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reddig33 , to programmer_humor in Classic Amazon

Is that an Amazon problem, or a government admin setting the wrong permissions on AWS problem?

wizardbeard ,

Absolutely the latter. This is similar to how Snowden had access to all the stuff he leaked. He worked at a place that did contract work with the government and was mortified at all he had access to that he should have never been able to see.

There’s a shit ton of articles in the tech space about how companies keep fucking up with stuff like this. No reasonable expectation that the government and their contractors would do any better.

SturgiesYrFase ,
@SturgiesYrFase@lemmy.ml avatar

The real problem is Amazon hosting sensitive government files…

RonSijm ,
@RonSijm@programming.dev avatar

It’s pretty common that AWS is doing that, they even have a special GovCloud for them.

These companies are obviously just doing it wrong by having public S3 buckets

SturgiesYrFase ,
@SturgiesYrFase@lemmy.ml avatar

I mean, Amazon isn’t necessarily in the wrong for providing the service. It’s governments trusting a private company, with a history of collecting more data than they should, with sensitive data. It’s just stupid, really really, mind numbingly, stupid

RonSijm ,
@RonSijm@programming.dev avatar

Yea, that’s why I mentioned these companies are just doing it wrong. Governments have the same problems as private companies, in that they don’t really want to maintain their own cloud infrastructure, so they’ll use something like AWS

But for example they could host their own On-premises HSM and encrypt their GovCloud to a degree that it’s inaccessible to AWS

mlg , to lemmyshitpost in We see what you're doing
@mlg@lemmy.world avatar

Kinda sounds like the time when they magically got to decide the elections because they waited until there was no time left instead of actually forcing florida to properly count their votes

volvoxvsmarla , to lemmyshitpost in Germans: what genocide?

(Preface: I am team genocide. I also live in Germany. Germany’s politics are a disgrace, but I digress.)

What annoys me about this is that this discussion gets so much media attention and focus, while it doesn’t matter in this very moment. I understand that there are implications if it will be defined as a genocide. But right now people are being killed every day en masse and they frankly give a crap about whether they died in a mass murder or terrorist attack or a genocide.

It reminds me of the early days of the Ukraine war when everyone was so obsessed with comparing Putin to Hitler (Putler is still a popular term) and the discussion was high on whether Putins actions amount to fascism or not, with a lot of internet laymen but also experts on that subject chiming in. When I asked a half Russian, half Ukrainian what their opinion was, their reply was something like “who the fuck cares? Call it a chicken pea pie, nobody cares, people are being killed, I don’t give a crap. Somewhen in the future people will be looking back and asking the same question, but it doesn’t matter right now.” And it stuck with me.

If I understand correctly, the ICJ will rule again on the case in a couple of years (?), which obviously isn’t relevant right now. It seems like the ruling would have an aftermath in retrospect but even if they ruled it were a genocide today, nothing much would change directly - but please correct me if I am wrong here.

But what definitely doesn’t matter is what we think. What matters is what is happening. And it doesn’t need a name to be evil and detrimental.

melpomenesclevage ,

”i am team genocide"

-volvoxvsmarla

I dunno, can we trust them? Agree tho; people are dying and it needs to stop no matter what we call it, even if there were no larger implications; its fucking pointless and needs to stop.

volvoxvsmarla ,

I hope I won’t be remembered for this quote. I’ll choose my phrasing better in the future.

melpomenesclevage , (edited )

Lol please don’t; it was hilarious to read.

Zehzin ,
@Zehzin@lemmy.world avatar

"I (…) won’t be (…) better in the future. "

-volvoxvsmarla

volvoxvsmarla ,

I need to stop digging, my grave is already big enough to fit a walrus

xx3rawr ,

I need to stop ███ing, my ███ is already big enough to f███ a walrus

-volvoxvsmarla

AreaSIX ,

Germany has supplied 30% of Israel s weapons, and has continued to do so during this ongoing genocide. If Germany or the US were to acknowledge the ongoing genocide, they’d have to stop supplying those arms immediately, hence stopping the annihilation of Gaza. So it’s of immense importance to keep repeating what most of the world already acknowledges: this is a genocide, and those arming the perpetrators are complicit in their crimes. History will not judge Germany kindly, but I guess that’s not exactly a new thing for a veteran perpetrator of genocide.

volvoxvsmarla ,

Ok, this sounds valid. But what would oblige them to stop them from delivering weapons if the ICJ rules it is a genocide? Is there any legal obligation, can they denounce the ruling?

