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aeronmelon , in Boeing and Airbus may have used 'counterfeit' titanium in planes, FAA says

At this point, if you told me that the Made in America logo on all the planes can be scratched off and it says Made in Myanmar underneath, I would absolutely not be surprised.

Buelldozer ,
@Buelldozer@lemmy.today avatar

This one got at least Airbus and Spirit as well and it’s quite possible that it’s related to the CFM / AOG Technics debacle out of the UK last year.

reuters.com/…/engine-maker-cfm-says-up-96-planes-…

girlfreddy ,
@girlfreddy@lemmy.ca avatar

CFM56 engines power the previous generation of Boeing 737s and about half the previous generation of Airbus A320s. These are gradually being upgraded but thousands remain in service.

The CFM56 is also used on Boeing P-8 maritime patrol planes sold to the United States and Britain, while the GE-built CF6 powers Boeing KC-767A tankers sold to Italy and Japan.

If you’re right that’s a big pile of doo-doo that’s gonna hit Boeing hard.

ChickenLadyLovesLife ,

If you’re right that’s a big pile of doo-doo that’s gonna hit Boeing hard.

Damn, Boeing is really going to have to start offing a lot more whistleblowers.

BingBong ,

Would this hot Boeing though or would that be tangential to GE whom actually builds the engines?

AmbiguousProps ,

This seems to only affect the A220, if Airbus is to be believed.

tal , (edited )
@tal@lemmy.today avatar

I don’t think that it’s Myanmar here. Maybe China.

en.wikipedia.org/…/Titanium_production_by_country

For titanium processing, this has global production in 2021 of 210,000 metric tons.

  1. China: 120,000
  2. Japan: 35,000
  3. Russia: 27,000
  4. Kazakhstan: 16,000
  5. Ukraine: 5,400
  6. Saudi Arabia: 3,700
  7. India: 250

For ore reserves:

statista.com/…/reserves-titanium-minerals-worldwi…

  1. China
  2. Australia
  3. India
  4. Canada
  5. Brazil
  6. Norway
  7. South Africa
  8. Mozambique
  9. Madagascar
  10. Ukraine
  11. United States

EDIT: Yeah, apparently it was China:

www.msn.com/en-my/news/other/…/ar-BB1ofaLP

Boeing and Airbus planes constructed with ‘fake’ Chinese titanium

linearchaos ,
@linearchaos@lemmy.world avatar

Made in America sourced from global parts.

Also the biggest failures were the made in America bits.

Simulation6 , in Tesla chair says Elon Musk needs $46 billion pay plan to stay motivated

I stopped considering a Tesla because of him. His leaving would have to help sales a bit.

CraigeryTheKid , (edited )

Honestly I wish he would ‘leave’ SpaceX too.

I caught his livestream for the latest Starship launch, and he literally introduced the event with a 10-minute speech on “saving your life” by buying crypto, and how they would match your crypto if you used his link or something. WTF was all that, and WTF did that have to do with SpaceX. --So that was a scam/fake video, but my top comment is still how I feel!

towerful ,

Pump&Dump?
Musk bought into some shitcoin that crashed before he made profit, so even if he gives half away, the slight boost on price will let him dump the rest for less losses… Maybe?

nialv7 ,

You are the victim of YouTube scam channels pretending to be SpaceX…

SpaceX no longer streams on YouTube anymore, so anything you see will be fake.

It’s also disappointing YouTube is so bad at catching these. During IFT4 that was literally the most watched stream, had more viewers than Everyday Astronaut for example.

CraigeryTheKid , (edited )

EDIT: holy shit - I tried googling it since i thought I was taking crazy pills, and it says that was an AI-video that dubbed over elon?!

I consider myself pretty keen on scam stuff (well… I didn’t buy any crypto so I guess I’m still good here) but man when I saw it I just shook my head an ignored it. I didn’t realize it was fake.

wow.

also, to be fair, he has been a proponent of crypto in the past.

CaptPretentious , (edited )

I was interested in Tesla when it was first getting big. But lost interest fast due to him. I would say you couldn’t pay me to own one, but if there’s 46 billion just burning a hole in someone pocket, well fuck, for a billion dollars I’ll be interested and for 2 billion I’ll own it.

