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DrChickenbeer , in fixed cyberghost's "meme"

My feed got a lot less irritating when I blocked posts from CyberGhost.

Vuraniute OP ,
@Vuraniute@thelemmy.club avatar

imagine lemmy if we could user-level defederate lemmygrad & hexbear

paradise

JokeDeity ,

It’s such a fucking pain in my ass to have to block every single community from Lemmygrad and Hexbear. I’m so tired of seeing their dumbass 7th grade love of fascists and racism.

Vuraniute OP ,
@Vuraniute@thelemmy.club avatar

alongside having to block all the users that intrude on other subs to post their tankie propaganda

BarrelAgedBoredom ,

If youre on Android, the connect app has a block instance feature

Orbituary ,
@Orbituary@lemmy.world avatar

It’s astounding that they are fascist lovers but parody the use of Leningrad in their name. Pick an ethos, guys.

uniqueid198x ,

Blocking chapo and news was really good for me.

ikiru ,

I’m guessing you’re an anarchist, which I appreciate and so I totally understand why you may not like these instances, but do you ever feel like some of the people criticizing Lemmygrad and Hexbear are Right-wingers themselves?

I fully support Leftist critiques but some of these claims are kind of wild. Someone claiming hexbear is racist? How would it be racist, from a Leftist perspective? It just seems to me like Right-wingers are attacking them with these ridiculous claims to get them to be defederated or at least to get people to stay away and not understand the humor. If someone critiqued them for defending the State when communism should include the dissolution of the State apparatus, the recuperation of initially revolutionary movements by global capitalism, etc. then I’d appreciate the Leftist critiques but it doesn’t seem to me to be the case. And it doesn’t seem to me like there is any monolithic position at hexbear either. I actually was further pleasantly surprised to see they had an anarchism community and also a Christianity community at hexbear, it doesn’t feel to me like they have a hard Stalinist party-line and don’t accept differences among the Left.

I do get the feeling they don’t like Right-wingers though.

cooljacob204 , (edited )

I'm just gonna talk about your first paragraph. No they are not right wingers lmao. I fucking hate that you can't be centrist or democratic socialist without some asshole (not you, you're just asking) saying you're a right winger.

I believe the west has better equality, stability, quality of life, rights, morals, so and and so forth.

And I think we need to greatly expand our social programs.

However if I defend the west then suddenly I'm a right winger? Fuck off with that classification shit. I just don't subscribe to Russia and China somehow being better then the US or the west in any sort of way.

This is why these social movements never get any movement in the US. They're too busy self hating and worshipping facists in the East.

ikiru ,

Thanks for your response and I appreciate the thought you put into it. I agree we need to greatly and desperately expand social programs. I also don’t think Russia or China are perfect, much less socialist, but I wouldn’t say the West—including the US—is categorically and unquestionably better in every sort of way. That being said, the Left does need to be broader in the West and everywhere else, which is why I think I’d rather hold solidarity with Leftists in these instances who I may not fully agree with rather than attacking them alongside Right-wingers and fascists.

And, sorry, but, no offense, a centrist is a Right-winger to me and it proves my point.

cooljacob204 , (edited )

My point is I'm only a right winger in a small niche bubble which is completely not the reality of things.

To most of the world I'm a lefty and to actual right wingers they would probably call me a communist (and sure incorrectly but not my point).

Right winger means maga idiot to most of the ppl in the US not democrat who wants to greatly expand our social programs and nets.

ikiru ,

Fair enough. I do think there is a popular misunderstanding among the general public about political theory as well as political labels so maybe you shouldn’t take that as justification for anything, but I can admit there is gatekeeping and puritanism that happens among the Left in terms of letting people into particular parties/collectives but also in terms of labels in general.

In my opinion, the baseline is that any actual Leftist wants the abolition of Capitalism. If you don’t support the abolition of private property as capital, then you are not a Leftist.

Centrists and Democratic Socialists have not been great examples of Leftists to me so I assume anyone who unironically identifies as such is more aligned with the center-Right (i.e., supports the existence of Capitalism but with reforms).

socsa ,

What you are describing is called “campism” in socialist communities which aren’t run by edgy teenagers and trolls.

uniqueid198x , (edited )

Oh, no, most of the critique, especially of lemmygrad, is from a right wing stance (right wing from an anarchist prospective). There are are plenty of good conversations to be had about the role of activism and the state in achieving liberation. But the standard critique is a knee jerk reaction.

I blocked those two hexbear comnunities because they are the most likely to insert hexbear’s wild and unpleasant meme culture into my timeline. They aren’t terribly interested in any discussion that doesn’t start and end with their viewpoint, cause its meme culture.

I have an 60% confidence I will get sea-lioned for this comment. Also a 20% chance I will get pig poop balls, although highlighting it may increase those odds

edit: after 5 hours I did not get sea-lioned. I admit I was overly critical in that estimate.

ikiru ,

Yeah, I’m seeing it’s more Right-wingers than anarchist comrades so I do get skeptical.

