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MEGA THREAD - Trump shot but safe, 2 others killed at PA rally

WHAT

  • Former U.S. President Donald J. Trump was shot at a rally in PA.

TRUMPS STATEMENT

“I want to thank The United States Secret Service, and all of Law Enforcement, for their rapid response on the shooting that just took place in Butler, Pennsylvania. Most importantly, I want to extend my condolences to the family of the person at the Rally who was killed, and also to the family of another person that was badly injured. It is incredible that such an act can take place in our Country. Nothing is known at this time about the shooter, who is now dead. I was shot with a bullet that pierced the upper part of my right ear. I knew immediately that something was wrong in that I heard a whizzing sound, shots, and immediately felt the bullet ripping through the skin. Much bleeding took place, so I realized then what was happening. GOD BLESS AMERICA!”

WHAT WE THINK WE KNOW SO FAR

  • gunman is dead
  • Trump "is fine"
  • one attendee is dead
  • another attendee is in critical condition

News Sources

RememberTheApollo_ ,

I bet Trump is perversely happy he got shot. He can be a Real Brave Man, now. How much attention it gets him. How much more clout he believes he will get because he will weasel some political capital out of it. Heaven help us if the shooter was liberal, this man is fine with dog whistling violence and more than a few of his followers are itching to engage in it. It won’t matter one whit how many people have been killed or hurt by right wingers.

massive_bereavement ,

When 9 11 happened, people had different reactions: sadness, fear, shock... people like Dick Cheney immediate reaction was: what can I gain from this.

I'm pretty sure Trump runs on that exact mentality.

SeaJ ,

When 9/11 happened, Trump bragged about having the tallest tower in the city even though he did not.

Trainguyrom ,

“I got shot and it wasn’t so bad, why do we need legislation to prevent unsafe access to guns?”

lepinkainen ,

He should allow guns in his rallies then 😜

It’s a constitutional right and all, or is he scared?

MutilationWave ,

On Jan 6 Trump noticed that a lot of the crowd would not pass the magnetic detectors to get in close for his speech. He realized it was because they were armed. “Take the fucking mags away” he said. Because he knew he was going to be up there behind bulletproof glass.

Maggoty ,

They even managed to get a triumphant picture out of it. The Secret Service is surrounding him, he’s bloody but holding his fist high, and the American flag is perfectly framed in the background. This shit is going to pump his polling numbers. All he has to do is put whatever fake nationalist bullshit he wants over that picture for 30 seconds and it’s an instant ad in battleground states.

Soltros ,

What peeves me is that the right are all clutching their pearls about anyone who says anything other than blind Trump sympathy. Don’t get me wrong, political violence is wrong. But, remember this:

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/00272d4b-7e6c-4a9e-b788-88ec2d8882a9.jpeg

When Paul Pelosi got his face bashed in with a hammer, the right made fun of it. Mocked him. Idk, man.

kescusay ,
@kescusay@lemmy.world avatar

That shit was amazingly disgusting. And yeah, Trump gets no sympathy from me. But I won’t call for his death, either. I want him to live a very long time. In prison.

HappycamperNZ ,

What about half way.

Permanent disability, less ability to look after himself, a lifetime in pain.

snooggums ,
@snooggums@midwest.social avatar

I’d be happy with aggressive pancreatic cancer, because it will feel like a lifetime for him and shut him up faster.

ZILtoid1991 ,

There are people on the right, that would call you out on even that. They’re gaslighting anyone left of Mussolini on what are the rules they should be following.

snooggums ,
@snooggums@midwest.social avatar

He can still incite violence and rally his base from prison.

kescusay ,
@kescusay@lemmy.world avatar

Not if he can’t get on video. The man’s bizarre hold on his base is all about his verbal delivery. If he has to rely on written messages, he can’t verbally circumvent the higher brain function in his victims and they’re more likely to actually become aware that his messages are gibberish.

