I get that if you're a respectable newspaper you can't just put a footnote: (*) because it was money laundering
But it's weird that say the whole thing with a straight face while standing so specifically placed so they're blocking the writing on the wall that says "MONEY LAUNDERING"
I thought about investing the effort to construct a Drake meme, captioned with "overpaying for real estate" "campaign contributions" "consulting fee" "fuck it here's a briefcase full of cash" with all of them set to the "accepting" Drake. But I lost my motivation before I accomplished it.
That’s weird. And here I thought that stating the facts without a narrative was good reporting.
I cane to the conclusion of “oh, so probably a bribe, then” from the facts. Until someone actually accuses them of crimes, it’s best for the news to just highlight suspicious circumstances.
I don’t know what’s funnier; Alex Jones’s estate being liquidated to pay back the families of his victims, or Mike Lindell being forced to pay the $5 million “prize” he offered to disprove his election fraud lies, and then was sued because he refused to pay it after he was easily disproven.
My entire point is that he is able to say what he wants to say without being thrown into one of those camps.
Thus it is not exactly the same.
You seem to have a strange idea in your head that it is impossible to criticize America (he said the West as a whole, by the way) without comparing it to one of history’s worst dictatorships.
Believe it or not, it’s not a contest. You can criticize both and still admit one was worse.
Either that, or you know nothing about 20th century Chinese history.
Yet again- it is not a contest. No one is denying that there is censorship in the West.
Censorship is not all that Mao’s China did. They threw people in camps or executed them for criticizing Mao’s government.
Do you not know what the words “exacactly” and “same” mean? Is that the problem?
That said, this is just a lie: “And anyone who doesn’t support literal Genocide gets censored.” The proof it’s a lie is your article, published by the largest private news organization on the planet, based in the West, not censoring him.
But I do enjoy you claiming someone getting their message across on mass media is being censored.
Which is also untrue because in the West we also execute people and lie about it. When someone blows the whistle they get thrown in jail. See Edward Snowden and Julian Assange. You act like people are free to speak about our war crimes while Biden is actively trying to throw people in prison for exposing them.
You must support actual Nazi style Genocide or you get deplatformed, demonitized and removed from government positions.
The irony is in how our government and media kept praising Ai for speaking out against censorship in China but then turned on him when he criticized subjects that we like to keep censored here.
Sky News is a UK outlet so it’s not American mainstream media covering this.
The punishments might be slightly different, but that is just so people like you keep screaming about “free speech”.
Please provide evidence that China censors Ai Weiwei from speaking out against the Genocide of Palestinians. Or do you deny that China is censoring free speech?
I see, you don’t even know who your own article is about or what they were quoted as saying.
You didn’t even read your own headline.
You don’t know who Ai Weiwei is, you think ‘the West’ means America, you don’t know who Mao was, you don’t understand censorship and you don’t understand what “exactly the same” means, so I wonder why you even bothered posting this.
Edward Snowden published top-secret material about (illegal) surveillance being done by the NSA. Regardless of whether or not what the NSA was doing, the activities were highly classified. That is not the same things as reporting; you’ll note that the reporters and newspapers that published what Snowden leaked (The Guardian, The New York Times, The Washington Post, others) didn’t face any reprisals from the US gov’t, just Snowden; that’s likely because the US gov’t already lost that fight in NYT v. US in 1971.
Claiming that the organization was breaking the laws, and so he was legally protected in leaking information–that would be roughly a whistleblower defense–is an affirmative defense. It’s similar to saying that I was legally justified in shooting someone because they were assaulting me. But affirmative defenses require you to show up in court, not defect to a hostile country that is doing far, far worse than the US has done in the last century or so.
If he truly believed that what he was doing was legally defensible, then he would have stayed and lawyered up.
Probably. His autopsy was consistent with suicide, and cameras not working in jails, and DoC cops not doing their jobs is pretty much par for the course everywhere. A multi-millionaire, life-long child sex abuser, committing suicide rather than rotting in prison and getting the shit kicked out of them monthly? Yeah, it tracks. It’s plausible, it’s consistent with the forensic evidence we have available, and in the absence of anything other than, “well, that seems awfully convenient for Clinton, Trump, and Prince Andrew!”, that’s the best answer there is.
Naa, we who live in the west criticize it all the time, what we don’t do is act like the CCP can do no wrong and bring up whataboutism to defend it, which is exactly what you’re doing here.