But I understand about the meme culture. It can be heavy-handed but I actually like it. I think it’s funny and it is a nice break from just liberal or apolitical meme humor. I’ve seen some good discussions there though but honestly not too many anarchist discussions, although I get the feeling it wouldn’t be totally rejected. I wish there was more solidarity and love between us.

https___www.hexbear.net_pictrs_image_68b4e09d-1bd1-4616-a9fc-5dffde94e49a

Thanks for the response!

uniqueid198x ,

Yeah, I subscribe to and participate in soma hexbear communities. I don’t throw it all out. And of course, the majority of critique of liberation will come from the right wing. There are some anarchist comnunities on lemmy, I hope to see you there some time!

ikiru ,

That’s good to hear, too! I came to Lemmy, besides reddit’s issue with third-party apps, because I wanted to be around other Leftists. I don’t care too much about the specifics of everyone’s politics, just want to have a good time.

I definitely lurk (and have probably commented) on some anarchist communities too! Do you have any you recommend? There are so many communities, I’m still getting around to subscribing to them. And I have a backup account on your instance too. Haha

uniqueid198x ,

The slrpnk community is quite good, lots of resources and good exchange of ideas.

uniqueid198x ,

Went and fished out the link for you, this is to give a second notif so I don’t secretly edit It in: !anarchism

ikiru ,

Oh, thank you! I just joined that too. I checked the other recommended communities there and was already a member of those but happy to join this one that I missed.

uniqueid198x ,

welcome! I look forward to learning and sharing in solidarity with you!

kmkz_ninja ,

Vhat is it that you feel unappealing about lemmygrad that does not agree with my opinions??

Edit: Sorry bots work on a half-day timeline.

uniqueid198x ,

Nothing, I have no strong opinion of lemmygrad.

socsa ,

Hexbear unironically defends Russia, which is an extremely racist and homophobic place. Likewise, China is also an extremely racist place, which is increasingly opposed to LGBT advocacy as “western degeneracy.” And of course, they fall over themselves to defend tyranny, as long as it pays lip service to socialist ideals, while denigrating social democrats as insincere “shit libs.” Then they post their little arms crossed emoji thinking they’ve made some point.

By and large these people are children who legitimately have an extremely narrow view of the world they seek to critique. They see Lenin write that “imperialism is something everyone other than Russia does” and that’s about as far as they look into the underlying philosophy of imperialism.

ikiru ,

Well, I’m not going to comment on Russia’s imperialism being supported on Hexbear because I haven’t quite seen that as much as I’ve seen critique of Ukraine’s issue with Nazism and the West’s hypocritical denialism about that even existing as an issue in Ukraine—when during Euromaidan it was acknowledged. I don’t support Putin or the invasion, because while there are Nazis in Ukraine who should be dealt with the same could be said about Russia or the US itself, but I also don’t think the US is being smart by arming fascist Right-wingers. The US has done this before and it never works out well.

I don’t quite see the racism argument though. Hexbear is racist because some people support Russia? I mean, yeah, Russia can definitely be racist and maybe some people at Hexbear probably support Russia in an uncritical way. But lacking any racist memes or racist discussions happening, of which I’ve seen none, I don’t think that equates to the users or the instance being racist. The US and Europe are extremely racist societies, I would argue way more racist than Russia, but I don’t see people arguing that instances with liberals who support the US are racist instances and should be defederated.

kmkz_ninja ,

It seems like you just kinda agree with hexbear.

ikiru ,

Agree with Hexbear about what, exactly?

I feel like this is such a reddit moment ascribing one, monolithic point of view to a mass of people. Am I Leftist? Yes. If that means I agree with Hexbear, then, yeah, I totally do. But I don’t necessarily think I agree wholesale with an instance, not that there is a position that is universal there anyway—other than being a Leftist.

kmkz_ninja ,

Hexbear is leftist in the way that coontown was right-wing. They’re pro-Russia and for the invasion of Ukraine, something that most people on the rational left disagree with.

I’m fine with lumping the members of that domain together because they choose to flock together.

ikiru ,

I don’t fully understand the analogy because I’ve never heard of that other place before, for which I am thankful because something tells me it’s best not to know it.

kmkz_ninja ,

It’s a (now removed afik) racist subreddit for exactly what you would assume. I make the connection in that it’s only right wing insofar as you would assume racism = right wing. The point being that Hexbear is only leftist insofar as you would assume communist ideology is inherently radically leftwing (regardless of its potentially authoritarian implementation). Hexbear is extreme and should not necessarily be lumped into the grand ideology of rational leftists.

(This is my dumbshit opinion)

Gormadt ,
@Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

One of the many things I love about Blahaj is that we’re no longer federated with Hexbear, there was a bit (frankly a shit ton)of drama getting there but those days when we were federated I blocked more Hexbear users than users from any other instance.

Join us on Blahaj, we’re explicitly queer friendly and we don’t have to deal with Hexbear anymore.

