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TunaCowboy , in Donald Trump apparently shot, 2 confirmed dead at rally - as former president rushed off stage

TMZ has reported that he was struck by glass from the teleprompter and not directly shot/grazed: tmz.com/…/donald-trump-appear-shot-pennsylvania-r…

III ,

Teleprompter had Project 2025 on it… shooter made a call.

kent_eh ,

Several videos from multiple angles show the teleprompters being intact after Trump was on the ground.

TunaCowboy , in Trump ‘Fine’ After Being Shot at Pennsylvania Campaign Rally

TMZ has reported that he was struck by glass from the teleprompter and not directly shot/grazed: tmz.com/…/donald-trump-appear-shot-pennsylvania-r…

Zipitydew ,

Wait he bothers with teleprompters for these rambling sessions?

UristMcHolland ,

Gotta make sure he hits all of Putins his talking points.

demizerone , in Bernie Sanders urges Dems to 'stop the bickering' and back Biden

Kamala - Bernie. Let it happen you fucks!

Breezy ,

No, biden then bernie. Its the only way bernie would be president

ThomasCrooksIsHero ,

As much as it pains me, Bernie is too old. He’s been my primary for years, but we need some sub 65 contenders.

ignirtoq , in It’s Too Hot to Fly Helicopters and That’s Killing People

People need to start changing their behavior about this heat. I know this sounds like victim blaming. I know people shouldn't have to change their behavior because we saw global warning coming for 30 years and should have prevented this from happening. But it's happening. You can't go into Death Valley in the summer anymore. You just can't. Please don't put yourself in this position.

It's a tragedy that this death happened. We absolutely need to adapt our emergency services to this heat to try to prevent something like this from happening again. But we also need to change our behaviors so we don't end up in that position in the first place.

Duamerthrax ,

I know people shouldn’t have to change their behavior

The whole reason we’re in this situation is because we refuse to change our behavior.

ignirtoq ,

No, we're in this position because of a failure of leadership. Leaders can unite people behind doing things they don't want to do. It's how rationing was tolerated for years in WWII. But we have an entire political party built around telling people what they want to hear while working against their interests for the wealthy's short term gains. We could have conquered this from the top-down with a good plan and charismatic leaders supporting it.

Samvega ,

Leaders can unite people behind doing things

It seems to me that people want to make the world worse, because that’s what people are doing.

Duamerthrax ,

Except we wont elect leadership that will do something. The electorate has been brainwashed by decades of advertisements that have convinced them that they deserve the very best of everything. Any possible leader that would push for a strong solution to climate change wouldn’t get the votes and they wouldn’t get those corporate “campaign contributions”.

We have two entire political parties built around telling people what they want to hear.

Moneo ,

Even mild solutions get shouted down. In Canada we have a carbon tax that mostly ends up getting returned to Canadians in the form of a rebate. Reportedly 80% of Canadians receive more from the rebate than they spend on the tax.

The conservative party have managed to politicize the tax and seem poised to win the next election, with “scrap the tax” being a big part of their platform. We have a province literally going rogue and refusing to pay the tax, causing our tax agency to garnish them essentially.

Shit is fucking wild. All over a marginal tax that benefits poor people and punishes the heaviest polluters. People are so fucking stupid and selfish it drives me fucking nuts.

Takashiro ,

“We” is incorrect, it is mostly the rich refusing and sabotaging change,

captainlezbian ,

It’s the global 1% not just the ultra rich

SkunkWorkz ,

Exactly, a middle class American has an enormous carbon foot print compared to a middle class person in the rest of the world.

