality)who are communists?

    scbasteve7 ,

    Oppressive nations tend to have powerful armies.

    Nobody is defuting that the USSR fought off the Nazis and had the biggest hand in their destruction.

    But just because they fought a great evil, doesnt mean they were " the good guys". It just means they fought a great evil.

    Fried_out_Kombi ,
    @Fried_out_Kombi@lemmy.world avatar

    But just because they fought a great evil, doesnt mean they were " the good guys". It just means they fought a great evil.

    Exactly! You can’t just divide the world into “fought against the Nazis” and “didn’t fight against the Nazis” and use that as your entire basis of morality. By that same logic, America is the Good Guys™ and has absolutely zero neo-Nazi problems because they destroyed Imperial Japan and fought against the Nazis, right?

    It’s completely possible to fight against the Nazis and still be evil yourself (cough cough Stalin), or the reverse where the Finns technically cooperated with the Nazis, but only because the USSR was literally doing a colonialism against Finland and the Nazis happened to be the only ones fighting the USSR at the time.

    Morality and history are not black and white, despite these lemmygrad users’ naked attempts to coerce them into being such.

    Tar_alcaran ,

    “Better than Hitler” is really, REALLY not a great flex

    Someonelol ,

    Careful where you speak such truths friend, the Pronoun Patrol would’ve thrown you to the gulags if it was in their instance.

    ieatpillowtags ,

    Found the tankie

    wombatula , (edited )

    Yes the angry internet trolls on Hexbear saved everyone from the Nazis, thank you Hexbear for winning WW2 for the world what would we ever do without them.

    You realize that to someone that isn’t a terminally online political extremist you sound like those dumb Americans that try and claim the moon landing as their own accomplishment right? Your pasty ass has nothing to do with the brave soldiers that fought the Nazis, and I doubt those badasses would think much of some kid screaming into a computer about why liberals are bad.

    meldroc ,

    Oh look, tankie horseshit. How many millions died as a result of “efforts to establish socialism”? So why don’t you shove that disingenuous bullshit up your ass.

    ImmortanStalin ,
    Someonelol ,

    Last I checked the “tankies” signed a non-aggression pact with the Nazis and only became a reluctant ally because they were betrayed.

    ImmortanStalin ,
    Someonelol ,

    I can’t read the first link as it’s behind a paywall. The second link talked about how Roosevelt tried to establish cordial relations with the Soviet Union but was hampered by their refusal to acknowledge debts owed by the Tsarist government, refusal to stop spreading propaganda within the US, and the killing of Leningrad Communist party boss Sergey Kirov which " launched the first of the “Great Purges” that led to the death or imprisonment of millions of Soviet citizens as the Stalinist regime liquidated any potential critics of the government. The wide scope and public nature of the purges horrified both American diplomatic personnel stationed in the Soviet Union, and the world at large."

    Gee I wonder why the USSR had such a tough go at getting allies…

    UraniumBlazer ,

    Right… So thinking that the Tzar’s invasion of Ukraine is unjustified is Nazi shit. Thinking that the Holodomor was a genocide is Nazi shit. Cuz that’s what ur tankie buddies called me. This is what OP was referencing to.

    yukichigai ,
    @yukichigai@kbin.social avatar

    My dude, just today we had Neo-Nazis berating people outside Disney World about the supremacy of the white race and the need to eliminate all LGBTQ people. "Literal Nazi" isn't some coded terminology that takes a PhD in Cryptography to decipher. There are no hidden meanings here.

    WolfhunterGer , to assholedesign in Google deleted an open source app I love (install from F-Droid) for being "Fake"

    KDE Connect is also available through Google Play and most likely signed with a different key as the F-Droid Version. Since Play Protect checks the App signatures, it probably detected this discrepancy and determined the App was fake. Not really an Assholedesign as this is a valid concern if a normal user downloads an app from the internet.

    gressen ,

    On the other hand it’s a valid case to have the app installed by means other than the play store. I can’t imagine they have found this discrepancy in signatures for the first time.

