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Count042 ,

Forever wars only work against enemies that can’t really do anything back.

Israel is about to enter the ‘find out’ stage.

Count042 ,

The situation is not static at all.

Hezbollah has significantly improved upon their capabilities during that time period. Also, as a corollary to this, weapons technology in general has significantly advanced in a form that brings various capabilities to state actors that didn’t use to have the tech or financial base to support them.

Guidance systems, avionics, electronics, and drones are changing the face of warfare in a way that removes a lot of the tech advantages rich nations had over poorer nations. But, the richer nations (And this isn’t just about Israel, but most of the western states) are sticking their heads in their sand because their weapons manufactures are used to being used more for laundering tax payer money to the right people then for making great weapons. The main drones for the US cost between 30-40 million EACH!

Furthermore, Israel is going through all of the copium that settler colonialist societies go through when their martial superiority is starting to come into question. They clutch harder to their beliefs that make them feel secure. Israel withdrew in 2006 and declared themselves victors when it was obvious that they were not victors at all. Now, that is all that Israel remembers about 2006. That they won. That is what they truly believe.

There are a lot of delusions that are about to break here. That is why I say that if they try with Hezbollah, that it will be a ‘Find Out’ stage.

EDIT: Also, people tend to use the wrong measurement for what they consider to make an army strong. One of the most important factors is a willingness for a military to take causalities. There are very few armies stronger than Hezbollah by this measurement, whereas Israel has been very weak on this front since the early 2000’s. Having a conscript army will do that.

Count042 ,

If they do, that will very likely pull in Iran, Russia, and now with the recent agreement, possibly North Korea.

The US is not as big as they were in the late nineties and early aughts.

Count042 ,

The scenario I described is World War 3.

That what Bibi, and Biden with his unwavering support, are playing with.

then you’re sorely mistaken about how truly insane US defense spending is.

NevermindNoMind already made this point to you but it bears repeating, Money spent doesn’t translate into combat effectiveness. In fact, it tends to actually go against it. EDIT: Or, more specifically, money spent on individual weapon systems. The best weapon is the cheap one that can be mass produced, even if there are better weapon systems.

Ansarallah has been clear that part of their missile strategy is to eat into our budgets. They’ve been winning by that strategy. The total cost of their drones/missiles used against the US was in the several hundred thousand range, and the estimate for the missile defense ammo the US has used is around a billion dollars, and that was several months ago. Even the US can’t compete with that cost disparity.

Secondly, it doesn’t matter how many ships you have if you can’t resupply them with ammo. America outsourced its production capabilities. It didn’t outsource its weapon production facilities, but we can’t convert the facilities we don’t have any more to support increased ammo production, and we don’t have enough weapons factories to supply the requisite ammo for continued operations in a modern war.

Third, your usage of “just planes and helicopters” is stupid beyond description. I am not willing to agree with you that the US will have air superiority in all theaters, which sadly is what its military doctrine both requires and assumes. (Which, by the by, is why the NATO trained Ukrainians did so poorly with their spring offensive. It’s not their fault they couldn’t use tactics that assume air superiority that they didn’t have, but jesus the NATO people switched to racism right quick to explain the failure.) However, other countries doctrine assumes that air superiority won’t be theirs.

Iran, for example, assumes they won’t have air superiority from the start and so they spent most of their engineering time on missile technology. The Russians have tried to compete with their aircraft, but focused mainly on their G2A anti-air defenses. Now, even with Syria and Ukraine, there still isn’t a lot of info on the effectiveness of the S400 in against the American Airforce.

It also doesn’t account for the huge disparity in drone deployment capability which is frankly the future of the next war. And the US fails at this completely. The two main US drones cost 30 and 40 million a piece when the name of the game here is CHEAP. Frankly, Iran and now Russia beat our pants off on this topic. Even Hezbollah and Ansarallah have confirmed US drone kills. This is the scariest part. Culturally in the American military right now, being involved with drones was not seen as a career advancer, and definitely not something you’d want to put money into serious research.

This is more than I meant to write in response to a comment that basically amounts to a middle-schooler pounding their chest while screaming “My daddy can beat up your daddy” so I’m going to end it here.

If you think money translates to military readiness and sound doctrine, then you’re not thinking about this very hard at all.