Duamerthrax ,

This is cope. I know too many people who roleplay as environmentalists, but are fully engaged in consumerism. Friends who look at me funny when I insist that we can have the same conversations over discord that we can when I drive an hour to to see them or who think that Biden’s Green Deal will be enough. My primary concern for the past 30 years, more time then I’ve been an adult, has been to reduce my co2 output or make sure that what co2 I do output has been productive. There’s a huge disconnect between myself and my supposedly like minded friends that can only be explained my a deep unwillingness to be put in any sort of discomfort. So they cope by telling themselves that they deserve this vacation that requires air travel or ignore the mountain of waste that the average movie production produces or that plastic recycling works and you can drink your Pepsi™ if you just put the bottle in the recycling.

If the rich are responsible for all of our problems, we’re responsible for letting them be rich.

Poem_for_your_sprog ,

Why bother when it’s far too late and nothing is going to change?

Duamerthrax ,

Funny how it went from not being real to being far too late. Almost like there’s always a “reason” not to do anything.

Poem_for_your_sprog ,

What are you going to do about it?

Duamerthrax ,

I’m saying your being manipulated into inaction.

Poem_for_your_sprog ,

We’re locked in for between 4-10C of warming at this point, with the highest probability being ~6C. Even 4 is catastrophic for global food production.

Evil_Shrubbery ,

And behaviour includes food, agriculture, luxuries (like hobbies), etc.

But not gamers, we are doing all the right things already.

Killer57 ,

Man, it’s almost like it’s called Death Valley for a reason or something

Psythik ,

Yeah but judging by the success of Liquid Death water, there is a certain group of people who are attracted to things with morbid names.

ChickenLadyLovesLife ,

You can still ride safely in Mild Bummer Valley.

KillingTimeItself ,

I know people shouldn’t have to change their behavior because we saw global warning coming for 30 years and should have prevented this from happening.

no we quite literally do, if we want global warming to not kill our asses faster than our lack of intelligence in a fleeting moment where it mattered, we absolutely do need to change our behaviors.

charade_you_are , in Gunshots reportedly fired at Donald Trump rally - as former president rushed off stage

Better luck… errr, I mean thoughts and prayers

Not_mikey , in Gunshots reportedly fired at Donald Trump rally - as former president rushed off stage

Please let the shooter be a white dude. If he is any minority group they’re gonna be the first to get the supreme Court treatment when he takes power, which seems inevitable now.

Stovetop ,

It appears to have been a white dude. He was also wearing a T-shirt from some YouTube channel about guns apparently. That’s all I’ve heard so far.

Edit: someone on Twitter has pictures of the suspected shooter

Lettuceeatlettuce ,
@Lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.ml avatar

Oh geez, if that’s him, he got that Habsburg jaw hella.

Frozengyro ,

The YouTube channel is not political for what it’s worth (imho, I’ve watched an occasional video from time to time the last 6+ years or so). Started as a veterinarian who shot weird shit out of a shotgun, and now makes videos doing weird stuff with guns at his range or shoots weird/unique guns.

Duke_Nukem_1990 ,

Can you post the pictures here so we don’t have to go to that cesspool?

Stovetop ,

I probably should have, looks like Elon “Free Speech” Musk must’ve purged the post from the site as I can’t get it to load this morning. Apologies for the omission.

douglasg14b ,
@douglasg14b@lemmy.world avatar

Doesn’t matter if your first second or 5th.

You’re going to get the camp treatment anyways.

We don’t learn from history.

First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.

Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

—Martin Niemöller

VieuxQueb ,
@VieuxQueb@lemmy.ca avatar

Rhe article has been updated, it appears he was a registered Republican.

HauntedCupcake ,

I hate that we even have to hope this. Everything is so fucked

ShittyBeatlesFCPres , in Trump rally: Witness says he saw gunman minutes before shots fired

I’m sorry that guy was at a shooting but a visor with Trump 20204 might be the most loser-coded thing I’ve ever seen. If you hold that visor up to your ear like a seashell, you can hear someone complaining about a family court judge ruling against him after he represented himself.

Xanthobilly ,

Allow me to blow your mind. That’s not his real hair, it’s a hat that looks like a visor + Trump’s rug. Watch the video and it becomes clear.