If you mean acknowledge in a sense of civilian/political acknowledgement, then my issue with it is that it shouldn’t be necessary to be this anal about some definition. It’s splitting hairs on cut off heads. Supporting mass murder is wrong in the context of genocide as well as outside of it. It shouldn’t be necessary to convince the governments that it is a genocide to convince them to stop supplying weapons.

Linkerbaan ,
@Linkerbaan@lemmy.world avatar

Israel already received an ICJ ruling to immediately stop their blocking of aid which they ignored.

It’s safe to say the ICJ is nothing but a feel good tool that everyone including the West ignores when inconvenient.

AreaSIX , (edited )

The US and Germany are both signatories of the UN arms trade treaty . This is article 6 (3):

“A State Party shall not authorize any transfer of conventional arms covered under Article 2 (1) or of items covered under Article 3 or Article 4, if it has knowledge at the time of authorization that the arms or items would be used in the commission of genocide, crimes against humanity, grave breaches of the Geneva Conventions of 1949, attacks directed against civilian objects or civilians protected as such, or other war crimes as defined by international agreements to which it is a Party”

Mass murder is the name of the game in war. So arming other militaries is always in support of mass murder. But in the eyes of international law some mass murder is acceptable as part of war. Genocide and the other crimes recounted above however, have been deemed to cross the threshold of acceptability in international law, and therefore are meant to stop the transfer of arms immediately. If the US and Germany were to acknowledge that these crimes are being perpetrated by Israel, they’d have to stop transferring arms. Mass murder in itself is admittedly wrong, but that alone is not sufficient to trigger a halt to arms exports. Therefore, it is of great importance to keep repeating: this is a genocide, and those arming the perpetrators are complicit in their crimes.

volvoxvsmarla ,

Thank you, that is a very helpful insight!

crimes against humanity, grave breaches of the Geneva Conventions of 1949, attacks directed against civilian objects or civilians protected as such, or other war crimes as defined by international agreements

Why do we then seem to hear only about the genocide controversy? Wouldn’t it be easier/faster/more obvious to argue for all the other crimes mentioned above?

AreaSIX ,

That’s because the crime of genocide tends to contain within it multiple instances of crimes against humanity, breaches of the Geneva convention, attacks against civilians and so on. It’s basically the ultimate crime containing all the other crimes within it. And the highest authority on international law in the World, the ICJ, has said that it is plausible that what Israel is doing amounts to a genocide. It really is very clear and simple, if you’re willing to see things as they are.

HopFlop ,

What exactly are people referring to when the label this a genocide? Like, what line was crossed where this changed from defending against terrorists to commiting a genocide, in your opinion? (I’m genuienly curious, couldnt really find anything specific on this)

federatingIsTooHard ,
@federatingIsTooHard@lemmy.world avatar

terrorism is a crime. you use police to deal with crimes. investigate, get a warrant, and bring them to a judge.

bartolomeo ,
@bartolomeo@suppo.fi avatar

Especially when the terrorists come from an area which the victim has effective control over. It’s a police matter, not a 2,000 pound bomb matter.

AreaSIX ,

What exactly are people referring to when the label this a genocide?

This is The UN Convention on the prevention and punishment of the crime of genocide detailing what constitutes a genocide.

Like, what line was crossed where this changed from defending against terrorists to commiting a genocide, in your opinion?

Here’s South Africa’s 84 page indictment with details and receipts on how the genocide Convention is being violated, assuming a good faith and genuine question on your part.

