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anteaters , in Watch: Billionaire CEO says unemployment 'has to jump' to put 'arrogant' workers in their place

Oh it’s that guy:

Gurner said in May 2017 that millennials should not be buying smashed avocado on toast and $4 lattes in their pursuit of home ownership.

Truly a maker of memes.

WhatAmLemmy ,

It’s the 21st Century’s “let them eat cake”. Hopefully he’ll see the same fate as Marie Antoinette.

abraxas ,

Yeah, that’s someone who has so much money he doesn’t understand it.

If a $4 latte a day is a significant financial burden for you, you will never own a home. If you can own a home, that $4 latte will have no effect on that.

And the avacado toast? The health effects alone are likely to pay for itself in the medium-term.

IDontHavePantsOn ,

I mean it’s one piece of toast. What could it cost? $10?

Nails ,

These days? In this country? In this economy? I wish…

stereofony ,

You jest but there’s literally a hipster coffee shop in SF that famously sells a $10 toast…as of 2014 when I first heard about it from my roommate who worked there so it’s probably $15 by now.

solstice ,

Man I wish I could buy a $4 latte. Prices for everything are just insane these days. I feel like a basic bitch coffee and croissant at any random place is gonna be $10 now. They’re trying to tell us it’s monetary inflation and/or supply chains but that’s all bullshit. I’m in Northern Europe right now and even in pricey chic downtown areas it’ll be like €5 tops.

lazyvar , in Ashton Kutcher, Mila Kunis Wrote Letters in Support of Danny Masterson Ahead of Rape Sentencing; Kutcher Called Him a ‘Role Model’
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I get asking for mercy for family or a close friend, even when they’ve committed crimes, heinous or otherwise. I’ll chalk that up to human emotions.

But ffs, read the room a bit.

His dedication to leading a drug-free life and the genuine care he extends to others make him an outstanding role model and friend.

One of the most remarkable aspects of Danny’s character is his unwavering commitment to discouraging the use of drugs.

His dedication to avoiding all substances has inspired not only me but also countless others in our circle. Danny’s steadfastness in promoting a drug-free lifestyle has been a guiding light in my journey through the entertainment world and has helped me prioritize my well-being and focus on make responsible choices.

Saying stuff like that when he’s convicted of drugging victims before taping them is just nuts. Even by some sense of stupidity you think you’re just trying to highlight that he’s not a habitual drug user, you’re essentially just highlighting how calculated his actions were by drugging his victims.

Silverseren ,

Also, in what manner would personal drug use have anything to do with him being a rapist? Their attempted defense is irrelevant.

SomeoneElse ,

I commented elsewhere that I wondered if they believe he’s innocent. If they truly believe this is a miscarriage of justice could these letters be written with his appeal in mind? There’s no physical evidence as I understand, maybe they’re going for the “this guy is so sober he wouldn’t even know how to get drugs” angle? I’m just talking out of my arse now but I’m so confused by the level of support for him I can’t help but clutch at straws to try to explain it.

hypelightfly ,

If it was drug charges sure, but it's not. Drug use is irrelevant.

He raped multiple women.

killeronthecorner ,
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He drugged the women so it’s relevant in that sense. Implying that he wouldn’t know how to obtain the substances needed to do that is an argument for his innocence.

It’s a pathetic argument to make, but it’s not illogical.

FlyingSquid ,
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Having worked in the entertainment industry- if a drug exists and you want it, you can get it. So everyone knows how to get drugs. That part isn’t all that hard to believe.

DessertStorms ,
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I’m just talking out of my arse now but I’m so confused by the level of support for him I can’t help but clutch at straws to try to explain it.

manipulators be manipulating.

Rapists and other abusers are known to very often charm everyone around them. It isn't only a way to lure in their victims, but it's also a great defence against suspicion ("he's such a nice guy, he could never") which has proven to work over and over and over again (and those are just the most famous cases off the top of my head, but the pattern repeats often at all levels of wealth and fame/anonymity).

aceshigh ,
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abusers have to be charming, if they weren’t then they’d have no one to manipulate.

lps2 ,

It’s not a defense, it’s just a character statement to be taken into account in sentencing. I too think Kutcher shouldn’t have written it, but it’s not any kind of defense of the charges

relative_iterator ,
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But he didn’t do the drugs! /s

who8mydamnoreos ,

People who preach often about not doing the minor vices, are usually engaged in some heinous shit; the preaching bit is a cover both lying to others and most importantly themselves

Nougat ,

So ... what they're saying is that he was stone cold sober when he was drugging his victims? That's not a great look.

aceshigh ,
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a look of an opportunistic predator.

jonne ,

Yeah, he would’ve been a better person if he did more drugs and less raping.

Bonesince1997 ,

I didn’t read the rest of the letter, the paragraphs expressing nondrug use sounded exactly like it needed this to be pointed out. What a silly bar anyway, did you use drugs or not. Then to hear he used them on his victims…these letters are just clueless.

iforgotmyinstance ,

Pretty sure the drug free commitment is from his Scientologist handlers.

Masterson was born to rich socialites and insulated from consequences his whole life. Fuck that shithead.

aceshigh ,
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so let me get this straight, danny would get drugs and instead of using it himself, he used it on unsuspecting victims and then taped himself raping them. and this has been a “a guiding light in (ashtons) journey”… “of making responsible choices”…? what.the.fuck?!

