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DigitalTraveler42 , in Shame 🔔

Ah that good old persecution fetish…

KoboldCoterie ,
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So strong, being unashamed to proclaim your belief in the dominant religion in the country. So brave.

I wonder if they’d be so willing to advertise this if they were, for instance, in the middle east.

skulblaka ,
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If they were in the middle east they would be Muslim. These people did not choose Christianity from a multiple choice option. They were led down a path. If they lived in a different area they would have been led down a different path and the end result would remain the same, just with a different name.

seathru ,

What if they are in the middle east on vacation?

Sheeple ,
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They’d try to preach the christian “word” and then promptly die. Or they’d leave racist social media posts

Speculater ,
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The politically, religiously, economically, and socially dominate people love to act like they’re being persecuted. Fucking idiots every single conservative Christian. I’m going up go further since I’m half a beer in, all Christians in the West.

menemen , in Being “gifted”, only makes you wish you weren’t sometimes
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The guilt that “you could have done more with your life”, despite being a successful engineer with a happy family.

OsrsNeedsF2P ,

“Gurtaj is a principle software engineer at Google you know! You used to be the same grade in school. What happened?”

“Dad, I’m running a multimillion dollar startup right now”

“Tsk tsk”

Lepsea ,

“with all that million dollar you still can’t be a doctor, did you know your nephew could play violins blindfolded while performing a surgery when he was still 3 years old. What a disappointment”

TechieDamien ,

Meanwhile,

“Osrs is running a multimilion dollar startup you know! You used to be the same grade at school. What happened?”

“Dad, I’m a principle software engineer at Google right now!”

“Tsk tsk”

Dkarma ,

Dude…fuck…are you me?

terminhell , in and I almost cried when I stubbed my toe earlier

For the other men that see this: The stabbing is the pain of cramps. Had to ask my wife on this, as I wasnt sure what was meant.

CryptoRoberto ,

Thank you, the reference was not landing for me.

Mothra ,
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I’m a woman and I also didn’t get it. It’s different for everyone I guess.

dingus , in Good evening I choose more Ross.
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Cheez ,
iAmPotato ,

This is why god abandoned us

madcaesar ,

Nick Cage never left us!

WaltJRimmer , (edited ) in Dealbreaker or no?
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She didn’t just think she was a witch, which I was mostly OK with because religions are weird and stuff, so I thought as long as it doesn’t reach the realm of life-affecting problems, it’s a non-issue.

She also believed she had friends who were werewolves, she could do magic, the date of your birth determined your personality, because a planet was in retrograde good things were about to happen, vampires started the Red Cross so they could always have access to blood, and, oh yeah, along with her two mortal parents she also had an incubus second father and that she was half-demon and that’s why she liked sex when she wasn’t supposed to.

That… That girl needed some serious help, but claimed that she was well-adjusted and fit to help other people instead. Because, of course, she was also an empath…

Edit: I want to make something clear that it suddenly struck me I haven’t; with all this craziness that she believed, that young woman had her life a hell of a lot more together than I did or do. She graduated university while I flunked out, she found a job while I’m being rejected every time that I apply, she found a low-rent apartment to live in while I’m still living with my folks. Don’t get me wrong, girl had some trauma and had some problems. But she was contributing to society while I’m fucking around on the internet because I can’t seem to make anything of myself.

Ack ,

That’s amazing!

Hemi03 ,

She downloaded Tiktok into her brain. Big mistake.

Telorand ,
@Telorand@kbin.social avatar

She fell prey to one of the classic blunders.

DrWeevilJammer ,
@DrWeevilJammer@lemmy.ml avatar

Never go in against the Red Cross when blood is on the line?

MajorMajormajormajor ,

Inconceivable!

CowsLookLikeMaps ,

Knowledge passed down from the ancient days of Tumblr…

The_Picard_Maneuver OP ,
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That’s so much to unpack

WaltJRimmer ,
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It really was. While there were bits and pieces of this that came up during the relationship, the bulk of this came out as we were breaking up. She had been abused as a kid, though I’m not sure the extent of that abuse. At the very least, she was abused by being effectively abandoned. She said she fended for herself, mostly eating canned food she got for herself through grade school, things like that.