Of course once we can migrate accounts that will likely be a far easier sell.

rjs001 ,
@rjs001@lemmygrad.ml avatar

Blahaj is run by far-right nut jobs and used by them as well. They hate anyone left of Regan

rjs001 ,
@rjs001@lemmygrad.ml avatar

Go back to your Fox News

JokeDeity , (edited )

This is what I mean, nothing you guys say ever makes even the remotest of sense. I can’t fucking stand that channel and everyone on your instance talks like their typical fans. MAKE IT MAKE SENSE.

rjs001 ,
@rjs001@lemmygrad.ml avatar

Why are you promoting their anti socialist talk points then? You have clearly fallen for the Fox News bullshit

TWeaK ,

It’s coming, likely in the next Lemmy update.

WtfEvenIsExistence ,

What is Lemmygrad and Hexbear? Is that something I’m too much of a [lemmy.ca] user to understand?

(/jk yes I know what they are, this is my attempt at a “Am I too [Insert Nationality] to understand?” joke. Come joins us btw, lemmy.ca, sopuli.xyz are both good options.)

MrGerrit ,

On sync for Lemmy you can block instances by putting it in it’s filter list.

Akasazh ,
@Akasazh@feddit.nl avatar

In Connect it gives you the option of banning the instance. It will block out comments with a message that is was filtered. You get the option of viewing the content anyway, If you feel like it.

DLSchichtl ,

It’s funny, because I am using Connect, and it filtered your comment because you are from a foreign language instance that I filtered out. It’s not perfect, but it’s better than nothing.

Akasazh ,
@Akasazh@feddit.nl avatar

I get you, I mean I can read some of the European languages that are big on lemmy, but I’d be quite annoying if I didn’t. But connect’s filter is quite handy with that, if you expect the comment to be in English, you can just read it.

Love that featur, hope the browser based version will implement the same

Rhabuko ,
@Rhabuko@feddit.de avatar

Or simply choose a instance that defederates fascists and authoritarian loving dipsshits. Never had a problem here with far right or tankie content.

rumckle ,

The connect app allows you to block instances. Not the same as defeding obviously, but it helps.

Infectoid ,

What’d I miss?

DrChickenbeer ,

To summarize: More tankie bullshit

rjs001 ,
@rjs001@lemmygrad.ml avatar

Go back to your Fox News

BlinkerFluid , in Playing the same game
@BlinkerFluid@lemmy.one avatar

“hey, train this guy”

Me, who’s been managing this dept with zero experience for the last ten years by the skin of my teeth.

“Read this book and get to work.”

ivanafterall ,
@ivanafterall@kbin.social avatar

My experience is more like, "It's all relatively self-explanatory. You'll catch up. Also, we forgot to ask, how's your Mandarin?"

MonkderZweite ,

And of course learning by doing.

aubertlone ,

Yeah I’m feeling this pretty hard.

Started a new position last Monday. I’m very happy with the role actually, but it seems so hard to find actual training. I really shouldn’t complain, I’m not assigned much work currently or in the near future.

Just would be nice to have a better idea of the day-to-day, however.

Lev_Astov ,
@Lev_Astov@lemmy.world avatar

Sounds to me like you have ten years of experience!

Catoblepas , in Reject modernity. Embrace tradition.

Shit like this is why people doing home gardening, especially in areas that have been inhabited for hundreds of years, without testing the soil first give me heart palpitations. What are you eating?? I don’t know, and neither do you!

June ,

My neighborhood soil is laced with arsenic and lead from an old foundry that used to be nearby.

A bunch of my neighbors grow and eat food in that soil knowing it. It boggles my mind.

Ruthalas ,

While I know it’s not convenient, have you considered… telling them?

June ,

Yea, and the response has been ‘I’ve been eating food I’ve grown here for 20 years and I’m totally fine!’

zeroAhead ,

Just like the people that love to tell their grandparents lived a long life smoking tobacco everyday.

Beaphe ,

It wasn’t the smoking that didnt kill em. It was the minding their own fucking business.

Aux ,

People doing home gardening usually replace the soil.

Catoblepas ,

Almost everyone I know of that gardens at home just tills the soil they have available. Gardening soil isn’t cheap and they view it as an unnecessary expense. It’s especially hard to convince people in rural areas that just using the dirt out back can be harmful.

Aux ,

When I lived in a private house with a garden, we would buy new soil EVERY YEAR. Because fuck all grows otherwise.

Catoblepas ,

I grew up in the country and my grandparents never bought any soil, but God knows what they added to it. Arsenic used to be common in pesticides, for example.

Aux ,

Well, I guess some people prefer to buy arsenic instead of soil…

averagedrunk ,

At least there’s no aftertaste.

casey ,

I know you can send soil to be tested by your local university extension, but how do you test for conaminents like used hydrocarbons, arsenic, lead, glyphosate-based herbicides, etc?

I am about to embark on a hobby of composting and would like to know.

Catoblepas ,

If your local university doesn’t test for the specific contaminants you’re concerned about you can send samples to a private lab instead, sometimes they offer more testing options. I don’t know the specifics of how each one is tested for, but on your end they usually just require you to take (and possibly dry) soil samples before sending them in.