Cause tankies who are sympathetic to the CCP and russia, which is the mass majority of lemmy.grad and now lemmy.ml, need to be told to fuck off. BTW, lemmy.ml is real close to being defederated just like lemmy.grad was, because of the CCP propaganda that’s spewed.
Just a guess, lemmy.grad and hexbear were kicked because of the amount of crazy tankie shit from them. So a lot of those users jumped to lemmy.ml
Not to far a reach to catch on.
Also being an admin of an instance or part of some instances mod team doesn’t mean you can dictate that all instances will defederate anything. You do understand how a decentralized platform works right?
I see… so the West “has to look more democratic” than Mao’s China by… not censoring people or putting them in prison for criticizing Western governments?
Then it’s not “exactly the same as Mao’s China,” now is it?
To be fair to a large extend it is with regard to international affairs. We have many agreements with USA, that are very much dominated by USA.
Norway is in NATO, which is clearly a US dominated organisation, because they constitute more than half the defense capability of NATO.
In much the same way, USA is dominating in the west, because it’s the biggest economy and has the biggest military to enforce their policies, which is largely accepted by allies.
Trump is trying to destroy this entirely, to benefit Putin and China, I think we need to accept our international cooperation with USA, and hope it lasts a while longer.
Yeah, but they’re talking about things like anti-BDS laws and the way the U.S. treats prisoners. I’m pretty sure Denmark doesn’t have anti-BDS laws and I know Denmark treats its prisoners much better than either the U.S. or China.
Basically, all of their criticisms are U.S.-centric.
Yes obviously, since Denmark is one of the top democracies in the world, with the highest level of free speech, it’s just as bad as a totalitarian regime. 😜 🤪 What an idiot. 🤡
Obviously OP has plenty of nasty views (eg. thinks '''Zionists''' control all western media), but is also incredibly ill informed (like thinking Sudan used to be a French colony) and almost certainly functionally illiterate(posts links to articles which say the exact opposite of what OP thinks they do). Also almost certainly upvotes their own comments with alts.
The reason I think this, is because in the past, OP has mistakenly quoted something someone else has said as a reply to my comment, then failed entirely to grasp that they're replying to a different comment even when I've said as much. These nonsensical comments still got upvotes, which makes no sense even if people are very partisan.
The only reason I don't think they're a useful idiot, is because they're so ill informed and obnoxious, that if anything they're actually hurting the people they thinks they're supporting. Then again, maybe I'm harsh and they're just some dumb kid.
I really should block them, because honestly arguing with them feels a bit unfair, even if it is funny. Also the whole arguing with pigeons and getting shit in your hair thing.
West has to look more democratic than China to keep the show mean “democracy” going so of course we allow more than China, but news is still being censored and journalists are being silenced in the West as well
propaganda machines got you thinking otherwise
has to be two teams each on “opposing sides” to get the citizens rallied in the right camp and thinking
news is still being censored and journalists are being silenced
As I told OP, this is not a contest. You can criticize the West without saying it is exactly the same as Mao’s China. It is not. Because if it was, you would never have heard Ai WeiWei say so. They would have been put in a “re-education” camp long ago. And even if they somehow were able to get that message out, not a single news outlet would report on it.
In this case, News Corp is reporting on it. In other words, an outlet owned by Rupert Murdoch is making the claim that you can’t get away with having the freedom to say what you want in the West.
If that were true, Rupert Murdoch wouldn’t still be going strong at 92 with a vast media empire that is able to get away with lying constantly in order to be critical of the governments of the countries his news outlets are in, he would be dead.
I have no idea what that means, but I assume, since you posted the article, that you agree with the person whose message got out in the Western media and who was not thrown into a “re-education camp” that censorship is just the same as what Mao did. Because his tweet got deleted. Correct?
“Man who fled country after commiting crimes to expose other crimes is a good example about how you can’t criticize governments” is a blistering hot take, and one I’m not surprised the OP is making, considering how ignorant they are in other replies.
Yes the independent artists and journalist Snowden, who couldn’t display his art exhibition because of government censorship. That’s a perfectly reasonable comparison. /s
Oh wait… He wasn’t an artist or journalist or even independent, he was a government contractor, who had signed not to reveal what he was working with.
Yes it sucks that whistleblowers that reveal things that are relevant, often become victims. But we are at least free to discuss what he revealed, and air our opinion and even protest and vote against politicians and policies that defend the system when it’s doing wrong.
