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svellere , (edited ) to nostupidquestions in How did Android's update support become so inconsistent?
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  • Mrduckrocks ,

    Good explanation and lines in with why iPhone get years of support as they have full control of hardware and drivers.

    stappern ,

    a huge asterisk here. apple cuts off support to perfectly valid devices for greed. since they dont have any hardware limitation. an ipad mini 2 today is a brick basically, because fuck you buy another product bitch.

    ribboo ,

    I mean an iPad mini 2 would obviously struggle with iOS today due to hardware limitations.

    And you’re very much free to use it, problem is app developers do not find it worthwhile their time supporting older devices (we are talking devices that’s a minimum of five years old, more likely 7-8) so few use them and it impacts what they can and cannot do. Thus it becomes unusable.

    But all Apple apps will obviously still work.

    stappern ,

    I mean an iPad mini 2 would obviously struggle with iOS today due to hardware limitations.

    NO, it would not.

    you can take a 20yo laptop and run WIN 11 and the latest macos and the latest linux kernel.

    im sick of this excuse. you have been brainwashed if you REALLY think thats a limitation. it is NOT.

    ribboo ,

    My 10 year old Thinkpad barely qualifies as “running” windows 10, not Ubuntu for that matter. Haven’t bothered trying 11. I do partly agree with you, especially moving forward. But an iPad mini 2 has 1 gb of ram and 16 gb of space, both rather huge limitations for a mobile OS of today.

    stappern ,

    i can run the latest linux kernel on a device with 512mb of ram.

    My 10 year old Thinkpad barely qualifies as “running” windows 10,

    that laptop can run windows 10 just fine.it can run win 11 just fine and its gonna be able to run win 12 just fine.

    ribboo ,

    Did a computer bought to run windows 95 run XP? Did a computer bought for 98 run Vista? That’s a more fair comparison, as mobile operating systems are very young. And mobile devices from 10 years ago have hardware that could not really be compared to computers.

    Sure, processors at peak capacity where good. But forcing a 10 year old processor running todays software would drain the battery - that was also in no way comparable to today - to fast. And that is even if you could install the OS, as there is so little device space on many of them. Then you open one app and you’re out of ram potentially causing crashes all over the place, because mobile apps are rarely built for efficiency.

    It would be a horrid experience.

    stappern ,

    Did a computer bought to run windows 95 run XP?

    yes

    Did a computer bought for 98 run Vista?

    yes

    shit the brainwash is complete,i guess you are too far gone

    ribboo ,

    XP was based on the NT kernel while 95 was using DOS. You’re just plain wrong. Spec wise it would not have worked.

    And a computer built for 98 sure as hell did not reach the requirements to run Vista. Hell, many XP computers struggled and were not allowed to upgrade.

    You’re just plain wrong.

    stappern ,

    Sure buddy, keep licking the boot

    ribboo ,

    I’ll do that while you stick your head in the sand to facts

    stappern ,

    you make me sick

    Atemu ,
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    This only concerns the kernel which is rather unimportant when it comes to Android updates. You can keep using an ancient kernel for an insanely long time but upgrade the Android userspace. The vast majority of LineageOS devices use the original kernel they released with (+bug fixes, usually).

    Only when Android has a hard requirement on a new kernel feature do you need to actually upgrade it. This is usually end of the line for a device in custom ROMs because it is infeasible to do in most cases.

    Take the Oneplus One (bacon) for example. It was released oven 9 years ago with kernel 3.4 and only lost LineageOS support with Android 12 because that requires eBPF for firewalling apps which is a relatively recent addition to the kernel.

    The shims for the HAL you mentioned are in userspace. The original BLOBs they shim use the original OEM kernel interfaces in order to do their magic. It’s just that Android might require newer/different interfaces from the HAL BLOBs; that’s what the shims are for.

    Very_Bad_Janet , (edited )

    Kind poster, I understood about 4% of what you wrote and absorbed 2% (entirely not your fault). Would you say that this explains why Google only supports their Chromebooks for 5 years?

    ETA: My question is based on what you wrote here:

    Linux has LTS releases that are supported for 6 years. They release a new LTS every year. Each year, Google selects the latest LTS and builds the latest Android version against that release. They can add to the KMI when this happens, but it is frozen for that kernel version from then on. From there, they keep building Android against that kernel version until it is no longer supported.

    chrisphero , (edited ) to asklemmy in Why is most content on Lemmy just old memes?

    Don’t use the “all” feed. I only use it to discover new communities (but there is also a specific community for that).

    For my daily browsing I exclusively use the “subscribed” feed.

    Edit: the community I mentioned is lemmy.world/c/[email protected]or !newcommunities

    Kidplayer_666 ,

    My problem is that there ain’t enough content yet, so I browse all

    rikudou ,

    You can also block meme communities, that’s what I did.

    Blaze ,
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    What are your interests?

    There is !casualconversation !personalfinance, !parenting and !moviesandtv that are a bit out of the usual tech/memes/news bubble

    Kidplayer_666 ,

    Well… tech, news, memes. Also politics and history

    Blaze ,
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    Then there’s quite some content for you

    kersploosh ,
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    Please help by contributing content. Lemmy will not grow and thrive if we all lurk.

    Ghostalmedia ,
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    Yes, but still, if you want more new content right now, you’re going to need to browse All.

    The user base is a fraction of the size of Reddit.

    flipthetube ,

    I do the same because there isn’t a single community that I care about that isn’t silent if it even exists. Pretty damn boring.

    AFKBRBChocolate ,

    I’m with you. I blocked the most prolific meme communities and the main posting bots and my feed looks way better now. Remember that you can click on the community name and there’s a “block” option on the sidebar, which works on all views. Same with users.

    thetreesaysbark ,

    Wish I could do this with instances. Personally don’t want to scroll all and see a load of porn from lemmy.world, blurred or not.

    AFKBRBChocolate ,

    I’ll be surprised if that option isn’t coming soon, a lot of people have asked for it. In the meantime, there’s a profile setting for not showing NSFW content if that helps. Oh, and I’m betting that, like with Reddit, a giant percentage of the NSFW content comes from a much smaller set of communities, so you might try blocking those to at least reduce it.

    thetreesaysbark ,

    Tried the blocking communities. Unfortunately lemmy.world seems to have a sprawl of these that for individual kinks I guess.

