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FuglyDuck , to aww in Reddit mods claimed my buddy was stuffed
@FuglyDuck@lemmy.world avatar

well, if he’s stuffed, maybe you should stop feeding him so much…

Enasni ,
@Enasni@lemmy.world avatar

I once shared a screenshot from Good Mythical Morning on r/shittyramen and the post got removed. The moderator accused me of being a bot lmao. The reason? Advertising.

They were using GMM labels to explicitly hide brand names. If I recall correctly it was a bottle of generic, vinegar based hot sauce that triggered this person.

I forget which video it was from but it definitely qualified and I thought it was hilarious. That mod really bummed me out.

the_third ,

Imagine being that invested into a job you do for free so Reddit can be somewhat profitable.

FuglyDuck ,
@FuglyDuck@lemmy.world avatar

Imagine being that lonely and that unable to get people to like you on the internet.

Pro tip. Post more foxes…. People like foxes…

AClassyGentleman , to lemmyshitpost in Don't give me a reason to go to Starbucks, damn it!

Alright as someone who has seen this happen… Don’t. Fist off, if the employee doesn’t already know what the benefits of a union are and how to go about organizing one, this does nothing to change that. Second, it puts them in a dangerous position with management. Obviously, any good Union drive should be fully prepared for union busting tactics, but ideally you want to keep that shit secret from management for as long as possible. And imagine how frustrated you’d be if a customer pulling a stunt like this got you fired.

Instead what you want to do is talk to your family, friends, and coworkers about what a union can do for them and talk about how to effectively organize a union drive. Make sure that shit is led by the workers, and puts forward strong demands and escalating tactics. They should also absolutely get community support, but in organized, meaningful ways - think things like mailing lists to get the word out about rallies, boycotts, etc.

Unions are hell of a tool and they should be organized in the most effective possible ways.

PeleSpirit ,

That’s a pretty awful company if the customer can get an employee in trouble for just saying the word.

Kes ,
@Kes@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

It’s Starbucks so yeah. They’re pretty paranoid about unions after a few locations unionized

Rakonat ,

One of many, many reason I do not step foot in one or give them my money. I know everyone has to earn a living somehow, but can’t support that place.

Redderthanmisty ,

Starbucks has been known to shut down entire stores if they got even a whiff of a unionization attempt.

KIM_JONG_JUICEBOX ,
@KIM_JONG_JUICEBOX@lemmy.ml avatar

Next they’ll start running people over with tanks.

PeleSpirit ,

Oh I know, I’m in Seattle and have seen it. But a customer just making you say the word? That’s ridiculous.

Semi-Hemi-Demigod , to technology in It has begun !!! Now we need passwords for each other !!
@Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social avatar

This was common advice for parents in the 80s and 90s. If someone had to pick me up from school unexpectedly my parents gave them a code word to tell me to let me know it wasn't a child abduction

djmarcone ,

according to the TV, child adoption is just an anti-semitic Qanon-adjacent conspiracy theory. No need for passwords! yay!

TheRtRevKaiser , to funny in This would get me to actually watch a remake
@TheRtRevKaiser@sh.itjust.works avatar

There’s a conversation starter that has popped up in a couple of my friend groups that is similar to this, basically “what movies would be improved by all but one actor being replaced by muppets?” My answer has consistently been Face/Off with Nic Cage as the only human actor. I even threw a poster together…

https://sh.itjust.works/pictrs/image/19033d8d-d2cc-43ae-997d-d77ab73dd098.jpeg

The_Picard_Maneuver OP ,
@The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world avatar

This is incredible

whoisearth ,
@whoisearth@lemmy.ca avatar

Cage playing Gonzo would be magical

Etterra ,

Best. Movie. Ever.

Tar_alcaran , to memes in Nuclear isn't perfect, but it is the best we have right now.

Hi, I work in waste handling, and I would like to tell you about dangerous materials and what we do with them.

There are whole hosts of chemicals that are extremely dangerous, but let’s stick with just cyanide, which comes from coal coking, steel making, gold mining and a dozen chemical synthesis processes.