If you don’t have a good idea of the history of the site, it would be good to try and figure it out through your local historical society if you have one, or land records from your local records office. Whoever is testing the soil will have a better idea of what to test for if they know it used to be a mining town, or it’s 50 feet from a house old enough to have used lead paint, if it was farm land, etc.

tillary , in Hasn't happened yet

Boomers got more conservative as they grew older because they’ve been eating shovels of propaganda since reagan and never learned how to fact check like younger generations

FordBeeblebrox ,

Don’t forget the leaded gas fumes and rampant racism!

WaxedWookie ,

Don’t belive everything you read online, kids!

Proceeds to freebase Facebook conspiracism like it’s the 70’s again

Odo , in Firefox gang raise

Wow. I’m surprised at the dislike for the old detailed icon. Maybe it’s being old enough to remember black and white icons, but I miss the increasing amount of colors that icons had for a while there. I hate the trend toward monocolor silhouettes.

Asymptote ,

BACK IN MY DAY WE DIDN’T HAVE GUIS OR COMPUTERIZED RODENTS

Honytawk ,

It is more the dislike of people hating on the new icon, like OP.

Either icon is fine, you may dislike one of the icons but at the end of the day it is just an icon.

You click it, it opens the software, and you move on.

atyaz , in Lemmy might, MIGHT have a small bias towards the left

I agree! Let me know when you find an uncorrupt government or uncorrupt corporation.

spectre ,

Thomas Sankara is a leader that many on the left look up to for being non-corrupt. There very wellay be something I’m not aware of, though.

I don’t think Lenin was ever considered “corrupt”, even if one doesn’t agree with his political decisions.

greywolf0x1 ,

His death is is one of the greatest tragedies to have happened to Africa.

cricbuzz ,
IndiBrony , in understanding games is a form of systemic analysis
@IndiBrony@lemmy.world avatar

I haven’t been here long but I imagine c/outside exists?

akariii ,

if it doesn’t, make it

culprit OP ,
@culprit@lemmy.ml avatar

c/outside
Outdoors / Nature / Green Things

huh?

LongbottomLeaf ,

I think they meant the sub where life is treated like a game, a very poorly designed game (almost as if there was no Designer, just people).

Things like, “I’m level 18, should I spec my character into the biochem, robotics, or software guild?”

Or “What’s the cheat code for an affordable surgery?”

You get the idea. Life’s a game. And it sucks. Stupid devs.

paraphrand ,

I wish they would properly announce the UFO DLC already. All we have is rumors and hearsay.

Pseu ,
@Pseu@kbin.social avatar

I'm personally of the opinion that the hints aren't for the UFO expansion, but it's probably teasers for the World War 3 event, combined with camera artefacts and general player secrecy.

It's sad too. Everyone wants some good new DLC. All this PvP shit is getting out of hand. :(

IndiBrony ,
@IndiBrony@lemmy.world avatar

Affordable surgery is exclusive to the European servers, it seems.

wanderingmagus ,

!outside exists :) Not too active, but we can change that.

ICastFist ,
@ICastFist@programming.dev avatar

They probably spend too much time outside to bother with it ;)

wanderingmagus ,

True lol. Probably distracted with all the grindy sidequests.

WhereGrapesMayRule , in I love Star Wars! It's my favorite anime

Those characters aren’t from Star Wars. They are from Stargate. Easy to see how you might confuse them.

NegativeLookBehind , in Windows vs Linux
@NegativeLookBehind@kbin.social avatar

Windows: “I’m trying really hard to be your friend, please love me”

Linux: “Lol you wanna fuck around and find out? Go ahead dude IDGAF”

sebinspace ,

And in the process, I learned something about computers :D

Weird how that works.

MNByChoice ,

FYI, Windows 3.11 let one fuck around in this way.

Brunbrun6766 , in Saw this on feddit.de and want to share the idea.
@Brunbrun6766@lemmy.world avatar

No.

Chariotwheel ,

Yeah, this is silly 9gag stuff. Not like people on here don't take memes from other parts of the internet too. In the end, these things are supposed for sharing.

Kowowow , in I miss forums

I used to wonder why my mom mistrusted online banking so much but looking back at the free programs I downloaded plus limewire it makes sense

ArbitraryValue , in Woke Adapter

This reminds me of the time I was at work doing searches for

female female connection

female female coupling

female to male adapter

I wonder what IT thought. It was for serial ports, I swear!

(IT probably didn’t care much about this compared to the time that another employee was soliciting prostitutes using his work email.)

We usually think of people in the past as prudes but they were actually saying stuff like “These connectors look like they’re having sex, let’s officially name them based on that.”

rockerface ,

IT were probably familiar with the terms, I would guess

ArbitraryValue , (edited )

Given that our IT completely failed to secure our networked storage, I wouldn’t be so sure. (Our CEO was a stereotypically loud Italian guy, and he was the calmest I had ever seen him when I showed him that I could access all his files. I wish I could have been there when he went to have a polite chat with IT about that…)

Another time, IT put an electronic lock on the door to the server room. One day that lock (and all the other electronic locks in the building) wouldn’t open. It turned out that the computer controlling the locks had frozen up, but it was in the server room so they couldn’t get in to reset it. They ended up having to take the door off of its hinges.

