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SnekyLemming , in Big business lobbies against heat protections for workers as US boils

I work in an industry working with other industrial businesses and we’ve seen so many of their employees get heat related injuries this summer. It’s very hard to get companies to view people as humans and not as a disposable asset.

A lot of times these companies won’t increase protections for workers without the government stepping in with laws and regulations.

Asafum ,

I work in an open air factory on Long island. It’s gets over 90°F inside and whatever humidity it is outside is what we have here.

I’ve looked into the laws for factories in NY and the legislation is purposely vague… “all factories are to maintain proper humidity and temperature.” They then never define what proper temp and humidity is… My representatives don’t respond when asked about it.

I’m so happy it’s nice this week so far, last week was brutal…

DM_Me_Boobs OP ,

Holy shit that’s really warm for working inside a factory all day. Thank you for sharing your insight especially since a lot of the news coverage is in places setting temperature records and not places where the heat index is through the roof. I suppose it’s f*kn hot all over this summer.

DM_Me_Boobs OP ,

Yikes that’s rough. Thank you for sharing your real world experiences. Stay cool out there.

Desistance , in After $700 Million U.S. Bailout, Trucking Firm Is Shutting Down
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Gotta be a special kind of incompetent to crumble in a booming economic period.

Buelldozer ,
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Gotta be a special kind of incompetent to crumble in a booming economic period.

Yellow has been horribly mismanaged for at least two decades. They should have died long ago and in any environment but one that’s literally awash with money looking for investment opportunities they would have. For structural reasons IC is drying up so we’re going to see a lot more badly run and unprofitable companies going belly up. This is a trend that’s already started and its just going to pick up speed from here.

MiddleWeigh , in Big business lobbies against heat protections for workers as US boils
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It builds character.

Buelldozer , in After $700 Million U.S. Bailout, Trucking Firm Is Shutting Down
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Here’s a link to CBS News that isn’t paywalled.

Yellow has been a horribly managed mess for at least 25 years. I was involved in LTL logistics back then and we avoided those dunderheads like the plague. It’s a shame that they’re taking $500 MIllion of taxpayer money with them since they can’t repay their loan but that company should have died years ago.

joe , in ‘I’m not wanted’: Florida universities hit by brain drain as academics flee
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Ron DeSantis’s slew of laws attacking teaching of race and gender issues sees state’s colleges struggle to fill faculty posts

As intended.

YoBuckStopsHere OP ,
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Good luck finding right-wing professors, Ron. Alumni of the Florida Universities are going to be really mad when the schools can’t fund football and basketball in the coming years. They already have a recruiting crisis due to Ron’s actions.

joe ,
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It’s a lot like that quote:

If conservatives become convinced that they can not win democratically, they will not abandon conservatism. The will reject democracy.

If conservatives become convinced that an education makes people less conservative, then they will not gaze inward to wonder why that might be, but instead reject education.

ihavenopeopleskills ,
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Education != indoctrination

Shalakushka ,

I’d agree, which is why we shouldn’t be presenting slavery as a circuitous jobs training program, like Ron DeFascist wants to.

joe ,
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Can you articulate the difference to me? I’m curious to see what you come up with.

LrdThndr ,

Yeah, sure, I’ll bite.

Education is teaching kids to think for themselves while giving them the ability to tell fact from bullshit.

Indoctrination is forcing your own ethics, morals, and beliefs onto children who lack the ability to discern fact from bullshit, usually early enough in their development to ensure that the bullshit you’ve forced onto them becomes permanently encoded into their brain structure.

Nobody’s indoctrinating college students. The students are being taught to critically analyze information and are using that critical analysis to realize that the worldview they’ve been spoon-fed is bullshit.

joe ,
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I think some confusion has happened since I made my last comment. I was under the impression that Education != indoctrination was saying that DeSantis wasn’t going after educators, but instead, getting rid of “indoctrination”.

I wholeheartedly agree that the major difference is that education teaches to question your world, and indoctrination tells you to shut up and get in line. What DeSantis is getting rid of is education, and making room for indoctrination.

gravitas_deficiency ,

To wit: This is not education. It’s indoctrination.

spriteblood ,

Education is the act of imparting knowledge, usually with the goal of improving general understanding and critical thinking skills, while indoctrination carries inherent connotations of partisanship - usually about believing a specific doctrine or ideology, even if facts or evidence suggests it to be untrue.