Just like nuclear waste, there is no solution for this. We can’t make it go away, and unlike nuclear waste, it doesn’t get less dangerous with time. So, why isn’t anyone constantly bringing up cyanide waste when talking about gold or steel or Radiopharmaceuticals? Well, that’s because we already have a solution, just not “forever”.

Cyanide waste, and massive amounts of other hazardous materials, are simply stored in monitored facilities. Imagine a landfill wrapped in plastic and drainage, or a building or cellar with similar measures and someone just watches it. Forever. You can even do stuff like build a golfcourse on it, or malls, or whatever.

There are tens of thousands of these facilities worldwide, and nobody gives a solitary fuck about them. It’s a system that works fine, but the second someone suggests we do the same with nuclear waste, which is actually less dangerous than a great many types of chemical waste, people freak out about it not lasting forever.

EisFrei ,

www.atsdr.cdc.gov/toxguides/toxguide-8.pdf

I didn’t know that before but it appears cyanide does have a half-life that is a fraction of nuclear waste.

That doesn’t make it or the other compounds less dangerous, of course.

Tar_alcaran ,

That’s uhh, not what that says. One of the two mentions of half life are your body converting cyanide into thiocyanate, which will kill you and depending on your last bowel movement, make your corpse into hazardous waste itself.

The other mention is hydrogen cyanide in air, which is lighter than air and will decompose back into cyanide eventually, scattering it over a large area. Which will technically make it go away from your site, but spreading toxic waste over the countryside is illegal for a reason.

EisFrei ,

Most cyanide in surface water will form hydrogen cyanide and evaporate.

As long as it has a surface to evaporate, it will degenerate.

Tar_alcaran , (edited )

Oh yeah, you could totally just leave it in a giant pool and ignore it. It’ll react, evaporate and eventually break down into cyanide again, rain down, subtly poison the area, react again, evaporate again, etc.

And that’s great for the owner of the big pool of cyanide, and very bad for everyone else. Stuff that evaporates doesn’t disappear, the cyanide doesn’t magically change into cookiedough. You’re just spreading it around more.

EisFrei ,

Hydrogen cyanide will turn into “cookie dough” in 1-5 years. Which is way shorter than “forever”.

The way you said it in your first comment made it seem longer lasting than radioactive waste. Which it isn’t according to the linked PDF. That is the only point I was trying to make.

nickwitha_k ,

… Hydrogen cyanide is literally what has been used to execute people in gas chambers and genocide during the Holocaust. The LC(Lo), the lowest recorded lethal concentration is 107ppm, resulting in death in 10 minutes. That’s, objectively, far more dangerous than the respective material that firefighters were exposed to at Chernobyl. You don’t want that in any appreciable quantity in the air around people that you want to continue living.

Valmond ,

Yeah but how is the Kremlin going to control us with their gas & oil if we have nuclear?

Checkmate uh pro democratic people I guess?

DadVolante ,
@DadVolante@sh.itjust.works avatar

They have more uranium than we do

veganpizza69 ,
@veganpizza69@lemmy.world avatar
anachronist ,

As a friend once said “benzene is what anti-nuclear people think nuclear waste is.”

Tar_alcaran ,

I mean, spent fuel is actually quite lethal when not packaged, but you get something like 300-400MWh out of a kilo of fuel. And that’s significantly more than I’ll use in my lifetime.

I’d gladly keep a kilo of dry-casked spent fuel in my house. It’d make an excellent coffee table or something, if a bit hard to move. I would absolutely not put a lifetime supply of benzene anywhere near my house.

Edit: it would make a shitty coffee table. 1 kilo of uranium oxide is just under 100ml

YtA4QCam2A9j7EfTgHrH ,

The density of uranium always fucks with me. How can something that takes up so little volume weigh so much?

StupidBrotherInLaw ,

It’s thicc.

oo1 ,

phat nucleasss

uis ,
nondescripthandle ,

Cyanide is used extensively in precious metal recycling too. So even reclaiming resources has a harsh chemical cost. Meeting workers from there I was surprised to say the least about how ‘casually’ they work with Cyanide. Clearly they have safty protocall but nothing like what I imagined something like Cyanide would call for.

