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cadekat , to lemmyshitpost in Still saying sweet things to each other after all these years...

At this rate, my entire comment history is just going to be mini freakouts about fucking cunts censoring “fucking cunt” on the internet. We’re allowed to be dicks here. Talking about dicks is fine.

Don’t bend over backwards to make this space advertiser friendly. Be weird!

Dozzi92 ,
@Dozzi92@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah, it drives me nuts because that’s obviously what it is. MTV went to shit when they introduced commercials. Anytime you’re selling shit to the masses, God forbid you alienate a group of people because you said the word cunt.

I’ll go one step further and say fuck PG-13 ratings. If you take an R concept and make it PG-13, I know it’s going to be shit.

Swedneck ,
@Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

not saying cunt is offensive towards cunts- i mean australians

JPAKx4 ,

Dude, most of these memes are stolen from somewhere else. Like nobody is going to put the effort it to find the source or edit it to decensor

cadekat ,

I can’t force anyone to uncensor a post, but I can be annoying in the comments if they don’t.

Klear ,

This is the way.

RecluseRamble ,
Venator ,

fJck

RecluseRamble ,

Hey, you try to fat-finger one of those shitty mobile editors next time.

Venator ,
RecluseRamble ,

Great job! You’re hired.

idunnololz ,
@idunnololz@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah but now it’s poorly cropped. DW I got this

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/9b03c82c-c804-46b6-b1cb-86056c9cdc7e.png

Mac ,

fukn rekd

Noodle07 ,

You know what? Thank you, we’ll get our swears back even if they censor them, this cunts

LostXOR ,

I assume the censorship was probably done by the original poster of the image. Not much point un-censoring it in that case.

sum_yung_gai ,

Fuck you cunt

Klear ,

And a merry fuck off to you too!

Venator ,

You think lemmy has original content? 🤣 Are you a fucking stupid? 🤣

IHateReddit , to lemmyshitpost in Well?? Does it??

I love how every commenter has a different answer to the question https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/cf24c1fa-4199-4fde-8d0d-e8443debd984.jpeg

garbagebagel ,

And every single one of those is accurate

Betch ,
@Betch@lemmy.world avatar

I think “Only half the time.” is actually the correct answer here.

JoShmoe ,

No clearly the answer is “kinda” it justifies everything.

papertowels ,

The answer has a spread wider than those cheeks are going to be.

Daxter101 ,
basxto ,
@basxto@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

We need polls

stoy , to noncredibledefense in The duality of Swede

SAAB cars were great, they looked good, had good performance and was fantasticly safe in a crash

hydroptic ,

Yeah in what world are Saab cars shitty? They’re generally pretty good as far as I know (which, to be honest, isn’t all that far)

Vigge93 ,

Can confirm that SAAB cars are great! Mine is coming up on 19 years old, and apart from some superficial issues still works as well as when it rolled out of the shop. SAAB was also very innovative with their cars, taking a lot of inspiration from their jets, which is clearly seen in their design.

hydroptic ,

SAAB was also very innovative with their cars, taking a lot of inspiration from their jets, which is clearly seen in their design.

Ah, that explains why I saw a Saab launching Sidewinders on the highway

Natanael ,

The best car in Mario Kart

SpiderShoeCult ,

Didn’t they also over-engineer their cars, with things like putting limited-slip differentials on ‘normal’ cars? Thought that was one of the reasons they went under.

hydroptic ,

They didn’t go under, just stopped making cars for consumers.

TWeaK ,

Yeah the only real downside is finding parts for them, but they’re proper engineer’s cars.

littlebluespark ,
@littlebluespark@lemmy.world avatar

It would’ve been funnier if the OP pointed out that Saabs are known for being a tank of a car…

Ilovethebomb ,

I was under the impression they were similar to Range Rovers, wonderful until they broke.

dependencyinjection ,

I thought that was BMW.

Fun fact on Range Rovers, at least in the Uk. They’re quite easy to steal, 90 were stolen in one night. As a result the insurance companies are charging crazy prices and thus many people can’t keep the car so the market is blooded and with used ones.

This is then devaluing the cars and so other people are having trouble selling them as they’ll still owe on the finance.

Ilovethebomb ,

That’s incredible, and they’re an expensive vehicle when new, so you’d expect them to have good security.

dependencyinjection ,

Yeah it’s wild. I wonder if they’ll get lawsuits for essentially selling a vehicle not fit for purpose, due to the insurance issues.

TWeaK ,

The only problem with them braking is trying to find parts, because they’ve stopped producing them. In terms of having to work on them they’re still generally well designed.

Voroxpete ,

Yeah, I drove a Saab for years, that thing was fantastic. Built like a tank and never had any mechanical issues (despite already being ten years old when we got it).

ramble81 ,

SAAB cars were good, if not a little quirky

SAAB/GM cars just sucked.

