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Mr_Blott , to memes in Brits: Salt is a spice

Meanwhile yanks with their two spices - butter and sugar

“Our food is the tastiest in the wuuuurld”

Aye but yous can’t afford that coronary eh mate 😂

IsThisAnAI ,

I mean obviously you’ve never taken the time to explore the US. US food is utterly fantastic.

Our beer is better too.

Mr_Blott ,

Bri’ish food is some of the best in the world too. Because we know how to use spices and not high fructose corn syrup

halcyoncmdr ,
@halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world avatar

Name a British food that uses spices that wasn’t brought by colonization.

SpaceNoodle ,

Eels

Tomato666 ,

Used to be a speciality of the city of Ely, Cambridgeshire.

UckyBon ,

Are you a native American or one of those colonizers?

halcyoncmdr ,
@halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world avatar

That has nothing to do with the topic at hand, you’re just trying to change the topic, and think that somehow calling out America’s history of colonization (by not only Britain mind you) is some sort of “gotcha” moment.

But I’ll bite. Personally, European descent. But many native friends and family members, and lots of time volunteering with local native non-profits and political campaigns. Which is likely more than 99% of Americans could say about any sort of native support.

I’m on the west coast, you know where all the natives were forced to move. Many of the “illegals” the bigots complain about in my area are actually Native Americans or have native ancestry.

But none of that is about the topic at hand, food and Britain’s lack of utilizing the spices they spent so much effort to get.

AlpacaChariot ,

Wew lad

Maeve ,

Your asked them to name a spice they had that wasn't brought by colonization. They were being entirely relevant to your question. I believe that's called "moving the goal posts." I also just stuck my foot in my mouth elsewhere. Lol

UckyBon ,

🤪

Maeve ,

You already know ..

Mr_Blott ,

And how, in your wee head, does the fact that it came about due to colonisation make it not British?

Prunebutt , (edited )

Sheperd’s pie

halcyoncmdr ,
@halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world avatar

A major part of that is obviously potatoes, which originated in South America. They were brought back to Europe through colonization of the Americas. Just like tomatoes and corn.

For spices though, looking up a few recipes to check it looks like usually thyme, rosemary, and parsley are used, which are Mediterranean and Western Eurasia. So maybe… My memory of English colonialism and time-frames closer to home is more lacking.

Prunebutt ,

Dammit, forgot the potatoes.

If I took a guess, then thyme, rosemary and parsley have been brought to the country waay back when the british isles where being conquered instead of doing the conquering.

Prunebutt , (edited )

What’s the difference between the US and a cup of yoghurt?

Yoghurt will have developed a culture after being left alone for 250 years. /j

Edit: Sorry, should have said "what’s the difference between white Americans.

MrFappy ,

We have so many unique individual cultures it’s absolutely ridiculous. E fuckin G, south central LA black culture, WASP rich ass folk, southern bumpkin, Texan, midwestern, New York. Those are a handful of examples, but each is so thoroughly unique, with different accents and culinary offerings, and dress styles ALL OF WHICH in some way influence cultures across the globe. Each state honestly has its own cultural offerings, but as a whole, to say that the U.S. doesn’t have culture is moronic.

Prunebutt ,

It’s a joke, relax.

MadBob ,

We have so many unique individual cultures it’s absolutely ridiculous.

Fair enough that the USA has culture but that’s a bit far, considering the size of the place.

IsThisAnAI ,

You have your yoghurt. I’ll take the bbq, whiskey, and our massive dining industry that produces the best food on the planet.

Prunebutt ,

Lol. You can keep your bland Whisky (I’ll take Irish, thanks) and your industrially processed junk food, filled to the brim with corn sirup.

IsThisAnAI ,

🙄👌🤣

I bet your one of those people who shit on Louisiana while forgetting Hungary is a thing 🤣.

It’s always so obvious when someone who hasn’t stepped foot in the country and gets their entire life view based on Reddit lemmy comments.

Edit: oh we’re on .ML of fucking course, this makes more sense. This is pointless you had your mind made up joining the instance.

Prunebutt , (edited )

Check my instance again, smartass.

Ididn’t get the suffocating prevalence of corn sirup in the US from reddit/lemmy, but rather from health resources and people from the US.

For real: all that cultural bashing is pointless to begin with. But claimingthat the US has “the best food” when Italy, the middle and far east exist: come on!

Edit: oh no! The 'muricans found my comments. Better prepare for a state funded coup, enforcing neoliberalism through fascists in my country.

Maeve ,

It's in everything, along with plenty of salt and cancer causing dyes and artificial flavoring. Even our locally sourced, home farm based meats and vegetables are laden with chemicals and virtually zero nutritional value because hardly anyone let's soil lie fallow, and doesn't use a tin of Miracle Grow and weed killer. I'm my specific area, you can't even find chicken feed that's nutritious for the birds and almost no one free-ranges. The closest you'll find in my area are a pig that's given table scraps in addition to feed, and no one knows what's in either chicken or hog feed, unless it's cracked corn, and well... You get it.

NoIWontPickaName ,

You seem very... defensive about your choices here.

Prunebutt ,

Come again?

Maeve ,

I'm very sorry and embarrassed most people from my country are this way, and very sorry for how you've experienced us itt. I really like Mediterranean and Thai food, though I'm not particularly good at making them from scratch. I did enjoy a decent-enough-for-frozen-but-by-no-means-decent eggplant Parmesan the other day, and the standard American version of pad Thai a couple of months ago, when I was out in a larger town. No lettuce rolls, though.

lightnegative , (edited )

I’m not even American but lol at calling triple distilled Irish whiskey less bland than bourbon.