    Jajcus ,

    Probably most other apps are correctly signed with the same certificate on both sites.

    leinardi ,

    No they are not: F-Droid builds a signs the apps independently. Source: I have apps on both stores.

    JoeyJoeJoeJr ,

    You can actually sign the F-Droid app yourself, if you use reproducible builds.

    There’s reasonable odds the signatures still won’t match though, because Google requires App Bundles now, and then they build and sign the APK, rather than allowing the developer to build and sign their own APK.

    Technically you can use the same key (see “Best Practices” of this page), but it’s kind of shady, and requires giving your private key to Google.

    deweydecibel ,

    It could just ask before removing shit. Remove the permissions, freeze the app, prompt the user to confirm they meant to install it from somewhere other than the playstore. Hell, since it can detect F-Droid is installed, maybe use some context clues and ask the user to confirm this app was installed from there?

    More importantly, can you tell it to ignore certain apps? I don’t know, I’ve had Play Protect turned off forever. If not, that’s absolutely asshole design.

    glibg10b ,

    More importantly, can you tell it to ignore certain apps?

    Yes, but it stops ignoring them after a while

    HelloHotel ,
    @HelloHotel@lemmy.world avatar

    and you come back to your phone and its uninstalled again, scummy! uninstalling also REMOVES the user’s data they stored in the app. turn off Play Protect!

    Nepenthe , to lemmyshitpost in Do not.
    @Nepenthe@kbin.social avatar

    But the boxes were taken to the dumpster, yes? With time saved, even? Someone in a managerial position would rather hire, train, and pay a devoted garbage person instead of three adorably unpaid raccoons?

    MissJinx ,
    @MissJinx@lemmy.world avatar

    I see no problems

    DragonTypeWyvern ,

    Until the raccoons unionize and demand healthcare coverage instead of just table scraps.

    blackluster117 ,
    @blackluster117@possumpat.io avatar

    20XX: The Raccoon Rebellions reach their peak. Multiple systems are in turmoil as the conflict rages. New fronts emerge everyday as guerilla factions splinter. Bodies litter the streets like piles of… trash. There is no end in sight.

    MissJinx ,
    @MissJinx@lemmy.world avatar

    Look at you anxiety driven humans. You don’t know the racoons goals and dreams, maybe all they want is a huge pile of trash in the midle of the city. We should hear their demands first

    ICastFist ,
    @ICastFist@programming.dev avatar

    Pretty sure 20XX is full of robots and randomly generated stages 🤔

    Maybe it’s the raccoons that make the robots?

    SwallowsDick ,

    Train another raccoon to bust unions

    DragonTypeWyvern ,

    Impossible, raccoon class consciousness is too strong.

    LemmysMum ,

    Raccoons aren’t a protected class and I will continue to exploit their lack of rights u til such time as they garner enough support to be represented in the government and change the laws.

    DragonTypeWyvern ,

    AHAB - raccoons, definitely

    SnipingNinja ,

    AHAB?

    dym_sh ,
    @dym_sh@lemmy.world avatar

    (are bastards)

    SnipingNinja ,

    Aah, obviously

    Honytawk ,

    The captain trying to capture the white whale

    WhiskyTangoFoxtrot ,

    He was a real bastard.

    GreenPlasticSushiGrass ,

    Darcy the human wants healthcare. Trained trash pandas want apples. Why are we even discussing this?

    ICastFist ,
    @ICastFist@programming.dev avatar

    The manager is clearly 3 raccoons in a trenchcoat who don’t want competition

    Kofu , to memes in A moment of appreciation for a man who is undoubtedly the world's most successful promoter of Lemmy and the fediverse
    @Kofu@lemmy.ml avatar

    Oh hey, it’s cunt face.

    rivr ,
    @rivr@lemmy.world avatar

    less attractive, more punchable bad luck brian

    nilloc ,

    Bad idea Brian.

