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Ensign_Crab , to lemmyshitpost in Let's move this along, future boy

Bet he pays with a check.

greyhaven7 ,

Exact change

cantstopthesignal ,

Out of a coin purse

DragonTypeWyvern ,

Still went faster tho

Blastasaurus ,

All pennies

MiddleWeigh ,
@MiddleWeigh@lemmy.world avatar

I’m good at counting pennies

pascal ,

We don’t have pennies anymore in the first world.

AllonzeeLV , (edited )

“What, your fancy future store too good to accept my assorted animal pelts and sifted gold pebbles as currency?!”

PeriodicallyPedantic , to memes in Buying a new car is not better than keeping an old one

We will never consumer our way of of a problem capitalism created. And public transit is nearly always a better solution to spending on car infrastructure.

… but… If you’re gonna buy a new car anyway, they have the potential to cause less climate impact (although they’re still environmentally devastating in other ways). As power generation becomes cleaner, so too do the cars. ICE cars are already about as environmentally friendly as they’re gonna get, but EVs still have a lot of potential improvement (both in emissions and in things like material mining).

Although the tire microplastics is gonna get worse.

GenesisJones ,

They already do cause less of an impact than ICE powered cars. Anyone can Google the information that shows that even though battery production is unclean, fossil fuel production over the life of a car is worse.

If the EV last for more than about 5 years, it was worth it.

ArcaneSlime ,

…except not, how rich are you that buying a new car every 5yr is viable?! I need longer than “about 5yr!”

I know that’s not what you meant but it made me chuckle.

Gasandthefuhrerious ,

Some people are also forced by their job to lease a new car every 4 years.

It so bad that I cant even lease a 400km old car from 2022 … No I had to have a new one and if I dont want a car I need to find i different job.

Shit’s fucking dumb.

ArcaneSlime ,

Jeez, buncha moneybags around here that don’t like a joke, huh?

What job forces people to lease new cars? Sounds like the job should be providing them if it’s gonna be like that, like they do with cell phones they require you to use as “work phones.”

Gasandthefuhrerious ,

It is like that, it isnt so much a personal issue as I can run the car as much as I want.

Its more of a “we want to be good for the environment… But everyone needs a new car. And its mandatory”

Saganastic ,

I don't understand it either, but still, there is a very active used car market these days. It's not like those 5 year old cars are getting thrown in the dump.

But like you said, it's not what the original poster meant. That's just the cutoff for when it is less environmentally harmful than an ICE car.

GenesisJones ,

That’s the break even point for the environmental benefits to overtake production negatives for evs…what the fuck are you talking about? Of course they last longer then that that’s my fucking point you dipshit

ArcaneSlime , (edited )

If the EV last for more than about 5 years, it was worth it.

This is the crux of the joke, the joke being that I am too poor to afford a car every five years, which subverts the expectation of “what you were actually talking about.”

I even said “I know that isn’t what you meant but it made me chuckle.” You really didn’t get the joke?

That says more about you being a dipshit than it does me, frankly, considering I literally told you it was a joke.

Also you’re rude.

Toadiwithaneye ,

5 Years… This is part of the problem… What happens to this car after 5 years, it gets “recycled”. The metal does and the rest goes into a landfill to gas off. Micro plastics are just part of it, the gasses are a major polluter too. The reason you can own and keep your old car is that they were built to last, our current disposable society is the problem. Electric cars are dirty! Let go dig massive hole in the desert, lets separate the wanted materials out with lovely chemicals, then we can throw it all away. So clean… Right to repair, build to last, and strong public transport is the way to go.

Pandemanium ,

No one is recycling still-working cars after only 5 years. Unless you’re talking about insurance deciding to salvage a vehicle after a wreck, which is a different story. Even those don’t always get destroyed, some are parted out and some are probably shipped overseas to get a second life.

Toadiwithaneye ,

New cars are cheaply made, with parts that sold in modules (parts attached to other parts) and are by far more expensive then their older counterparts. They also have been engineered to be a pain for mechanics to work on, they are no longer built to last or be repair friendly. Many parts are engineered with fasteners that break when you remove them, not making them friendly to being parted out. As for EV’s they are a dirty bandaid to a dirty problem, the batteries alone are, made with rare earth metals lithium, manganese and cobalt. These are all pulled out of the earth using chemicals to separate the materials, these mining areas may never fully recover the impact is huge. We still do not have the technology to recycle them, they just like plastics are not fully recyclable. We could build an affordable, repair friendly car that would be a great trade in for Dads old beater, but that wouldn’t get you into a New Ford Crapbox Deluxe.

GenesisJones ,

You need help with reading comprehension and deductive reasoning

Toadiwithaneye ,

So cars are not cheaply made, nor are they unfriendly to repair. The experiences that my family members and I, who have worked on repairing cars is a mass delusion. Not to mention those delusional mechanics that have shared their stories. Everything is recyclable, mines are clean and beautiful. Is that better. Lets be happy!

MrSqueezles ,

Phew! My electric car made it five years, right to the theoretical break even point with a gas car. What will I do now? Keep driving it? No, I have a better idea. Drive it off of a cliff and go buy a new one. Yep, I love throwing money away for no reason.

Toadiwithaneye ,

That is not what I said, but good job taking care of you toy car.

KaleDaddy ,

A well worded nuanced take on Lemmy? Where am I?

bob ,

Yeah but by the time some of that potential is realised, your brand new EV is now a few years old and almost worthless cos the batteries are next to useless.

SuperIce ,

Modern EV batteries last for over a decade and still retain most of their original capacity even after a few hundred thousand miles.

WarmSoda , to mildlyinfuriating in Updated Edge and it now seems to put a frame with rounded corners around every website

Wha… Why are you using Edge?
I’m so confused

FireWire400 OP ,
@FireWire400@lemmy.world avatar

I mainly use Firefox but have Edge to test website with, can’t really uninstall it anyway.