Tar_alcaran ,

In addition to hazardous materials regulations, I also do workplace safety, and this doesn’t surprise me at aaaaall. People get really casual around stuff that kills you slowly.

kaffiene ,

Curious to hear you say this. I live in NZ and cyanide waste is always raised as an objection to gold mining.

Tar_alcaran ,

An unfortunate reality is that while we CAN store things safely, that doesn’t mean they always will be.

someguy3 , to lemmyshitpost in His neighbors live in constant terror

See this is the superiority of the metric system. You say a 0.112 km loop and you know that’s a 112 m loop. Say 0.07 miles and thefuckisthatonanyotherscale.

hemko ,

Yeah decimal inches/miles/whatever is probably the worst crime of the system.

prowess2956 ,

It does sound pretty impressive that each loop is 4,435.2 inches

suction ,

it’s 11.5 stone

makingStuffForFun ,
@makingStuffForFun@lemmy.ml avatar

Equivalent to 14 winter parsnips. If we want to get accurate about it.

lauha ,

That’s 70 millimiles obviously. How is that different to metric?

Sorry, am european. I know fuck all about imperial units.

benedikt ,

Easy. You open einheiten.quadrivium.de go with distance 0.07 miles and you see its 3.8 blue whales…

Lets_Eat_Grandma ,

0.07 Landmeile = 1.4 Megapapierdicke

snooggums , to lemmyshitpost in 1 gone. who's next?
@snooggums@midwest.social avatar

Top left isn’t gone.

They surrendered.

Ensign_Crab ,

There’s two confederate flags, then?

snooggums ,
@snooggums@midwest.social avatar

👍

strawberry ,

oh I thought that was the fr*nch flag

octopus_ink ,

LOL we’d be the CSA now if the confederacy’s record was anywhere near as good as the French. I’ve got a pile of laundry in the basement that’s been there longer than the entire duration of the confederacy.

strawberry ,

hasn't the mcrib been around longer than the confederacy?

octopus_ink ,

Confederacy: 1861-1865

McRib: 1981-present.

😆

funkless_eck ,

I really have no idea why Americans bash the French so much for this - and I say this as an English man. We don’t blame the Jews for the Holocaust, why blame the French for being over run by the Nazis?

strawberry ,

ngl this is not some thought out thing I see French surrender meme I play along

psy32nd OP ,

“Surrendering in a warfare” is exactly “being beaten”. So gone.

TheLorax ,
@TheLorax@sh.itjust.works avatar

The French were not “gone” from France when they surrendered. Beaten ≠ gone

Tja ,

They’re just French

Semi-Hemi-Demigod ,
@Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social avatar

Maybe they’re Neutrals

snooggums ,
@snooggums@midwest.social avatar

Neutrals have a gray flag.

UnderpantsWeevil ,
@UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

Tell my wife I said hello

Maggoty , to aboringdystopia in Poignant post on the state of things

This seems like a good place to post this reminder that in the last 50 years income has lost to inflation by 137 points. That’s decades of prices rising faster than wages. It’s not rocket science. They walked away with all of the productivity gains, and gave the entire country a pay cut at the same time. You want a boring dystopia? How about stealing your paycheck a couple percentage points a year until suddenly we realize we can’t afford to live without 3 full time incomes in one household.

WaxedWookie ,

Where I’m from, the median house price has risen 600% relative to the median income in the past 50 years.

That means the deposit we pay today is the equivalent of the entire 30 year mortgage of the people calling you lazy.

Maggoty ,

Yup, the 137 points is just “core” inflation. Education, Housing, Food, and Cars all come in over that. Which is fine because those aren’t necessary in the US right?

mods_are_assholes ,

And yet nearly anyone IRL you point this out to spouts some form of free market propaganda bullshit.

merc ,

When houses cost twice a person’s salary there were no 30 year mortgages.

WaxedWookie ,

True - that’s been the response to pricing getting out of control rather than addressing the fundamental issues with the economy.

KevonLooney ,

Inflation isn’t prices growing faster than wages, it’s just prices growing in general. Don’t let anyone tell you that gentle inflation is bad for poor people.

Debtors gain from inflation because they pay their fixed debts with currency worth less. When interest rates are low, refinance or borrow at low fixed rates. When inflation rises, your fixed debt costs go down in real terms.

