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JimSamtanko , in Oklahoma public schools leader orders schools to incorporate Bible instruction

Soooooo…. They’re just going to run right past separation of church and state and dive headlong straight into Christofascism….

Right in front of everyone watching, knowing there is nothing anyone will do about it.

Omegamanthethird OP ,
@Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world avatar

It’s probably going to SCOTUS and it’s probably getting shot down (although who tf knows anymore). The big point for them is to embolden their base.

JimSamtanko ,

Yup.

AFKBRBChocolate , in How to watch the first US Presidential Debate 2024 online: free live streams available

Oh my god, Trump just said “I’ve never seen anybody lie like this guy” and he wasn’t pointing at himself.

Wahots ,
@Wahots@pawb.social avatar

I really liked the part where he was trying to assure people that he probably, mayyyybe wouldn’t die in office, and ended by saying “We knock on wood wherever we may have wood” lmfao

AFKBRBChocolate ,

Trump’s lies have gotten so over the top. We’re like two steps away from him saying he was one of the guys who walked on the moon.

And his cult will believe it.

TheAuthor_13 , in Shot in 1.6 seconds: Video raises questions about how trooper avoided charges in Black man's death

Welp, if Butch Cassidy over there can’t be a police person anymore, maybe karma will catch up to him & he’ll catch a hot cop slug in the forehead for no good reason too.

reddig33 , in “Why does Fox News put on so many Biden people?”: Trump rants on Truth Social ahead of debate

A better question: “Why would Biden people even go on Fox News?”

0110010001100010 ,
@0110010001100010@lemmy.world avatar

Also, what exactly are “Biden people?” Are there actually people that are like, hard-core Biden supporters?

foggy ,

I think the Biden people are we who feel we must vote for him in order to prevent total dictatorship, even though he’s a laughably bad candidate.

0110010001100010 ,
@0110010001100010@lemmy.world avatar

I feel called out on some shit, but you aren’t wrong. I don’t like Biden, but I still will vote for him again in November.

TheDemonBuer , in How to watch the first US Presidential Debate 2024 online: free live streams available
@TheDemonBuer@lemmy.world avatar

Why did anyone watch this debate? Were you expecting to learn something new? Are you on the fence and hoping this would help you make up your mind? I mean, the Trump people are going to vote for Trump, and the Biden people are going to vote for Biden, regardless, so it seems like a complete waste of time.

AFKBRBChocolate ,

Everyone is just hoping their guy doesn’t say something that will hurt their campaign. Not sure anyone is happy though.

tiefling ,

Comedy. Tragedy. The very very faint hope that one of them will have a heart attack on air.

rimu , in How to watch the first US Presidential Debate 2024 online: free live streams available
@rimu@piefed.social avatar

Biden stumbled and lost the tread in the opening minutes but is doing well now.

Trump is doing a good job at being Trump. Pretty tired of him ignoring the question and talking about whatever he likes and the moderator letting him.

TheDemonBuer , in Most Americans plan to watch the Biden-Trump debate, and many see high stakes, an AP-NORC poll finds
@TheDemonBuer@lemmy.world avatar

Most Americans plan to watch the Biden-Trump debate

Why?

Alexstarfire ,

IDK. I sure see no reason to. I knew who I was voting for years ago. I wonder how many people are on the fence.

socphoenix , in Gender-affirming surgeries are mostly performed on cisgender people: 'Bitter irony'

Out of the 151 breast reductions that were performed in 2019 on American minors, 146 (97 percent) were performed on cisgender males.

The thing is, growing up in an evangelical church they don’t want these people getting breast reduction surgery either. they firmly believe that any change to the body is going against God’s will regardless of the physical or mental harm it may cause.

FuglyDuck ,
@FuglyDuck@lemmy.world avatar

pretty sure they’re okay with women getting boob implants, though.

socphoenix ,

That one did oddly enough draw less of a stink, though it did still get whispered about when it suited one’s purpose.

bizarroland ,

Idk, the #1 thing people said behind Dolly Parton's back and held against her was that she had fake tits.

FuglyDuck ,
@FuglyDuck@lemmy.world avatar

People are awful. If there’s nothing that they can be mean about, they’ll make shit up. I suspect most of that was more because she was rich/famous/influential in her own right rather than being tied to a husband.

