Gonna be honest, a lot of times I feel like I don’t belong here, I’m still figuring things out. I’m not a “techy” type person (that seems to be some kind of prerequisite) and I barely know how to explain the fediverse to the layman, but I left reddit when they fucked over Joey (my preferred reddit app) and read enough to give reddit the middle finger and never look back. It’s been nice, really. I spend more time outside of the internet now. But I believe in the fediverse, I think it’s the right thing to do. I still check up on lemmy daily, but I get much more value and human connection and only spend the time that is appropriate on lemmy instead of endlessly scrolling. Most days I end up in some Wikipedia rabbit hole. Just like the good ol’ days. Learning new things, meeting new people. That’s what I love about the internet.
It’s easy to feel that way even if you are a techy. It seems like being minimally neurodivergent is the abnormal here.
That being said, I’ve been introduced to many different ways of thinking that I wouldn’t have gained otherwise. Think of it like you’re different, but that’s ok because everyone here is different - and that makes them (and you) all the more beautiful for it (especially in the context of idea exchange). In fact, being the different one here will give you the perspective that many of the people who use Lemmy experience simply by existing which, in and of itself, is a valuable thing.
It’s what we all loved about the internet I think, before the web become… “that” (looking at the pile of shit the web has become).
But actually it’s not the web, not really. It’s the big tech platforms that most people seem to think is the internet now. It’s sad to watch how people log on to “Facebook” and not the general web anymore. And then Google in front of everything, like a big cancer growth.
Lemmy is not the new internet either I believe. But it’s here to show people that something else can exist. As soon as we let advertising in here though, it’s over.
I think the answer is not to gatekeep against advertising actively, but to have a platform that is resilient to that kind of thing. Like, if there were advertising on an instance people would fucking BOUNCE I think. And if it got somehow baked into the platform itself there would be a new fork with the advertising excised before the sun went down.
The beautiful thing about decentralisation is that if an instance tries to as ads, then you can go to a different instance and see the same content.
If an instance creates as posts, your instance admin can block the whole instance.
Interestingly, the big instances seem to easily get enough donations to cover costs. I think that’s the great thing about this model, people are willing to donate when they know it’s not some big corporate making profit for shareholders.
adding to the old internet thing, using mojeek reminds me of the old search results! searched for something mildly obscure, actually got good results and also a porn site lmfao.
Honestly this is great, non-techy people making the transition is a good sign and something the system needs to gain mainstream appeal.
Also, people who aren’t techy are less likely to accept hacky workaround BS and complain until it’s fixed on a system-wide level, and that’s needed to mature the platform to something anyone can use. It’s getting there but it’s still got a lot of rough edges.
A way I have found to explain federated social media to people, that seems to work is this: Imagine reddit, but instead of one company, with one administration, owning the whole site, it is a bunch of different reddits, that are independently run, that choose which other reddits they wish to associate themselves with. When you log into one instance, you automatically can see, and interact with, all the other ones that one chooses to associate with. You can have accounts on as many instances as you would like, even having accounts on instances that do no associate with each other.
I just say: “It’s like email. There are different email servers, but they can all talk to one another. If there are things you really like, you can subscribe to them, and if there are things you don’t like, you can block them.”
I enjoyed reading this. I came over from reddit when they started banning people for protesting. That showed me that reddit was not what I thought it is.
I‘m a techy person. I run servers for friends and customers, partly with fediverse services on them. Lemmy being one of them. I donate both time and money to lemmy and other services I enjoy and use.
The fediverse is a great thing imo. I hope it succeeds.
Oh yes, good point. That’s a big part of my problem when it came to my reddit experience in the end. I mean shit, I was a redditor since 2009. It was hard to leave but also not.
Hey, I also was a Joey user. I am pretty tech savvy (I’m a software dev and a former sys admin). I’m not a Linux daily user though, so I still understand that out of place feeling. Like I have used Linux for things, but after working on my computer all day for work, I don’t exactly want to deal with roadblocks or tinkering on my computer in the evening.
I have also noticed that I spend less time scrolling on here than I did on Reddit, which is a good thing for me. It’s a place where I can satisfy that itch without getting lost in scrolling of posts or comment sections for hours.
Congrats! It’s scary, but this is when you finally have the freedom to live your unique life. Stay in touch with your close friends, everyone else will fade away. And remember, wear sunscreen.
It’s not even like the vast majority people who refrain from gluten just because they don’t like it or think it’s healthier. It’s because they can’t tolerate it. This car reads to me like someone ragging on people who have peanut or shellfish allergies.
To give the dude some credit, a while back it was kinda in-style to hate on gluten or think you’re intolerant to it, so maybe this is just a reaction to that?
Yes, the root of the “backlash” was people avoiding gluten after it became somewhat of a health fad. Somehow it became perceived as an elitist affectation, like “they think they’re better than us! They’re too good for our regular food!!”. I don’t really get why people care so much about what other people don’t want to eat though.