Or when I got laid off (the start-up’s money ran out so half of the employees were, including the former CEO) and someone told my very embarrassed boss to follow me around while I went to get my stuff. You gave me keys to the building and root access to the R&D machines. You were shipping with the firmware image I made. But now you were worried that I was the vengeful sort?

raltoid ,

(IT probably didn’t care much about this compared to the time that another employee was soliciting prostitutes using his work email.)

Correct.

Unless you actually click on the shady porn links we don’t care.

exu ,

Where I work we don’t even look at what’s being blocked. Only when someone requests a website to be opened it gets checked out.

WhiskyTangoFoxtrot ,

If your search engine used HTTPS (which nearly all websites do now, but it’s possible that you made these searches before that was common) then IT would have no way of knowing what searches you were making.

tr11 ,
@tr11@lemmy.world avatar

They could have a browser extension to track their searches.

18107 , in Sir I am broke

I’d recommend an electric car for avoiding oil changes, but I think we still have a few more years until cheap second hand electric cars become available.

mp3 ,
@mp3@lemmy.ca avatar

Which will also need a costly battery replacement not long after buying it 😬

18107 , (edited )

I’ve had an electric car since 2011. The battery looks like it will last another 10 years.

Early Nissan Leaf batteries degraded relatively quickly (8-10 years) due to poor battery chemistry and no thermal management. Both of these issues have been fixed in all new electric cars (except the new Nissan Leaf which still doesn’t have battery cooling).

Even the old degraded batteries are valuable as static energy storage, and several people are using them as house batteries.

Most of the cost of a battery replacement is the manufacturer markup. There is at least one company making replacement Nissan Leaf batteries for significantly less than Nissan, and they include the latest chemistry and liquid cooling (unlike Nissan who just give you a second hand battery).

Most electric cars today have a 10 year warranty on the battery. Manufacturers wouldn’t be offering that if there was a reasonable chance you would need to replace the battery in that time.

zurohki ,

Even if today’s EVs degraded like the first Leaf, when you start off with 250 miles of range you could lose a third of it and still have a very usable vehicle.

Nunya ,

Would you mind sharing which EV you have that has a battery that will last 22 years with normal use?

18107 ,

I have a 2011 Nissan Leaf AZE0 24kWh with about 40% battery degradation. It can drive about 80km (50mi), which is perfectly adequate for a second car. It is rarely driven more than 20km in a day.

My other car is a 2018 Nissan Leaf ZE1 E+ G 62kWh with about 4% battery degradation.

The fastest battery degradation happens when the battery is new, and the degradation slows down gradually over time. I expect the 2011 Leaf to still have at least 50km range in 2041, and the 2018 Leaf to still have at least 200km (130mi) range in 2038. Both of these will still suit my needs.

dragoness ,

No, it will not. Stop spewing nonsense.

AssholeDestroyer ,

My 02 VW diesel goes 10,000+mi between oil changes. 50mpg fuel economy. The car cost $6000

Frub ,

Answer: hydrogen

18107 ,

Hydrogen is only 30% efficient compared to 90-95% for batteries. Most hydrogen is currently made from fossil fuels, and contains less energy than the fossil fuels used to make it.

zoe ,

but an electric car is heavier than a hydrogen car, so the electric platform is less efficient. imagine carrying an extra ton of a batterypack wherever u go. hydrogen could be made from renewable energy, and doesn’t require batteries to be stored. battery metals are finite. u can’t scale that up. 5kg of H2 translates to 400km mileage.

18107 ,

Most large combustion SUVs are heavier than most electric cars.

Sodium ion batteries are being produced with no rare metals in them, and will be in production cars within a year. Hydrogen is difficult to store due to is low volumetric density, it’s molecular size, and corrosive nature.

Hydrogen (fuel cell) cars all have a battery because a hydrogen fuel cell is slow to change it’s energy output, so can’t change its output fast enough to directly power the car.

Battery electric cars are about 90% efficient from charging from the grid to moving. Hydrogen cars are about 30% efficient from grid to moving when made from renewable energy. These efficiency numbers include the weight and rolling resistance of the car. The theoretical maximum efficiency of hydrogen storage allowed by the limits of physics is about 50%.

The volumetric density of hydrogen is so low that you would need 20 tanker trucks to transport the same amount of energy that 1 tanker truck of gasoline can carry. This is at maximum pressure or liquified.

Hydrogen only makes sense when the weight of the energy storage medium is critical. As demonstrated by American cars, it isn’t.

Frub ,

I’d love to see the technology develop more but it’s definitely not viable today. It’s like when EVs started out.