100_kg_90_de_belin ,

American companies allegedly kept on working with Nazi Germany after the US entered the war. Therefore, unless Israel gets on the UN stand and says, “Yes, we’re committing genocide and y’all’s are next” no one will let non-white deaths affect the bottom line.

Toneswirly , to lemmyshitpost in I feel old

As a younger millenial I gotta say some of these are ours. We were calling things “extra” since like '06. Vibe is as old as the hippies, and mid is weed slang from like the early 2000s.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Wait, those are real?

Toneswirly ,

Unfortunately

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

I apparently live under a rock.

Pulptastic ,

You down with OPP?

devnull406 ,

Yeah You know me

oatscoop ,

Every generation uses old slang they mistakenly believe they invented.

postmateDumbass ,

Or in the case of ‘out of pocket’ every generaation just ignorantly bastardizes random shit.

oatscoop ,

Fax, no printer.

postmateDumbass ,

No baseball hat.

Rusty ,

Yeah, our generation was streets ahead of those zoomers.

hardcoreufo ,

Ok Pierce.

funkajunk , to lemmyshitpost in POV:
@funkajunk@lemm.ee avatar

Somebody actually used “POV” correctly ❤️

nifty ,
@nifty@lemmy.world avatar
Wizard_Pope , (edited )
@Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world avatar

It does not cancel it out completely. Especially, if you wear one of those big red clown ones

nifty ,
@nifty@lemmy.world avatar

Hmm, I should experiment…

psmgx , to lemmyshitpost in Amazon "search through reviews" is blindly just running an AI model now

Ask it to print one billion digits of Pi, but to do it with sarcastic narration like it was a NYC construction worker

Revan343 ,

That’s a ridiculous query. I like the way you think

intensely_human , to programmerhumor in *Angry programmers noise getting louder and louder*

Markup languages are just declarative programming at its best

teft ,
@teft@lemmy.world avatar
buddascrayon ,

Mostly it’s a Word doc with extra steps.

ElCanut , (edited ) to programmerhumor in C++ Moment

Rust developer: I’d like to compile some code

Rust compiler: the fuck you are

malle_yeno ,
@malle_yeno@pawb.social avatar

The rust compiler holds your hand, wraps you in blankets, makes you hot chocolate, kisses you on the forehead before it gently and politely points out what you did wrong and how you can solve it step-by-step. It would never think of something as heinous as swearing at you, shame on you for insulting my wife’s honour like this.

BautAufWasEuchAufbaut ,
@BautAufWasEuchAufbaut@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

I need a rust compiler in my life 😍

theherk ,

Damn right. And once it compiles… it works.

django ,

Meet my friend: .unwrap()

theherk ,

Fair.

ElCanut ,

Rust compiler is passive agressive, like:

“There’s an error at line 286 because you still don’t know how to use the borrow checker after all this time ♥️”

deur ,

its a compiler. That is at best projection, especially considering how the compiler’s error feedback is designed to be firm yet gentle.

planish ,

The rust compiler produces a flawless understanding of your code, and then quits out because understanding that code is a Nightly-only feature and you’re using the stable build.

_xDEADBEEF ,

except when it gives errors about lifetimes of some object.

boy, that makes my brain hurt

hector ,

I don’t know from where this legend comes from but lifetimes/concurrency/macros errors are brain-hurting.

Most of the time I find myself dropping project because I wrote my program in a correct way but Rust just does not like how it is designed lol. I can’t get shit done with this language

Linkerbaan , to technology in Happy 10 million! According to FediDB, we have hit 10 million users across the Fediverse!
@Linkerbaan@lemmy.world avatar

Sweet when are we gonna IPO?