(though she’s married. I looked it up outta curiosity. He doesn’t even have a Wikipedia page…

girlfreddy ,
@girlfreddy@lemmy.ca avatar

Dolly’s husband has never been a part of her public persona. He’s always been in the background and almost everyone has respected his/her choice on the matter.

spujb ,

absolutely true but Dolly Parton did not have to face transphobic harassment and violence

very very very important distinction

friend_of_satan ,

Except male genital mutilation, aka circumcision. (Please don’t take this as me saying FGM and MGM are equally bad. FGM is much, much worse.)

TheBananaKing ,

There are five grades of FGM; MGM is equivalent to hoodectomy, which is grade III.

The worst FGM is much, much worse that MGM, but the least-worst FGM is much less-worse than MGM.

spujb ,

where do you cite this five grade model?

the world health organization is not quite in line with you here (CW, hopefully obvious explicit discussion of mutilation) thanks !

TheBananaKing ,

Hm, it’s been a while since I’ve been active in this space, I’m quoting from memory. I’ll look up some stuff.

spujb ,

ty!

Madrigal ,

There are other forms of MGM too. Fortunately most of them are rare these days. Castration, subincision, penectomy.

And then there’s intersex people. That are routinely subject to “corrective surgery” in infancy. As adults they tend to be firmly of the opinion they should have been left alone and that the surgeries were harmful.

IMO bodily integrity and autonomy is a fundamental human right that should be absolutely respected for every human being.

friend_of_satan ,

thesatanictemple.com/…/there-are-seven-fundamenta…

III One’s body is inviolable, subject to one’s own will alone.

SqueakyBeaver ,

Honestly, that’s only because the Bible says it’s a thing that should be done (apparently)

Silentiea ,
@Silentiea@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

The Hebrew Bible maybe, but it’s pretty clearly outlined by Paul in the new testament that non-jewish Catholics definitely don’t have to follow Jewish custom (and don’t have to be circumcised in particular)

SqueakyBeaver ,

True. It’s been a while, heh.

Silentiea ,
@Silentiea@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

You’re good, I just think it’s worth saying out loud. There’s probably plenty of parents who do think the Bible says it, even though it doesn’t

EleventhHour ,
@EleventhHour@lemmy.world avatar

This appears to be an issue with accurate reporting. Considerations like this would make the data make a lot more sense.

The problem is the interpretation by those running the study.

spujb , (edited )

I’m not sure I am perfectly following you—what should the authors have said?

I am definitely mistakenly misreading you here, sorry for the inconvenience!

(significantly edited to reflect my intent; also if any others could help me out, i don’t mean to bug this person and annoy them)

EleventhHour ,
@EleventhHour@lemmy.world avatar

just because I had something to add doesn’t mean I missed you point.

spujb , (edited )

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  • EleventhHour ,
    @EleventhHour@lemmy.world avatar

    well i am missing your point i guess

    Yes, despite it being very simple and my having explained it clearly…

    sorry

    No, being “confusing and distracting” by muddying the waters was you whole point. You’re clearly arguing in bad faith. It’s just that I called you out.

    Facing the consequences of your actions is not a state of victimhood.

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  • EleventhHour ,
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    Your dissembling changes nothing. It only confirms my claim that you’re arguing in bad faith.

    Thanks for that!

    spujb ,

    ah there’s our miscommunication! i am not arguing anything i just misunderstood at first and offered a possible solution/additional context

    but i was wrong so i issued my apologies and asked for clarification :)

    you stated there was something that was a problem with the reporting, and i inaccurately surmised that it had to do with trans people experiencing hate. what was it in reality?

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  • spujb ,

    i literally don’t know what you are talking about, lol. just asking for clarification because my initial reading was clearly wrong :)

    EleventhHour ,
    @EleventhHour@lemmy.world avatar

    Sealioning

    Sealioning (also sea-lioning and sea lioning) is a type of trolling or harassmentthat consists of pursuing people with relentless requests for evidence, often tangential or previously addressed, while maintaining a pretense of civility and sincerity (“I’m just trying to have a debate”), and feigning ignorance of the subject matter.[1][2][3][4] It may take the form of “incessant, bad-faith invitations to engage in debate”,[5] and has been likened to a denial-of-service attack targeted at human beings.[6] The term originated with a 2014 strip of the webcomic Wondermark by David Malki,[7] which The Independent called “the most apt description of Twitter you’ll ever see”.[8]

    Just asking questions

    Just asking questions (also known as JAQing off, or as emojis: "🤔🤔🤔"[1]) is a way of attempting to make wild accusations acceptable (and hopefully not legally actionable) by framing them as questions rather than statements. It shifts the burden of proof to one’s opponent; rather than laboriously having to prove that all politicians are reptoid scum, one can pull out one single odd piece of evidence and force the opponent to explain why the evidence is wrong.