If you want wages to increase, support a higher minimum wage.

Maggoty ,

This isn’t just inflation over 50 years. This is divergence in the inflation of wages and core inflation. So prices over all have risen by 137 points more than wages have risen. This isn’t the talk about inflation vs deflation vs death spirals. This is everything slowly becoming less affordable over time. And it really doesn’t matter if the money is worth less when the interest rate on the loan is far beyond inflation in the first place. You either pay it back quickly (monthly on a card) or watch it spiral out of control rapidly because adjustable rate loans work off of inflation and your wages didn’t go up to match. So now you have that much less money a month to buy food.

Theoretically inflation is good for borrowers. In practice you need a certain base of money for that to be true. If you can’t cover increased costs over the life of the loan then inflation is going to take you behind the shed.

TengoDosVacas ,

Without violent pushback there is no reason at all to improve things. Cant afford to live?.. fuck you, we’ll find someone who can. Piss off, peasant.

Maggoty ,

We could do a general strike.

mods_are_assholes ,

All we would need is 3 days of a general strike with at least 10% participation.

But unfortunately there are several factors that prevent this, some human nature, some deliberately manufactured.

  1. Almost no one I know can afford missing a week’s worth of work: This is manufactured with stagflation and at-will work laws
  2. The rich inflaming radical partisanship with traditional and social media to distract from who the real enemy is, reducing social cooperation
  3. American culture has become largely an ‘observer culture’, where the world is treated as a thing to passively watch while feeling disconnected, this is probably the worst contributor.

So many of the labor movement gains our forefathers bled and died for have been trampled by an owner class hell bent on recapitulating european nobility on American soil and they have been WILDLY successful the last 30 years.

Either we organize a general strike, or there will be food riots within a decade.

Saurok ,

Shawn Fain (United Auto Workers president) has been calling for unions across every industry to align their contracts to end at the same time on May 1st, 2028 (International Labor Day), specifically so that we can prepare for a general strike. Gives the already organized unions time to build up a strike fund and non-organized folks time to get organized.

mods_are_assholes ,

If there was an IT workers union with presence in my state I would absolutely do the same, though to be fair I could probably just take a week off that might not end until the owner class comes humble to the table.

Saurok ,

Might be worth your while to look into Locals in your area that aren’t necessarily IT focused unions. Some unions (like the Teamsters and others) will still help you organize under their union even though they typically represent workers in a specific industry. I don’t have an office workers union local in my neck of the woods, but I’ve been giving it some thought as well.

TengoDosVacas ,

People who can’t afford three days off work will certainly fare well by not participating in a general strike.

/S

mods_are_assholes ,

If I had never sold or lost a single bitcoin I mined I could afford to pay for a few thousand people to cover the costs, even more for the most needed protesters, the fast food workers. If I were a billionaire I would literally break my fortune to pay for every fast food worker in the U.S. (in their pockets, to be clear) to take a week off.

I would live on ramen and burning newspaper for warmth if it would guarantee that even 5% of the fast food and restaurant workforce took off for a week.

bartolomeo ,
@bartolomeo@suppo.fi avatar

137 points

What’s a point?

Brainsploosh ,

One percent relative what the market was at the starting point.

The market today is 237 % of starting point (probably 1990).

obinice ,
@obinice@lemmy.world avatar

gave the entire country a pay cut

Entire country? Which country? We’re talking about our whole western civilisation.

Maggoty ,

The data I’m using is for the US.

JohnnyCanuck , to programmerhumor in STOP WRITING C
@JohnnyCanuck@lemmy.ca avatar

What language was that jpeg compression written in?

VieuxQueb ,
@VieuxQueb@lemmy.ca avatar

You ever heard of lossless compression? Well they developed lossfull anti compression, it compresses and decompresses the images so many times that the added artifacts create a larger file than original ! Impressive ain’t it?

lseif ,

we do live in the future

Gilles_D ,

Impressive

Hadriscus ,

and the Nobel goes to some nerd playing with electrons. Unbelievable

billwashere ,

Potato

jaybone ,

YOU WERE NEVER MEANT TO ACCESS STARCH DIRECTLY

MonkderZweite ,
MadMadBunny ,

… D?

