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apfelwoiSchoppen , to news in Donald Trump speech shooting: Gunshots heard at president’s rally – latest news
@apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world avatar

Christ. Now I’m envisioning his future campaign speeches. “They try to shoot me down, I am an immortal.”

snooggums ,
@snooggums@midwest.social avatar

immoral

Plum ,
@Plum@lemmy.world avatar

Immortan.

zarkanian ,
@zarkanian@sh.itjust.works avatar

Immotan-gelo.

Imgonnatrythis ,

Campaign? Doesn’t really need to even campaign anymore after this. Maybe he will mention it at a state of the confedarcy talk or something. These are such shitty times.

HappycamperNZ ,

Sweet, shoot again

iquanyin ,

we’ll never hear the end of it.

UltraGiGaGigantic ,

We will hear it for another 10 years when he finally has his hamburger heart attack.

enleeten , to news in Donald Trump speech shooting: Gunshots heard at president’s rally – latest news

You know it was Rudy

cabron_offsets ,

Couldn’t be, he’s too busy selling handies behind the Wendy’s dumpster.

Davel23 , to news in Donald Trump speech shooting: Gunshots heard at president’s rally – latest news

Just looks like tourists enjoying a day out to me.

DogPeePoo , (edited ) to news in Donald Trump speech shooting: Gunshots heard at president’s rally – latest news

“WAIT WAIT WAIT!”

<jerks giant cock in the air>

This guy raped 13 year old Katie Johnson.

This is the campaign’s false flag response to change the narrative about project 2025 hitting the fan. Wag the dog.

JimmyBigSausage , to news in Donald Trump speech shooting: Gunshots heard at president’s rally – latest news

Fake fake fake

FlyingSquid , to news in Donald Trump speech shooting: Gunshots heard at president’s rally – latest news
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Mr Trump could be seen ducking for cover behind the lectern.

I like attempted assassination victims that don’t duck for cover.

clay_pidgin ,

It’ll take more than that to stop a Bull Moose!

ameancow , (edited )

I wonder how much we’re going to hear about the poor person who got shot in the head right behind him, or if they’re just incidental margin notes in history, overshadowed by the big WWE media theater that is Trump. Reports are saying at least two crowd members have died.

edit: the family of the victim has given an update that Trump hasn’t even attempted to reach out to them. And also, the guy was an avid nutcase, nazi and racist. The world won’t be worse-off, we can sleep easy.

FlyingSquid ,
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Oh Trump will absolutely bring them up at every single rally to froth up the crowd. Because he may be the martyr they care about the most, but the martyrs who actually died will be great ammunition (I can’t think of a more appropriate word, sorry) to rile up the crowd.

pivot_root ,

That is assuming there is another rally, and today’s incident wasn’t just the catalyst for a Jan 6 sequel. Knowing his supporters, I’m not holding my breath, unfortunately.

FlyingSquid ,
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Considering the number of people here claiming this was Trump staging a false flag, I am absolutely certain there are a similarly large number of people on the right saying this was Biden trying to assassinate Trump and something must be done. So I hope not.

pivot_root ,

Unfortunately, the number is likely going to be a lot higher.

I’m pretty sure a lot of the people here are (or at least me) are being joking/sarcastic about the false flag conspiracy. For us Lemmings, there’s no emotional stake in these events, whereas his supporters will be angered over anyone even attempting to kill their fascist idol…

FlyingSquid ,
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I’m pretty sure a lot of the people here are (or at least me) are being joking/sarcastic about the false flag conspiracy.

I’m not sure of that at all, especially when emotions are running high.

I’m not absolutely discounting the possibility they they somehow found some schlub to die in a fake assassination attempt, but I’m also not going to come up with conspiracy theories until there’s been some time to go over evidence and analyze the situation.

pivot_root ,

I’m also not going to come up with conspiracy theories until there’s been some time to go over evidence and analyze the situation.