Irish whiskey is like the lager of whiskeys, about as bland as it gets

John_McMurray ,

You guys don’t age your common bourbons long enough though.

bluewing ,

It depends on where the bourbon gets made. Very generally, the temperatures cycles vary a lot more more than in Great Britain. So the bourbon “ages” faster than Scotch or Irish whiskys. So bourbons have to be younger and that can make them somewhat sharper in flavor. Plus the requirement of using new oak barrels also cuts the time spent in the barrel.

John_McMurray ,

“Sharper” is one way to say “aged so little still smells of paint thinner” I guess. Find a bottle of say Alberta Premium or a good Canadian Rye whisky (or even Crown Royal, though that’s a lame barley whisky) and give a good sniff. There’s a huge difference to the bourbons unless you get spending

Maeve ,

Yank here. Most of us were raised on American Exceptionalism which has been pounded into our head since birth, for a few generations. There's no point arguing this, because murica...

Prunebutt ,

I thought lemmy was leftie enough to not be pounced by jingoists right away. TIL

Maeve , (edited )

We'll you're arguing with Americans where "left" barely means "center" or "right but not far right." * See also the DK effect.

  • Edited. After just having read a reply to my saying that Joe Biden is a low bar set for a Democrat, being called a c*** and saying wished rooting in hell, I must retract the bit about ”not far right."
robocall OP ,
@robocall@lemmy.world avatar

American here. I have never seen a fellow American refer to themself as a Yank. I thought that word was reserved for WWII British soldiers.

Maeve ,

You never sang "Yankee Doodle," or "Yankee Doodle Dandy" on July 4, even as a kid? I'm southern as can be and these were staples on the Fourth, Memorial and Labor Days, as well as bright red hotdogs, chips (crisps), soda and Budweiser and PBR.

robocall OP ,
@robocall@lemmy.world avatar

I’ve heard those songs, but it doesn’t mean I call myself a yank in conversation. It sounds antiquated.

Maeve ,

Well there you go. I'm an antique!

bluewing ,

Irish whiskey? Triple pot stilled to strip out all the flavors? Dang near vodka for depth of flavor. (I jest - I do enjoy a good Irish whiskey myself).

Now bourbon is the drink of the gods. Rich deep complex flavors that fill your taste buds with joy. It’s so good the Scots and even the Irish use our used bourbon barrels to impart those complex flavors and taste to their whiskys.

MY_ANUS_IS_BLEEDING ,

Been to the US a few times. Your food tastes extremely average and the only difference to anywhere else is that it has about 3 times the kcals and half the nutrition. I’ve had heartburn and constipation virtually every time I’ve visited.

And your beer is possibly the worst in the world. It’s pisswater.

With opinions like that I’d be surprised if you’ve even left your own state, let alone the country.

Maggoty ,

Where the heck did you eat? Corporate McSteakhouse? If the response when asked about beer is Bud or Coors then blink twice, you need help.

StereoTrespasser ,

And your beer is possibly the worst in the world. It’s pisswater.

C’mon, stop it. We Americans are bad at many things, but no one can refute that Americans have created some damn good beer over the last two decades.

Nacktmull , (edited )
@Nacktmull@lemmy.world avatar

American “beer” lol. Laughs in German.

Edit: Grumpy Muricans, your downvotes only prove my point!

IsThisAnAI ,

We do dopplebock far better here.

pimeys ,

But finding the actual great German beer, the blessed helles, is not super easy in US. People seem to think all these bocks are super common in Germany, but it’s actually helles what everybody drinks (and pils in the north). Helles is extremely hard to brew correctly, it requires a very specific temperature and pure ingredients.

I spent most of my vacation in US last year finding a good helles from a bar. I found one after many tries, and the closest I could get to a bavarian helles was in Weaverville, in Leveller Brewing Co. I went to thank the owner for this great beer, and he told me he studied brewing in Bavaria and brewing that beer took a lot of trial and error.

Edit: somebody soon comes to tell how easy it is to find helles in US. Yes, but it often doesn’t taste how it should. Or you get some old bottled stock of Augustiner that is not a same thing as fresh Augustiner in Munich.

IsThisAnAI ,

I’ve never once been in a town without a beer place within 20 minutes that has more selection than you could try in your entire life before dying of liver failure. Christ most grocery stores have at least an aisle dedicated to food selection.

This is entirely made up.

Nacktmull ,
@Nacktmull@lemmy.world avatar

So you say the only good beer you got is a beer you copied from us?

Prunebutt ,

Lol. As if you’ve ever even tried the local bavarian breweries (the stuff they sell on Oktoberfest doesn’t count)! xD

IsThisAnAI ,

While I haven’t lived there I’ve done several trips through the country. Maybe 7 weeks in total? I’d choose Belgium if I were to choose a regional winner.

Tomato666 ,

American beer is not in anyway better than European beer or even English beer.

Something something tastes like piss.

I think you Americans are beginning the long road to good beer with all your craft ales, but you’ve got a way to go yet.

IsThisAnAI ,

Something something base an entire market off of a 30 year old meme. You have no clue what you are talking about. Just making up shit 🤣

How much time have you spent in the states?

Mr_Blott ,
Mr_Blott ,

American modern beers - Just keep throwing hops at it until it stops tasting like piss. Doesn’t matter if it tastes more like a bunch of daffodils than beer, we’ll just call it “craft” 😂

robocall OP ,
@robocall@lemmy.world avatar

daffodils are pretty and make me smile

Maeve ,

"I wondered lonely as a cloud..."

Mr_Blott ,

Nice spelling, Wordsworth

Maeve ,

😂. Wandered, wondered. Oops

bluewing ,

Yeah, Prohibition killed all the beer we had and we did have good beer right up until then. And it’s been a long road back. Those large US breweries are still far more interested in cheap ingredients made cheaply.

But you can find good craft beers scattered amongst the bad craft beers if you look. And home brewing is maybe more popular in the US than Europe, but I’m not sure of that.