    I’m not complaining too much that it’s there. Just annoying that it pops up.

    I didn’t block NSFW content to begin with because I thought there might be some gory stuff that I’m missing out on, but it turns out it’s all porn :D

    AFKBRBChocolate ,

    I think none of it is actually on .world, it’s almost all on lemmynsfw.com and a couple others.

    The gore (or, at least, deaths, is in c/Ukraine. I’d rather see the porn though.

    joulethief ,

    Can you tell us the name of the community you mentioned?

    freamon ,

    I assume they were talking about !newcommunities

    chrisphero , (edited )

    Sorry, I totally forgot to link it (I had it copied already), but here you go: lemmy.world/c/[email protected]

    I edited my post as well.

    Edit: !newcommunities

    CommunityLinkFixer Bot ,

    Hi there! Looks like you linked to a Lemmy community using a URL instead of its name, which doesn’t work well for people on different instances. Try fixing it like this: !newcommunities

    Swaziboy , to asklemmy in What's a scam that's so normalized that we don't even realize it's a scam anymore?

    Bank fees

    christophski ,

    I see you have no money… I’m going to have to charge you for that

    200ok ,

    They are exceptionally shitty for cash accounts since they are absolutely using the money for their own profit.

    If everyone took out all their liquid cash, the bank would crash (see; recent events.)

    MacroCyclo ,

    I don’t know if it is quite as simple as that. Most recently the bank failures were because those banks got upside down on bond holdings due to rate increases. If everyone chilled out and took their money out in appropriate time, then the bank would have had all the money. They just couldn’t get all the money immediately due to the duration of their bond holdings.

    Karyoplasma ,

    My bank wanted my to pay to have an account. I asked why and the answer was some bullshit about having access to their expertise on growing wealth. I told them, I would be growing wealth more quickly if I didn’t have to pay monthly fees, canceled my account and took my money to a bank that doesn’t charge for a basic money dump account.

    It’s ridiculous, banks make money by investing the trusted money of their customers. Why would I need to pay them in order to let them make money. They should pay me.

    Pattern ,
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    Credit unions are a much better option.

    PickTheStick ,

    Credit unions aren’t always perfect either. I switched unions because one started adding fees.

    Saneless , to asklemmy in why are companies trying so hard to have employees back in the office?

    Here’s the fun part:

    When execs were hyper focused on outsourcing, not once did they say productivity was a problem

    Second local workers wanted to do the same though, suddenly if you’re not in the office you’re useless.

    Which is it? Outsourcing is trash or WFH is just fine?

    HobbitFoot ,

    They outsourced because they could pay their employees less.

    Some companies attempted to pay workers who moved to areas with cheaper cost of living, but that failed. My guess is that full remote companies are going to shift wages so that they are closer to the national average than the region.

    Saneless ,

    I know why they did it

    It’s just a dumb argument when it wasn’t one before

    HobbitFoot ,

    They are looking at it from a productivity per hour basis.

    With offshoring, the individual worker is cheaper, so they can be less productive yet still worth it.

    With full remote, you are still paying the workers the same amount of money, so keeping productivity up may be worth it.

    andallthat OP , (edited )

    I saw someone else pointing out in the thread that fully remote companies would, in time, probably adjust their salaries too. (EDIT: ah, oops… it wasn’t someone else, it was always you!! Sorry!)

    As an employee, in the short term, I like to e.g. keep a London salary and save on housing and commute by moving to Manchester. But in a fully remote company there would be no “London” salary or London office at all, so salaries would be likely reflecting a blended national job market.

    The transition is certainly awkward for existing companies, though, as nobody wants a salary cut (which by itself could be a good explaination for them wanting to maintain the previous in-office status quo).

    Curious_Canid , to asklemmy in [Serious] How can a person "rejection-proof" their life?
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    In almost every case, the best defense against this is to be a genuinely good person. Treat everyone with kindness and you will get surprising amount of support.

    altima_neo , to fediverse in When you notice Lemmy is quieter than usual, then have a look at the Lemmy.world status
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    Those guys can’t catch a break. By whom or why are they getting attacked anyway?

    HellAwaits ,

    incels

    Boinketh ,

    Source?

    HelloHotel ,
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    this whole chain of comments makes no sense!

    SwallowsDick ,

    Now if there was only more content and communities, it would be like Reddit again

    Boinketh ,

    All I did was ask for a source :(

    HelloHotel ,
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    I understood your comment, its the other ones…

    Those guys can’t catch a break. By whom or why are they getting attacked anyway?

    Boinketh ,

    Oh, I assume you’re not a native English speaker. Altima starts by observing that the lemmy world admins seem to be having a difficult time, then goes on to ask who is attacking their servers and why. I hope that’s helpful!

    figaro ,
    Boinketh ,

    Source?

    A_A ,
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    This single post :
    lemmy.world/post/2874044
    lemmy.ca/post/2904207
    …has a comment from an hexbear user who thinks this is very funny. (hidden from here because we defederated them)

    relevantnanana ,

    You’re saying hexbear users are responsible?

    A_A ,
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    We sustained an attack right after their defederation, I have no proof now, maybe time will tell.

    roux ,
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    Gotta love a good baseless claim.

    A_A ,
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    Not a claim, an hypotesis.
    Could also be wrongful intervention from Reddit interests. Could be both and some more.
    “Gotta love” the scientific method !

    VolatileExhaustPipe ,

    That is now how any of that works.

    post hoc ergo propter hoc

    You can be wrong, it doesn’t destroy your self. You don’t have to fear it.

    A_A , (edited )
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    That is now how any of that works.

    You mean to say :
    That is not how any of that works.

    Edit : Ridiculous down voting scheme if I ever saw one 🤣.

    HaggierRapscallier ,

    First we had redditors calling Lemmy a communist plot. Now we have the biggest instance run by paranoids seeing commie plots everywhere.