Respect for that. It’s a reasonable and rational response to today’s series of events, despite the temptations of role-playing as a conspiracy theorist to escape from having to think about the hypothetical consequences of said events.

samus12345 ,
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Republicans have blamed Joe Biden for the attempted assassination tonight, accusing the president of whipping up opposition to Donald Trump.

JD Vance, who is one of the frontrunners to be Trump’s running mate, said: “Today is not just some isolated incident. The central premise of the Biden campaign is that President Donald Trump is an authoritarian fascist who must be stopped at all costs.”

“That rhetoric led directly to President Trump’s attempted assassination,” he added.

Mike Collins, a Republican congressman from Georgia, said: “The Republican District Attorney in Butler County, PA, should immediately file charges against Joseph R. Biden for inciting an assassination.”

He also tweeted that Mr Biden “sent the orders”.

grue ,

All I’m hearing is that they think Biden told the truth and used the power the Heritage Foundation SCOTUS explicitly gave him, and now they’re inexplicably butthurt about it.

Quetzalcutlass , (edited )

Prosecuting the president for stochastic terrorism? That’s a precedent they really don’t want to set with Trump as their candidate.

That they are pushing it is evidence they don’t think they’ll have to follow the rule of law if they win.

zarkanian ,
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That they are pushing it is evidence they don’t think they’ll have to follow the rule of law if they win.

They won’t. The Supreme Court already determined that.

HappycamperNZ ,

Thats fine, isn’t Biden permitted to assassinate people while in office with immunity?

zarkanian ,
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Knowing his supporters, I’m not holding my breath, unfortunately.

When you’re huffing your own farts so much, that isn’t a good idea.

oatscoop ,

Fascists love their “martyrs for the cause”.

NuXCOM_90Percent ,

I just hope they were crucial to Project 2025

Xtallll ,
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They chose to go to a rally to support a man who wants to be a “dictator on day one” they made their choice.

mbp ,
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Wasn’t one an eight year old?

Xtallll ,
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I think you’re thinking of a school shooting.

JimSamtanko , to news in Donald Trump speech shooting: Gunshots heard at president’s rally – latest news

This is what wins him the election.

JimmyBigSausage ,

A faked shooting? Real Secret Service would have him protected on the ground not screen hugging him so he could pump his fist for the cameras with fake blood cap popped on his ear.

JimSamtanko ,

Yup.

thoro ,

An antended at the rally and the shooter were killed per the AP

Burstar ,
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As much as I hate to admit this, it wasn’t a fake shooting. The ‘acting’ was way too good to be faked. The mid-word ‘stung in the ear’ confusion slowly followed by the realization of what happened and the clumsy collapse to the ground are just too believable to think it wasn’t real. That said, whether it was a false flag or not is another story.

pivot_root ,

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  • Thteven ,
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    I like candidates that don’t get shot at for being pieces of shit.

    JimSamtanko ,

    Won’t matter at this point. Even if it turns out to be faked. It won’t matter. His base is that fucking stupid. The idea has been planted and it doesn’t even have to be true.

    This just got him elected.

    nickhammes ,

    There’s a lot of time, a lot can happen, but this just justified a lot of the nonsense narratives the right wing has been trying to push.

    I really hope you’re wrong, but it certainly helps him.

    JimSamtanko ,

    I’ve never hoped to be wrong more I don’t think, but I fear now that the Cletus brigade is going to go on a fucking rampage.

    Innocent lives are gong to be lost over this.

    kalleboo ,

    a lot can happen

    OK someone quick shoot at and near-miss Biden as well so the martyrdom evens out!!11

    pivot_root ,

    This is what wins him the election insurrection.

    FTFY. He called on his rabid supporters to “fight.” I think we all know what that means.

    Several secret service agents surrounded him as he put his hand up and appeared to shout “fight” to his supporters who began cheering.

    JimSamtanko ,

    Yep. Many innocent people will die because of this.

    UltraGiGaGigantic ,

    I’m more worried about the nutzos trying to “defend trump”.

