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FuglyDuck , in Alex Jones Is Now Trying to Divert Money to His Father’s Supplements Business
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of course his father is a gifting pill-pusher.

being an asshole scam artist is apparently a family industry.

billiam0202 , (edited )

Alex Jones’ parents are members of the John Birch Society, and his dad not only helped Jones get InfoWars off the ground, he is also part owner of the trust that is the owner of Free Speech Systems (the parent company of InfoWars).

That shit apple didn’t just not fall far from the shit tree, it fell straight fucking down.

FuglyDuck ,
@FuglyDuck@lemmy.world avatar

It’s less that I’m surprised and more I just never cared to look.

If their ancestors knew they’d spawn those fuck faces; they’d have written evolution off as a bad idea and stayed in the trees.

Viking_Hippie ,

Actually, Alex Jones believes that he IS his ancestors. How that’s supposed to work with at least one of his parents still alive, I have no idea 😄

androogee , (edited )

Generic memory. He lifted it straight from Dune specifically, though it’s a common enough trope.

In Dune some have access to their parents’ memories up to the point of conception. At one point Paul is talking to his mother in real life and has his mother in his head at the same time.

Viking_Hippie ,

up to the point of conception

So it cuts off right as your dad ejaculates? Or the fusion of the gametes to give rise to a zygote?

Either way, too much erect dad penis in your memory, if you ask me 😬😆

androogee ,

Presumably it cuts off at the moment your daddy’s balls manufacture the sperm cell, which would be a bit beforehand. But you still get all the memories of him at 13, furiously hogging the jergens in the bathroom while thinking about his cousin’s nip slip at Easter dinner or whatever.

Viking_Hippie ,

Knowing that, i now believe that a horror sex comedy Dune prequel is imperative 😂

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

To quote Douglas Adams:

and some said that even the trees had been a bad move, and that no-one should ever have left the oceans.

RootBeerGuy , in Pentagon ran secret anti-vax campaign to undermine China during pandemic
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How the fuck does anyone think its a good idea to keep people from vaccinating? They realise the virus just keeps spreading globally if any one country keeps having it in circulation? Just bizarre. Just like Russia.

Zipitydew ,

It started while Trump was trying to act like the pandemic was a hoax. So I’m not that surprised. Article also says Biden shut it down in spring of 2021 which wasn’t long after he was sworn in.

gAlienLifeform , (edited )
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Except the article also notes that Twitter didn’t remove the accounts and their posts until Reuters told them about it, presumably because the Department of Defense never told Twitter or anyone else about this program.

Biden should have informed the public about this bad behavior, publicly condemned it, and publicly held the people behind it accountable. It shouldn’t have taken investigative journalists digging quotes out of nameless sources to bring this to light if the administration were serious about preventing the spread of misinformation and not just trying to sweep an obviously dumb idea under the rug before it could blow up in their faces.

e; also, the article concludes

The Pentagon’s audit concluded that the military’s primary contractor handling the campaign, General Dynamics IT, had employed sloppy tradecraft, taking inadequate steps to hide the origin of the fake accounts, said a person with direct knowledge of the review. The review also found that military leaders didn’t maintain enough control over its psyop contractors, the person said.

A spokesperson for General Dynamics IT declined to comment.

Nevertheless, the Pentagon’s clandestine propaganda efforts are set to continue. In an unclassified strategy document last year, top Pentagon generals wrote that the U.S. military could undermine adversaries such as China and Russia using “disinformation spread across social media, false narratives disguised as news, and similar subversive activities [to] weaken societal trust by undermining the foundations of government.”

And in February, the contractor that worked on the anti-vax campaign – General Dynamics IT – won a $493 million contract. Its mission: to continue providing clandestine influence services for the military.

Serinus ,

Maybe they did. The White House has ways of getting information out without significantly adding additional attention.

The anonymous sources here were way more talkative than military types tend to be.

Seems to me like an example of another thing getting repaired after Trump broke it.

gAlienLifeform ,
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Attention should have been drawn to this. Beyond the whole “America should practice what it preaches to every other country” thing, how is someone who was exposed to our disinformation and believed it going to find out it was false if we just try to memory-hole the whole thing?

They were only talkative after the Reuters reporters showed up with evidence of their bad behavior, so it’s not like we’re dealing with whistleblowers here. Fair point that military types tend to say a lot of bullshit and don’t like to answer questions, though, which is why what really ought to happen here is a public Congressional hearing with subpoenas that force them to answer questions with their names attached to their statements. We need to know who the people who approved and implemented this were so we can make sure their careers with our military are over (or that they’re never contracted for work by our military ever again).

Seems to me like another example of shithead moderate Dems covering up for psychopathic Republicans and normalizing their shittiest policies by coming up with a bit more paperwork instead of tearing them out root and branch like most Dem voters would want them to (see also; Biden continuing Trump’s attacks on asylum and migration, Obama continuing Bush’s drone war, Clinton continuing Reagan and Bush’s attacks on welfare programs, etc.).

Zipitydew ,

Trump takes a dump in the White House. Biden doesn’t manage to mop it all up.