DessertStorms ,
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At this point it's basically telling on yourself (if it isn't skeletons in his own closet, at bare minimum it's saying he's a piece of shit who openly supports a rapist. A convicted one at that).

Neato ,
@Neato@kbin.social avatar

Probably a bit of, "I can't believe my friend would do these bad things." People close to someone are harder to convince without seeing things first hand or hearing from other people they are close to.

FlyingSquid , in Russians Are Strangely Stumped About Why Moscow Is Getting Bombed
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Could it be that the leopards have decided to turn around and eat our faces?

LoveSausage ,
@LoveSausage@lemmygrad.ml avatar

Kinda like 9/11 then?

Hank ,

I bet the terrorists feel really stupid now knowing that two decades later they could just use drones.

yip-bonk ,
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Funny story . . .

Cylusthevirus ,
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I don't get how a supposedly socialist instance shills so hard for an oligopoly run by a low grade Bond villain.

yip-bonk ,
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Because they were socialist for, like, ten minutes? Then went straight to totalitarianism?

LoveSausage , (edited )
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Yea not cheering on attacks on civilians are such shilling lol edit admin removed my previous comment as uncivil. I guess there is a big difference of being uncivil depending on the nationality of the victims. Fuckin libs

30mag ,

What? Who is shilling for Putin?

Brunbrun6766 , in Trump returns to X, the site formerly known as Twitter, shortly after surrendering in Georgia
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“Never Surrender!” he tweeted, after surrendering

WarmSoda ,

For the fourth time.

FuglyDuck ,
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He’s a total looser. He lost the election, he lost the “legal” challenged and the recounts and the “legal” challenges of the recounts and the recounts of the recounts…., he lost the coup attempt … he just keeps loosing.

Vorticity ,

While the spelling doesn’t match the pronunciation…

Loser Losing

dyathinkhesaurus ,

He’s winning at losing. I wonder if he’s getting tired of winning at losing to all this legal shit. Most indictments, most insurrections, most impeachments, most sexual assault suits…

SpunkyBarnes , in Trump replaces top Georgia lawyer ahead of surrender

Guess who’s not getting paid.

DoctorWhookah ,

This guy would rather see his name in the newspaper than on a check.

WhyYesZoidberg ,

imagine having to work for a former president pro-bono. that’s some alternate reality shit

breadsmasher ,
@breadsmasher@lemmy.world avatar

Everyone working for trump

DocMcStuffin ,
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There are two kinds of people that work for Trump. One kind understands the phrase “cash up front”, the others are the true believers. One group may get paid. The others won’t and may even end up in jail when they inevitably break the law.

Lutefisky ,

You’d have to be an idiot to not demand some cash up front for defending Trump.

Granite ,

Absolutely.

Now, I wonder if this new lawyer is getting paid…

Burn_The_Right ,

Paid? PAID?! I told you never to use that word. You’re fired. NEXT!

Pronell ,

It says “No, money down!”

Snowpix ,
@Snowpix@lemmy.ca avatar

Oops, shouldn’t have this bar association logo here either…

kent_eh ,

Both lawyers, probably.

ikidd ,
@ikidd@lemmy.world avatar

Must have sent a bill, smart guy.

athos77 , in Kansas Newspaper Says Its Co-Owner Has Died After Being Traumatized by Police Raid

RIP, Joan.

Also, the following is courtesy of @roguetrick in one of the other threads:

This is the important bit: https://thehandbasket.substack.com/p/a-conversation-with-the-newspaper

EM: So the backstory that we haven't told, because we don't wanna get in trouble, is that we've been investigating the police chief [Gideon Cody]. When he was named Chief just two months ago, we got an outpouring of calls from his former co-workers making a wide array of allegations against him saying that he was about to be demoted at his previous job and that he retired to avoid demotion and punishment over sexual misconduct charges and other things.

We had half a dozen or more different anonymous sources calling in about that. Well, we never ran that because we never could get any of them to go on the record, and we never could get his personnel file. But the allegations—including the identities of who made the allegations—were on one of the computers that got seized. I may be paranoid that this has anything to do with it, but when people come and seize your computer, you tend to be a little paranoid.

Neato ,
@Neato@kbin.social avatar

If I was one of those 6 people, I'd be moving the fuck out of Kansas ASAP. That's seems like almost certainly a motive in seizing their equipment.

SwallowsDick ,

Where’s the FBI raiding the police department when you need them

athos77 , (edited )

It certainly explains why the cops were so willing to go along with an illegal search warrant. Heck, maybe it wasn't even that the restaurant owner went to the cops to complain after the city hall meeting; maybe the police chief saw this as an opportunity to raid the newspaper and take the names and he approached the restaurant owner.

Edit: another story here has the police chief posting on the department's Facebook page:

The Act requires criminal investigators to get a subpoena instead of a search warrant when seeking “work product materials” and “documentary materials” from the press, except in circumstances, including: (1) when there is reason to believe the journalist is taking part in the underlying wrongdoing.

Which is bull. The newspaper was emailed information which they did not publish and which they reported to the police. They were not 'taking part in the underlying wrongdoing'. 1312, especially the Marion County police chief.

TWeaK ,

This is mentioned in this article anyway:

According to Meyer, a retired University of Illinois journalism professor, the raid came after a confidential source leaked sensitive documents to the newspaper about local restaurateur Kari Newell. The source, Meyer said, provided evidence that Newell had been convicted of DUI and was driving without a license—a fact that could spell trouble for her liquor license and catering business.

