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Sabre363 , to memes in Straps killed my grip

Fun Fact: If you use a hammer, the pickles will just fall right out

Eczpurt ,

My favorite part is the pickled glass shards

Whitebrow ,

The crunch really leaves an impression for a long time too

dubyakay ,

Don’t forget the fun times on the loo sometimes later. Fermented stuff really is good for your guts after all!

tdawg ,

Reading this made me flinch

idunnololz ,
@idunnololz@lemmy.world avatar

It fulfills your daily recommended intake of glass

Ephera ,

Exceeds it, even. That’s how you know it’s good.

nilloc ,

Until you pee out all the excess.

kosanovskiy ,

Screw the microplastics, I’m all about that micro glass. Get those two to fight each other.

_lilith , to lemmyshitpost in This line is chilling
@_lilith@lemmy.world avatar

I still kinda don’t buy that there is a hacksaw blade capable of cutting through bone but not metal. Cool scene tho

jaschen ,

I remembered this scene and saw the saw and immediately said that that specific saw is made to cut metal.

Kolanaki ,
@Kolanaki@yiffit.net avatar

Could a hacksaw cut through carbide steel or some other super strong alloy? Maybe the chain was made of some such material and it’s not that the saw sucked but that the chain was special.

Like, I have tools made to cut metal, but they don’t work on every metal.

ThatWeirdGuy1001 , (edited )
@ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world avatar

I would accept that as an excuse if they would’ve mentioned it at some point.

moistclump ,

I bought one of these saws. The guy at the store said “that’s a metal saw”. I said “yeh duh what else would saws be made out of.” I took it home and struggled immensely with sawing the wood trim I was using it on. It took me a solid SIX MONTHS to click in to what he meant when he said “it’s a metal saw.”

aksdb ,

Maybe he also meant “dude, that saw is really metal”. Who knows what that saw has been capable of.

el_bhm ,

That saw might be capable of throwing horns. We will never know.

EtherWhack ,
@EtherWhack@lemmy.world avatar

I’m pretty sure you could even use the back of the blade and the friction alone would work with enough time

ook_the_librarian ,
@ook_the_librarian@lemmy.world avatar

I’ll happily supply the hacksaw to keep you occupied.

mods_are_assholes ,

If you made a custom alloy blade that was harder than calcium carbonate but softer than steel, it would work.

Same idea with those dental tools you can get in the drug store, hard enough to chip plaque but soft enough to deform against enamel. Hypothetically can’t damage your teeth unless you get stupid and use it as a lever or something.

foggianism ,

Also the hacksaw extends his reach by 50 cm so he could have grabbed the phone with it.

ElectricTrombone ,
@ElectricTrombone@lemmy.world avatar

My dad saw a picture of that scene and immediately said “He could cut that pipe he’s chained to.” “But what if the blade is dull?” I said. “That pipe is cast iron. All he’d have to do is score it really good and then crack it with handle of the saw, or kick it lose.”

Dad knowledge. It must be something we get when we become a dad.

lambda ,
@lambda@programming.dev avatar

I can’t wait for mine to come in!

slimarev92 , to mildlyinfuriating in Reddit literally shilling their own stonks to users in direct message, reveals that CEO gets paid $193 million last year

He wasn’t paid that amount. He got 341,000 in cash and the rest was in stocks and options (which will only be worth that much if the company performs well financially). This us place is just like Reddit, nobody ever reads the article.

nyctre ,

It doesn’t really need to perform well financially. He can sell everything as soon as it goes public and retire

SkippingRelax ,

But they never do that. Musk could have been supping margaritas on a man made island with oompa loompas in a private ocean a long time ago

Agent641 OP ,

Oompa-loompas are extinct. He needs enough money to clone them from mosquitos trapped in amber.

stringere ,

Butterscotch.

owen ,

He will still be in control of that wealth. It really shouldn’t be treated different from salary compensation

CurbsTickle , (edited )

Unable to delete so editing instead. Leaving Lemmy.world due to privacy concerns.