You - How could Biden have missed this spot.

gAlienLifeform ,
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Why did he sweep one of Trump’s turds under the rug and leave it for Reuters to clean up?

Serinus ,

Because he’s still trying to do what’s good for the country.

yogurt ,

alarmed social media executives warned the new administration that the Pentagon had been trafficking in COVID misinformation

The military argued that many of its fake accounts were being used for counterterrorism and asked Facebook not to take down the content

Sounds more like the Pentagon did tell them so they could whitelist the Pentagon trolls from getting banned. Then social media companies got nervous that the troll farm was sloppy and going to get caught by someone not under NDA sooner or later, and a new admin was an opportunity to lobby to get out of this bad PR situation.

Zaktor ,

He should have, but members of the armed forces are heroes, regardless of their actual actions, and slighting them in any way is an attack on American patriotism.

The general in charge of this was promoted in August of 2021.

index ,

This is the government, their goal is to stay in power and screw you over

Nobody , in DeSantis Declares Emergency Over Floods After Cutting Stormwater Funds

I’m not sure if gay marriage causes hurricanes, but it looks an awful lot like hate and fascism cause floods.

aeronmelon ,

And Quarterly Earnings reports.

girlfreddy , in Washington man arrested after fatally shooting teen who had BB gun
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“Myers felt like he did not have time to call 911, and that he had a duty to act to stop the individuals from hurting someone innocent, and to protect his son, who was in the location next door,” according to the police report.

No time to call 911 my ass.

Fucking murderer didn’t want anyone else getting the credit for his kill.

Riccosuave , (edited )
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You want to know what is even more fucked up. The Renton police King County Sherriff’s office was conducting an emergency response drill in the same parking lot less than 250 feet away from where his car was AT THE EXACT SAME TIME THIS HAPPENED. He didn’t have to “call the fucking police”, he could have literally rolled down his window and screamed for help, and they would have come running. Also the police station is literally like 3 blocks away from where this store is located anyway. Fuck this dumb cunt. If it was up to me he would be getting life in prison without the possibility of parole.

Edit: (Source) https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/f668dfee-402a-448f-ab7a-44272f847679.jpeg

ripcord ,
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Weird the article didn’t mention that. Did I miss it? Otherwise do you have a source?

Riccosuave ,
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See my original comment above. I added in a source for you.

ripcord ,
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Thanks!

buttfarts ,

Justifiable homicide fetishist: “Today is my day”

He probably imagined glowing headlines about his great heroism and vigilance

damnedfurry ,

No time to call 911 my ass.

Let’s be real, here. If those guys were intending to commit a violent crime, and were literally in the parking lot of the establishment they were going to commit a crime at, do you really think a call to 911 would have resulted in anyone on the scene any earlier than long after the crime had been committed?

It didn’t justify his action, obviously, but come on. This isn’t Night City where cops magically materialize on scene the moment something suspicious happens, lol

Zink ,

I mean, if I’m going to go initiate an armed conflict with some criminals, I’d want backup on the way no matter what, right?

But that wasn’t going through this maniac’s mind. He was way too excited about it being his time to act!

AA5B ,

Ah, yes: pre-crime. Gotta shoot em early before they commit a crime

damnedfurry ,

Try reading what I wrote again, you clearly failed on the first pass.

I’m saying he shouldn’t have done anything, but also that he is definitely correct that calling 911 wouldn’t have prevented anything in the worst case scenario.

AA5B ,

I think this is where most such efforts fail; this is the “good guy with a gun” fallacy. It’s usually NOT “the worst case scenario”, and people are bad at recognizing this (in both directions)

damnedfurry ,

Holy fuck it’s not that deep, the literal only point I’m making is that police response times are typically slow. That’s all.

this is the “good guy with a gun” fallacy.

From me? No certainly is not, because I’m not saying that the above fact justified his vigilantism.

Can you guys stop ignoring that part of what I write? It’s getting obnoxious having to keep repeating myself.

matrixrunner , in Mystery as Russian judge dies after falling from window
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“mystery”

Catoblepas ,
Diplomjodler3 ,

Nobody can possibly explain it.

EarthShipTechIntern ,

Nobody is my favorite movie hero.

He doesn’t have to explain it’s understood

dogsnest ,
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Alternative mysteries.

JoMiran , in Tesla chair says Elon Musk needs $46 billion pay plan to stay motivated
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A motivated Elon produced the Cubertruck and replaced the Autonomous Driving ladar sensors with low resolution cameras. A motivated Elon turned Twitter into Xitter. I’m just saying that maybe you want to avoid a motivated Elon.

billiam0202 ,

A motivated-Elon is why sales of Teslas are declining while other EV sales are up by double digits.

cmbabul , in Texas asks people to avoid using their cars

I’m not a Texas fan or defender by any means, but I do know Texans, and the state telling them to not do something will make them do it more out of spite

Texas_Hangover ,

You’re goddamned right!

Today ,

I didn’t really need to go anywhere today, but now I’m considering it. Fuck you Greg Abbott. You can’t scream oil at me and then tell me not to use it!