    Xero ,
    @Xero@infosec.pub avatar

    Not as attractive as a cunt or an asshole, he’s a dickface.

    miss_brainfart ,
    @miss_brainfart@lemmy.ml avatar

    Idk, dicks can be pretty hot. A hairy ballsack, now that’s almost universally seen as not attractive

    Xero ,
    @Xero@infosec.pub avatar

    As a lifelong dick owner I tend to disagree. But to each their own.

    miss_brainfart ,
    @miss_brainfart@lemmy.ml avatar

    Oh I respect that, I can see why someone wouldn’t like them.

    Enzy ,

    Please do not insult my ballsack like that.

    ScrollinMyDayAway , (edited ) to mildlyinfuriating in The Spotify Car Thing cost $100, but I can't use it anymore.

    I cancelled my paid Spotify account because I can’t get them to stop fucking recommending Joe Rogan to me.

    JudahBenHur ,

    I’m moments away from canceling. Splash screens of some bullshit podcast or something I don’t want to see. Getting fed up.

    uis ,
    @uis@lemmy.world avatar

    Get on board, sail the seas

    sol87 ,

    Search for Github SpotDL And Navidrome

    No need to sail them seas, but maybe still use a vpn, just on case. Fun fact i heard from a friend of a friend: Youtube starts rate limiting after 50,000 audio-only video downloads, until you have a new IP.

    yaaaaayPancakes ,

    I am skeptical of the quality of audio on YouTube. And of full album tracks running together properly.

    Am I wrong?

    SexualPolytope ,
    @SexualPolytope@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

    I’ve also noticed that sometimes it downloads the wrong versions of songs. While my Spotify playlist has the album version of a song, it might sometimes download a live performance audio or a reprise version.

    SCB ,

    It’s free. You’re getting “free” quality. Actual quality anything costs money or requires theft.

    Aopen ,
    @Aopen@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

    Im not audiophile so I scrape audio with newpipe. Downloaded and stream quality are indistinguishably satisfactory.

    JudahBenHur ,

    ive donated to slsk. I like the song radio and album radio features of spotify, found one of my favorite bands that way

    dingus ,

    I have hundreds upon hundreds of songs in my Spotify music library. Downloading them one by one sounds like hell. And then I wouldn’t be discovering new music either.

    _pete_ ,

    If you want to move them elsewhere(or even just get a csv export of them) there are apps for that.

    freeyourmusic.com will let you pay a one time fee to do it to as many services as you want, it’s a bit slow but it’ll get there eventually.

    seitanic ,
    @seitanic@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

    Renting music sounds like hell to me. If the songs can’t exist as files on my computer (Opus, Ogg, MP3, etc.) then I’m out.

    histic ,

    leave em sail the seas or tidal for the same price you get better audio so win win in my book either way

    JudahBenHur ,

    plus you’re supporting jigga

    PorkTaco ,

    Really? Where out of curiosity? I’ve never experienced that.

    ScrollinMyDayAway ,

    On PC. Keep (kept) it in a separate window while working.

    PurplePropagule ,

    Never had issues with that either tbh. I guess the algo just picked up on something for you. That’s annoying.

    ScrollinMyDayAway ,

    White guy late 50’s? What algo would ever target me?

    isVeryLoud ,

    Allegedly, YouTube Music is about to shove podcasts in our faces with a soon to come update.

    I’m leaving YTM if they do that. I’ll go back to ☠️⚓⛵ and using locally available music.

    PRUSSIA_x86 ,

    If you have an android, just download blackplayer and use a YT link to mp3 site to get whatever music you want.

    bluemite ,

    Time to give Napster a shot!

    massacre ,

    Is Limewire still a thing?