So far, OP has claimed that censorship in the west, as a whole, is exactly the same as Mao’s China because of Richard Snowden, U.S. jails, anti-BDS policies and “deplatforming.”
Weirdly, OP has not been put in a re-education camp for saying such things.
Well first wonderful moving the goal posts, as the reason I bring up the PRC constitution is because “Article 35 Citizens of the People’s Republic of China shall enjoy freedom of speech, the press, assembly, association, procession and demonstration.” so they have the same right to speech that you do in the United States with the same garentee, If you want to tell me its only as good as the paper its written on, I will ask the same thing about the US.
Second, what did Mao do, kick the Facists off the mainland? Kill landlords (who had it comeing, even ask the founder of capitalism), create a nation that would be the largest force for lifting people out of poverty? Please elaberate your crimes that the goal post has now moved to … given it is not just freedom of speech any more
I am saying that the West is significantly worse, that being said, I am also not going to say the PRC is perfect… just sigificantly better than the west. I was only bringing up the fact that when you mentioned “In the west you can critisize your own government” the same right applies in the PRC… Heck the PRC has more political parties than here in the US.
They did update it after Mao died, yes but the freedom of speech was listed in the origial.
I do think that the PRC is better than the west, and it does infact have more political parties. however my responce was to your claim that their you can critisize the government in the west but not in China, a patently false claim.
I do not know what you are talking about mudying the waters I assure you it is not intenrional, however it was not me who has moved the goal posts … geez 4 times now?
Also, it is a lie that I moved the goalposts. I have not once strayed from saying that the claim that ‘censorship in the West is exactly the same as Mao’s China’ is false.
No your starting postion is that you cannot critisize the government in the PRC… I have pointed out they have the same rights in the PRC as in the west documented in the same way.
ARTICLE 45 Citizens enjoy freedom of speech, correspond- ence, the press, assembly, association, procession, demonstration and the freedom to strike, and have the right to “speak out freely, air their views fully, hold great debates and write big-character posters.”
Also just to rub a little salt into your wounds ARTICLE 52 Citizens have the freedom to engage in scientific research, literary and artistic creation and other cultural activities. The state encourages and as- sists the creative endeavours of citizens engaged in science, education, literature, art, journalism, publishing, public health, sports and other cultural work.
Let me look ever so quickly at your Wikipedia link really quick, and may I note that wikipedia is known for being increadably inacurate and reactionary at all times. After just a little bit of digging I found his arrest was not due to the play in question, but general subsersive activities, that where found to be a threat to the state. Fun fact if you do this in the United States you will also find yourself in prison. I would also like to point out, why is Sweedish Citizen Julian Assange Rotting in Prison at the request of the United States government for the crime of Journalism
3rd you have moved the goal posts, from You cannot critisize the government in china, to what does the constitution have to do with anything, to I was never talking about that you are muddying the waters, to what about this person who tried to tear down a newly formed just after its civil war government jailed. This is moving the goal posts.
Please tell me the “subversive activities” that Wu Han was involved in. Did he commit any violent acts? Who did he kill or physically harm? Or was he a spy? Did he sell secrets to the U.S.? What?
Because I’m pretty sure the “subversive activities” were criticizing the government.
Feel free to enlighten me. But be sure to provide evidence. So far, you’ve told me about articles in a constitution ratified in 1982, after Mao died and this is specifically about Mao’s China.
I brought up articles from the Pre 1982 constitution, or are you conveniently ignoring that I provided the evidence you requested, interesting that when I provide requested evidence you ignore it.
Second you have now ignored my request for information about asange. Strange, who id assagne kill or phisicaly harm, did he sell secrets? last I checked he merly did a journalism… or are we going to also ignore this and make it so only I do the responding here. It is a wonderful retorical trick to make it seem like I am always on the back foot, so to an outside observer it apears as though your winning, dispite the fact you have contributed nothing to the conversation, well besides throwing new accusiation, not responding to my counters and moving the goal posts.
Third you have to understand the material conditions of China at the time, those being coming right out of s civil war* with a US and other capitalist funded side the ROC who flead but where not fully defeated going over to tiwan. For a state in this postion to sucseed, Especialy in the earlie years they have to be hyper vigilent, if not the US usualy will be the one to come in and cut them where they stand, just look at Most of latin america, the exception proving the rule is cuba with their over 600 attempts. or the attempts the US made to destroy the USSR. If you read the works of Wu Han, during this period, he was a class colaberationist (read facists) his play, that agian was not the reason he was arrested but was likely used as point to prove the class colaberation. If you do not think the US does not do similar you are fooling yourself, the seddition act is still on the books in the United States so “Seddicious Speach” will land you in jail too.