UnderpantsWeevil ,
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At some level, education is about instilling certain ideas and theories within an audience for the purpose of driving some kind of social activity. Whether that activity is academic research or religious proselytization depends on the information being conveyed. But every form of education does require a certain set of axioms be taken at face value.

People tend to lose sight of the fundamental and necessary techniques used in imparting new knowledge while fixating on the relative values that the new knowledge provides when they toss out words like “indoctrination”.

foggy ,

For real?

Dude once they are desperate it’ll be the PTO warriors that become “professors”.

YoBuckStopsHere OP ,
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Professor isn’t a title many on the right can achieve. A Education PhD, published research, and the clout in the education community play a role. The education community rarely produces any right wingers outside of the business related schools.

foggy ,

You do not need a PhD to teach college students.

YoBuckStopsHere OP ,
@YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world avatar

That is a college instructor, not a professor.

foggy ,

You do not need a teaching degree to be a professor.

Most universities are private institutions, and can employ whomever they see fit in whichever positions they seem appropriate. They have a vested interest in employing accredited individuals.

What I am saying is Florida will run out of such individuals at which time, it will become very easy for anyone to become a college professor.

Also, I have been a college professor, and I only have an undergrad. Not in teaching. It was my actual title.

YoBuckStopsHere OP ,
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Instructor and professor are not the same thing. Professor requires a PhD in the subject being taught.

foggy ,

… I just explained to you that that is not the case.

Your simply disagreeing doesn’t do anything for your argument. I have provided sources, and am a former professor who does not meet your criteria.

The burden of proof is on you. Cheers.

YoBuckStopsHere OP ,
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And I am explaining that it is the case. Anyone who calls themselves a professor and doesn’t have a doctorate in their field is a hypocrite and a charlatan. I view them the same as a civilian pretending to be a military member or veteran. Sorry but you have to earn that title, not just give it to yourself.

foggy ,

Again, I had that title. So, again, you’re absolutely incorrect. Thanks for playing. Cheers.

UnderpantsWeevil ,
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Good luck finding right-wing professors, Ron.

Absolutely no shortage of right-wing academics and ideologues who would be happy to take an $80k/year stipend to tell their RAs to play PraegerU videos for an auditorium-sized classroom while they clumsily flirt with freshman co-eds in the back office.

Once you abandon the idea of education as a real thing that colleges are actually supposed to do, its basically just a no-show job that functions as a kick-back to your cronies.

echodot ,

But won’t that mean that everyone will just go to universities in other States? Isn’t the point here about a brain drain, not the complete loss of all population.

The people with no brains to drain will stay in Florida presumably.

UnderpantsWeevil ,
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But won’t that mean that everyone will just go to universities in other States?

That depends on how you value your college degrees. If degrees represent real useful career knowledge, then sure. But if they’re just tokens handed out to a social network, then why would I leave Florida U if I know an FU degree will land me a good job in a high-paying Florida business? If I’m just working the sales desk of a construction company or doing entry level accounting on my way to completing my CPA license or Real Estate License, who cares whether U. Miami or Florida State is a diploma mill?

The people with no brains to drain will stay in Florida presumably.

There are plenty of very good doctors that come out of Baylor and Brigham Young University, despite both campuses being notoriously far-right. You don’t need a liberal education to learn to code. You don’t need it to update actuarial tables at a big insurance company. You don’t need it to help run a multi-billion dollar media empire.

There is no shortage of good money in cultivating a large loyal contingent of right-wing academics, either. Certainly Milton Friedman and Karl Ichan and Charlie Munger did very well for themselves.

And where will the drained brains even go? It isn’t as though Silicon Valley or Wall Street are lacking for far-right ideological leaders. In the end, you’re still going to end up working at Exxon or Apple or FOX Media or Goldman Sachs, no matter how liberal your politics. Moving to California won’t save you from Peter Thiel or Ben Shapiro.

echodot ,

It’s not that having a right leaning political viewpoint will prevent you from learning higher skills it’s just that if businesses consider Florida to not be of high education quality then they won’t accept their diplomas.