WarmSoda , (edited )

Alright. This guy’s story checks out. Let’em through.

abbadon420 ,

Damnit! Now I’ve oiled my pitchforks for nothing. Ah well… gues i’ll be visiting the political subs again…

WarmSoda ,

Hey, I saw someone ask an innocent question about something they don’t know in a post down the street. Wanna go make fun that guy?

abbadon420 ,

Oompa loompa doompadideed

We’re honna make fun of some guy down the steeet

QuinceDaPence ,

Get a load of this guy not oiling his pitchfork regularly any way.

Psythik ,

Why not just use Ungoogled Chromium for your tests? It’s the same browser anyway, just without the spyware.

lars , (edited )

Because your tests might react differently in an environment with spyware. And rounded corners. These are called Edge cases.

Psythik ,

LMFAO 💯

ChaoticNeutralCzech ,

Well, I managed to uninstall it fully through Safe Mode and regedit but that made the fingerprint reader stop working. (It’s my sister’s laprop, okay? I use Mint on mine.)

ultra ,

You can…

RogueBanana ,

It is possible to remove it, needs a bit of work and running scripts as admin to do it but you can figure out if you look it up. I can’t remember how I did it and I don’t use windows anymore but first page results should bring it up.

FuglyDuck ,
@FuglyDuck@lemmy.world avatar

not with that attitude you can’t. (C’mon. You know you wanna convert to linux.)

robotrash ,

Much to the chagrin of a large portion of lemmy users Edge is not actually a bad browser. If you’re using a chromium based browser anyway there’s really nothing worse about edge than the other options. Obviously not talking about Firefox here.

WarmSoda ,

Chagrin. When your step father Steve tells everyone in your school that you’re quote: as smooth as a seals behind down there… much to your chagrin.
Chagrin.

Carighan ,
@Carighan@lemmy.world avatar

Exactly. It’s my Chrome browser of choice. I use Firefox virtually all the time, but if I need somethiung that works in the cases where non-chromium does not, I use Edge. It’s a fast, its already installed so no extra fuss, it has the best vertical tab implementation that really should be standard for every single browser.

gothicdecadence ,

Would you say you use it in

edge cases?

evatronic ,

The vertical tabs are why I keep it around.

sock ,

im in the same boat edge is pretty fire tho imo compared to chrome at least.

i havent used it in a bit tho coz of firefox but its a fine browser firefox being good doesn’t make edge bad

abbadon420 ,

I chose edge over chrome nowadays. But I’m still a firefox man. The AI help chat thingemejig of edge is also pretty okay.

Granixo ,
@Granixo@feddit.cl avatar

Edge is really the best browser for Windows users with low end PCs.

squiblet ,
@squiblet@kbin.social avatar

pretty much because like IE, when using Windows part of it runs in the background whether you like it or not.

nicman24 ,

One browser to actually use and one without anything to test shit on

TheFriendlyDickhead ,

It got way better in the past few years. I think everybody hates it, because the internet explorer was that slow. So it just stayed in our minds that the Microsoft browser sucked.

TWeaK ,

It still sucks, but in a different way.

3laws ,

No. It sucks because it’s Chromium.

soulfirethewolf ,

Most people on fedi will complain about there not being enough browser diversity and then immediately start worshipping and putting Firefox on a pedistal and complaining if anyone uses anything else

3laws ,

Show me in this doll where the Arch user hurt you. 😞

mexicancartel ,

Using firefox will create browser diversity

NightAuthor ,

I really don’t get their take on FF use. Maybe they don’t realize that virtually ALL the other browser options are Chromium based. Your only real choices are Chrome | Safari | Firefox

And Safari is only on apple devices. So for other devices its Chrome or Firefox. With Chrome having near market monopoly… so… yeah Firefox is diversity.

CanadaPlus ,

Real chads pirate Safari and run it on Arch. /s

NightAuthor ,

Hmm… that should be possible shouldn’t it. Ok, my wife’s rarely used Thinkpad is turning into a my first Arch machine.

NightAuthor ,

Scratch that she doesn’t want me screwing with her laptop, she said to put it on my desktop. TBF I have a habit, or rather an ADHD, of starting ‘upgrades’ to things and leaving them in a non-functioning state for a while before finally coming back to them and finishing.

CanadaPlus ,

Yeah, if you just want to get Safari running it’s probably easier to do it alone rather than try to make a complete Chad battlestation.

CanadaPlus ,

What chromium alternative would you suggest?

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  • Nfntordr ,

    I upvote you to counter at least one downvote because you have an opinion.

    lud ,

    I don’t understand what you mean by jank, and uBlock origin is objectively better on Firefox.

    github.com/…/uBlock-Origin-works-best-on-Firefox

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  • lud ,

    Odd, I rarely have any problems and I use a beta version.

    tidaL ,

    The experience in the enterprise as well as the management of it make sense for any company who are a m365 shop. Native seamless single sign on with corporate identities, along with syncing the browser make it a no brained for me to use for work. For personal stuff though I stick with Firefox.

    GregoryTheGreat ,

    I have a few sites that do not work on FF. I have to use it sometimes.

    luciferofastora ,

    Got stuff at work (Microsoft services, for the record) that’ll work in Edge or Chrome, but not entirely in Firefox (gee, wonder why)

    neptune , to memes in The sneaking suspicion that I'm being robbed

    Uber eats etc pulled all the money out of the community. No longer does the restaurant make money and pay a little bit to the driver, who back in the day might have been the owner or the owners kids. No, now the restaurant margins are impossibly thin and so the food is shit, and the driver isn’t an employee and spends it all on gas and oil changes.

    Uber eats takes all the money and sends it to investors.

    Uber and all the other Ubers for X no longer provide a service. They made an app that helps deliver goods and services, but now what? If we nationalized these companies and made them owned by the people, or the people in that industry, we could actually keep the money in your own city.

    Instead we have $80 pizzas and poor, disaffected workers.

    madcaesar ,

    I stopped using uber eats after like 2-3 times. I was sick of the bait and switch pricing.

    Restaurant promotion near you! Two pizzas for 20 $!