Haha. “You have to consider how China was at the time, therefore imprisoning people for criticizing the government was okay.”
Got it.
Assange is not relevant to the claim, because Ai Wewei was talking about himself. Also, Assange is not in a “re-education” camp where he will be worked to death. Has he been treated well? No. Was he treated like Wu Han? No.
The fact that you are able to say all of this and have not been imprisoned might show that you’ve been taken in by Rupert Murdoch’s tabloid journalism, much like OP who posted it in the first place.
You know, Rupert Murdoch. The notorious Marxist.
I also like how you are simultaneously claiming that the statement that “censorship in the West is exactly the same as Mao’s China” while insisting that there was freedom of speech in Mao’s China and Mao’s China was not a totalitarian oppressive regime.
Ether the claim “censorship in the West is exactly the same as Mao’s China” is false or, by your own claims, there is just as little censorship in the West as there was during Mao’s China, which, according to you, did not censor people. Either way, I’m not sure why you’re complaining about it.
no it was not for critisizing the government it was for being a class colaberationist, there is a massive MASSIVE diffrence. you know… they where just fighting Facism … he was a facists… or atleast acting for a long period of time like a facist…
Second he is being treated worse, Assange’s treatment is classified as torture, the PRC by all reputable sources I have found in the time we have been talking did not resort to torcher
I can go to China and Critisize China too… Agian it is not a right exclusive to the west, the point I was making BACK AT YOUR ORIGIONAL POINT, before you moved the goal posts multiple times.
Murdoch is a stanch Capitalist, arguably a facists, we are not the same
I am not claiming those 2 statements, I am saying 1) Mao’s PRC was not totalitarian, it was a free society that we can expect given they just emerged from a civil war. 2) the PRC is while not perfect and free of all censor ship significantly better than atleast the United States if not the west, 3) There is significant censorship in the west"
I never made the claim that the west and maos china are the same this is a claim you have ascribed to me and that I have not made, my origional clame, and the one I am still making is that The PRC has freedom of speech and that said right is not exclusive to the west, and is arguable better upheld by the PRC.
Last I have still heard nothing about your false claim that I did not provide the Mao Era constitution text when I in my reply 2 ago did do so, and you blatantly ignored it, because it was inconvenent to your argument.
Again- either Censorship in the west is the same as Mao’s China- the claim in the headline and the article, in which case, according to you, there is no censorship -or- that claim is false. I’m starting to think you didn’t even read the headline, let alone the article.
It’s very simple. It’s also the only thing I have been discussing this entire time.
Also, I have no idea what text you provided because you didn’t link to it. I have no reason to just trust you presented it accurately. You could have just as easily made it up.
I think you are under the false notion that my issue with your comment was that you where saying that the headline was false, That was not my issue, I too take issue with the headline but in the inverse way and we have not at all been discussing that, for any reason and I am sorry you got that impression.
That being said that is not what we have been discussing this entire time, as I have stated MULTIPLE TIMES, my argument is that freedom of speech is not exlusive to the west as you heavily implied in your first comment, and that is what I have been taking issue with.
And I can one tell you it is from the Mao Era Constitution, and I could have made it up, but I have integrrety, unlike you when you just without warrent or evidence said Feedom of speech is an exclusivly western thing. or in such that I only provided you the post 1982 constituiton immedatly after I provided, and cited the Mao era constitution.
That may not have been what you were discussing, but it is the only topic I have been discussing this entire time, which is why I have brought it up over and over again.
And, again, I have no idea if you cited that constitution because you didn’t link to it. Again, you might have made it up. I’m sure you want me to “just trust me, bro,” but I don’t.
You are free to look it up for yourself, I do not expect yoy tp trust me on absolutely anything, but I am not going to be uploading an entire PDF into a comment
Also if we want to refraim, I will happy argue the PRC is better than The USA, if that is what you would rather be arguing?
All you have to do is post a link. Just copy and paste a URL. That you refuse to do so certainly makes me think you were being dishonest.