If we were placing bets, I would put money down that his love of pigs is to shit on the Muslim community. I don’t have any hard evidence to that effect, but I dunno. I just have a feeling.
It’s not even like the vast majority people who refrain from gluten just because they don’t like it or think it’s healthier. It’s because they can’t tolerate it.
There was certainly a fad for going gluten free as a fad there for a while, but I haven’t really encountered any of that crowd in a bit. However, I definitely have friends with celiac disease and/or gluten allergies.
While any sweeping claim is better when backed by data that supports it, I dont think this particular case is a hill I’d die on.
I have a shellfish allergy and I rag on me all the time. The one that really sucked was developing an egg allergy. I love eggs (and before someone suggests duck eggs, they were the initial trigger. I was probably somewhat intolerant before because they gave me heartburn and some digestion issues, but 3 duck eggs caused projectile vomit, and I haven’t been able to eat eggs since).
“meat is murder” is directly attacking other’s dietary preferences. The person in the picture looks like they are sharing what they love with the world.
If one feels attacked over what someone else loves, they probably need some self reflection.
I mean, sure. Theoretically.
Same as how “meat is murder” isn’t actually an attack, it’s just sharing their thoughts on ethics passively on the back of their car.
Realistically, we can probably guess that the person with a lot of “meat is murder” stickers is probably about as likely to be the sort of person to say something shitty to someone eating a burger as this person is to loudly proclaim they eat twice as much meat a day to cancel out a vegan, and that people who are gluten free are just following a fad or attention seekers eating fake bread.
I’m not a vegan, and I’m also not a fan of vegan preaching, but veganism extends beyond diet to include other products like clothes and makeup. So it’s not entirely a dietary stance, that’s just where it gets the most contention. Most people are mostly vegan outside the dietary sphere, so there’s not much fighting to be had there.
Yes, I do know what veganism is. But in this case we’re talking about food, and in that sphere veganism is a dietary preference. That it also has other lifestyle implications isn’t really relevant to a conversation about food.
I am more than happy to be preachy about ending the suffering and abuse of literally billions of animals.
Listen, I appreciate someone who is at least not hostile towards vegans, but I hate this whole “I respect what vegans eat, so they should respect what I eat”. Sir, you are eating an animal that was most likely tortured and abused its entire life up until the point it was murdered
It’s just about the timing and choice of person you go preachy on is all.
I do not give a damn about your dietary preferences. At all, in the slightest.
And so who do you choose to annoy? Obviously the person saying vegans aren’t the worst, but just “people”.
It’s like you’re trying to persuade people that they’re wrong when they say that vegans, like all people, have a range of “chill” to “insufferable”.
Don’t worry though, you have not shaken my beliefs. I just think you in particular are insufferable on this topic.
You know, this post made me realize something. Some people are viewing it in terms of “rank”, instead of an arbitrary scientific classification designed to efficiently communicate ideas in a clear and concise way.
It’s like … mythology or something, and the planet(oid) being anthropomorphized.
Do people also view kingdom, phylum, class, order, family, genus, species as “ranks” of some sort, with some intrinsically greater value being given to some over others?
Do people also view kingdom, phylum, class, order, family, genus, species as “ranks” of some sort, with some intrinsically greater value being given to some over others?
It’s like … mythology or something, and the planet(oid) being anthropomorphized.
I mean, the planet(oid)s are named after gods.
The personification of its classification is probably related to the exclusivity of the title and “bigger is better” mentality. Since every life form has a taxonomy for domain to species, there’s not really an exclusivity to each echelon. I don’t imagine anybody really thinks like this meme below, for example:
This makes me want to devise a tiered, inclusive classification scheme for space objects.
We could start with orbital objects, any object that normally experiences regular, periodic orbits with minimal deviation. So, everything in the galaxy would be one except potentially Sag A, and the galaxy itself. Perhaps the next branching subsets could be things undergoing continuous fusion somewhere in their body or not?
I think it’ll matter a bit more once (if) we get to explore our solar system for real. I feel like right now the concept of “planet” is still rather distant in our minds and a lot of people just base it on vibes
It’s all fun and games until the cat gets fed up and this turns into an “I’m not locked in here with you, you’re locked in here with me” scenario. Especially with bare legs.
Absolutely the latter. This is similar to how Snowden had access to all the stuff he leaked. He worked at a place that did contract work with the government and was mortified at all he had access to that he should have never been able to see.
There’s a shit ton of articles in the tech space about how companies keep fucking up with stuff like this. No reasonable expectation that the government and their contractors would do any better.
I mean, Amazon isn’t necessarily in the wrong for providing the service. It’s governments trusting a private company, with a history of collecting more data than they should, with sensitive data. It’s just stupid, really really, mind numbingly, stupid
Yea, that’s why I mentioned these companies are just doing it wrong. Governments have the same problems as private companies, in that they don’t really want to maintain their own cloud infrastructure, so they’ll use something like AWS
But for example they could host their own On-premises HSM and encrypt their GovCloud to a degree that it’s inaccessible to AWS
Kinda sounds like the time when they magically got to decide the elections because they waited until there was no time left instead of actually forcing florida to properly count their votes
(Preface: I am team genocide. I also live in Germany. Germany’s politics are a disgrace, but I digress.)