ByteOnBikes ,

This is what is so frustrating.

Conservatives call for violence; Call for rising up; Literally calling themselves DOMESTIC TERRORISTS: Absolutely a nothing burger. Just a bunch of locker room talk. Relax that’s normal conservative speech.

Liberals blinking aggressively: WHY ARENT YOU MORE TOLERANT BE BETTER.

BonesOfTheMoon ,

Omigod I didn’t know about this.

SeaJ ,

Have we considered that the gunman might be a jilted lover? /s

Delusional ,

Maybe it was the father of one of the children trump raped.

CasualPenguin ,

Or how about when he said that if he lost to Clinton:

“If she gets to pick her judges, nothing you can do, folks. Although the Second Amendment people — maybe there is, I don’t know.”

LustyArgonianMana ,
@LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world avatar

kansascitydefender.com/…/trump-shooting-antifa-co…

Right-Wing Accounts Launch Mark Violets Antifa Conspiracy in Light of Trump “Assassination Attempt

Please note this is a DEBUNKED conspiracy per the link above, the shooter’s identity is unknown at this time

kabe , (edited )
@kabe@lemmy.world avatar

Shooter appears to be a white male, aged 20s or early 30s by the look of it. The t-shirt he was wearing is allegedly marked with branding for a firearms-related YouTube channel.

x.com/Shadi_Alkasim/status/1812315218258833590

Edit: Possible suspects are either Maxwell Yearick, previously arrested while demonstrating against Trump in Pittsburgh on a previous occasion, or a Thomas Matthew Crooks, according to the NY Post.

Hasn’t been officially ID’d yet though, so still speculation.

NotAnotherLemmyUser , (edited )

Looks like Thomas Matthews Crooks is not the right guy

Edit 2: but there are a lot of images/videos of the wrong guy going around.

He posted a video saying “you’ve got the wrong guy” but looks like he’s been talking to lawyers and decided to make his whole account private now".

youtube.com/shorts/DM9SVbojbl4

https://x.com/ValorMG/status/1812357749784936512

Edit: Maybe? It could be that the name is correct, but the guy you see in the video is definitely not him.

kabe ,
@kabe@lemmy.world avatar

All the major outlets are reporting that the FBI confirms it’s him now. Very confusing, all round.

archive.is/…/fbi-identifies-thomas-matthew-crooks…

archive.is/20240714055509/https://…/74396853007/

NotAnotherLemmyUser ,

I see a lot of outlets claiming that the FBI identified him, but I don’t see any actual statements from the FBI themselves (beyond a statement asking for more information from the public). Skimming through the various articles with his name and I can’t find any links to an actual source either. I might have missed a video somewhere.

It could be that the name is correct, and this guy was baiting journalists into showing his picture and lying about his real name.

Wrench ,

To be fair, I would label anyone trying to kill Hitler as an anti fascist. Unless it’s someone trying to take over in his place, at least.

SeaJ ,

Many of the people trying to kill Hitler were fellow fascists.

return2ozma ,
@return2ozma@lemmy.world avatar

Gun traced to suspect’s dad, was legally purchased

abcnews.go.com/…/donald-trump-rally-shooting-assa…

ayyy ,

In that case I guess he should just “get over it and move on.”

fox2263 ,

“Much bleeding took place”

0ops ,

I actually loled when I got to that part

afraid_of_zombies ,
afraid_of_zombies ,
Hugh_Jeggs ,

Any word on how the attendees got shot? Can’t see anything in articles

SeaJ , (edited )

Well there were four five to seven gunshots shot from a rooftop. Going to guess two of those hit a couple attendees.

Hugh_Jeggs ,

Hit a couple attending, or hit a couple of attendees?

SeaJ , (edited )

A couple of attendees.

The guy killed, Corey Comperatore, was shielding his family from gun shots. He was a 50 year old volunteer firefighter.

reuters.com/…/trump-rally-shooting-victim-identif…

BigMacHole ,

I like Presidents who DON’T Fail their Assassinations!

danc4498 ,

Did you guys hear Richard Simmons died? So sad.