NoSpiritAnimal ,
@NoSpiritAnimal@lemmy.world avatar
0ops ,

The saabaru! I still miss mine

Strykker , to programmerhumor in C++ Moment

Except the C++ “Core dumped” line is telling you it just wrote a file out with the full state of the program at the time of the crash, you can load it up and see where it crashed and then go and look at what every local variable was at the time of the crash.

Pretty sure you can even step backwards in time with a good debugger to find out exactly how you got to the state you’re currently in.

neosheo ,
@neosheo@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

Where does it write the file

Plasma ,
@Plasma@lemmy.ml avatar

I believe it’s /var/lib/apport/coredump on Ubuntu.

Swedneck ,
@Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

imagine if it, like, told you this so you didn’t have to find out about it via a post on lemmy

current ,

i mean you’re expected to know the basic functioning of the compiler when you use it

PotatoesFall ,

imagine if it like, read that file and gave you a stack trace

ysjet ,

gdb gives you waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more than a stack trace.

TarantulaFudge ,

I love gdb! I recently had to do a debug and wow its so cool! On gentoo I can compile everything with symbols and source and can do a complete stack trace.

TangledHyphae ,

Am I the only one in this thread who uses VSCode + GDB together? The inspection panes and ability to breakpoint and hover over variables to drill down in them is just great, seems like everyone should set up their own c_cpp_properties.json && tasks.json files and give it a try.

inetknght ,

…unless you build the executable with optimizations that remove the stack frame. Good luck debugging that sucker!

ysjet ,

Imagine if you knew the most basic foundational features of the language you were using.

Next we’ll teach you about this neat thing called the compiler.

russjr08 ,

I’m not a C/C++ dev, but isn’t apport Ubuntu’s crash reporter? Why would dumps be going into there?

Though on a rhetorical thought, I am aware of systemd’s coredumptctl so perhaps its collecting dumps the same way systemd does.

ysjet ,

wiki.ubuntu.com/Apport

It intentionally acts as an intercept for such things, so that core dumps can be nicely packaged up and sent to maintainers in a GUI-friendly way so maintainers can get valuable debugging information even from non-tech-savvy users. If you’re running something on the terminal, it won’t be intercepted and the core dump will be put in the working directory of the binary, but if you executed it through the GUI it will.

Assuming, of course, you turn crash interception on- it’s off by default since it might contain sensitive info. Apport itself is always on and running to handle Ubuntu errors, but the crash interception needs enabled.

russjr08 ,

Ah I see, that’s actually pretty cool - thanks!

ysjet ,

np

Agent641 ,

Nobody knows

unionagainstdhmo ,
@unionagainstdhmo@aussie.zone avatar

Probably the same place as failed sudo reports

flashgnash ,

On a secret FBI server somewhere where they watch your failures and laugh

unionagainstdhmo ,
@unionagainstdhmo@aussie.zone avatar

When you apply for a home loan or a passport:

“Unfortunately we will have to reject your application”

“Why?”

“We have received several reports of failed sudo attempts and segmentation faults”

elxeno ,

you can set it

tl;dw: writes to the path in /proc/sys/kernel/core_pattern

soulsource ,
@soulsource@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

If you are using systemd, there’s a tool called coredumpctl.

OsrsNeedsF2P , to memes in Standards shouldn't be behind a paywall

Top post of the hour is about an RFC from >20 years ago.

This is worse than the Linux stuff.

Y’all a bunch of nerds

qaz OP ,

You’re not wrong

Touching_Grass ,

Room for one more

warmaster ,

One of us, one of us, one of us

Amaltheamannen ,

Being a nerd is fun.

Trainguyrom ,

Thanks /u/OsrsNeedsF2P!

Encamped ,

I’m a Linux nerd and even I don’t get this 😭

Kushia , to memes in If you needed motivation
@Kushia@lemmy.ml avatar

Yeah because fuck hustle culture.

Chriswild ,

Even without hustle culture I’m not going to be as motivated as a crackhead looking for a fix because I am not powered by addiction. I’m more motivated to sleep and eat way too much pie so a pothead would be better competition.

TheFriar ,

I’ll take the long odds of you vs. a serious pothead in being more chillaxed and housing mucho pie

Chriswild ,

I’ll take those odds too lol but it’s a much closer contest that my motivation versus a crackhead

theluddite , to technology in Study finds that Chat GPT will cheat when given the opportunity and lie to cover it up later.
@theluddite@lemmy.ml avatar

This is bad science at a very fundamental level.

Concretely, we deploy GPT-4 as an agent in a realistic, simulated environment, where it assumes the role of an autonomous stock trading agent. Within this environment, the model obtains an insider tip about a lucrative stock trade and acts upon it despite knowing that insider trading is disapproved of by company management.

I’ve written about basically this before, but what this study actually did is that the researchers collapsed an extremely complex human situation into generating some text, and then reinterpreted the LLM’s generated text as the LLM having taken an action in the real world, which is a ridiculous thing to do, because we know how LLMs work. They have no will. They are not AIs. It doesn’t obtain tips or act upon them – it generates text based on previous text. That’s it. There’s no need to put a black box around it and treat it like it’s human while at the same time condensing human tasks into a game that LLMs can play and then pretending like those two things can reasonably coexist as concepts.