    Ok I guess I’ll get that, delivery gotta be like 5$ no big deal…

    Meanwhile the total is somehow 37.85…

    Ugh…ok I guess everyone has to make money and at least everyone is compensated, and it’s convenient…

    click next

    Would you like to tip the driver? It’s only fair he gets some too! 15%?18%?20%?

    Fuck off wtf was the deliver charge then? Wtf were all the fucking charges.

    App uninstalled.

    CoderKat ,

    In theory, the delivery charge should have been the money that goes to Uber to cover their costs. It’s expensive to develop quality web apps, manage drivers, do customer support, etc. But in practice, Uber double dips. There’s the delivery fee and restaurant paid fees (often resulting in higher menu prices).

    visak ,

    Sure, but on a per delivery basis that should be like $1.00? And yes, they need to make a profit, so the fee should be $1.10?

    Fiivemacs ,

    What costs…

    mycoxadril ,

    This makes me curious, now. I ordered pizza this weekend and there’s the $5 delivery charge. Plus we tip, of course. But I do order through the app. So if that $5 is going toward app maintenance or whatnot, I wonder if calling them directly to place a delivery order will eliminate that extra $5 fee. Somehow I doubt it.

    Trainguyrom ,

    I purposely avoid delivery apps and will frequently simply call ahead to order for pickup. It varies by business but usually you pay exactly the same ordering ahead by calling them as you would rolling right up and ordering to go in person

    Alexstarfire ,

    Often? Is there any case where it’s not, apart from promotions/coupons/etc?

    CoderKat ,

    It’s always hard to tell because there often isn’t an easy way to check. But for some fast food, I’ve definitely seen the prices as identical.

    And for their grocery shopping service, some stores specifically advertise having in-store prices.

    RagingRobot ,

    I agree with you until you said to nationalize Uber eats lol. Just stop using it.

    neptune ,

    Why not both

    WaxedWookie ,

    It’s a useful (though non-essential) service that leans toward a natural monopoly. Nationalisation or heavy regulation are the solutions to this.

    Under regulation, profits flow to shareholders. Under nationalisation, they flow to treasury. Practicality of nationalisation in the current climate aside, I know which I’d prefer.

    AlDente ,

    No, just let it die. Please don’t force the rest of us to pay for this.

    LegionEris ,

    It’s a profitable service, like the post office was before they were sabotaged with pension requirements. Users would still be the ones paying, but a greater portion of the profits could go to the workers, and the remainder would go to public projects and other government expenses. That would be preferable to the services being used to continue drawing wealth and power from the working classes to the already wealthy and powerful. The only time it might end up subsidized is if it had to be commandeered for a public use purpose like delivery of food and living essentials during a disease outbreak.

    Alexstarfire ,

    In what way is it a natural monopoly?

    Pipoca ,

    Economies of agglomeration, similar to Amazon. Having one app to order everything from is very convenient and the average person prefers that.

    Alexstarfire ,

    That doesn’t make something a natural monopoly. Nor does “I’m lazy.” And I say this as person who is VERY lazy about a lot of things.

    I don’t doubt it’s convenient but that’s what you’re paying for. Anyone complaining about the prices at convenience stores?

    WaxedWookie ,

    Convenience isn’t the factor here - having a network of delivery drivers, many of whom can remain productive transporting people when they’d otherwise be idle, having established relationships with restaurants, the support infrastructure to work with them a, tech platform and a user base makes it difficult for new entrants.

    …i could order from newdelivery with the 3 restaurants they’ve managed to sign, or I could use uber.

    UristMcHolland ,

    If they nationalize Uber before Amtrak, I’ll blow a gasket

    WaxedWookie ,

    I certainly can’t disagree with that.

    maltasoron ,

    Yeah, we can just go back to the restaurant hiring their own delivery people.

    LegionEris ,

    Except almost none of them did. You’re suggesting going back to having next to zero food delivery options in a world that continues to see COVID spikes and could have future localized lockdowns. I also think this overlooks how much of a QoL increase these services are for people with limited transportation options or mobility problems or other health issues making it hard for them to get out of the house. These services are more than just conveniences to them. They are massive upgrades to their lives.

    maltasoron ,

    Maybe it’s different where you live, but over here many restaurants did have their own delivery service before Just Eat etc. entered the market. In the beginning, they made things cheaper and easier for the restaurants. But recently, I read a lot about how they increased the fees for the restaurants, who would encourage customers to go back to using their own website instead. Enshittification as always.

    AngryCommieKender ,

    Definitely different in the US. The restaurant has to carry a special type of insurance that is ridiculously expensive if they employ delivery drivers. There’s an even more expensive insurance that no restaurant will get that would allow them to own the vehicles.

    Blackmist ,

    Or the fast food places could employ a delivery driver or two, like they used to. Or still do, in the case of most of my local places.

    nudnyekscentryk , to lemmyshitpost in Shirley you cant be serious!
    @nudnyekscentryk@szmer.info avatar

    I’m with boomers on this. It’s even worse if it redirects you to their FB page

    hglman ,

    Boomer is a state of mind.

    Resonanz ,

    Agree. And it is an unnecessary wall to go through for most people. Printing a Menu is really simple.

    I_Fart_Glitter ,

    If I have to log into fucking facebook to see a goddamn menu I’m leaving.

    d3Xt3r , to mildlyinfuriating in Windows Updated and is Pushing More Stuff

    That’s actually a good thing IMO, Microsoft is giving people more reasons to switch to Linux. How kind of them!

    KrisND OP ,

    Good point, adds to the mountain. I may just see if I could run a windows VM at this point tbh.

    metaStatic ,

    I switched to Pop!_OS recently and Windows runs faster in a VM

    (because you've only installed the 1 app you need to run not your entire life, and then snapshot it after debloating so it's always the same)

    KrisND OP ,

    Yeah, I think I am going to setup a VM. I only need it for work due to Windows apps that would work just fine in a VM.

    I am actually considering Qubes OS, which might take some work but overall would probably be a good seamless process.