PPQ ,

And Dr. Ruth :(

clearedtoland ,

They noped out of wherever the fuck this chapter of America is headed.

goferking0 ,

Sadly was more surprised she was still alive. Thought she had already passed :(

Today ,

No way! Oh man! I feel like the teenage late night radio listening part of my heart just died.

jj4211 ,

And Shannon Doherty

meco03211 ,

I think Death has some explaining to do.

ImADifferentBird ,
@ImADifferentBird@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Clearly, God needed a little help getting in shape.

LifeInMultipleChoice ,

Guy tries to overthrow the country, and people are worried that someone tried to kill him. What is wrong with this world. If people aren’t trying to kill him we have something to worried about.

The justice system failed to arrest and detain the suspect and keep him imprisoned until charged properly. This isn’t a failure of the people, it is a failure of the government.

Cryophilia ,

We’re worried because of what will happen in retaliation.

echodot ,

I’m sure he will spin it into some grand conspiracy with very little evidence behind it. But his lunatic supporters don’t really need evidence of conspiracies so I’m not sure it’ll change anything very much.

Now if the bullet had hit him that would be a very different thing.

blanketswithsmallpox ,

True, unlike the packed supreme court, literal attempt at insurrection, already #1 terrorists in the USA according to the DHS and FBI…

zbyte64 ,

More like Gabby Gifford.

Tier1BuildABear ,
@Tier1BuildABear@lemmy.world avatar

Some countries deserve to have the government overthrown

Ghostalmedia ,
@Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world avatar

I’m so over politics in America. This shit is terrifying. People trying to overthrow elections, seniors that are too old to lead, voter suppression, people stuck in disinformation bubbles, and now assassins. Meanwhile, the rich just get richer, and “middle class” life just gets harder and harder.

I have dual citizenship with an EU nation from birth, and this week had made me start to dust off those childhood documents and look into the details of relocating.

hperrin ,

Good for you. Bye.

Psythik ,

Promise you’ll leave too?

hperrin ,

I have no intention of giving up the fight and fleeing. If progressives who can leave do, those who can’t are doomed to a Republican hellscape.

HappycamperNZ ,

Ooo, which one of us you looking at joining?

Hugh_Jeggs ,

Doesn’t matter, we’re not a bunch of tribalistic, bickering children

Anywhere is fine

iknowitwheniseeit ,

I mean, there are differences between EU countries! If you’re looking to get away from fascism then Hungary might not be your best bet, for example.

Valmond ,

France: fun when it comes to politics and strikes, good food etc.

Sweden/Denmark: calmest places on earth. Social climat : hardmode.

Southern europe: cool and laidback.

Hugh_Jeggs ,

Hungary is not part of Europe, it’s part of Russia

iknowitwheniseeit ,

Isn’t the president of Hungary literally the EU president at the moment. 🤔

Hugh_Jeggs ,

iknowitwheniseeit

Except sarcasm 😂

Pandoras_Can_Opener ,

They are literally in the EU.

EatATaco ,

Every time I’ve read someone shitting on America, and then they mention something like not being American, if you ask where, the question is always avoided.

Snapz ,

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  • Tryptaminev ,

    You thinking the secret service would conspire with Trump to stage an assassination attempt is absurd.

    The rest is very simply answered with people under shock do not act rationally

    Snapz ,

    Reading is fundamental: vox.com/…/secret-service-text-messages-january-6

    And trained secret service agents are not “people under shock” they are deliberately trained solely to activate and thrive in these exact moments.

    dactylotheca ,
    @dactylotheca@suppo.fi avatar

    Reading is fundamental: vox.com/…/secret-service-text-messages-january-6

    I love it when people think that the only reason someone wouldn’t agree with them is because they’re uninformed or stupid. It couldn’t possibly be that people could disagree with your premises, it’s definitely just that they aren’t informed enough to agree with your galaxy brain take

    Emmie ,

    Wow you are so calm and level-headed. I would be tempted for twice at least for a good measure. What if they missed it?