Meyer, however, said he ultimately did not decide to publish the story about Newell after questioning the motivations of the source. Instead, he said, he just alerted the police of the information.

“We thought we were being set up,” Meyer said about the confidential information.

The raid immediately sparked outrage online, calling into question why an entire police force was involved in a raid that could have violated federal law and could escalate the ongoing anti-press rhetoric that is dangerous for journalists simply doing their jobs.

NatakuNox , in Massachusetts couple denied foster care application over LGBTQ views, complaint says
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This is why LGBTQ rights is so important. Imagine being a foster kids because of the US failed social safety net, only to be re homed in a religious bigoted house?! That’s what the GOP wants for kids.

Diprount_Tomato ,
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“This is why protecting traditional families is so important. Imagine being a foster kids because of the US failed social safety net, only to be re homed in a LGBT groomer house?! That’s what the GOP wants for kids.”

I literally just changed two things and it went 180 degrees on the other extremist side of the spectrum. Do with that info as you wish

kescusay ,
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And with such a simple change, you turned it into a disgusting and bigoted lie, when the person you responded to was completely accurate.

Unaware7013 ,

Yeah, you can make anything sound bad when you just lie and make shit up.

Diprount_Tomato ,
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Could say the same of you calling everyone that points out the dangers of dehumanising “bigots”

Unaware7013 ,

You can say anything, that doesn't make it correct. And it's funny how people call themselves out, because I only call people exhibiting bigotry bigots.

If you're being called a bigot, maybe examine your beliefs and actions. After all, if it smells like shit everywhere you go, it's probably you.

girlfreddy ,
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@Unaware7013 @MicroWave @NatakuNox @Diprount_Tomato

My block button is getting quite the workout these last 10 days or so.

Was there a mass migration I didn't hear about?

Diprount_Tomato ,
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Good luck thinking looking the other way will make people who you disagree with disappear

Diprount_Tomato ,
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If thinking having two halves of a country willing to kill each other to be insane makes people call you a bigot, maybe I’m not the one that stinks after all

Unaware7013 ,

No one thinks you're a bigot for that belief, climb down off your cross or just be honest about your actions.

Diprount_Tomato ,
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Yet I’m being called one for it

Unaware7013 ,

Then post receipts, because I'm sure you're not telling me the whole truth.

Diprount_Tomato ,
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What?

Unaware7013 ,

I'm telling you to post proof of you being called a bigot because of not wanting Americans to kill each other or whatever your argument is. I want to see what you're saying that makes people think you're a bigot.

Diprount_Tomato ,
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I literally got called a bigot here for pointing out extremism

Unaware7013 ,

That's not proof of you being called a bigot unwarranted.

Diprount_Tomato ,
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Guess you don’t want to see it

May God bless your soul

Unaware7013 ,

Lol, in other words, that never happened. If it did, you'd be showing me just how wrong I am, rather than constantly making empty claims about it.

So again, post your proof if you're not just lying on the Internet about being called a bigot for no reason. Otherwise, I'm probably right to assume you're being called a bigot for entirely warranted reasons.

czech ,
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Do with that info as you wish

You mean put it into proper context, look at the stats, and acknowledge you're full of shit? Sure thing! But you won't let facts get in the way of your feelings amirite?

x4740N ,
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Have fun having your comments being removed bigot

Diprount_Tomato ,
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  • NatakuNox ,
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    Uhhhh what? One, “traditional families” aren’t anti LGBTQ by default. Second, LGBTQ parents aren’t groomers. (can LGBTQ individuals be terrible humans just like everyone else? Yes!) Third, asking a foster family if they hate LGBTQ people is critical for the safety of foster children because mathematically 10% will be LGBTQ. And since there’s no “Gaydar” to tell you can’t risk putting any child with them!

    You didn’t prove anything except how ignorant you are. Do with that info as you wish

    Diprount_Tomato ,
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    Bro those aren’t my actual opinions

    NatakuNox ,
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    Bro don’t make ambiguous statements. Use your words more wisely so everyone knows exactly what you are saying

    Diprount_Tomato ,
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    Ok, maybe I needed to say that dehumanising and treating other human beings as demonic monsters is tearing countries apart

    TheBenCommandments ,
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    Don’t be a demonic monster you won’t be treated like one.

    Diprount_Tomato ,
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    To the others you’re a demonic monster too, and until you realise that your country will sink down the drain

    TheBenCommandments ,
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    See the difference is that being tolerant and accepting of other people’s life choices that don’t impact my life is objectively not monster-esque, whereas imposing your beliefs and codifying hate and fear into laws that control what others can do with their lives is actually behaving like a monster.

    Diprount_Tomato ,
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    Any examples of “imposing beliefs and codifying hate”?

    I could definitely say that the constitution is nothing but a bunch of former British upper-class men who owned slaves and just wanted to evade taxes imposing their beliefs upon America and codifying it in a document

    Drivebyhaiku ,

    Pendantic though it may be… 30 percent is more accurate for children in foster care to be LGBTQIA+. Many lose their homes of origin and support BECAUSE they are LGBTQIA+ so the instance is way higher.