Count042 , (edited )

LOL.

Yeah, that’s why the north is evacuated and Hezbollah is striking the north of Israel with impunity. How’s that Iron Dome working in the North?

Secondly, Hezbollah is probably, pound for pound, the most competent military force in the region right now. You want to discount that to feel safe, well, that’s part of the fuck around and find out. Thirdly, Iran will have this as an Casus Belli to enter the conflict, and the PMU’s in Iraq have already stated they will invade in the event of an invasion of Lebanon.

The only powers in the region that are threat to them are Turkey, Egypt, and Saudi Arabia.

This is what makes it clear that you are not a serious person in the area. Saudi Arabia couldn’t beat the poorest nation in the world with American planes, Columbian mercenaries, American refueling, and American intelligence all while starving the nation in an attempted genocide.

Saudia Arabia as a regional military power? That’s a bad joke. I can’t believe you wrote that with a straight face. They were literally beat by teenagers in flip flops.

Count042 , (edited )

Kidnapped, I think you mean.

The Israeli government kidnapped 640 children.

Count042 ,

I was about to answer this, but decided I didn’t want that information in public.

However, the bank I use, which is a largish one, has an app that I’ve installed with the aurora store without microg or google play services on divestos and it complains that it won’t work without gsf, but it works fine after clicking ok.

Count042 ,

Just to be clear, this is the West Bank, so it isn’t even Hamas.

Count042 ,

Wow, You actually don’t realize that Hamas is not a political organization in the West Bank. So, it isn’t even a war.

You’re literally justifying the murder of children here because they are Palestinian. You don’t even have the fig leaf of saying that it is a population that voted for Hamas.

You’re literally justifying the unjustifiable murder of children.

Count042 ,

Using that same logic, most of the Hamas members targeted by the Israelis are also civilians.

Remember, Hamas is a singular governmental organization that kept the militant wing separate from the civilian wing. i.e. Gazan Hospital Administator? Hamas.

That is a literal justification Israel has used to justify killing Gazan civilians, including police officers.

So, which is it? Are IDF reservists military, or are Gazan police and hospital administrators civilians?

You don’t get to have both.

Count042 ,

So Israel is killing a bunch of non-valid military targets and justifying it by saying they were Hamas. Got it.

You don’t actually have any standards or morals, and just want to justify everything as “With us or against us”

Count042 ,

That’s Southern Lebanon.

The political organization for the West Bank is the Palestinian Authority. It is viewed as completely subservient to the Israel government to the point of allowing the IDF to take Palestinian children hostages (Technically the IDF calls it an arrest, but there are no charges, and often times no trials. It is functionally equivalent to kidnapping.)

Regardless, you’ve made it clear you have literally no idea what you’re talking about and you are doing so in defense of the slaughter of innocent children.

Count042 ,

Can you read for me the title of this post, please?

I’m not certain, but I may be hallucinating words and need to verify that you’re not just changing a goal post to justify the slaughter of innocent children that literally have nothing to do with Israels war against Gaza.

Middle East Crisis: Blinken Calls Some Hamas Changes to Cease-Fire Proposal ‘Unacceptable’ (www.nytimes.com)

Speaking at a news conference in Doha, Qatar, alongside Qatar’s prime minister and minister of foreign affairs, Mohammed bin Abdulrahman Al Thani, Mr. Blinken said that “a deal was on the table that was virtually identical” to one that Hamas put forward on May 6....

Count042 ,

Says the individual trying to circumspectly justify genocide.

Any government intentionally withholding food, medicine, and potable water to a population it considers undesirable is a government intentionally committing genocide.

Count042 ,

That Israel rejected, I think you mean.

Count042 , (edited )

Controlling the borders and allowing in thousands of calories when hundreds of thousands or millions of calories are needed for the population is in fact genocide.

It’s not hard to understand unless you’re intentionally trying to justify genocide.

Most genocidaires in history don’t stop food completely, but let in a minimal amount of food to encourage infighting.

Count042 ,

Only if you believe the government caught lying multiple times in this war unconditionally.

Non-biased sources say that it is closer to 245 calories per day.

oxfam.org/…/people-northern-gaza-forced-survive-2…

Also, and this isn’t about the conflict, but people arguing in good faith don’t confuse per capita measurements with gross measurements and call the people making that point in one stupid for using those figures consistently. That just makes you an asshole.