Tomato666 ,

You make a good point about prohibition, I guess that will have had a significant effect. Maybe there are more artisan spirits in the US now having been driven by people with secret stills making moonshine in that period. It’ll be interesting to see where you guys go with the relaxation of marijuana laws. Maybe people will be home breeding new strains.

bluewing ,

Oddly, moonshine and bathtub “gin” became quite the impetus for the popularity of cocktails, at least in the US. Since the added flavors tended to hide the rotgut taste of the illicit booze. And the loss of beer breweries had the effect of giving rise to ice cream parlors and soda fountains since saloons had to close. Plus as Minnesotan, I feel the need to apologize for the Volstead Act, as it became known, since Andrew Volstead was a Minnesota House of Representative and Chairman of the House Judicial Committee and was pretty instrumental in getting prohibition enacted. Scandinavian Protestantism ™ is not a good thing by in large.

01011 ,

American Pizza > Italian Pizza.

IsThisAnAI ,

Correct.

Mr_Blott ,

American pizza= more greasy than Italian pizza. That’s why you think it tastes better

robocall OP ,
@robocall@lemmy.world avatar

Some American pizzas are more greasy than Italian pizza, but not all. America has so many varieties of pizza that Italians would dismiss as not pizza.

IsThisAnAI ,

Because they are pretentious. They’ll give you shit for ordering cappuccino at night.

SnipingNinja ,

What? Why would they give you shit for that?

IsThisAnAI ,

Because it’s not culturally acceptable. Seriously, try it. It’s insane.

Maeve ,

I've never had a decent American beer. PBR is the closest to decent I've ever had.

NoIWontPickaName ,

Depends what you are looking for.

I've had awesome stouts that were so stout they could double as a meal, and I've had island beers that were nice for a long hot afternoon of fishing or cooling down after out side work.

Tbf, im not a beer snob though and choose primarily based on activity and temperature of day.

Maeve , (edited )

I usually like Newcastle Summer, I'm not a fan of Stella. Blue Moon is acceptable. But since neither that nor Newcastle is sold as singles near me (and a 12 oz or pint not even once a week, at most twice a month is the most I'll drink at one time), that usually means Heineken. I've 2 pint cans in the fridge now (I prefer bottles), but that is because I'm the last month, a neighbor has brought me three, in return for small favors. And the first was lovely, to wash* down a nice potato poon. It balances the sweetness nicely.

ETA: tbh I hate stouts, but I'm really not a beer drinker. When I drank liquors occasionally, I usually preferred a pricier tequila or single malt Scotch, and being on limited funds, that curbs that, nicely.

The only time I've ever had Irish whisky was in Bailey's, but if anyone can recommend a good Irish, I'll keep it in mind.

Mr_Blott ,

Newcastle Summer?

Beer that tastes like rain, wet sausage rolls and tracksuit armpits, I’m guessing

Maeve ,

American beer! No thanks.

IsThisAnAI ,

I appreciate you admitting you’ve never stepped foot in an American beer store.

Maeve ,

And I appreciate your admitting you ASSume way too much. Murica, heck yeah!

IsThisAnAI ,

If the best beer you can find was PBR you’re incompetent. Calling me an ass because you went directly to bitten of the barrel swill. Jesus Christ lololol.

Maeve ,

Whoosh!

Let me break it down: I never said any of what you just ASSumed, twice now. You didn't make an ass of me twice, however. And are quite intent on proving my point of American exceptionalism. You haven't even the wherewithal to look it up, nor feel embarrassment for it, which is why other cultures generally find us not only ignorant, but obnoxious as well.

IsThisAnAI ,

👌👍 you are just making shit up you read on the Internet and justifying with insane circular logic. Deranged shit 🤣

Prunebutt ,

Nah, they’re being spot on, tbh.

Maeve ,

Sigh. Unfortunately. For all the ones who do deserve djt/Biden, I beg your pardon and please remember some of us watch with abject horror.

Prunebutt ,

Yeah, don’t worry. I know that the population of the so-called US have been a target of extremely effective jingoist propaganda. It’s not reallyyour fault and a decent junk of the people there are decent people, I’m sure.

Maeve ,

Thank you.

SwingingTheLamp ,

You’re really missing out! In my opinion, PBR is the best of the “cheap and shitty” tier of mass-produced beer that rednecks and poor college students drink to get smashed. It’s not good, exactly, but somehow nostalgic to me for drinking around a campfire. The U.S. has plenty of mass-produced beer that’s still mediocre, but better than PBR, and some that’s even pretty decent. It’s in the craft breweries that you’ll find the really great American beer, though.

Maeve ,

I've been to craft breweries and several tastings at various ones. I just didn't find much that agree with my palate, but as I said, I'm not a beer person, in general. My friend back home used to make a rather nice home brew. I believe he may have used molasses to some extent, but it's been a very long time ago, and most of my alcohol consumption was from home brewed corn or fruit and heavily distilled. Except my grandmother's fruit concoctions, consisting of preserves, jams, jellies and way too sweet wines. They still beat Boone's Farm, MD and Triple Peach, though.

SwingingTheLamp ,

Haha, okay, so as not-a-beer-person, I guess you’re not really missing out. Fair enough.

Maeve ,

No, but American beer is still nasty.

Maeve ,

When I was a kid, Old Milwaukee came 8 ponies to a pack for less than $3. It was extremely popular, especially the shotgunnable cans. Thank heaven a friend's dad had a still, is all in saying.

robocall OP ,
@robocall@lemmy.world avatar

America has beer at the grocery store like Bud light, Coors light, and PBR, which all kind of taste the same to me. but most cities have local micro breweries for fresher beer, and more distinctive regional flavors.

Maeve ,

C'mon, any Bud variety is bested by the others.

obelix ,
@obelix@lemmy.world avatar

I know you’re probably just trolling but LOL.