By the way the CIA just called to ask if anyone knows who controls this place and if they want a free tour of the MIT server closet.

jaybone ,

Speaking of IPOs, I just got an email in one of my old spam accounts, which I used for one of my old Reddit accounts that was like 14 years old. It said I could purchase stock at the same price as private investors or something or other.

mesamunefire OP ,

Lol wallstreatbets are already talking about shorting those stocks. It’s going to be funny.

xor ,

considering their user base hates them and they have no profit because the ceo pockets all profitability… and they’re violating various international laws with abusing user data…
yeah they’re kinda destined to fail

someguy3 , to lemmyshitpost in Tipping culture npcs

I remember when I realized tipping is insane (like 15 years ago at a bar). One of my friends was talking the waitress up and she was complaining about another table and the tip she expected. Some quick math worked out to she expected 40%.

Imgonnatrythis ,

Keep in mind by doing that she probably raised her tip from your friend by at least 10%. I wouldn’t assume there wasn’t some strategy in that conversation.

NoIWontPickaName ,

What was the total? That could be completely reasonable, if I order coffee and a piece of pie 40% is only a couple of bucks

Holzkohlen , to memes in 2024 is going to be the beginning of the end of us all

Well, at least that will take your mind off global warming. Which is good since we have already hit 1.5°C of warming.

Mog_fanatic ,

1.5 and we’re just getting started! Let’s goooooo! It’s incredible what humans can do when we work together 🔥👏🏻🔥👏🏻🔥

lars ,

You are a horrible person to make me laugh so hard at our folly

brbposting , to mildlyinteresting in Hopping along like a little bouncing ball
pineapplelover ,

Fuck I wanna hug that guy so hard.

ChaoticNeutralCzech , (edited )

Region-locked to all across Asia around 45°N ('stans, Mongolia) and in spots all over Europe, especially Poland. A very interesting range, including the Mediterranean coast and Himalayas.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f8/PanurusBiarmicusIUCN2019-3.png/640px-PanurusBiarmicusIUCN2019-3.png

Good luck taming one, though. Also, only males are “bearded”.

blanketswithsmallpox ,

I need to use Stans for regional definitions way more often.

The canadian Lynx stans most of Canada sans their arctic islands , and Alaska.

I need to hear this on ZeFrank and CasualGeoraphic.

wieson ,

I don’t know if this is a misunderstanding or if you’re deliberately using an additional second meaning for comedic effect.

But @ChaoticNeutralCzech meant ‘stans’ as ‘central Asia’ because of Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Kirgisistan, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan, Afghanistan and Pakistan.

blanketswithsmallpox ,

Yeah the second meaning is also ‘Stan’. It got popularized five? years ago now when there was some superfan of a celebrity called Stan who knew everything about them. So if you’re super into something like Eminem or a KPop group, you’d say, I stan Taylor Swift.

So if an animal stans the Himalayas, that means they love it so much they live there.

echodot ,

I need to hear this on ZeFrank and CasualGeoraphic.

ZeFrank is suddenly way more active than he used to be. I thought he’d quit YouTube but apparently he’s back now.

MisterFrog ,
@MisterFrog@lemmy.world avatar

Given their range, I wonder if their bulkiness functions to reduce their surface area to volume ratio. Since small birds need to eat a shittone of food compared to their body weight.

ChaoticNeutralCzech ,

Probably. Also, it likely helps that they are omnivorous, and they chonk up for the winter. Some also migrate relatively short distances (blue on map).

phorq ,

ebird.org is everything I wanted from twitter and more!

JasonDJ , to mildlyinfuriating in It seems like all packaged foods do this now

I don’t see anything on the scale indicating it was not tared. Nor do I know whether or not you took a noodle or two out of the pile before weighing

For all we know, you tared this +20g and this is feel-good anti-corporate propaganda. Which is fine, we all hate the corporations…but propaganda is propaganda.

Op, please post a video showing a calibration weight on the scale followed immediately by your pasta taken directly out of a sealed box. For science.

PutangInaMo ,

Your sound logic side, 8g of pasta is hardly shrinkflation and I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s an accepted rounding error in plant packaging.

Sylvartas ,

Also net weight vs gross weight. I think there’s a law that regulates this where I live (France) because it’s always specified but I don’t see it here.