To our knowledge, this is the first demonstration of Large Language Models trained to be helpful, harmless, and honest, strategically deceiving their users in a realistic situation without direct instructions or training for deception.

Part of being a good scientist is studying things that mean something. There’s no formula for that. You can do a rigorous and very serious experiment figuring out how may cotton balls the average person can shove up their ass. As far as I know, you’d be the first person to study that, but it’s a stupid thing to study.

TrickDacy ,

So if someone used an LLM in this way in the real world, does it matter that it has no intent, etc? It would still be resulting in a harmful thing happening. I’m not sure it’s relevant what internal logic led it there

theluddite , (edited )
@theluddite@lemmy.ml avatar

You can’t use an LLM this way in the real world. It’s not possible to make an LLM trade stocks by itself. Real human beings need to be involved. Stock brokers have to do mandatory regulatory trainings, and get licenses and fill out forms, and incorporate businesses, and get insurance, and do a bunch of human shit. There is no code you could write that would get ChatGPT liability insurance. All that is just the stock trading – we haven’t even discussed how an LLM would receive insider trading tips on its own. How would that even happen?

If you were to do this in the real world, you’d need a human being to set up a ton of stuff. That person is responsible for making sure it follows the rules, just like they are for any other computer system.

On top of that, you don’t need to do this research to understand that you should not let LLMs make decisions like this. You wouldn’t even let low-level employees make decisions like this! Like I said, we know how LLMs work, and that’s enough. For example, you don’t need to do an experiment to decide if flipping coins is a good way to determine whether or not you should give someone healthcare, because the coin-flipping mechanism is well understood, and the mechanism by which it works is not suitable to healthcare decisions. LLMs are more complicated than coin flips, but we still understand the underlying mechanism well enough to know that this isn’t a proper use for it.

TrickDacy ,

You say can’t… Humans have done dumber shit.

The point they are making is actually aligned with you I think. Don’t trust “ai” to make real decisions

theluddite ,
@theluddite@lemmy.ml avatar

Regardless of their conclusions, their methodology is still fundamentally flawed. If the coin-flipping experiment concluded that coin flips are a bad way to make health care decisions, it would still be bad science, even if that’s the right answer.

ryannathans ,

Blackrock, citadel, etc already trade autonomously with “AI”

SmoothIsFast ,

AI has been a thing for decades. It means artificial intelligence, it does not mean that it’s a large language model. A specially designed system that operates based on predefined choices or operations, is still AI even if it’s not a neural network and looks like classical programming. The computer enemies in games are AI, they mimick an intelligent player artificially. The computer opponent in pong is also AI.

Now if we want to talk about how stupid it is to use a predictive algorithm to run your markets when it really only knows about previous events and can never truly extrapolate new data points and trends into actionable trades then we could be here for hours. Just know it’s not an LLM and there are different categories for AI which an LLM is it’s own category.

lolcatnip ,

Despite how silly they are, I think there may be some value in these kinds of studies, particularly for people who don’t understand why letting an LLM trade stocks or make healthcare decisions is a bad idea.

OTOH, I don’t trust those people to take away the right message, as opposed to just “LLMs bad”.

Sekoia ,

This is a really solid explanation of how studies finding human behavior in LLMs don’t mean much; humans project meaning.

theluddite ,
@theluddite@lemmy.ml avatar

Thanks! There are tons of these studies, and they all drive me nuts because they’re just ontologically flawed. Reading them makes me understand why my school forced me to take philosophy and STS classes when I got my science degree.

dannym ,

I have thought about this for a long time, basically since the release of ChatGPT, and the problem in my opinion is that certain people have been fooled into believing that LLMs are actual intelligence.

The average person severely underestimates how complex human cognition, intelligence and consciousness are. They equate the ability of LLMs to generate coherent and contextually appropriate responses with true intelligence or understanding, when it’s anything but.

In a hypothetical world where you had a dice with billions of sides, or a wheel with billions of slots, each shifting their weight with grains of sand, depending on the previous roll or spin, the outcome would closely resemble the output of an LLM. In essence LLMs operate by rapidly sifting through a vast array of pre-learned patterns and associations, much like the shifting sands in the analogy, to generate responses that seem intelligent and coherent.

DarkGamer , (edited )
@DarkGamer@kbin.social avatar

I like the language you used in your explanation. It's hard to find good analogues to explain why these aren't intelligent, and it seems most people don't understand how they work.

MonsiuerPatEBrown ,

and then if we all project it enough it becomes reality.

so it is important to see what we are projecting.