01011 ,

You’ve never had Cajun cuisine. Or good Tex-Mex. Or soul food. All brilliant when made by the right chef.

obelix ,
@obelix@lemmy.world avatar

I have, and you’re right, it’s delicious. The silly, throwaway comment about beer was what sent me. 😂

halcyoncmdr ,
@halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world avatar

You are clearly making a poor joke, but… Butter is literally what the French are known for. Sugarcane is from the South Pacific and sugar itself originated in India.

Southern and Creole cuisine originated in America however, and that uses a ton of spices on par with native Indian cuisine.

Prunebutt ,

Industrial use of high fructose corn sirup is all American Capitalism, though.

… And southern france hardly uses butter btw.

sugar itself originated in India

Lol, what? Also: it’s not about where the stuff came from but rather what the cuisine does with it. Italian or German cuisine doesn’t become south american all of a sudden cause of tomatoes and potatoes.

Maggoty ,

Look I feel sorry for the Italians and the Germans but their food is American now. It’s just the way the world works. :)-

Sweetpeaches69 ,

Just curious, but what does Southern France use as their fat to cook with, then? I’m visiting in a month.

Prunebutt ,

Olive oil, just like any other mediterranean cuisine. In that climate, butter goes rancid in a heartbeat.

FlorianSimon ,

Olive oil

01011 ,

Is this where we pretend that Brits don’t consume obscene amounts of sugar and butter?

Mr_Blott ,

No, there’s no point pretending they’re not fat cunts as well

But we’re pretending they don’t consume vast amounts of spices too. They’re fat smelly cunts tbh

match ,
@match@pawb.social avatar

pretty sure you mean canola oil and hfcs

pyrflie , (edited )

Butter was a luxury prior to 150 years ago limited to a hard 20 mile radius of milk farms. 10 if you wanted it to taste good.

Sugar was similarly limited due to either trade with the far east or the establishment of colonies in the west indies. Russia didn’t have a sugar source until sugar beets in the late 1850s.

Most regional European cuisines were developed in the 1700s with the introduction of Tomatoes and Potatoes from the Americas. Both of the spices called out were still luxuries at the time.

RageAgainstTheRich , to programmerhumor in Solutions? Where we're going, we don't need solutions.

C: “Segmentation fault.”

Where?

C: 🤷🏻

BeigeAgenda ,
@BeigeAgenda@lemmy.ca avatar

Then you open the core file with GDB and hope the stack is not smashed.

PixelProf ,

I don’t know why, but I still can’t open a core file without going I’m in. I don’t do QA, though, and so tinkering with final breath of my program frozen in time maintains some novelty.

Classy ,

C: gestures vaguely everywhere

veniasilente ,
@veniasilente@lemm.ee avatar

C++: “You just pointed to all of me.

vox ,
@vox@sopuli.xyz avatar

gdb -> where

themeatbridge , to lemmyshitpost in I don't understand the question.

See, “with” could mean two different things. Am I fucking the condor? Or is the condor just present while I fuck someone else, and maybe helping?

But the “without” option strongly suggests the latter. Having sex without a condor means it isn’t there in the room to assist. There’s no way to interpret that as an alternative to having sex with a condor.

boredtortoise ,

I think it’s like a chaperone or sex coach

Infynis ,
@Infynis@midwest.social avatar

I couldn’t even comprehend the idea of sex without a condor

Buddahriffic ,

Another interpretation is to have sex (with your partner) nearby a condor having sex (with their partner). If that’s what they are asking about, I would advise against it, because birds are pretty quick at sex and you don’t want to be distracted with having your own sex when two condors get hungry after having theirs. They’d probably even eat you all romantic-like and share both you and your partner Lady and the Tramp style.

Though for the “having sex without a condor”, it could just mean having sex with anything other than a condor. Which I would also advise.

I’ve played King’s Quest V, so I’m something of an expert on condors. My general advice is “Prefer to do everything without a condor.” Even if your best friend is an owl, they don’t gaf.

FlyingSquid OP ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

King’s Quest V

Wouldn’t it be amazing if Sierra On-Line still existed as its own company? Roberta Williams hasn’t made a game since 1999 when King’s Quest: Mask of Eternity flopped and she quit.

Buddahriffic ,

I’m just glad she lived in a time when a couple of people who had no prior experience with video games could just say, “Let’s make a game” and do it.

Though apparently it was the new corporate ownership of Sierra that frustrated her (though it could have been directly linked with the flopping of the game).

And apparently she was a part of a 3d remake of colossal cave adventure that was released in Jan 2023.

FlyingSquid OP ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Oh wow! I didn’t know about the Colossal Cave remake! I’m going to check that out. Thanks!

unexposedhazard , to lemmyshitpost in Look at how they cover their vital areas when surprised!

The word “almost” is doing a lot of work here.

someguy3 , to memes in This new baby gets ALL the attention!

I can’t believe the GOP called Biden an appeaser on these 3 deaths while they hold up military aid for Ukraine. Unbelievable.

CableMonster ,

Why are we continuing to give Ukraine aid at all? It literally is just killing more people.

joelimgu ,

Considering the war in ukr rn exists bc nobody helped ukr the first time, I think we should give the right message to Putin so that it doesn’t start another war

vzq ,

They shot down an airliner full of Dutch and Australian citizens and we were all 🤷‍♀️

This was the least surprising war ever.

ExtraPartsLeft ,

Source? I haven't seen anything about this.

Person264 ,

Flight MH17

Localhorst86 ,

It was over 9 years ago when Russia invaded Ukraine with their little green men.

en.m.wikipedia.org/…/Malaysia_Airlines_Flight_17

PM_Your_Nudes_Please ,

Flight MH17. It was pretty big news at the time, but the various countries involved basically did fuck all about it.