Riven ,
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TEXAS NOOO PLEASE DON’T CREATE MORE PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION, MY LIB SENSIBILITIES WOULDN’T BE ABLE TO HANDLE IT.

bradorsomething ,

I personally feel owned by interconnected light rail, not gonna lie.

ASeriesOfPoorChoices ,

Texans, by Roald Dahl

“Why do they love acting so tough?” she used to ask.

“Because they’re children,” Ed would answer. “They’re dangerous children who go about trying to imitate their grandfathers. Their grandfathers were pioneers. These people aren’t.”

0110010001100010 , in Justice Alito's Upside-Down Flag Claim Dismantled by Police, Neighbors: Report
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The signs were soon taken down by Emily’s mother out of safety concerns.

My wife pushes back but this right here is the reason I don’t have certain signs/flags on my property. If it was just me, fuck the fascists I would fly so much shit all the time. I just can’t in good conscious put my wife and kids lives in danger because of the rabid right-wing cultists out there. I understand that’s by design and exactly what they want but their safety is far superior to mine.

sepi ,

When you conform and shut up, they win. This fear for your family is what they want you to feel and how they've silenced entire nations in the past.

TWeaK ,

Yes but when they SWAT you and one of your family members dies you lose even harder.

Tja ,

The lack of accountability of the police in the US is astounding. People talk about swatting like and avalanche or something. Yeah, it’s just going to kill you, nothing you can do about it.

KoboldCoterie ,
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Even if we had accountability, accountability happens after the fact. It’s a small consolation that a swat team got charged after they killed your wife or kids. Your loved ones are still dead.

Not that we don’t need it, don’t get me wrong, but we need procedural overhauls even more, to stop people from getting killed in the first place.

Tja ,

After 10 swat teams end up in jail, they are going to be careful entering people’s homes.

TWeaK ,

They also need to address the false calls. I think the phone bill payer should automatically be liable for the deployment costs of a false call, unless they point the finger at the person who actually made the call. That wouldn’t quite be justice, as it wouldn’t necessarily make them liable for the false report, but it would go a long way to stopping them.

KoboldCoterie ,
@KoboldCoterie@pawb.social avatar

I’d even go a step further and charge them with something criminal. Reckless endangerment if nothing else. The cost of the call itself is only a small part of it; the intent is to cause fear or harm to the individual being targeted, and they should be liable for that.

TWeaK ,

Absolutely, but proving all of that is a tall order. Turning it into a civil offense where the bill payer is automatically liable sets a much lower bar, where successful prosecution is far more likely.

Fondots ,

I work in 911 dispatch, the area I work in has gotten a few attempted swatting calls, and they usually tend to come from various free calling apps, or burner phones, and I think even a handful of times from payphones (yes, there’s still a few out there) which can make it really damn hard to tie them back to an actual person the way we can with most regular phone numbers. They also tend to call our 10-digit non-emergency numbers instead of 911, so we don’t get an address or location info for the caller like we would on a 911 line.

For what it’s worth, the cops in my area have done a really good job of not going nuts when they respond to these calls, and not to toot my own horn too hard, but I think a lot of that has to do with the quality of the dispatchers at my center, every time we’ve gotten one, whoever took the call pretty much immediately caught on that something was fucky and notated the hell out of every strange thing about the call to make sure the cops knew something may be up. One of the first swatting calls I remember seeing back when they started taking off a few years ago was answered by a somewhat older dude who had never even heard of swatting at that point, and he still caught on pretty quick that something was fishy. There’s other dispatch centers I’ve dealt with where I absolutely would not trust them to catch on or handle it well.

barsquid ,

It’s even more egregious that SWAT is sent out on some anonymous VoIP shit originating from a VPN. That is not probable cause. In a just society everyone breaking and entering on zero evidence would be civilly and criminally liable.

Fondots ,

The problem is that we do get a lot of actual legitimate calls through these VoIP apps, or from people calling from out of the area, on our 10 digit lines, etc.

I don’t know the actual demographics, but it seems like a lot of people use these apps as their primary phones, especially in lower income communities, homeless people, etc. and of course those people have have actual emergencies too, and we wouldn’t want withhold or delay appropriate resources from them in an emergency just because we don’t like their phone number.

We also get people from across the country or occasionally even other countries calling our 10 digit lines because they spoke with their friend or relative either on the phone or over discord or facebook or whatever, they disclosed that they’re having an emergency but are unable or unwilling to call for themselves, so their friend looks up our number and calls for them.

And a lot of these swatting type calls aren’t too far-fetched, we do get murders and shootings, barricaded subjects, etc. with some regularity (not an every day occurrence by any means, but if you work here for a year or two you’ll probably at least see a couple happen if not answer the call yourself.)

When it might be called for, we do send swat, they can take a while to mobilize thanks to how it’s organized in our county with the SWAT teams being made up of officers from multiple different departments, so it’s better to have them stage nearby and not need them than to wait until shit hits the fan and potentially take 20-30 minutes or even longer for them to make it there.