    TheDannysaur ,

    This is the dumbest shit and we need to fucking grow up a bit. These “questions” are asinine and not that hard to explain.

    1. Not denying the incident was reported, but there’s a heavy insinuation here that this was set up or manufactured. If so… They needed an entire Secret Service detail, local event police and everyone standing by to be in on it. A couple hundred people are going to be involved and no one leaks it?
    2. “Supposed” gunman. I like how you pivot from “this is probably set up” to “ok even if it was real Trump is capable of worse”
    3. Again, the insinuation of an inside job here. We’re going to involve a hundred or more people and no one thought it would be a problem to kill a bystander? Or the gunman was so good he killed a specific plant? And they had a 100% success rate… No one heard the plan and thought “oh this is a bad idea” and spoke out about it?
    4. Big difference between deleting text messages and MURDERING AN AMERICAN to further a political agenda.
    5. Yes. Things happen all the time. Trump people are saying this is to distract from Biden being inept. There’s always a convenient time.
    6. Yes you dumbshit he was concerned about his hat because they already had the all clear. The shooter got taken out in seconds. They wouldn’t have moved Trump. And they all were saying it was all clear. Also have you ever seen people in an absolute panic? Not the most rational state. Same thing with his shoes. That’s ALSO why he took the photo op. They all dove on top of him. They figured out the shooter’s location and took him down before Trump even got up.

    There’s pictures of the fucking bullet in flight. So either that was ALSO manufactured (a member of the press willingly heard the plan ahead of time and doctored a photo or they actually shot a bullet inches away from Trumps head AND captured it). But no let’s just get Trump, a bumbly ass fuck to orchestrate this perfectly. I’m sure he had it a planned to go down, and everyone covered him and he pulled out a razor blade, cut his ear, and put it away, all perfectly executed and no one caught anything on camera from any of the dozens of angles.

    This shit is so fucking stupid and I’m so sick of hearing about it. These points all rely on the most ass backwards way of thinking where dozens of people are in on this conspiracy and relies on all of them bring cool with killing someone to make it good for Trump.

    Get this shit outta here. This doesn’t deserve the pixels on the screen used to illuminate this nonsense. Be a fucking grown up. We’re going to have to figure out a real way to beat Trump, not pretend this was some false flag bullshit. Accept reality. Be a goddamn adult.

    I’m not even saying you’re wrong for questioning, but I am saying you are wrong because the sheer volume of things that would need to occur for this theory to be even remotely possible is so ridiculous, I would consider aliens an equally plausible situation.

    MonkderDritte , (edited )

    Lol no, that statement is way too comprehensible for Trump.

    SatansMaggotyCumFart ,

    I can’t wait for Trump to turn pro-gun control.

    AmbiguousProps ,

    Trump’s gun control: if white and conservative, you can own any firearm, if not, good luck

    people_are_cute ,
    @people_are_cute@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

    LOL, Trump’s shooter was unironically white and registered Republican.

    zbyte64 ,

    No wonder I don’t hear much about his identity from the GOP…

    kescusay ,
    @kescusay@lemmy.world avatar

    Wouldn’t be the first time. Conservatives are conservative up until the moment someone uses freedom from government oversight in a way that hurts or inconveniences them. Then they’re all, “There oughta be a law against blah blah blah” without an iota of self-awareness.

    FlyingSquid ,
    @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

    I like it when they say it’s not about guns, it’s about mental health and then you say okay, let’s have universal healthcare and they say, “no, not like that!”

