I’m not a great shot and I can easily shoot a 2" grouping at 600 ft. I’ve hit moving deer in the woods at around 500 ft. It’s not a hard shot if you know what you’re doing.
If he had aimed center mass, like a competent shooter would, Trump would probably be dead.
I’m so over politics in America. This shit is terrifying. People trying to overthrow elections, seniors that are too old to lead, voter suppression, people stuck in disinformation bubbles, and now assassins. Meanwhile, the rich just get richer, and “middle class” life just gets harder and harder.
I have dual citizenship with an EU nation from birth, and this week had made me start to dust off those childhood documents and look into the details of relocating.
Every time I’ve read someone shitting on America, and then they mention something like not being American, if you ask where, the question is always avoided.
All of the Trump rally photos that I have ever seen have an audience behind him. If they did the same here, then any missed shots would go into the audience.
Maybe I’m crazy here but if I saw a dude with a rifle on a roof at a political rally I would 100% assume it was secret service. I don’t see much here that convinces me otherwise
Edit: there is some evidence that he may have been on a roof. It’s hard to get accurate information this soon after an incident so we’ll see in the coming days
Edit: yeah, pretty much confirmed it was the gunman, assuming this guy is talking about the right roof (secret service were on a different roof). I still stand by my original comment, I wouldn’t have thought anything of it if I saw it
And if you saw him getting into position mid speech that wouldn’t strike you as odd? The shooter was seen low crawling into position. Secret Service shooters would be in place from the start not moving mid speech.
If they were in legit gear or a suit, I wouldn’t think it was odd. Any other guy with a rifle would be a red fucking flag because plainclothes USSS have concealed guns and don’t play on roofs.
No. USSS Snipers are all over the place. Some visible most are not. In one of the videos you can clearly see a USSS sniper above stage right. That’s the guy who took out the shooter.
Yeah, I think that that’s been normal for a long time. There are even pictures of the law enforcement on a rooftop at this rally with scoped rifles.
EDIT: One of the top posts on Reddit says that this is the shooter after having been shot. Assuming that is correct, gives an idea as to what he was wearing.
That kind of uncertainty about if the shooter was part of the security detail or not may have been the source of hesitation that let him get shots off before immediately getting shot himself. The speed of the return fire makes it seem like someone was already pointing a gun at him and awaiting confirmation he wasn’t supposed to be there.
Yeah, I’m gonna probably stay undecided on this one. On the one hand, “the libs shot first” is going to sit very well with his cult’s persecution complex, and it’ll be a good tool for whenever he needs an angry mob. On the other hand, it wouldn’t be very surprising that someone really would take a shot at him.
I don’t think a fake assassination attempt makes much sense at all. He’s not losing to the point that he needs to take a big risk. It’s not close enough to the election for one big stunt to have a good chance of influencing the outcome. And it didn’t even happen at a time and place that would maximize the visibility.
The only thing I can think of that could explain this would be the recent trending of project 2025. But even then, if you need a distraction, the convention is next week, there’s plenty of opportunity to shift the narrative there. And hell, if you want to stage an assassination attempt for your own benefit, that’s the venue to do it at.
On the other hand, faking it requires conspirators who can make it happen, all of whom have to be able to keep it quiet. There will be an investigation that he can’t control. The smaller the conspiracy, the harder it is to pull off, but the larger the conspiracy, the harder it is to cover up. And unlike all his existing criminal cases, there would be no connection to his time as president in any way, so the immunity he just got handed by the supreme court wouldn’t apply. And obviously the shooter has to not accidentally kill Trump while he is shooting at him and killing an innocent bystander. Plus, you have to have a shooter willing to die for the cause, or a patsy who can plausibly take his place, which raises so many more questions and carries a whole new set of risks.
By comparison, someone looking at Trump and saying to himself “Well, if no one else is going to do this, I guess I will” is just a lot more plausible.
I would agree with you if it wasn’t for the fact that his ear looks completely intact. Bloody, yes, but no chunk missing. If it was an actual bullet moving at subsonic speed even a graze would leave more than a little blood. Another thing to consider is that there would be WAY more blood than what was shown. Your extremities bleed more than any other part of your body because that’s where all of the blood vessels gather. I know this from the personal experience of splitting my head open on a metal pipe. It took no time for blood to cover one half of my face. If he was actually shot in the ear blood would be gushing. As it stands it looks like someone smeared lipstick on his ear.
Is it possible he just hit his ear on something when he was ducking for cover?
To be clear, I haven’t looked to see if there are videos, or anything, so I’m asking from a place of ignorance, not because I think that’s what happened.
Which i would have an easier time believing than a bullet. If he got a small cut on his ear it would bleed that much, but that is in no way a bullet wound. It doesn’t really matter at the end of the day though because facts don’t matter to fascist MAGA idiots. If it doesn’t back up what they already believe it’s fake news.
Registering R in PA which has closed primaries just means he lived in a red district and wanted to vote in the only primary that matters. He donated to progressive groups.
I bet Trump is perversely happy he got shot. He can be a Real Brave Man, now. How much attention it gets him. How much more clout he believes he will get because he will weasel some political capital out of it. Heaven help us if the shooter was liberal, this man is fine with dog whistling violence and more than a few of his followers are itching to engage in it. It won’t matter one whit how many people have been killed or hurt by right wingers.
On Jan 6 Trump noticed that a lot of the crowd would not pass the magnetic detectors to get in close for his speech. He realized it was because they were armed. “Take the fucking mags away” he said. Because he knew he was going to be up there behind bulletproof glass.
They even managed to get a triumphant picture out of it. The Secret Service is surrounding him, he’s bloody but holding his fist high, and the American flag is perfectly framed in the background. This shit is going to pump his polling numbers. All he has to do is put whatever fake nationalist bullshit he wants over that picture for 30 seconds and it’s an instant ad in battleground states.
It really wouldn’t matter, he’d be a martyr for “the cause” and everyone riding his coattails would be foaming at the mouth to replace him as the figurehead with big Trump posters behind em for the rest of time.
I’m sure the republican party would have another candidate immediately. There were a bunch of other candidates that ran a little bit earlier this year for this election, but got like zero news coverage and dropped out. I know because I looked them up a couple a weeks ago wondering why I never heard of others in passing.
Tulsi, Vivek, RFK, NIki… There are a lot of choices out there and I think the Republicans would most likely do a quick round of debates/votes to get someone in.
…at least they listen to their party base. The DNC fucked over every candidate who wouldn’t fall in line and bow. The base wanted Bernie, and look how that turned out. They don’t gaf what their base wants, they’ll prop up whoever they think they can control.
I was excited at first, then sad. Trump’s death would be the only way american people get justice as he’s clearly above the law. Can’t believe all the news hasn’t called him felon trump, instead calling him president trump, dropping the former.
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