BakerBagel ,

The problem is that Tesla is essentially just a pump and dump masquerading as a car company. Their market cap is simply absurd and based on nothing other than Musk’s personality cult. If Musk leaves the company gor whatever reason, the stock will crash and the company will go bankrupt. They have an obscene amount of debt that is backed by Tesla stock, so once thier stock falls below a certain price, all thos loans will demand their loneu back

Wogi ,

I’m willing to bet the payday is so he can get his money without selling the stock. If the stock is artificially inflated the balloon will pop eventually. He’s at least smart enough to know that.

SeaJ OP ,

Same. I bought stock in it when it IPO’d because he made a good road map that his engineers could get to and they made great use of government funding. He largely just seemed like an awkward nerd. The Thai cave rescue was the instance where I thought there was something seriously wrong with the dude. He decided to have a sub built even though nobody asked him to and the thing did not fit. Then he called one of the rescuers a pedophile. And not just as an odd insult; he doubled down on the claim. Since then it just seems he has been continually seeking attention.

As for the company, their poor quality control was understandable 10 years ago but it’s still pretty fucking bad and I honestly think he is a big part of that. I recall watching a documentary a long time ago where the producer was talking to Musk about some of the challenges of making the Roadster. They were in a warehouse that had a couple dozen that had been inspected. Musk looked at the notes on one and it had a pretty major issue that would likely pop up but he was going to ship it anyway. The producer looked at it and noticed that they were looking at the car that would be going to him. Musk very awkwardly backpedaled. It sends that willingness to overlook major flaws has not left.

mercano , in Trump asks judge to lift limited gag order in his hush money case
@mercano@lemmy.world avatar

The defendant has indicated his desire to appeal, so the order should remain in place to protect the integrity of the case going forward.

ignirtoq , in Biden to sign executive order to close southern US border to asylum seekers

This will be an unpopular opinion here, but Biden has been backed into a corner on this. The immigration system is fundamentally broken and not equipped to deal with modern needs, but that has to be fixed by Congress. Biden had legislation he was favoring, and regardless of what your opinion on it was, Republicans made it clear they won't let absolutely any changes to immigration happen with a Democrat in the White House, no matter how much they may agree with them.

His options under executive action are extremely limited. The strategy of letting the system flounder to illustrate the need for reform has only worked against him, so now he's trying something else. I don't agree with the current system, the reforms that he proposed, nor this executive order, but man, there just isn't a good solution here, and he's feeling the political pressure on it, which while it may be misdirected is nonetheless real.

alilbee ,

I’m with you here. I don’t like this EO, but wtf else is he supposed to do? It’s the number one issue for a huge chunk of the populace. We’re gonna have to do better than complaining about it to give any government official options that aren’t just restrictions. People are hurting and dumb, and they blame immigrants. Solve that at the root, but you can’t ignore it in the meantime.

disguy_ovahea , (edited )

The root of the problem is Congress. The last full overhaul of immigration policy was in 1986. Congress amended policy in 2019 and tied it to border security, focusing on protecting minors. Trump then twisted those protections into Title 42 by detaining children and deporting their parents.

www.congress.gov/bill/99th-congress/…/1200

www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/…/6

alilbee ,

It usually is! We put way too much focus on the presidency for our woes. Thanks for the dates, that’s helpful context.

Stamau123 ,

Context? In my comment section?

andrewth09 ,

How dare Biden try to appeal to Americans with different opinions than me.

disguy_ovahea ,

Thank you. I’ve been commenting the same thing on similar posts. His power allows him three options, turn away at the border, detainment, or doing nothing. Doing nothing defaults to current immigration policy, which means migrants will be bused to overcrowded sanctuary cities to remain homeless due to lack of funding for housing.

He did the right thing by repealing Title 42. He left the border open and relied on sanctuary cities to house migrants while pressing Congress for immigration reform. Congress failed to pass a bill, and now sanctuary cities are over housing capacity. His only remaining options are turn away or detain.