CableMonster ,

The war in Ukraine exists because of agression by the west, but I guess we are just doing “Putin is hilter!!!” thing.

davel ,
@davel@lemmy.ml avatar

You’ve been flagged as a sock puppet account for this by a conspiracy theorist.

Chris Hedges: Why Russiagate Won’t Go Away

gravitas_deficiency ,

Lmao are you fuckin high? wtf is that site?

davel , (edited )
@davel@lemmy.ml avatar
davel , (edited )
@davel@lemmy.ml avatar

I’ve got bad news for you, @gravitas_deficiency: I’m the mod who received your “spam or abuse” report.

gravitas_deficiency ,

Good to know.

someguy3 ,

Read about WW2 and appeasing Hitler.

CableMonster ,

Russia is not Germany and the comparison is weak at best.

someguy3 ,

Lol obvious troll is obvious. No wonder your account is only 3 days old.

CableMonster ,

Oh gotcha, you dong have a good reasoned argument, so you go straight to ad hominem. Nice work!

someguy3 ,

Thank you!

xor ,

because it’s killing people who are invading and committing genocide on other people…
it literally is just saving lives

CableMonster ,

If the war was over, wouldnt that save more lives?

PM_Your_Nudes_Please ,

If the allied forces never fought against the Nazis, wouldn’t all the Jews still be alive? No reason to kill the Jews if there’s no war, right? /s

xor ,

no… it’s a genocide.
see also: www.reuters.com/…/ukraine-crisis-children/

CableMonster ,

Do you realize that if the west had not intervened, the war would be over, Ukraine would have more territory, and tens to hundreds of thousands of people would still be alive?

theUnlikely ,

Ukraine would have MORE territory? Is this just a joke that I don’t understand?

HenriVolney ,

Found the troll

CableMonster ,

Found the guy that just repeats propaganda

ysjet ,

Yes, and it’s you. Fuck off and go away.

AnonTwo ,

What makes you think the killing will stop?

If your reason is "Because they will be dead", then I think you have your answer.

wandermind ,

Why did the US fight against Japan after Pear Harbor? It just meant that more people got killed, both American and Japanese.

Why did the Soviet Union fight against Nazi Germany? It literally was just killing more people, both Soviet and German.

CableMonster ,

Because they could win is why they fought. Since Ukraine wont win, why fight?

wandermind ,

Why did the North Vietnamese fight against the United States? Surely they could not have won?

Why did the Afghani fight against the Soviet Union? There’s no way they could win against a superpower, right?

CableMonster ,

Those are different kinds of wars. Insurgent wars are different than wars between two established governments. Do you understand the difference?

SapphironZA ,

The US said the same thing about helping Czeckslovakia, then Poland, then Yugoslavia, then France.

Sticking your head in the sand to ignore a problem, does not do anything to address it.

CableMonster ,

Sure, but I we can look at the actual facts and see that giving Ukraine money has harmed them in the long run and they are about to lose so why have them waste more lives instead of negotiate?

S3igHillalolp_78 ,

Next time vote with your 🧠

lolcatnip ,

Lying is like breathing to them. I’m not surprised at all. And after watching it go on for approximately my whole life, I’m not surprised their voters believe them, either.

ItsAFake , to lemmyshitpost in You Are
Mr_Blott , to piracy in I hope someday we'll find a way to pirated a car

The only problem with services as a subscription is THE FUCKING IDIOTS THAT PAY FOR THEM

If nobody fell for shit like that, manufacturers would drop it like boiling diarrhea

devilish666 OP ,

Finally someone who gets it
Glad to see you here my fellow comrades

cerulean_blue ,

This is true.

Go and buy a car from a manufacturer who doesn’t insist on subscriptions… whilst you still can!

antipiratgruppen ,

Something like the XBUS seems like a good choice. They seem to focus on the important and practical stuff, and I can’t find any information about any sort of related subscription.

Gooey0210 ,

This is where capitalism is failing because people are dumb 🤷

ICastFist ,
@ICastFist@programming.dev avatar

This is where capitalism is thriving because people are dumb

Fixed. It thrives on human stupidity and laziness

kameecoding ,

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  • ICastFist ,
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    It would be reasonable if what that app did was anything that actually needed internet servers to work. Why not just pair up the phone with the car, ad-hoc like you could with a PSP, or any sort of peer-to-peer between car-phone, and call it a day? Oh, right, because then you can’t create a service you can charge monthly for.

    That people are willing to pay for effectively a remote temperature control and shutdown timer, that does not need to be an internet service to work properly, can and should be dunked on.

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  • locuester ,

    It’s for office workers or inner city dwellers in cold regions. They can start their car which is in the parking garage blocks away. It makes sense and it costs money to run.

    Theres nothing wrong at all with this. At all. Image is FUD

    jjlinux ,
    @jjlinux@lemmy.ml avatar

    Because you actually believe you didn’t already paid for about 5 years of the service when you paid for the car? Human stupidity and laziness is the accurate reason for manufacturers doing this.

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  • jjlinux ,
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    When you buy the car, you also pay for that integrated, albeit disable, service. To enable it you have to pay a subscription. I agree with the OP. This should never be the case. Now, the culprit is not the car manufacturer, but the people that pay for it. If nobody, or aven few people, paid for this, they wouldn’t have a business for that and they would likely stop. Bottom line is, you don’t like it? Give your money to another brand.

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  • Suburbanl3g3nd ,

    Until they take that away from the fobs

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  • Suburbanl3g3nd ,

    I’ll take that bet in the next ~10 years.

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  • Suburbanl3g3nd ,
    Vespair , to memes in Checkmate

    Kanye is a literal admitted Nazi.