    My suggestion: stop using lemmydotworld, spread the load, stop being a clown.

    VolatileExhaustPipe ,

    Hexbear was also experiencing traffic which would fit DDoS, do you suggest that dot world did DDoS Hexbear, too?

    Who poisoned the well? Its the witches fault!

    A_A ,
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    I don’t talk with unfunny liars.
    do you suggest that (…)

    lol !

    relevantnanana ,

    It could have been beehaw? I mean, I have exactly the same amount of proofthat you have.

    A_A ,
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    Being the biggest instance and having defederated with a couple of instances has made us a target.

    This is a quote from L.W.AdmiS’ post :
    Lemmy World outages

    At the time I made my first comment in here, there was no word from any admin, so, I had that (hypothesis //hunch //educated_guess) whatever you may call it. And then I wrote : “time will tell”. Well, I had the confirmation I needed for that L.W.Admin.

    Finally, if you need some more information, you may search it by yourself - - I have nothing more to say.

    relevantnanana ,

    Where does he say it was hexbear?

    HelloHotel , (edited )
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    thats not communism, thats red painted bullshit. please DO defederate from whatever the hell that is. remove trolls using false flags.

    my idiot self's old commentwithin these people are a sort of poison, one that entrenches them in their symbols and attack others with pride, like an idiot. the (alt? and regular?) right uses these losers and their corrupted ideas and flag clutching as ammunition (for example, against Trans folk).Edit: I was using a hammer when i nedded a scalpel. Generally dont like my rant written in anger. To be clear, Waving a communist or trans flag and then being a narcisist in public. It is either a false flag or an idiot. Result is a useful addition to a news media’s hyperreality.Edit: i am REALLY unhappy with this comment, i fail by leaving whats implied unsaid. A natural observer given a big name like CNN saying things is always at risk of treeting the whole movement like a tom and jarry cartoon. Antifa usually gets a bad reputation, is it warrented? I dont know because the news is designed to let you make short and usually wrong assumptions. One commenter was right, you fight the news by looking out the window and seeing the negbors arent loonitics and in fact rather lovely.

    Edit: i am still REALLY unhappy with this comment, also spelling I cant really speak on these issues as I need guidance more than answers. I have been told to not worry about the propaganda machine (my old and current psychological trap) and to rather be free of it and to free others by showing them a better place. I was merely dragging people into the machine I sought to destroy. for this I am sorry.

    GhostOfHoxha ,
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    the (alt? and regular?) right uses these losers and their corrupted ideas and flag clutching as ammunition (for example, against Trans folk).

    The local org that helps connect trans people with resources like housing and medical care is mostly made up of and run by ML’s. The idea that fascists would be kinder to trans people if ML’s stopped existing is ahistorical nonsense.

    HelloHotel , (edited )
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    I retract my old comment and want to fix it, im unhappy with it

    VolatileExhaustPipe ,

    The good old: “Actually people supporting trans are doing the right a service!”

    Pity that hexbear is a bastion of trans posters, which means you are effectively saying: “Trans people are (used by) right wing people as ammunition!” which is right, but right wingers do weaponize everything. There is no way to behave nice enough to complacence them.

    I have yet to find a post in your profile in which you do write public support for our trans comrades 🏳️‍⚧️. I doubt you will, but even if you do it it will remain performative unless you repeat it online, amplify trans voices and start to support your LGBTQ community in your meat space. However since you have no positive comment in the last month it is clear that you are objectively not supporting trans rights, since your only mention is how a group you disagree with - which itself does support trans rights - is hurting trans folk.

    To the audience Raise your hands if that does sound transphobe to you.

    The X are poison is a very common fascist talking point that is actually a verbatim quote of not only that, but Nazi propaganda.

    HelloHotel , (edited )
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    I retract my old comment and want to fix it, im unhappy with it. I am sorry

    Fawxhox ,

    Man hexbear is such a shit show. When chapotraphouse was a sub I was on there near 24/7 for like 2 years, and it was the best online experience I’ve ever had. Then they migrated over to hexbear and it’s like only the worst, most self righteous people from the community moved over. I’m literally the most left person I personally know by a wide margin, and I got called a reactionary and told to kill myself and then a mod agreed with them and banned me for a week over a blatantly pro trans comment that apparently wasn’t pro trans in the right way. Like it literally said “trans people should be able to do whatever the fuck they want with their body, I don’t care, it doesn’t effect me” and like 5 people were like “you ‘don’t care’ about trans people? Do the world a favor and fucking kill yourself, you’re literally butchering trans comrades with your comment”

    Rotten_potato ,

    Man, I’m happy I’m not the only one who feels like this. I had such a good time in the chapotraphouse sub and never forgave reddit for banning it. None of the offspring from there could really capture what made this sub special, the hexbear thing certainly can’t.

    midas ,

    Would be pretty sick if they effected us like a trans person comes around the corner and suddenly fireworks go off and glowsticks get handed out

    egonallanon ,

    I mean if you’re uu hang aorund at a pride parade these are very really things that might happen.

    lol ,
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    I’ll be sure to start doing that.

    Doesnotexist ,

    It literally kills me when people say literally when they mean figuratively.

    Fawxhox ,

    Multiple dictionaries define literally as figuratively, language changes

    Photographer ,

    Like it literally said “trans people should be able to do whatever the fuck they want with their body, I don’t care, it doesn’t effect me” and like 5 people were like “you ‘don’t care’ about trans people?

    This is why I keep quiet on issues like that, someone will always say you are wrong for not having their exact opinion and wording. Had a similar thing when I said a 5 year old boy can wear a dress without being a girl, just let them do what they want.

    GhostOfHoxha ,
    @GhostOfHoxha@lemmy.ml avatar

    A lot of it is contextual.

    Sometimes, it’s based on larger patterns of subtle behaviors that wouldn’t be indicative of a problem on their own.

    Sometimes, people are doing harmful things by accident because they grew up in a culture where those shitty things are normalized.

    Sometimes, people are doing things which would not be harmful on their own, but are associated with negative experiences that are only common for the minority group.