    Oh and First Past the Post voting artificially limiting our options putting us into this situation.

    aramis87 , to news in Donald Trump speech shooting: Gunshots heard at president’s rally – latest news

    Ex-prez, please.

    chemical_cutthroat , to news in Donald Trump speech shooting: Gunshots heard at president’s rally – latest news
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    Biden testing his Presidential Immunity.

    Daxtron2 ,

    Just a little off the top

    jas0n ,

    Official Act™

    Qli ,

    Just a warning shot

    AmbiguousProps , to news in Donald Trump speech shooting: Gunshots heard at president’s rally – latest news
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    Yawweee877h444 ,

    Looks like one of the bullets actually got him in the ear, as he grabs is ear right away. I thought it was from him getting tackled down by the secret service.

    So the shooter was almost a good shot. So close.

    AngryCommieKender ,

    According to TMZ a secret service agent said the bullet hit his teleprompter and glass shrapnel hit his ear.

    tmz.com/…/donald-trump-appear-shot-pennsylvania-r…

    ABCDE ,

    Was the teleprompter behind him?

    AngryCommieKender ,

    No clue. I would assume it was in front, I’m merely attempting to spread actual information, unfortunately it is from a less than reputable source, but looking at their timeline, they seem to be covering all possible snippets of information from the scene, without speculating on the motives of the shooter.

    ABCDE ,

    If it was in front, then it would not have hit his right ear as he was looking to the left.

    AngryCommieKender ,

    Ricochets happen with shrapnel.

    ABCDE ,

    Around his head?

    username_unavailable ,
    westyvw , to news in Donald Trump speech shooting: Gunshots heard at president’s rally – latest news

    Fake news. He will make up anything for attention.

    ampedwolfman , to news in Donald Trump speech shooting: Gunshots heard at president’s rally – latest news

    I see blood but I don’t see a wound. Are they really going to try and pass that the perfect hole there is a bullet hole? Wouldn’t a gun shot wound there take a bigger portion of the ear?

    knightly ,
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    Depends on the hit. There’s not much blood so it might just be a graze.

    snooggums ,
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    Probably bounced off his thick skull.

    Captain_CapsLock OP ,

    Depends on the round. A lot of factors come into play on gunshot wounds, including velocity, mass, resistance, angle. There is even some possibility that the round just barely missed, but the displacement of air is actually what broke skin.

    teft ,
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    There is even some possibility that the round just barely missed, but the displacement of air is actually what broke skin.

    That is an urban legend. I’ve been missed by some pretty large caliber rounds in war and I’ve seen some pretty large caliber rounds barely miss people. No damage is done. You have to make contact with the round (or vice versa) for it to do damage.

    AplasticAenima ,

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  • teft , (edited )
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    Guy I agree his account history looks a little sus, but isn’t that a little bit of the pot calling the kettle black? You have 3 comments since December.

    See below.

    AplasticAenima ,

    I don’t comment a lot, but I have way more comments than that.

    teft ,
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    Ah I see why, I had the main few communities you post in blocked. My bad. I rescind my comment. Note to everyone else: Check histories in a private tab so you can see even communities that you have blocked.

    Captain_CapsLock OP ,

    I’m literally just a dude. I usually don’t have time to post, and haven’t really felt the need to comment, but I had a rare day off where i felt like I could actually take part in conversation.

    conditional_soup ,

    Paramedic here. All parts of the head are very vascular, and so any head injury at all bleeds fantastically. If the top of his ear got clipped, that would be enough to produce that much blood.

    monkeyslikebananas2 , to news in Donald Trump speech shooting: Gunshots heard at president’s rally – latest news

    I suppose we need even more guns.

    Tire ,

    This wouldn’t have happened if Trump had a gun on him smh

    AsslessChaps , (edited )

    Isn’t he banned being a felon

    Drusas ,

    He sure is.

    otp ,

    Isn’t he banned being a feeling?

    Oh, he’s More Than a Feeling

    neidu2 , (edited )

    Technically not a felon until sentencing.

