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player2 , in FOSS Devs Rule

You clearly haven’t looked at the options and feature set of sync. It would be the muscular bodybuilder in this analogy.

voidavoid , in Google taught me it's OK to be evil

Someone’s underestimating the age of the internet.

Unaware7013 ,

Seriously, Eternal September was like 30 years ago.

Cube6392 ,

Eh. But what does it mean to be raised online? I think for that you need the availability of ever present internet connections in the form of mobile devices. I think the first kids raised online would have been born in 2003, and would have been 4, preschool age, in 2007 when the iPhone came out. Those kids are 16 now. If we want to set the standard for “raised online” as being “digital native” then I think we should dial back the range to when AIM was popular. Again, setting the standard for who could have been raised with that constant interconnectedness as being someone who was 4 at time of introduction would give us the first AIM connected people reaching age 30 right now.

The reality is, I think, in the middle. The first generation we could say was raised online is basically right in between those two ages, 23. The other standard we could try to set is, who is the first generation who doesn’t remember the internet as exciting, just instead a daily part of life

Lileath ,
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I am sorry to disappoint but people born in 2003 would be either 19 or 20 years old now. I know that it is hard to accept getting old.

Cube6392 ,

I am bad at math

TimeSquirrel ,
@TimeSquirrel@kbin.social avatar

Yeah but...ordinary people were not dialing into BBS forums back then. We weren't "raised" online like kids now are, we were able to log off anytime and not ever need it to function in society. That started changing in the early 2000s. All my kid's school assignments are now done on a laptop on a district-owned cloud system. He hasn't needed a pencil and paper in...I forgot how long.

If you're around my age, congratulations on being the last generation to ever know what the world was like before widespread use of the Internet.

mnemonicmonkeys ,

If you’re around my age, congratulations on being the last generation to ever know what the world was like before widespread use of the Internet.

This is why I always insist that the cutoff between millenial and Gen Z is 1995. There’s a pretty obvious generational split along this topic and 1995 seems to be the birth year of the divide

TacticsConsort , in Google taught me it's OK to be evil
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Shoutout to Deviantart, they a real one

lemann ,

Shame you need an account now to download the old cursor packs and stuff

Zekas ,

Sadly even with furry porn, still a product. They forced everyone to be in some art AI dataset, it’s quite the downfall

itsAllDigital , in How it feels as an iOS user right now

Where’s Infinity?

GrumbleGrim , in live laugh love

People who “fix” things with duct tape have terrible problem solving skills. Being proud of what is essentially low IQ is a weird flex.

meyotch ,

Have to agree. It’s not a fix for anything much really. Even if the correct solution is some kind of tape, it’s probably not ‘duct’ tape. Definitely don’t use it for ducting!

Roundcat , in Google taught me it's OK to be evil
@Roundcat@kbin.social avatar

Vine taught me you're worthless unless you're making someone else money.

agitatedpotato ,

Sounds like it prepared you for the world economy

produnis , in Dutch eh
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virtualfiber , in How it feels as an iOS user right now

No love for Connect? Best app I’ve used so far.

Laticauda , in FOSS Devs Rule

My God this is the whiniest post I’ve seen on the topic yet.

Designate6361 , in FOSS Devs Rule

lemmy becoming as whiney and as entitled as reddit users

ReallyKinda , in Dutch eh

“Would you care for some bang bang machines?” 🇱🇺

Plantee ,
@Plantee@kbin.social avatar

Is that a flag from Luxembourg?

ReallyKinda ,

🇳🇱 sorry guys here’s a flag with a slightly darker blue

Redredme ,

That’s just the Netherlands light.

TimeSquirrel , in The dutch man
@TimeSquirrel@kbin.social avatar

"Then the Dutch revolt, and all the hipsters moved to Amsterdam."

"Damn." said Amsterdam. "We gotta start pillaging some stuff".

cowfodder , in I do not pay money AND personal data
Brustadnrift , in Google taught me it's OK to be evil

Man, this is depressing. While I wasn’t “raised online” since I was raised on dialup and couldn’t block the phone line all that long.