I was upset for a while, she’s not someone I want anything to do with, but mostly I just feel bad for her. She was traumatized as a kid, she receded into a delusion to try and escape that, and her delusion came to define her to the point where she got incredibly defensive if you tried to challenge its reality. She had said that she tried therapy before but that it didn’t work because she knew better than the therapists how to deal with her problems, and I’m certain what that actually means is that they tried to talk her out of her delusion and she wasn’t having any of it.

I really hope she got the help she needs, but I sadly doubt it.

MarigoldPuppyFlavors ,

How old was she? Because, while I don’t doubt the mental health aspect of it all, it also sounds a lot like a young person who doesn’t really know themselves and is desperate to feel special.

WaltJRimmer ,
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I don’t remember exactly how old she was, but we were in our last years of university (I failed out, she graduated) so she was definitely in her early twenties, 22-24, somewhere in there.

And, yeah, no, my amateur and as such meaningless guess of a diagnosis was also that part of the delusion was a need to feel special. She talked about how most other people didn’t know the truth, they couldn’t know the truth, because she had magic power that let her know things about the world that normal humans couldn’t. You get that sort of language in conspiracy theorists and other types of people who want to feel special, they want to be in on some secret that everyone else can’t be. So I’d say that’s definitely part of it. But I also think, especially with her believing in a third parent when she was initially abandoned by her father and effectively abandoned by her mother until her father got custody of her again, I think most of it stems from her trauma as a child. Even that need to feel special, with no real parental figure for many of her formative years (I don’t remember how old she said she was when her father regained custody of her), probably stemmed from that lack of anyone encouraging her.

But, ultimately, I don’t know. She didn’t tell me half of this stuff until we were breaking up. And I’m not a psychologist, and she very much needed one.

MadBob ,

I had a brief connection with a woman last year who was similarly deluded but in a different way, but also outstandingly kind, talented, intelligent, etc etc, and she was very open about how much abuse she’d undergone in her life, and it just makes me fucking cry. I’ve never cried about anything so much in my life. It feels like there’s no justice.

rev ,

As someone with a twin with a completely different personality the idea of horoscopes has always been sily

WaltJRimmer ,
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If you think horoscopes don’t make any sense, you’re really going to be boggled by its sister, numerology.

rev ,

ugh hate all that stuff

burntbutterbiscuits ,

Well to be fair your post does have 10 likes at the moment

flamingo_pinyata ,

and that’s why she liked sex when she wasn’t supposed to.

At the risk of shallow psychoanalysis I think we found the root cause. She was taught sex is a bad thing so she constructed an elaborate fantasy world to justify it

WaltJRimmer ,
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That was one part of a whole that a never got anywhere near finding out the entire story. With that and her stories of being damn near abandoned as a child, it really worried me as to what might have happened to her that she never felt free enough to tell me.

I tried to explain, “Like, no, that’s normal.” And she was just insistent that it was not. I didn’t know about the believing herself to be half-succubus until later, but when I found that out, it kind of clicked into place that something happened to her and she just cannot believe that a normal person should enjoy sex the way she does. And that is… Really troubling.

icepuncher69 ,

What was she of you? Classmate? Friend or what?

WaltJRimmer ,
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Started out as co-workers in a university work-study job, had a short relationship.

icepuncher69 ,

Ok, ty

TehBamski , in They're not supposed to look like that
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Please don’t give the crazy nuts of the internet misinformation. The amount of gullible people on the internet is too high as it is.

mestari ,

This one’s nut even that bad. Gas ovens are proven to cause asthma. Someone believing those are actual lungs wouldn’t be that bad.

catreadingabook ,
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I'm confused maybe. I've heard of gas stoves, but how does a gas oven work?

preciouspupp ,

By making a small fire inside the oven?

TIEPilot ,

Gas ovens work by mixing natural gas and air to produce heat. When the thermostat is set, a fuse lights the gas as it seeps through a burner snaking inside the oven. The burner has multiple holes in it for the lighted gas to escape from, allowing the heat to spread throughout the oven’s interior. Modern gas ovens have electric pilot ignitions that create a small, continuous flame that increases in temperature and height by twisting a corresponding knob to the area in use4. The temperature of the oven stays consistent throughout the entire cooking period.