Da_wud , to memes in Dont be fooled by cable news

This is literally the point of The Boys. What if normal greedy people held the power, what would that look like if they were superpowered.

Sanctus ,
@Sanctus@lemmy.world avatar

They do hold the power tho

Anticorp ,

Even in The Boys, the real evil came from their corporate overlords.

Alsephina ,

More specifically capitalism. Pretty good show.

SpaceNoodle , to mildlyinteresting in Pudding used to come in cans

And now they come in disposable plastic that’s poisoning the entire biosphere. Progress!

lurch ,

toothpaste used to come in metal tubes too. not even long ago. it’s like they saw everyone else was polluting and they wanted in too smh

argh_another_username ,

Nivea Cream used to come in aluminum cans, then they changed to plastic. Recently they announced that they would come back to aluminum. We can still buy in plastic, though. I think it depends on the market.

Mamertine ,

Not only that, they advertised recycling to push public opinion that it was okay to switch to plastic, because plastic is recyclable. But they didn’t tell us, it’s never going to be economicaly viable to recycle plastic toothpaste tubes.

rigatti ,
@rigatti@lemmy.world avatar

It’s not economically viable and you can only make lesser quality plastic out of it.

yacht_boy ,

Yeah, but those metal tubes were awful. I have been brushing my teeth with Tom’s of Maine for decades, and I remember how much I hated those metal tubes. They always split open weeks before the tube was empty and then they’d leak and make a mess and I inevitably wasted a lot of product. When Tom finally sold to whatever corp and they switched over to the plastic tubes that don’t leak and let me use all the toothpaste I paid for, I danced a little jig.

oatscoop ,

Your comment made me have a flashback to my dad getting irritated at me for squeezing the middle of the toothpaste tube.

You’re only supposed to squeeze the far end of a metal tube – pushing product from the very end to the opening. Then as it gets empty you fold/roll up the flat bit at the end. You can even even buy “wringers” designed to assist with that.

mastefetri ,

This is why we need a plastic tax. If it was even slightly more expensive to use plastic they would switch back to metal or glass in a heartbeat.

corsicanguppy ,

You mean plastic coated tin for the metal option.

It’s baby-food glass jars or plastic somewhere.

dual_sport_dork ,
@dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world avatar

Correct. The steel cans are lined with plastic. Aluminum cans are as well for some products.

MaxVoltage ,
@MaxVoltage@lemmy.world avatar

nah mate its always been HOME MADE what are you on about yall don’t have a pudding sock?

SpaceNoodle ,

I have a clootie, that’s pretty close

AA5B ,

But it’s not that simple. Back then no one recycled the can and all too many wouldn’t now. The can itself was heavier and not as effective. Plastic truly is a wonder material for packaging / it does a better job of keeping things fresh, is more convenient, and saving that weight, saving the energy going into making a can, saving the weight for shipping, is all a benefit of a plastic. We don’t have anything that works nearly as well

We all need to face the idea that convenience items like pudding probably shouldn’t be sold at all, especially with how easy instant pudding is

yacht_boy ,

The group think around here is so crazy. Should we be using less single use plastic, especially the thin films? Absolutely. But the environmental impacts of mining all that metal and making all that glass to replace plastic with, plus the added energy for transporting the heavier packages and the cost of increased spoilage and product lost to dented cans and broken bottles, dwarfs the negative impact of the plastic replacements.

AA5B ,

Also, I haven’t seen enough research on where environmental plastic comes from. While they’re are some benefits to just using less plastics, less packaging where we can, it would be much better to focus on the larger sources

Realistically what I’ve seen for larger sources of microplastics is:

  • industrial waste
  • tire dust
  • clothing

I already have a lint trap on my washer outlet and see there are a few filters meant to trap much of the manmade fibers that come off in the wash, to dispose of in the trash rather than back into the environment with treated wastewater. I have no idea whether that would actually be helpful but the filters aren’t that expensive, and it’s one of the few options under my control.