MisterD ,

I can see Republicans say that he shouldn’t close the border or that he’s not allowed.

Oh the hypocrisy!

MagicShel , in ‘No way out without bloodshed’: the right believe the US is under threat and are mobilizing

I’m not really sure it should be up to 70 year olds whether we have a civil war. It’s the young people that will have to live in it’s wake, should it happen.

aniki ,

I mean - its the press amplifying the opinion of some irrelevant old geezer who’s just calling others to violence. I wouldn’t really concern yourself too much with these idiots.

alcoholicorn ,

You can apply that logic to most decisions this country makes.

Why the hell are we letting 70 year olds dictate energy policy? They’re not gonna see the full brunt of climate change.

Why are they involved in foreign policy? They’re not going off to war.

Economics? Most of the people they talk to are retired or rich. tf do they know about making rent in 2024?

xmunk , (edited )

Honestly, this may sound controversial… but if we deny teens the vote, I’m not certain why the hell we allow retirees to vote.

Kecessa ,

Can’t vote for the first 18 years of your life? Can’t vote for the last 18 either (based on average life expectancy), just watch how things improve dramatically if such a measure is put in place.

Same logic with holding elected positions, if people younger than X can’t be elected then people older than (life expectancy - X) can’t either. And yes, I realize that it leaves very few years for men to become president in the US’ case and that’s not a bad thing at all.

Today ,

You don’t want Bernie to vote?

pikmeir ,

He can vote a little as a treat.

Kecessa ,

I don’t want anyone that won’t live with the consequences of their political decisions to be in a position where they get to decide for those who will.

It would mean losing a few progressive voices, but also losing a ton of far right and center right voices and opening the door to people who actually have a reason to care for what’s going to happen in the next 50 years because it concerns then directly.

jj4211 ,

I don’t want anyone that won’t live with the consequences of their political decisions to be in a position where they get to decide for those who will.

On the flip side, young folks vote influences things like social security and medicare. Given that everyone of all ages is subject to various government policies, often uniquely, you cannot have a system where you can identify a subpopulation that ‘shouldn’t count’ by that logic.

Kecessa ,

And young folks influence it in their favor for the long term which also benefits people that are currently old instead of old folks pulling the ladder after them.

zalgotext ,

Anything that motivates increasing the national average life expectancy is a good thing

Neato ,
@Neato@ttrpg.network avatar

Some care. Some don’t want their grandchildren to suffer. But right wingers never care regardless of their age. They’re selfish assholes.

tootoughtoremember ,

The voter demographics from the last presidential election has 52% of voters being age 50+, with 52% of those voters voting for Trump.

It’s certainly not all older voters, but it is most of them.

AbidanYre ,

To be fair, he did give another option.

cmbabul ,

Sadly that’s pretty much always the case with war, the youth pay the bill for the elderly

TexasDrunk ,

And the poor pay the bill for the rich and powerful.

uberdroog ,
@uberdroog@lemmy.world avatar

Don’t forget the generation of radicalized vets from desert wars.

HottieAutie ,

Is there any valid evidence of this radicalization? Anecdotally, I’ve been in the Global War of Terrorism social circles, and they seem to be pretty even with their political distribution, maybe a little more right leaning, but I think that’s due more to lack of higher education than military experience. What I think happens is that the right likes to make logical fallacy appeals, so they exploit radical veterans by giving them a louder voice.

It reminds me of a scene from The Big Lebowski.

Walter Sobchak: Those rich fucks! This whole fucking thing… I did not watch my buddies die face down in the muck so that this fucking strumpet…

The Dude: I don’t see any connection to Vietnam, Walter.

Walter Sobchak: Well, there isn’t a literal connection, Dude.

The Dude: Walter, face it, there isn’t any connection.