    How do you like Pop!_OS? I was looking at System76 computers one day and looked into it a couple years ago. Never gave it a try though, based off Ubuntu right?

    metaStatic ,

    Ubuntu/Debian base yeah.

    It just worked out of the box for me and runs everything that kept me locked to windows so I've stuck with it.

    I've run Handbrake in a VM because the linux version doesn't allow setting the default folder for some reason but otherwise haven't needed Windows in months. and as long as I don't need to do anymore bulk trascoding I've probably seen the last of it.

    gunpachi , (edited )

    If you don’t play games like valorant, and only need windows for specific tasks then going with a windows VM is a good option.

    Rai ,

    We’re getting there! There’s still games that run much better on Windows, and some games still don’t have Linux support. But the numbers are shrinking like crazy (THANK YOU STEAMDECK, Steam is the best company for game health as a whole.)

    Also with VR… well, I don’t actually know. I haven’t tried, but will my index be fully functional (and run as well) on Linux?

    Moc ,

    The new Debian is fucking awesome.

    sep ,

    Debian have been fucking awesome since i installed it 23 years ago! It was leaps and bounds better then it’s contemporaries.

    Moc ,

    I agree, although I used to use it for a dev server and SSH in. It’s a great piece of kit!

    oldGregg ,

    Random question but you’d probably know. If I had Debian 11 when debiann12 came out will it update or do you need to reinstall? How has this worked in the past and how do you think the jump from 12 to 13 will work?

    I’m used to rolling releases but I recently put Debian on my laptop

    sep ,

    I have never needed to reinstall Debian. if sources.list say stable, you’d upgrade automatically. but normally the sources specify the release name “bullseye” and you would change that to bookworm when you want to upgrade.

    I installed Debian potato right after 2000 sometime. Because i was so annoyed by running into rpm hell with early redhat releases whatever and having to reinstall all the time. and I apt upgraded to Debian woody, and following the release notes, everything worked. At the time that was wild to see. Have been running Debian on all the servers i touch at work since. The Release notes contain information about what is changed from a regular installation. So you can follow the new defaults if you so want.
    I DD’d the installation to a larger harddrive, before upgrading to sarge. and by then it had become a bit of a sport, while not being necessary in any way I have kept on upgrading, and moving my daily driver over to new machines for fun.

    If you want a rolling release, you can run Debian testing, if you want stability you can depend on, run Debian stable. testing will stick a bit before release, and then have a period of rapid changes after release, but for a not critical desktop, it is generally very nice.

    if you want to keep your system healthy tru the decades make sure you read the issues to be aware of in chapter 5 of the release notes for each new release : www.debian.org/releases/stable/…/release-notes/they contain vital changes you may want to do to keep your system more similar to a freshly installed one.

    tev ,
    @tev@pawb.social avatar

    what’s cool about it?

    Moc ,

    Debian is the most stable operating system ever, and it’s new version 12, is a really good OS.

    What I liked was that it starts quick, never crashes, uses minimal system resources, and with GNOME has an excellent UI. Being a Linux OS that isn’t Ubuntu and isn’t Windows, it doesn’t spy on me.

    Also love operating systems that use Bash or similar. I know how to drive them, I don’t know how to drive MSDOS.

    I have a very powerful computer but the start time difference between Windows 11 and Debian is insane. Debian starts almost instantly.

    I was specifically trying Debian as a gaming platform, so I installed Steam and GOG and a couple of Windows games running through proton. They worked really well.

    In the end I had to go back to Window, because it’s just not there for me yet. Most games worked well, but a few have unacceptably low performance. It requires a bit of fiddling to get everything working right as well, because some of the defaults prevent people from just gaming.

    tev ,
    @tev@pawb.social avatar

    i tried mint a couple years back and had a similar experience as far as gaming went, yeah

    Napain ,

    ah yes the non-idealistic idealist, i always admired your kind

    Mio ,

    It would not help. They just buy a Chromebook instead because there are no other alternatives in the shop. It would be a different story if the thing when you start the new computer get a guide to choose your OS to use. Even better if Android was the same. EU should force this IMO.

    original_ish_name , to lemmyshitpost in We all need to heal.

    Noooooo, people could then see the repairability before buying it. We can’t have that!!!

    Anamana ,

    based lemmy echochamber post :D

    MorgoFett ,

    Is it just me, or are transparent cases more brittle than opaque ones? Like more prone to shattering.

    original_ish_name ,

    Opaque ones have a wider range of materials to choose from. Plastic is pretty unlikely to break, though. Glass is the only other transparent case and that would be brittle (guess which one modern phones use)

    PP_BOY_ , (edited )
    @PP_BOY_@lemmy.world avatar

    Pretty disingenuous comparison to make. Phone screen glass is much more resistant than normal glass and is much more touch sensitive than plastic.

    original_ish_name ,

    I’m talking about the back, they do it for wireless charging

    FiskFisk33 ,

    could’ve used plastic, but I guess that isn’t “premium enough”

    PP_BOY_ ,
    @PP_BOY_@lemmy.world avatar

    Plenty of phones use plastic or aluminum backings that are wireless charging compatabile

    original_ish_name ,

    I’ve been lied to, my whole life is a lie

    MossyFeathers ,

    You know, it’d be kinda sick if someone made a device that had a colored glass case. Phone glass would probably still be too fragile to make an entire Gameboy or iMac out of, but it might be cool at least as a concept item.

    EmperorHenry , to lemmyshitpost in You didn't bought it you rented it!
    @EmperorHenry@lemmy.world avatar

    Every time I think printers can’t get any worse, they get worse.

    What’s next? are they going to have to scan your anus to confirm that it’s actually you printing things? I shouldn’t give them ideas.

    By the way, I’m sure there’s a way to get into the firmware of the printer to disconnect it from that centralized service.

    Shard ,

    Or get the brother printer while they’re still good.

    postmateDumbass ,

    What’s next?