    The tactic is closely related to loaded questions or leading questions (which are usually employed when using it), Gish Gallops (when asking a huge number of rapid-fire questions without regard for the answers), and Argumentum ad nauseam (when asking the same question over and over in an attempt to overwhelm refutations).

    some_guy ,

    My mother (religious) once told me my tattoos make her sad. There are only two that are visible on a forearm (the third is under my shirt). I told her that they make me feel happy. She’s never brought it up again. But hers is less fervent, still rooted in the same origin.

    FlyingSquid ,
    @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

    I’m guessing that’s because the Bible says no tattoos in the same book where it says not to eat pork and shellfish, but Christians only believe the passages in the Pentateuch if they’re okay with them.

    Bible says no pork, pork is ok.

    Bible says not to be gay in the exact same book, being gay is an abomination unto the lord.

    Silentiea ,
    @Silentiea@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

    What it actually says is not to lay with a man as you would with a woman. It’s not about being gay, it’s about topping!

    spujb ,

    this should hilight to us the outsized effect transphobia has on discourse.

    if we were to believe the line that “we’re just concerned about people getting mutilated” we must naturally expect to see that 97% margin of outrage at breast implants, hair implants, weight management surgery etc. for cis folk.

    and we don’t. here and there you might hear an evangelical getting upsetti spaghetti avout Ozempic et al but transphobic talking points dominate, in vast disproportion to actual individual cases.

    whostosay ,

    Well except for giant fake titties, God wants those. If we can get those on some minors, I’m pretty sure Republicans would shut the fuck up for decades.

    FlyingSquid ,
    @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

    Although they’re usually fine with things like wearing glasses and getting stents. Odd, isn’t it?

    drislands ,

    My mother is fond of saying “God doesn’t make junk”. Easily disproven whether or not you believe in a god, but she’s a “if I don’t like it, it didn’t happen” variety of Trump supporter, so I err on the side of changing the subject over arguing.

    fiercekitten ,

    I’m so sorry you have to deal with that.

    There’s no way I could continue having a relationship with anyone who is a trump supporter.

    drislands ,

    Thank you. It is really difficult. It’s especially hard to find the line. (Un)fortunately for me she’s always been unreasonable per se, so I already had her at arm’s length before Trump flopped onto the scene.

    captainlezbian ,

    Oh they absolutely do. The alternative is men with breasts. They’ll say they don’t, but when the time comes to accept cis men’s bodies when they fall outside “male” expectations they won’t.

    credo , in How to watch the first US Presidential Debate 2024 online: free live streams available

    The poor performance and miserable result of this debate is not an indicator the format is bad, it is an indictment of our media circus that has given us these candidates in the first place.

    This is proof our system is fucked and I hope to god we don’t “fix” this by going back to letting opponents talk all over each other just to put on a good an entertaining show.

    Hello_there ,

    Start an initiative for ranked choice voting

    NotAnotherLemmyUser ,

    I’d rather have “star” or “approval” voting, but I’ll take ranked choice voting over what we’ve currently got.

    foggy ,

    Yep. The only reason these two are candidates is because their names ignite anger, and anger gets people to interact. They sell ad space.

    Krono , in Uvalde grand jury indicts officers tied to botched shooting police response

    Arredondo was taken into custody at the Uvalde County Jail Thursday afternoon, where family members and parents of several victims of the shooting gathered.

    Finally, some good fucking news.

    eldavi ,

    nearly every single higher court in this country (including the supreme court and all of texas’ courts) have upheld police immunity; so they have to know that he would eventually be set free, so i wonder why they’re doing this.

    Zron ,

    Because this is probably the best challenge to qualified immunity that’s ever been available.

    Complete and utter dereliction of duty.

    They even ignored their own department’s procedure on responding to an active shooter, so they can’t argue it wasn’t in their duty to stop the shooter, or they didn’t know how.

    hoshikarakitaridia ,
    @hoshikarakitaridia@lemmy.world avatar

    Which is the only legal remedy you’ll ever get against qualified immunity btw. There has to be a specific procedure for this that has been unmistakenly violated.

    whostosay ,

    There is and was, it resulted in many children and adults dying.

    hoshikarakitaridia ,
    @hoshikarakitaridia@lemmy.world avatar

    It’s devastating that this is one of only a few times cops might actually be held accountable.