Rather than be a rational level-headed support like The Dude, the right exacerbates their struggles to exploit them.

uberdroog ,
@uberdroog@lemmy.world avatar

I lived and worked among many over the last two decades. So, just anecdotal experience. www.rand.org/news/press/2024/04/09.html

HottieAutie ,

Yeah, it seems like misplaced anger that is masking underlying pain and sadness to me. The right-wing leaders take advantage of their mental health issues for their own selfish goals. It’s disgusting.

uberdroog ,
@uberdroog@lemmy.world avatar

That is the story of the right. My father-in-law is sitting on his couch with his drug addicted son, who has never had a job, railing against Hunter Biden. My grandmother is 80 years old and is worried that we are days away from going door to door and pulling Christians out in the street. My mother is full up on social programs and benefits but it’s the “others” that are making her life worse. Mental health issues, sadness, inability of reflecting…lots of excuses.

skuzz ,

FWIW, I know 70some and 80some year olds that can still think critically and know what doom is on the horizon if Orange Satan’s Rectum wins. Intelligence, as well as stupidity, transcend how many years one has rode around the yellow fusion ball.

MagicShel ,

Their ability to think isn’t what I’m really talking about. No matter what, an 80 year old is writing checks someone else has to cash. Maybe we do need to have a big fuck off war to end these fascist fucks once and for all, but that’s not an 80 year old’s decision, you know?

Nelots ,

So do you support taking away their ability to vote then?

AngryCommieKender ,

Not the other commenter, but I could only support that if they are legally proven mentally unfit to care for themselves. I know that is a high bar, but there’s really no good argument for restricting anyone’s right to vote.

skuzz ,

It used to be the old guided the young into the future. Somehow with the last generation, rather than transition, they’ve vice-gripped the entire system to hold onto the 1950s until their hands are bleeding. I see what you are saying with regards to the decision, and we have seen many of the olds make “fuck you, I got mine” decisions every day. I suppose I was just pointing out that they’re not all bad. There’s just that greedy psychotic vocal minority holding all the keys to shit all over everyone. To solve that? Maybe we do need a big fuck off war. Really wish it wouldn’t have to come to that though. Waiting it out doesn’t even work because modern medicine keeps extending their lives.

MagicShel ,

I didn’t mean to imply they are bad. I’m fifty. I’m not really including myself in the group of people who should be calling those particular shots, but I also want to be part of the solution and I hope it doesn’t come to that. My grandpa fought in WW2. I don’t want my kids or grandkids to face that. But sometimes the world doesn’t care what we want.

Cybermonk_Taiji ,

Welcome! Is this your first war? You should probably watch the introduction video.

xmunk , in 1 million customers are without power in Texas as Dallas and Houston get slammed with destructive storms | CNN

Remember, of course, that these extreme weather events can’t have anything to do climate change because climate change isn’t real. /s

red_rising ,

Equally important to remember that this has nothing to do with the ‘quality’ of the Texas electric grid because Texas it’s superior to all other states in every possible way.

Lost_My_Mind ,

Maybe not as equal, but lets also remember that congress just passed a bill to make private jets impossible to track.

Now the media tried to figure out a way to sell this headline to get as many clicks as possible, and they came up with putting Taylor Swift in the headline. Thats fans now can’t track her jet.

But the real story there is, that THIS time, we have no idea if Ted Cruz flew to Alaska.

What? If it’s cold he flies to Cancun. I figure if it’s hot he flies where it’s cold. Stands to logic.

Point is…how do we know if Ted Cruz is being a slimey little weasle again? Besides the fact that it’s Ted Cruz.

Kalkaline ,
@Kalkaline@leminal.space avatar

For these events it’s people not keeping their trees trimmed and away from power lines. Nevermind Oncor refuses to bury the lines because the upfront costs are too expensive.

The outages we saw last year because demand outpaced supply was definitely because we have a shitty power grid.

0110010001100010 ,
@0110010001100010@lemmy.world avatar

For these events it’s people not keeping their trees trimmed and away from power lines.

Unless Texas is somehow different than Ohio (possible, I know) people aren’t responsible for this. The power company is the one that should be maintaining proper clearances, installing protective devices to isolate sections, etc.

Source: I worked for a power company for almost 2 decades and now am doing grid mod consulting.

formergijoe ,

But look at how close those trees are to the power line!