Contend6248 ,

Yes, but the difference is that it doesn’t move at all, which major companies are really pushing that technology, there was a hype, but now it just sits

Frub ,

Toyota and some truck companies are the major ones pushing this

GissaMittJobb ,

Actual answer: Public transportation and bicycles

scratchee ,

Actual actual answer: WFH

empireOfLove ,

Seriously, unless you’re working a labor job in manufacturing there’s little reason to do 90% of all white collar jobs in person. It’s all staring at a damn computer screen anyway so who cares where you do it from?

GissaMittJobb ,

A job is not the only place any given person would have the need to transport themselves to.

argv_minus_one ,

…are far too slow to be a practical substitute for a car.

GissaMittJobb ,

This is highly dependent on what kind of built environment you happen to live in. In sanely built places, it’s very much not true.

argv_minus_one ,

You mean densely-packed cities? I would not call that sane. I would call that hellish. You have no privacy, no yard for your kids and pets to play in, almost no living space, a building manager threatening you with homelessness and catastrophic debt unless you bow to his every whim, and you pay a king’s ransom for the dubious privilege of living like that. No thank you.

GissaMittJobb ,

A lot of untruths to unpack here.

You mean densely-packed cities? I would not call that sane. I would call that hellish.

You have no privacy,

There are forms of non-SFH density that offer plenty of privacy.

no yard for your kids and pets to play in,

The existence of rowhouses makes this false. It’s completely possible to have a yard while not living in densities that support public transportation and cycling.

Higher densities also usually come with common amenities like parks, where your children can play, and also walk to/cycle to without risking their lives. Their friends can also walk/cycle there.

almost no living space,

Baseless falsehood.

a building manager threatening you with homelessness

Higher densities does not equal living in a rental apartment, false again

and catastrophic debt unless you bow to his every whim,

As opposed to living in a house which you don’t have to incur any debt whatsoever to obtain? Hell of a statement.

and you pay a king’s ransom for the dubious privilege of living like that.

Cities are usually more expensive on account of the fact that people actually want to live there, because people want to be close to the things that they want to do, and not have to spend their lives sitting in traffic behind the wheel all their lives. Lots of places have also tax incentivized living in suburban densities to the detriment of those living in higher densities, so it’s not like the higher cost is a law of nature.

No thank you.

Generally poor take.

EremesZorn ,

I’m not the guy you’re replying to, but I lived in a city for four years. I found it miserable, and it’s not for everyone. In fact I’d argue that you seemingly advocating for us to live in one big sprawl is the dystopian poor take here.

argv_minus_one ,

There are forms of non-SFH density that offer plenty of privacy.

Namely?

The existence of rowhouses makes this false. It’s completely possible to have a yard while not living in densities that support public transportation and cycling.

Rowhouses are just single-family housing subdivisions without gaps between the buildings. They are not high-density housing and they are not any more supportive of public transportation and cycling.

Furthermore, they combine the worst of both worlds: they’re little denser and therefore little better for the environment than single-family housing, but they do have a building manager whose whims you have to obey.

Higher densities also usually come with common amenities like parks, where your children can play, and also walk to/cycle to

My cats aren’t going to happily wander around in a park full of humans. They’re going to run and hide in terror. Parks are not a substitute for a yard.

almost no living space,

Baseless falsehood.

My parents’ single-family house has about three times the square footage of my apartment. That’s a fact, not a falsehood.

Higher densities does not equal living in a rental apartment

Irrelevant. Even if you “own” a part of a building, someone is in charge of the building as a whole—the building manager—and everyone living in that building must obey the building manager’s whims, no matter how cruel, or face fines and/or confiscation of “their” home.

Ownership of parts of buildings is a legal fiction ripe for abuse. Only entire buildings, and the plots of land on which they stand, can be truly owned.

As opposed to living in a house which you don’t have to incur any debt whatsoever to obtain?

“Buying” a condo incurs debt in exactly the same way as buying a house, so I’m not sure what point you’re trying to make here.

Cities are usually more expensive on account of the fact that people actually want to live there

Well, I certainly can’t imagine why.

people want to be close to the things that they want to do, and not have to spend their lives sitting in traffic behind the wheel all their lives.

A minor inconvenience, compared to everything that’s wrong with city life.

Generally poor take.

The feeling is mutual.

natebluehooves ,

In the US? Yep! We really need working public transit that isn’t seen as a poor person’s “punishment”.

argv_minus_one ,

Public transit only works in densely-packed cities. I do not want to live in a densely-packed city. In suburbs, where life is relatively pleasant, public transit is agonizingly slow compared to cars.

pimeys ,

It works pretty well here in Berlin. The trains go far to the suburbs and beyond, are fast and comfortable. You pay 49 euros a month and can travel anywhere in the country with the ticket. Most of them go even at night.

argv_minus_one ,

Well, why don’t you compare? Open up Google Maps. Choose two points in the suburbs, and see how long it takes to travel between them by car versus by public transit.

I did the same, between my apartment complex and a nearby business, and the estimates are 12 minutes by car and 47 minutes by bus. Main problem: there’s a transfer in the middle of this route where I’d have to wait 11 minutes for the next bus to arrive.