    ChickenLadyLovesLife ,

    I’m gonna go pull my fucking LPs out of the attic.

    kautau ,

    Not as the software it was, but frostwire is still kicking

    EDIT: correction, frostwire is now a BitTorrent client

    Looks like there are still Gnutella clients out there though

    gtk-gnutella.sourceforge.io

    Psythik ,

    No but direct downloads are all the rage. Here are my two favorite sites for free music. Every track is available in either 320k MP3, or FLAC lossless. So they’re even better than Limewire ever was:

    slavart.gamesdrive.net/tracks

    free-mp3-download.net (FYI don’t use punctuation in your queries or it breaks the search on this one)

    PickTheStick ,

    If you want a virus and to not be able to download anything, sure. fmhy.net/unsafesites#software--apps

    Maslo ,

    You want SoulSeek. I swear it’s not a dating app

    greavous ,

    Don’t think so. Soulseek on the other hand…

    ScrollinMyDayAway ,

    lol

    bluemite ,

    It’s kind of a joke, but Napster is actually trying to get back into it. They hired the guy in charge of music from Roblox to be CEO

    I_Has_A_Hat ,

    I’ve been pretty happy with YouTube music. I got legacied in due to Google Music shutting down and thought I would hate it, but I’ve had zero complaints. Plus, it comes with free YouTube Premium, so I haven’t seen an ad in years.

    Wogi ,

    I have so many complaints, Google Play music was fine. It did exactly what I wanted it to.

    YouTube music is like an alien looked at that app, and tried to recreate it exclusively by smashing it’s forehead against a keyboard until an app that started most of the time came out.

    BeMoreCareful ,

    It’s definitely not Google play music, but I treat it a bit like Pandora twenty years ago and it’s ok for that.

    zourn ,
    @zourn@lemmy.world avatar

    I would actually argue that Google Play Music was the best music streaming app that I’ve used. It was great being able to upload music from CDs of small local bands and have it right in there with the other streaming music.

    Just today I had a hankering to listen to a specific song through my android auto, and instead of just being able to verbally ask the unit for that song, or even being able to search through the atrocity that is the YouTube Music interface on my head unit, I had to pull over, pull out my phone, search for the band, then click the uploads tab (because uploaded music does not show with the regular search results) and then click the song to get it to play.

    Lethtor ,

    It’s not optimal, and I would like for uploaded music to just show up in the regular search, but there is a top navigation bar where you can just switch between where to search (uploads being one of the options). Also YTM has the upside of showing YouTube uploads as well, I could always find obscure bonus EPs that only came with the physical CD because someone uploaded it, which is really handy

    RBWells ,

    Yes and the glorious “playing near you” feature of Play Music. That made the best recommendations for local shows, and I mean local, within a few miles, not just bands I’d listened to but always relevant and often small shows! That feature, I found several new bands I liked that way and good live music. YouTube has nothing like that. Also interface not as intuitive, more cluttered. My kids like it better because they do like having the videos available, but as I do not give a fuck about that but do like live music this is still not as good as the Play Music.

    waterbogan ,

    YouTube music is like an alien looked at that app, and tried to recreate it exclusively by smashing it’s forehead against a keyboard until an app that started most of the time came out.

    You think they that much care and attention into the app?

    But seriously, yeah, I had pretty much the same experience -Google Play Music just worked beautifully, whereas YouTube Music was a steaming turd on Android. I gave up after six months and two phones and went to Deezer, never looked back

    goferking0 ,

    I’m still pissed ytm no longer allowed me to view playlist songs like it would in gpm

    Sharkwellington ,

    I would say the same myself. They don’t do the worst job for music discovery either which is important to me. Amazon Music drove me nuts constantly recommending Cage the Elephant and other well-known (profitable) artists instead of obscure music similar to my tastes.

    Mr_Blott ,

    The algorithm on YT music is vastly superior to Spotify for new discoveries

    Oh, you used to listen to Metallica back in the day?

    YT music - Here, you’d probably like Shaka Ponk, Gin Wigmore and Royal Blood

    Spotify - hAvE YoU hEarD of A bANd cAllEd KiSs?