But again, they’re staging, they might go as far surrounding the house, evacuating neighbors, drones in the air, etc. but unless there’s a clear immediate threat they exhaust all possible options before breaking in, and so far that’s paid off. YMMV, I absolutely do not trust all departments to show that much restraint.

barsquid ,

Thank you for the perspective on this. Maybe the ones I hear of are the more egregious departments that do not behave with restraint. If there are legitimate calls coming in that way, it does make sense to respond.

Fondots ,

Yeah, we’ve had calls come to us in all sorts of crazy ways called in by all sorts of different people for all sorts of wild situations. We kind of have to treat all calls as if they might be real no matter how outlandish, and just make sure we notate anything weird about them. I could probably write several books about all of the crazy 3rd and 4th party calls, people calling from the emergency phone in an elevator, suicide threats called in from a bank because the person decided to bare their soul to Wells Fargo customer service, calling from deactivated phones on VoIP apps because it’s the only way they could call, etc.

Of course there’s a lot of room for new regulations, training, etc. on how police can/should act on the info from our calls. The cops in my area mostly seem to have a good idea how to handle it, but not all departments are created equal. And it’s an ever-evolving situation with new stuff always coming up. We hd to recently explain to one of our cops about crash detection from iphones because he’d never heard of it before.

TWeaK ,

What do you think about my suggestion of holding the bill payer liable? Obviously this wouldn’t help with pay phones, but any service where someone pays through a traceable means could work. Do you think that would help reduce the number of fraudulent calls?

Fondots ,

Since, like I said, most of these aren’t coming in through traceable means, I think it’s of pretty limited utility.

There’s also a lot of cases out there, where a lot of people are on the same phone plan who may not even live together, I’m still on my parents phone plan as a married man in my 30s who lives an hour away from them, the way the contracts and such have worked out it’s cheaper for us and there’s no sense of changing it if it’s working fine for all of us. But if I tried to swat someone, it’d be kind of a dick move to hold my parents responsible for it.

Fondots , (edited )

Another thought that just crossed my mind, for the most part, there’s already laws in place about false police reports, misuse of 911, etc. that this kind of thing could fall under. It’s probably a better use of legislative time and resources to improve the issues with how the police respond to these calls, and to make sure that the existing laws can be enforced fairly and efficiently than to try to introduce a new law that covers a pretty narrow set of circumstances that’s not even particularly common.

If we wanted to introduce new laws specifically to address this, I’d probably want tighter regulations on the VoIP apps, cellular providers, etc. to make it easier for us to identify who’s calling (although as someone who does value my privacy and mostly prefers anonymity when possible, I’m hesitant at best to actually support that kind of measure.)

I’ve worked here for almost 6 years, we’ve probably had about as many swatting calls (somewhat more if you count repeated calls to the same address, but after the first one we usually add a caution note to the address so that everyone from the calltakers to the officers responding are aware that it could be a false call) It’s not exactly the biggest issue we face. I’d personally prefer to see something done, maybe some kind of mental health reform, so we can actually do something about the 2 or 3 repeat callers I’ve probably spoken to, without exaggeration, almost 100 times each over the last month or so. They’re hallucinating or having delusions or something along those lines, so in their minds they’re reporting an actual emergency making it difficult to make false report or misuse of 911 charges stick because their intent factors into those charges, and they also don’t really present a danger to themselves or others, so we can’t really get them committed either, and on top of that, even if it were possible to use the current laws, no one really wants to deal with the necessary paperwork and court dates and such to pursue those kinds of things, in the grand scheme they’re still a fairly minor nuisance and we all have things we’d rather be doing than that, work-related or not.

Also general public education, and other kinds of conflict resolution solutions, or other sort of social programs (some of which fall under the defend EDIT: defund the police banner) could go a long way. We get a lot of calls for things that are in no way shape or form police issues, and a lot of situations that probably could have been headed off before they became police issues if people had access to other sorts of of counseling, mediators, and safety nets to fall back on. If people had access to better ways to manage and express their anger at someone and to address whatever issues there may be, maybe they wouldn’t try to escalate things to SWATing. Maybe a guidance counselor took note of your anger issues in school and helped you learn to handle those feelings before you decided to SWAT the guy who beat you in fortnight (or whatever the big multiplayer game is these days, I’m out of the loop on that.) Maybe if we had UBI it wouldn’t be such a big deal that your ex kicked you out of their house and you wouldn’t feel a need to start a years-long vendetta against them. Or maybe if there was an easier way to get some sort of third party involved in your dispute to act as a mediator/arbiter, you wouldn’t have as much animosity towards the person you have beef with. Lots of other potential avenues to investigate to prevent these things from happening in the first place instead of trying to deal with them after the fact.

rayyy ,

Except that isn’t going to happen unless there is drastic change.

Triasha ,

Sounds like change we can believe in.