Vent ,

ChatGPT, is that you?

SnipingNinja ,

The “use4” makes me think Wikipedia

Octopus1348 OP ,

Or Bing AI

WizardofIs ,

We’ll, that’s just nutty!

TIEPilot ,

And? Also common house cleaners cause asthma, also parental smoking, etc.

CodingSquirrel ,

Yeah, which is why you shouldn't use strong household cleaners around kids, and should only use it with proper ventilation and a respiratory device if warranted. And smoking is bad, don't do it around your kids.

"Why should I stop doing one harmful thing when I knowingly do a lot of other dumb harmful things."

DeepFriedDresden ,

https://slate.com/technology/2023/01/gas-stoves-asthma-paper-headlines-kids.html

Gas ovens are not necessarily going to cause asthma. You can mitigate the amount of air pollution that they produce but having a gas oven doesn't necessarily mean a child will develop asthma or that they will even be the cause. Florida has a very small amount of gas stoves and yet have a median share of asthmatic children. There's too many other factors that can effect the data link to say for sure that gas ovens are a leading cause.

ikidd ,
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I’d say compulsively spritzing Febreze would have more to do with asthma than gas ovens, but I know a bunch of Karen’s that still go through a costco pack of the stinky fucking things a month, all over the furniture their kids eat, play and sleep on.

queermunist , in Can you Americans pass the test?
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Atlantis 👀

SulaymanF , in When someone makes a crude joke on the internet

Poe’s Law. Without a sarcasm tag it’s impossible to know if the person is being sarcastic or is that extreme.

SocialMediaRefugee ,

You can always find someone on a social media site who actually holds that belief

Sotuanduso ,

Therefore it’s okay to argue against strawmen.

GatoB ,

Most of the times its sarcasm unless you are in some places

helpImTrappedOnline , in hallelujah

Followed by disappointment because its not as good as you remember.

UxyIVrljPeRl ,

404 file not found

cmgvd3lw ,

Followed by disappointment because the video has been deleted.

Sonotsugipaa ,
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Followed by disappointment because I’m a disappointment

shoki ,

followed by happieness because you found it on some .ru subdomain with 99% ads

Sonotsugipaa ,
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of which 85% got the uBlock Origin treatment and 4% contain my current public-facing IPv4 address

shoki ,

what do you mean by “contain my ip address”? are you behind carrier-grade NAT that some of the hosters are using as well?

Sonotsugipaa ,
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Nah, I’m refering to socially engineering scam ads like the classic “ATTENTION! your Windows has error, click here to fix it.”

shoki ,

yeah, i see what you mean, but I haven’t seen on of those in a long time

fossphi ,

My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined

Boxscape ,
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Followed by disappointment because its not as good as you remember.

She doesn’t beatbox at all in this video.
But she gets her box beat.

😏

t7tis , in Uncanny Valley

It would be a evolutionary benefit to fear / avoid any person that is behaving strangely in certain distinct ways. Could be a dangerous transmittable disease, i.e. rabies etc.

Etterra ,

It’s probably the entire reason people lost their shit over the idea of catching leprosy.

Bogasse ,
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That makes a lot of sense👍

x4740N , in Destroying friendship
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Wouldn’t most development programs tell them the syntax error on the line and column where you replaced the semicolon

This wouldn’t work

lechatron ,
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Just tested in the console, it gives an illegal character error and gives you the line number.

Cipher22 ,

It would work for someone just starting and not knowing good tooling yet. However, the compiler should also tell you where to look and give you the area to look at as well. It’ll be less clear than an IDE, though.

ShortFuse , (edited )

VSCode will add a yellow box around the character and tell you it’s an uncommon glyph.

code.visualstudio.com/updates/v1_63#_unicode-high…

To note, this came about because it could be valid code and it’s a security risk from copy/pasting malicious code. See:

certitude.consulting/blog/en/invisible-backdoor/

kamen ,

Yup. It’s as if we’re assuming this friend is coding inside Notepad.

saigot ,

Yeah, doing something similar with brackets would be much more effective since that usually doesn’t give a line number. Is there a unicode clone of )?

cmrn , in Yes, but

I don’t run Adblock because I hate brands, I use it because the internet is more invasive by the day.