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/12c5e37a-d65b-4417-90da-798bb1e3878e.jpeg

TachyonTele ,

TIL: Texas is the only state with trees.

protist ,

Dude, electrical substations were in shambles and high voltage towers were knocked to the ground in the storm that hit Houston a couple weeks ago. This isn’t a tree trimming issue, there were 100mph sustained straight-line winds

SharkAttak ,
@SharkAttak@kbin.social avatar

What many Texans don't know (or don't wanna know) is that theirs is not a flag, but a rating.

RGB3x3 ,

I just flew through Dallas, barely missing these storms by like 2 hours. It was the first time I’d been there.

Holy crap, that airport is a shit hole. Everything feels disgusting and in disrepair. The bathrooms were so unclean, the carpets looked 50 years old, the trams were falling apart.

That’s the first and only time I will ever be in Texas. Texas is the “shit hole country.”

Weslee ,

Oh no remember these storms are from god to punish the gays and the sinners, so…

Lemminary ,

I’m doing my part! "kisses all the homies*

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

I’m cishet, but I’ll totally make out with you if it means a tornado wipes out the governor’s mansion…

SharkAttak ,
@SharkAttak@kbin.social avatar

..so, there must be lots of homos in Texas..

eltrain123 ,

Maybe the storms are there to punish the conservative leadership of Texas… that claim Christian morality, but rule with supply-side Jesus….

Or maybe this is all very predictable because ERCOT isn’t effectively hardening the grid for extreme weather and refuses to tie into neighboring grids for backup because it doesn’t want to follow federal standards.

newthrowaway20 , in DeSantis signs Florida bill making climate change a lesser priority and bans offshore wind turbines

Florida hurt itself in confusion.

Tronn4 ,

Florida has no PP left!

WindyRebel ,

Florida forgets ban plant based meat and learns ban wind turbines.

Tronn4 ,

Names checks out

ArtemisimetrA ,

What?! Florida is evolving! … Congratulations! Your Florida evolved into Ocean!

A_Random_Idiot , in Florida man points AR-15 in Uber driver's face, forces him to ground for dropping daughter off: deputies

No wonder the daughter leaves the house without his permission or knowledge. Hes a fucking lunatic.

jonne ,

Probably not an amazing parent if his 13yo daughter is sneaking out to do God knows what. I get being upset, but I’m sure you could talk to the Uber driver or God forbid your own daughter to figure out where she’s been.

FlyingSquid , in Transgender activists flood Utah tip line with hoax reports to block bathroom law enforcement
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

These two links show all of the Republican legislators in Utah if anyone needs to report seeing them using the “wrong” bathroom.

senate.utah.gov/senate-roster/

house.utleg.gov/house-members/

This would be the form you should fill out. I would definitely report any of those people for using the “wrong” bathroom if you happen to have any information on that.

…web.app/sex_basis_complaint2.html

NatakuNox ,
@NatakuNox@lemmy.world avatar

Please use a VPN and no identifiable info when submitting.

refalo ,

VPNs do not make you anonymous

sleepyTonia ,
@sleepyTonia@programming.dev avatar

No, but not providing them with personal information like one’s email, address, name, phone number or social media accounts, and not screaming “I live within # km of xxx!” by accessing their website with your actual IP address? That kinda helps. Plus, they’re definitely blocking any reports made from out of state at this point.

Naich ,
@Naich@lemmings.world avatar

I don’t think they would trawl through hundreds of thousands of submissions to go after individuals. I also doubt they would extradite me from the UK. So fuck the VPN.

NatakuNox ,
@NatakuNox@lemmy.world avatar

They sure as hell pass laws to go after just a fraction of their population so…

BakerBagel ,

Good thing i have zero intention of ever going to Utah

lolrightythen ,

It’s a beautiful state, politics aside

Stovetop ,

FWIW I’d just use a random name generator. They could just filter out common/obviously fake submissions of legislators. The goal should be obfuscation, make it hard to tell what is a genuine report and what is a report for someone who doesn’t even exist—reports that they can’t just toss until they investigate and realize it was just a waste of time.

andyburke ,
@andyburke@fedia.io avatar

Are you saying legislators are unwilling to investigate their own even if they're violating the law?

pearsaltchocolatebar ,

Yes, that’s how the GOP operates.