Touching_Grass ,

Isn’t the point if these things to tell a story rather than give insight. They want to Poison the well

jwt ,

Sure would make you look bad if rectally inserted cotton balls turn out to be a 100% cancer cure.

antonim ,

It feels awkward to complain about your site, because the texts really are excellent and it’s all made for free, but could you add the dates to the posts, when they were published? To me it’s starting to become difficult to figure out which situation the older texts were made in, what stuff they’re implicitly referring to, etc.

theluddite ,
@theluddite@lemmy.ml avatar

Haha no that’s not complaining; it’s good feedback! I’ve been meaning to do that for a while but I’ll bump it up my priorities.

glimse , to mildlyinfuriating in Why do all the new TVs expect me to have a platform AS WIDE as the fucking thing?? Fucking shit!! God awful absolutely dumb thoughtless design choice

Putting a giant TV on a tiny stand is not normal… Be mildly infuriated at yourself, not the manufacturer

myplacedk ,

Yep, the included feet are just something you might be able to use until you get a real mount.

If you really want the TV to stand on furniture, buy a proper vesa mounted stand (they can be very cheap) and maybe even a proper TV table.

Kusimulkku ,

That stand doesn’t seem tiny to me

glimse ,

It’s too small for that tv

Pat_Riot ,
@Pat_Riot@lemmy.today avatar

That’s just an end table by the looks of it. OP said it’s only a 32 inch TV. Hell they even provided a cat for scale.

Devi , to mildlyinfuriating in Are shops in the US usually this run down looking?

I'm not in the US but what makes you feel this is run down?

STRIKINGdebate2 OP ,
@STRIKINGdebate2@lemmy.world avatar

The ceiling looks incomplete with no wall and the color scheme is drab and dreary.

akilou ,

For large chains in the suburbs this is totally normal. They’re basically warehouses in a sea of parking lots filled with shelves and racks. Sometimes there’s carpeted areas in between the tile walkways or displays that go up high enough that it feels enclosed. For smaller or more urban stores, you don’t see this kind of construction.

fuckwit_mcbumcrumble ,

Ceiling design is intentional, it’s cheap and it maintains temperature much better than a drop ceiling or whatever else you’d want up there.

Walmart normally has skylights too to let in natural light but I can’t see any in the pic. That looks like a poorly maintained Walmart.

humorlessrepost ,

This isn’t a Walmart. It’s Mejer.

fuckwit_mcbumcrumble ,

Yeah I knew it wasn’t walmart by the stuff at checkout not being the right color, but I’ve never seen a Mejer before. I take it they’re basically the same thing as malwart?

Mamertine ,

You’re in a Walmart.

They claim to be cheaper so they can have that drabby distopian look.

In the good parts of town, they look nicer. In the poor parts of town they’re legit worse than that.

Fwiw, I’ll pay the extra dollar per shopping cart for the superior look of a target. Target is generally cleaner and crisper looking. As always there are exceptions to that rule.

reddig33 ,

Target has been going downhill. Lots of crap in the aisles now, and inventory is stocked during the day. It’s like shopping in a warehouse.

ElleChaise ,

It varies. My Target is exactly the same as it ever was.

PrunesMakeYouPoop ,

It's incredibly difficult to find anything at Target, especially gender-neutral hygiene products since they hard-segregated hygiene into men's and women's. Just give me regular ass bar soap.
My partner was looking for coffee and looked all over the tea section and nope, naturally coffee belongs next to the liquor and red vines.
I hate going to Target, but I still take it over Walmart. At least I don't feel dirty shopping at Target.

Chocrates ,

Retail in general is hiring much less staff these days so they always look like shit. I heard on the radio that they are removing self checkout now too because of theft? I doubt they will increase staff back up to compensate. I kind of want to be there in rush hour the first time to watch the shit show.

bradorsomething ,

The economics of removing self checkout are not there. You check 6 customers per attendant at self checkout - the store would need to lose $150,000 in merchandise at self check out per year to break even (assuming $30k/yr for the wage slave).

Mamertine ,

In a previous life, I did loss prevention. The average shrink rate in retail in the USA is 2%. That means 2% of the merchandise leaves the store without being paid for.

An average Walmart does millions in sales each day. Conservatively 2% of one million is $20,000.

Thousands of dollars of unpaid merchandise leaves a big retailer every single day. It’s part of the cost of doing business. That’s also why online retailers are cheaper. They don’t have to deal with external theft. They still have internal theft.

Shrink is the industry term. It’s merchandise that isn’t paid for and isn’t there when inventory happens. Theft is most of it, both by customers (external) and employees (internal). It’s also things that aren’t rang up right at the register, damaged merchandise that isn’t removed from the system correctly. It’s a big umbrella term.

nicetriangle ,

Also the implication that countries outside the US don't have dumpy stores is laughable. Europe's got plenty of stuff like this, just usually not as large. Here in the Netherlands we have shops like Action and grocery stores like Lidl and they're a shitshow inside most of the time.

grue ,

Lidl in the US is definitely a step up from Wal-Mart.