If one day I go to put on my shirt and another company sewed their logo over the neck hole, well then we’ll have a similar issue.

jkrtn ,

You go to reach for a coffee and the wrist hole of your sleeve suddenly accordions over your entire hand as an ad unfurls from your shoulder.

NoSpiritAnimal ,
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I open the toilet seat to have a pee, a three foot flag unfurls from the ceiling, ITS HONDAFEST!

A small corporate social media account emerges from the bowl, screaming relatable phrases it copied from r/memes. ITS GIVING SAVINGS, FAM NO CAP.

My wife enters asking if I’m ok. I reach out for her, too late, she has become a smiling vacant eyed Summer’s Eve ad. Not so fresh, I weep.

nickwitha_k ,

The future of neurolink.

chaotic_altruist ,

I use it because that increasing invasiveness really messes with my ADHD. Ads make me spend extra energy and concentration to filter to what I want (and I won’t buy their crap anyway).

southsamurai , in Brits: Salt is a spice
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The meme is funny :)

That being said, the only UK foods I’ve had were made by expats here in the states. None of it was bland, with the exception of breakfast beans, “because they’re meant to be mild to start your day” as I was told by a lovely liverpudlian.

She would do fish and chips, and the batter was well seasoned. Not heavily seasoned, but some pepper, a little paprika, and a bit of onion powder to give it some aromatic kick. Well balanced, and imo, as good as any of the southern fried fish recipes I’ve had.

The chips were obviously just salted and vinegar used per person.

But when we did pot luck at work, she would bring in what she called “good english food”, which included some curry a few times.

But her shepherd’s pie? Holy hell, that was some great stuff. She said it was really cottage pie because it was beef usually. But it had the usual pepper, onion, garlic, and herbs.

And the other expats I ate with were similar. Maybe different amounts of a given herb or spice, but it was in there.

I think the UK food thing is a meme in itself, and likely arose the way things usually do, with the majority of cooks just being bad cooks, rather than representative of a cuisine or the way things are done properly in that country.

MY_ANUS_IS_BLEEDING ,

The reputation comes from the US military being stationed in the UK during the height of WW2 rationing when there was an extremely limited list of ingredients to cook with. They were unable to associate a country under an attempted siege from U-boats with a reduced supply of food.

We do have a love of beige food at times, but it’s essentially our version of chicken tendies.

southsamurai ,
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Ahhh, that makes sense. Kinda rough that the rep hasn’t gone away yet, though.

01011 , (edited )

It hasn’t gone away because countless students from across the globe have moved there and found it to be true. While there is good food available in the UK it seems as if the average Brit is content to eat very badly and then supplement a terrible diet with copious amounts of alcohol.

martinb ,

What else would you supplement a terrible diet with?

01011 ,

Coffee? Tea? Illicit drugs.

(They do all the above).

Dasnap ,
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We also had rationing for a good while longer than other countries after the wars (right into the mid-50s), so we have a whole generation who were pretty much raised with limited food options. That kind of national trauma sticks around and took a while to shake off.

Aggravationstation ,

Boomers made that bland war time food linger. They were children during and just after WW2 so it was part of their childhood nostalgia and they fed it to their own kids. Also we’ve had Indian/ Chinese restaurants in the UK for a while but they were mostly just in major cities at first so the average person still had little exposure to foreign or exotic food until the late 1970s/ early 1980s.

exocrinous ,

Boomers weren’t children during WWII. Boomer means baby boomer, as in someone born during the baby boom. The baby boom happened after the war ended.

Aggravationstation ,

Good point. But rationing continued in the UK until 1954 so it did affect them.

june ,

My ex mother in law and her mom both can’t eat any food that’s not a certain level of bland. Too much of any spice at all and they set it aside like an autistic kid with arfid. Which… come to think of it…

lightnegative ,

Yep, this sums up everyone I know over 60 that is descended from British -immigrants- sorry expats.