    AngryCommieKender ,

    If we can get it to the SCOTUS, they may overturn QI. The law in question got copied wrong when they copied it from the congressional record into the federal register. Had the 1982 court been handed the law as passed, the 16 word clause that got omitted would have caused Harlow v Fitzgerald to go the other way.

    Hand them the original text, and they’ll have to overturn that decision.

    Soggy ,

    This supreme court? I wouldn’t count on it.

    eldavi , (edited ) in This gay veteran spent 2 years in jail because he had sex. He can finally get a pardon.

    i wonder how he feels about having to request a pardon from a president that supported fucking him over more than his sex partner did; i avoided the military and took on permanent-for-life student loan debt (also thanks to biden) because of don’t ask don’t tell and i think i would rather die than ask him for forgiveness.

    mars296 ,

    Ah yes I forgot Joe Biden was president in 1990.

    eldavi , (edited )

    he voted for don’t ask don’t tell and publicly advocated against gays in any sort of federal and government service since the 70’s

    UPDATE: i was thinking defense of marriage act; don’t ask don’t tell was a policy that biden supported but never had the option of voting for.

    stoly ,

    Don’t ask don’t tell was a presidential act.

    eldavi ,

    close enough; but thanks for catching that

    i need to like biden and i need some kind of justification for voting for him besides not being trump and him being complicit in an active genocide.

    WamGams ,

    Trump’s base are the cryptofascists who do not hide the fact that they are coming for the gays.

    Maybe providence didn’t see fit to give you the choice of saving all Palestinian lives, but it certainly seems to be giving you the choice to save your own.

    eldavi , (edited )

    Maybe providence didn’t see fit to give you the choice of saving all Palestinian lives, but it certainly seems to be giving you the choice to save your own.

    holy hyperbole batman!!!

    biden’s past and future actions have and will fuck up my life several times before i die; meanwhile trump has unwittingly helped.

    also biden’s track record of supporting the status quo no matter what, especially when it comes to lgbt issues and human rights; proves that he would also willingly go along with whatever laws that those cryptofacists successfully sustain through congress and the supreme court. (sometimes there are signs that he may have grown a conscience, so i want to be clear: he won’t like it, but he’ll go along with it willingly).

    WamGams ,

    Trump has helped your life as a member of the gay community?

    And you are posting from .ml?

    I’m curious, but on alert.

    eldavi ,

    even a broken clock is right twice a day; but in trump’s case it was only once. lol

    HubertManne ,

    can you be specific about what trump action was helpful to you??? Just for fairness biden has directly helped me with no surprise billing, banning con competes, many infrstructure repairs and improvements in my area that got money from the ombudsman bill, and this one is a bit less direct but rejoining the paris accord was huge for me. So anyway im curious of the trump actions that helped you specifically because from my seat its been squat.

    eldavi ,

    trump’s asshattery at creating trade wars backfired on american companies and that forced them to hire new people including me; that enabled me to move away from austin texas and i’ll be thankful for that for the rest of my life.

    HubertManne ,

    um. thats a lot of dominoes between his action an your result.

    Transporter_Room_3 ,
    @Transporter_Room_3@startrek.website avatar

    Big “as a gay black man” energy.

    eldavi ,

    brown in this case

    whostosay ,

    You’re just a complete fucking idiot, aren’t ya. Make sure that when you see facts, you double down on your dumbassness.

    eldavi ,

    You’re just a complete fucking idiot, aren’t ya. Make sure that when you see facts, you double down on your dumbassness.

    the fact is that he’s enabling a genocide and you’re clearly a psychopath for believing that’s a dumbass issue.

    whostosay ,

    “close enough” is what I was commenting on.

    MindTraveller ,

    He invested hundreds of billions in green energy?

    eldavi , (edited )

    biden’s the only one to invest in green energy afaik and then he turned around a effectively banned truly affordable electric vehicles for around $10k with 100% tariffs; among other things.

    MindTraveller ,

    Interesting. Source?

    eldavi ,

    I’m going to assume that you want a source in the tariffs and not the green initiatives.

    it’s literally a new topic in the news and takes less than 30 seconds on Google to find.

    FlyingSquid ,
    @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

    As W.C. Fields said, “I never vote for anybody, I always vote against.”

