Gotta love how people are instantly pulling a QAnon deal of “ITS A FALSE FLAG, FAKE NEWS, NOTHING HAPPENS WITHOUT A GRAND CABAL!”
Somehow Trump is a mastermind of this. The dude who can’t hide stolen files properly, can’t lie on his taxes properly, and loses money on a casino, somehow has the ability to rig a false flag assassination attempt.
Are NeoLibs that so far into the Kool-Aid that Dipshit Trump is also a grandmaster 5D chess player of this, while not being able to string words together? It’s not like he’s ever been a good actor.
“Now Trump’s gonna say Biden tried to kill him.”
He already said that.
“Now Trump’s gonna call for repression of the left.”
He already did that.
“Now they’re gonna say Trump is a martyr.”
They already say that.
“Now the right is gonna get violent with their political opponents.”
They already do that.
“Now the fash are gonna push for an enabling act.”
They already are doing that.
It’s equally frustrating and vindicating that people are waking up to the alarms minorities have been sounding for… decades? Even during 9/11, people were saying this is the start of the end for any form of freedom. Then we had economic crash after crash. Then more rights removed. More drone strikes. More illegal wars.
Then we tried to warn about Trump. No one cared. He won. The people who said he would hurt did get hurt. People acted shocked.
Biden came in. Ignored the people in jail cells, ignored COVID for better polling, refusing the new powers given to him to do anything better for the country at large, and slowly turning into a walking skeleton.
And every single time people have said “Hey this is bad for any form of democracy” people said it was overblown, nothing bad would happen. Then it got worse and worse. Voting didn’t solve most of the issues. Protesting did. And then both parties clamped harder on protestors and increased funding to the militarized police.
Welcome to Weimar Germany, America. People have only warned you for decades. If this doesn’t wake anyone up, then you’ll sleepwalk as you claim ignorance on why you’re “just following orders”.
First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out — Because I was MLK’s white moderate.
I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro’s great stumbling block in his stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen’s Counciler or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate,
who is more devoted to “order” than to justice;
who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice;
who constantly says: “I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I cannot agree with your methods of direct action”;
who paternalistically believes he can set the timetable for another man’s freedom; who lives by a mythical concept of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait for a “more convenient season.”
Shallow understanding from people of good will is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will. Lukewarm acceptance is much more bewildering than outright rejection.
I’ve been armed 24/7 since 01/06. Women, POC and LGBT folks are the largest gun purchasing demographic. They too got the memo. So no, I’m not giving up my AR-15 or anything other gun.
It’s like liberals skipped history class. We’re months away from “red hats” grouping up and patrolling neighborhoods for “undesirables”.
Like did anyone see what the cops did to us during the George floydd protests? Plus warren VS district of Columbia Supreme Court ruling says cops aren’t there to protect us.
We’re on our own. I wish we lived in a good place, but that’s not where we are. Or ever will be. Because we are here, and we live LIKE THIS.
We are indeed on our own. That type of thinking is what rural people excel at, and look how they vote.
No idea what the answer is. Violence, or even defense, from the left will be crushed, just like you said about the protests.
All I can say is that I will do me best to defend my family. If shooting back means my death, so be it. But unlike many libs, I’m not going to roll over when they come for me and mine.
Not advocating for the theory, but it’s borderline unbelivable that the man gets shot in the ear, and is more concerned about his shoes than his life, then stops to do a fist pump. This is the same man who dodged the draft.
You realize Trump was already previously part of a conspiracy to overthrow the election and was convicted of this, right? It’s not like he’s new to this kind of organizational crime. No one thinks he’s a mastermind; they think he’s a con artist and they just don’t trust him. And I’m not saying it was a false flag, I’m just pointing out that people are basing this on past evidence of his behaviors.
This is also not a qanon level of a conspiracy, it’s quite mild.
Here’s what right wing conspiracies have to say so far about the shooting (I highly recommend monitoring them to gauge how they will react the next few days):
It’s a terrible idea, having been a biker in socal. You’d think ventilated fabric, even a regular t-shirt with air moving on you from your forward motion would cool you…
It doesn’t. You’re actually adding heat (thermal energy) to your body faster than it can be removed by your sweat glands, the glands cannot output water fast enough to match the thermal energy being injected into you as the hot air passes over your body. You actually need to insulate yourself with a wind blocking jacket, at which point fuck that, stop riding, and wait a few hours.
It’s a very odd sensation, but you understand it almost without explanation if you’ve tried it… So what were these guys thinking, ignoring their body’s alarm bells?
I heard it’s not even the core temperature but actually pretty low. When I remember correctly it’s around 34C. That’s a Temperature even we in Europe will experience in summer regularly.
AFAIK the second best thing to do when it’s really hot and you’re on a motorcycle is: Make your underwear wet with water and put on your outer layer as insulation. The water will evaporate through your clothes and prevent the body from creating too much sweat which will cause dehydration. Repeat when you get dry.
The best thing ist to not ride a motorcycle for long periods of time under these conditions. I would maybe commute for up to an hour but never ever go touring when the temperatures reach 40C. It’s just too damn hot and you need more water then petrol
Not exactly. If it’s not humid, you can still shed heat through sweating. Evaporation is an endothermic process. It’s a physics equation involving primarily temperature and humidity, but also radiant heat and wind speed. Measuring the wet bulb globe temperature directly is usually easier.
You have to have wet bulb temperatures approaching body temperature for it to actually become lethal - you can still lose heat through perspiration if the humidity is not high enough.
Ambient temperatures of 36-37 C don’t immediately mean game over.
If only there was a good guy with a gun, they could have prevented this. Where, oh where, in a Pennsylvania right wing convention can be found a good guy with a gun?
Are there? He’s made it clear he wants to do away with anything resembling democracy. What elections do you think are going to survive white christofascism
If we don’t have enough numbers to beat him at the polling booth, we sure don’t have the numbers to beat his followers and the armed forces combined. Violence seems unlikely to prevail.
Would be true, but we do not use the popular vote. Besides, if he does win what do you suggest we do? Because we got to look at it as a real possibility or even the most likely outcome.
Agreed. It’s going to further inflame chaos and tensions in the country, it’s going to further radicalize Trump himself into an even nastier man, and it’s going to motivate his base. Even if Trump were to pass away, that base still remains, and we have the risk of a much more intelligent and gifted speaker taking up its leadership.
If it were anyone else, almost getting shot should be a wake-up call. “What have I become that this happens? Maybe I need to change how I act, and what I do.” But , no.
There have been many failed and successful assassinations of political leaders or other public people. You think if John Lennon had survived his assassination he should have taken it as a wake-up call and revisit his values and public stances?
There is many good reasons why Trump should start introspecting. And if he would develop some sort of empathy and decency probably the pain of seeing who he was and is would kill him better than any bullet could.
But this is because he is Trump. This is not because someone wanted to kill him. All sorts of people want to kill all sorts of people for all sorts of reason.
True, it was always never going to lead to good things. But this will keep it on track to not changing.
I just hope Trump pusses out when he realizes he and a bunch of supreme court justices are foing to get this for nearly every public appearance for four years if he manages to eek out a win lol. It was said above already.
Violence demands self defense. Today was an act to try and save everyone.
I mean this is the world he wants, you can’t dog whistle people to take up arms against tyranny without a comfortable acceptance of the irony pool you are filling. Everyone will try to spin this to their political advantage but the truth is this is the level of political discourse the right has been driving towards.
Trump’s rhetoric almost lead to Pelosi getting killed. Trump’s rhetoric got people killed on Jan 6th. Republicans have been posting images with crosshairs of their opponents for years, and now they are surprised that shit is turning violent…
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