And no, yet again, my argument is that the claim that “censorship in the West is exactly the same as Mao’s China” is false. That is all my argument has ever been from the start, which is why I have brought it up in almost every response to you. If only you would read it. Or the article. Or the article’s headline.
I really don’t care about your opinions about China.
It is a pdf saved to my computer, how the heck do you want me to “coppy a url”
I read the article headline, I too say its false, but I also disagree with you, funny how that can work, we can agree in a boolian statement but disagree with each other, my argument to you is that your starting comment was incorrect and accademicly dishonest
You know how often I have this exact argument in a year IRL, I am a communist, I hear “You wouldn’t be allowed to critise the government in a communist country” all the time so I have a habit of once I have to use a constitution of an AES county, or a specific edition I save it
Sure you do. Because downloading a PDF of it that you can’t actually show is far better for these discussions than linking to one you can show. “Trust me, bro.”
I’m not here to engage in an argument, only to point out that this:
so they have the same right to speech that you do in the United States with the same garentee, If you want to tell me its only as good as the paper its written on, I will ask the same thing about the US.
Is fucking idiotic. You’re trying to argue that if one country has a constitution that it ignores but uses as a front for people like you to point at and say ‘china’s great and has free speech’ it invalidates every other country’s (or maybe you’re just arguing against the US constitutional right to free speech?) constitution because it’s also written in paper. Absolutely idiotic.
I am allowing 2 arguments one where we assume both are followed and one where we assume nither are followed, you may pick your path, I have found usualy americans defult to the US constitution being mostly followed but any forgin “evil” country not even looking at theirs
Ok? I usualy get the “pleasure” of arguing with americans … usualy in real life" so are we going with constitutions are words on paper or infaliable documents?
The US constitution is more-or-less followed; courts largely try to interpret intent and meaning–or originalism, depending on the judge in question, and it’s mostly followed, eventually. On the other hand, despite what the Chinese constitution says about the right to free speech, assembly, etc., it’s quite clear that there is official state censorship regarding certain subjects, and peaceful assembly in support of, say, democracy will result in people being run down by tanks. In the US, you can accuse a sitting president of sexual assault, and actually file a civil suit against the president, and end up winning a few hundred million for defamation. On the other hand, if you are an international tennis star in China, and you accuse a party official of sexual assault, you will likely disappear for several months before emerging for very limited public appearances to apologize before “retiring” from tennis. If you aren’t famous, odds are pretty good that you just don’t reappear.
You can argue that peaceful demonstrations in the US are also subjected to police repression–see also BLM–and I’d agree. On the other hand, I would say the number of people killed by state actors in the US at demonstrations usually numbers between zero and the low single digits, while the death toll at Tianmen square alone is believed to have been tens of thousands. The Kent State massacre was likely the largest number of peaceful protesters killed by police in the last 75 years or so in the US.
The only way Republicans would consider gun control is if the mass shooting was done by Taylor Swift and Joe Biden whilst holding hands and wearing pride flag t-shirts…
I’m convinced that if Dems came out and said, “we think ownership of the AR15 and any replica thereof is a human right!” then Republicans in their classic Anti-Dem platform would pivot to advocacy for a nation-wide ban.
They should start using reverse psychology on them. “Ukraine needs to be destroyed by Russia! Health care should remain private! Universal basic income is a terrible idea!”
A gun store near me, here in southern California, has a picture of Reagan on the wall. Standing under that picture I listened to an employee explain to a man in a wheel chair that the recoil from a Desert Eagle would push him backwards across the room.
That’s why we need to focus on the why it happens, not what tool is used.
We need safety nets for people, single payer healthcare, ending the war on drugs and rebuilding our mental health support system. Ending for profit prisons and creating ubi so people don’t turn to crime when they see no other ways to survive. Rebuilding our education system as well, pay teachers more build more schools and hire more teachers, so we don’t have 40 kids to a single class room. There is so much we can do that wouldn’t need to even have new laws on the books that would curb all violence 1000xs what another awb would accomplish.
We don’t need gun control. We need to remove the government regulation that prevents civil law suits against gun manufacturers. No reason they should get that special privilege.
I hate McDonald’s. I eat McDonald’s. If I get into some tiny town or get off work in a tiny town at 11pm or later it’s often the only place open.
What I don’t understand is people who eat there by choice. I sometimes work with a guy who will go to McDonald’s by choice, even with better/cheaper options, three times a day.
I wonder how much of McDonald’s average franchise net income is from road warriors.