Actual British people coming over now that still sound British seem to have much more refined taste. BIR-style curries are indeed very popular vs bland British “stew” / casserole

John_McMurray ,

man if you make stew right it’s the most flavourful thing out there. half a bottle of red wine, couple cans crushed tomatos, chop up half your intended vegetables( Carrot, potato, onion, green onion stems, parsnips and celery for me), brown the beef, dump it all in except the other half of your vegetables, bring the level up with strong beef broth till everything is covered, and simmer covered till it all except the beef dissolves into a brown gravy, then add the other half of your vegetables and serve when they are cooked. Bay leaves and rosemary and thyme and pepper of course too. Garlic. Usually enough salt from the beef broth.

prettybunnys ,

I went to the the UK when I was a teenager pre 9/11 and I remember the food being amazing imo.

But honestly I love savory food that just needs a pinch of salt to make it pop so maybe I’m the problem too.

jaybone ,

Literally by definition boomers would have been born after WW2.

captainlezbian ,

Yeah this one was the silent generation

captainlezbian ,

Also as an American we don’t really have room to talk. Yes there’s the iconic southern foods but even then, grits are bland and meh. But for the most part a lot of traditional American food needed to have spices rediscovered. It seems like for a long time our attitude was to use sugar, pre ground pepper, and maybe salt as seasoning for something that had any good texture cooked out of it.

SnipingNinja ,

An aside here: but why is it that people from major cities aren’t considered average? In many cases major cities are major because they have a lot higher density of people leading to more development and resources.

UpperBroccoli ,

It’s the same with English beer. On the continent, people keep saying that Brits drink their beer lukewarm. When I was there, they actually had temperature displays at the tap in most pubs that usually showed something around 4°C (~39°F). For reference, that was in the Huddersfield area (between Leeds and Manchester) around 15 years ago.

egonallanon , (edited )

That’s because of a lot Englishales are drunk at room temp/ slightly below though not as cold as refrigerated.

undergroundoverground ,

True and thats because they were invented before refrigerators.

AlpacaChariot , (edited )

Well in this case the reputation for “warm beer” is true and I’m willing to die on this particular hill.

Proper cask ale should be served at between 8 and 12C, AKA cellar temperature, cool but not cold. Nothing beats a traditional pint of ‘best bitter’ in an old pub!

Plenty of people in the UK drink lager and other styles of beer that are more highly carbonated, stronger ABV, and served colder. Personally I’m not a fan but each to their own.

I live about an hour from London in a rural area with loads of great pubs but I find it difficult to find a nice beer in most parts of London. It’s much easier to keep a keg of carbonated beer under pressure than a cask ale that you have to finish within a few days of tapping, which is why when a certain proportion of a pub’s clientele start drinking other styles it just isn’t worth it for the pub to keep real ale. Hopefully it won’t become a niche thing.

bluewing ,

I’ve home brewed a lot of English ales and I agree that those ales should be served warmer. If you don’t, the cold mutes and kills the subtle and rich flavors.

Lagers are good, but a good British Ale is something to savory with good friends.

yeah ,

I don’t think I’d recommend chilli peppers with your user name.

John_McMurray ,

It’s probably cause his spoon is too big.

Venat0r ,

I’ve heard that food in the US is generally bad, so maybe not the best comparison 😜 😂

Maeve ,

They clearly never had soul food or Gullah/Geechee food.

NoIWontPickaName ,

He's Canadian.

You cant trust those frozen tree suckers

dubyakay ,

Are the trees frozen or the suckers?

MelodiousFunk ,

Depending on the time of year, yes.

Maeve ,

How rude (although it was a clever insult and I literally laughed. I needed that. Thanks)!

southsamurai ,
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Lmao!

A lot of people everywhere don’t know how to cook. They don’t even bother to try and learn, so they rely on corporate packaged foods and restaurants. That’s a separate thing from the cuisine of a given place, or the cooking of people that do know how to.

That may seem like sophistry, but it is an important point to remember when talking about cooking when not joking around for fun. You can’t really use people that aren’t actually doing a thing, or have never learned how to do it as an representative example of what a country’s core is. It’s like athletics, you can’t say that Ethiopians are bad ice skaters if the average person can’t access time and equipment to ice skate in the first place. (Not picking on Ethiopia, it was just the first country that came to mind as not being very present in the world ice skating stage).

It’s legit to say that the US has a major food education problem, as does the UK from what I’ve heard, but that is a different issue than the national cuisine.

Venat0r ,

True, it’s not American cuisine that’s bad, apparently McDonald’s hamburgers taste better in NZ than the USA too, probably because all the beef here is grass fed.