Increased standards on industrial waste cleanup are always a good idea. However a lot of this may be in undeveloped countries

If laundry is a significant source of micro plastics in the environment, we need to figure that out and add filters or something

We really really need to figure out something with tire dust, since it will continue to get worse as more people can afford personal transportation. I did read one article about filtering runoff near roads making a big difference but it was light on details and I’ve only seen something like that once

yacht_boy ,

I actually work in the wastewater industry and from what I’m reading, a properly functioning sewage treatment plant already captures a very high proportion of microplastics. This widely cited study noted above 98% removal efficiency at one plant.

We’re already at approaching 2 log (99%) removal without actually trying to. It doesn’t seem improbable to me that with a few relatively modest tweaks to the system we could get 3 log removal (99.9%). Getting to 4 or 5 log removal is likely where things will get really expensive and challenging. But for now, a 2-3 log removal is probably good enough to focus on other sources like tire fragments/dust that typically pass directly to receiving waters with no treatment at all.

AA5B ,

Good to know, thanks. While I don’t know how my system does with this , the treatment facility is new-ish and was supposed to be state of the art.

But then we’re back to needing to know more about the sources of environmental microplastics, then figure out how to cut them

bitwolf ,

I wonder how well PLA would work for food storage. I learned it’s made with beets and can break down very quickly.

lowleveldata , to memes in Standards shouldn't be behind a paywall

A space is more problematic than a T tho

qaz OP ,

Skill issue

lowleveldata ,

For a skilled pro like you I suggest using epoch time for everything

datelmd5sum ,

Cassandra uses epoch milliseconds for timestamping snapshots. This means that each node will have a different name for the same snapshot. Trivially solved with truncating the timestamp with * wildcard, but just… why?

Transporter_Room_3 ,
@Transporter_Room_3@startrek.website avatar

Any other day I’d see this get laughs, but I guess people are bitchier this time of day.

I’d write down the ISO timecode I’m talking about, but I can’t afford it.

evil_ostrich , to lemmyshitpost in My children will refer to me as father.
@evil_ostrich@lemmy.world avatar

My daughter calls me Daddio.

It’s pretty fucking awesome.

rmuk ,

It’s only cool if you look like that guy from the Iron Giant.

Everythingispenguins ,

Sounds like she is one cool cat.

3ntranced ,

Slide me some skin daddio

havokdj ,

sus

Fedizen ,

Hopefully you’ve given her a proper hat and a pack of cigs because she’s so cool

Dragon_Titan ,

I like Pops

DingoBilly , to mildlyinfuriating in Why do all the new TVs expect me to have a platform AS WIDE as the fucking thing?? Fucking shit!! God awful absolutely dumb thoughtless design choice

OP blaming their shitty decisions on others. Why are you buying something without knowing its dimensions?

Fuck I hate people like this. The answer btw is pretty obvious. From a weight distribution perspective it’s easiest to have two feet as wide apart as possible.

_number8_ OP ,

well good thing they’re a professional company with professional engineers, glad they’re taking the easy route

i bought it because i was at the store and thought ‘damn a bedroom tv would be nice’ and it was black friday. it’s only 32" i hope it fits on the table, and if not i can rig something up, but either way, god fucking dammit these new legs are terrible design because now i have to think about this instead of them just having a damn stand in the center like everyone used to

was sort of what i was thinking

ikidd ,
@ikidd@lemmy.world avatar

So take it back? If you put it back in the packaging and said “hey, this doesn’t fit where I want it”, they should take it back. I’ve never dealt with a store that wouldn’t.

I could see this if you ordered it online, sight unseen. Like, if the website were text-based and had no pictures and the description was “It’s a TV”. But you were at a physical store…

slackassassin ,

Feels like everyone is taking this a little too seriously for something mildy infuriating.

Surely, op is capable of solving this minor issue, which is why they rolled the dice that it might fit.

Tuss ,

He knew the dimensions of the place where the TV was supposed to go.

He went to the store, saw the TV, he saw the box with a picture of it.

So he brought it home, unpacked it, placed it where it was obviously not going to be able to go.

Then he plugged it in and turned it on.

And instead of just putting it back in its packaging and bringing it back to the store and admit defeat. Or order a new piece of furniture Amazkea.

He instead went on here to fucking complain.

slackassassin ,

They gambled on an eyeball measurement from memory and lost. It’s not that deep.