I tried again with a different business, and got a direct bus route with no transfers and exactly the same route I’d take in a car. This is the best-case scenario for public transit, but going by car is still significantly faster: 10 minutes by car, or 17 minutes by bus.

pimeys ,

Usually either one bus or one train. 10 minutes longer, sometimes 15. And so much cheaper and better for the environment.

railsdev ,

Ha! I’d kill for 10 minutes. When I first moved to SoCal I didn’t have a car and had two take two buses daily to work with an hour between.

One time the second bus didn’t show (not the first time), I couldn’t find a ride so I walked the 10 miles and got to work sooner than if I’d taken the bus.

argv_minus_one ,

Well, that problem can be solved with more public transit, at least. More buses means less time waiting for a bus to show up.

But, even where I live, where there are plenty of buses to go around, they’re still slower than cars.

Frub ,

Yeah

Asafum ,

Seriously… Everyone is missing all the side b.s that comes with cars especially new cars…

My car was “cheap” for a new car and it still came with a lane change radar thing… Guess who has a $1200 windshield replacement now because some schmuck kicked up a rock with their car? $300 was expensive for a windshield but now I need a freaking sensor alignment too?

railsdev ,

Hate to bring this up after the fact: windshield insurance is usually pretty cheap. I don’t have brand new cars though so I could be off base.

EremesZorn ,

Knew it would be a matter of time before the fuck_cars crowd popped in. Not everywhere is a city, and I work potentially all over the state. I also have equipment and gear I have to bring to the job. I actually need a vehicle.

GissaMittJobb ,

Good for you, man. How would you like for most of the people, who don’t actually have exceptional use-cases, to not be on the road, in your way, in the form of traffic?

EremesZorn ,

That’s entirely not feasible for anyone living a typical life with errands to run and places to go, and you know it.

explodicle ,

You two aren’t strongly disagreeing; he wants to make it more feasible outside of cities. I’ve met a handful of people who do indeed manage to bike around suburban towns.

GissaMittJobb ,

I literally live a typical life with errands to run and places to go, entirely without a car.

EremesZorn ,

Because the amenities you require are geographically close enough to not necessitate a car. I don’t know what the population density is where you live, but if it’s a city, there’s obviously going to be public transit to make that happen at least somewhat efficiently.
And yeah, the cities that don’t have effective public transportation, or just have unattractive public transportation (i.e. “its too crowded,” “I don’t want to be around this many people,” etc.) are the places where you’ll find more traffic on the road. In a rural setting though, it comes down to a low population density and much broader geographical ranges. I’d imagine that makes public transportation really inefficient, and in the eyes of local government, fiscally untenable.

zurohki ,

Twice as expensive to fill as a gas car and more expensive than a battery EV to buy, all while still producing tons of CO2 by steam reforming methane to make the hydrogen? Wow, sign me up!

Hydrogen is the answer, but the question is “How can fossil fuel companies keep making money while pretending to be green?”

Frub ,

The technology is extremely underdeveloped. That’s why it’s so expensive and impractical right now. Batteries aren’t ecological saints either.

BastingChemina ,

Hydrogen is a pain to store and work with. Even on rocket engine that is worth millions it’s almost impossible to avoid leaks.

On the other hand gas can be carried in a plastic bottle and electricity is already available everywhere.

I don’t see any future where hydrogen car become mainstream.

zurohki ,

Hydrogen is such a pain to deal with, the filling stations cost something like a million dollars each.

You can’t just use normal materials to contain high pressure hydrogen - the molecules are so small that it seeps through steel and turns it brittle.

beefcat ,
@beefcat@beehaw.org avatar

Hydrogen trades volumetric energy density for gravimetric energy density. It is too difficult to build a car that can safely hold a reasonable amount of hydrogen without making it bigger or sacrificing cargo space, and building a distribution network on the same scale as gasoline is a problem we still have no idea how to solve.

I think hydrogen will be much more viable in shipping, where these problems are much less pronounced. Big trucks and container ships are less concerned with volume (weight is more important). And they move along common and predictable routes meaning you don’t need quite so many hydrogen gas stations. You distribution just needs to cover truck stops and ports.

Frub ,

The same infrastructure argument could go for electric though. It’s difficult to build infrastructure for these vehicles yes I agree but why would electric be any easier?

Also don’t quote me on this but i think there are ways to collect hydrogen at a home, which would reduce the need for these stations, at least in the city

beefcat ,
@beefcat@beehaw.org avatar

It’s easier to build charging stations when we already have a massive grid for distributing electricity. We have no such infrastructure in place for distributing hydrogen. Producing hydrogen cleanly and efficiently is still a hard problem we haven’t really solved.

zurohki ,

DC fast chargers cost something like $70k each. Hydrogen filling stations cost around a million each.

Also, with battery EVs home charging does most of the heavy lifting, you only use fast chargers for long trips. So just a handful of fast chargers on the main roads between cities makes battery EVs viable for a lot of people.