    Stop dickriding this fucking loser or using him in memes like he’s just some dude. Stop being complicit in normalizing Nazism, Jesus fucking Christ

    andrew_bidlaw ,
    @andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works avatar

    It could be funny if not for this guy’s rapidly stagnating mental health and the publicity he still has. He’s not a joke, he’s a deeply wrong unmedicated idiot who we can observe even there. When he was intervieved with a sock on his sad head and praised Hitler for some reason, it felt so cringe-worthy, but it’s unfair to him and to the persons who he promotes hate against to share it any further.

    Vespair ,

    Mental illness isn’t carte blanche to be hateful without recourse. I live with literally the exact same condition as Kanye, but that condition never absolves me the work of being decent or having to live with the consequences of my poor decisions. My mental illness may at times explain my erratic behavior, but it absolutely never excuses said behavior. Stop using mental illness as an excuse to allow the rich and famous to do whatever they want without recourse.

    andrew_bidlaw ,
    @andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works avatar

    Fair point. I just hold the opinion he’s both an asshole and he’s used and enabled by other actors to stay this way. He sure has an agency, even if it’s a bit less than NT persons have.

    corsicanguppy ,

    Downvote for ‘literally’. New adverbs would be fetch.

    feedum_sneedson ,

    penisally

    feedum_sneedson ,

    It’s totally an excuse, a psychotic person could believe anything and that is in no way their fault. I knew a guy who believed… do you know what, it doesn’t matter. It doesn’t mean the behaviour is okay, but it absolutely excuses it.

    Scubus ,

    I recall he had a ski mask on his head, the sock was on his hand

    theneverfox ,
    @theneverfox@pawb.social avatar

    It seemed almost like a bondage mask from what I remember

    I don’t remember the sock though… Why do I find that so much weirder than just the mask?

    DragonTypeWyvern ,

    It was, and it’s something he’s done before.

    andrew_bidlaw ,
    @andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works avatar

    You are probably correct. I’m not from a ski region so I thought about him like of a caricaturic burglar.

    hughesdikus ,

    Just because the guy in memes is a jerk doesnt mean we cant laugh at memes.

    There are literal Hitler memes on the internet.

    Do you think people who put Satan in their memes want to really go to hell or something?

    Vespair ,

    Of course I understand that, but I also understand subtext and cultural currents. Regardless of whether or not using Kanye this way counts as endorsement, it still serves to normalize his relevance and help keep him, and therefore his thoughts, words, and opinions, in the cultural zeitgeist.

    So we can either accept that or choose literally any other random idiot to be our go-to meme guy instead.

    So why the fuck shouldn’t we?

    insufferableninja ,

    i laughed at the meme, and didn’t know who the dude was. so maybe it’s not as big a problem as you think? shrug

    feedum_sneedson ,

    You can if you like.

    hughesdikus ,

    You should spread awareness on why he is a jerk instead of just trying to supress his existence as a whole.

    That will help people to get the complete picture instead of just “oh dont use this picture”. That’s how information works.

    Believe it or not, there are still many people who dont know, thus don’t care about him or his thoughts. And you writing something instead of all this would have helped your cause more.

    Rhynoplaz , to mildlyinfuriating in The way this is written out really irks me.

    I’ve heard that people who drive a Dodge Ram are most likely to have a DUI on their record.

    For real. Might have changed since then though.

    burrito ,

    I read that too. I think the 2500 model had the highest rate.

    Rhynoplaz ,

    Unless another model has truck balls, which doubles the trucks overall douche-value.

    swag_money ,

    yeah i heard that from regular car reviews!

    hypnotoad__ ,
    @hypnotoad__@lemmy.ml avatar

    Dickheads drive dodge

    bionicjoey ,

    Dickheads drive Dodge pickup trucks

    terminhell ,

    Why?

    WarmSoda ,

    Pavement Princess’s

    Speex ,
    @Speex@sh.itjust.works avatar

    Because some people only live inside their tiny little bubble and can’t think outside of it. So therefore if I don’t have a need or want for a truck then no one else should.

    onkyo ,

    That only works if what you want doesn’t also affect other people. If you buy a giant pick up truck that endangers other people, for no other reason than your own ego, you’re probably an asshole.

    Speex ,
    @Speex@sh.itjust.works avatar

    Your world view is so tiny. You don’t know shit.

    You’re probably an asshole. Only because your own ego is so great and your own mind is so limited you can’t take time to think outside your own tiny little box.

    It’s sad really. Also don’t leave your house ever. Your actions endanger other people.

    tinyVoltron ,
    @tinyVoltron@lemmy.world avatar

    Have you never had to tow a trailer? Haul lumber or stone? Bring home a large appliance or furniture? Help a friend move? Or are you just assuming anyone who uses a vehicle you don’t need is an asshole?

    dustyData ,

    None of the idiots who brag about driving a semi have done any of that either. They’re grocery haulers at best. Just like 4x4 princesses. The loudest mouth breathers are the ones who think that driving on a unpaved dirt road is off-roading.

    The rest of sensible humankind knows that, for any of what you mentioned, it’s astronomically cheaper to rent an actual truck for the couple of days every other year that you actually have to do any of it than owning, and slaving over a loan, for an inefficient, expensive and inadequate machine that can’t do any of those task properly.

    Speex ,
    @Speex@sh.itjust.works avatar

    So you mean in your limited experience it’s cheaper. Which is fine. If you found solution for you good stuff. But your limited experience isn’t the reality for everyone.

    Sounds like you don’t have a good understanding of the machines you are even talking about. Try expanding your world a little. Be less about making judgements about things you don’t understand.

    dustyData ,

    Idiot says to the guy whose entire family were trades professionals for two generations who had owned, worked on and driven everything from buses and box trucks to 18 wheelers and forklifts, that he doesn’t understand machines and need to expand their world. Stay classy Internet.