    The firmware will ask for a tip every 10 pages.

    utopianfiat ,

    Please drink a verification can

    c0mbatbag3l ,
    @c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world avatar

    “PLAYER ATTEMPTING TO STEAL ONLINE PLAY!!!”

    mom just walked in the room

    EmperorHenry ,
    @EmperorHenry@lemmy.world avatar

    I can’t imagine why it wouldn’t. The companies that make printers have always been scamming people with their printers and all the shitty things the printers do.

    They’re designed to be shitty and expensive on purpose so that you have to call the guy to fix it and pay an enormous amount of money every time the printer stops working by design.

    cloudy1999 ,

    A whole other brown ring of quality

    first_ad4972 ,

    Why not just not allow it to connect to any internet and use wired printing?

    EmperorHenry ,
    @EmperorHenry@lemmy.world avatar

    Even better!

    RandomlyAssigned ,

    If they could get away with it, they would have made paper that only works on their printer, and it would be more expensive than normal paper but you have to use it.

    basketdou ,

    Dymo has done that a year ago.

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzSDJRC0F6c

    PipedLinkBot ,

    Here is an alternative Piped link(s): piped.video/watch?v=xzSDJRC0F6c

    Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.

    I’m open-source, check me out at GitHub.

    Ddhuud ,

    What’s next?

    Printed ads.

    CrowAirbrush ,

    I would think it plays an ad on the screen and you have to touch it to start so it knows you’re there and doesn’t print until the ad is finished.

    EmperorHenry ,
    @EmperorHenry@lemmy.world avatar

    Yes

    FlyingSquid ,
    @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

    Oh god, imagine your printer waking you up at 3 am as it spits out an ad for Arby’s. But hey, ink at half price!

    Geriatrickid ,

    I can picture it, if you don’t want ads printed at the bottom of every page you have to subscribe.

    Dasnap ,
    @Dasnap@lemmy.world avatar

    Please drink verification can to continue

    nicerdicer ,

    Actually, someone already came up with the idea of anal fingerprinting, albeit in another context: www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJklHwoYgBQ

    PipedLinkBot ,

    Here is an alternative Piped link(s): piped.video/watch?v=DJklHwoYgBQ

    Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.

    I’m open-source, check me out at GitHub.

    owenfromcanada , to mildlyinfuriating in Who the hell cuts their pizza into fifths?
    @owenfromcanada@lemmy.world avatar
    tatterdemalion ,
    @tatterdemalion@programming.dev avatar

    For parties: just buy more pizza

    CanadaPlus ,

    I like it, except that the crust is all on one end of the “noodle”.

    Resol ,
    @Resol@lemmy.world avatar

    For parties AND for you (when you want some yourself but you’re the one serving to your guests): cut a + shape and serve what’s left. No one will notice that some of the pizza is missing.

    Hypersapien , to mildlyinfuriating in This SUV parking

    That’s not an SUV, it’s a pickup truck.

    Shard ,

    The parking is almost as infuriating as OPs title.

    art ,
    @art@lemmy.world avatar

    Oh, in that case I guess this is fine.

    joyjoy ,

    I thought it was commentary about how both SUVs and pickup trucks are both classified as light trucks, and aren’t required by law to have certain features that come standard in regular cars.

    Eufalconimorph ,

    Bed is shorter than the cab, it’s an SUT.

    Daeraxa ,

    How about a Sporty Lifestyle Utility Truck?

    phoneymouse ,

    Key across the back has the same effect

    Rolive ,

    I’d love to do that but anything could be on camera these days.

    HardlightCereal ,

    No, it’s a ute

    mycelium_underground ,
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    My understanding is that utes are generally unibodies, but that truck definitely has a frame. Based off the wheels and bed cover, it’s a useless truck driven by a dickhead, but a truck just the same.

    jose1324 , to memes in But don't say it out loud

    Nothing mixed. Fully sad he didn’t die and this will cement his win in the coming months. We’re fucked.

    Cowbee ,
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    There’s still time for the DNC to swap Biden out for a more electable candidate and energize their own base again, for what it’s worth, though at this point I think the DNC wants to lose so they can secure more funding.

    skullgiver , (edited ) to programmerhumor in Basically the extent of my IPv6 knowledge
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  • arin ,

    I had network speed issues and the solution was literally to disable ipv6… Fiber 1gbit network still had issues. reddit.com/…/anyone_else_getting_buffering_when_u…

    r00ty Admin ,
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    Weird. Ipv6 and YouTube stats for nerds shows between 140mbit and 600mbit depending on what's being watched and the time of day.

    Is it possible your isp has problems with their ipv6 setup?

    IPv6 overheads should only have a marginal impact on max speeds.

    IphtashuFitz ,

    I’ve heard of all sorts of issues with my fiber ISP (Verizon Fios) rolling out IPv6. It’s been years that they’ve been slowly rolling it out for testing in a few places. There’s virtually no useful documentation on their website about it. And it’s still not available where I am.

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  • arin ,

    4k was fine until I tried watching 8k 60fps HDR on YouTube, disabling IPv6 fixed it. It was weird because speedtest and torrents were completely fine using full bandwidth, just YouTube needed me to disable ipv6

    Vlyn ,

    My ISP doesn’t support IPv6, now what?

    It’s really bullshit.

    eclipse ,

    Hurricane Electric have a free tunnel broker that is super simple to set up if you really want to get on the bandwagon.

    tunnelbroker.net

    Though honestly I’d say the benefits of setting it up aren’t really worth the trouble unless you’re keen.

    FrozenHandle ,

    Yeah it’s a huge source of problems. If you are outside the US your IPv6 prefix is never gonna be correct in every GeoIP database, even if you send a request to have it corrected, so you sometimes get geoblocked and other sites just block you because it sometimes gets classified as VPN.

    eclipse ,

    I agree. GeoIP was never a good idea, but here we are. Any ASN could be broken up and routed wherever (and changed) but it’s still far too prevalent.

    interdimensionalmeme ,

    What’s the best way to spoof geoip on ipv6 ?

    Natanael ,

    It’s the same as IPv4 (tunnel) except as mentioned above its still hard to get an IP with the right label

    hank_and_deans ,

    I did it by acquiring my own AS number and prefix, allowing me to set the geofeed, and announcing it via public BGP from a box in a data center. Took a few days for most things to pick it up the geolocation.