    Not being Trump should be enough. Trump literally says he’s going to be a dictator. Based on that alone, ignoring every other point about Trump, you should vote for Biden.

    eldavi ,

    that would probably be enough for me too if biden hadn’t fucked my life 6 times so far; while trump has only accidentally helped.

    FlyingSquid ,
    @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

    I’m sorry, are you actually justifying voting for a dictator?

    eldavi ,

    i’m expounding upon my difficulty in justifying my vote for biden; before the genocide i was going to hold my nose and do it and now i’m no longer sure i can even do that.

    FlyingSquid ,
    @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

    Because Trump won’t continue to aid in that genocide despite already saying he would?

    It’s going to be either Trump or Biden. If you don’t vote for Biden, you risk getting the dictator. That should be a very easy choice for you.

    eldavi ,

    biden is actively enabling a genocide right now and has done something similar for several others in the last few decades as a senator; meanwhile trump has only fantasized about helping a genocide.

    it would be an easier choice it he would just stop helping genociders.

    FlyingSquid ,
    @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

    Again, Trump will be no different on that front. That is simply a non-issue when it comes to which of them to vote for. And, also again, it’s either going to be Trump or Biden.

    eldavi ,

    also again: biden has enabled more genocides than than trump ever has.

    FlyingSquid ,
    @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

    You’re still justifying voting for a dictator over a non-dictator. It should be a simple choice. Either you’re for American fascism or against it. It doesn’t matter what Biden has done. It matters whether or not you want a dictator.

    eldavi , (edited )

    american facism is already here; biden and trump are merely two different flavors of it.

    FlyingSquid ,
    @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

    What a ridiculous thing to say. Biden doesn’t have a plan to put all the migrants into concentration camps or to suppress queer people or anything else in Project 2025’s list of goals, which Trump will implement.

    So either you are not aware of Project 2025 and how it will lead to another genocide, possibly more than one, or you only care about one genocide.

    eldavi ,

    What a ridiculous thing to say. Biden doesn’t have a plan to put all the migrants into concentration camps

    he doesn’t need a plan; he’s currently doubling down on trump’s plan.

    or to suppress queer people or anything else in Project 2025’s list of goals, which Trump will implement.

    biden has advocated for this his entire career and has only made token gestures otherwise to get votes; hyperbolic arguments are moot when you’ve already survived them.

    So either you are not aware of Project 2025 and how it will lead to another genocide, possibly more than one, or you only care about one genocide.

    they don’t have enough time to catch up to biden’s level of enabling genocides before the next election. also most of the other genocides have already been committed so it makes sense to care about the active ones.

    FlyingSquid ,
    @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

    Sorry… most of the genocides have already been committed? Migrants have been rounded up and forcibly deported en masse? Trans people have been forced to go underground? Queer people have been erased from history?

    That’s what you don’t mind happening apparently.

    eldavi , (edited )

    Sorry… most of the genocides have already been committed?

    that biden enabled: yes

    Migrants have been rounded up and forcibly deported en masse?

    biden is doing this right now

    Trans people have been forced to go underground? Queer people have been erased from history?

    biden has advocated doing this for decades and his token gestures have only served to give bigots legal protection for their bigotry.

    That’s what you don’t mind happening apparently.

    that’s why i don’t want to see more by voting for a person with a decades long track record of doing so.

    FlyingSquid ,
    @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

    Biden is doing nothing of the sort and Biden is not doing that to queer people. You’re just lying to provide cover for Trump now.

    eldavi ,

    the immigration thing is literally in the news right now.

    doing anything negative to queer people would make him lose votes with the democratic base, so he doesn’t; just like he’s done in the past.

    i will not vote for trump

    FlyingSquid ,
    @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

    Sorry… you’re arguing that doing nothing to hurt queer people because the base doesn’t want him to is fascism now?

    eldavi ,

    sexual liberation and identity has fallen in and out of favor in american hegemony before and it will happen again; go ahead and keep moving that goal post.

    FlyingSquid ,
    @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

    I don’t have to move a goalpost between ‘genocide’ and ‘not genocide.’ All you’re saying to me here is that the queer genocide candidate that will also support the Palestinian genocide is fine, but the one not participating in a genocide of queer people is bad.

    eldavi ,

    … All you’re saying to me here is that the queer genocide candidate that will also support the Palestinian genocide is fine, but the one not participating in a genocide of queer people is bad.