    Kind of a no brainer to have homo/transphobic foster parents struck from the rolls. It’s enough to be traumatized once by having your authentic self rejected by a supposed safe haven. Twice is unconscionable.

    bobs_monkey ,

    These boneheads seem to mix up up supportive with grooming. I had a conversation at a bar the other day with some dipshit that said if you support your child coming out as gay or trans, you’re effectively grooming them to be a sexual deviant. They fail to realize that grooming is an active nudge or conditioning in the direction of a desired behavior, whereas being supportive is unconditional love regardless of identity. My buddy’s kid is identifying as a girl atm, and while he and I both think it’s a phase (he’s 15 and just an awkward kid in general), we are supportive of his/her choice.

    On the other hand, there are parents out there that actively nudge their kids into being some brand of queer from a young age (not just in providing an open minded atmosphere, but almost to discerning them gay from a stupid young age) that, to me, begins to cross a line. In my mind, let be kids be kids that become teenagers and then adults, and just support them in their choices while guiding them to be the best person they can be.

    FlyingSquid ,
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    You changed two things and into something imaginary. There is no such thing as an “LGBT groomer house.” You can’t force a child to be gay or trans no matter how much you want to.

    You might as well say “only to be rehomed in a dragon’s den.” It would make about the same amount of sense.

    Bartsbigbugbag ,

    That’s exactly what happened to me as a kid. As a bonus, these religious nutjobs sexually abused their actual kid, and because I was just a foster kid, I wasn’t believed. Thank god my mom was able to get me out of that hell hole, but the trauma it caused me was so deep I didn’t even recognize how deep it was for almost 20 years.

    NatakuNox ,
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    And now red states made it legal to kidnapping LGBTQ children from loving homes to traditional homes

    bobs_monkey ,

    Wait, they’re allowing kids to be removed from foster/adoptive homes and transferred to a religious home? On what grounds and who’s authority?

    NatakuNox ,
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    They are talking LGBTQ kids from their families because gender affirming care is illegal.

    HotDogFingies ,
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    I don't know what to say. I'm so sorry you went through that.

    Bartsbigbugbag ,

    Nah don’t be sorry, just be angry at a system that allows such things, and at a religion that shields such people. I came out okay in the end, because I have a family that loves me and helps support me through my traumas, but I don’t know what happened to their kid, or if they were ever stopped. That’s the part that bothers me. Knowing that those sickos could still be out there presenting themselves as righteous Christians while doing such things.

    XOXOX , in Harley-Davidson drops DEI initiatives amid pressure from ‘anti-woke’ activists

    I can’t wait for those noise polluting fuckers to go out of business when the boomers die.

    Dud ,
    @Dud@lemmy.world avatar

    I rode a Honda Shadow, fun little cruiser until an old lady took me out. The false ego and grand standing from the Harley guys was fuckin obnoxious, nearly as bad as the coal roller bros.

    marx2k ,

    I, too, rode a Honda shadow. I quickly grew tired of that upright sitting position on classic cruisers. Longer rides made my spine feel every fucking bump.

    On a separate note…

    Fuck all of those Harley bitches that bought into the lifestyle riding around without helmets on the weekend.

    Dud ,
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    Judging by the damage to my helmet I would not be typing right now if I didn’t roll out in full gear every time.

    Cadeillac ,
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    I hope you got a new helmet

    Dud ,
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    Nope, no new bike either though. Between being out of work for 6 months for physical recuperation and the mental toll it took on me it’s taking a long time to bounce back financially. Doubly so with rent sucking my soul out on top of it.

    recapitated ,

    Sshhh don’t tell them about helmets

    SnotFlickerman , in Uvalde shooter’s uncle begged police to let him talk to the gunman
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    These “brave” men and women of the Uvalde police force who are dedicated to doing fuck-all when crisis breaks out.

    How can it be that we keep finding out more shit that paints these cops as completely fucking useless?

    …and somehow US cops are confused as to why people don’t trust them, think they’re a joke, and want to see them defunded.

    Pheonixdown ,

    Without disputing that there were a lot of fuckups, this feels like a kind of pointless article given the uncle called 10 minutes after the shooter was shot by police, not sure there was much he could have done at that point.

    _bcron ,

    Useless, or cruel and malicious? A lot of what they did seems to have been in bad faith

    Empricorn ,

    Useless? Yes. Lazy and scared? Also yes. But cruel and malicious? No, I just don’t see the evidence of that. Even if these weren’t members of their own small community, more bloodshed means more paperwork. Let’s give the Uvalde Police the respect they deserve: the absolute minimum.

    _bcron ,

    Multiple people wanted to enter but the police collectively detained them. Does that not reek of intent? They stripped other willing cops of guns and sent them off, against one shooter. Basically bouncers preventing any effort to subdue the shooter

    thefartographer ,

    They have limited value. Give them $11,000

    dan1101 ,

    Not only doing nothing but actively preventing anyone from trying to do something.

    davidagain , in Trump Cancels a Debate With Harris on ABC News and Pitches One With Fox News Instead

    In what sense has he agreed something if no one else involved knows about it? I think the right verb here is ‘suggests’.

    Maggoty , (edited )

    He made a post saying that’s the “deal”. In a way it’s a brave brazen way to try and get a venue change. Harris would have to basically insult Fox News and their entire viewership to avoid looking like she’s walking away.

    shani66 ,

    Which (insulting fox and their viewers) she should do regardless, tbh

    nomous ,

    If she can go on Fox News and score a couple points against him it’ll go very well for her though; going into the proverbial lions den and coming out the other side

    No (current) Harris voters are watching Fox News right now, she only stands to gain votes if she handles herself.

    zalgotext ,

    Yeah putting this on Fox seems like a super risky move on the Trump campaign’s part, for not that much gain.