I assume OP is from Canada because I see English and French on the packaging. I lived there for a few years and was losing my mind over this kind of stuff the entire time. Prices never include taxes even though you basically always have to pay them, price per pound/gallon/unit is never displayed either and they really try to swindle you with this, I constantly saw “family sized” or whatever packages that actually cost more per pound than the regular version when I did the math. So I’m not surprised.

superbirra ,

shrinkflation is 410 instead of 500 grams, then there is this weight skew

ISometimesAdmin , to mildlyinfuriating in It seems like all packaged foods do this now
@ISometimesAdmin@the.coolest.zone avatar

The FDA regulation on Net Weight is found in 21 CFR 101.105. In this regulation FDA makes allowance for reasonable variations caused by loss or gain of moisture during the course of good distribution practice or by unavoidable deviations in good manufacturing practice. FDA states that variations from the stated quantity of contents should not be unreasonably large.

While FDA does not provide a specific allowable tolerance for Net Weight, this matter could come under FTC jurisdiction. FTC has proposed regulations that would unify USDA and FDA Net Contents labeling and incorporate information found in the National Institute of Standards & Technology (NIST) Handbook 133.

NIST Handbook 133 specifies that the average net quantity of contents in a lot must at least equal the net quantity declared on the label. Plus or minus deviation is permitted when caused by unavoidable variation in weighing and measuring that occur in good manufacturing practice. The maximum allowable variance for a package with a net weight declaration of 5 oz is 5/16 oz. Packages under-filled by more than this amount are considered non-compliant.

http://www.foodconsulting.com/q&a.htm

gregorum ,

The maximum allowable variance for a package with a net weight declaration of 5 oz is 5/16 oz.

oddly, that’s just over 8g, the difference noted in OP’s example. so, OP’s package is within he allowable tolerance, just.

SpaceNoodle ,

5/16 oz out of 5 oz is just over 6%.

GenEcon ,

Thank you! I don’t get why they use such weird measurements. Why not use %?

SpaceNoodle ,

Probably because, as evidenced by most others’ attempts to do simple arithmetic in this thread, percentages are even more difficult to calculate.

admiralteal ,

And it would probably be more expensive to get precision-calibrated equipment to get you at the bottom end of the tolerance to save product cost than what it would cost to just aim for the correct value with less precise equipment.

This one is a conspiracy theory I struggle to get behind. It seems like the conspiracy would be less profitable than the "proper" behavior here.

gregorum ,

Hanlon’s razor: Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity or incompetence.

blandfordforever ,

You know full well that they did some statistical analysis and determined the minimum possible amount of pasta that they could try to put in that box, taking into account variations in their machinery and moisture content.

admiralteal ,

Big "How much can a banana cost, $10?" energy here.

We're talking about one of the cheapest brands of commodity pasta here. Think about how much effort you are implying the company put into this versus what 8g of major wholesale flour costs -- the only cost they'd really be saving in this conspiracy.

Even at consumer retail prices that's, what, $0.012 per box? And I bet wholesale prices are at least an order of magnitude less than that. Is the maybe tenth of a percent of cost savings worth a potential class action lawsuit and the horrific pain of Discovery that comes with it? And does that maybe tenth a percent of cost savings even come close to covering all the additional production costs involved in having that machinery calibrated so much more precisely? The juice is not worth the squeeze, my friend.

You think you're arguing that they would do evil for profit's sake, but you're actually arguing they would do evil for evil's sake even at the expense of profit.

blandfordforever ,

Just so that I’m understanding correctly, you’re saying a company that sells tens of billions of dollars of pasta per year is not interested in saving a penny ot a fraction of a penny per box?

Do you think anyone is going to win a class action lawsuit against a pasta company that 1-5% of the time puts just barely too little pasta in the box. You think we’re going to have that kind of righteous justice? Haha. Do you think people would even be that surprised given that, as you say, “we’re talking about one of the cheapest brands of commodity pasta here.” No, if this was found to be true, whatever regulatory agency would just give them a warning.