Whitebelt_Dural ,
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I like the safety third crew but they’ve also ate dog food and didn’t find much issue with it.

Venat0r ,

That’s a really good point 😂

VaultBoyNewVegas ,

Shepard’s pie is Irish btw. Not a surprise a scouser would be able to make a good one when Liverpool has a large Irish community.

astreus ,

Common myth, not true.

First recorded recipe for Shepherds Pie is from a Scottish cookbook from 1849. First recorded use of Cottage Pie is 1791 by an English clergyman.

Cottage Pie was used for both lamb and beef varieties until recently and was a way of eating leftover meats.

astreus ,

My favourite “traditional” English meal is a good Steak and Kidney pie, made with an ale sauce. Seasoned with lots of pepper, Worcestershire sauce (anchovy sauce), onion and stock. Absolutely delicious.

Simulation6 ,

Case proven, all the good cooks left.

Rinox ,

I think the issue is mostly in the visuals. When you look for traditional English food, it is usually a plate full of beige stuff, sometimes paired with really unappetizing boiled carrots and beans. The gravy being on the side instead of part of the dish doesn’t do it any favors either.

Also I’d argue England has pretty low standards for what counts as “food”. I’ve had to work in England for a month, and finding something fresh, healthy and tasty to eat was a real challenge. I’ve never been as fat as when I came home.

The epitome of the wasted potential of English cuisine is the fact that it’s an island full of the best fishes in the world, yet the only fish you can find is battered cod. Why is it so hard to get a salmon fillet? You have Scottish salmon ffs!

flashgnash ,

We do have a lot of very bland food over here, but a lot of us like that.

It’s a lot more about the texture sometimes, some of us (not me) can do some amazing roast vegetables and everyone seems to have their own ancient tradition for how to make them

jballs , (edited ) in Here's a phone, call somebody who cares
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For anyone else who was out of the loop, this is a joke from the IT Crowd when (in the show) England was changing their emergency services numbers:

From today, dialing 999 won’t get you the emergency services. And that’s not the only thing that’s changing. Nicer ambulances, faster response times and better-looking drivers mean they’re not just the emergency services — they’re your emergency services. So, remember the new number: 0118 999 881 999 119 725… 3.

Edit: Edited for clarification that this was a joke in the show and England did not change their emergency services number IRL.

Zerush ,
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0118 999 881 999 119 752… 3 is the Pastor, not confuse

r00ty Admin ,
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We never changed emergency numbers. It might have referred to when we changed directory enquiries from a single one operated by your phone provider to multiple options with the prefix 118 xxx. Or perhaps when we extended emergency services to also have non emergency numbers for police and health issues.

Otherwise it's been 999 for decades (with 112 also routed to the same).

tristan ,

It was the IT crowd, a TV show, not real life

r00ty Admin ,
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No, really? Wow, this is completely new information!

meekah ,
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The original comment did read like it was an actual thing happening in England, though

Aggravationstation ,

It did, but the numbers never changed.

I’ve lived in England for all of my 36 years and it’s always been 999.

15liam20 ,

How do you know? When is the last time you checked?

Aggravationstation ,

You’re right. I’d best give them a call to be on the safe side. Sure they won’t mind if I explain why.

jballs ,
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I’m not British, so I don’t know the history of this. The article I took my info specifically said:

Until 2003, you could call directory enquiries (to find out the phone number of someone if you knew their name and address) by dialing 192. That system was privatized, and you had to dial 118 NNN, where the NNN was the number assigned to a commercial service provider, the most famous of which became 118 118.

So the joke in the show was basically, “what if we did to emergency services what we did to directory enquiries”.

Aggravationstation ,

Lol yea, I forgot that happened.

Don’t think I’ve ever used directory enquiries in my life. I was 16 in 2003 and we already had the internet at home by then.

GeneralEmergency ,

Are you sure about that. They specifically called out England and not the UK. That is a sure fire way to tell that they know what they’re talking about.

trolololol ,

Did you actually mean in real fictional life

Lolol

MargotRobbie , in venture capitalism goes brrr

Lemmy’s biggest competitor at this point isn’t reddit, it’s Discord, or rather, the monster it has become. It seems to me that instead of creating a subreddit nowadays, every project now wants to use a Discord server for everything.