    So in the mean time, we can call him:
    Presumptive felon nominee
    Felony frontrunner
    Felon elect

    goferking0 ,

    Or everyone else in the crowd had one

    SatansMaggotyCumFart ,

    If he was wearing armor made of guns he wouldn’t be bleeding.

    CaptainBasculin ,

    Practical solution for a practical problem

    Squorlple ,
    @Squorlple@lemmy.world avatar

    After giving due remarks, could Biden sign an executive order for sweeping gun control and name it after Trump and present this incident as the impetus?

    ABCDE ,

    Genius.

    grue ,

    Disarming the resistance right before a fascist takeover is not the genius move you think it is.

    UltraGiGaGigantic ,

    Democrats_IRL

    FireTower ,
    @FireTower@lemmy.world avatar

    No the executive can’t create laws.

    TransplantedSconie , to news in Donald Trump speech shooting: Gunshots heard at president’s rally – latest news

    Guess some of those 2nd Ammendment guys might be “trying to do something about it” eh Donnie?

    This is what you get when you preach hate 24/7. This isn’t a gameshow.

    JimSamtanko ,

    Well, it was probably staged, so….

    Botzo , (edited )

    Absolutely. False flag for sure.

    Edit: /s. Half of you are way too serious.

    MeekerThanBeaker ,

    I dunno. I saw the footage. If the guy from Home Alone 2 was acting, he’d be a lot more blatant.

    Plus, wouldn’t secret service be in on it? I bet you they can’t stand the guy either.

    meleecrits ,
    @meleecrits@lemmy.world avatar

    From my understanding, his service detail are all true believers. Remember, most LEOs and the like are very right wing.

    MeekerThanBeaker ,

    Well, that may be true. According to AP, the gunman and an attendee are dead. So… not staged.

    AmbiguousProps ,

    At least two confirmed dead:

    Butler County District attorney told the Associated Press (AP) that a shooter was dead and that a rally attendee had also been killed.

    SatansMaggotyCumFart ,

    Unless it was a blood capsule or something the guy is too much of a pussy to pull something like this off.

    JimSamtanko ,

    Blood capsule or something similar.

    DogPeePoo ,

    “There was ketchup dripping down his cheeks”

    —Cassidy Hutchinson

    DarkCloud ,

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    NotAnotherLemmyUser ,

    Plus an image of some blood on the bleacher from a live stream that kept running:

    imgur.com/a/V0SyhKE

    foggy ,

    You recall that he wanted to rip off his suit and display a Superman logo after beating covid, right?

    Id say it’s on brand.

    Balinares ,

    The bullet is totally a crisis actor, you can also see it in that one Reagan clip. /s

    JimSamtanko ,

    What bullet?

    KingJalopy ,

    Can be seen in the JFK “assassination” as well. Dude gets around.

    rambling_lunatic ,

    x.com/merylkornfield/status/1812263916497506711?s…

    According to a Washington Post reporter that talked with the district attorney, an audience member and the shooter are dead. Not a stunt.

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  • JimSamtanko ,

    Yeah, SS would have stormed him out of the area and into a safe place within moments of that shit. There’s no way they’d have cleared the area. No one would have known if there were a second or third shooter.

    Now they’re saying someone is dead and they got the shooter?

    maynarkh ,

    I had to do a double take on that abbreviation

    JimSamtanko ,

    Same meaning at this point.

    maynarkh ,

    Schutzstaffel, as in protective service would probably be a better description of what they actually do I guess

    Secret service better fits sg like the CIA

    teft ,
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    Right? USSS is the proper abbreviation for the United States Secret Service.

    pivot_root ,

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  • JimSamtanko ,

    Again, I wouldn’t be surprised if they just shot a random person, claimed they were the shooter and wrapped this up.

    He is an abhorrently cruel person. And those that follow him are as well. None of this is outlandish enough to not be true.

    teft ,
    @teft@lemmy.world avatar

    Also right as steam was picking up about Project 2025.

