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pyrate37 ,

In bird culture we would call this “being a whiny little bitch”

dragon24 ,

Of course that’s what he wants to do. Reject all of them and then have the judge declare a mistrial when they can’t seat a full jury.

root_beer ,

I just like that, for the past couple of days, he’s had to sit there and listen to people offer their unfiltered opinions about him as they were entered into the public record. Honestly, I was kinda hoping it’d go on for another day or two so he’d have a rage stroke.

johannesvanderwhales ,

TBF I bet the prosecution feels the same way…the juror strike system is designed to make compromises.

Treczoks ,

But he can only make deals, not compromises.

Kolanaki ,
@Kolanaki@yiffit.net avatar

“Man, if I didn’t have to follow all these rules, I would be winning right now!”

Sam_Bass ,

Cant expect any different from the rotten orange pussy

aeronmelon ,

Oh, this isn’t The Onion, this is real news.

samus12345 ,
@samus12345@lemmy.world avatar

You couldn’t pay me enough to be a juror for that trial. Sure, just paint a target on my back for this cult leader who’s backed by half the government!

Akasazh ,
@Akasazh@feddit.nl avatar

I’d happily do it. I’m not a us citizen, though.

samus12345 ,
@samus12345@lemmy.world avatar

And I’m grateful for the people who are willing to do such a thankless task!

RagingRobot ,

They pay $15 a day where I live. I expect they will get similar lol

PM_Your_Nudes_Please , (edited )

Mine pays $4 for the first day, and $12 per subsequent day if the trial lasts longer than one day. Parking in the attached garage is $15 per day.

RagingRobot ,

Lol they give you the money then take it right back. You would think the justice system would be more fair than that

Verito ,

It’s a legal system.

Blackout ,
@Blackout@kbin.run avatar

You know how many times he's asked his lawyers if they could? At least a dozen.

Jaysyn ,
@Jaysyn@kbin.social avatar

Hah, get fucked you feckless moron.

ArbitraryValue ,

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    baru ,

    Trump mostly caused those issues though. He talks about these things constantly. Then argues the trial cannot start because there’s too much attention.

    Further, there is a pre selection. The judge rejected loads of people beforehand.

    tal ,
    @tal@lemmy.today avatar

    Trump mostly caused those issues though. He talks about these things constantly. Then argues the trial cannot start because there’s too much attention.

    Hmm. That might actually be a valid legal strategy. I’m not sure that the fact that the defendant caused the problem actually takes away their protections.

    Honestly, Trump is so globally visible that I don’t know how you’d remedy that, though. A change of venue isn’t going to change anything.

    ArbitraryValue ,

    To be fair, getting an impartial jury in this case is a lot harder than it would be normally.

    st3ph3n ,

    That’s what happens when the defendant is a polarizing fascist asshole.

    ArbitraryValue ,

    Maybe, but that’s not a crime and he shouldn’t be punished for it.

    PriorityMotif ,
    @PriorityMotif@lemmy.world avatar

    He chose to have a jury trial. Juries are inherently biased. It’s impossible for anyone to have missed the past 8 years of almost daily coverage of the dumb things he says and does.

    dogslayeggs ,

    No idea why you got downvoted. Nearly everyone will know who he is, since he was the damn President of the country. Nearly everyone will know a lot of stuff about him, since he never fucking shuts up on social media. He has a large percentage of the country who loves him and a larger percentage of people who absolutely hate him. Finally, the case and jury selection is in New York, where he has been in the news for 40 years.

    magnetosphere ,
    @magnetosphere@fedia.io avatar

    I agree. Trump has done everything possible to spread his propaganda and poison the jury pool.

    FuglyDuck ,
    @FuglyDuck@lemmy.world avatar

    That’s why they’re not allowed to ask nix people for being biased.

    Everyone already has their opinions. The best they can do is look for people that aren’t dogmatic.

    UnpluggedFridge ,

    People seem to think that a prior opinion about the dependent automatically means that a potential juror cannot be impartial. All that is required is that the juror can render a verdict based solely on the evidence presented at trial. Plenty of people with strong opinions about Trump himself can still be impartial jurors.

    ArbitraryValue ,

    I’m not sure that’s true. Even a person with a great deal of integrity and respect for the law is going to be biased subconsciously to some extent by the knowledge that this case may change the outcome of a particularly important presidential election. A person whose respect for the law is less than absolute may even consider affecting the outcome of the election to be a moral obligation.

    Feathercrown ,

    Hi government please choose me as juror I definitely will not intentionally give him the maximum sentence

    TheRedSpade ,

    The sentence isn’t determined by the jury.

    Feathercrown ,

    I can dream

    PriorityMotif ,
    @PriorityMotif@lemmy.world avatar

    More autistic people should be jurors. It would be the perfect job for certain autistic people who are very rules based.

    radicalautonomy , (edited )

    I agree. I am autistic and was a jury foreman about 20 years ago. It was pretty awesome, and I was helping keep the other jurors in line, reminding them when evidence submitted was deemed immaterial and not to be considered in our verdict…all that stuff. 10/10 Would perform my civic duty again (12/10 with rice)

    It would be an honor and a privilege to be on Pissbaby Don’s jury just to have the opportunity to find him guilty, but I’d have to avoid a for cause strike to do so. Thankfully, part of my autistic skill set is that I happen to be a fantastic liar. I don’t lie to people I care about, apart from spinning fantastic tales and then saying, “Naw, I’m just fucking with you. 😏”

    For Joe Schmo, rules-based impartiality. For Republican politicians, self-affirmed white supremacists, shit-stirring talking head bigots, and JK Rowling though, get fucked, here come your god-damned consequences.