CatOnTheChainWax ,

The Some More News podcast is doing a week of reporting on police training, misconduct/murder, and specifically “How they’re trained to kill you in your homes”- episode title. I’ll be following it and start to look at the topic myself since it’s an area I know nothing about but massively affects everyone. Other than experiencing the disgusting nature of dealing with cops and navigating the legal system with and against them, I don’t know how they function as a national system or how departments work. There is so much pro police or detective propaganda on TV and everywhere that the lines have become blurred on the reality of their actual jobs and role in society.

quindraco ,

their actual jobs

They don’t appear to have actual jobs. I’m sure they have job descriptions on paper, but SCOTUS has been quite clear that they can’t be legally compelled to do their jobs, and sure enough, every time I’ve ever called the police, they’ve simply refused to enforce the law. The last time was when a police sergeant literally told me that boat theft wasn’t a criminal matter.

WindyRebel ,

What? I’m curious what the rationale was. Theft is classified as a crime, so how can any tangible item followed by theft not be a crime?!

quindraco ,

No rationale given, they just told me to sue in civil court instead.

WindyRebel ,

Damn. That’s just nuts. Thanks for sharing this experience as I’ve never heard of this. I don’t own a boat, but they can apply that to anything unless I am rich.

CatOnTheChainWax ,

I’m sorry you had to go through that, one of my experiences with them is getting hit by a car while cycling breaking some important bones, they showed up and gave me a business card to call them while I was laying on the ground bleeding from everywhere offering no help other than asking if I could walk to the hospital several blocks away. The EMTs chased them away thankfully. Then 8 months later they finally finished typing their whole one paragraph “police report” for my insurance claim, getting every detail wrong. A random shooter guy shot at me and missed this past November while I was out in my neighborhood walking my dog, in a different City, I found his name and all details about him to give the police. They still haven’t arrested him because he didn’t actually hit me while shooting at my head and can’t be bothered to “do their jobs”

quindraco ,

My boat was very cheap, so a lawsuit would lose me money, but you might be able to win a lot more over attempted murder. Maybe worth the cost of paying a lawyer to hear you out?

rayyy ,

This fear for your family is what they want you to feel

The reason to fear low-life creatures is because they will attack irrationally with little cause. There will come a time when good people must stand their ground, and it is not far - be prepared.

Adalast ,

I am sitting here contemplating the wording for a sign that says something along the lines of “This house’s guns are for dealing with fascists.” Should still fall under free speach and not fighting words or threats since it is devoid of specific intent and specific targeting words.

They seem to think they are the only ones who have means for aggression, they are direly mistaken.

shalafi ,

Same exact reasoning here, but I have another. Why paint a target on myself when the fascists are doing so voluntarily? A Trump flag says, “You are my enemy.” Why should I give them the same intelligence on me?

MossyFeathers ,

They’re already making lists. Between apps like these and the kinda surveillance the US totally doesn’t do on US citizens, you’re probably already on a conservative’s hit list.

FlyingSquid ,
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We live in a bellwether county, meaning the vote (almost) always goes to the winner of the presidential election, so there’s a decent mix, but I still don’t put political signs on my lawn because I don’t want to deal with shit from people. We put up a sign on our lawn once that said that everyone was welcome in our home in multiple languages and my librarian wife had us put up a “We [heart] Our Library” sign, but that’s as political as I want people to think we are in this neighborhood because the last thing I need is to get into a nasty argument with a guy a couple of houses down with a Trump sign.

We do have a United Federation of Planets flag on the flag pole that came with the house though.

barsquid ,

Loving the library is a political sign nowadays, unfortunately. Let alone welcoming ESL speakers into your home.

FlyingSquid ,
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I realize that, but it’s not going to get my neighbor to come over to me and start yelling at me about voting for Biden.

(Also, this is a college town, so if they don’t like ESL people, they’re out of luck.)

Psychodelic ,

That is an excellent lesson to teach your kids /s

Jk, kinda. I don’t have kids (so totally easy for me to say) but I know of that one poem/saying that goes, I taught my daughter not to stand out and be obedient so she wouldn’t struggle against the fascists. Now, I realize I should’ve taught her to be herself and stand out, as that is what this world needs now more than ever… don’t remember exactly but it was something like that, I also don’t remember where I heard it

Cosmonauticus , in Revealed: Tyson Foods dumps millions of pounds of toxic pollutants into US rivers and lakes

It’s almost like if you don’t regulate giant corporations they’ll do whatever the fuck they want

MrVilliam ,

And the one thing they want is to maximize profits. It’s not that they want rivers and lakes to be polluted, it’s that not polluting rivers and lakes costs more money than polluting rivers and lakes. And if the fines aren’t higher than the difference, then they’ll just keep doing it and pay their subscription fee.

themeatbridge ,

Polluting natural resources is a violent crime against all of humanity. It should not be a fine.

Atelopus-zeteki ,
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Jail Time, significant jail time is what should result from these actions.

MrVilliam ,

Corporations are people, last I heard. Sounds like board members and executives should split prison time between them based on percentage of culpability.

homesweethomeMrL ,

RepubliQans laugh

AllonzeeLV ,

Externality: Noun - Capitalist term for “I already got your fucking money, so my mess is your problem you fucking sucker peasants 🖕🤑💰”

theareciboincident ,

100% agree, however it is also important to keep in mind the many other decisions made by corporations explicitly to cause pain at the cost of less profit.

