I have to disagree - these people are empowered because they were immune to the consequences of their actions. This would show you’re not immune, that your choices and actions have consequences from those you are making suffer, and that the world doesn’t exist in your ivory tower or group think.
The next fascist leader would go in knowing exactly what happened to the predecessor, exactly what the people think, and that they won’t take your actions lying down.
You’re delusional if you think a killed Trump would have been good. He’d get replaced by a more evil and intelligent republican which would then definitely win the election.
After thinking about this…offing him will do nothing to stop the creep of facism. You have an entire party now aligned with the idealogices that the 3rd Reich had. And it’s the entire party. MAGA killed the GOP after they got rid of Cheney. You cut one head off and 3 more will pop up identical to him…with vindication. Its going to be a yearly struggle and I fear we won’t be able to hold the line forever
I’m not advocating for it. But Trump has, repeatedly. Again and again. I have no fucks to give and I do not find it gross. He advocated for Hillary to be assassinated, wanted to shoot protesters, and still considers Ashli Babbitt a hero.
I don’t find it gross when people want pedophiles to get the death penalty, even if I disagree with the government having that sort of power. I’m not going to condemn people who are happy with the shooter, even though I don’t support the actions.
We don’t know why the shooter tried to shoot Trump. We also know that this will role up his base. And the shooter failed at what he was trying to do.
That doesn’t sound like a hero.
Dude was probably messed up in the head. If we call this attempted assassin a hero, that might inspire copycat crimes of people trying to shoot public figures they disagree with. I know there’s that second amendment and all, but is that really how you want the country to function?
He wasted his life and didn’t even succeed in his goal, or did he? I know sounds nuts but by the looks this attempt on Trump life has helped him. Look at that goddamm photo op. Bullshit.
Westheimer joined the Haganah Jewish Zionist underground paramilitary organization (later, the Israel Defense Forces) in Jerusalem.[26][27][25][28] Because of her diminutive height of 4 feet 7 inches (140 cm), she was trained as a scout and sniper.[24][28][29] Of this experience, she said, “I never killed anybody, but I know how to throw hand grenades and shoot.”[30] She became an ace sniper, and learned to assemble a rifle in the dark.[24][14] When she was 90 years old, she demonstrated that she was still able to put together a Sten gun with her eyes closed.[31]
All the mods are going to have a fun time justifying removing all the calls for killing Trump after allowing all the “let’s do guillotines” comments since forever.
To those wishing the shooter had better aim - imagine what that might unleash from the right? They already did Jan 6. Just think about what they’d feel justified in doing if someone killed Trump.
To others on the fence - stop to think for a moment that those wishing for his death might be well aware of the above and in calling for the death of Trump, they know exactly what the response from the right would be and that may be their point in making such comments.
I mentioned NATO so I have to include a quote below I agree with below, hahaha:
NATO is a terrorist organization.
BUENOS AIRES, Argentina (AP) — Argentina designated Hamas a terrorist organization Friday and ordered a freeze on the financial assets of the Palestinian group, a largely symbolic move as President Javier Milei seeks to align Argentina strongly with the U.S. and Israel.
The move comes just days before the 30th anniversary of one of those attacks, the 1994 bombing of a Jewish community center in Buenos Aires. It killed 85 people and wounded hundreds more in the worst such attack in Argentina’s modern history.
The other attack on the Israeli Embassy in Buenos Aires, in 1992, killed more than 20 people. Argentina’s judiciary has accused members of Lebanon’s Iran-backed Hezbollah militant group of carrying out the two attacks.
The U.S., European Union and several other countries long put a terrorist designation on Hamas, which ruled the Gaza Strip before its current war with Israel.
For his first state visit as president earlier this year, Milei flew to Jerusalem in a show of support for the Israeli government and promised to move his nation’s embassy to the contested capital — drawing praise from Netanyahu and ire from Hamas.
How do you imagine things getting better by killing yourself?
The wordl might be in a bad place But most importantly your life seems to be in a bad place. You can start to fix that by removing bad things from your life, like politics or the news.
some liberals: “Trump will literally institute a dictatorship and end American democracy”
the same liberals: “wait no stop don’t actually act like that’s true”
Please get an internally consistent worldview. If half the rhetoric you see on reddit/r/politics (or here) is genuine then this is completely rational.
This is just the paradox of tolerance with higher than usual stakes. If you believe he is an existential threat to American democracy and that American democracy is worth protecting with violence then you should be in favor of this.
If people actually believe he is going to end democracy but the only legitimate resistance is voting harder then we deserve to lose it.
So I’ve got this dog… She’s a 2 year old rescue. She was supposed to be someone else’s, but she was so traumatized by something that they couldn’t train her, couldn’t even pet her, and eventually, one thing led to another and we ended up with her. Took about 2 months before anyone in the house could even pet her, but now she’s super lovey to everyone who lives in my house. She is “growling and barking when someone walks past the house on the other side of the street” levels of protective, though, and it’s disruptive to our lives. It would be easy to just kick her or yell at her or get a shock collar and solve the problem that way, but I haven’t done that because I’ve spent a lot of time rehabilitating rescue dogs and I know that abusing her will male her stop barking but at the cost of her personality. If our house becomes another abusive situation, she’ll regress and, rightly, start being scared of people again… maybe forever this time. Instead, I got a sonic egg that distracts her when she barks, and I’ll gently pet her and talk softly to her when she’s spazzing out. She is slowly getting better. Some days, it’s still frustrating and disruptive, but the way i solve the problem is important to my desired outcomes. I want a dog that loves and trusts me and my family and still wants to protect us but doesn’t feel like we need protection from everyone who walks by.
In the same way, and as you said, with much higher stakes, I want Trump to lose , and I want the US to remain (and even improve) our democracy. Political assassination is incompatible with functional democracy. I know the US has a lot of problems with our democracy, but I’m not ready to “kick my dog” yet. I still want to save it. That does NOT mean I won’t put the dog down if she bites one of my kids, but I kick her, then she bites… that’s on me.
There is absolutely a consistent worldview that believes Trump is awful but that killing him is wrong. All you need is a Kantian or similar set of morals that doesn’t allow for murder as a preventative measure.
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