SupraMario ,

Still not how that works, if he wants cash he has to sell, selling stocks is heavily taxed. Now he can take a loan against the stocks but if they don’t do well then he’s not going to get much for them. It’s a risk and taxes is paid like it or not.

Still a shit system, but that’s a different discussion, but they pay taxes.

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  • falsem ,

    It's taxed as income when you receive it. If you hold onto it for over a year then sell it you pay capital gains (which are lower) on the difference between the grant price and current price (if it went up).

    Socsa ,

    I wouldn’t say heavily taxed. If he exercised his options more than 6 months ago he’ll pay the flat 15% capital gains tax. Whereas his effective tax rate on his salary will be around 30%

    nilloc ,

    Yeah and he can also use the stocks as collateral on a loan and avoid them all together.

    RaoulDook ,

    I have read that that’s one of the wealthy’s “big secret” ways to avoid taxes. They allegedly live off of those loans as their spending money, while the value of the investments they use as collateral increases over time, but they don’t pay taxes on the Unrealized gains. And they can keep borrowing more as needed with those same investments as collateral.

    I don’t have the whole scam figured out though. I’m not sure how they pay back the loans without having to cash out something that would generate a tax burden.

    nilloc ,

    I’m assuming s long s they spread out payments over time and roll lots of the debt into the next loan.

    That’s how they become too big to fail at their banks. At least that’s the Donald Trump method. His problem is that he has fuck all for collateral at this point.

    TwigletSparkle ,

    lol just default the loan and let them take the collateral, you have thr money already tax free

    cole ,
    @cole@lemdro.id avatar

    I wonder if you can pay off loans by transferring the stock. Idk, just a thought

    dan ,
    @dan@upvote.au avatar

    Another thing to avoid taxes is donating stock to charities, as you can deduct the market value of the stock rather than just the cost basis.

    Say you buy some stock for $100 and it goes up in value to $400. If you sell it, you have to pay capital gains tax on the $300 gain.

    However, if you donate it, you don’t have to pay any tax and can deduct the whole $400, meaning your taxable income is reduced by $400 (which would be a ~$120 reduction in income tax for someone with a 30% effective tax rate).

    Of course, you still end up with less money than you would have if you didn’t donate. But if you’re going to donate anyways, donating stock with gains is better than donating cash because you’ve already paid income tax on the cash but haven’t paid any tax on the stock gains.

    SupraMario ,

    If he waits for longer than a year, short term under a year is taxed at normal income rates.

    Natanael ,

    The interest rate on taking loans against assets is usually less than paying the taxes for selling the same assets

    BradleyUffner ,

    They can take out loans with the stocks as collateral. The money received from loans isn’t taxable.

    SupraMario ,

    That still requires you to make sure the stock are worth something, and you have to pay interest on that loan.

    I think people are thinking I’m defending the system, I’m not, I’m just pointing out how it works.

    CurbsTickle , (edited )

    Unable to delete so editing instead. Leaving Lemmy.world due to privacy concerns.

    SupraMario ,

    If they sell after holding it for more than a year, if they short term sell the stock under a year it’s a normal income tax on said stock.

    CurbsTickle , (edited )

    Unable to delete so editing instead. Leaving Lemmy.world due to privacy concerns.

    SupraMario ,

    I’m not disagreeing with you, I think it’s a shit system as well, I’m just pointing out what a lot of people seem to think is 0 taxes on stocks.

    TheOneCurly ,

    But also Tim Cook’s total compensation for 2022 was $99 million and Satya Nadella’s 2023 was $48 million. Paying him more than CEOs of actually profitable companies and what amounts to nearly 1/4 of revenue is a pretty big outlier.

    deweydecibel ,

    This place is also just like reddit in that comments like yours seeking to seem smarter than everyone else by pointing out technicalities in the article as evidence everyone has the wrong idea, without appreciating the full context, and deliberately ignoring the overall point.