It’s not about being evil, is about the way capitalism works. If they’re putting more product in the box than they have to, they’re fools.

And you don’t “precisely calibrate the machinery.” You just figure out what the variations are and you set it to the minimum. If you’re supposed to have something like 9-11 oz of pasta in your box and you know that your machine will give you whatever you set it to, +/- 0.2 oz of pasta, 99% of the time, you set your machine to 9.2 or 9.3 oz. You don’t set it to 10 oz.

JJROKCZ ,

4.7 billion is Barillas global revenue, that’s a lot for one person but for a multi-continent good distributor it’s not.

I know you’re angry at the worlds injustices and all but I don’t think the bargain brand dry pasta company is the source of a part of your global conspiracy

blandfordforever ,

I’m not angry and I don’t think this is a global conspiracy. I just believe that large companies are motivated to cut costs wherever they can.

Have you heard of pink slime? Its a product of the beef industry. They heat and centrifuge “waste trimmings” to get a little bit of additional gooey fatty animal product and then add it to ground beef. It’s pretty gross and it adds only a miniscule amount to the profit margin.

Large companies do everything they can to make as much money as possible.

Deceptichum ,
@Deceptichum@kbin.social avatar

The FDA is probably not operating in what I can only assume is Canada from the Eng/Fra and grams.

But I’m sure they have something to allow for fluctuations in weight, would rather it be mandated as a minimum allowing for a bit of extra weight to over compensate.

NoIWontPickaName ,

A lot of American stuff has English French and Spanish so it can cover the whole continent basically

Deceptichum ,
@Deceptichum@kbin.social avatar

Do Americans set their scales to metric?

Zorque ,

I do.

geekwithsoul ,

I do as well - just because I live in a backwards country doesn’t mean I have to be backwards too

skeeter_dave ,

USDA contractor here, we use metric on the scales we use day to day.

HikingVet ,

Yeah, but here in Canada you don’t get Spanish very often, and it would be where the English and French would be. Also the Americans would put both units on the package.

TonyTonyChopper ,
@TonyTonyChopper@mander.xyz avatar

5/16 oz

How many football fields to the gallon is that? On a serious note this is something far better expressed as a fraction than an amount of difference for one specific container size…

SpaceNoodle ,

You can’t divide 5/16 by 5?

jettrscga ,

It’s not really clear whether the variance scales linearly with weight. We only know 1 data point. It could be bracketed for different weight groups.

TonyTonyChopper ,
@TonyTonyChopper@mander.xyz avatar

exactly

piecat ,

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  • imPastaSyndrome ,

    1/16th

    Threeme2189 ,

    5/80

    Easy 😎

    TonyTonyChopper ,
    @TonyTonyChopper@mander.xyz avatar

    6.25%

    SpaceNoodle ,

    Congratulations

    Crashumbc ,

    In the nineties, 4oz ground pepper cans made on a line I worked on.

    The tolerances were horrible.

    McCormick was 3.9 I think

    Black and white can 3.5. !!! (25%)

    Yes both were made on the same exact line

    EvacuateSoul ,

    .5 is not 25% of 4

    SpaceNoodle ,

    Why is the basic arithmetic in this thread so terrible?

    Crashumbc ,

    TBH, I was hungover a piss, and was like fuck it.

    JJROKCZ ,

    Because it’s full of delusional angry people that think there’s a global conspiracy to short consumers tiny percentages of our food to keep us subjugated and poor

    SpaceNoodle ,

    It’s not necessarily a conspiracy. They’re all just doing it because it’s easy and there’s plausible deniability.

    MIDItheKID , to android in The Google messaging update looks bad. It reminded me I purchased textra a while ago.

    Okay, so I’m not crazy. I started seeing this today, and I had to stop and think “Wait, was this always here?”

    SendMePhotos ,

    Lmao same.

    Nativeridge ,
    @Nativeridge@aussie.zone avatar

    bloody annoying and ugly

    Maladius ,

    Until I saw this post I thought my phone was just being buggy.

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