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PepperoniNipple , in Gunshots reportedly fired at Donald Trump rally - as former president rushed off stage

This guy is a hero for trying. We need more people like him, not be scared. We need to celebrate people like this so that we finally get inspired to do what we have been lacking for decades: having a pair of balls to play the same game republicans play

Imgonnatrythis ,

You have it all wrong. And unless you are going to try and succeed next you are just talking from a place of ignorance and impotence.

frontporchtreat , (edited ) in Richard Simmons Dead at 76

I can’t believe Richard Simmons’ final act was to try and get trump once and for all.

werefreeatlast ,

Fuck god… That asshole takes Richard Simmons and leaves us Trumpfus? WTF god? !!! What the fuck are you doing???

Bonesy91 , in Gunshots reportedly fired at Donald Trump rally - as former president rushed off stage

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  • Manmoth ,

    Shame he missed

    Let me guess. To “save our democracy” right?

    Sweetpeaches69 ,

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  • Manmoth ,

    You don’t understand how democracy works.

    Duke_Nukem_1990 ,

    Democracy works by letting fashists claim power, clearly. You haven’t read about the paeadoxon of tolerance, have you?

    Manmoth ,

    Democracy works by letting the people choose their leaders through voting. Not by murdering candidates before the people can exercise their right to vote.

    werefreeatlast , in Donald Trump speech shooting: Gunshots heard at president’s rally – latest news

    This is nothing, check out what putin did!

    feddit.org/post/698871

    I’m sorry, I mean Biden!

    JasonDJ , in Gunshots reportedly fired at Donald Trump rally - as former president rushed off stage

    Worst. Time traveler. Ever.

    jballs ,
    @jballs@sh.itjust.works avatar

    Yeah, that dude really fucked up the future timeline.

    Emerald , in Restrictions on Donald Trump's Facebook and Instagram lifted

    Oh wow what terrible timing

    Wilzax , in Trump rally: Witness says he saw gunman minutes before shots fired

    This guy has no idea what the fuck he’s talking about. Any armed security worth their salt would have snipers on roofs at large gatherings. I see them at sporting events, why not at a rally?

    The man with a rifle he saw was almost certainly working with Trump’s security detail, and if not, he would have been spotted not long after this guy saw him, and taken out before he could have taken a shot.

    teft OP ,
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    There’s video footage of the shooter dead on a roof.

    Wilzax ,

    I admit I was wrong.

    And I think the secret service detail assigned to Trump might be terrible at their job.

    retrospectology ,
    @retrospectology@lemmy.world avatar

    It may simply be that former presidents don’t get the same security resources as an actual president.

    Plus it’s been reported that he treats his security staff like trash, so it might be difficult to find people willing to put themselves in harms way for him.

    Wilzax ,

    I think you’re probably right on both counts. I know I certainly wouldn’t put my life on the line for a convicted felon, alleged rapist, known adulterer, racist, liar, and threat to democracy if he was also being a dick to me personally

    ShadowRam ,

    Where?

    teft OP ,
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    I saw it in the mega thread but there is a still picture of his body in one of the comments in this post.

    tal ,
    @tal@lemmy.today avatar

    Any armed security worth their salt would have snipers on roofs at large gatherings.

    They did have them here; there are photos of them. The assassin was also apparently on another roof; I linked to what is a purported picture of his body on the roof off Reddit in my comment above.

    PepperoniNipple , in Donald Trump rally shooting being probed as assassination attempt: AP sources

    We need more patriotic heroes like the shooter. Corrupt politicians would be afraid of society and the consequences of being evil and doing a bad job, as it should be

    dvoraqs ,

    I’m not ready to encourage this because anybody can get pissed off for any reason. There is very little that a politician does that makes everybody happy.

    morphballganon ,

    Forget about pleasing everybody. How about having policies that please >50% of people? With no gerrymandering or electoral college

    TallonMetroid ,
    @TallonMetroid@lemmy.world avatar

    I’m still not convinced this was a genuine attempt on his life and not a false flag op by crisis actors. Because that’s exactly the sort of nonsense I expect from fascist ilk.

    tal , (edited )
    @tal@lemmy.today avatar

    Trump took a bullet to the ear. He was a fraction of an inch away from the thing doing his skull. Nobody is going to intentionally have someone shoot their ear.

    Ioughttamow ,

    The special circumstances wing of the heritage foundation needed him to be a hero. His survival is a secondary concern

    TunaCowboy ,

    Not arguing for or against, but TMZ has reported that he was struck by glass from the teleprompter and not directly shot/grazed: tmz.com/…/donald-trump-appear-shot-pennsylvania-r…

    tal ,
    @tal@lemmy.today avatar

    Hmm.