DragonTypeWyvern ,

How did it get worse?

Howwww?

vaultdweller013 ,

David Cameron cant find where the bar is given this new low.

afraid_of_zombies ,

In case anyone was wondering where that kid in your class who huffed glue is doing these days.

Camzing ,

I was wondering why they were so worried about his hat. Seemed weird.

Evotech ,

With a beer in hand 👌

ShepherdPie ,

Well where else are you supposed to keep it?

BigMacHole , in Donald Trump speech shooting: Gunshots heard at president’s rally – latest news

So? This happens in Schools all the time?

lennybird ,
@lennybird@lemmy.world avatar

You raise a good point. I am far, far less heartbroken by this than Sandy Hook and Uvalde. Republicans made this all possible.

Redex68 ,

Well this is gonna raise his chances of winning by a large amount

Yawweee877h444 ,

People keep repeating this, but without convincing justification.

All I see is, people who were already energized to solidly vote trump, are now really really solidly already going to really vote for him now. I just don’t see how this will get someone to vote trump, who was either going to vote dem or not vote.

People just say things.

crazyminner , (edited ) in Gunshots reportedly fired at Donald Trump rally - as former president rushed off stage

When I first heard this news I immediately felt sad they missed.

I’m surprised this didn’t happen sooner tbh.

Then when I saw the video I felt angry. Like what do these fucks expect? They’re killing LGBTQ and immigrant kids left and right with their policies. They’re killing workers from heat stroke, they’re killing women who need to have abortions, they’re killing people left and right and I’m angry that they’re at all surprised that we don’t fight back.

I hope the next person doesn’t miss.

cordlesslamp ,

Some of the Nazis Extremes Nationalist attendees might caught in a crossfire or become collateral.

But that’s a sacrifice I’m willing to make.

grue , in It’s Too Hot to Fly Helicopters and That’s Killing People

Six motorcyclists rode into Death Valley National Park on July 6. Only five came out alive. With temperatures reaching 128 degrees Fahrenheit in California, the cyclists…

The shorter word for motorcyclists is “bikers.” “Cyclists” is a term for people that actually pedal.

Raiderkev ,
JoMiran , in Trump rally: Witness says he saw gunman minutes before shots fired
@JoMiran@lemmy.ml avatar

If true, a lot of heads are going to roll. That’s a shocking lapse in security.

TransplantedSconie ,

Dude is notorious for not paying people. Are we really that shocked security was a little loose?

JoMiran ,
@JoMiran@lemmy.ml avatar

By security I meant Secret Service. I believe ex-presidents get a secret service detail.

khannie ,
@khannie@lemmy.world avatar

They do and I believe presidential candidates since RFK’s assassination.

TransplantedSconie ,

True, but security around the venue is paid by the RNC and his campaign. They have been known to stiff the bill.

jj4211 ,

Thing is he doesn’t have to pay anything for security, secret service is paid by the government.

TransplantedSconie ,

He does pay for the security around the venue. At least the RNC does and by extension, him.

Soltros , in MEGA THREAD - Trump shot but safe, 2 others killed at PA rally

What peeves me is that the right are all clutching their pearls about anyone who says anything other than blind Trump sympathy. Don’t get me wrong, political violence is wrong. But, remember this:

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/00272d4b-7e6c-4a9e-b788-88ec2d8882a9.jpeg

When Paul Pelosi got his face bashed in with a hammer, the right made fun of it. Mocked him. Idk, man.

kescusay ,
@kescusay@lemmy.world avatar

That shit was amazingly disgusting. And yeah, Trump gets no sympathy from me. But I won’t call for his death, either. I want him to live a very long time. In prison.

HappycamperNZ ,

What about half way.

Permanent disability, less ability to look after himself, a lifetime in pain.

snooggums ,
@snooggums@midwest.social avatar

I’d be happy with aggressive pancreatic cancer, because it will feel like a lifetime for him and shut him up faster.