What annoys me about this is that this discussion gets so much media attention and focus, while it doesn’t matter in this very moment. I understand that there are implications if it will be defined as a genocide. But right now people are being killed every day en masse and they frankly give a crap about whether they died in a mass murder or terrorist attack or a genocide.
It reminds me of the early days of the Ukraine war when everyone was so obsessed with comparing Putin to Hitler (Putler is still a popular term) and the discussion was high on whether Putins actions amount to fascism or not, with a lot of internet laymen but also experts on that subject chiming in. When I asked a half Russian, half Ukrainian what their opinion was, their reply was something like “who the fuck cares? Call it a chicken pea pie, nobody cares, people are being killed, I don’t give a crap. Somewhen in the future people will be looking back and asking the same question, but it doesn’t matter right now.” And it stuck with me.
If I understand correctly, the ICJ will rule again on the case in a couple of years (?), which obviously isn’t relevant right now. It seems like the ruling would have an aftermath in retrospect but even if they ruled it were a genocide today, nothing much would change directly - but please correct me if I am wrong here.
But what definitely doesn’t matter is what we think. What matters is what is happening. And it doesn’t need a name to be evil and detrimental.
I dunno, can we trust them? Agree tho; people are dying and it needs to stop no matter what we call it, even if there were no larger implications; its fucking pointless and needs to stop.
Germany has supplied 30% of Israel s weapons, and has continued to do so during this ongoing genocide. If Germany or the US were to acknowledge the ongoing genocide, they’d have to stop supplying those arms immediately, hence stopping the annihilation of Gaza. So it’s of immense importance to keep repeating what most of the world already acknowledges: this is a genocide, and those arming the perpetrators are complicit in their crimes. History will not judge Germany kindly, but I guess that’s not exactly a new thing for a veteran perpetrator of genocide.
Ok, this sounds valid. But what would oblige them to stop them from delivering weapons if the ICJ rules it is a genocide? Is there any legal obligation, can they denounce the ruling?
If you mean acknowledge in a sense of civilian/political acknowledgement, then my issue with it is that it shouldn’t be necessary to be this anal about some definition. It’s splitting hairs on cut off heads. Supporting mass murder is wrong in the context of genocide as well as outside of it. It shouldn’t be necessary to convince the governments that it is a genocide to convince them to stop supplying weapons.
The US and Germany are both signatories of the UN arms trade treaty . This is article 6 (3):
“A State Party shall not authorize any transfer of conventional arms covered under Article 2 (1) or of items covered under Article 3 or Article 4, if it has knowledge at the time of authorization that the arms or items would be used in the commission of genocide, crimes against humanity, grave breaches of the Geneva Conventions of 1949, attacks directed against civilian objects or civilians protected as such, or other war crimes as defined by international agreements to which it is a Party”
Mass murder is the name of the game in war. So arming other militaries is always in support of mass murder. But in the eyes of international law some mass murder is acceptable as part of war. Genocide and the other crimes recounted above however, have been deemed to cross the threshold of acceptability in international law, and therefore are meant to stop the transfer of arms immediately. If the US and Germany were to acknowledge that these crimes are being perpetrated by Israel, they’d have to stop transferring arms. Mass murder in itself is admittedly wrong, but that alone is not sufficient to trigger a halt to arms exports. Therefore, it is of great importance to keep repeating: this is a genocide, and those arming the perpetrators are complicit in their crimes.
crimes against humanity, grave breaches of the Geneva Conventions of 1949, attacks directed against civilian objects or civilians protected as such, or other war crimes as defined by international agreements
Why do we then seem to hear only about the genocide controversy? Wouldn’t it be easier/faster/more obvious to argue for all the other crimes mentioned above?
That’s because the crime of genocide tends to contain within it multiple instances of crimes against humanity, breaches of the Geneva convention, attacks against civilians and so on. It’s basically the ultimate crime containing all the other crimes within it. And the highest authority on international law in the World, the ICJ, has said that it is plausible that what Israel is doing amounts to a genocide. It really is very clear and simple, if you’re willing to see things as they are.
What exactly are people referring to when the label this a genocide? Like, what line was crossed where this changed from defending against terrorists to commiting a genocide, in your opinion? (I’m genuienly curious, couldnt really find anything specific on this)
Like, what line was crossed where this changed from defending against terrorists to commiting a genocide, in your opinion?
Here’s South Africa’s 84 page indictment with details and receipts on how the genocide Convention is being violated, assuming a good faith and genuine question on your part.
American companies allegedly kept on working with Nazi Germany after the US entered the war. Therefore, unless Israel gets on the UN stand and says, “Yes, we’re committing genocide and y’all’s are next” no one will let non-white deaths affect the bottom line.
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