They don’t need to return it because it can still be mounted on a stand or wall. And maybe they want to watch crooked Netflix in the meantime.

…And they complained on mildly infuriating, which seems appropriate because it’s not that big of a deal.

intensely_human ,

Actually it’s been a design standard for a long time for screens to have a single pedestal support in the center. It’s reasonable for OP to buy a TV without checking because until recently these side legs wouldn’t have existed.

starman2112 ,
@starman2112@sh.itjust.works avatar

Both me and my flatmate got new TVs to replace our decade+ old ones. Cannot find a single 40+ inch TV within our price ranges that comes with a center stand, it’s all feet. It’s a shame, we liked having our TVs sitting next to each other in the living room to play pseudosplitscreen video games, but now they don’t fit.

Globulart , (edited )

Have you considered buying one with feet and spending $30 on a vesa stand to solve the issue?

starman2112 ,
@starman2112@sh.itjust.works avatar

Before this thread, I’d never heard of them, but I fully plan on buying two of them within the next week

Globulart ,

Nice :)

snausagesinablanket ,
@snausagesinablanket@lemmy.world avatar

All he needs is a small piece of plywood for $5 to fix this.

nxdefiant ,

$18 on Amazon, more adjustable than any stand that could possibly be included in the box:

www.amazon.com/…/B07SHFPD8S

bandario ,
@bandario@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

This would involve successfully finding a wall stud to install on and the use of power tools. With the information OP has revealed about themselves, that seems like a recipe for a broken TV and half a wall ripped out or a trip to the ER. Of course it will be the fault of the drill manufacturer and they might sue.

CurlyMoustache ,
@CurlyMoustache@lemmy.world avatar

Then you should stop thinking

krakenx ,

I have the same TV and built a custom stand for it. Doesn’t change the fact that the included stand is a bad design.

DingoBilly ,

This is not bad design, it’s just common sense.

People are way too entitled is the problem and assume that their bad planning/thinking automatically means something is badly designed. Blame anyone but themselves.

krakenx , (edited )

Do you actually own the TV or one with that same stand? 3/3 people I know, plus OP had to do something extra to make that stand work. That’s bad design. Maybe not for the bottom line of the company, but definitely for the customer.

Functionally the stand is garbage too even if you do have a massive surface. It’s not at all adjustable and it can easily damage your table if it shifts at all.

But I guess, expecting a product to work out of the box without third party add-ons like a VESA stand or needing to cut grooves in a wooden block to keep it from toppling over is “entitled” now.

DingoBilly ,

You’re using anecdotes to back up your experience which is never a good sign.

This is a fairly basic TV stand design. If you honestly know 4 people who’ve struggled with this then I’m not sure what to tell you. Personally I’ve never heard of anyone have a problem with their TV stand. I myself have a central stand and it’s pretty bulky/annoying itself and wouldn’t fit on many smaller tables. But if you have an appropriate TV stand it’s fine.

So yeah, I do think it’s entitled that people expect every TV manufactured to magically work on their specific table, and if it doesn’t it’s badly designed. Put another way, why don’t you look up some reviews of this TV and see how many people rate it highly vs complain about the stand? When I looked at similar designs they were very highly rated, so at least for the majority of people it’s well designed and acknowledging you cannot have a single design that works for everyone.

OP in his post said he saw it in person so they even knew what they were buying and could easily measure it. I don’t know how they can honestly go back and say it’s badly designed and doesn’t fit their table when they literally saw how it was designed and could have easily measured it out if they chose to.

freeindv ,

Personally I’ve never heard of anyone have a problem with their TV stand. I myself have a central stand and it’s pretty bulky/annoying itself and wouldn’t fit on many smaller tables. But if you have an appropriate TV stand it’s fine.

You’re using anecdotes to back up your experience which is never a good sign.

JaxNakamura ,

I disagree that it is bad design. It’s cheap and I also find it ugly, but it does get the job done just fine.

starman2112 ,
@starman2112@sh.itjust.works avatar

People are allowed to complain about annoying widespread design standards

DingoBilly ,

This is not bad design, it’s just common sense.

People are way too entitled is the problem and assume that their bad planning/thinking automatically means something is badly designed. Blame anyone but themselves.