FlyingSquid , in IRS says its number of audits is about to surge. Here's who the agency is targeting.
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Well, I was ready to be cynical, but this is pretty good stuff.

The IRS plans to triple the audit rates on large corporations with assets of more than $250 million. Audit rates for these companies will rise to 22.6% in tax year 2026 from 8.8% in 2019.

Large partnerships with assets of more than $10 million will see their audit rates increase 10-fold, rising to 1% in tax year 2026 from 0.1% in 2019.

Wealthy individuals with total positive income of more than $10 million will see their audit rates rise 50% to 16.5% from 11% in 2019.

And now back to the cynicism: We’ll see how long it lasts. If Trump gets into office, the audits will all disappear.

billiam0202 ,

Let me throw more cynicism there.

Wealthy individuals with total positive income of more than $10 million

Don’t most of the 1% have little, if any, “income”? Don’t they have shit like stocks or loans secured with stocks or other holdings?

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

I think so, although CEOs definitely have high incomes.

I’m more positive about the corporate stuff.

protist ,

Plenty of them do have income, and when they say “positive income,” that means they’re going to ignore losses or other tax write-offs in this calculation. They’re also targeting partnerships with assets over $10 million, which is huge

catloaf ,

Given recent moves they’ve made, I would assume this is also targeting actual groups, and not just carefully slicing to target nobody.

FuglyDuck ,
@FuglyDuck@lemmy.world avatar

Dipshits like Musk and trump will take loans out on capital gains, and pay off the interest from older loans with them (and live on some of it,)

It’s why the stock market is so important to all of them. They need their assets- stock shares, private companies, real estate- to always go up.

The reality is though that people that do that are over-leveraged and have near-zero net worth. Which is exactly why Trump is having trouble securing those bonds.

bradorsomething ,

I’ve moved in these circles, and people stretch rules obscenely, because “it’s legal until you’re audited.”

spacesatan , in FTC fines Razer for every cent made selling bogus “N95 grade” RGB masks | Ars Technica

The actual fine is total revenue + 100k(roughly another 10%). That seems pitifully low for knowingly and intentionally lying about something people trust their lives to.

Armok_the_bunny ,

On one hand yes, knowingly endangering lives like that could be worth a heftier fine, on the other hand everything made plus ten percent seems like a pretty good fine to use if you want to actually discourage behavior across the board.

Ookami38 ,

Exactly. Fines don’t work for corporations or the mega wealthy because they don’t have teeth. Pegging the fine to the actual income earned from the crime, and ensuring it’s no longer more profitable to just pay the fine and continue doing what you’re doing, is like, the only way to continue if we want to use fines as a deterrent.

The_v ,

Pegging the fine against the personal assets of the executives/board responsible for the crime would be more effective.

Fining a corporation just hurts the the employees.

Ookami38 ,

I mean, that’s fair. We can talk specifics, just something to make sure the fine has teeth. How we decide to do that is another topic.

NaibofTabr ,

Yeah, this should be the standard. No fixed penalty amounts, no negotiated settlements. Revenue +10% would be a great standard.

Wooki ,

10% is not a fine, it is a sales tax.

Ookami38 ,

Reminder that it’s all revenue PLUS 10%. So it effectively makes whatever bullshit money making scheme they want to use, cost money instead.

Wooki ,

Good to know you dont mind the profiteering off fraud.

Fine is a penalty, not a cost of business, not a sales tax. A penalty.

100k fine on 1 mill refund is nothing. 1 mill fine on 1 mill refund is a fine.

Ookami38 ,

My guy. Reading comprehension. I did not say 10%. I said 10% ON TOP OF ANY EARNINGS.

As in, if a corp earns 1 million, the fine levied would be 1.1 million.

Christ, go back to 2nd grade.

Wooki ,

Stop conflating refund as earnings and a fine. Its not. They didn’t earn shit, they committed fraud and stole money. Forced refunds are not fines

Ookami38 ,

Yes, they earned things. Fraudulently. You’re getting up in arms over some terminology that doesn’t quite mesh with your preferences. We’re clearly on the same wavelength - stop organizations from acquiring (does that keep you happy? Getting? Taking? Whatever fucking word you want) money through illegal or unethical methodology.