    4:21 PM PT – A SOURCE WHO HAS SPOKEN WITH A MEMBER OF THE SECRET SERVICE TELL TMZ, TRUMP WAS NOT HIT BY A BULLET. RATHER, A BULLET HIT HIS TELEPROMPTER AND THE GLASS STRUCK HIM BY THE EAR.

    kagis

    According to CBS, Trump apparently posted that his ear was hit by a bullet, but I suppose that he might also not have known what hit him:

    cbsnews.com/…/trump-says-shots-pierced-injured-ea…

    The presumptive Republican nominee said he heard “a whizzing sound, shots, and immediately felt the bullet ripping through the skin.” It’s not yet clear whether Trump was hit by a bullet or shrapnel, but blood was strewn across his ear and face as Secret Service agents ushered him offstage.

    “I want to thank The United States Secret Service, and all of Law Enforcement, for their rapid response on the shooting that just took place in Butler, Pennsylvania,” Trump wrote on his social media platform, Truth Social. “Most importantly, I want to extend my condolences to the family of the person at the Rally who was killed, and also to the family of another person that was badly injured. It is incredible that such an act can take place in our Country. Nothing is known at this time about the shooter, who is now dead. I was shot with a bullet that pierced the upper part of my right ear. I knew immediately that something was wrong in that I heard a whizzing sound, shots, and immediately felt the bullet ripping through the skin. Much bleeding took place, so I realized then what was happening. GOD BLESS AMERICA!”

    Back when Reagan was shot, he didn’t even think that he’d been shot, was ticked off at the Secret Service guy who threw him into the car, thought that the guy had broken one of his ribs.

    EDIT: Though Teddy Roosevelt knew:

    en.wikipedia.org/…/Attempted_assassination_of_The…

    Schrank did shoot Roosevelt, but the bullet lodged in Roosevelt’s chest only after hitting both his steel eyeglass case and a 50-page copy of his speech titled “Progressive Cause Greater Than Any Individual”, which he was carrying in his jacket pocket. As onlookers gasped and screamed, Elbert E. Martin, one of Roosevelt’s secretaries and an ex-football player, was the first to react, leaping at Schrank, wrestling him to the ground and seizing his gun.[8] A. O. Girard, a former Rough Rider and bodyguard of the ex-president, and several policemen were upon Schrank at the same moment. Roosevelt stumbled, but straightened himself, and again raised his hat, with a reassuring smile upon his face. His aide, Harry Cochems, asked Roosevelt if he was hit, and Roosevelt simply said assuredly, “He pinked me, Harry.”[9]

    Roosevelt, as an experienced hunter and anatomist, correctly concluded that since he was not coughing blood, the bullet had not reached his lung, and he declined suggestions to go to the hospital immediately. Instead, he delivered his scheduled speech with blood seeping into his shirt.[11][12] He spoke for 50 minutes before completing his speech and accepting medical attention. His opening comments to the gathered crowd were, “Ladies and gentlemen, I don’t know whether you fully understand that I have just been shot, but it takes more than that to kill a Bull Moose.”[13][14][15]

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  • afraid_of_zombies ,

    Trump took a bullet to the ear.

    He did?

    Aurenkin ,

    Ok, a good chunk of people think Biden is corrupt so by your logic they should shoot him too? I hope I don’t have to spell out where this leads and why it’s a terrible idea.

    morphballganon ,

    You’re aware that Turnip is a literal terrorist, yes?

    Aurenkin ,

    Yes which is why I think he should be prosecuted for his crimes. If we go down the road of extra judicially killing anyone who you think is a terrorist then what kind of society do you think that will lead to?

    morphballganon ,

    What kind of a road do you think we’re on right now?

    Imagine no more assassination attempts.

    Trump wins.

    Project 2025 is enacted.

    Jews, Hispanics and LGBTQs are rounded up and thrown in concentration camps.

    The signs are there. Are you going to still be sitting on a high horse right up until the moment it happens? What then, you turn around and stave off the fourth Reich with whoever’s left?

    Will you be happy then?

    Aurenkin ,

    It’s not even about the moral issue, although I think murdering your political opponents is wrong. Just think it through practically. Killing Trump doesn’t stop project 2025. There’s going to be quite a few names on that list if you want to solve this situation through violence.

    You have a process to prevent this from happening right now, the same one that prevented it last time. Ironically this attempt will likely just make things worse assuming there is no retaliatory violence from the other side.

    The whole situation is super fucked up either way. I wish you all the best for your country, it seems like it’s going to be pretty bad for a while at least.

    morphballganon ,

    Thank you for giving your response some thought.

    cAUzapNEAGLb ,

    I think he should be prosecuted for his crimes too, but look around, that’s not what’s happening.

    If the government cannot provide justice, the people will in their own ways.

    I fear the path we’re on as a nation and world, and i don’t see an offramp currently. I cope by preparing for instability, not by denying the current situation. We live in interesting times.

    Omegamanthethird ,
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    I’m not advocating for it specifically because of what you laid out.

    But I assume they would want people to act on evidence, whether that’s in a courtroom or vigilante justice. So their logic would say, no they shouldn’t. But yes, that’s what it would lead to.