It’s not enough to collect hydrogen, a filling station also needs to compress it to 10,000 PSI to actually get it into a vehicle’s tank. So there’s no home filling for fuel cell EVs, you need a similar footprint to gas stations. Nobody’s interested in spending hundreds of billions of dollars building all those filling stations.

Frub ,

The difference with hydrogen stations is that the vehicle turnover would be incredibly higher despite the larger cost, similar to a regular gas station

zurohki ,

It actually isn’t. Hydrogen filling stations can only fill a couple of cars in a row before they need time to pump hydrogen from the storage tank to the buffer tank and compress and cool it to -40 degrees. So the number of cars they can handle in a day is not massively higher than a DC fast charger.

If it doesn’t have time to prepare between vehicles, it starts taking 20 minutes to fill each vehicle.

Frub ,

Also cars like the Toyota Mirai have a range of 400 miles, which is not bad at all considering that the median range for a car in the US is 403 miles.

Frederic ,

No, a electric car is twice the price of an ICE car. It’s not an oil change per year that will break the deal.

Also don’t believe the 3000 miles oil change, it’s a scam. I change my oil every 8000 miles, there’s zero problem with that, especially if you put synthetic, but dino works the same.

empireOfLove ,

Yeah most* engines can fairly easily do 7500mi changes on good synthetic. Even my 30 year old Honda expects 7500mi changes from the factory.

*I say “most” because a lot of modern direct injected turbocharged engines (designed for efficiency) have issues with fuel washdown due to DI cold starts and high turbo bearing heat cooking the oil to death. Those actually do need 5000mi oil changes typically, especially since 0w20 and 0w16 has real low film strength to start with.

To be sure of any OCI do an oil analysis from a lab like Blackstone at the end of your extended interval to make sure it’s still in acceptable shape.

BigNote ,

Yeah I’ll totally get on that.

traveler ,

If you’re purchasing new, getting a Tesla Model 3 is usually cheaper now than other mid end ICE vehicles.

dingus ,
@dingus@lemmy.ml avatar

The type of person this meme if referring to clearly doesn’t have the money to buy a new car.

Also fuck Tesla and its shitty owner.

traveler ,

Man grab your toxiness and gtfo

DragonTypeWyvern ,

No u.

You have a day old account btw.

traveler ,

so…?

Go back to Reddit with that BS.

Also going to count my “karma”?

DragonTypeWyvern , (edited )

It makes you a toxic hypocrite who looks like you’re either ban evading or sock puppeting on your new account as you screech at people to “go back where they came from,” dumbass.

traveler ,

Or just switched instance, but who knows. And thank you, I’m indeed a dumbass for even bother to respond to the likes of you.

DragonTypeWyvern ,

You can stop proving me right any time, fam.

cobra89 ,

You’re defending Elon and yet saying “go back to reddit”? L o fucking l

traveler ,

Where am I defending Elon?

Tesla is a public company, he’s a majority shareholder, just that.

Perfide ,

This is only true if you’re purchasing used. Anyone in the market for a NEW car absolutely can and should be considering an EV.

Also, you would be fucking shocked how expensive an oil change can be on some cars, even when doing it yourself.

SkepticElliptic ,

Depends on if you shop around for oil. I can usually get mobile one high mileage synthetic for about $5/qt at Walmart and buy filters at napa when they have a deal on buying multiple qty.

So $40ish for full synthetic high mileage oil change.

STUPIDVIPGUY ,

true 6-8000 is completely fine

(disclaimer i have no idea what imtalking abouy

BigNote ,

You can find what the manufacturer recommends for your make and model in your owners manual or you can look it up online. It’s never 3k miles and is almost always something like 6-8k miles, with increased frequency as the vehicle ages. Older vehicles frequently burn more oil so you might want to check your levels more often if you use one as a daily driver.

criticon ,

I’d recommend not being poor

Contend6248 ,

Then the oil change wouldn’t have been a problem in the first place

walter_wiggles , in Whatchu got
funnystuff97 , in The greatest country in the world

ISO 8601 or nothing. Descending order of granularity, keep everything sorted as it should be!

glad_cat ,

RFC 3339, because ISO is not free.

Potatos_are_not_friends ,

Tell me more? I can look it up but I’m curious if anybody ever got problems from using a standard like that

kautau ,

ISO charges for their standards

www.iso.org/store.html

Waker ,

My personal preference is DD-MM-AAAA, but as someone that works with lots of data from different formats and timezones… I have to agree with you…

YYYYMMDD and UTC should be the global default.

feedum_sneedson ,

annum annum annum annum

original_ish_name ,

I’ve said it once and I will say it again:

mkdir -p 2023/{January,February,March,April,May,June,July,August,Septembet,October,November,December}

Warning: not POSIX

darcy ,
@darcy@sh.itjust.works avatar

ew ew ew no please no :'(

DarkDarkHouse ,
@DarkDarkHouse@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Oh my god, why would they do this

original_ish_name ,

Why no? It will make your life way easier

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