You’re like the worst part of the left. Up in arms because someone dares to have a “different” opinion from you, when if you actually stopped to understand the words they’re saying, you’d realize you’re on the same fucking page.

Wooki ,

You’re perpetuating it as a win. Its not. Its not close to bare minimum. The cost of this should have been:

  1. Sales refunds
  2. Fine (much larger because its to small and because they are flying lose with personal safety)
  3. Damages to customers. It would be safe to assumed every person was placed in harms way that purchased these devices.

Incoherent ramblings.

Cool story bro

Ookami38 ,

Don’t put words in my mouth. You’re the one refusing to move past the fact that I chose to refer to your idea of a refund as part of the fine. Get back to me when you make an effort to understand the actual points I’m making. Actually, don’t bother, you’re not worth my time any longer.

Wooki ,

incoherent ramblings

Still no coherent point.

majormoron ,

It’s 110%, not 10%.

Wooki ,

Its a 100% refund with a 10% fine. Dont conflate the refunded fraudulent sales with the fine.

Ookami38 ,

Which then makes whatever business practice is causing damage actually cost the company money. That’s the point. If the bottom line is dollars, making it so that illegal or unethical practices CANNOT make you money, because you’ll be fined more than the amount you made. Or, if you REALLY want to split hairs, sure, you’ll be forced to refund 100%, and then fined 10% on top of that. If that’s REALLY the distinction you want to make, go for it. It’s the same in the end.

Wooki ,

Don’t conflate refunds from fine. Its not an earnings, its a refund.

Ookami38 ,

Who actually cares what you call it? The point is, you remove whatever money they got from being shitty, and then hit them with a fine.

Do you think 10% on top of the “refund” is not enough? I think that’s got more teeth than any fines we use today. I can get behind it not being a steep enough penalty, but say that, instead of arguing over “refund” versus “fine” and “earnings” versus “acquisitions” or whatever terminology bugbear you have.

Wooki ,

And here in lies the problem.

You conflate earnings from fraud, still. Fines are a deterent, a burden with the goal to stop the behaviour. 10% of a few sales even a million dollars revenue is still very little for a company this size.

Ookami38 ,

Okay so you take issue with the 10% part. We can talk about that, for sure. I think 10% is low too. But you’re attacking me as if I’m thinking it’s all well and good they’re doing this shit. It’s not. We’re on the same page philosophically, you just really don’t like the specific terminology I’m using, and would rather argue than try to get to a common ground. Take care, bud.

Wooki ,

How delicate do you have to be to believe disagreement as an attack . Comical gold.

Serinus ,

It is 83% effective, which is below par for what they’re offering. But it’s probably about as effective as the homemade cloth masks we were using at the beginning of the pandemic.

It more or less does the job. Which is less than you’d expect from a product you’re paying for, but still generally okay. This is probably fine for going to the grocery store. It’s not good enough if you’re working in a hospital.

Jaysyn , in Florida ‘callously’ strips healthcare from thousands of children despite new law
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The are monsters.

If you vote , you're a monster too.

Prediction: Florida will get sued in Federal Court & lose, again.

homesweethomeMrL ,

Depends on if they draw a trump judge or not

rickdg , in Gay furry hackers leak data of transphobic pastor & far-right news network
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Thank you for your furvice o7

blanketswithsmallpox ,

Thank you fur survice.

FlyingSquid , in Trump criminal case: Full 12-person jury seated in Manhattan
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How soon before all of them get doxxed?

Darkard ,

Won’t take long for the media to start slandering them I’m sure.

But in all seriousness, I hope they are being given some measure of protection considering how rabid Trumps supporters get.

restingboredface ,

One already has, sort of anyway. Her occupation, city of residence, and employer were shared on TV and she received phone calls right after asking if she was on the jury. Yesterday she asked to be excused out of fear for her safety.

www.cnn.com/…/h_1ff02b074c82044242ec0b3e31d2294a

FlyingSquid ,
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That was what made me suggest the rest will. And it will happen in his other cases too. There is a Russian hacker army at the ready.