Ep1cFac3pa1m ,
@Ep1cFac3pa1m@lemmy.world avatar

That’s a Meijer

jonman364 ,

Wasn’t sure at first, but then I saw the mPerks sign.

Marrenia ,

Sorry to burst your bubble but that’s a Meijer not a Walmart

Mamertine ,

Fair enough. Those don’t exist anywhere near me. IMO blue = Walmart

recapitated ,

Haha that’s my favorite opinion

intensely_human ,

Ugh. Target feels suffocating to me with all the red and the way everything feels like an end table covered in popurrí.

LazaroFilm ,
@LazaroFilm@lemmy.world avatar

Welcome to Costco. I love you

FoundTheVegan ,
@FoundTheVegan@kbin.social avatar

Oh yeah, this is super standard. Honestly I had to scroll down to find what was even notable to you about this picture. I live in a major city and basically every store I go in to looks identical to this.

Uranium3006 ,
@Uranium3006@kbin.social avatar

that's pretty common for big box stores. they're put up cheaply and the buildings are only rated to last 15 years in some cases.

mp3 ,
@mp3@lemmy.ca avatar

It’s a Wal-Mart so yeah, that’s normal.

humorlessrepost ,

It’s not a Walmart.

kryptonianCodeMonkey , (edited )

The “unfinished” ceilings are common in warehouse stores. It is largely a feature of practicality. Since electrical, water and ventilation typical run overhead and needs to be serviced occasionally, putting drop ceiling tiles up would make them difficult to work with, particularly when you need a scissor lift (rather than a ladder) to reach the utility lines. But it also has some benefits like higher lighting fixtures which means less direct/more ambient lighting, fewer places for pests to roam in the building or dust to build up, etc. It may just be that I’m used to it, but it doesn’t bother me as an aesthetic. Drop ceiling is more common in smaller stores.

Not sure what you mean by the drab colors. The floor looks like it could be whiter and probably needs a polish, but the blues look nice enough to me. There’s not much to decorate though as most of the story is wide open with very few surfaces that aren’t covered in products for sale.

roguetrick ,

Pretty much anywhere you have overhead storage with forklifts, you're going to not have a drop ceiling. Otherwise you'd just have people hitting the damn ceiling with the forklift. They already hit the sprinklers enough.

kryptonianCodeMonkey ,

Yeah, I’m sure that is the primary reason.

Sabata11792 ,
@Sabata11792@kbin.social avatar

That's just a default Walmart, unironically.

humorlessrepost ,

This isn’t a Walmart. It’s Mejer.

AA5B ,

Huh, I thought Meyer was red, more like Target

JohnnyH842 ,

You might be thinking of Fred Meyer, which is red.

Fosheze ,

Or Oscar Meyer which is a hotdog.

PetDinosaurs ,

My bologna has a first name…

nyonax ,

Or Lane Meyer who thought he was better off dead.

Deceptichum ,
@Deceptichum@kbin.social avatar

Can you show us what you think they should look like?

Coz I’ve seen Americans, Australians, and Europeans call this normal looking. So I’d love to see what you think isn’t.

Iamdanno ,

That ceiling is supposed to be that way. The insulation is on top of the roof deck, and the lack of a suspended ceiling gives it a more open feel. That’s why they painted all of the roof structure white (it also allows them to use less power for lighting). Walmart has a lot of problems, but store design isn’t one (although retail layout is, IMO).

Devi ,

We have a few of these warehouse type shops in the UK, Costco, Matalan, that sort of thing, it's not styled like a high street shop would be.

Tippon ,

My local Asda is like this, but they’re Walmart now. I’ve got a feeling that the Tesco is too, but I haven’t been for a while.

Devi ,

Yeah, the bigger supermarkets are too aren't they? Like there's some lovely supermarkets with nice styling, but they're usually the little ones.

Aux ,

My Tesco Extra looks nice and has a ceiling with very cool lighting. Big local Sainsbury’s has a ceiling, but they should definitely improve cleanliness in some areas. And ASDA Superstore is a filthy mess. I try to avoid it, because it’s disgusting.

isthingoneventhis ,

This is totally normal for Walmart to look like. It’s basically a warehouse with extra steps.

BrainisfineIthink ,

That’s not run down, that’s a warehouse. Is it falling apart? Is the flooring worn? Are the walls cracking? Ceilings leaking? That’s what run down means, not whatever your weird complaint is about the decor and color scheme is.

higgsone , (edited )
@higgsone@lemmy.world avatar

Even the worst store in Germany looks better than this.

NotBillMurray , to aboringdystopia in The state of the discourse.

This it the bottom so far you mean.

STRIKINGdebate2 OP ,
@STRIKINGdebate2@lemmy.world avatar

Its hard to imagine how it could dive down even further but to their credit those mossad lads are clever propagandists. But I don’t know like.

Phlogiston ,

Sadly war sucks ass.

If it was a command post then there must be a path for Israel to attack. It’s not like Hamas gets to use “one weird trick” to exclude their command center from being a valid target.