    I’m not supporting either candidate and there is no queer genocide in the United States nor will there be; speaking in hyperbole makes you seem unhinged and I want to trade ideas w someone who speaks in facts.

    FlyingSquid ,
    @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

    The genocide has already begun. And not by Biden.

    en.wikipedia.org/…/2020s_anti-LGBT_movement_in_th…

    I’m sure you’re aware of those laws being passed.

    Again, it’s just not a genocide that seems to bother you.

    eldavi ,

    Those laws all suck and they’re along the same vein as the laws that Biden had voted for and supported in the past (ie doma, 10450, dadt).

    The definition of genocide is the deliberate killing of a large number of people from a particular group with the aim of destroying that group; and nothing you have shared matches that description.

    FlyingSquid ,
    @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

    The definition of genocide is not that simple. If it were, you must think Palestinian genocide started in 2023. I hope you don’t. That would also suggest that the Trail of Tears was not a genocide. I also hope you are not going to make that argument.

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocide_definitions

    And you already said Biden won’t do anything to oppress queer people because the base doesn’t want him to. So you are saying that not committing genocide is the same as committing genocide while denying genocide. Excellent job. I’m not sure why you won’t admit that queer genocide is just not that big a deal to you because that’s what you keep dancing around.

    eldavi , (edited )

    i got so high earlier tonight that it felt like it was the first time for too brief of a moment.

    i realized that the shit biden put me through sucked and that i wouldn’t wish it on anyone and now i have an infinitesimally small chance of helping make sure that it doesn’t happen to anyone else. plus it helps the progress made last a little bit longer this time around the world’s historical political pendulum. it’s not the right decision, but it’s also not the wrong one… the wrong one will recreate what i had to go through for others.

    i think i need to get high more often; it would be a lot easier to do if sugar free and delicious edibles were a thing.

    catloaf ,

    Trump.enabled Russia’s action in Ukraine, which some would say aims to be genocide as well, and on a larger scale.

    So it’s a choice between genocide, or two genocides and fascism in the US. I know it’s a shit choice, between bad and worse, but one of those two people is going to be elected. Personally I am going to vote against worse.

    bane_killgrind ,

    Yeah but squid, Biden is a bad man!

    ipkpjersi ,

    I’m genuinely scared Trump will win. I don’t even live in USA and I’m scared of it happening. I could totally see Trump pulling out of NATO and then lives being lost because of it.

    FlyingSquid ,
    @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

    I’m scared too. But a lot can happen between now and November and I have to keep reminding myself of that.

    GoddessNoAi ,

    He’s also said that he regrets a lot of that. 🤷🏻‍♀️

    catloaf ,

    I’ll believe him when he starts actually championing those causes and not just giving lip service.

    chiliedogg ,

    I’m sorry for what you had to go through, but we’ve advanced a great deal in the last 30 years with regard to social acceptance of homosexuality. Any time you have rapid progress on any issue, you’ll have people whose position changed dramatically in that time period.

    Those people should be celebrated. Admitting you’ve been entirely wrong on a social and moral issue is very difficult. By continuing to villify those who change their position to join you in the fight you make it more difficult to gather support.

    eldavi , (edited )

    Any time you have rapid progress on any issue, you’ll have people whose position changed dramatically in that time period.

    By continuing to villify those who change their position to join you in the fight you make it more difficult to gather support.

    given his history and his most recent actions: it’s clear he hasn’t changed and that progress is nothing more than transparent attempts to gain votes; as he has always done.

    chiliedogg ,

    Politicinaa adapting their positions to be more in-line with the will of the people in order to secure votes is exactly how representative democracy is supposed to work.

    eldavi ,

    Politicinaa adapting their positions to be more in-line with the will of the people in order to secure votes is exactly how representative democracy is supposed to work.

    which biden will also do, as he has done, if project 2025 manages to succeed.

    FireTower , in How to watch the first US Presidential Debate 2024 online: free live streams available
    @FireTower@lemmy.world avatar

    Key take away: The greatest threat to the winner of the next election is a strong breeze.

    zeroblood , (edited ) in Gender-affirming surgeries are mostly performed on cisgender people: 'Bitter irony'

    Why are so many cis males getting breast reduction surgery tho?

    Edit I didn’t know that many dudes had boobs. Makes sense, thanks :3

    clay_pidgin ,

    Because the alternative is a brossiere.

    GreyEyedGhost ,

    I believe the options were the manssiere or the bro.

    janNatan ,
    cm0002 ,

    I’ve got to get to a damn gym right now

    Iapar ,

    Because of dem tiddis fool.