    58008 ,
    @58008@lemmy.world avatar

    The shooter and an audience member are dead. How Machiavellian do you think these people are that they’d kill two people for a PR stunt?

    formergijoe ,

    Yeah I too thought it was staged until bodies showed up. Anyone continuing to say this was staged at this point feels very Alex Jones.

    rigatti ,
    @rigatti@lemmy.world avatar

    I don’t think it was staged, but I also don’t think they would give a shit if other people died during a staged shooting.

    formergijoe ,

    I agree, but I don’t think Donny is brave enough to allow lethal ammo to stage anything.

    rigatti ,
    @rigatti@lemmy.world avatar

    Also true.

    cabron_offsets ,

    Honestly: do you think they have regard for people’s lives? Not that I think this is staged.

    58008 ,
    @58008@lemmy.world avatar

    They’d surely have regard for Trump’s life, no? I mean “they” shot him in the ear. An inch closer and he’d likely be dead.

    afraid_of_zombies ,

    Did they shot him in the ear?

    rottingleaf ,

    What? Are you fucking delusional? I understand brown people are not really people for you guys there, but do you realize how many people indirectly and directly “these” people have killed in Syria alone, counting only cases of being simply too lazy?

    Killing two people for fucking presidency? You think it’s unrealistic?

    Anyway, the answer to the question “how Machiavellian” is “fully” for everybody participating in politics, because we are still homo sapiens and our time is just as Machiavellian as Machiavelli’s time, there are no naive people there, and if there are no poisonings and assassinations left and right there, that’s for the same reason only there are no nukings left and right on the map, not because they are moral.

    58008 ,
    @58008@lemmy.world avatar

    I understand brown people are not really people for you guys

    What the fuck… ?

    How am I delusional for not thinking this was staged? The moving parts required for it to be staged are an order of magnitude more complex and voluminous than it just being a lone nut with an AR-15. Unless you have some actual solid verifiable evidence that calls the boring reality of the situation into question, I’d maybe dial down the rhetoric a tad.

    rottingleaf ,

    Not that, just that it’s improbable because of lives soent

    afraid_of_zombies ,

    Child border seperation policy

    SaintWacko ,

    I’m just sick at how much of a coup this is for the Trump campaign. That photo is going to do so much work

    NotAnotherLemmyUser ,

    One of the attendees in the bleachers was hit:
    imgur.com/a/V0SyhKE

    News is also saying that 2 are dead: news.sky.com/…/shots-fired-at-donald-trump-rally-…

    Butler County District attorney told the Associated Press (AP) that a shooter was dead and that a rally attendee had also been killed.

    This doesn’t sound like it was staged.

    afraid_of_zombies ,

    that a shooter was dead

    In other words he can’t be questioned

    ameancow ,

    Why?

    I mean it might have been, but with the modern insanity around politics and guns and violence, and the general unhinged nature of the population generally, it’s equally or more likely to be some deranged person with a gun. WHY for the love of god add to the chaos by speculating without any evidence yet? Does it help?

    JimSamtanko , (edited )

    Because speculation is all we have with someone like Trump who seemingly failed upward with his every move. Do you think we’re going to ever know what really happened? This shit was clean. Despite the fact that he was allowed to stand and shake a defiant fist moments later, without knowing if there were more shooters. How did his secret service know the area was secure? In reality, he would have been rushed to safety within a minute of the shooting.

    Yeah. Here’s what speculation allows for;

    • Gets found guilty 34 times over? Gets more followers.

    • Gets found guilty of sexual assault. Gets more followers

    • Gets tied to Epstein. Gets more followers

    • Gets shot at. Wins an election.

    There is no stopping that fat fuck because theres no limit to American ignorance.

    anon_8675309 ,

    My worry is that some lunatic right winger is trying to push us to civil war.

    JimSamtanko ,

    We’re already there. They just haven’t started the American Violence™ phase yet. Right now we’re in the American Saber Rattling™ phase.

    iquanyin ,

    i keep thinking of that too…

    ChillPenguin ,

    Don’t stoop to that level. Assume it was real. Base your conclusions on evidence. Not conspiracies.

    NaibofTabr ,

    reap what you sow

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