    MutilationWave ,

    They’re scared. Nobody get complacent.

    Ragnarok314159 ,

    It won’t. There is nothing to gain in debating baby Donnie on Fox News.

    n0m4n ,

    Gov Newsom destroyed when he was on Fox. I don’t think that Fox will repeat their mistake.

    Maggoty ,

    That’s a quick way to lose an election. Almost like calling people deplorable. That worked great didn’t it?

    shani66 ,

    That was one of the very few good things she did. Hilary is just a deeply unlikable person.

    Maggoty ,

    Insulting voters is never a good move in an election.

    Lucidlethargy ,

    Brave isn’t the right word. Brazen is.

    Maggoty ,

    Yeah I can’t always with the words.

    davidagain ,

    Again, it’s not a deal if you don’t have agreement. That’s not a deal, it’s an offer.

    Maggoty ,

    I know that and you know that. But do the people who just watch Sinclair News know that?

    msage ,

    That’s what Trump is doing to ABC right now

    Maggoty ,

    And she’s calling him out in a way I couldn’t see happening before. I’m glad to see it.

    cranakis , in A manipulated video shared by Musk mimics Harris' voice, raising concerns about AI in politics

    (The video) claims Harris is a “diversity hire” because she is a woman and a person of color, and it says she doesn’t know “the first thing about running the country.”

    Classy as always right wingers. /s

    g0nz0li0 ,

    “This former AG, Senator, and VP has no idea how to run this country!” - Conservative Clowns everywhere.

    Wiz ,

    But the game show host and the hillbilly writer can run the country, Amiright?

    SpaceCowboy ,
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    Hey now… he was also the inspiration for most of the villains in the movies we watched as kids.

    pastabatman ,

    It’s not mentioned in the article, but the fake voice in the video also says “Another trick I have is to try and sound black.” It’s really bad.

    assassin_aragorn ,

    Republican leadership and their mythical moderates: “Guys we have to stop the personal attacks, they’re making us look bad and just help Harris”

    They seem to sometimes forget who all is in the party lmao. This is who they are.

    kent_eh ,

    Always singing the same old songs.

    pezhore , in ‘The new normal’: work from home is here to stay, US data shows
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    I started a new position in my company in February 2020, just weeks before the lock down. Since then I’ve been almost entirely working from home, coming into the office maybe 10 days over the past 4 years.

    During that time I’ve been promoted, gotten a separate pay raise to a new band, helped onboard the entire rest of my team (two of whom are completely remote).

    I’ve done nothing but prove over and over again that I am excelling at my job remotely.

    They are still pushing for me to come back to a “hybrid” 3 day a week schedule. Madness.

    Evotech ,

    I think hybrid has its place. But it’s definitely not a one size fits all

    corsicanguppy ,

    It needs to be a choice.

    Don’t worry: we won’t forget you extroverts like you didn’t forg-- wait a sec.

    corsicanguppy , (edited )

    still pushing for me to come back to a “hybrid” 3 day a week schedule

    Offer to come back on a part-time basis, with them deciding which days you are working from home.

    Those - the days you’re working safely from home - will be the days you work for them. But it’s entirely up to them how many days each week they have you as a resource.

    uis ,

    They are still pushing for me to come back to a “hybrid” 3 day a week schedule. Madness.

    3 days at office or 3-days work week?

    pezhore ,
    @pezhore@lemmy.ml avatar

    Three days per work week “on average” - but with no details over what timeframe that average is calculated.

    uis ,

    7-day work week for 3/7 of the year

    GiddyGap , in 'Before marrying Melania in 2005': What new documents claim about Trump-Epstein

    There’s literally nothing Donald Trump could do that would make his worshipping voters change their minds about him. They believe anything critical of him is a lie and made up to hurt him politically. I can’t believe how dumb the electorate has become. Must be a general lack of education.

    ChickenLadyLovesLife ,

    Must be a general lack of education.

    Republican politicians have long used language targeted at a 5th grade level of comprehension. Trump’s big innovation in politics was targeting a 4th grade level.

    GiddyGap ,

    I often hear conservative family members complain about the public school system and calling for it to be dismantled. To them, the public school system is the reason for every evil the US faces, both on economic issues and social issues. They all listen to a lot of conservative talk radio and happily mix bible quotes and Rush Limbaugh quotes into the same sentence.

    EmpathicVagrant ,

    Just like testing for covid, if you never learn about something it never existed.

    GiddyGap ,

    Yes, it’s the same family members who refused to do their part by getting vaccinated and were convinced that the rest of us would be dead by now from the “government poison vaccine.”

    Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In ,

    More education generally means richer.

    Rich people generally pay for better education.

    Children generally vote the same as their parents.

    Richer generally means more likely to vote republican.

    GiddyGap ,

    More education generally means richer.

    Very US-centric take. College education should be part of the general public education system like it is in Europe. It should not be connected to a person’s net worth. In Europe, you go to college based on merits, not wealth.

    I also think it’s a very questionable conclusion to say that the more educated people are, the more they vote Republican. In fact, it’s the exact opposite. Hence, Republicans have incentive to keep people as dumb as possible.

    Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In ,

    Very US-centric take.

    The republican part, certainly

    In Europe, you go to college based on merits, not wealth.

    In Europe the rich also pay for additional education to maximise their offsprings merits. Maybe not to the same degree, but it is there.

    I also think it’s a very questionable conclusion to say that the more educated people are, the more they vote Republican

    Agreed. I specifically avoided drawing that conclusion.

    GiddyGap ,

    In Europe the rich also pay for additional education to maximise their offsprings merits. Maybe not to the same degree, but it is there.

    Maybe in a few countries like the UK, but expensive private education is not common in continental Europe. The best public universities are tuition free and provide some of the best education in the world. Rich and poor side by side in the auditorium.

    Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In ,

    Music lessons, sports training, after school clubs, as well as top up tuition for traditional subjects all cost money.

    oecd.org/…/private-spending-on-education.html?oec…

    GiddyGap ,

    You’re splitting hairs. Fact of the matter is that Europe is doing a much better job at making higher education available to all.

    Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In ,

    Compare the point you want to make

    Europe is doing a much better job at making higher education available to all.

    To my original statement

    Rich people generally pay for better education.

    The hairs you think we are splitting are on completely different heads.

    some_guy ,

    The outrage-machine of culture war has become so fervent that it’s the only thing they care about. I watch police bodycam videos because they’re genuinely unscripted (unlike reality tv). The frequency with which arrestees cite their poor living conditions as motivations for their actions always has me wondering how much they attribute their circumstance to oligarchs fucking us all over vs anger that’s turned outward towards groups that don’t affect them at all. Obviously, I’m projecting, but it’s something that drives my curiosity.

    Not_mikey , in ‘The Movement to Convince Biden to Not Run Is Real’

    Bidens about to go down as one of the worst Democrats in the last century because of his hubris if he doesn’t. His decent domestic agenda will be overshadowed by him ushering in another trump presidency by ignoring all the signs for him to drop out. He didn’t early last year when polls repeatedly showed that people thought he was too old. He didn’t when unnamed democrat was leading him by 10 points. He didn’t when his Gaza policy alienated large chunks of his base. If he doesn’t in the next couple weeks when there will probably be polls coming out showing majority support for him stepping down then he’s gone full head in the sand.

    It’s like RBG all over again, if these people could just get it through there heads to quit while there ahead they could preserve a decent legacy, instead of tarnishing it by leading the way to a regressive order that overturns everything they’ve done.

    Dkarma ,

    It’s too late for this kind of thinking. We can’t change horses mid stream

    mojo_raisin ,

    I thought that, but after last night, I wouldn’t let Biden cook in my kitchen without supervision.

    festus , (edited )

    Biden will lose against Trump. Changing candidates this late isn’t ideal but it’s better than guaranteed failure, and it’s better than after the convention if Biden deteroriates from where he’s currently at.

    Omegamanthethird ,
    @Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world avatar

    I’m not worried about him “deteriorating”. Anyone who has paid attention to him at all knows that was not reflective of his actual ability to lead. Hell, right after he sounded fine at the after party for anyone still listening.

    I’m only worried about people thinking he’s deteriorating. A lot of people have literally only seen that debate from him in the last year and nothing else.

    If we stay with Biden, he needs to get really aggressive with his image. Hang out with influencers, go to games, don’t talk about controversial politics while having fun (like with the ice cream).

    If we go a different direction it needs to happen now.

    I really don’t care which we do. But it’s an important conversation to have. This debate fiasco is 99% on Biden being unprepared. But image is everything for a candidate.

    BabyVi ,

    If your horse is on death’s door. And you’re crossing a stream. You’d better be prepared to swim.

    xmunk ,

    We can change horses if there’s overwhelming pressure to do it and it’s exceptionally well planned.

    What we absolutely can’t do is nominate someone else against Biden’s wishes and still have him on the ballot as an independent… that’s how you get folks like Woodrow Wilson.

    I, personally, think it’s doubtful that much pressure will materialize, but I’m prepared to be pleasantly surprised.

    fine_sandy_bottom ,

    Meh. Planning be damned. Just float someone under 60 and they’ll crush it.

    Maggoty ,

    It depends on how the democrat’s civil war goes in that case. If the replacement gets the lion’s share of the funding then people will abandon Biden. His polling really isn’t great.

    tate ,
    @tate@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

    You have to, if your horse literally can’t make it across. It may not go well, but you have no choice.

    lennybird ,
    @lennybird@lemmy.world avatar

    I disagree. I actually think you’d see a boost.

    • Acknowledging age concerns of the electorate = good.
    • Running someone fresh that appeals to this American Idol-esque popularity contest = good.
    • Running someone Republicans don’t have their talking-points fleshed out on = good.
    dragontamer ,

    Running someone fresh that appeals to this American Idol-esque popularity contest = good.

    What if no such person exists?

    Then you just lose and Trump becomes President by default. Do you have confidence that Democrats can rally behind an actually named person? And if so, what is the name of that person?

    I’m no Democrat. But I wouldn’t consider “replacing Biden by somebody” to be a serious option. You need to say “Replace Biden by SPECIFIC NAME HERE”. Otherwise you’re just throwing away the election before it even begins.

    lennybird ,
    @lennybird@lemmy.world avatar

    Are you asking that because you believe nobody is lining up wanting to be President, or that there is no candidate who fits that bill? Because I can think of half a dozen who both fit the bill and have obvious political ambitions:

    • Whitmer
    • Newsom
    • Buttigieg
    • Booker
    • Abrams
    • Warnock.