    Sometimes, people who have a long history of being timid have gotten fed up with putting themselves down for others’ comfort, so their pendulum swings the other way and we only see the tail end of that.

    And yeah, sometimes it’s someone who’s immature or aggressive for unrelated reasons and isn’t thinking super hard about what they’re doing beyond finding a weakness and attacking it. Social media design makes this worse. I think situations where that’s all it is are less common than we think, though.

    There’s also often ingroup/outgroup dynamics at play. And what makes it worse is that people who exist outside of the grey area of acceptable behavior, people who are just genuinely cruel, will do something cruel and then retreat and act like they belong in the grey area. They learn the ways that they act when people are genuinely uninformed or confused or curious and they copy them, all the while refusing to back down from the shitty thing they did. It’s kind of a charade put on for onlookers to make the victim look like the aggressor.

    For the specific issue you mentioned, the good faith interpretation is that, yes, boys can wear dresses. If that’s the end of it, that’s fine. But “wearing a dress doesn’t make you a girl” is also a common phrase used both by malicious transphobes and by misguided loved ones trying to talk their kids out of being trans. There are many reasons that discussions like these are so hard to get the phrasing’s right on is that we don’t have established social norms to make them easy. The established social norms, in fact, make them actively more difficult. And people are doing gender exploration in a matter of months that would have been spread out over years of their childhood if they’d been allowed to do so. It’s just a lot.

    I genuinely hear your frustration. I hope you hear mine. Learning all of this has been a painful process and I hope we can see it get easier in the near future.

    VolatileExhaustPipe , (edited )

    That isn’t literally what the person said, though. The modlog and profile on hexbear does show that they did also argue to post less about trans support, argued for people showing less support and did not accept when other, trans!, people explained their view and why he ought to chill out at least. So there was a repeated violation of server rules in a short span of time (and fawx did leave the server).

    The ban in the mod log is also for 1 day, not eternal (all of us are human and sometimes we are on rolls we wouldn’t continue after a good round of sleep). Don’t trust random people when it aligns with your bias.

    @GhostOfHoxha did give already a critique on your comment in content.

    VolatileExhaustPipe , (edited )

    I’m literally the most left person I personally know by a wide margin

    So you don’t count people you know online, you also don’t go to organizing union meetings, are not part of collectives and not part of a real left party (thus are likely an individualist, moralist, idealist liberal who will often - since there is little self critique and reflection - for example having thought how you could integrate parts of being anti racist in your life within a group). Of course you might be called a reactionary in some cases. Feel free to link to them, post those opinions in the un-safe space we got here as quote and people can do reflect on that. Taking your quote (which likely ignores context to present yourself in a better light) I have to say that:

    trans people should be able to do whatever the fuck they want" (good) "***********************” (bad)

    Yeah that is reactionary. You were rightfully banned as you broke server rules. There were enough campaigns i.e. “Read Trans Liberation!” for you to educate yourself. You didn’t. You are not the victim here.

    To break it down: You went into a space of solidarity and then climbed on a chair and yelled “I don’t care about [group you are supposed to be having a minimum degree of solidarity with]”. Everyone is able to understand that this is even if it is your uncle’s birth date and you would yell that you don’t care about your uncle it is a social faux pas. However what you did is much worse.

    cat-trans The website’s slogan at that point even was “We love our trans comrades!”

    Besides:

    and told to kl m*lf and then a mod agreed with them

    X: [Doubt]

    You already showed yourself to be an unreliable narrator, no reason to believe such an extraordinary claim.

    Edit Wonder who downvotes this post

    Edit2:

    CW in effect transphobia commited in a save space, with multiple repeating posts and comments and an unwillingness to see the perspectives of others, this is the context of what OP did post:

    spoiler> Is the constantly talking about being trans in leftist spaces not also fueling the over focus on trans people? removed by mod posted by fawx [he/him] to askchapo • > So no one thinks I’m a troll, I completely support trans people doing whatever the fuck they want with their bodies. And I don’t mind seeing trans stuff. But with that said, I feel like the hundreds and hundreds of posts I see about trans people is not helping. Going off like this site and a few others I browse you’d think trans people are like 40% of people instead of more like 2%. > I feel like constantly putting them in the spotlight, even to say you support them is just contributing to this “trans awareness burnout” I hear about in a lot of my non-leftist conversations.

    I heard things similar to that within the spoiler during the 80s when I did attend gay meetups, protests and LGBTQ* representation in media became slightly more common (while what we did was still criminal in many places). Turns out I wasn’t gay btw. I was bi (and that includes trans people as bi is defined as having attraction to more than one owns gender) and still am, but was, too. However the gay spaces were the spaces which enabled me to be myself and not the eternal cycle of “this is too much progress for the [women/black people/jews/italians/gays/insert minority/marginalized group of your choice]! they would progress more if they would be silent and try to pass as cis white evangelical hetero who eat meat and drink beer in unhappy marriages!”

    fawx has the capacity to change and act different, as well as to not slander thousands of users with re-tellings of stuff that didn’t happen like that and which minimizes their actions (which is understandable human, but it remains wrong. I do understand the emotional feeling of giving somebody a wipe as fawx did try to do with depicting hexbear as bad for excluding him for no reason - and the willing audience of people taking that for a fact instead of doing their due dilligence). Still the burden is on fawx to read, speak, listen and not primarily center themselves. If they are actually in the union they have enough ways to grow (attending IWW and other fighting unions organizing meetups and summer schools for example).

    diamat ,
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    This is the post that he got banned for. He basically barged into the space asking to tone it down with the trans support.

    raresbears ,

    Just to add to the context, here are some of the now removed comments from the log

    https://lemmy.ml/pictrs/image/284e343b-4b07-4765-beb0-083f8481d2bc.png

    Fawxhox ,

    I’m literally the union representative for my job, and most of your other assumptions are also wrong. You’re also doing an uncharitable reading of my post. I don’t care about trans people means “I am not bothered by them” like I don’t care whether we have hotdogs or hamburgers.