    Executives paid in stocks and options are completely normal, and those stock options have a value. Moreover, those things were not given to other employees nearly as much as they were given to the CEO.

    The actual dollar amount he receives from Reddit is not what matters. What matters is the amount of compensation given to him in comparison to everyone else at Reddit and to other CEOs at other companies, especially when taking his performance into account.

    The point is Reddit is effectively giving way too much of its value to one person who has done little to actually make it profitable in all the time he’s been there while routinely making mistakes and allowing scandals that have hurt Reddit’s reputation.

    fidodo ,

    The context is important since it informs us about why he’s doing this, which is probably to further inflate his stock value

    Kayday ,

    Steve Jobs was wealthy despite having a salary of $1 per year.

    slimarev92 ,

    Arw you suggesting that reddit shares are going to be worth a lot of money? I see a an 18 year old company that still can’t turn a profit, so I don’t exactly see how the IPO can be a success.

    FlyingSquid , to aboringdystopia in Schools in America apparently have their own army recruiter
    @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

    I wasn’t going to join anyway, but the military recruiter who came to my school in the 90s ensured I wouldn’t enlist.

    He ended literally ended every phrase or clause with “'n stuff.” And I do mean literally. Every phrase or clause.

    It went like this:

    “If you wanna join the army 'n stuff, you gotta get fit 'n stuff because basic training ain’t easy 'n stuff but if you start getting fit now, you’ll do fine 'n stuff.”

    For 45 fucking minutes.

    intensely_human ,

    STUFF, N STUFF!

    FlyingSquid ,
    @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

    Almost 30 years ago and I still get triggered by how absolutely fed up I was by the end of class.

    emergencyfood ,

    Damn, he gave you PTSD before even joining?

    ultra ,

    He gave them PTSD 'n stuff.

    rottingleaf ,

    For some people it may be compulsive. Still probably they didn’t want him as a recruiter.

    FlyingSquid ,
    @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

    It probably was compulsive, but after that amount of time having to listen to him, “fuck you and fuck the army” is, I think, a reasonable attitude.

    So yeah, probably not the best recruiter.

    anarchy79 ,
    @anarchy79@lemmy.world avatar

    Fuck you, and fuck the army, n’ stuff.

    CurlyMoustache ,
    @CurlyMoustache@lemmy.world avatar

    “For 45 fucking minutes, 'n stuff”

    FTFY

    Corkyskog ,

    Dude you post A LOT on Lemmy, and with personal information too. I haven’t even clicked on your profile, but just from memore I should guess that you’re a married Jewish male, in his mid to late 40s, with a queer daughter. (I think you also mentioned living in an east coast state… but this is just solely memory, not actually trying to stalk or doxx you).

    If you haven’t already done so, you might want to delete some of the posts that might have personal info.

    FlyingSquid ,
    @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

    I should guess that you’re a married Jewish male, in his mid to late 40s, with a queer daughter

    Can’t be too many of those, right?

    I think you also mentioned living in an east coast state

    I did not, however I can think of one or two East Coast states that have more than one or two married Jewish males in their mid to late 40s with a queer daughter.

    Corkyskog , (edited )

    I mean that’s why I felt comfortable posting it, and not feeling like I am contributing to doxxing. But if all that is all solely from memory, I can’t imagine how close someone could come to dropping a pin on you if they went through all your comments.

    Just a PSA, to each their own. Some woman on Tiktok just put 500 minutes into detailing a part of her life, so clearly different people have different comfort levels on the internet.

    Oh and statistically there are less than 50,000 married jewish men in their 40s with a queer daughter. Probably closer to less than 15,000. But those are a lot of confounding variables, and I really didn’t feel like launching Minitab for this haha.

    I only noticed this because your comments generally are well received and resonate with me, so your username stuck in my mind.

    ArmokGoB , to lemmyshitpost in For those thinking of going back to reddit. Gaze upon this comment section and reconsider.