Mirshe ,

Not even Russian hackers, just bored MAGAts who know how to work a few websites. If you know a few key pieces of information, you can find pretty much anyone in the US with relative ease.

FlyingSquid ,
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They can’t get the names of who is actually on the jury that way. That will take Putin.

Postmortal_Pop ,

I mean, you really don’t need the names, if you can narrow it down to say, every 34 year old black woman working at theaters in Detroit that’s that’s maybe 20 people tops and likely closer to 5. You could easily harass 5-20 locals on your own and MAGA likes it’s flock mentality. If they’re MAGA they’ll just join in, if they’re not they’re dangerous antifa terrorists and it’s god trumps divine order to ruin their lives.

pearsaltchocolatebar ,

You don’t need Russian hackers when Trump is a Russian asset.

UnderpantsWeevil ,
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That will take Putin.

Why do people assume a guy on the opposite side of the world has more leverage than the majority party of the country the case is happening in?

I swear to God, you wouldn’t even know the GOP base exists the way people talk

FlyingSquid ,
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I assume “a guy on the opposite side of the world” has a huge hacker army at his disposal.

UnderpantsWeevil ,
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Either Russian software and networking IT folks are a generation ahead of their American peers, our army of hackers (ie, the NSA - the world’s largest employer of Mathematician PhDs) is completely asleep at the switch, or the call is coming from inside the house.

FlyingSquid ,
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If that’s your criterion, yes. They are asleep at the switch these days.

theguardian.com/…/fbi-china-hack-infrastructure

UnderpantsWeevil ,
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TIL, Putin is Chinese and the Southern District of New York jury pool is a pipeline company.

FlyingSquid ,
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So you’re saying the NSA could definitely catch Russian hackers hacking into the New York State criminal justice system computers but not catch Chinese hackers hacking into our national infrastructure?

Sounds like the NSA isn’t very good at its job.

UnderpantsWeevil ,
@UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

So you’re saying the NSA could definitely catch Russian hackers hacking into the New York State criminal justice system

I’m saying that if I had to put money down on who will be outing a member of the Trump jury on my bingo card, I’d put a lot more dollars on “MAGA New Yorker who works at the New York State criminal justice office” than “Guy with a laptop in Moscow”.

themeatbridge ,

The judge has since specifically prohibited press from disclosing employer information, so it seems les s likely.

Riven ,
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Not like some of those press people are on trumps side or anything. sideyes fox,

pearsaltchocolatebar ,

Lol, you think the judge issuing a stern warning will stop it? I bet it’s Trump’s legal team leaking the info.

UnderpantsWeevil ,
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Wouldn’t be the first New York Don to leverage jury intimidation as a court strategy

Pretzilla ,

Jessie Waters on Faux News, it should be noted

ThrowawayPermanente ,

What the fuck

prole ,

Literally talks about it happening in the article.

UnderpantsWeevil ,
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I’ve got a spot bet on at least three of them being accused of pedophile conspiracies before the case is done

Zorsith , in Ozempic maker Novo Nordisk facing pressure as study finds $1,000 appetite suppressant can be made for just $5
@Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Literally almost every drug in existance.

Wiz ,

Then after the parent rubs out, they make a slightly different version and repatent it.

Zorsith ,
@Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Insulin: new formula now 0.0005% more effective for only 9000% increase in profit!

PutangInaMo ,

Whoo boy that typo had me going at first lol

Wiz ,

That typo is hilarious enough that I must leave it. 😁

Ragnarok314159 ,

We thank you for your service.

melpomenesclevage ,

Every neighborhood should have community drug labs (not just the sheriff’s meth lab like we have now) and every pharma researcher should be spilling their guts or spilling their guts.

Ragnarok314159 ,

I dunno, Sheriff’s meth lab can help with the adderral shortage.

melpomenesclevage ,

I’m not saying we can’t re-use the hardware, maybe even the staff, but are you honestly proposing anything involving the police would ever be allowed to be used for good?

Ragnarok314159 ,

You are right, they would find some way to make it bad.

nonfuinoncuro ,

both stimulants also suppress appetite

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