The problem with that is:

  1. Asking messages in a big, open chatroom (over, say, 20 people) gets real messy, real quickly.
  2. Conversations on Discord are difficult to follow when multiple of them are going at once.
  3. The conversations containing solutions to problems in chat or threads are not search indexable, which is the reason why reddit became quietly dominant in search results, it is simply the biggest centralized repository of organized English language text conversations available.

So why do people insist on using Discord servers to build their community? Simple, it’s the network effect. If somebody wants tech support, it’s way easier to click a Discord invite on an account for group chat you already have than it is to sign up for yet another forum that you only use once. But Lemmy doesn’t suffer from that problem of traditional forums because of federation.

Which brings me to my point, if Lemmy is to grow, it’s better to sell Lemmy to disgruntled Discord admins and forum owners to move their community than it is to get people to move off reddit at this point, since people who wants to leave reddit has all done so at this point.

KrummsHairyBalls ,

Discord sucks, but I’ve actually had a 100% successful help rate on it vs Reddit or Lemmy.

Typically Discord servers have specific tech support rooms, and you’ll get help pretty quickly. Only once I have had to ask my question a second time, because it was missed the first time.

Meanwhile Reddit threads just get downvoted, buried, and you’re never helped. Even when I try to search for threads that other people have posted, 90% of threads are just blank.

Lemmy is the worst. Doesn’t matter what you need, they’ll just call you stupid and tell you to use Linux and FOSS alternative, ignoring the fact you NEED to use what you’re asking help with.

nephs ,

Maybe you just identified the need for an activity pub fediverse project specific to dev support/communities for tech projects.

MrShankles ,

A forum should work in tandem with a chatroom in an “ideal” online community, imo. Searchable Q&A with a communication for additional, nuanced interaction. They serve different purposes and can be more powerful when used together, than they could be on their own.

Lemmy does seem to have a bunch of old, crotchety internet nerds on here that like the “old ways” of the webs. But just tell 'em to “go fuck yourself”, if they’re being a dick; and than don’t reply to them again. It’s very freeing. They’re just butt sensitive about linux and foss, cause they were bullied on early internet forums and now act the same way, when expressing their loud-ass opinions. It’s like an unfortunate cycle of abuse that has existed on forums, but don’t let it discourage you from asking anyway… the question might help others

I’m a crotchety old internet nerd… tell me to “go fuck myself”, just for funsies! It’s empowering!

And also… fuck you buddy, get good!

Truck_kun ,

I feel like Discord fills a different need than forum type systems.

The one API I have on discord, likes Discord as a place for casual chat about the system. I think the devs prefer it because it is an active place for the community; to word it better, ‘hey look at this cool thing I did’ > response within a few minutes ‘that’s cool’ heart^5 fire^3 thumbs up^7. Whereas on a forum you’d be waiting for hours, or just not have that casual of a conversation.

It replaces the old usage of IRC servers.

The help channel is highly responsive, and great for things you want a quick chat about, need a response now, or if you get help now great, but if not, you’ll figure it out on your own before you would ever get help on a forum, so it’s not worth posting to a forum.

Threads really do help organize when a discussion is going to be large, and discord is very much searchable, just not from your browser search engine.

For changes to the API, ideas, issues, or bugs, they direct you to github “Discussions” or “Issues”. They do have an idea discord channel, but it’s a more casual thing, or far out there discussions.

Discord does get a lot of hate for it’s searchability, which is valid, but I don’t have a problem with it as long as places like Stack Overflow (or what replaces it) are still around.

HonorIsDead ,

Discord is really bad for preservation of information. I can still find forum posts from 10 years ago on a given topic all over, but discord links seem to expire and break all the damn time and it’s hard to search through. It sucks that discord has become the defacto choice for user community space.

feecoomeeq ,

Discord is the same problem for the internet as the Facebook grups were. Its hermetic, the info stays there, its hard to search thus the same problem is being asked over and over. StackOverflow and Reddit strength is that’s they are indexed and easy accessed

TunaLobster ,

Lenny does part of this yes. Fediverse is the bigger ticket item. From a single account I can federate to different networks and post questions or have other interactions in different formats.

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