    Not much worse than people constantly evangelizing Linux, whining about cars, and all the other Lemmyisms that have seeped between instances.

    Cicraft ,

    I’ll take real engagement over bot traffic any day of the week

    jdeath ,

    This is my new favorite phrase!

    horseloaf ,

    Coffee Mug Phrases need a sub on the Reddit!

    Traegert ,

    This needs a coffee mug

    deur ,

    ^ This!

    TheRealKuni ,

    I’m using this in my daily life now

    frippa ,
    @frippa@lemmy.ml avatar

    Love. This. Comment

    force ,

    I approve! Perfectly stated.

    zzx ,

    Wow!!! Couldn’t have said it better myself!!!?!?!

    You sir have won the Internet today haha XD lmao tips fedora

    Does the narwhal bacon at midnight? Haha le rage comic funny

    Resol ,
    @Resol@lemmy.world avatar

    What have I become?

    Cowbee ,
    @Cowbee@lemmy.ml avatar

    To be fair, if you make a decentralized, leftist answer to Reddit’s inherent structural flaws, you’re going to attract leftists and people who are fans of decentralization.

    Everyone else is already on Reddit.

    koncertejo ,

    Yeah that’s why I’m here lol. Sue me. Cars bad, Linux good.

    SpaceTurtle224 ,
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  • Thteven ,
    @Thteven@lemmy.world avatar

    We don’t do that here, have a lemon instead 🍋

    Mr_Blott , to lemmyshitpost in English may be a hot mess but at least we don't have to worry about this nonsense

    Me speaking to a French guy last week -

    “We’ve just been the the musée de l’automobile in Mulhouse”

    “Sorry, where?”

    “Mulhouse”

    “Where?”

    “Mulhouse”

    "Aaaaaah I see! It’s pronounced [pronounces Mulhouse *exactly the same FUCKING way I just pronounced it]

    😂 Happens very regularly

    tiredofsametab ,

    Just because your ears can't hear a difference doesn't mean that there is none. I deal with this a lot when Japanese ask me for help and can't differentiate between certain sounds

    force , (edited )

    Yeah in Japanese a few consonant sounds like ‘r’ and ‘l’ sounds or ‘h’/‘f’ or ‘s’/‘th’ or ‘z’/‘ð’ are basically heard as the same (an American ‘r’ might even sound like a weird ‘w’ to Japanese), and English has around 17 to 24 distinctive vowel sounds generally (based on quality) while Japanese has 5 plus vowel length and tones (pitch accent). As a result of the phonetic differences between the languages, it can be hard to hear or recreate the differences in sound quality (especially when it’s Japanese on the speaking/listening end, but Americans also sure have a terrible time trying to make Japanese sounds like the “n” or “r” or “ch”/“j” or “sh”/“zh” or “f” or “u”. they just perceive it as the same as the closest sounds in English)

    In my experience, only God can hear the difference between Polish “dż” and “dź” / “cz” and “ć” (and the others)…

    orl0pl ,

    I’m speak some Polish and dż is like job, cz is like check, sz is like shop, idk how rest is pronounced in other words

    tiredofsametab ,

    English also doesn't have gemination (small tsu) which does make a difference in Japanese as well. Hearing that in very quick Japanese for words I don't know can still be different. Same with vowel length. Once you know the word, it doesn't matter as much how someone says it, but when it's new vocab and the speaker is very quick, it can be tough.

    tigeruppercut ,

    I didn’t know the technical term gemination for っ, appreciate it. Can’t it manifest somewhat similarly to stops/plosives though? English doesn’t generally use those followed by the same consonant within the same word, but the phrase “port ten” is almost like the t consonant in itte, but with less of a pause in the middle. Contrast it with the word “portend” and you can see that we have a little bit more of a pause in “port ten”.