ClEvEDaWnY

Count042 , (edited )

It’s not exactly Israel’s job to feed a hostile populace which declared war on them. I’m simply glad that they’re allowing food trucks in. It’s better than most would have done and empowers their enemies.

It literally is for countries occupying other countries during a war.

That is a job of an occupying force that if it doesn’t do is LITERALLY A WAR CRIME for exactly this reason.

The US, as bad as it was for what it did in the countries it invaded STILL didn’t do this. Israel is looking for special treatment by not having to live up to this standard that other countries in combat have lived up to.

I guess I really shouldn’t expect competence from a conscript army.

The math doesn’t add up. If Gazans are receiving 245 calories a day and about half the food trucks they need, then either the former or the latter is incorrect. LMAO

Northern Gaza, jackass. When you destroy distribution functions of a society, shit becomes non uniformly distributed.

Keep arguing with just utterly easy to show wrong responses based off of bad faith readings of what I’m saying, it makes my responses that much easier to write in an understandable format.

EDIT: Correction, I’m not wasting more time on a propaganda brained nationalist.

Count042 ,

Nope, but there has been a native population, blood thirsty colonizer.

The land wasn’t empty. You don’t get to pretend it was.

Count042 ,

Nope.

Things that you’ve done that make me think you are propaganda:

  1. Argued in bad faith ( intentionally conflating per-capita measurements with gross measurements to imply the other person is stupid, never acknowledges points where the other person has to correct you and instead just ignores the areas that you’ve been proven wrong )
  2. Believing only one source of information that is explicitly biased and comes from one of the combatants.
  3. Ignores sources of information from independent sources. This ties into point one, as you also don’t acknowledge any statements shown to be incorrect.

You’re free to disagree with anyone you want to. When you do the above you are either paid, or a dumbshit teenager that still enjoys trolling for the sake of trolling. I don’t really care which one it is, as you’re doing on the corpses of innocent children.

Oh, that’s right, from your other comments it is clear that you don’t believe there are any innocents in the region. Guess you forgot that collective punishment itself is also a war crime.

Count042 , (edited )

Tell all that to the Irgun: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irgun and Lehi: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lehi_(militant_group).

Jesus, this is like the output from chatgpt with the input being “How can I communicate that I don’t have knowledge about the history of the Levant without saying I know nothing about the history of the region”

Count042 , (edited )

Putting things in stupid caps doesn’t change international law. It also doesn’t change what literally every other nation in the world is expected to do, and does, in times of war.

You’re literally expecting different treatment for Israel, allowing them to commit war crimes, because they’re … special?

You do realize that having a different response to Israel doing something versus other countries is literally one of the definitions of antisemitism from the IHRA, right?

I wish the Israelis weren’t intent on intentionally causing as much collateral damage as possible to intentionally thin the population to a minimum(An intention actually stated by Bibi.)

Count042 ,

Yes, the response to Israel doing something is indeed always more severe than when any other country does it.

This is you doing the bad faith thing again. You knew what I meant. I can back it up with facts. But instead you don’t engage with something that you can’t back up, and just ignore the point I’m making.

There is not a single country on this planet which would tolerate an organization like Hamas remaining in power after an event like Oct 7.

Too bad the IDF is really just an air force that hasn’t yet learned the lesson that an air force can’t hold territory, and the only strategy they have is bombing civilians when the militants absolutely own most of the engagements they get into with the conscript army.

In other words, Israel has to learn to live with Hamas, because they can’t handle them any way other then through genocide.

Also, you don’t make peace with your friends. You make peace with your enemies. That is why it is called making peace, and why it is hard.

Count042 ,

You’re also a racist that believes all Palestinians want to kill all Israelis.

You state this openly, and then post a link to a study that doesn’t make that claim at all or anything resembling it and call it a source. Which, of course, isn’t how sources work. This is how sources work: lemmy.ml/post/15906506/11178832 The important bit there is that the source actually shows what I said it shows because I’m not a bad faith liar that enjoys justifying genocide.

You’re already insisting one side is good and one side is bad when you intentionally, and surreptitiously lie to try and get people to think your racist statement is true, hoping they don’t actually click through to your so-called sources.