Globulart , (edited )

People very upset that a company which exists to make money has used the cheaper option for the part of a TV that 80% of buyers will leave in the box anyway.

I saw a comment suggesting that it must only be $5 to add a proper stand. TCL made 30million TVs last year so that’s a substantial bonus for whoever made that choice.

Breaking news! Budget TV has budget parts!

magnusrufus ,

Most TV’s don’t list the width on the feet on the packaging do they?

DingoBilly ,

I looked up the shittiest TV brand available at my local electronics store and yeah, they do list the width with and without stands.

And if you plan on putting your TV on a table that is way too small, then I’d double check where the stands sit exactly, because it’s not a design problem but a you problem.

People need to stop blaming their shitty planning on “bad design”. It’s the most common sense design that will work in most cases.

Next you’ll have the guy who puts their TV on two separate chairs complain about the bad design of TV’s that only have a single stand in the middle ffs.

magnusrufus ,

Weird. The last three TVs I bought didn’t have the foot width listed on the box.

clegko ,
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I just found what I believe is the same TV OP bought and it doesn’t list the stand width. www.bestbuy.com/site/…/6538141.p?skuId=6538141

A number of other budget TV brands I checked don’t have it listed, either - including a Fire TV from Amazon. www.amazon.com/…/ref=sr_1_

magnusrufus ,

That’s been my experience. It’s weird seeing people get so angry at op over the assumption that op ignored fundamental information that is so often omitted by the manufacturers.

clegko ,
@clegko@lemmy.world avatar

Exactly my thought. Makes this place seem toxic as fuck.

HaywardT ,

This is the most controversial post on Lemmy 4 months later.

FriedCheese ,

Tbf, sometimes the measurements are iffy. I bought a 55 inch TV that fits comfortably on my TV table. The TV had some issues so I went through a return with the manufacturer and they didn’t have my specific TV in my size so they offered a 65 inch. I asked them if the measurements for the stand were the same and they read off the same distance as the 55 inch. I thought great! It will fit.

TV arrives and the stand legs were just an inch short on either side of the table, definitely not the same! But it still fit. I ended up securing the TV with those child straps just in case and plan to replace the table eventually.

Can’t wall mount at the moment because of spacing issues but eventually will.

I had a similar issue with a monitor, the stand leg distance was listed but not the fact that it’s width is half my desk. It doesn’t help that some stores and manufacturers don’t have a standardized list either.

freeindv ,

“weight distribution”… They weight practically nothing, and even old heavy ass CRTs sat on narrow platform mounts

DingoBilly ,

Well I guess they just so it to annoy people then. There’s no other reasons why they’d do this right?

freeindv ,

Cost cutting. When huge TVs only cost a few hundred dollars and everything else has gotten super expensive, they have to cut corners

DingoBilly ,

Why is it cutting corners though?

Ideally you’d have the option for both a central stand and the two sides in the one box, but then that’s being wasteful and bad for the environment.

There really isn’t a good option here. In that case I’d say it’s on the consumer to figure out beforehand what the stand is and decide whether they like it or not, not on the company to magically know what stand the consumer needs.

Many companies do shitty things but this stand issue really is a non-issue.

freeindv ,

Make center stands great again

DingoBilly ,

Yes and then we can have other mildly infuriating posts about this from the other side - why does my TV have a shitty central stand when it could just have two stands on the side? Clearly bad design.

freeindv ,

Nobody ever complained about center stands

naught , to cat in My beautiful cat ran out of luck

Im sorry for your loss. If you all want your cats to live long and healthy lives, please keep them inside.

RootBeerGuy ,
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Look man, I know you are right but there are times to bring this up and times to keep it to yourself. Like when someone just lost their pet is a clear category #2 case.

Cethin ,

I disagree. If it’s in person one-to-one, you’re correct. Online it may help someone else. The OP isn’t the only one in this thread obviously.

littlebifi OP ,

Thank you for your thoughtfulness. I posted the story behind the picture despite knowing there will be critics.

naught ,

I know, I really debated posting. It makes me immensely upset to see things like this and my immediate reaction was FAR more visceral. I feel for OP regardless of how I feel about their responsibility in the situation.

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