There was another poll that showed that there were virtually no transmen here. Would be interesting if someone researched that.
I think the trans community tends towards privacy oriented tools due to the political climate.
Let me tell you one of the reasons that I’m here. When I was eight I got a pc on my birthday. My sister was on that thing for two weeks using dos and acing grand prix motor. She was given a baby doll which could cry and eat and pee. That goes to show how deeply ingrained these norms are in our culture. How would my sister ever have a chance without a pc? She received the message and didn’t touch it again.
Another thing I can bring to the table is that I had game history and we learned that marketing of games used to be to boys and girls. And in the 80s or so it was figured out that marketing only to one gender group is more successful. That’s when games started focusing solely on boys.
Further, all the game authors were men, which further cements it.
For example I’ve been playing Oblivion lately and it’s almost impossible to find some proper pants. Any pants that I pick up magically transform into skirts and dresses: 1000011965
I like to believe we can reach a world where those things don’t matter anymore. But I’m just pointing out that right now there’s deficit of AFAB people here. I’m not saying it’s necessarily the fault of the open source community, but I would like to understand why exactly this has occurred. Is that wrong?
Anyone thinking that lemmy is a welcoming space to women should read through that thread first.
Edit: the current state of Lemmy and the fediverse reminds me heavily of early reddit, for better and for worse. You can curate some pretty supportive communities if you are careful picking them out, they remain well moderated, etc. But there are plenty of places where you’ll get scummy content if you wander or if posts attract too much attention.
You don’t try and attract a specific demographic. You just create the space you want and if they also value that space you they will choose to participate. It’s not 2005 there are women on the internet everywhere. Lemmy has a lot of women compared to reddit and mastodon has a decent women userbase as well it feels.
Hexbear is a bad representation of lemmy ignore their demographic polls.
As for actionable steps I think we are doing a good enough job already. The communities here are not toxic. The users are mature and call out sexist stuff when it happens. The only thing we could probably do is host more content that women typically tend to enjoy but that will come with growth of the site and is better done organically.
If you’re browsing ‘all’ without any filters there’s still a good portion of porn and porn-like content that’s objectfying and thus probably repelling women.
This is an extremely delicate subject - it should be our goal for everyone to feel welcome in Lemmy and seeing a low sample of cis women on the platform might indicate that women are feeling unwelcome here. That tracks with general experience of mixed gender internet spaces where women will experience increased harrassment (and might actually poison a survey since one defensive reaction is to just deny that you’re a woman).
This is slightly complicated by the fact that we’re not drawing from the general human population, Lemmy’s user base trends strongly to the technically literate (which is a gender biased population for terrible reasons outside of Lemmy specifically) which may account for part of the result. The result may also be impacted by the fact that technical fields have traditionally been more accepting (not fully accepting or anything - but less awful) when it comes to LGBT+ folks - so we’re likely going to see a higher than normal presence of trans folks as a result.
Additionally, Lemmy is a style of forum that is extremely similar to Reddit and so it’s likely that people who had negative experiences over there are extremely hesitant to try Lemmy - Reddit is quite infamous for hosting openly misogynistic community, promoting misogynistic views, spawning IRL misogynistic movements and allowing a lot of toxicity in DMs towards women in particular. It’s likely that Reddit has just burned a lot of women off ever considering a forum like thus.
Lastly, I’d hope we can avoid specifically trying to increase one demographics engagement on the platform, I think there’s a distinction between making sure everyone feels welcome and trying to attract a specific demographic - while that distinction may not feel significant to some people it, at least, makes the difference between being good and being cringey to me.
These are locally run and often volunteer based instances.
Anyone can spawn any amount of accounts and run their instance however they’d like, giving lots of trolls neat little nooks to hide in.
You’re expecting to get real results? How did you account for multiple votes? How are you even sure that the data from the polls if unique, is accurate?
Garbage in. Garbage out. People will use Lemmy if they want to. End of story. Idk why everyone is so obsessed with inflating user counts
I think I would swap all usage of “Lemmy” for “Hexbear” in the OP as that instance is not an accurate representation of the whole of Lemmy. Perhaps choosing one of the general Lemmy instances would give a more accurate representation.
i don’t think hexbear is a good sample group for the average lemmy user nor representative of lemmy users a whole. you might do better sampling lemmy.world, or assembling a meta poll from the top 5 or top 10 instances.
KreekCraft accidentally played a Baldi’s Basics song that was highly inappropriate on stream.
“For those of us who have ages in the double digits” You have to be out of your mind to assume someone is underage just because of a stupid silly meme. For your information I am over 20 and harassing people online won’t get you anywhere. Besides Kreek is an adult man for God’s sake, why do you have to shit on people’s interests? It’s like saying adults aren’t allowed to play ROBLOX because it appeals to children more. KreekCraft literally plays Roblox and he is, like, 27 years old as of April this year.
How about you stop assuming people’s age(s) when they make silly memes like this? It will give you a better look…
Like, for the love of God, imagine if it was the other way around and I was the one saying YOU were underage for posting something like this. Wouldn’t really give me a good look, right? I’m guessing it would hurt your feelings since it is harassment. You definitely would not be happy with someone calling you underage online even though you are clearly an adult?
Then why the fuck are YOU doing that shit? You wouldn’t like it if you were the one in this position, so why are you doing this? It’s not a good look for you. You can’t just assume someone’s age! If you do it makes you look like an asshole.
I’m not saying it to be mean, I am saying it because that is how it is. Treat others with the same level of respect as you want and people would share the same amount of respect back. Just appreciate the meme and move on, or don’t, continue to act the way you are acting right now, and lose the respect of everyone around you.
You have to give respect to earn it. You didn’t, so that’s on you.
It’s highly likely that they haven’t seen your response. Assuming from myself I usually respond between 5 minutes and 2 days. Give it a day, if they don’t respond after that, then that could be treated as ghosting.
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