    PM_Your_Nudes_Please ,

    Yup. And those 10 strikes are for exactly that. If you can’t prove a juror will be biased but suspect they will be, then you can use one of your 10 strikes to exclude them. But you have an unlimited amount of “for cause” strikes, where the juror has admitted that they wouldn’t be able to stay impartial.

    gAlienLifeform ,
    @gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world avatar

    “No one can judge me!” - Donald Trump literally

    Pistcow ,

    No, only you have unlimited strikes when it comes to the law. You threaten another person 483 more times, and we might fine you $1000.

    AlwaysNowNeverNotMe ,
    @AlwaysNowNeverNotMe@kbin.social avatar

    If you threaten the family members of a federal judge a few dozen more times we will slowly start to count down from 5.

    jkrtn ,

    I want to say the punishment fits his mental age but how do I reconcile that with the fact that he has dementia? Can toddlers have dementia? Mentally he is a superposition of tot and extremely old.

    Nougat ,

    I was pretty chuffed about that $1000 ask, but it turns out that that's the maximum fine allowed for contempt of court in a criminal trial in New York.

    Beyond that, there's either exclusion from the courtroom (and no judge wants to exclude a defendant from the courtroom) or detention up to thirty days.

    jkrtn ,

    Let’s do the detention one, please.

    ganksy ,
    @ganksy@lemmy.world avatar

    Is it reasonable to think that if his lawyers get even one maga nut on the jury, they’d have to re-try the case?

    gAlienLifeform ,
    @gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world avatar

    I am pretty certain jury verdicts have to be unanimous or it’s a mistrial, so, yeah, that’s a reasonable thing to think

    PlantJam ,

    The fact that they are going through social media history makes this significantly less of a risk, but it’s still a risk.

    themeatbridge ,

    There are plenty of stupid people who are not active on social media.

    dogslayeggs ,

    Outside of Lemmy, I’m not on social media… and I like to think of myself as pretty stupid.

    InternetCitizen2 ,

    Same

    Quetzalcutlass ,

    On the plus side this is New York, the city that knows him best. And they fucking hate him.

    tiefling ,

    Florida can keep him

    thatgirlwasfire , (edited )

    The parts of my family that are Trump supporters are all from NYC. I imagine they never have actually met Trump though. I imagine actually meeting him would cure them.

    jballs ,
    @jballs@sh.itjust.works avatar

    It’s up to the government to decide whether or not they re-try a case if there is a hung jury. It’s my understanding that most of the time, they do not re-try the case because of the time and effort involved with no guarantee that the outcome would be any different. So usually a hung jury is a victory for the defense.

    I’m not a lawyer, that’s just my layman’s understanding from the legal stuff I’ve seen and read.

    Silentiea ,
    @Silentiea@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

    I expect in this case the prosecution would consider it worth the time and expense, but

    Theprogressivist , (edited )
    @Theprogressivist@lemmy.world avatar

    Donnie’s complaints

    • Complained about not having a jury
    • Complained about having a jury
    • Complained about jury selection being too boring
    • Complained about falling asleep and being called Sleepy Don.
    • Complained he can’t see Baron’s graduation
    • Complained at a Bodega about Bodegas being the epicenter of violence and crime
    • Complained about not having unlimited STRIKERS
    • Complained about gag order
    • Complained about gag order being enforced
    • Complained about Jimmy Kimmel hurting his feelings at the Oscar’s, which was 38 days ago.

    Wah wah wah. Fucking crybaby. How about not breaking the fucking law asshole?

    cm0002 ,

    Sounds like he’s a bit of a … Snowflake lmao

    InternetUser2012 ,

    One downvote lol. Someone is a butthurt snowflake.

    cm0002 ,

    Thought you were a right wing MAGA nut, but looking at your profile you don’t seem to be too fond of Drumpster either

    I think you might have misinterpreted my comment

    PM_Your_Nudes_Please ,

    I think you might have actually misinterpreted theirs; I think they were making fun of the person who downvoted, not claiming the downvote.

    TheRedSpade ,

    The way I interpreted it is that your comment had a downvote when InternetUser2012 commented, not that they were downvoting you. I could be wrong though.

    InternetUser2012 ,

    You are not wrong lol

    InternetUser2012 ,

    Nah, you got mine wrong lol. I was talking about whoever downvoted you. It wasn’t me.

    cm0002 ,

    Wait, you guys can see a vote breakdown? LMAO I thought it was just a total vote count like on reddit this whole time lol

    Dkarma ,

    Complained the looseys cost too much.

    FlyingSquid , (edited )
    @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

    Haha. He’s still complaining about Kimmel?

    That moron doesn’t even realize his complaints cause more people to tune into Kimmel to see Kimmel make fun of him every night.

    And I hope Kimmel brings this up tonight.

    dudinax ,

    If you can’t do the mild inconvenience, don’t do the crime.

    orbitz ,

    As per his own words, he’s a whiner cause he’ll do it till it wins. Unsure how well that works in criminal court though. I’m hoping we get to find out the court’s limits sooner than later

    ChowJeeBai ,

    He whines the likes the world has never seen. So much whining. I can’t stand it all this whining.

    Asafum ,

    There’s a bit of usefulness in whining. I “whine” at work all the time, but it’s about useful shit. Nothing seems to happen until I complain about something lol

    bradorsomething ,

    He’s just so tired now, why do they keep making him run for president?

    Corkyskog ,

    It’s his retirement plan

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