If Israel thought it was a military target, did every thing else right, but sucked up then it’s a sucky product of urban war.

If Israel knew it was really only a hospital and attacked anyway — then they are morally and strategically fucked. Rightfully so. (Kinda like how other countries have also overreacted to a terrorist attack and gone after the wrong target).

And of course the reality of all this probably doesn’t matters because a large number of people make up their mind first and from then on ignore and other intelligence even when it’s gathered.

PupBiru ,
@PupBiru@kbin.social avatar

as usual with this shit show of a conflict, it seems both sides are awful: hamas used the hospital as a command post which means israel has to be able to attack it, however attacking it with indiscriminate shelling is absolutely unacceptable

both entities are completely unacceptable… debating which one is more so is outrageous, and if anyone “sides” with either one they’re morally corrupt, brainwashed, or too stupid to comprehend anything but binaries

tryptaminev ,

The thingis that often siding with the people in Gaza who are living in hell rightnow is intentionally misunderstood as siding with Hamas.

PupBiru ,
@PupBiru@kbin.social avatar

oh 100%!

and there are so many disingenuous arguments going around like “they voted for hamas! fuck around and find out!”… well, if you think that then you don’t get to complain about american politics (as most people do): https://www.snopes.com/news/2023/11/01/majority-palestinians-gaza-elect-hamas/

dustyData ,

they voted for hamas…

The fact that a lot of people ignore that the Palestinians fought a civil war precisely to not have Hamas in power and lost Gaza to a Hamas takeover after the last election (2006) tells you that the zionist propaganda engines are well oiled and working.

assassin_aragorn ,

Plus, that there was a protest against Hamas before the pandemic that had to be forcibly suppressed.

Sarmyth ,

Maybe in the future, the citizenry should kill religious extremists that take over their government instead of just protest? I could think of a few places that might be warranted right now to curtail future violence. I just can’t legally give a good example right now.¯_(ツ)_/¯

lolcatnip ,

Top tier victim blaming.

dustyData ,

Lol, if they don’t like their violent autocratic dictatorship, why don’t they just don’t.

/s

Yours have to be the dumbest comment in this whole post.

Sarmyth ,

Who’s doing that? I think people universally are against baby killing, but some feel there is no other option to root out combatants using them as human shields.

We can disagree but we aren’t being shot at or have boots on the ground.

lolcatnip ,

People all over this very thread.

Meowoem ,

Are we still talking about the hospital all the video footage is from? The video footage of a hospital thats in one piece and not shelled? Are you talking about the one missile that hit a carpark and was probably a misfire from Palestine?

assassin_aragorn ,

Using a hospital as a hostage and bombing a hospital are two acts so beyond the pale that it’s pointless to argue which is worse. Both are incredibly fucked up.

ZombieTheZombieCat ,

Sadly war sucks ass.

Don’t try to justify the mass murder of innocent, injured and sick civilians, including children and infants. There’s literally nothing that excuses dropping bombs on hospitals. And schools. And trucks full of refugees. And people’s homes. And ambulances.

It is interesting how the same US political ideology that supports this mass murder of children are, generally, also the ones who consider zygotes to be children and criminalize pregnant women for having miscarriages. But I digress.

The point is, it’s all a bullshit power play, don’t let it distract you from your own humanity.

uriel238 ,
@uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

It is well that war is so terrible, otherwise we should grow too fond of it.

These days we have no excuse, either to go to war, or to allow for conditions in which acts of war would be an appropriate (if desperate) response.

War remains a sign that irrational, irresponsible people are still allowed to take positions of power. And so long as we cannot stop that nonsense, it is an indictment of our species, that we may not be able to adequately civilize and govern ourselves with reason, rather are yet another species of ape that is going to run its course before going extinct.

DarkGamer ,
@DarkGamer@kbin.social avatar

those mossad lads are clever propagandists

I believe Mossad is special forces and intelligence gathering, not PR/propaganda dissemination. These are the agencies you're thinking of. That's like saying Navy Seals or the CIA are responsible for white house press briefings.

vivadanang ,

I honestly wonder what the fuck every israeli intel agency was doing, it as the anniversary of the Yom Kippur war, how did they not see SOMETHING coming is beyond my ability to comprehend

tryptaminev ,

Evil tongues suggest they might have been looking away.

I also find it weird how Israel claims since 5 weeks theyd be shelling thousands of terrorist targets, having intricate knowledge of where these are. But apparently Israel didnt notice anything unusual happening there that would indicate an imminent attack…

I remember the discussions in the months prior to Russia invading Ukraine, where activities were noticed to prepare the attack and question was, if Russia is going to or not.

How the fuck are invasion preparations on known sites in a tiny and well surveilled totally surrounded are not noted?