    You’re the kinda person that ruined that instance.

    raresbears ,

    Essentially blaming people expressing support for trans people for the right wing culture war focus on trans people is definitely a bit more than just saying you’re fine with trans people doing what they want. Stop being so dishonest about what people were pissed at you for. You know it wasn’t a “blatantly pro trans comment”

    Fawxhox ,

    Yeah, but it was and you’re wrong.

    VolatileExhaustPipe , (edited )

    Understandable since one is a government funded :fedbposting: psyop running on servers in the basement of the FBI building. The other is Reddit.

    Ayyyyyyy.

    Was the joke. If you take that as proof that that user and hexbear as aggregate are responsible you might need to breath a bit and do learn to be more critical of media. People making jokes about you(r misfortune) aren’t always out to get you.

    To explain the joke:

    dot world having a harder time with de federating Fascist propaganda (exploding heads and alike, while keeping their users) than with pre emptively doing a US centric Red scare and McCarthyism is quite funny and something the intelligence agencies of the US had in their hand books for over half a century. It is also often the action of liberals who think civility is more important that positive justice.

    However lets say a piece or two about @A_A, they are close to conspiracy thought sometimes.

    Join “Lemmy.world” ; here you can create your own communities 🙂

    Respect and thanks to the creators of lemmy-software, pretty sure they have friends (states) with big pockets 😆 !

    Yeah, cause FOSS means evil communist governments secretly funding open source software.

    They also regularly lie and misconstrue what people say.

    All in all the user is a good example how liberal moderation policy (or the lack of them) leads to gray and black propaganda and spheres that are not emancipatory.

    A_A ,
    @A_A@lemmy.world avatar

    This is for fun you should know. “friend state” hypotesis is a bit farfetch but :
    if it was false we wouldn’t know either.
    if it was true (maybe) it would be a global positive contribution from (Russia? China?). Also please notice the comment_link you provided (to one of my comments?) does not work at the moment because of a problem with lemmy.world servers.

    VolatileExhaustPipe ,

    I don’t talk with unfunny liars.

    A_A ,
    @A_A@lemmy.world avatar

    I’m very happy so. Feel free to never comment again about what I say.

    Draconic_NEO , (edited )
    @Draconic_NEO@lemmy.world avatar

    Probably by some group against the Fediverse or lemmy specifically.

    Draconic_NEO ,
    @Draconic_NEO@lemmy.world avatar

    Probably by some ground against the Fediverse or lemmy specifically.

    Ogmios ,

    Remember when VOAT was billed as a replacement for reddit, then it got DDoSed and spammed with CP until everyone forgot about it?

    Corporate interests don’t care about doing things legally at all, if they can figure out an illegal way to get what they want.

    droans ,

    then it got DDoSed and spammed with CP until everyone forgot about it?

    You sure that’s not because it first gained popularity after Reddit banned the jailbait sub?

    Doesnotexist ,

    VOAT had a reputation of being for the reddit rejected users. The worst of the worst of .

    It was not a pleasant place to lurk.

    Astroturfed ,

    Ya, I’d been looking for a decent alternative forever. Tried to scratch the itch there but man it was bad. Just infested with neonazi pedos to the nth degree.

    Ogmios ,

    Yea, largely because it was constantly down from DDoS attacks when it was starting to become popular with regular users.

    Touching_Grass ,

    I saw a comment that mentioned there was a user that was creating tons of communities and squatting on them. That user was called out and banned and they might be behind it. But its all rumours. Does anyone have more details on this rumour?

    cerement , to linux in What is your unbiased opinion on Manjaro?
    @cerement@slrpnk.net avatar

    if you want an Arch based distro, Endeavour OS is more popular – Manjaro has had a few issues over the years

    codenul ,

    Just switched to EndeavourOS about a week ago from Manjaro and been liking it so far.

    Biggest reason for the change was my manjaro install was getting cluttered, and moving over to a new distro ( taking all my previous knowledgement with it) has been a blessing.

    Beforehand, my Manjaro install was EFI, whereas my Windows 11 drive ( yes I know) was UEFI so switching on boot was an issue. Now both are on UEFI and show up within Grub.

    Endeavor OS has bluetooth turned off by default. Thought there was an issue but nope.

    So from no issues with updating, even with AUR turned on.

    I just like starting fresh and setting things up with all my previous knowledge.

    jimmy90 ,

    thanks to the archinstall tool it’s very easy to install arch the way you want to

    it’s much lighter than Manjaro and has been very stable for me

    Lenins2ndCat , to showerthoughts in I've noticed that lemmy as a whole is much more leftist than reddit (outside of political servers of course)
    @Lenins2ndCat@lemmy.world avatar

    Anti-corporate platforms don’t generally appeal to people that built and uphold the existing corporate status quo.

    The first wave here were anticapitalists, anarchists or communists. The second wave are the most anti-corporate “liberals”.

    doom_and_gloom , (edited )
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    I absolutely agree. I also think the irritating environment created by the current digital red scare trend will eventually subside once they move onto some new scare words because the existing ones are losing their edge.

    Marketsupreme ,

    Can you define a liberal for me? I usually call myself a progressive, but from my limited understanding I know liberals are generally pro-capitalists that usually posture morality to uphold capitalism.

    postmateDumbass ,

    And then does ‘neo-’ in front of lib or con just mean they colonize developing countries with banks instead of armies?

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  • postmateDumbass ,

    That’s just exporting the sharecropping/company town era economics beyond the media horizon.

    The IMF/World Bank vs Private Capital (vs China ) to fund infrastructure is the other angle.

    sauerkraus , to nostupidquestions in How did posting online change from, "Be careful what you put online!" to many sharing a lot under real names?

    Facebook. Simple as.

    ImaginaryFox ,

    I've been the weird one where I refused to make a real Facebook account and would make a throwaway with fake names when I'd need it for classes. What would prompt the creation of another throwaway would be when Facebook would lock my account and demand I send in ID or picture verification.

    Mateng ,
    @Mateng@kbin.social avatar

    Definitely Facebook's policy of demanding real world names and crushing down on anonymity and pseudonyms, around 2014: https://www.protocol.com/policy/anonymity-real-names-jeff-kosseff#toggle-gdpr

    nostalgicgamerz ,

    EYY I remember when they did that. That’s when I quit cold Turkey

    0x4E4F ,
    @0x4E4F@lemmy.fmhy.ml avatar

    Yep, most definitely. They were the first.