In capitalist society, cruelty is the point. Happy workers are proven to be more productive and care more about the company’s well being.

The whole return to office debacle proves executives care more about power and abuse than profit.

In conclusion, corporations are people and that means their executive boards should be sentenced to [this comment was removed by Lemmy].

kozy138 ,

They’ll even do things like paying off regulators so that they repeal laws that limit profit

Stern , in ‘He erased the entire project’ … the book Stanley Kubrick didn’t want anyone to read to be published
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A well regarded artistic mind being kind of a piece of shit? I am shocked! I’m just thankful personal favorites of mine like Orson Scott Card, J.K. Rowling, and H.P. Lovecraft are fine, upstanding individuals who’ve dodged controversy at every turn.

Wait hold on… He’s a massive homophobe? She said what? He named his cat that?

Oh… well… umm… lovely weather we’re having huh?

FlyingSquid ,
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To be fair, the name of Lovecraft’s cat was the tip of the iceberg when it came to him. I love the world building he did, but it’s kind of hard to read a lot of his stories filled with big-lipped, dark savages. On the other hand, with Lovecraft, it seemed less a case of “white people are superior” and more a case of “all of humanity deserves to be thrown into the hellbeast pit, but white people should be thrown in last,” which is… still racist, but I guess not supremacist exactly?

Apparently his Jewish wife occasionally had to remind him who he married when he would go off on an antisemitic tirade, which I find quite amusing.

QuarterSwede ,
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That’s a lot of deflection of personal self hate.

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  • FlyingSquid ,
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    Agent641 ,

    The cats name was Nagger Man it was a black cat, and lovecraft was terrified of black people.

    catloaf ,

    Except not exactly that. There’s one different vowel.

    masquenox ,

    Nope. Lovecraft was about as white supremacist as it gets - he literally excused lynchings of black folks and the KKK’s terrorism because, supposedly, white people had to resort to “extra-legal measures” to protect themselves from (supposed) “mongrelisation.”

    Ie, just your bog-standard white supremacism on a stick.

    IvanOverdrive ,

    What I really love about Lovecraft was how inclusionary the community around the Cthulhu mythos has become.

    ImADifferentBird ,
    @ImADifferentBird@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

    That’s the nice thing about being a Terry Pratchett fan. The more I learn about him, the more I love him.

    NotAViciousCyborg ,

    And Tolkien. Fuck his estate though

    Reverendender ,

    And L Ron Hubbard! Wait…

    Dkarma ,

    So glad someone is calling out card here.

    Orson Scott card is a pile of shit.

    Furedadmins ,

    And his work is shit. I have no idea why so many adults think that young adult level writing and storytelling is the work of a master.

    borari ,

    Yeah I thought Enders Game was the best book ever when I read it in like 4th or 5th grade. I read through the whole series of books over the next few years and enjoyed them at the time. I went back to read Enders Game as an adult and realized I just really enjoyed the wish fulfillment in reading about a bullied kid smashing the bullies face in then running shit. You’re right, it’s a pretty basic book and I have no idea why any adult would hold it or Card up as anything but basic. The only good thing I have to say about it as an adult is that it helped ignite my love of science fiction.

    dudinax ,

    Card’s short story collection, Unaccompanied Sonata, is great.

    RememberTheApollo_ ,

    Tbf the first books of misunderstood child prodigy messiah in a sci fi setting were pretty good. The lack of much deviation for everything following sucked. Then there’s his politics…

    Furedadmins ,

    Enders game is pretty simplistic outcast juvenile wish fulfillment. If you read it as a kid I am sure it seemed more than space Harry potter but meh. I don’t know how it could be more pandering without a committee of child psychologists helping write it.

    braxy29 ,

    i don’t particularly recall that it was intended for young adults at the time. it was just genre fiction.

    redlue ,

    Usually “being a piece of shit” for directors means having higher standards than everyone else in the room and not caving when they all want you to cave.

    It’s just rising above the crab mentality. That upsets the crabs, though, cause they all know they’re stuck in the bucket.

    Kolanaki ,
    @Kolanaki@yiffit.net avatar

    I remember reading a biography (autobiography maybe; forget who actually wrote it) on HP Lovecraft where it mentioned his cats name and I thought “well he was from the 1800’s so product of the time…” and then find out the dude was so racist, the KKK kicked him out.

    SkyezOpen ,
    treefrog ,

    Yeah, I don’t read them either. Plenty of good art that’s not written by assholes.

    braxy29 ,

    i figure, if you dig far enough into most any creator, you are more likely to find an asshole than not. the effect increases with increasing remove (ie they lived a long time ago).

    i don’t say this to excuse what’s problematic, but i believe bad people can make good art, and also that most people aren’t angels.

    treefrog ,

    Yeah I try not to judge. But when there’s patterns of behavior and abuse I’m done. Note the word patterns.

    Everyone has isolated fuck ups on their past that’s just part of being human. But when people are consistently assholes and show no remorse, why would I give them my support?