Sure if I can just pay some money and then lie around doing nothing and get a degree that’s great, but only if the degree is actually valid outside of Florida. Otherwise I wanted a qualification that gives me options.

UnderpantsWeevil ,
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if businesses consider Florida to not be of high education quality then they won’t accept their diplomas.

The education that’s being targeted isn’t business school training or software development. DeSantis isn’t defunding the petroleum engineering department. This is all revolving around the liberal arts schools, effectively forcing out anyone with a history or english lit degree that doesn’t spend the weekends in white hoods.

kick_out_the_jams , in Drunk Delta Passenger Sexually Assaulted Mom and Teen Daughter on 9-Hour 'Nightmare' Flight: Lawsuit

After the harassment had escalated from verbal to sexual assault, the mother requested that the flight attendant change their seats, but they allegedly said there was nothing they could do.

A different male passenger volunteered to switch seats with the teen, however, and sat between the man and the mother for the remainder of the trip, according to the filing.

It it sometimes shocking how little it takes to be someone's hero when nobody else seems to care.

Radium ,

Seriously. I hate that some rando has to step in because the people who are literally there to step in either can’t or won’t.

When did fucking around on planes stop being followed by finding out? This guy had zero consequences after being so overt about it that a separate third party intervened.

NOT_RICK ,
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I thought this was the kind of shit that got you duct taped to your chair for 10 hours but I guess not

HurlingDurling ,

Seriously, where the fuck was the air marshall?

some_guy ,
@some_guy@kbin.social avatar

sexually assaulting a different passenger

Thorndike ,

There aren’t air marshals on every flight. That would be impossible to staff.

kissland ,

air marshall, if present, likely isnt stepping in unless there is an imminent danger to life.

kissland ,

at some point during covid, united ceo told staff to stop doing that. not sure if delta feels the same way

SweetSitty ,

It reminds me of being in a reverse situation. In that instance, I was the teenage girl, stuck between two guys who were drinking. Fortunately, it didn’t escalate to this extent, but it definitely made me realize my vulnerability.

GBU_28 ,

I wish another passenger had volunteered to throw him out of the plane.

Wrench ,

Airlines should be required to have at least a row of seats vacant. The current standard of intentionally over booking gives the flight staff very few options to deal with unruly passengers. SOMEONE needs to occupy the seats next to belligerent passengers, because there aren’t any other options.

This is a problem created by airline greed.

Acronymesis , in Illegal medical lab containing bioengineered mice and infectious agents including HIV and herpes discovered in California
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Do you want an actual Raccoon City? Because this is how you get an actual Raccoon City…

InverseParallax , in Illegal medical lab containing bioengineered mice and infectious agents including HIV and herpes discovered in California

I’m REALLY not trying to deaden the conspiracy-ness of this article…

But during covid we basically let a lot of research protocols and testing slack on the protocols:

www.hhs.gov/ohrp/…/index.html

fda.gov/…/exception-informed-consent-requirements…

I haven’t seen a protocol exception on sourcing research subjects, but I’m sure one was in place during covid, and I will bet real money these clowns were selling test mice, their paperwork was in faded crayon, they got paid 100x the normal prices, and unlike everyone else they just were too stupid to shut down and get out while the getting was good.

unwellsnail , in July keeps sizzling as Phoenix hits another 110-degree day and wildfires spread in California

It’s always so frustrating to see the same jokes and snark about Phoenix because most people will just accept that at face value, laugh, and move on. Phoenix gets hot, yea, but not like this otherwise it wouldn’t be newsworthy.

The summers bring heat but also usually rains, monsoons actually. They punctuate the stretches of heat bringing cooler temps and much needed relief. These usually start in June and occur regularly for the duration of summer but haven’t this year. People have lived in the area for thousands of years, this is abnormal and not as simple as “people live in hot area and complain about heat”.

DarkGamer , in Actor Paul Reubens, of PeeWee Herman fame, dead at 70
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Reubens created a lot of joy in the world, he will be missed.

WhiskyTangoFoxtrot , in Actor Paul Reubens, of PeeWee Herman fame, dead at 70
TransplantedSconie , in Actor Paul Reubens, of PeeWee Herman fame, dead at 70

Wild man. I remember watching Pee-wee’s Playhouse as a kid on those Saturday mornings oh so long ago. youtu.be/UsmFg7CD1Pg

ArugulaZ , in Actor Paul Reubens, of PeeWee Herman fame, dead at 70

Holy shit!
"He died on April 3rd."
DOUBLE holy shit!