    Appoxo ,
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    Sounds (labor and money) expensive.

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  • deadbeef79000 ,

    I did this until I moved to an ISP that cared about IPv6.

    It was almost trivial even with the ISP’s PoS router.

    smileyhead ,

    Really bullshit ISP indeed.

    eclipse ,

    It also means you no longer need the kludge that is NAT. Full E2E connectivity is really nice – though I’ve found some network admins dislike this idea because they’re so used to thinking about it differently or (mistakenly) think it adds to their security.

    ikidd ,
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    NAT still has its place in obfuscating the internal network. Also, it’s easier to think about firewall/routing when you segregate a network behind a router on its own subnet, IMO.

    zurohki ,

    That’s what temporary privacy addresses are for. Clients can just keep generating new addresses in your /64, which is it’s own subnet.

    eclipse ,

    Given how large the address space is, it’s super easy to segregate out your networks to the nth degree and apply proper firewall rules.

    There’s no reason your clients can’t have public, world routeable IPs as well as security.

    Security via obfuscation isn’t security. It’s a crutch.

    efstajas , (edited )

    There’s no reason your clients can’t have public, world routeable IPs as well as security.

    There are a lot of valid reasons, other than security, for why you wouldn’t want that though. You don’t necessarily want to allow any client’s activity to be traceable on an individual level, nor do you want to allow people to do things like count the number of clients at a particular location. Information like that is just unnecessary to expose, even if hiding it doesn’t make anything more secure per se.

    r00ty Admin ,
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    Well good news. Because ipv6 has a thing called privacy extensions which has been switched on by default on every device I've used.

    That generates random ipv6 addresses (which are regularly rotated) that are used for outgoing connections. Your router should block incoming connections to those ips but the os will too. The proper permanent ip address isn't used for outgoing connections and the address space allocated to each user makes a brute force scan more prohibitive than scanning the whole Ipv4 Internet.

    So I'm going to say that using routable ipv6 addresses with privacy extensions is more secure than a single Ipv4 Nat address with dnat.

    frezik ,

    Obfuscation is not security, and not having IPv6 causes other issues. Including some security/privacy ones.

    There is no problem having a border firewall in IPv6. NAT does not help that situation at all.

    ikidd ,
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    Obfuscation is not security

    Yes, of course. But saying trite things like that doesn’t get around the idea that giving out a map of the internal network by default isn’t the best policy.

    frezik ,

    So instead we open up a bunch of other issues.

    With CGNAT, governments still spy on individual addresses when they want. Since those individual addresses now cover a whole bunch of people, they effectively spy on large groups, most of whom have nothing to do with whatever they’re investigating. At least with IPv6, it’d be targetted.

    NAT obscurity comes at a cost. Its gain is so little that even a small cost eliminates its benefit.

    ikidd ,
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    Governments are not anyone’s issue other than other governments. If your threat model is state actors, you’re SOL either way.

    Making it harder for everyone else is the goal, and to do that you need a swiss cheese model. Hopefully all the holes don’t line up between the layers to make it that much harder to get through. You aren’t plugging all the holes, but every layer you put on makes it a little bit harder.

    And NAT is not just simple to set up, it’s the intuitive base for the last 30 years of firewalls. I don’t see where you get a cost from it. As I said, separating network spaces with it comes naturally at this point. Maybe that’ll change, but I remember using routable IPV4 when it was it the norm, and moving to NAT made that all feel way more natural.

    frezik ,

    Governments are not anyone’s issue other than other governments. If your threat model is state actors, you’re SOL either way.

    That’s a silly way to look at it. Governments can be spying on a block of people at once, or just the one person they actually care about. One is clearly preferable.

    Again, the obscurity benefit of NAT is so small that literally any cost outweighs it.

    I don’t see where you get a cost from it.

    • Firewall rules are more complicated
    • Firewall code is more complicated
    • Firewall hardware has to be beefier to handle it
    • NAT introduces more latency
    • CGNAT introduces even more latency
    • It introduces extra surface area for bugs in the firewall code. Some security related, some not. (I have one NAT firewall that doesn’t want to setup the hairpin correctly for some reason, meaning we have to do a bunch of workarounds using DNS).
    • Lots of applications have to jump through hoops to make it through NAT, such as VoIP services
    • Those hoops sometimes make things more susceptible to snooping; Vonage VoIP, for example, has to use a central server cluster to keep connections open to end users, which is the perfect point to install snooping (and this has happened)
    • . . . and that centralization makes the whole system more expensive and less reliable
    • A bunch of apps just never get built or deployed en masse because they would require direct addressing to work; stuff like a P2P instant messenger
    • Running hosted games with two people behind NAT and two people on the external network gets really complicated
    • . . . something the industry has “fixed” by having “live service” games. In other words, centralized servers.
    • TLS has a field for “Server Name Indication” (SNI) that sends the server name in plaintext. Without going far into the details, this makes it easier for the ISP to know what server you’re asking for, and it exists for reasons directly related to IPv4 sticking around because of NAT. Widespread TLS use would never have been feasible without this compromise as long as we’re stuck with IPv4.

    We forced decisions into a more centralized, less private Internet for reasons that can be traced directly to NAT.

    If you want to hide your hosts, just block non-established, non-related incoming connections at your firewall. NAT does not help anything besides extending IPv4’s life.

    umbrella ,
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    You don’t need to give up IPV6 to have NAT though.

    frezik ,

    But why bother? “Let’s make my network slower and more complicated so it works like a hack on the old thing”.

    AceBonobo ,

    Why do you say NAT doesn’t make a network more secure?

    eclipse ,

    This article is biased to selling you more F5 equipment but is a reasonable summary:

    f5.com/…/the-myth-of-network-address-translation-…

    Long story short is that NAT is eggshell security and you should be relying on actual firewall rules (I wouldn’t recommend F5) instead of the implicit but not very good protections of NAT.

    maccentric ,

    What would you recommend? I have a client with some pretty old hardware (FVS 318) installed that I suspect is causing some issues on their network.

    eclipse ,

    Honestly, these days I have no idea. When I said “wouldn’t recommend” that wasn’t an assertion to avoid; just a lack of opinion. Most of my recent experience is with Cloud vendors wherein the problem domain is quite different.