I still remember when google was the new kid on the block and the general feeling about them across early Internet forums.

Microsoft was evil because they copied everybody else’s stuff and wanted to charge for it. Apple was clueless making expensive junk. Sun was a darling for a while at least until they started pulling shit.

Enter mother-fucking-Google. Ethical. Honest. Not evil. Smart. Supporting open source. And on top of all that, FREE to use. Like Microsoft wants to charge you for hotmail if you want an inbox > 2MB? Fucking EVIL!!! Google is ethical because they are completely free!!! And I hear they are working on an email service too. Google just wants to shepherd the internet and protect it from companies like Microsoft, Apple, and AOL.

Oh Google.

Asafum ,

A company that survives long enough eventually gets turned to the dark $ide. Greedy asshats will always ruin a good thing for their own benefit

kittenbridgeasteroid ,

Any company that becomes publicly traded gets turned to the dark side. That’s the factor that does it because they have a legal requirement to do everything they can to maximize profits.

Trying to sustain perpetual growth will always lead to companies fucking over their customers and employees.

blindbunny ,

While I feel this is true there are so few privately owned companies that prove this as fact. Holds breath that steam never fucks over its customers

mnemonicmonkeys ,

I live Valve, but there’s always that nagging bit in the back of my mind reminding me that they can always turn evil in the span of a few years. And the recent debacle with Dolphin doesn’t help

TALL421 ,
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Dolphin isn’t really their fault though. That all comes down to the developers and Nintendo. The outcome sucks either way

mnemonicmonkeys ,

No, Dolphin was their fault. Valve reached out to Nintendo before Dolphin was added to the store. If Valve hadn’t asked Nintendo for permission first, Nintendo probably would have said nothing

kittenbridgeasteroid ,

Nintendo is required by law to do something or else they run the risk of losing their trademarks.

mnemonicmonkeys ,

This has nothing to do with trademark, only copyright.

LiquorFan ,

It makes sense though. People can already install Dolphin wherever they want, including the Steam Deck. But Valve probably thinks they can get Nintendo to publish on Steam. It wasn’t so long ago that Sony and Microsoft maintained exclusivility on their platforms. Valve doesn’t win anything allowing Dolphin on Steam, but it can potentially anger Nintendo.

nils ,

Nintendo sent them a DMCA takedown request for the Dolphin Steam page. So I don’t think we can blame Steam for wanting to stay out of legal trouble

mnemonicmonkeys ,

No. That is not at all what happened. No DMCA takedown notice was ever sent in this.

What happened is that Dolphin applied to go on Steam and announced that. Then Valve emailed Nintendo asking for permission. Nintendo said they didn’t want it on the store, pointed to parts of the DMCA which were not actually valid for a theoretical case, and Valve blocked Dolphin from going on Steam

nils ,

You’re right.

Sorry, I just heard somewhere Nintendo sent a DMCA notice and assumed it was right because that seems like a Nintendo thing to do.

jsnc , (edited )

Valve is already evil: they locked down their steam client (unacceptable in the times of GOG, and Epic Games) and allow developers to put DRM in their games. Outside of that they were the pioneers of digital gambling with CS:GO and TF2 and using anti-features as a way to entice people to purchase micro-transactions.

kittenbridgeasteroid ,

That’s likely in part due to the fact that they’d really like to he publicly traded.

moormaan ,

There is also the B Corp designation (short for Public Benefit Corporation) which allows a company to balance its responsibility towards the share holders with some other benefit it aims to provide where the share holders aren’t the (only) beneficiaries.

MeetInPotatoes ,

'You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain"

Dekthro ,

since I was raised on dialup and couldn’t block the phone line all that long.

That bit reminded me that my mom had a desktop application that takes messages for you when we were using the dial up.

seitanic ,
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Google didn’t have a plan to keep from becoming evil. They just had a cute motto.

johnthedoe ,

Google was so exciting. Gmail especially.

We were so keen to ditch yahoo messenger and msn as soon as facebook messenger came out too.

Now it all sucks.

SlimeKnight , in Happened twice already

Sounds like an absolute win to me.

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