    Speex ,
    @Speex@sh.itjust.works avatar

    Sure ya did.

    daltotron , (edited )

    None of the idiots who brag about driving a semi have done any of that either.

    That’s definitely not true. People can still have a self-image as a kind of asshole truck driver, and also still use their truck. People make this argument, that somehow these kind of aesthetic qualities have some sort of bearing on who does or doesn’t use their truck, and to me, it just kind of comes across like the only people who are allowed to drive trucks are the people who are acting in socially acceptable ways.

    The argument is less about the people who use their truck, and more about the relative frequencies of use for everyone generally. Most people would be better covered by a rental. And then we could also make the argument that our development patterns would encourage the use of trucks far too much anyways.

    Edit: wait, did you mean to type semi, or hemi? I kind of assumed hemi, but if you mean semi that kind of changes everything and I don’t know how to respond to that.

    dustyData ,

    I did meant hemi. English as a third language and all. And honestly I don’t care about whether they use their truck or not. It’s about the statistical probability of both being an intolerable fuckface who has an inefficient machine instead of a personality, and bragging that they need it and it is the best choice for certain heavy tasks. When the people who actually need to do those heavy task regularly would chose a pickup track last. Because it would be the worst choice possible only second to a Twingo or something. Because I’ve seen sedans deal better with towing trailers than some of the crap they sell to Americans as trucks.

    XTL ,

    Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. None of those needed or would have been better with a pickup. Have driven a pickup as well. Was pointless and crap.

    metaStatic ,

    People who make poor life choices are more likely to make other poor life choices.

    moistclump ,

    It was BMW drivers, rams were a close second to Tesla in driving incidents and highest overall combined incidents and dui.

    treadful ,
    @treadful@lemmy.zip avatar

    Saw that recently as well. Wondering if the stats are US versus the world. BMWs just don’t seem common enough in the US to hold the top spot. Unless every driver is constantly tanked at all times.

    thoughtorgan ,

    BMW’s are all over, at least where I live.

    UltraMagnus0001 ,

    Still the same, up there with BMW

    Duamerthrax ,
    Zink ,

    At least the alcoholic grindset yuppies are well represented by the BMW 4 series and Audi A4 in the top 5.

    Absolutely zero surprise of Ram trucks being #1. The only vehicle that has ever crashed into me was a Ram. All the tires were mismatched and the driver came to his deposition with alcohol on his breath. They’re a fun bunch, those Ram drivers.

    Duamerthrax ,

    I’ll rarely see Rams used as actual work trucks. At least around me, it’s all Fords and Chevy. And if it a Ram, it’s got a Cummins in it. Hemi is weekend warrior shit.

    Thranduil , to memes in Trig

    Well its day 0 now since you technically used them in this meme even if it was only the words

    flambonkscious ,

    Smartass!

    SuckMyWang ,

    So you’re saying the real reason we learn about trigonometry is so we can talk about how pointless and shit it was to learn

    hyperhopper ,

    So when I type the word “sink” I’ve used the sin() function?

    Ryan213 , to lemmyshitpost in The barbieheimer debate rages
    @Ryan213@lemmy.world avatar

    I actually enjoyed Barbie more. Both good movies though.

    Diprount_Tomato ,
    @Diprount_Tomato@lemmy.world avatar

    I didn’t. Barbie was a nice time watching a movie that didn’t even seem to take itself seriously so it allows surreal and fun moments.

    But Oppenheimer was just a masterpiece

    Ryan213 ,
    @Ryan213@lemmy.world avatar

    To each their own!

    funkless_eck ,

    I strongly disagree. Both were middling and forgettable. In a year or so most people will struggle to recall anything about either movie.

    Something_Complex ,

    cuz maybe you are not smart enough to understand Oppenheimer.

    But I guess some people are just simple.

    Here I’ll translate, bomb go bombom humanity goes die die. Unstoppable process , no stop.

    Simple?

    funkless_eck ,

    it’s not about that at all.

    my criticisms in brief:

    • creating a post-post-modern work but centering the drama around the pre-modern harmartia in a character
    • the absolute break neck speed of narrative in an incredibly long work, without intermission is very draining and not enjoyable
    • the absence of charisma from the lead character coupled with the inexplicable attraction and support of everyone around him to him
    • "who’s story was it?" there were so many conflicting POVs, and about half a dozen endings
    • the surrealism wasn’t earned or justified
    • the entire thing is about the possible human cost of such decisions but the only victim we see is imaginary
    • most of the dialog is essentially exposition of scientific or legal terms
    • although what happens - post hoc - was interesting. the actual experience of watching it unfold was just watching a bunch of people bicker about their jobs
    Something_Complex ,

    XD well I’ll make it simpler, we are all dead men walking. In a society without patience I understand what you mean.

    But 3 hours to build up to one sentence is something that I’ve never seen benfore in any other movie.

    Considering the sentence, well nah this movie was something else.

    You can expres you complaints however you want. But I never saw it as boring at any point…

    volvoxvsmarla ,

    Honestly man, have you never heard of atom bombs and nuclear power before that movie? You make it sound like this movie is enlightening humanity about the dangers of nuclear weapons and revealing some kind of secrets that haven’t been common knowledge for decades.

    Or to use your degrading language that you seem to like to make us dumb dumbs understand: small thing goes boing, that bad, we deady-dead, just as granny said.

    bighatchester ,

    I feel like me and my gf are the only people that had zero interest in Oppenheimer . Just didn’t appeal to me at all , barbie was great though !

    Ibaudia ,
    @Ibaudia@lemmy.world avatar

    I loved Oppenheimer because I love biopics. Didn’t bother with Barbie because it seemed not my style.

    partial_accumen , (edited )

    Didn’t bother with Barbie because it seemed not my style.