    All far more youthful; all far more charismatic. All who have enough national name recognition and would trounce Trump in debates and contrast of age alone.

    The question to me isn’t, “who else,” it’s, “Will Biden voluntarily step down and endorse such a person at the convention?”

    The polls prove this could work:nobody likes either candidate, people want new faces, and age is a problem. Just give them another choice on the Democratic ticket and it’s game-over for the convicted felon. If I could I’d be money this gives better odds than sticking it out with Biden.

    dragontamer ,

    I’m not into Democrats, so I honestly don’t know half the people on that list.

    Newsom needs to start resigning today to make the election. I think he’s off on technical grounds. And others have pointed out that he’s lower than Trump on a lot of polls. Buttigieg is homosexual and sad to say it, homophobia is on the rise. After the party’s experimentation with Hillary Clinton / Kamala I’m not sure that its a winning strategy. I know middle-aged white guy WASP is annoying, but its a trope for a reason.

    In all cases, Trump will deny the other pick as a “loser” and refuse to debate. You’ll be going into the election without ever getting on National stage. Its a huge set of risks.


    I’m not necessarily against it. But I also don’t think Biden’s performance was worse than Trump’s last night. A lot of this seems to be just Democrats getting nervous about themselves and their own choices.

    Whitmer

    I see she’s getting some press. I wouldn’t be against her, but I also don’t know much about her in general. Can she hold up against the Republican hate machine? We all know that Hillary couldn’t do it, so what makes Whitmer any better or more prepared?

    Biden did hold up vs Trump. Better or worse, he did prove himself. I recognize that people are worried about “newer, older Biden”. But there’s severe risks in switching a candidate now, especially as vetting likely hasn’t been completed by either side yet. (Democrats need to vet to figure out how Republicans are going to attack her). Its a complete mystery.

    fine_sandy_bottom ,

    Me too. I think you could change to more or less anyone and get a bump.

    It really seems as though the populace is extraordinarily weary of these two tired old assholes.

    Anyone under 60 would mop the floor with Trump’s toupee.

    rwhitisissle ,

    You have to understand that the average American functions off of lizard brain impulses. It would be probably go like this:

    Acknowledging age concerns of the electorate = show of weakness.

    Running someone fresh that appeals to this American Idol-esque popularity contest = show of weakness.

    Running someone Republicans don’t have their talking-points fleshed out on = show of weakness.

    America operates on principles of running someone strong who says they will always be strong and that if they ever become weak while in office and they acknowledge this to be replaced, the entire party goes with them like a tug boat latched to a sinking oil tanker. Trump didn’t win because he’s smart or a decent human being. He won because he exudes baseless confidence like a broken nuclear reactor exudes gamma radiation.

    lennybird ,
    @lennybird@lemmy.world avatar

    You know I agree with much of what you say here. All I’ll say is that while there’s uncertainty in the outcome of this route, I’m convinced there is certainty at this point that Joe Biden will lose. Why? Because there is all there is to know about Joe Biden. Call it media saturation; diminishing returns… There is fundamentally nothing Joe Biden can do or say that people don’t already know and now their minds are pretty much made up. The desperation-play of even asking for that debate shows the Biden campaign knows how bad of a position they’re in… And it of course backfired tremendously.

    So at this point, I view it as uncertainty versus a known loss.

    And in that respect, I’m looking at this alternate path as appealing to those lizard-brain American Idol-watching popularity-contest voters. If we could distill election cycles down to a handful of things, chief among them would be “People Vote for the more interesting candidate” and “People vote for the fresher face” – Within the backdrop of age being a huge issue for >70% of American voters when polled, that rings even more truthful now.

    So personally, I say we take the chance.

    Aradina ,
    @Aradina@lemmy.ml avatar

    Okay enjoy drowning I guess.

    TokenBoomer ,
    Maggoty ,

    Don’t look up!

    Skydancer ,

    I see the down votes, but I took this as a Wag the Dog reference. They’re pointing out just how terrible an idea it is for Biden and the democrats to keep trying to sleepwalk through this election while Trump and the republicans pull out all the rhetorical stops.

    ryathal ,

    It’s not too late now, but it’s absolutely too late in October when Biden needs to appear multiple times per day and across about 5 states. If he can’t do that, then he should step down now.

    RustyShackleford ,
    @RustyShackleford@programming.dev avatar

    quit while there they’re ahead

    Hugh_Jeggs ,

    if these people could just get it through there their heads to quit while there they’re ahead

    Fuck me that’s just fucking laziness innit?

    Seasm0ke ,

    Dont worry the DNC will find a way to blame Bernie for it

    ShepherdPie ,

    And lemmings and redditors will blame progressives for it.

    goferking0 ,

    it wouldn’t be an issue if people didn’t keep saying it

    Which is just like ignoring/not testing for covid and calling it over

    Omegamanthethird ,
    @Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world avatar

    I don’t blame people for wanting to distance from the topic. The problem with Biden isn’t his ability to lead and govern. It’s his image. Talking about it directly hurts his image. BUT it’s still a discussion that needs to be had.

    It would be like Covid if talking about Covid also made it worse.

    PsychedSy ,

    I’m going to blame the people that have been trying to gaslight everyone into thinking that Biden was fine.