    Jakeroxs ,

    MySpace I think

    shortwavesurfer , to technology in Non right-wing tech podcasts?

    Odd. I have never found a tech podcast that is right wing. All of them i have ever heard are done by lefties

    blah ,

    Same, I would actually be curious to listen to a right wing tech podcast as the two concepts clash so hard in my brain.

    HappyMeatbag ,
    @HappyMeatbag@beehaw.org avatar

    I don’t listen to tech podcasts at all, but now that you mention it, the concept seems odd to me, too. Tech involves objective facts, scientific reasoning, and logic, which are three things I definitely don’t associate with modern conservatism.

    lckdscl ,
    @lckdscl@whiskers.bim.boats avatar

    Tech involves objective facts, scientific reasoning, and logic

    Maybe the making of tech is, but its application and relevance in modern society is, at the end of the day, a sociological phenomenon.

    HappyMeatbag ,
    @HappyMeatbag@beehaw.org avatar

    Ooh, I didn’t consider that. Good point!

    kukkurovaca ,
    @kukkurovaca@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

    Tech also involves corporate $$, “disruptive” (read: anti-worker) innovation, etc. the general skew of tech as an industry seems center-right to me plus lots of tech bros fully engaged (sometimes “ironically”) with the alt right.

    At the local level, tech bros form natural partnerships with right wing interests around gentrification and policing.

    kool_newt ,

    I think this is where “compartmentalization” comes in. Similar in concept to how you are forced to wall off sadness when a loved one dies so that you can continue to live your life, I think there are mentally competent right wingers, but they wall off the logic and reasoning so that it applies only to machines. They do this because if those ideas of logic and reason get beyond the wall/outside of the compartment, the meaning of their lives falls apart.

    Banzai51 ,
    @Banzai51@midwest.social avatar

    Tech involves a lot of do x, y, and z to get outcome a with no ambiguity. That appeals to a lot of the right wing.

    ondoyant ,
    @ondoyant@beehaw.org avatar

    engineering types do seem to fall off the conservatism cliff more frequently than other science-adjacent professions. so do surgeons, for some reason? at least from what i’ve observed. i think something about high performance, high pay jobs that require specialized education can make a person more vulnerable to brain worms.

    lckdscl ,
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    Not specifically about podcasts, but I think there’s a minority (?) of privacy/security enthusiasts who are pretty overtly right-wing libertarians, often because those technologies are anti-establishment. Think Luke Smith. I’ve also met people in the tech sphere (both on the I love Big Tech as well as FOSS side) who have very traditionalist, borderline right-wing opinions.

    alyaza ,
    @alyaza@beehaw.org avatar

    Not specifically about podcasts, but I think there’s a minority (?) of privacy/security enthusiasts who are pretty overtly right-wing libertarians, often because those technologies are anti-establishment.

    yeah–the “techno-libertarians”, as i’ve personally taken to calling them. that tendency was also the case on reddit in the early days (and to some extent still influences the site’s cultural lean) and seems to be particularly common among stereotypical Silicon Valley types. a big calling card of that group is usually waxing poetic about the need to preserve almost unfiltered freedom of speech even though no website trying to preserve that has ever gone well.

    Hazzia ,

    Even though they’re both “anti-establishment”, it’s funny looking at the differences between techno-libertarians and techno-anarchists. They both claim to want the same thing, but one side mostly just looks for unregulated systems that they can early adopt and exploit profit from, and the other side regularly gets their hard drives confiscated by the FBI.

    jarfil ,

    Anarchists will always get persecuted by any state, their goal is to abolish the state itself, and no state is going to go down without a fight.

    Libertarians on the other hand, while they share some of the same ideas, can fly under the radar… but only as long as they don’t oppose those of the state, like in an individualist capitalist one, not so much in a communist authoritarian one.

    comicallycluttered , (edited )

    There’s a dude who does Linux videos.

    Kind of went off the rails one day after one of the really bad mass shootings happened and he got all worked up about gun control.

    I think this was actually after Trump was elected. Might have been the Vegas shooting. I remember because it was also when DuckDuckGo was getting shit from these people about not promoting Russian propaganda, which “interferes with free speech” or whatever the fuck one of their taking points is.

    Actually, it might not have been after one of the shootings. But it was definitely around the time these people were complaining about DDG (and I think that was a while after the Vegas shooting) and it kind of devolved into complaining about gun control.

    I didn’t really watch him much, but I haven’t bothered since. Can’t even remember the channel name. Some bullshit. Dude was obsessed with xmonad.

    BlunderWoman ,
    @BlunderWoman@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

    It’s distrotube

    He also made videos complaining about GNOME’s code of conduct and Mozilla’s suggestion to deplatform Nazis.

    jarfil ,

    They’re really ideologies orthogonal to each other:

    • Technologist/Luddite
    • Progressive/Conservative
    • Anarchist/Libertarian/Statist/Authoritarian
    • Communist/Socialist/Capitalist

    The “right wing tech”, in a US-centric definition, would likely fall under “conservative libertarian capitalist technologist”, which is a possible combination.

    BraveSirZaphod ,
    @BraveSirZaphod@kbin.social avatar

    There's very much a Peter Thiel-esque type of libertarian tech bro - think the crypto fanatics, the Elon Musk fanboys, etc. Or, tangentially, how New Atheism collapsed in part because some women had the audacity to point out that sexual harassment is a thing. On a similar note, just go onto any online video game and openly announce yourself to be gay or a woman.

    Geek culture and its associated cultures have always had an undercurrent of sexism, probably not unrelated to the fact that they're historically dominated by somewhat awkward or lonely men. That feeling of male angst and isolation is absolutely something that the Right has been able to successfully exploit. Take Gamergate, for instance.

    ulkesh ,
    @ulkesh@beehaw.org avatar

    When Noah was on some of the Jupiter Broadcasting podcasts, he had a number of right-wing editorialized viewpoints during discussions. Chris didn’t seem to bite much on them (at least, at the time), so I’m guessing Chris didn’t care for it much (speculating here). I stopped listening simply because of off-handed comments I’d hear Noah make. It didn’t happen that often, but it was enough to put me off listening. I honestly suspect Noah is more center than right-wing, but I’d much rather he just kept on topic and checked his political leanings at the door.