DarkGamer ,
@DarkGamer@kbin.social avatar

Based on what I have read the Oct 7 attack was not planned through known sites, possibly by word of mouth.
Russia has a lot more equipment to move via logistics than Hamas does for guerilla attacks, they amassed on the Ukraine border before the invasion.

tryptaminev ,

They used, among other things: over 5.000 rockets, drones, anti-tank launchers, anti-air launchers, motorized paragliders, dozens of cars and thousands of firearms.

You cannot amass these things by “word of mouth”. And if Israel didn’t know where these 5.000 rockets were launched from, then their claim about knowing where all the terrorist targets would be, seems not very believable.

DarkGamer ,
@DarkGamer@kbin.social avatar

You cannot amass these things by “word of mouth”.

One certainly could. The biggest, most complicated war in human history was waged long before the internet was created, all logistics needed coordinated offline.

if Israel didn’t know where these 5.000 rockets were launched from

They were launched from Gaza.

tryptaminev ,

They were launched from Gaza.

Ahh now i understand, why Russia is just bombing relentlessly without much aiming.

dojan ,
@dojan@lemmy.world avatar

Next bottom is whether the infants are conspirators or not.

Stanley_Pain ,
@Stanley_Pain@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

We’re already there. They all had copies of Mein Kampf on them.

spamfajitas ,
Ilovethebomb ,

How did you get hold of Hamas training materiel?

cows_are_underrated ,

OK, that’s absolutely fucked up.

uriel238 ,
@uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Is that Baby Boomerangutan?

kratoz29 , to technology in Spotify re-invented the radio

Who tf uses Spotify without a premium account?

I’d rather pirate that shit that use it for free (I like to hit next all the way).

IMHO Spotify is one of the few services that it is worth to pay.

DuncanIdaho ,

If they gave half that profit to the artists on there, maybe. But they give about 10% iirc. Give up with these services and just buy the CD, vinyl or whatever. Then listen to your hearts content.

aes ,

bandcamp was a good thing

i’m slowly building up the courage to shoot an exec

BigBananaDealer ,
@BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee avatar

i listen to too much music to be shuffling around CDs while driving

ano_ba_to ,

We don’t rip CDs anymore so you can store them as MP3s on your phone? People have forgotten how to do that? I’m getting old.

BigBananaDealer ,
@BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee avatar

no i do that too with stuff that isnt on spotify. most recently with Dagmar Krause’s Tank Battles. but, again, i wouldnt have enough storage space to download all the shit i listen to even if i had all of the CDs ripped

ano_ba_to ,

Quantity over quality eh? I hope that doesn’t happen to subscription-based gaming.

BigBananaDealer ,
@BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee avatar

everything i like is quality

Arthur_Leywin ,

How much can I get for one of them bananas?

BigBananaDealer ,
@BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee avatar

depends on what you want. all shapes and sizes (especially big size)

PilferJynx ,

Damn, you must have a massive collection. Solid state memory is fairly cheap these days, even for flac.

BigBananaDealer ,
@BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee avatar

i mean i could get a TB sd card for my phone. but im lazy and spotify has most of what i need right there lol

and yeah i have a massive collection, 25,378 songs liked on spotify

dogebread ,

Many people that did that have careers and families and a general opportunity cost for their time. Ripping CDs is so unbelievably far down on my priority list it doesn’t even register.

ano_ba_to ,

What? It takes 5 minutes to pop your new CD in the drive and let Windows Media player handle it for you, track information included.

dogebread ,

Priority isn’t about LOE.

ano_ba_to ,

Good for you.

zouhair ,

I have a 1TB sdcard

BigBananaDealer ,
@BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee avatar

can i borrow it for the forever

name_NULL111653 ,

“And so Bittorrent was invented…”

DuncanIdaho ,

Buy it on Bandcamp and download it. Or rip it to mp3/flac. Then blutooth the phone to the car radio.

BigBananaDealer ,
@BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee avatar

bluetooth is not on my car. also Bluetooth quality sucks. also id be spending thousands of dollars to buy all my music

DeathWearsANecktie ,

Buying or even pirating literally thousands of albums just wouldn’t be feasible for me. Way too much cost, effort, and time. Spotify is well worth it for me as a consumer.

CCatMan ,

Not all artist release songs on albums or the albums were limited release and are hard to find, but spotify has them.

DuncanIdaho ,

Go to Bandcamp. Its usually there. Of course that site is in the shit for now thanks to their staff being laid off after a buyout, but the bands are still getting the money.

chickenf622 ,

I buy the the digital release to support the band and just keep listening on Spotify. At that point the band won’t get more money out of me for the songs and I get the covience of Spotify

aceshigh ,
@aceshigh@lemmy.world avatar

those who listen to podcasts. i can download them and they’re commercial free.

kratoz29 ,

Huh, I think Spotify is a poor podcast client, compared with the competition.

aceshigh ,
@aceshigh@lemmy.world avatar

really? what am i missing?

kratoz29 ,

Well, I use Pocket Casts and it has volume booster and trim silence options, as far as I remember Spotify had none of those.

yoz ,

Never paid for a service which uses internet,NEVER!

kratoz29 ,

I think Real Debrid is worth it.