You can get $1 breakfast sandwiches and $2 mcchicken with free fries in the app. I definitely use it when I want the cheapest lunch or breakfast option
A ton of people work poor jobs or unfortunate hours and have their health suffer for it. No need to rub it in, he clearly doesn’t think it will be healthy.
told BBC News on Friday that the device was “just basically a gas tank for rocket fuel”. He called the event “not serious at all”. “In fact, our bomb squad member asked me why we were releasing a news release on a rusted piece of metal,” he said.
Recent December data shows unemployment rate at 3.7% with 199,000 added jobs:
Nonfarm payrolls rose by a seasonally adjusted 199,000 for the month, slightly better than the 190,000 Dow Jones estimate and ahead of the unrevised October gain of 150,000, the Labor Department reported Friday. The numbers were boosted by sizeable gains in government hiring as well as workers returning from strikes in the auto and entertainment industries.
The unemployment rate declined to 3.7%, compared with the forecast for 3.9%, as the labor force participation rate edged higher to 62.8%. A more encompassing unemployment rate that includes discouraged workers and those holding part-time positions for economic reasons fell to 7%, a decline of 0.2 percentage point.
Thanks for the link. If I’m reading it correctly, the total number of tech layoffs for the whole 2023 was 191,000, which is less than the 199,000 new jobs added in just the single month of December 2023?
In 2023: More than 191,000 workers in U.S.-based tech companies (or tech companies with a large U.S. workforce) were laid off in mass job cuts.
As someone that works in tech, it should be noted that many of those laid off were probably able to find work elsewhere. It’s a shitty market for tech right now, but there are jobs out there.
The industry that is really struggling is recruitment. Many people that I spoke to that were laid off from Amazon are still struggling to find work a year after losing their jobs. If you build a career around hiring in tech, and the industry goes into layoff-mode for 16 months, there’s not much demand for your skills.
Give it up OP. No economy news is good enough for this crowd. It’s, uh, Biden, or billionaires, or Wall Street, or someone, trying to fool us.
Inflation is well under control, yet the guy above you is bitching about skyrocketing prices. No, prices did not come back down, not yet anyway. Why would they?! Have they ever?! Saw something the other day that indicated prices might fall just a bit? In any case, deflation is generally a bad thing. And I mean bad for the general economy we all participate in, not just megacorp profits.
See, lemmy interprets any positive financial news as, “All is well!” Gets mad.
Fuck no all is not well, and anyone paying attention sees this. My #1 concern is rental prices. The buyers’ market may sort itself out eventually, usually does, but renters are taking a fucking of historic proportions. Home ownership has always been a path to savings, building wealth and retirement. Yet young people are calling bullshit, wanting to throw that out because they can’t get theirs. I get the anger, but call your reps, fight the good fight. This one is a big, big deal.
I’m down for some legislation limiting corporations from owning $X properties, but the devil is in the details. And oh gods are there details. Plus, we gotta fight uphill against the rich and their lobbyists.
You’re trying to bring positive news to young people with shit jobs who have watched every chance of a future yanked out from under them. I get the cynicism, I really do. But FFS, look at the poster below me decrying tech layoffs. He doesn’t understand that employment space, he’s getting angry reading headlines, has no experience or context.
Those of us in the tech sector are used to it. We have the skills to run right out and get another good paying job. And we always get paid more. That sucks, but it’s also reality. And “thousands” ain’t much in a country of 333,000,000.
Anyway, I’ve splatted enough BS. Going to work on fixing my house up a bit.
what kind of weird inflation rant it this. admitting that the price spikes are still around but inflation is under control, and that it's actually a good thing that all the prices went up while my wages stayed the same, prices going down is a bad thing. No explanation, just because. Is it because the rich get less money to trickle down to us?
You shouldn’t be getting downvoted. It’s true. Tech companies went on a huge hiring spree during Covid. The layoffs don’t even bring employment anywhere close to before that hiring spree.
As long as the rich people are making more money, the economy is great. The poors don’t matter when it comes to the economy. We suffer when it’s doing well, we suffer worse when it’s doing poorly.
"I'm surprised the thing me and my ilk have been actively working against hasn't magically happened despite our massive efforts to the opposite effect."
Bet you Bill thinks these kinds of publicity stunts will exclude him from being eaten, when we go to eat the rich.
Bill Gates is widely known for massive hypocrisy. And funneling his “Charity” money into vaccine companies he owns himself. And buying up an insane amount of farm land during Covid.