    I’ve had experience with most of the big vendors and they’ve all had quirks etc. that you just have to deal with. Fundamentally it’ll come down to a combination of price, support requirements, and internal competence with the kit. (Don’t undermine the last item; it’s far better if you can fix problems yourself.)

    Personally I’d actually argue that most corporates could get by with a GNU/Linux VM (or two) for most of their routing and firewalling and it would absolutely be good enough; functionally you can do the same and more. That’s not to say dedicated machines for the task aren’t valuable but I’d say it’s the exception rather than rule that you need ASICs and the like.

    frezik ,

    It wasn’t designed for a security purpose in the first place. So turn the question around: why does NAT make a network more secure at all?

    The answer is that it doesn’t. Firewalls work fine without NAT. Better, in fact, because NAT itself is a complication firewalls have to deal with, and complications are the enemy of security. The benefits of obfuscating hosts behind the firewall is speculative and doesn’t outweigh other benefits of end to end addressing.

    AceBonobo ,

    The main benefit of a NAT is that by default it prevents all external access to the hosts inside the network. Any port you have open is not accessible unless explicitly forwarded.

    This has a lot of security benefits. Regardless, everything you said is sounds true to me.

    frezik , (edited )

    You can get exactly the same benefit by blocking non-established/non-related connections on your firewall. NAT does nothing to help security.

    Edit: BTW–every time I see this response of “NAT can prevent external access”, I severely question the poster’s networking knowledge. Like to the level where I wonder how you manage to config a home router correctly. Or maybe it’s the way home routers present the interface that leads people to believe the two functions are intertwined when they aren’t.

    AceBonobo , (edited )

    I didn’t mean prevent, just makes it harder by default. You can still open connections from within the NAT

    Edit: I do admit to failing at accessing my IPv6 PC from my IPv6 phone

    Edit2: apparently NAT is full of security bugs

    frezik ,

    If your home router blocked incoming connections on IPv4 by default now, then it’s likely to continue doing so for IPv6. At least, I would hope so. The manufacturer did a bad job if otherwise.

    AceBonobo ,

    I figure the mobile carrier was blocking incoming connections to my phone. This was a couple of years ago, things might have changed since then.

    hank_and_deans ,

    Yeah, no. If remote hosts could not send traffic to hosts behind NAT almost nothing would work.

    The hacks employed to make NAT work make security worse, not better.

    AceBonobo , (edited )

    You’re talking about NAT traversal? We do have control over which we apps we run though?

    Edit: apparently NAT is full of bugs

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  • AceBonobo , (edited )

    I still have to initiate the outgoing UDP. Are you talking about the specific case where any software running on my host can initiate it without me requesting?

    Edit: apparently NAT is full of security bugs

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  • AceBonobo ,

    Understood. CG-NAT has been so annoying, I would love for IPv6 to completely replace v4 ASAP

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  • AceBonobo ,

    Thank you

    digdilem ,

    I think you’ll find some ISPs will be reluctant to let go of CGNAT - they’re doing quite nicely by charging extra for ‘commercial’ services where it’s not in the way.

    Fortunately, many of us know about cloudflare tunnelling and other services, so NAT really isn’t a problem to self hosters and even SMEs any more.

    smb ,

    ipv6 in companies… ipv6 is not hard, but for internal networking no company (really) “needs” more than rfc1918 address space. thus any decision in that direction is always “less” needed than any bonus for (da)magement personnel is crucial for the whole companies survival…

    for companies services to be reachable from outside/ipv6 mostly “only” the loadbalancers/revproxies etc need to be ipv6 ready but … this i.e. also produces logs that possibly break decades old regexes that no one understands any more (as the good engineers left due to too many boni payed to damagement personnel) while other access/deny rules that could break or worse let through where they should block (remember that 192.168. could the local part of ipv6 IF sone genious used a matching mech that treats the dot “.” as a wildcard as overpayed damagement personnel made them rush too fast), could be hidden “somewhere”. altogether technical debt is a huge blocker for everything, especially company growth, and if no customer “demands” ipv6, then it stays on the damagement personnels list as “fulfilling the whishes of engineers to keep them happy” instead of on the always deleted “cleaning up technical debt caused by damagement personnel” list.

    setting up firewalls for ipv6 is quite easy and if you go the finegrained “whitelisted or drop/block” approach from the beginning it might take a bit for ipv6 specials to be known to you, but the much bigger thing is IMHO the then current state of firewall rules. and who knows every existing rule? what rules should be removed already and must not be ported to ipv6? usually firewalls and their rules are a big mess due to … again too many boni payed to damagement personnel, hindering the company from the needed steps forward…

    ipv6 adoption is slow for reasons that are driving huge cars that in turn speed up other problems ;-|

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  • smb ,

    i once had to look at a firefall appliance cluster, (discovered, it could not do any failover in its current state but somehow the decider was ok with that) but when looking at its logs, i discovered an rsh and rcp access from an ip address that belonged to a military organisation from a different continent. i had to make it a security incident. later the vendor said that this was only the cluster internal routing (over the dedicated crosslink), used for synchronisation (the thing that did not work) and was only used by a separate routing table only for clustersync and that could never be used for real traffic. but why not simply use an ip that you “own” by yourself and PTR it with a hint about what this ip is used for? instead of customers scratching their head why military still uses rcp and rsh. i guess because no company reads firewall logs anyway XD

    someone elses ip? yes! becuase they’ll never find out !!1!

    i really appreciate that ipv6 has things like a dedicated documentation address range and that fc00:/7 is nicely short.

    242 , to lemmyshitpost in Not to mom shame...