    Omegamanthethird ,
    @Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world avatar

    He was fine. He has never sounded like this before. Just look at the State of the Union for what people were expecting.

    This was him being unprepared and trying to remember statistics from 3 and a half years of accomplishments, with a cold, while running a country, while being 81. It reminded me of some bad interviews I’ve been in, honestly.

    PsychedSy ,

    Bullshit homie, he sounds like this all the time, it’s just progressing faster. They made up a new term to cover it up a few weeks ago and then grampa ran off in his bathrobe and CNN had to call some silver alerts.

    For all the people that talked about how horrible cnn has been to Biden, they were cutting him off to help him. Look back on his ‘gaffes’. They’ve been bad for a long time.

    Omegamanthethird ,
    @Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world avatar

    I literally don’t know what you’re talking about with bathrobes and silver alerts. What are you smoking?

    PsychedSy ,

    Never work or live near an old folk’s home?

    Omegamanthethird ,
    @Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world avatar

    I don’t know what YOU are talking about with silver alerts. Or are you just bringing up irrelevant topics. Are you going to talk about burgers next?

    PsychedSy ,

    Explained it to another dude in the same thread.

    I’m sure I could find a hamburder joke with Trump on the stage.

    boatswain ,

    I live 4 blocks from an old folks’ home and have no idea what you’re talking about.

    PsychedSy ,

    Fair enough. Bathrobe is the old trope of elderly people wandering around in, well, fuzzy slippers and a bathrobe.

    A silver alert is an Amber Alert for old people.

    I was referring to Biden with the first and CNN helping him when he got lost with the second.

    Cocodapuf , (edited )

    But we’re already past the primary period… Are we suggesting having a quick primary anyway? Who should we put in his place? I haven’t heard a single suggestion for who else to elect. Are we saying Harris should step in? Who should she run with?

    Maggoty ,

    Newsom; Whitmer; Pritzker; Buttigieg; Shapiro; Khanna; Klobuchar; Walz; Booker.

    I even saw someone mention Wes Moore and I was reminded that he’s a pretty good moderate governor of Maryland now instead of “only” a West Point graduate and author.

    Cocodapuf ,

    Well, half of those were people who ran against Biden, so that makes sense.

    I remember being impressed with Klobuchar, and incredibly impressed with Buttigieg (though sadly he’d lose a lot of the religious vote, sigh). I wish I liked Booker more… But yeah there are some acceptable options there, that’s a relief.

    So yeah, lightning primary?

    tamal3 ,

    No mention anywhere of Warren… Did she fail too hard in the primaries?

    Gosh I’d love to see her debate Trump. He would never agree to it though, as she’d rip him to logical pieces.

    rwhitisissle ,

    Warren is a woman and economically progressive and America hates people who are either of those things, let alone both.

    Maggoty ,

    No, in an election where age would be a larger issue than it already is I’m assuming anyone who would hit 80 in office is a non starter.

    We need to be training up some younglings.

    tamal3 ,

    Wow, you’re right, I didn’t realize she was that old.

    ZombiFrancis ,

    Pritzker is the only name on there with the chops for it. Maybe Walz, but he is DFL so I can’t see the DNC even looking at him.

    rwhitisissle ,

    It’s like RBG all over again, if these people could just get it through there heads to quit while there ahead they could preserve a decent legacy, instead of tarnishing it by leading the way to a regressive order that overturns everything they’ve done.

    This is one of the core problems of the Democrats: hubris. When Obama had a majority in the House and Senate, he could have easily pushed through a Supreme Court appointee to replace RBG. But she wouldn’t go. Because in her mind, there was no one qualified to fill her shoes. She was convinced that she was the GOAT and that to voluntarily step down when it was safe to do so would be an insult. This is coupled with the fact that Democrats were absolutely, completely certain that they would win every election for the presidency after Obama without trying and that the “coalition of the ascendant” would easily put Hillary into the White House, and then she could be the first female president in US history and have an easy PR win by replacing an aging female supreme court justice.

    I’m willing to bet we have the the same problem here, but in one person: Biden probably thinks the Democrats could never field anyone for president better than him and that his victory is a lock without any real effort to campaign for it again.

    Fun fact: the last time anything like this happened it was with Grover Cleveland. Cleveland was the 22nd president of the United States who lost his re-election bid the first time around, and then got re-elected to be the 24th president of the United States. We are officially in the second Gilded Age.

    notannpc , in Kyle Rittenhouse's family plead for money as they face eviction

    But who actually cares? Stop talking about this useless waste of life.

    afraid_of_zombies ,

    I care because I noticed that all the people defending him won’t talk about what happened afterwards meanwhile they never stop reminding us that the men he murdered had criminal records.

    It is inconsistent. If they can bring up the past I can bring up the future.

    Woht24 ,

    You should all just shut the fuck up and move on with your lives.

    afraid_of_zombies ,

    When you bring back to life those two people he murdered I will.

    el_abuelo ,

    And didn’t he maim someone? Took the life that person could have had.

    Woht24 ,

    Nothing will bring them back, certainly not your whinging.

    afraid_of_zombies ,

    In that case I won’t stop mentioning it. You know my terms.

    Woht24 ,

    Lol

    mortemtyrannis ,

    What happened afterwards? I’m OOTL

    JackbyDev ,

    This article

    lolcatnip ,

    I’m really enjoying the schadenfreude.

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