If Bill Gates says something you can bet that he’s doing the exact opposite. There’s a reason that this “charity man” somehow keeps getting richer.
Aaah, sealioning then. That’s like asking for specifics about this sun rising in the east thing. If you haven’t been observant enough at this point to have noticed. Then someone taking good time out of their lives to gather, organize and set. The evidence in your lap isn’t going to change things.
The whole system from the start was designed by, and to favor the wealthy. And it’s never really changed.
Dude, I just need something I can actually search for or, even better, a link. I've scoured the Wikipedia pages about Gates and they have no mention. I've searched the search results and as expected, there was nothing. I've just asked politely once, or maybe twice, and get nothing I want in response but an accusation of sealioning? If it's the "polite" part that sets you off: fuck shit mom damn darn.
It’s got nothing to do with politeness. And everything to do with perceived disingenuousness. If you’re asking someone to point you to evidence of a wealthy person who maintains fleets of lawyers and assistants. To do things for them. Doing something personally, especially something incriminating. Can you admit to seeing how that might be seen as disingenuous and not wanting to actually find the truth? Nothing is almost ever as simple as that.
Sure, but you've also got to admit that I can also see you as lazy and being very irritable at the second reply. https://kbin.social/m/[email protected]/t/780024/-/comment/4723316 is all I know right now, and it would only be all the more incriminating if he actually took a lobbying stance on this.
Logically you couldn’t. Because that would be seen by most as projection on your part.
Regardless Gates and Buffet could do a lot more than almost anyone else to make this happen if they really cared. But they don’t. Warren Buffett is a cold cruel man. He didn’t get rich at Berkshire Hathaway by being Mr. Nice Guy. I think he likes pointing out The glaring double standards and contradictions. Watching people all huddle around him telling him what a great guy he is after he’s bankrupted so many people, etc. All while he has to do nothing other than meaningless platitudes. And Bill Gates. He’s so much worse. The head of and owner of the only company to successfully be charged with antitrust offenses in the last century. Who swindled and stole in some way large chunks of nearly every major product they ever had. It’s Rich to see him even mention this BS.
Collectively I could set my watch for the last 20 plus years for every time these guys have spoken out like this and then done nothing. Empty words from empty men.
Is he funding lobbyists to affect this kind of change? No.
Is he employing top tier accountants to make sure he doesn't pay his fair share like the poors? Betcha.
Does he funnel his wealth into charitable foundations that are a tax write off leading to him getting money rather than having to pay it, while it stays in an eco system he has full control over? Betcha.
Is he buying expensive art, property, etc. to incur expenses that are tax write offs? Betcha.
Since I'm not a Billionaire, I won't be able to tell you all the ways that cunt is 100% pushing for a status quo while putting out fluff pieces like these that make him look good while doing literally nothing to affect the change he supposedly wants.
Wouldn't even be surprised if this was something to get out ahead of some revelations about tax evasion, so if you ever search up Bill Gates taxes, all you get is this curated nonsense of what a stand up good lad he is, trying oh so hard to pay his fair share. Why won't anyone take his money? Poor Bill. Must be hard not getting taxed and being utterly powerless to do anything about that. Shucks. Now he has to go another decade without ever coming close to paying his fair share.
Oh, also garbage takes like these, where he publicly opposed new tax plans - but it's fine, it was all cute and the audience laughed and he payed soooo much, sooo many taxes. https://youtu.be/dXxP4S_WwS0
I’ve come to the right place if bill gates isn’t cheered on by leftwingers… Dude has such a sketchy past especially regarding intellectual property and market manipulation.
He probably is through some back-ass-channel. These kinds of assholes always play all colors, all cards and have backup plans. He still wants to cling to his little riches even if the political winds change again. Gotta be able to show receipts when that happens.
I'll never support a single Billionaire ever for any reason whatsoever. They're leeches and parasites to society, our species and planet.
Denver police officers and CSP troopers set up a perimeter around the building, and the man fired at police, Denver7 reported. Police did not fire back.
Well now we know he was probably white and Republican. They love to light up minorities, but they’ll take their buddies they agree with to Burger King on the way to the jail and high-five them before the mugshot.
Cops are conservative authoritarians, and so they vibe with these fucking freaks.
They literally fired into a crowd of people when a black guy pulled out a gun in front of some bars downtown awhile back. Several innocent bystanders were shot by police.