    Other people can appreciate their art if they want. I’m not making it an ethical argument for everybody else. It just feels icky to me. So I don’t enjoy it. So I don’t consume it.

    braxy29 ,

    i will confess, i find it harder to like Frank Lloyd Wright and Picasso than i used to. i suppose this is the meaning of “never meet your heroes.” they very often disappoint; sometimes you might never see their work the same way.

    FlyingSquid , in Trump Media alerts Nasdaq to potential market manipulation from 'naked' short selling of DJT stock
    @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

    Do you guys really want them to look into your stock being manipulated? Because I think there might be some investigation in the IPO being massively overvalued…

    dhork ,

    It wasn’t an IPO, though. DWAC (a company which was formed specifically to acquire other companies) acquired Truth Social at what everyone thinks is a massively overvalued price.

    All this short selling isn’t institutional investors duping retail investors, it’s institutional investors realizing how thoroughly DWAC screwed its retail investors by engaging in this deal solely to transfer wealth to Donald Trump. The Financials simply don’t make sense, and the institutions know it.

    And the weird part is, even though there are a lot of lawsuits right now around Truth Social and DWAC, I don’t think a single one is from an investor. Because those investors have been duped into believing that all the facts around the acquisition are lies, even though the financial filings paint the picture directly.

    DragonTypeWyvern ,

    What makes you think the investors didn’t know exactly what they were buying?

    SaltySalamander ,

    They bought it

    DancingBear , in People say they're leaving religion due to anti-LGBTQ teachings and sexual abuse

    Good. Religion is about power and money.

    We don’t need a sky god to be good people.

    Nougat ,

    "Religiously unaffiliated" and "atheist" are different things.

    Shawdow194 ,
    @Shawdow194@kbin.social avatar

    "A new study from Pew Research finds that the religiously unaffiliated – a group comprised of atheists, agnostic and those who say their religion is "nothing in particular" – is now the largest cohort in the U.S."

    Nougat ,

    That's a better definition than I have heard previously, but atheists are still a portion of that group and not its whole.

    uranibaba ,

    I assumed that unaffiliated meant not belonging to a church while still believing.

    Quetzlcoatl ,
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  • Laticauda ,

    I mean people who identify as agnostic generally choose to do so specifically because they don’t see themselves as atheist. I’m agnostic myself and I definitely don’t consider myself to be atheistic any more than I consider myself to be religious.

    Sanguine ,

    And to add to this: Religion is not equal to spirituality. Left that door closed for decades.

    cm0002 ,

    We don’t need a sky god to be good people.

    I’d also argue that if a person needs the fear of a sky daddie to be a good person, they’re not really a good person

    Username02 ,

    They are looking at the sign to see if the god allows them to kill certain some people.

    Laticauda ,

    I think “good person” is a nebulous and generally subjective term. If some people need an external factor to hold themselves accountable then as long as they willingly seek out that accountability then that’s all that matters to me ultimately, I’m not going to try and micromanage how other people reconcile with their own morality in a large uncaring universe, or act like I’m an authority on how people are supposed to be “good”, all I care about is how they treat other people at the end of the day. But a lot people use religion not as a way to hold themselves personally accountable for their actions, but rather as an excuse to get away with doing bad things and dictating how other people can live their lives without having to suffer consequences. They use it to ESCAPE accountability, and that’s when I take issue with it.

    BaldProphet ,
    @BaldProphet@kbin.social avatar

    You are more intellectually honest and open-minded than the majority of people in the Fediverse.

    markstos , in Paris Olympics lifts intimacy ban for athletes and is stocking up on 300,000 condoms

    “14,250 residents…300,000 condoms”.

    So, 20 per resident.

    DharkStare ,

    From what I’ve read previously, I’m not sure that’s enough.

    scoobford ,

    I imagine they’re expecting some athletes to bring their own, free condoms tend to suck.

    I also imagine some people will go without by choice.

    tetris11 ,
    @tetris11@lemmy.ml avatar

    “it’s more aerodynamic”

    PrettyFlyForAFatGuy ,

    you used to be able to get proper branded Durex condoms for free in health centres in the UK with flavoured and ribbed varieties if you were under 18.

    Then the boomers complained and they changed it so you could only get the “extra safe” ones which made it so you could barely feel anything.

    So naturally me and my gf at the time stopped using them entirely.

    dustyData ,

    free condoms tend to suck

    They are literally made in the exact same factory with the exact same material. The only difference is marketing and some custom molds for like, ribbed, ultra thin, etc. Almost all brands in the world share the same dozen or so factories.

    scoobford ,

    Usually the lube isn’t very good and they’re the extra thicc kind that feel like fucking a milk carton.

    I’m sure they’re just as safe as the kind you buy at the store.

    dogslayeggs ,

    They run out every Olympics

    jordanlund ,
    @jordanlund@lemmy.world avatar

    They’re Olympics branded condoms, people scoop them up as souvenirs.

    https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/24700bda-4d24-499a-ae39-e4ebbb50d396.jpeg

    kautau ,

    “Only for Olympians!” sounds like a challenge of my stamina. Challenge accepted, condoms from 2012

    Ghostalmedia , in Denying Your Medical Care is Big Business in America
    @Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world avatar

    My spouse struggled with a medical condition for years and was lucky to finally get a prescription for something that actually resolved the problem. The medication was expensive ($1000+ a month), but since we literally tried everything else, insurance would “let” it be covered.