GunnarRunnar ,

Where does it say that? Article is dated for today and the quote says his team shared the news on Monday, which I presume they mean today.

ArugulaZ ,

That's what RodneyCK was saying.

downpunxx , in Actor Paul Reubens, of PeeWee Herman fame, dead at 70
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Watching the PeeWee Herman Show special on HBO blew my mind as a young adult. What a talent, and stunted career in the end. We loved you Paul.

bentropy , in 6-year-old girl dies after mother accidentally struck her with a boat propeller in Arizona

That’s no news, that’s a sad information about a sad accident that makes me and everyone more sad. It’s in no way relevant for anyone other then the family, it doesn’t help to prevent further accident nor could anything be improved based on this information.

This was in Arizona and I live in Germany, if the internet keeps going to inform me about every tragedy on this glob I’m soon going to be one of them…

iAmTheTot ,
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I disagree about it not helping to prevent at all. It's a form of awareness of the serious dangers involved with boating. If even one person reads this and implements increased scrutiny while boating, that's a good thing.

bentropy ,

You really need an article about a dead child to remind you that a fast spinning metal propeller can be dangerous?

Aren’t there hundreds of warning signs with information just like that labeled on everything in the U.S.? Don’t you need some license or at least an instruction lesson to opperae a boat? Wouldn’t an article about boat safety in general be much more helpful than a story about a dead child?

Okay, one person on a boat is now more aware of the danger while ten people around the world are one step closer to mental breakdown and depression.

This article wasn’t written to help anyone, it was written to generate traffic by triggering empathy and compassion. It’s click bait.

xNIBx ,

Stories like this make the danger more "real". Yes, everyone knows about the danger but stories like this makes everyone even more aware. The reason there is so much emotional response proves that.

It's why there is the Auschwitz. Everyone knows about the holocaust, the dead, etc. But visiting Auschwitz definitely makes the whole thing more real. And this can be effective as a way of preventing a new Auschwitz.

Ghostc1212 ,

You really need an article about a dead child to remind you that a fast spinning metal propeller can be dangerous?

Often one doesn’t think that something is dangerous until it’s pointed out to them. Stories are the most effective way to spell shit out to people, it’s why we started making them.

Aren’t there hundreds of warning signs with information just like that labeled on everything in the U.S.?

Nobody reads those.

Don’t you need some license or at least an instruction lesson to opperae a boat?

Whether you need that, and the quality of it, depends on the state, and of course nothing’s stopping you from doing it illegally.

Wouldn’t an article about boat safety in general be much more helpful than a story about a dead child?

Who the fuck reads articles about boat safety?

Okay, one person on a boat is now more aware of the danger while ten people around the world are one step closer to mental breakdown and depression.

I’d recommend seeking a psychiatrist for that, this did not affect me whatsoever.

bentropy ,

You’re a very strong dude. Good for you.

But is your solution to “nobody reads signs or article” and “instructions or licences are bad quality” really that we simply need more tragic articles with no further helpful information/instruction?

Ghostc1212 ,

Yes, tragic stories are how you actually get through to people. Learning from other people’s mistakes is crucial, and the best way to ensure that this happens is to tell people stories which they will take lessons from.

bentropy ,

We should definitely rethink all of education on this premise 👍

Better to help the people who are to stupid to survive everyday life with vague allegorical stories than to help the people who are so weak that they get mentally ill from the constant stream of tragedy that is modern day media.

On the other hand, isn’t there a global trend where people stop consuming any news at all on the base that they feel like they’re getting sick from it?

And I don’t even own a boat 😢

krellor ,

The problem is that things which are local news gain emotional traction and spread beyond usefulness. When I lived (and boated) in Washington State, a series of boating accidents involving teenagers led to a state law requiring licenses to operate powered vessels and new safety regulations. The local coverage of those accidents was helpful and likely necessary to change the laws.

This article should be seen by people in Arizona so they can make decisions about their safety regulations. Unfortunately, it gets indexed and pushed beyond its relevance.

PwnTra1n ,

People in Arizona drive into flooded roads and die. Arizonans don’t so water so well…

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