    tiredofsametab ,

    When I say "port ten" and ポッテン (with or without the long 'o') it seems I'm doing something different. Maybe a glottal stop and hard attack? I'm not actually a linguist though, so I could be very wrong.

    tigeruppercut ,

    Wait, how does ch/j or sh differ from the English sounds? And what words use zh? I don’t think I’ve seen that romaji

    force , (edited )

    They are all palatal sibilants in Japanese, while in English they’re palato-alveolar sibilants. Very hard difference for English speakers to hear, but the distinction is common enough to exist in many languages. And the “ch”/“j”/“sh”/“zh” sounds I speak of are just common variations of “t”/“d”/“s”/“z” that occur before “i” (they are spelled si -> shi, zi -> zhi/ji, ti -> chi, di -> ji).

    Usually “zhi” isn’t spelled out in Rōmaji though, actually it’s often spelled “ji” even when they’re sometimes pronounced differently (so “zi” and “di” end up being spelled the same, perhaps confusingly, but most people pronounce them the same so it doesn’t really matter). But I think pronouncing them differently is more of an archaic, obsolete, ot dialectal thing anyways.

    The “h” in “hi” also sounds different.

    The spelling also changes in the same way before a syllable that starts with a “y” sound, e.g. syu -> shu or dyo -> jo.

    Before “u” some consonants also change (hu -> fu, tu -> tsu, du -> dzu).

    These sound changes don’t occur for all speakers/dialects, some don’t have a “shi” and just say “si” for example, but they are the most common and standard I believe.

    Ethalis ,

    No offense intended since I’m fully incapable of pronouncing tons of English words properly (fuck “squirrel” specifically), but as a Frenchman who has lived near Mulhouse for a few years and interacted with a lot of foreign students, what you said probably wasn’t close to being the exact same as that guy

    AngryCommieKender ,

    Ignore the letters in English, it helps just as much as ignoring the letters in French.

    Squirrel is pronounced like skwir-rel.

    Taniwha420 ,

    He he he … No. It’s closer to skwurl.

    Mr_Blott ,

    NO IT FUCKING ISN’T 😂 Only if you pronounce mirror as MEEEEEER

    InFerNo ,

    I pronounce mirror like speegle 😄

    vaultdweller013 ,

    Water is pronouced wader.

    Mr_Blott ,

    Fair, I pronounce it wa’er

    Teon , (edited )
    @Teon@kbin.social avatar

    Interesting. I say wah ter. My accent pronounces the T as a T, not as a D. Both are correct.

    kommerzbert ,

    For all languages I have learned so far ‘squirrel’ is really hard to pronounce for non-native speakers.

    English: squirrel

    French: écureuil

    And the germans kill it with: Eichhörnchen

    Mr_Blott ,

    American English - SKWOOOOOORL

    GreatAlbatross ,
    @GreatAlbatross@feddit.uk avatar

    If it makes you feel better, most Americans can’t pronounce squirrel either.

    “Skwerl”

    vaultdweller013 ,

    “Shit colored tree rat” is also an acceptable pronunciation.

    Teon ,
    @Teon@kbin.social avatar

    "Yard Ninjas"
    or
    "Fuzzy Tail Gang"

    Teon ,
    @Teon@kbin.social avatar

    Or Aluminum or Li-berry.

    Kecessa ,

    To add to what that other person said, when you grow up your brain gets used to hearing the sounds common to your accent and you can even stop hearing the difference between certain sounds when someone speaks your language with a different accent!

    In Quebec french there’s a big difference between the sound of “pré” and “prè” that doesn’t exist with some of the french accents in France and they’re unable to recreate that difference and might even be unable to hear it!

    force ,

    “Pré” and “prè” consistently sound distinctly different in most, dare I say almost all, accents in mainland France. The difference is the same with basically all words spelled with those vowels. “Ê” also sounds like a long “è” in most words for most people. “e” also sounds like “é” when before silent letters except for “t”, and sounds like “è” when before multiple letters or before “x” or before silent “t” or if it’s the last sound except for open monosyllabic words, and it sounds special or is silent elsewhere. “-ent” is always silent too. Obviously doesn’t apply to “en/em”, also special exception for “-er/-es”.