    LustyArgonianMana ,
    @LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world avatar

    Right? I’m 100% ready to agree with them on the mental health aspect, let’s address that by giving people healthcare and access to food and housing

    But that’s not cruel enough for them

    Assman ,
    @Assman@sh.itjust.works avatar

    He literally said “take the guns, then do process [sic]” years ago

    username_unavailable ,
    MossyFeathers ,

    then do process

    Heads up, it’s due process because it’s the process you’re due (the process you’re entitled to or that’s proper, expected, etc), not the process you’re doing.

    SatansMaggotyCumFart ,

    [sic] means they’re quoting as originally said, including mistakes.

    seathru ,
    @seathru@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

    He misspelled it when he spoke it? Because they are pronounced the same. And that’s not even the correct quote. So what is the [sic] for?

    SatansMaggotyCumFart ,

    You’d have to ask Assman.

    prole ,

    Also wouldn’t the [sic] be directly after “do” and not “process”?

    JackbyDev ,

    Could’ve been a tweet/toot.

    MossyFeathers ,

    I know, however I looked it up to see the context and it sounds like it was part of a spoken conversation, not written text. As such, the [sic] doesn’t make sense.

    SatansMaggotyCumFart ,

    You’re right.

    AnneBonny ,

    The bump stock ban overturned by the Supreme Court was put in place by Trump. He is not pro-gun.

    billiam0202 ,

    He’s not pro-gun. Neither is he anti-gun.

    He’s pro-Trump. He’ll say anything if he thinks he’ll get more money (and now, enough votes to escape his crimes). You won’t find a single issue he hasn’t flip-flopped on except “How can this make Trump richer?”

    AnneBonny ,

    He’s not pro-gun.

    I just said that.

    Neither is he anti-gun.

    I’m not very convinced of that.

    “It takes so long to go to court to get the due process procedures I like taking the guns early like in this crazy man’s case that just took place in Florida he had a lot of firearms and they saw everything to go to court would have taken a long, long time so you could exactly what you’re saying but take the guns first, go through due process second.” - Trump
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=du4xz6Lndxk&t=43s

    He’s pro-Trump.

    I wouldn’t argue with that.

    Jimmyeatsausage ,

    Man, I would love to watch his supporters work through the dissonance on that one. On one hand, they already chose Trump over their god… On the other hand, “come and take it” culture is right up there with evangelicalism as far as being really ingrained.

    SatansMaggotyCumFart ,

    Sure Trump wants to take some of our guns, but Biden wants to take them all!

    billiam0202 ,

    “Trump only wants to take the guns from those people, not us!”

    Conveniently ignoring the circle of who qualifies as those people is ever expanding…

    jeffw ,
    @jeffw@lemmy.world avatar

    I love when people downvote your comments as if half the shit you say on here isn’t facetious.

    Guys, I’m pretty sure they don’t actually think Biden is going to take your guns

    SatansMaggotyCumFart ,

    Nobody understands me.

    ABCDE ,

    Nah, they’ll just say they need more guns.

    goferking0 ,

    But he’s always been pro gun control?

    username_unavailable ,
    goferking0 ,
    Annoyed_Crabby ,

    So is anything came out from this?

    chiliedogg ,

    Trump was harder on guns than Obama was.

    toiletobserver ,

    I’ve been wondering where the crazies were on the left, and now i know

    JonsJava OP ,
    @JonsJava@lemmy.world avatar

    every family has crazies. With that said, we don’t know who it was, their reasoning, or their political leaning.

    Ioughttamow ,

    Or one of the many many people he defrauded. Or someone or a relative of one of his rape victims. Rapey Donald sure loves rapin

    hperrin ,

    Don’t forget committing felonies. A convicted felon and rapist was shot at today.

    Skanky ,

    Still a lot of disinformation going around, but it appears that the shooter was a registered Republican and was wearing a demolition ranch t-shirt.

    It’s all very bizarre.

    dactylotheca ,
    @dactylotheca@suppo.fi avatar

    it appears that the shooter was a registered Republican

    “Ah, a leftist who was so crazy that he voted R”

    – toiletobserver, probably

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