    Now that it’s Chris and other hosts, Linux Action News and Linux Unplugged might be good ones to check out, if you’re into Linux.

    1993_toyota_camry ,
    @1993_toyota_camry@beehaw.org avatar

    Yeah I think it was just Noah. Chris hosted a news podcast for a while that treaded into some conspiracy areas, but wasn’t right-wing.

    Either way I find their current setup pretty good at staying away from politics unless they’re directly related to the technology conversation at hand.

    doogiebug OP ,

    I’m still pretty new into looking, this post was inspired by listening to Self-Hosted and one of the hosts has a “news” podcast and one of the more recent episodes was recommending other creators, which were like Megyn Kelly and right wing people :( There were also a few YouTubers that I tried to get into to learn networking but some of them had rant videos about women and stuff. I maybe could have worded it as also like…not corporate-worshipping codebro type podcasts? If that makes sense. There seems to be a lot of libertarian types in computer networking and I just wanted some recommendations by people who have been listening longer than I have.

    nicholas ,

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  • nicholas ,

    Lmfao you immediately dug through my post history. If that’s not hilarious I don’t know what is.

    Lionir ,

    Hi nicholas, this comment is not made in good faith and definitely doesn’t fit within Beehaw’s ethos. I believe you know this considering your previous break. Goodbye.

    kadu , to nostupidquestions in Is having an Android really a deal-breaker for some people?
    @kadu@lemmy.world avatar

    In some social circles, yes. Teenagers tend to cling into anything that could potentially be interpreted as a social status symbol or group identity - in the US, for some bizarre reason, people still use the default messaging app and SMS so iMessage and it’s “green vs blue bubble” design immediately fills this space. This can also show up in very shallow dating scenes, like someone using Tinder and just looking for a random hook up with a nice dinner beforehand - they could see the iPhone as a sign of wealth and available money to spend.

    But for most adults, living normal lives… I don’t think so. At least, never have been an issue with any of my friends, family members, academic peers, coworkers…

    NewNewAccount ,

    in the US, for some bizarre reason

    Is it really that bizarre to use the default messaging app that uses the most widespread protocol(s)?

    kadu ,
    @kadu@lemmy.world avatar

    Yes? SMS is ancient, limited, and Apple’s added proprietary layer on top of it isn’t interoperable so “most widespread protocol” doesn’t even make sense.

    There’s a reason Asia, Europe and South America aren’t using SMS in 2023.

    And you know, it’s a smartphone, installing apps is kinda the whole point.

    deweydecibel ,

    I think you are misunderstanding what the average person does with their phone. The vast majority of people have phones and the vast majority of them are not tech literate enough to go into the app store looking for how to message people. They just use defaults.

    ABCDE ,

    Yes they are, they are… Everyone in Europe. I don’t know a single person, including those in their 70s and 80s, without WhatsApp or Facebook Messenger.

    fluke ,

    Yes, because that’s socially forced on us. I don’t want to have multiple different messaging apps (2 of which from the same fucking megacorp) to have to navigate around.

    Person A like to message via app A, but person B likes to message via app B, and person C messages via both app A and B so it’s impossible to keep a fucking unbroken line of conversation going etc etc.

    Not to mention that means that I HAVE to have these apps on my phone as a result. No matter how strict you set up your privacy controls to restrict their access, there’s inevitably shit that they still scrape from you, even stuff you’ve specifically rejected access to.

    And then on top of all that, you’re giving them all of your conversaions with people. They may tell you it’s all encrypted and all that shit, but I don’t entirely believe it.

    It drives me up the wall. Let me have one messaging app. Let it be the default app on the phone.

    kadu ,
    @kadu@lemmy.world avatar

    Well… If the entire world except one region manages to install a third party messaging app, I’d say I’m not misunderstanding anything and the average person is more than capable of doing so. WhatsApp is installed in over 92% of Brazilian smartphones - this includes grandmas, tech illiterate people, and all other examples you couldn think of.

    gdbjr ,
    @gdbjr@lemmy.world avatar

    Apple didn’t add anything on top of SMS. iMessage users data and has all the ‘cool’ features. If it cant reach someone via iMessage it falls back to plain old SMS.

    kadu ,
    @kadu@lemmy.world avatar

    Yes. It falls back to the protocol that doesn’t have any of the last 20 years worth of added features. How amazing.

    Earthwormjim91 ,

    Right, the rest of the world uses…. other proprietary messaging apps that have no interoperability between them. You can’t talk from signal to WhatsApp, or WhatsApp to telegram, or telegram to signal. You all need to be using the same messaging app.

    The reason why the rest of the world never really got on with SMS in general is because most providers elsewhere in the world still charge for SMS messages while they’ve been free in the US for over a decade. When you have to pay for texts, you tend to look for an alternative real quick.

    BackStabbath ,

    The thing is the interaction between Apple and Android phones is shit through SMS, and that’s entirely Apple’s fault. I’m pretty sure everyone would be more happy using an app that works for everyone. If you take India for example, almost everyone uses WhatsApp. There’s just straight up no concept of not having WhatsApp. It works the same for both operating systems. So the myth that it’ll be difficult to unite with one app isn’t really true. I don’t like Meta any more than the next person, but the messages are end to end encrypted and lets iPhones and Androids communicate as equals. I’ll definitely take that over one group having a superior experience and the other having a subpar one. I doubt you can really refute that, as there isn’t really another solution due to Apple’s pigheadedness. Sure, you could use Signal to not use a Meta app. But SMS with an uncooperative giant company isn’t the way.

    corb3t , (edited )

    WhatsApp is great at marketing their e2ee, but nobody talks about the fact that they have so many backdoors out in the wild - they’re found annually. See: How Jeff Bezos’s photos were hacked.