So, please, pardon me if I don’t believe your bullshit pretending you want peace between the two sides.

Count042 ,

No, sources link by linking to the thing you say you’re linking to.

In this example, I’m linking to your disgusting racist lie in your post that you also appended a source to that didn’t corroborate your racist lie.

I’m going to be curious to see if you end up editing out the proof of your racism eventually in the future.

Count042 ,

That needs to be the British empire.

Count042 ,

This is incorrect. What you’d are doing while purely downloading is legal.

Bit torrent exposes you to liability not because you are downloading but because you’re sharing which courts have decided is distributing/performing, no matter how small the block you upload.

This is not an issue with Usenet.

Count042 , (edited )

Israel has already given signs of rejecting it.

nitter.poast.org/…/1796615894870917475#m

Keep in mind that Hamas had already accepted a ceasefire proposal that Bibi didn’t think they would accept and had to make up a whole story about a scapegoated Egyptian staffer changing irrelevant details to explain why Israel was rejecting the peace deal THEY THEMSELVES MADE!

Remember, Bibi is going to jail the moment the war ends for crimes he already committed that have nothing to do with this war. He literally has every reason to keep this war going as long as he can.

helped by sanctimonious assholes on social media pre-judging

That’s you. You’re the ignorant person here trying to shit on people that actually know what they’re talking about.

Count042 , (edited )

Hey look, it’s everyone’s favorite genocide denier spreading more bullshit.

What would happen to me if I said that the invasion of Gaza was a genocide in Tel Aviv? Would I be arrested?

Huh, What would happen?

Can I get married in Israel if I’m gay?

Does Israel threaten gay Palestinians with being outed if they don’t cooperate as spies?

Count042 ,

The bit where you call an ethnostate actively engaged in a genocide liberal and progressive.

I’m still waiting on you answering my questions.

Come on, I answered yours. You didn’t even have to wait long.

I’ll wait.

Count042 ,

Okay, Rhodesia.

Count042 ,

Huh, it’s almost like conscript armies are shit at their job.

I realize that sounds like sarcasm aimed at you, SuddenDownpour, but it isn’t meant that way.

Count042 ,

Okay Genocide justifier.

You do realize this logic is the same as if someone from a different household punches you, it gives you the moral right to shoot someone else from that same household in the head, right?

Finally, this blind allegiance to a morally wrong actor is going to make the rest of the world treat Israelis as the world treated Apartheid South Africans. I hope you enjoy being ostracized.

Count042 ,

Claiming something is a false equivalence doesn’t make it so. You want to make a claim like that, you have to justify it.

But I know you won’t, because you’re happy with the charred corpses of babies.

Count042 ,

Any nation that intentionally withholds food, medicine and potable water from a people that it finds inconvenient is a government intentionally committing genocide.

Count042 , (edited )

Ever consider the possibility that an extended campaign like we’re seeing is simply not something they were prepared to do?

Doesn’t matter. It’s still attempted genocide if you starve a population to death.

Also also, Israel asked for help from Arab countries in distributing food and Arab countries refused.

Doesn’t matter. It’s still genocide. Also those leaders are having problems because their people are furious over the fact that they’ve been paid off to let a genocide happen. Also, THAT IS ISRAEL’S RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE WAR. Implying your inaction that you are responsible for because no one will help you out is the stupidest examples of so called logic I’ve seen in this site.

Also also also, a lot of the logistics for the pier Biden put in place is being done in Israel.

I think you misspelled Cyprus. Also that pier hasn’t delivered even a single load of assistance to the Palestinians.

All of these contradict your narrative of Palestinians being intentionally starved. And remember if Hamas surrendered the logistical problems of feeding people in a warzone would go away. But if you’re giving Hamas a pass on the genocide they committed on October 7, I’m sure you’ll give them a pass on refusing to release the hostages (remember, taking civilians as hostages is war crime) and continuing a war that risks starvation of Palestinians. And why would they care about people starving? People will support them more while they hide in their bunkers with their hostages while their people starve. A psychopath is fine with people starving if it benefits them. And Palestinians starving benefits Hamas, so why would they want to do anything to prevent it?

More stupidity.

Count042 ,

How much money does el-Sisi get from the US and the IMF?

You need to read more, you’re brain is infested with settler colonialism justifications for starving people

Get help yourself, genocide justifier.