    So let’s assume that radio waves can control your mind and that tinfoil can stop the radio waves… what good is covering just the top of your head? Couldn’t the radio waves strike the mind from a lower angle? This defense is basically useless.

    Neato ,
    @Neato@ttrpg.network avatar

    Your teeth are natural mind-control blockers. Dentin is the best radiation-absorber this side of lead paint!

    Sparky ,
    @Sparky@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

    Lead teeth?

    spicytuna62 ,
    @spicytuna62@lemmy.world avatar

    You’re asking them to think. That’s your first mistake.

    Holzkohlen ,

    Also if you do wear a tinfoil hat, there is no brain worth protecting in there. My favorite paradox

    Kusimulkku ,

    I think it’s dumb to assume they don’t think at all. It is just that their thinking is seriously flawed

    thisbenzingring ,

    see… AM radio waves go up and bounce down, this makes it so they can travel farther and give you better reception when you are out in the boonies but the cost comes when the weather isn’t very good. FM broadcasts its waves in a more side ways that works best with line of site.

    This lady is clearly frightened of the AM talk radio and religious nut waves coming from they sky and not of the cool easy jazz and soft hits of the 60’s 70’s and 80’s

    Yondoza ,

    I took some antenna theory courses back in the day and yes, you are correct. Some frequencies reflect off the upper atmosphere so there would be a longer effective range at higher incident angles (going into the top of the head) but it wouldn’t completely block radio waves. Going from memory, the wavelengths that reflect off the upper atmosphere are long enough that a tin foil hat wouldn’t cause much interference anyways.

    TLDR: Fashionable, but not practical.

    realbadat ,

    Just to add - this “hat” would also likely improve reception.

    Yondoza ,

    Certainly could if it had good contact. If it was air gapped (held up by hair), it could be an effective barrier for shorter wavelengths.

    MrShankles ,

    Lower frequencies (like the HF range) can propagate further due to reflection/refraction with the earth and the ionosphere. Increasing the frequency can lead to e-skip and troposhpeheric ducting. But even the HF range has shorter wavelengths than our brains, which operate in much lower frequencies (Hz vs MHz). So you would think that our brainwaves would pass through tin-foil much more easily

    But it’s the tin-foil’s electro-conduction that “foils” the electromagnetic waves’ (i.e radio waves’) ability to pass through it. But you would have to have no gaps in the tin-foil to completely block all waves from passing through. So like, an entire foil suit or a walking Faraday cage.

    TL;DR - it’s not about the length of the electromagnetic wave, it’s the electro-conduction (insulating) property of the tin-foil that matters

    Swedneck ,
    @Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

    people who seriously think stuff like that is real don’t subscribe to the same model of reality as we do, they just merrily invent models to describe things in whatever way enables their delusions.

    they don’t think of radio as anything so fancy as waves or particles, it’s just a nebulous concept that works however they need it to for them to justify their insane beliefs.

    Sabata11792 ,

    There’s a small group of very talented gnomes inside of all radios that replay any songs they have heard before. This use to be a great arrangement for all gnomes and humans as the gnomes would receive housing and the humans get music.

    Unfortunately gnomes are greedy lil shits and they ruined their cultural practice with advertising and rampant capitalism. They have completely destroyed their art form and integrity for the almighty dollar resulting is the decline of radio and the gnome housing crisis. The gnomes moved to the internet but over-saturated the music market making their was of living no longer viable. A few gnomes that have cornered the market while the rest live in abject poverty unable to compete.

    dexa_scantron ,
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    voltaa ,

    I take apart bombs, missiles and other explosive ordnance for a living, and sometimes we have to wrap certain components or fuzes in aluminum foil to lower the effects of RF on them for transport. The general rule I follow is if you could put it underwater and water would get in, then radio frequencies won’t be deadened. So if she wants to be protected then she would have to create a watertight seal around her head and do us all a favor.

    MargotRobbie , to lemmyshitpost in The Patriarchy
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    Even though this is an obviously AI generated picture (which makes it funnier BTW), this seems like a fun shenanigan to pull on the weekends.

    The best part is that nobody will recognize you with the velociraptor masks on.

    goldenbough ,

    The most unbelievable part is Hagerstown.

    PlexSheep ,

    Not that the name of the account has Serrif instead of Sheriff?

    BlueMagma ,

    Careful with this kind of jokes, it needs to be as obvious as possible that it is one. Some people are morons and can become violent for shit like this. Remember the guy who got shot dressed as a scary clown (probably as a joke)

    the_grass_trainer ,

    It IS obvious though. Look at the closeup of the one wearing red. Now look at the sidewalk.

    rickyrigatoni ,

    Now look at your man. Now back to me.

    aidan ,

    If your intention is to scare people who didn’t sign up for it iirc that is assault.

    BlueMagma ,

    Yes exactly, that’s why it needs to be obviously a joke, every one should be amused or neutral about it, no one should be scared.

    Etterra ,

    Yeah I mean when was the last time you saw a dinosaur having a cigarette?

    BlueMagma ,

    Can’t remember ever seeing one, but I always assumed it’s because they don’t get high from nicotin.

    gravitas_deficiency ,

    Clever girl.

    imaqtpie , to lemmyshitpost in Honeypot
    tfw_no_toiletpaper ,

    🫳 Yoink

    boatsnhos931 ,

    You betta not!!

    theangryseal , (edited )

    Three commies don’t think you’re very funny.

    Edit:

    Ooh we up to five commies.

    Well if you go carrying pictures of chairman Pooh, you ain’t gonna make it with anyone so boo hoo!

    Almrond ,

    Good, I think it’s hilarious and if they don’t they can fuck off. I love having the freedom to criticize and hold accountable the public figures in society. They don’t hold themselves accountable.

    v4ld1z ,
    @v4ld1z@lemmy.zip avatar

    raise your dongers

    Socsa ,

    You have been banned from Lemmy.ml

    Monstera ,

    I really don’t get why Xi didn’t adopt the nickname as something cute when it began

    PiratePanPan ,
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    BREAKING: Hexbear has defederated from lemmy.myserv.one

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