    Snowclone ,

    Dude, I saw that picture of Elliot Page after he got his breasts removed. He looked HAPPY. Rejuvenated. I want to get rid of mine to. I’ve never wanted gender affirming care as much as I do now as a cis gender man, these guys are getting it done. It’s clearly making them feel better.

    some_guy ,

    Especially when you can get them enlarged! C’mon fellas. Have fun with it.

    Seriously though, I get that this could be terribly embarrassing if you have boobs as a man. I feel bad for kids in gym locker rooms getting teased.

    binomialchicken ,

    Sometimes you just need some round things in your face, even if they are your own

    Silentiea ,
    @Silentiea@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

    Don’t have to tell me twice

    VelvetStorm ,

    Now, imagine how bad it would be if you were a man with breasts and a vagina and woman’s name and you were forced to stay that way. Truly sounds like a nightmare.

    BlameThePeacock ,

    Because they’re overweight and a bunch of the fat ended up there and it makes them unhappy when they look in a mirror.

    Theres a reason most fat males keep their shirts on at the beach.

    Sterile_Technique ,
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    Surgical tech here!

    We do these (breast reduction surgeries on men) every now and then. Not super often… I’ve been in maybe 10 of them? Of the ones I’ve been in, one was a dude with breast cancer - chopped out the cancer, then chopped down the other moob so they’d heal to be the same size. All of the other ones were gym rats who took steroids and grew some boobs. None were overweight.

    I’ve only been in a handful, so grain of salt, but in my experience weight is NOT a factor.

    …and this seems like a good time for a plug: Men can 100% get breast cancer. Not often, but possible. If any of you fellas feel a weird lump in your moobs, DO NOT hesitate to get it checked out!!

    spujb ,

    This is one of the first comments I have seen on lemmy that truly feels like old school reddit. You applied your professional knowledge to that fairly unkind commenter not only to correct them but also to express something many might not know!

    Very cool of you keep it up champ :)

    FlyingSquid ,
    @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

    When I was at the Mayo Clinic in March, I met a couple there, the guy had breast cancer 10 years ago and his wife was in remission for appendix cancer.

    Nachorella ,

    It’s different for everyone, I’m overweight and don’t have tiddies at all, but I’ve seen men who looked like a fairly healthy weight who had noticeable tiddies.

    Samvega ,

    All dudes have boobs. They have nipples and breast tissue. They can lactate (small amounts) and get breast cancer.

    This is because, in mammals, the default sex leans towards more female. An XY-chromosome ‘male’ foetus that doesn’t respond to androgens in the womb will not develop male external genitalia, and will probably be assumed to be female on birth.

    Sex is not binary, because biology isn’t simple. Gender, which is more complex than that, is not, either.

    FlyingSquid ,
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    I believe that male lactation, while possible, is rare.

    Snowclone ,

    Rare cam be a deceptive term, with the current population of the human race ‘one in a million’ is still 8,000 people.

    But also, male lactation, other than infants at birth who have a high exposure to their mother’s hormones, is always a significant medial concern, so it isn’t something that just sometimes happens.

    Samvega ,

    Males are born with breast tissue, hence the fact they can get breast cancer.

    One or more hormones (I assume prolactin is involved) are required to activate lactation.

    knightly ,
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    Prolactin and oxytocin, mostly.

    Gigagoblin ,
    @Gigagoblin@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

    yeah you’re cis alright

    FlyingSquid ,
    @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

    Obviously I meant biologically male, come on. I acknowledge that men can lactate.

    Gigagoblin ,
    @Gigagoblin@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

    no, like, their comment was chock-full of good stuff & that’s what you decide to focus on? apologies for the “no u,” but like, come on.

    FlyingSquid ,
    @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

    What was I supposed to have focused on? Because the person I replied to didn’t think what I said was so beyond the pale.

    Gigagoblin ,
    @Gigagoblin@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

    explaining the joke ruins the joke

    FlyingSquid ,
    @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

    What joke? What on Earth are you talking about? OP didn’t tell a joke. I didn’t respond with a joke. You didn’t respond to me with a joke.

    slackassassin ,

    Those others are all the same, amiright

    Gigagoblin ,
    @Gigagoblin@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

    eat my ass

    slackassassin ,

    Hell ya. Grrr and what not

    JoMiran , in California to make financial literacy classes a requirement to graduate high school
    @JoMiran@lemmy.ml avatar

    We had to take that class on our senior year many, many, many moons ago. Back then they taught us that having a credit card was good though. LOL!