This guy held up a member of the Colorado State Patrol at gunpoint, stole his keys, then broke into a building and shot at the police. I’m amazed he’s still alive!
I looked up this county and 45% voted trump. In non presidential elections, turnout is likely lower. There’s a chance this bullshit actually helps the sheriff’s re election
That suggest the opposite to me- that if the populace found out that the cops got high, ordered a ton of pizza, then left all the pizza boxes and drove off while high and they’re conservative, they’re not going to like the Sheriff very much. But they’re also police bootlickers, so who knows?
When it comes to law enforcement, moderates tend to skew conservative too. That’s why conservatives jumped on the whole “defund” stuff to terrify moderates.
Sheriffs in Los Angeles and surrounding areas (which includes Riverside) are known to be literal gangs. They get tattoos when they have an on-duty shooting and celebrate when they kill someone on-duty. When people think of bad police, LAPD is usually up there on top with NYPD; but the sheriffs in the LA area are far far worse than LAPD.
I can’t. How many police officers possibly participated in the raid, and how many pizza pies an average policeman can eat? Let’s say 2 at max, that suggests 35 policemen. WTF?
Are pizzas small there? I couldn’t imagine eating even half a pizza solo. Let alone more than one full one. Pizza is a party food for that reason isn’t it?
Or I guess am I missing the joke, is it that police are generally larger people and eat more?
I made a worst case estimation of small pizzas and large hungry policemen. These numbers suggest that there should be AT LEAST 35 policemen. If we go with half pizza per person, we get 140 policemen. It is WTF^2
According to an archived version of his campaign website, Cassidy pushed for a 10-year prison sentence for anyone who destroys a statue in his own state.
I’m sure he expects exactly the same punishment for himself.
Not quite lol Leopards Ate My Face is more Turkeys Voting for Christmas, where someone aligns with someone else in spite of the person they’re aligning with clearly not having their interests at heart. Like the vast majority of Trump supporters, or LGBTQ hexbear users supporting Putin.
This is just plain hypocrisy, like “the only moral abortion is my abortion”.
Cursory search shows it’s exclusively a UK idiom, to be accurate. So, “other part” singular being a small island where turkeys are not, nor have ever been, indigenous. That tracks.
As someone who’s never eaten a goose in his life (though I would happily try it, those rude honking bastards), I’ve had turkey on Christmas Eve at relatives. Though it’s often ham.
Hell, even if you are wealthy, it’s not in your interest. Long term, they are just going to create an environment that is going to be hostile to them just existing. Both the actual environment and society.
This is what baffles me about today. Strip our rights, steal our labor, and slap all that wealth within your fortress. Nothing is left to make society work after, so whats the goal? I won’t go to work if working gets me nothing. The snake has found its tail.
Even yallqueda has a tipping point when they realize they are on the menu. Unless you gradually lower the quality of life and human rights over many generations to normalize it, suddenly locking up the people of today would cause such a shock I’m sure chaos would ensue.
Isn’t that what’s going on right now? For a certain definition of “gradual”. From the Boomers, through Gen X, the Millennials and the Zoomers, slowly stripping away rights, liberties and privileges until everyone’s a renter living from penny to penny and absurd wealth like Elon is normalized alongside militarized police, daily school shootings, homelessness and unaffordable healthcare/college. Arrest 10-year-olds and put them in solitary, train them through the prison system to work for absolutely free (see: constitutionally legal slavery). Use “war on crime” and “war on drugs” as an excuse to do mass arrests and put people to work as actual, literal slaves in for-profit prison camps as “punishment” for the most petty and double-standard “crimes”. Normalize 24/7 surveillance, so your masters know where you are and what you’re doing at all times. Normalize random killings of “suspects”. Normalize rigged “elections”. Before you know it, suddenly locking up the people of today is not so shocking anymore.
It is, but look at the timeline. Boomers are still around. Gen X is still around. The scale at which this operation would need to execute is so massive that the elites who planted it wouldn’t stand under its shade. Therein lies the problem, the socipaths in charge want everything for themselves. They don’t care if their descendants rule the ashes, they want to. This insatiable need, coupled with their narcissistic brain patterns from a life of self-service, and where we are makes sense. We never left the jungle, we just plastered it in concrete.
4 million deaths can be directly attributed to this asshole. Many, many, many more indirectly. He was the last member of the Nixon cabinet still alive.
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