    What I assumed the movie would be about being a Barbie movie isn’t my style either. However, the Barbie movie was quite a bit more than I expected. I rather liked the subtle feminist messaging underneath the obvious message. The movie also didn’t take itself too seriously on what could be considered very delicate topics. I’d recommend it even for non-typical Barbie doll audience.

    naught ,

    The musical numbers are also great

    thorbot ,

    Ok I’m definitely out

    naught ,

    I support u

    SpaceNoodle ,

    There was subtle messaging beneath the extremely overt messaging?

    MargotRobbie ,
    @MargotRobbie@lemmy.world avatar

    While the feminist message was not meant to be subtle, there are plenty of subtle messages that people still haven’t figured out yet. At it’s core, Barbie is about identity and existence.

    It’s not that deep, but it is a bit more complex than at first glance.

    0ops ,

    For what it’s worth, Barbie was way weirder than I thought it was going to be. Worth a watch imo

    zurohki , to internetfuneral in 💾󠁿󠁿

    Hey look, someone 3D printed a whole bunch of save icons.

    Otherwise_Direction7 ,

    bruh

    I_Comment_On_EVERYTHING , to memes in Dont wanna scratch that rhinocover

    I have been in that exact position before. The hard cover was locked and the keys for it disappeared somewhere on the job site. We needed the piece of crown moulding to finish a job we were working on so we did exactly what you see in the photo.

    blackn1ght ,

    Should the keys not be on the fob with the key to operate the vehicle?

    I_Comment_On_EVERYTHING ,

    Aftermarket hard top that locked into the top of the tailgate. You could unlock the tailgate but wouldn’t be able to pull it down.

    If memory serves me the hardtop keys were given to someone to get a tool and never returned to the driver.

    Venat0r ,

    This is why vans are superior to trucks.

    Patches ,

    Except they can’t do the one other key function of a truck.

    Tow

    Trollception ,

    Vans can tow too. Many full sized Vans are a truck chassis and drivetrain with the body of a Van.

    1847953620 ,

    vans always have a much lower tow rating, the chassis and drivetrain are almost always different in some critical way

    BirdyBoogleBop ,

    There are vans that can tow 3500kg trailers. With a payload in the van.

    1847953620 ,

    Apples to apples, those vans are more expensive and larger. At what point does it become ok to have an open bed? There are valid pros and cons in every choice being talked about, here.

    Eufalconimorph ,

    At what point does it become ok to have an open bed?

    When the distance from the back of the truck to the front of the bed is longer than the distance from the back of the cab to the front of the truck, it turns from a Sport Utility Truck into a Pickup Truck. Typically that’s around when the bed gets big enough to haul a sheet of plywood or drywall safely.

    Of course it’s OK to have an SUT instead of a pickup truck, just not as useful for construction work.

    1847953620 ,

    So edgy.

    What if you rest the wood on the tailgate, or lean it on the roof, then tie it down, is it no longer safe?

    What if you’re the driver for a small crew that picks them up every morning then uses the smaller bed for supply runs?

    Just lemmy grasping at straws to put everyone into a box based on incomplete information.

    Eufalconimorph ,

    I said nothing about safety. I just said it should be considered a different class of vehicle if it meets certain characteristics. SUTs are great for camping, for hauling surf boards & kayaks (possibly with a rack) and tow just as well as pickups. They don’t have a full-size bed, so they’re worse at most jobs, though the larger cab does mean they can carry more workers at once. It’s a trade-off: get worse at most work-related tasks, get better at personal tasks and thus reach a wider market.

    1847953620 ,

    Typically that’s around when the bed gets big enough to haul a sheet of plywood or drywall safely.

    I said nothing about safety.

    The tests have determined that was a lie

    Nice to see you’ve realized it’s a compromise and not some slam-dunk about the character of whoever’s driving it based on no additional information.

    That being said, truck bros can be as insufferable as anyone else with an ego, they’re just easy to pick on

    1847953620 ,

    because they eliminate the margin case of losing your aftermarket hardtop keys?

    rooster_butt ,

    Unless you are carrying chemicals constantly and don’t want to be smelling the fumes all day.

    Agent641 ,

    My renault came with a solid steel cargo barrier and small glass window. You could carry a lion in the back and probably be fine.

    1847953620 ,

    You would trust your lungs to vehicle manufacturers getting every van air-tight with seals to last for many years?

    ilost7489 ,

    Both have their use cases. I wouldn’t say one is better than the other

    Mr_Blott ,

    Millions upon millions of contractors in every country except the US would disagree

    ilost7489 ,

    Of course they would because they don’t need one for what they do. But I also imagine another few million around the world do. What you choose depends on what you need

    Anticorp ,

    They mean that the key should be on the same keychain as the ignition key.

    MuuuaadDib , to aboringdystopia in Jeff Bezo is now cosplaying as a working class man.

    I don’t know what else to say but I am exhausted with stupid rich people being in my life. I think the French were on to something…

    MrSlicer ,

    Let us eat cake!

    RememberTheApollo_ ,

    Fuck the media for glorifying them.

    phorq , to internetfuneral in !Mark!

    I’d watch a horror movie about a Silicon Valley startup CEO slowly having his body parts replaced by his investors in the interest of making him more predictable and under their control until they finally get to his brain… Chip of Theseus coming Fall 2024 to Meta TV!

    DharmaCurious ,
    @DharmaCurious@startrek.website avatar

    I’d watch the hell out of that, and it’s I unironically an excellent name.

    sharkfucker420 ,
    @sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml avatar

    Chip of Theseus goes hard af

    intro ,

    “Chip of Theseus” is an awesome name!

    vankappa ,

    sounds like a possible black mirror episode

    shea ,

    That didn’t capture my interest until that BANGER of a name. That’s gold right there

    Waffles ,

    Not a CEO but a pop star… But I was immediately reminded of the Black Mirror episode, “Rachel, Jack,and Ashley Too.”

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