    FeelThePower ,
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    My teacher in 2019 tried to convey this to us in economics class too. But to this day I still refuse.

    iAmTheTot ,

    If you don’t have self control, a credit card is a bad idea. If you do have self control, a credit card can make value for you just by spending on things you were already going to buy.

    feannag ,

    Having a credit card is still generally considered good.

    taiyang ,

    Key word is “a”, as in one.

    Although you generally are solid in 2 to 4 range, the more important thing as it turns out is (aside from prompt payments) to make sure the credit limit is high. Those store cards with 300 limits are looked down upon.

    finestnothing , (edited )

    A big ding to your credit score itself is actually a low amount of lines of credit, I think 10+ is considered “good” which is ridiculous

    Apparently I was wrong, and learned something new today. Your score comes from:
    35% - payment history (everything paid on time, etc)
    30% - amount owed
    15% - age of credit history
    10% - how many new lines of credit
    10% - credit mix (just credit cards vs credit cards, auto loans, etc)

    experian.com/…/what-affects-your-credit-scores/

    IamSparticles ,

    Credit scores don’t measure how responsible with your money you are. They measure how much you’re willing to pay lenders.

    ampersandrew ,
    @ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

    In the US at least, this is false.

    iopq ,

    I have about 10 of them because cancelling is considered bad. I product change to another card when the annual fee hits to avoid it, and generally get a few cards a year to take advantage of bonuses.

    They still keep giving me 5 figure credit limits on every one, for reasons I can’t explain

    jjjalljs ,

    I’m not aware of any harms from using a no-fee credit card that you pay off in full each month. You get 1% - 5% back, and it’s easier to deal with fraudulent charges.

    JoMiran , (edited )
    @JoMiran@lemmy.ml avatar

    If you have a credit card with a $25,000 limit, that limit counts against your total even if you are not using it. For example, if it is determined that you can sustain mortgage debt of a maximum of $400,000 at current interest rates, you will not qualify for that amount because you also have an open credit card with an available balance of $25,000 at a significantly higher interest rate.

    EDIT: You can only decrease what you owe on a loan but a credit card is an open line of credit that you can max out at any time. Because of this, the entire credit line counts against you when evaluating your debt.

    jjjalljs ,

    Do you have a source for this? My understanding was only credit card balances mattered.

    JoMiran , (edited )
    @JoMiran@lemmy.ml avatar

    You can only decrease what you owe on a loan but a credit card is an open line of credit that you can max out at any time. Because of this, the entire credit line counts against you when evaluating your debt. If you have any questions, ask your local bank manager or financial advisor.

    EDIT: By the way, most people also believe that only the outstanding balance is counted.

    iopq ,

    Then decrease your limit, LMAO. It’s not that hard

    JoMiran ,
    @JoMiran@lemmy.ml avatar

    You fully missed the point. If you read comments around credit cards you’ll see that most people don’t understand the impact of credit cards on their ability to borrow. Yes, if you do not need five cards or $25,000 credit limit (or both), then you should absolutely start closing cards and reducing limits. People don’t understand that. They go buy a car and the loan rate is through the roof. They think that is how it is and never imagine that the rate might have been triggered by the three unused credit cards.

    IMHO, you should always have one credit card with a limit just slightly higher than your monthly burn rate. You should use it instead of debit cards, and you should pay it off in full, automatically, every month well before it is due. Only one credit card. Again, just my opinion.

    JoMiran , in Rate of Young Women Getting Sterilized Doubled After ‘Roe’ Was Overturned
    @JoMiran@lemmy.ml avatar

    Dear young men. Get a vasectomy. You don’t want to raise children in a doomed future, plus it might do wonders to your dating profile.

    Sir_Kevin ,

    Best decision of my life!

    minibyte ,

    I got one a month ago. $200 out of pocket. I feel great. Cheapest $200 I’ve ever spent.

    UltraGiGaGigantic ,

    The 1% can make their own wage slaves.

    SleezyDizasta ,

    As it turns out most men and women aren’t weird doomer weirdos who spend a considerable amount of their lives being miserable online. Most people want families, and there’s nothing wrong with that.

    ours ,

    The operation is also much safer and easier for men than women.

    Got mine done during a lunch break and came back to work afterwards. The insurance paid for the whole thing.

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