    Kecessa ,

    youtu.be/W9c38ck4AuE

    This video wouldn’t exist with the Quebecois accent because the three words wouldn’t be considered homonyms.

    SorryQuick ,

    Maybe not in proper Quebecois, but I feel like most people here use the é/è sounds interchangably. Take “Il prétend” for example. It feels like that accent could be either é or è and people would still pronounce it the same.

    force , (edited )

    The vowel sounds in “près” and “pré” are very clearly different, and the sound in “prêt” changes from “è” to “é” when in liaison because it always sounds like “è” at the end of words (and separately, in closed syllables) and always sounds like “é” in open syllables otherwise (liaison triggers a change in the syllable structure which changes the vowel here). This does not contradict what I said. You said “(pr)é” and “(pr)è” sound the same, nothing about “(pr)ê”.

    Zink ,

    Yep. I took a language psych class in college, and we saw some examples of this that were crazy, especially being one of the people that can’t hear the difference.

    I can’t remember the example, but just imagine somebody saying the same word to you twice and then a third party telling you the first person just said two different words.

    isthingoneventhis ,

    points at danish vowel noises

    most indecipherable I’ve ever heard in my life.

    SubArcticTundra , to lemmyshitpost in English may be a hot mess but at least we don't have to worry about this nonsense
    @SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml avatar

    Tfw the washing machine is gender fluid

    Mr_Blott ,

    You can use gender powder too

    Triple_B ,

    I use gender pods.

    MystikIncarnate ,

    I hear that you can eat those.

    I_Miss_Daniel ,

    I believe women sometimes use them to aid in the release of gender fluid.

    Bunnylux ,
    @Bunnylux@lemmy.world avatar

    I tried this it doesn’t work :(

    peopleproblems ,

    Gotta use the dryer apparently

    Why did my ex know this

    sharkfucker420 , to lemmyshitpost in For those thinking of going back to reddit. Gaze upon this comment section and reconsider.
    @sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml avatar

    Fully believe a lot of these are bots. I refuse to believe that humans act like this at that magnitude

    abracaDavid ,

    Genuinely not sure which option is more frightening.

    TurboHarbinger ,

    Maybe they are dogs! Maybe they are robot dogs! You Don’t KNOW!

    BTW it’s less scary if you think most of these comments are written by morons. A “smart” bot comment (like an informative one) is still way better than a comment written by a human idiot.

    MataVatnik ,
    @MataVatnik@lemmy.world avatar

    Or a single person with multiple accounts trying to build karma. This reads like the same ESL or a 12 year old wrote it.

    harry_balzac ,

    I. Love. This. Comment. NB: I am a human that is bipedal and omnivorous like many other humans on {undefined}.

    Furbag ,

    These low effort and low quality comments used to be the norm when reddit was new. Eventually the community kinda wised up a bit and realized that you don’t need a “when does the narwhal bacon?” comment chain in every thread and heavily downvoted this sort of thing. Then the reverse happened and reddit become known for housing the internet’s most insufferable know-it-alls, contrarians, and pedants. I think it kinda still has that reputation a little bit, but maybe the metaphorical boomerang is swinging back around again? Either that, or like you said, bot infestation.

    TheRaven , to lemmyshitpost in We've still got a few hours.
    @TheRaven@lemmy.ca avatar

    The correct date from the movie is actually 2016. youtu.be/nYndBvhz8hU

    ummthatguy ,
    @ummthatguy@lemmy.world avatar

    The Eugenics Wars also got date shifted. I blame the Kelvin timeline.

    match ,
    @match@pawb.social avatar

    We still on for the Bell Riots though?

    ummthatguy ,
    @ummthatguy@lemmy.world avatar
    Odo ,

    201 days left according to the BellRiots.com countdown, so we have that to look forward to.