    CoderKat ,

    Same. Honestly, I expected YTM to make things worse. That’s usually how those kinda things go. But it actually did get better for me. I jumped to Google Play Music because it had better selection than Spotify (at least back then). YTM kept that, but fixed the issues I was having with the desktop browser player sometimes getting stuck. And the more recent support for lyrics that are synced to the music is great.

    rambaroo , (edited )

    Their queueing system sucks. All I want to do is queue up some songs but instead YTM fills my queue with tons of crap I’ve never listened to before because that’s how they make money. They put my manually queued songs at the END of the queue so I have to move them up 20+ spaces. There’s literally no way to do it other than creating a custom playlist every time I listen to music, and they intentionally made that take more clicks/taps than queuing. I don’t get how people are ok with the YTM app, it’s terrible.

    I hate YTM and I hate that I can’t cancel it because they bundle it with YouTube premium, which my partner uses every day. Screw Google and they anti-consumer manipulative bs.

    uranos ,

    Yeah, you can use the play next button but it’s not ideal

    nudnyekscentryk ,
    @nudnyekscentryk@szmer.info avatar

    Their queueing system sucks. All I want to do is queue up some songs but instead YTM fills my queue with tons of crap I’ve never listened to before because that’s how they make money. They put my manually queued songs at the END of the queue so I have to move them up 20+ spaces. There’s literally no way to do it other than creating a custom playlist every time I listen to music, and they intentionally made that take more clicks/taps than queuing. I don’t get how people are ok with the YTM app, it’s terrible.

    wrong.

    1. you can disable automatic queuing by hitting the ‘auto-play’ switch in UP NEXT
    2. you can queue songs by long-pressing and hitting ‘play next’ (which will put it in front of the queue) or ‘add to queue’ (which will put it in my the end
    rambaroo , (edited )

    No, I’m not wrong. Option 1 does not exist on my phone. There is no switch.

    And the “play next” feature also sucks. I don’t want to “play next”. I want to build a queue like literally any other music app and that isn’t what “play next” does.

    Edit: I don’t see that “auto-play” switch on the web app in Safari either.

    nudnyekscentryk ,
    @nudnyekscentryk@szmer.info avatar

    yes you are, it must be there unless you’re using an obsolete release of the app. Below is a screenshot how it looks like

    yes, you can build a queue by “adding to queue”.

    https://szmer.info/pictrs/image/d1e10be9-e6af-4cb9-a789-6bdcd2bee3d2.png

    rambaroo ,

    No. I’m not wrong, and I don’t appreciate you repeatedly telling me I am when you obviously have no clue what I’m looking at.

    It isn’t there. I’m on Android 13 with the latest version of the app. There is no “auto-play” toggle anywhere. I’d upload screenshots to prove it but lemmy is throwing exceptions. I’ve checked every tab and settings page as well.

    rambaroo ,

    So I finally figured it out. this is how that toggle works:

    • it only appears when you manually search for a song or select a song from certain groups on the home page.
    • it does not appear to appear if you select a song from “listen again” or “quick picks” in which case the app forces you to listen to whatever is in their queue unless you manually clear the queue.

    So no matter what it’s still a bad experience.

    nudnyekscentryk ,
    @nudnyekscentryk@szmer.info avatar

    oh yeah, you are right-ish. it doesn’t show up if you launch a “radio”, which innately is a automatic, end-less playlist of similar music. I do agree though that this should be more visible in the UI

    red ,

    There’s literally a feature on Spotify where you can hide an artist and never see it, fyi

    aggelalex , to linux in Today GNU/Linux is 32 years old

    It is NOT portable (uses 386 task switching etc), and it probably never will support anything other than AT-harddisks, as that’s all I have :-(.

    Famous last words

    wmassingham ,

    *protable

    indepndnt ,

    Imagine making a typo and it continually being shared and highlighted for over 30 years.

    Kinda makes me glad I’ll never be famous for anything.

    ChaoticNeutralCzech ,

    TIL Linus B. Torvalds is anti-table

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