    Then I lost my job and had to move over to a new company’s insurance plan. And they won’t cover it.

    The fact that your employment in the US determines what medical care you can get is absolutely bonkers.

    credo ,

    A medication being more expensive usually indicates rarity. This means the instance of required coverage by insurance companies is also rare. The fact any medication, needed to mitigate the risk of simply being born, might not be covered by “insurance” is bonkers.

    I think we need to start a new industry to take it to insurance companies every time they deny coverage. Bury them in complaints and legal actions. Go so hard on every case that they give in immediately upon seeing the letterhead.

    Ensign_Crab ,

    I think insurance companies are useless parasites that should all have been outmoded by single payer decades ago.

    Kolanaki ,
    @Kolanaki@yiffit.net avatar

    I knew a guy with AIDS that had some pills to take like once a month I think that were around that price. I didn’t think AIDS was considered rare.

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    ickplant ,
    @ickplant@lemmy.world avatar

    My medicine is $1,500 a month without insurance. It’s a bipolar medication. It doesn’t indicate rarity, it indicates greed. They could easily sell it for half the price and still make money.

    crusa187 ,

    It’s important to keep in mind that this rarity is often artificial scarcity by the pharmaceutical companies. There are some conditions which are rare, but have treatments that have been available for decades now with generics on the market for years. They simply don’t produce much of those meds, even though it’s cheap to do so, in order to artificially inflate the market price.

    Insurers are complicit in this scheme because they don’t push back on this practice at all. Without single payer, we have no negotiating force to get pharmaceuticals to produce drugs in an affordable way, so they can manipulate the market however they please. It’s absolutely depraved.

    shani66 ,

    Most meds take dollars to make. It ain’t rarity.

    Maggoty ,

    That’s their point. If I need to setup a production facility but there’s only demand for a thousand doses a year, then the long term capital costs are going to drive the unit price up.

    But there’s also greed. Stuff that’s a dollar to make and a thousand dollars to use.

    Boozilla ,
    @Boozilla@lemmy.world avatar

    They did that to prevent people from being able to shop for insurance. They promote capitalism, but they suppress competition which is, in theory, supposed to be part of a “healthy” capitalist economy.

    The ACA helped a tiny bit, but it didn’t go nearly far enough. And then they tried a zillion times to revoke even that.

    It’s never been about healthcare, it’s always been about making a small number of people very wealthy.

    captainlezbian ,

    Seriously. My wife lost her job because of medical conditions (depression and adhd) before we were married. Getting her treatment was part of why we got married

    GluWu , in Double-swiping the rewards card led to free gas for months — and a felony theft charge

    If you do it once, good for you. If you do it repeatedly, also good for you. But if you “used 510 times, and more than 7,400 gallons of gas were pumped for free”( in only a 7 month period), I don’t know what you expect. You’re going 2-3 times a day getting 14gal every time.

    zenharbinger ,

    The article says she let another person use her card for a fee.

    FlyingSquid ,
    @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

    That should be the illegal part. Taking advantage of a loophole should not be illegal. Charging other people so that you can take advantage of the loophole, on the other hand, is a scam.

    snooggums ,
    @snooggums@midwest.social avatar

    Pretty sure that was the illegal part and the title left that step out.

    LodeMike ,

    In which case she would be charged with racketeering or something not theft.

    the_frumious_bandersnatch ,

    No, charging other people so that you can take advantage of a loophole is called Tax Preparation

    FlyingSquid ,
    @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

    It’s still a scam though. Just, unfortunately, a legal scam.

    madcaesar ,

    There it is

    fustigation769curtain ,

    So what? Why do we cheer when regular people get caught abusing the system while the ruling class does it every single day?

    I think most of ya’ll are just jealous while thinking you’re “so much smarter than her” because you wouldn’t have been caught.

    Children, the lot of you.

    iopq ,

    How about people shouldn’t steal, no matter who?

    fustigation769curtain ,

    I am 100% cool with stealing from rich people since they only get rich by abusing others.

    Fuck’em.

    iopq ,

    Yeah, okay, the rest of us aren’t criminals

    fustigation769curtain ,

    Sure you are.

    Ever jay-walked?

    iopq ,

    It’s not a criminal court issue, you only get a fine for it.

    Stealing tens of thousands of dollars is a jail time issue

    fustigation769curtain ,

    It’s still a crime, which makes you a criminal.

    iopq ,

    Okay, let’s concede I’m a criminal. I’m not a thief, though

    fustigation769curtain ,

    Who cares, though?

    iopq ,

    Unpopular opinion: being a thief is bad

    fustigation769curtain ,

    Depends on who you’re stealing from.

    I don’t think you’re capable of understanding this, though.

    JCreazy ,

    There it is. She got greedy. If she would have just minded her own business and not told anyone and kept it on the down low it would have probably never been figured out. Regardless, this is 100%. The business is responsibility and should not be blamed on anyone else.

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