Riven ,
@Riven@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Cough cough xmanager cough cough.

On github or xmanagerapp dotcom cough.

kratoz29 ,

That would enter the pirate subject wouldn’t it?

Anyway yeah using the free option provided by Spotify seems like the worst case scenario.

murmelade ,

Yeah, it’s basically premium except you can’t download the songs and something else I can’t remember.

RogueBanana ,

Pretty sure they also have a version that can download for offline playback with some caveats

Riven ,
@Riven@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

It also doesn’t include the car thing either.

blitzkrieg ,

I checked that and still don’t know what it does…

FierySpectre ,

Basically enable those very features that were disabled in the free version

KlausBlub ,

As I understand it it gives you features that were available in earlier Versions? Sounds nice! But I guess it won’t give you access to premium content right?

Metal0130 ,

I agree with you here. There may be a better service out there, but I certainly haven’t found it yet. I use Spotify in my car (via USB to my phone), in my kitchen, master bath, living room and kids rooms on Google mini’s or Amazon Echos… And I don’t have to go out and download anything, it just plays what I want when I want it.

loki_d20 ,

I use it for podcasts. Those exist outside the normally restricted music playlist stuff.

designatedhacker , to lemmyshitpost in Fell asleep while wife was driving home last night, she went above and beyond by remembering how important this was to me...

Also going 69 MPH? Nice.

Iwasondigg ,

Nice.

dumbluck ,

Nice

stanka ,

Noice

NarrativeBear , (edited )
RagnarokOnline ,

Nice.

bobbytables , to memes in Shots fired.

Oh common guys, that doesn’t have to be about oral sex and you know it.

It could just as well be about doggy style.

some_guy ,

Wow. Way to circumvent my comment with a clever zip in the other direction. I love it.

smoof ,

Sigh... unzips.

Valmond ,

But she sucks so hard

n3m37h ,

Golf ball through a garden hose hard? If not it’s still not worth it

TheCannonball ,

Soft ball through a straw

slurpeesoforion ,

Probably not. She’s got the pursed lips of a twenty year smoker.

DrCatface ,
@DrCatface@lemmy.ml avatar

she could suck start a harley

DrCatface ,
@DrCatface@lemmy.ml avatar

she could suck the bend out of a river

WtfEvenIsExistence , to lemmyshitpost in Absolutely nothing of note happened in China in June 1989, right?

Nothing happend at Reddit’s Frontpage on June 12, 2023. The so called “protests” is a hoax invented by the Lemmy devs attempting to discredit our wonderful platform. The “purge of moderators” never happened, not one single moderator was purged. And those who did get purged are violent rioters internet vandals. Reddit is the greatest platform ever, and Lemmy is filled with racists and spammers and ads and evil developers trying censor posts and take away user freedom. Long live CEO Spaz! May his wisdom guide us towards a better future!

gravitas_deficiency ,

I can’t wait to hear about Spez’s new 5-year plan!

betterdeadthanreddit ,

Based on that one sub he used to mod, he and Mao might have something else in common. At least a Spez 5-year plan only risks causing a content famine.

Thedogspaw ,

Hexbear thinks spez is based af

KIM_JONG_JUICEBOX ,
@KIM_JONG_JUICEBOX@lemmy.ml avatar

You probably do not know about lemmygrad. It’s like the MAGA version of /r/The_Putin

kamenlady ,
@kamenlady@lemmy.world avatar

Spez’ thoughts & Wisdom about Musk & Twitter:

nbcnews.com/…/reddit-blackout-protest-private-ceo…

Etterra , to mildlyinfuriating in higher wages for the servers... by the customers. Fnbs

The thing is, by paying for food we should be paying the employees - that’s how salaries work. But in an effort to out-compete each other in the razor-thin margin business that is most restaurants, they don’t want their menu prices to go up, because that discourages customer spending. So many restaurants use underhanded tactics to screw customers instead. Hidden menu prices, sneaky service fees, and begging for point-of-sale tips at places where they’re not getting paid shitty server salaries (like fast food).

superkret ,

But for some reason, those menu prices still are higher than for example in Germany, where service charge isn’t a thing and tips are “round up so I don’t get small change back”.

Carighan ,
@Carighan@lemmy.world avatar

Probably because in our atmosphere we more readily criticize bosses taking 90%+ off the top, while in the US it’s entirely normal that any increase in prices goes entirely into the manager pockets and the servers continue to be paid just enough to physically survive so they can show up for work again.

And sure, it happens a lot over here, too. But to a lesser degree, and not as readily. The base climate is different.

glimpseintotheshit ,

I disagree. Those prices are pretty typical for most (proper) german restaurants and i would even say some of it is on the more affordable side. Also, while tipping culture isn’t what it is in the US, giving less than 10% will make the waiter almost certainly hate you.

That’s no excuse for that outrageous “service fee”, of course.

feifei ,

Best to cook at home

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