    LustyArgonianMana , in MEGA THREAD - Trump shot but safe, 2 others killed at PA rally
    @LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world avatar

    kansascitydefender.com/…/trump-shooting-antifa-co…

    Right-Wing Accounts Launch Mark Violets Antifa Conspiracy in Light of Trump “Assassination Attempt

    Please note this is a DEBUNKED conspiracy per the link above, the shooter’s identity is unknown at this time

    kabe , (edited )
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    Shooter appears to be a white male, aged 20s or early 30s by the look of it. The t-shirt he was wearing is allegedly marked with branding for a firearms-related YouTube channel.

    x.com/Shadi_Alkasim/status/1812315218258833590

    Edit: Possible suspects are either Maxwell Yearick, previously arrested while demonstrating against Trump in Pittsburgh on a previous occasion, or a Thomas Matthew Crooks, according to the NY Post.

    Hasn’t been officially ID’d yet though, so still speculation.

    NotAnotherLemmyUser , (edited )

    Looks like Thomas Matthews Crooks is not the right guy

    Edit 2: but there are a lot of images/videos of the wrong guy going around.

    He posted a video saying “you’ve got the wrong guy” but looks like he’s been talking to lawyers and decided to make his whole account private now".

    youtube.com/shorts/DM9SVbojbl4

    https://x.com/ValorMG/status/1812357749784936512

    Edit: Maybe? It could be that the name is correct, but the guy you see in the video is definitely not him.

    kabe ,
    @kabe@lemmy.world avatar

    All the major outlets are reporting that the FBI confirms it’s him now. Very confusing, all round.

    archive.is/…/fbi-identifies-thomas-matthew-crooks…

    archive.is/20240714055509/https://…/74396853007/

    NotAnotherLemmyUser ,

    I see a lot of outlets claiming that the FBI identified him, but I don’t see any actual statements from the FBI themselves (beyond a statement asking for more information from the public). Skimming through the various articles with his name and I can’t find any links to an actual source either. I might have missed a video somewhere.

    It could be that the name is correct, and this guy was baiting journalists into showing his picture and lying about his real name.

    Wrench ,

    To be fair, I would label anyone trying to kill Hitler as an anti fascist. Unless it’s someone trying to take over in his place, at least.

    SeaJ ,

    Many of the people trying to kill Hitler were fellow fascists.

    PepperoniNipple , in Trump rally: Witness says he saw gunman minutes before shots fired

    We need more patriotic heroes like the shooter. Corrupt politicians would fear society as it should be, not the other way around.

    I just hope the gun and the bullets are okay, getting covered in that filfthy blood of theirs must be disguting. And I remember the top comment in Twitter being “is the hammer alright?” when they did the same to Paul Pelosi and then tried to twist it by saying the attacker was gay, so that more hate crimes happen towards gay people

    Evil fucks like that deserve this back and more, way more. If you feel sympathy for trump or their supporters at this moment, you’re being an idiot.

    hopesdead , in Donald Trump rally shooting being probed as assassination attempt: AP sources
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    Will this get the GOP to finally support gun bans?

    catloaf ,

    Nope. Remember when someone shot up a congressional softball game and nothing happened?

    something_random_tho ,

    Remember when Jan 6 nutters stormed the Capitol with guns and zip ties and nothing happened to the person inciting all of it?

    Makhno ,

    What people had guns on Capitol grounds? Only guns I know of were the ones found a good distance away…

    III ,

    There were absolutely guns.

    www.statesman.com/story/news/…/7621149001/

    They did also find a stockpile of guns a distance away. Both are true.

    Dudewitbow ,

    Many GOP events already ban guns at the events, they just dont ban it outside them

    floofloof OP ,

    No, it will get them to support preemptively shooting those in the out-group.

    umbrella , in Gunshots reportedly fired at Donald Trump rally - as former president rushed off stage
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    ONE JOB. dude had ONE job.

    meowoem ,

    400 ft shot. That’s pretty close.

    Sgt_choke_n_stroke , in Trump ‘Fine’ After Being Shot at Pennsylvania Campaign Rally

    There’s no high road to take with this guy. He should get over it

    SeattleRain , (edited ) in Gunshots reportedly fired at Donald Trump rally - as former president rushed off stage

    I don’t think this is will actually make Trump a martyr. The right has been minimizing their own violence so much, (Jan 6th, The attack on Pelosi, the Michigan state reps they sent death threats to, the Uvaldi School Massacre, the countless people Nazis stab or shoot every year) that they aren’t going to easily be able to turn the public perception to believing that “THIS IS BEYOND THE PALE”.

    Even on 4chan’s Nazi channel /pol/ a plurality of people are saying it’s fake.

    meowoem ,

    He has to die to be a martyr. That darn wind.

    hornedfiend ,

    You are seriously overestimating some people. This will gain him more popularity, especially since he will be milking the victim card to oblivion.

    Zeratul , in Gunshots reportedly fired at Donald Trump rally - as former president rushed off stage

    Lol news and popular feeds on reddit are devoid of any coverage of this.

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