    BackStabbath ,

    That’s fair. I’ll be honest when I say that I’m ok with sacrificing some privacy for convenience. Many people on this platform wouldn’t agree with that. Not using WhatsApp in my country basically isn’t an option unless you just want to be a loner that doesn’t contact anyone, and I’m not the type to call people all the time.

    sauerbraten42 ,

    Maybe not bizarre, but I think the regional differences are just intereting. I am living in central europe and I honestly don't know anyone who used SMS in the last 5-10 years. The only reason to use it is when your data ran out.

    derpo ,

    As someone who had visited Europe a ton , I know why you guys use Whatsapp. It’s because you all have so many weird phone numbers lol

    RoboticMask ,

    No, it’s because WhatsApp was free at a time where SMS were not (you might have a few included in your plan, but you couldn’t rely on that)

    eggest ,
    @eggest@kbin.social avatar

    Yeah my last 52 texts are all from companies about my orders or my bills etc. No actual humans use SMS anymore

    PostnataleAbtreibung ,

    I think it is, especially when the default doesn’t communicate well with a different ecosystem (Android vs iOS). So installing a app that gives you more features than plain text and works with all relevant mobile os worlds absolutely makes sense.

    theblueredditrefugee , to showerthoughts in joining the fediverse to bitch about reddit is the same as going on a date, and spending the whole night talking about your ex

    The fediverse has gradually shifted from being 75% posts complaining about reddit and 25% other to being 25% posts complaining about reddit, 25% posts complaining about how people come here to complain about reddit, and 50% other. We be makin progress!

    LemmyTellYouThis ,

    Kinda the natural order of things, Reddit had a lot shitting on Digg in the beginning too. Just takes time

    nofacade ,

    Except the 50% other is now 49% complaining about Meta

    MooseBoys ,

    50% other

    You mean “beans”

    WackyTabbacy42069 ,

    Beans

    Fryboyter , to linux in Arch Linux isn't up to date anymore

    In general, I would like to note that a rolling distribution does not necessarily always have to offer the latest packages as soon as possible. Rolling primarily only means that updates are offered gradually via the same package sources.

    But this is just a general remark. :-)

    Raphael ,
    @Raphael@lemmy.world avatar

    The Arch narrative is changing! We’re witnessing a historical moment!

    Buffalox , to youshouldknow in YSK: Flossing your teeth is only uncomfortable when your gums are unhealthy

    Yeah well, my teeth were so tight you couldn’t squeeze any floss through. My dentists generally refused to believe it and one insisted on demonstrating. After squeezing very hard, he finally succeeded getting the floss through, at which time the floss immediately broke. Zero flossing actually occurred, the dentist was embarrassed and confused, and pretended it didn’t happen, and made no comment about what else I should do, since I CLEARLY couldn’t floss. Only result was I had a piece of floss stuck, and It took me weeks to finally get rid of that frigging floss thread from between my teeth.

    Quite frankly, I’m more than a little tired of reading mundane advise for people with normal teeth, who probably know this already.

    Yes people who have ordinary teeth, can use this common and obvious advise.

    Frenchy ,

    Same - I could never understand interdental brushes. How the hell was I supposed to get that between my teeth when even I waxed floss won’t fit? So I gave up and now use an electric toothbrush +waterpick when I can be arsed. My dentist is more than happy so I guess I’m doing ok.

    Buffalox ,

    I later found out to flush thoroughly. It would have been great to have been advised on that 25 years ago, instead of the constant talk about flossing.

    Flushing really is extremely efficient, I never tried a waterpick, but I’m guessing that’s even better.

    Nachorella ,

    What is flushing exactly? Is it just violently swishing water through your teeth? I do that and find it works better at getting stuff out than flossing most of the time.

    Buffalox ,

    Yes that’s basically it, you can get special mouthwash to use instead of water. that should prevent bacteria for longer. I generally just use water, but I do it each time I’ve brushed my teeth. And it really makes a difference.

    Izzy ,
    @Izzy@lemmy.world avatar

    Agreed on the water pick. It’s really just a high powered stream of water, but not so powerful as to cut you. Although against delicate gums it may still cause bleeding like floss.

    BarrelAgedBoredom ,

    The bleeding goes away quicker with a water pick too

    MajorHavoc ,

    I know someone who has this for decades, only to have it clear up - loosen up and become flossable - after they had their wisdom teeth removed.

    Fangslash , (edited )

    same, and this will compound as less flossing leads to tartar build-up, which makes flossing/brushing even harder.

    On another note, get a waterpick, its a life changer!

    allroy ,

    just got one last week after my dental hygienist recommended it. I love it! blasting that crud out is my favorite thing!

    Aim413 ,

    In case you (nor the dentist) haven’t tried, there’s also flat floss that’s like a strip of paper. Oral B Satin Floss is one that is available where I live. Hope it might be of help!

    Buffalox ,

    It was the flat one he used, and yes I’ve tries with the Oral B Satin too. Apart from not working for me, it doesn’t seem to be able to do much cleaning even if it did.

    I flush or rinse whatever it’s called instead. That works fine for me.

    Bosa , to showerthoughts in If Lemmy and Mastodon continues to get popular, we will eventually get Instance wars.

    Ya there probably will be, but in the end it doesn’t matter which is the beauty of this platform.

    gvasco ,

    Cause I tried so hard …

    shotgun_crab ,

    And got so far

    MrSteve920 ,
    @MrSteve920@lemmy.world avatar

    But in the end

    Mewtwo ,
    @Mewtwo@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

    Lemmy.ml sucks

    s4if ,
    @s4if@lemmy.my.id avatar

    It doesn’t even matter

    MrBakedBeansOnToast ,

    c/lemmysings

    ICastFist ,
    @ICastFist@programming.dev avatar

    I had to fall

    boeman ,

    No… No. No. NO!

    XiELEd ,

    Goddamit, the chains have returned

    ICastFist ,
    @ICastFist@programming.dev avatar

    Singing chains are inevitable

    macisr OP ,

    True, and now that i’ve tried this, the “corporate” social networks feel primitive somehow.

    intensely_human ,

    Like going to Six Flags after your first Burning Man.

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