ZILtoid1991 ,

There are people on the right, that would call you out on even that. They’re gaslighting anyone left of Mussolini on what are the rules they should be following.

snooggums ,
@snooggums@midwest.social avatar

He can still incite violence and rally his base from prison.

kescusay ,
@kescusay@lemmy.world avatar

Not if he can’t get on video. The man’s bizarre hold on his base is all about his verbal delivery. If he has to rely on written messages, he can’t verbally circumvent the higher brain function in his victims and they’re more likely to actually become aware that his messages are gibberish.

ByteOnBikes ,

This is what is so frustrating.

Conservatives call for violence; Call for rising up; Literally calling themselves DOMESTIC TERRORISTS: Absolutely a nothing burger. Just a bunch of locker room talk. Relax that’s normal conservative speech.

Liberals blinking aggressively: WHY ARENT YOU MORE TOLERANT BE BETTER.

BonesOfTheMoon ,

Omigod I didn’t know about this.

SeaJ ,

Have we considered that the gunman might be a jilted lover? /s

Delusional ,

Maybe it was the father of one of the children trump raped.

CasualPenguin ,

Or how about when he said that if he lost to Clinton:

“If she gets to pick her judges, nothing you can do, folks. Although the Second Amendment people — maybe there is, I don’t know.”

RememberTheApollo_ , in Gunshots reportedly fired at Donald Trump rally - as former president rushed off stage

Anyone got insights to a right-wing forum and what they’re saying? Blaming the libs? Advocating for violence? What conspiracies are they putting together?

return2ozma OP ,
@return2ozma@lemmy.world avatar

Right wingers on Twitter are saying libs “need to pay”, Biden did it, even… “god saved Trump” - Marco Rubio

suction ,

Biden couldn’t have done it, he’s busy carpet bombing children in Gaza.

slickgoat ,

I thought that the Supremes said that Presidents were immune?

suction ,

Yes, I was just telling you that Biden has an Alibi because he was personally flying an Israeli plane and pushed the “release carpet bomb” button at the time.

drunkpostdisaster ,

My mind is that at least its happening while bidden is still president.

Godric ,

Considering this left wing forum’s opinion seems to be trending “dang they missed”, the opposite reaction is probably not noble.

Flax_vert ,

Tbf I think it’s the leftists putting the conspiracies about it being staged this time

RememberTheApollo_ , (edited )

There’s no shortage of conspiracy makers here. It’s irritating as heck.

Twelve20two ,

I’ve seen one meme so far from a conservative claiming that the left is (as usual) cannibalizing itself by arguing between “why’d he missed” and “it was faked”

I’m not doubting that people on the left are claiming it’s fake, but I definitely haven’t seen it nearly as much as people expressing disappointment that the shot missed

Flax_vert ,

I’ve seen so many people on here claiming it was faked lol.

Twelve20two ,

I don’t doubt it

Kiwi_fella ,

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/1dece79c-394e-4e7f-8453-0d368f955357.jpeg

This is from Nigel Farage, a UK right wing politician - blaming the liberals and their rhetoric for encouraging it to happen.

PoliticalAgitator ,

Surely they fully support the shooter right? After all, pro-gun people have been telling us for decades that dogshit gun laws are needed so that if any politician becomes a tyrannical, they can be executed by some random civilian.

So I guess the shooter was just a responsible gun owner who thought Trump was a tyrant. They’ve never actually articulated what a tyrant was or at what point they should be killed, so I guess it was just up to whatever some unhinged gun owner thought.

tate , in Donald Trump rally shooting being probed as assassination attempt: AP sources
@tate@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Title: “AP sources”

link: “something else - not AP.”

me: “why?”

paddirn , in Dr. Ruth Westheimer, America’s diminutive and pioneering sex therapist, dies at 96

We almost had a holy trinity of celebrity deaths today.

jj4211 ,

Shannon Doherty died yesterday too

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