Tell me, is genocide ever justified? Reading your posts, it seems you believe that you do.

Count042 ,

Most Gazans want to kill every Israeli Source

Still waiting on that source. Cause that link you posted didn’t make that claim at all.

Did you not read it, like, at all? Or are you lying intentionally to try and justify genocide and try and make a black and white issue (Is genocide ever justified?) into something … nuanced?

I will say, this is the most subtle form of pro-genocide propaganda I’ve seen. Well done.

Count042 ,

You don’t see a path to peace because you believe most Gazan’s want to kill all Israelis.

A claim, I might add, that you state as fact and then post links to the supposed source that doesn’t say anything like that at all.

You’re either so incredibly biased you don’t see your own bias while congratulating yourself on how open minded you are, or you’re intentionally trying to lie in a subtle manner to try and sway others.

Given the maliciousness of posting a fake source to claim a non-existent genocidal desire OF A POPULATION CURRENTLY BEING GENOCIDED, I’m guessing the later.

Count042 , (edited )

A besieged populations support of a military operation that had a lower percentage of civilian deaths by at least two, possibly three, orders of magnitude compared to Israels actions over the last 7 months is a far cry from asking people if they support the slaughter of every Israeli, and you know it.

By that same level of evidence and logic, a higher percentage of Israelis want the entire slaughter of the Gazan population.

I will also point out that there is a secondary form of justice for Palestinian people in the west bank and East Jerusalem then there are for the settlers. Palestinian children frequently get arrested (read kidnapped) and sentenced by a military tribunal with no evidence. Whereas the settlers use the IDF as armed guards while they try to ethnically cleanse villages from the west bank, and if they do get arrested they have a jury trial with standards of evidence. To me, those 15,000 Palestinian prisoners are not prisoners, but hostages.

Prisoner vs hostage
Arrest vs kidnap
Support for a military action vs desire for genocide

It’s all in the words you use, isn’t it?

Thanks for revealing yourself as a subtle genocide defender. I really was curious which one you were.

Count042 ,

It really is.

Any country that intentionally withholds food, medicine, and potable water from a population it considers undesirable is a government intentionally committing genocide.

Is genocide ever justified is a yes or no question. Only one answer makes you a monster

You lied about the results of a survey to imply something the survey didn’t ask in order to slander a population being genocided.

Furthermore, you defended that lie with a self-righteous tirade rather than acknowledging your lie.

It’s rather beside the point but there are multiple surveys of the Gazan population that asks the questions you lied about and came out with a much different conclusion.

Biden: what would Trump have done if the Capitol riots had been led by Black Americans? (www.theguardian.com)

Joe Biden has launched one of his most scathing attacks yet on Donald Trump’s record of racism, suggesting that the former US president would have acted differently to the January 6 2021 insurrection if was led by Black people....

Count042 ,

Whomever you want. Just don’t blame the people personally affected by Biden decision to back a genocide when he loses.

Count042 , (edited )

Someone needs to beat into your skull some reading comprehension.

Nothing you’ve said has any bearing on what I said.

You’re arguing in an empty room against yourself.

Read better.

Count042 ,

It doesn’t get worse then watching your child starve to death.

There are certain red lines where the argument for harm-reduction is just justification for evil. Genocide is one of those red lines.

Count042 , (edited )

The Pentagon press secretary announced today that not a single article of aid that has passed through that pier made it to Gazans.

It’s been operating for five days and cost an estimated 320 million and its done fuck all.

So, yeah, it would actually be a good thing. Did you actually believe Biden meant for that pier to do anything?

Did you believe that like you believe the House alone could pass laws?

Or do you only respond when you haven’t been proven wrong on something you double down on while insulting others for?

Count042 ,

You should have said ‘sung’, as it is extremely apparent that you have no reading comprehension skills.

Count042 ,

How’s that Pier doing?

Count042 ,

We’ll see if your reading comprehension liabilities extend to self-hosting.

Seafile is extremely easy to set up and does one thing and one thing well.

It does store your data as binaries, so it would be a bit harder to restore than Nextcloud due to that, but I’ve never had an issue with seafile.

Of course, I didn’t have a problem with Nextcloud until an upgrade borked the installation bad enough that even restoring from backup couldn’t solve the issue.

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