    DaleGribble88 ,
    @DaleGribble88@programming.dev avatar

    I’ll try to avoid any major spoilers, but a callback to Enterprise in Strange New Worlds explains why the old dates are wrong/inconsistent.

    ummthatguy ,
    @ummthatguy@lemmy.world avatar

    I’m aware of that whole thing. Still blaming JJ. Just feels right.

    samus12345 ,
    @samus12345@lemmy.world avatar

    And the awful Ghostbusters reboot came out that year. COINCIDENCE??

    datelmd5sum , to memes in Android privacy ROM >> iOS

    This is turning a generation of people tech illiterate. The young people I interact with are smart because they’re all employed by a tech company and mentored by us dinosaurs, but I’ve heard some horror stories of the tech literacy of the average young person.

    Touchscreen was a mistake.

    AnUnusualRelic ,
    @AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world avatar

    To be fair, Android is absolutely atrocious whenever files are involved.

    DeepGradientAscent ,
    @DeepGradientAscent@programming.dev avatar

    Had and have magnitudes of more problems with file management on iOS; it has improved a bit with a basic native file browser.

    xuniL ,

    Still can’t rename file extensions though

    datelmd5sum ,

    Is there some higher level thing preventing this?

    If I open a terminal on my galaxy s23 I don’t see anything special with file extensions:

    $ echo foo > shit.txt

    $ mv shit.txt shit.mp4

    $ cat shit.mp4

    foo

    xuniL ,

    I was talking about files on iOS.

    Bene7rddso ,

    Don’t need the terminal for that. I can use Google Files to rename a pdf to .txt and it opens in a text editor

    datelmd5sum ,

    Don’t need the Google Files for that. I can use the terminal to rename a file.

    ji17br ,

    I just tried with the default files app. You can definitely rename file extensions.

    xuniL ,

    Wow you’re right. Just checked again, they must have added that this new major iOS version.

    explodicle ,

    For better or worse, we’re going the way of “the car guy”. It used to be something everyone needed to know a little bit about, but now fades into the background with a handful of experts.

    CptEnder ,

    Damn that’s a good way to put it.

    datelmd5sum ,

    As long as the non-experts somehow manage to make a living to pay for our expertise. I heard a coworker vent about her son who wants to drop out of school (assuming elementary / middle) to focus on his streaming career…

    ColeSloth ,

    I’m car guy, IT guy, home maintenance guy, and electronics repair guy.

    I learned how to do everything because I’m a cheap ass that won’t replace what can be fixed and won’t pay to have something be fixed when I can manage it myself.

    I got 240,000 miles on a car right now and it’s never seen the inside of a shop. Last big screen TV was free because it was broken and then I soldered new LEDS on to fix it. Paid $25 for an $800 dishwasher that just needed disassembling and cleaning. Also $25 for a front load whirlpool washing machine with a broken internal lock mechanism that I repaired. Same for a dryer with bad rollers inside.

    People blow way too much money on buying new stuff instead of just learning how to fix and maintain things now. /old man rant

    lolcatnip ,

    Touch input isn’t the problem. Hiding the file system is.

    rescue_toaster ,

    Yup. I teach at a university. It used to be adequate for instructions to say something along the lines of

    open the file C://Folder/anotherfolder/subfolder/document.ext

    I encounter more and more students every year that have no idea how to do this.

    ConstantPain ,

    Your path syntax is wrong tho…

    DillyDaily ,

    I’m an IT teacher at a community centre, I genuinely never thought I would see the day when a student younger than me enrolled. I wrongly assumed my role as a public educator would just fade out as younger generations required generally less training around computers.

    Obviously courses in disability service centres would remain, and accredited training for people to kick off or retarget their careers would still exist.

    But the person at the local library who meets twice a week and teaches grandma how to close the tabs on her phone felt like a job that was destined to die.

    I’m in my 30s and this year I have a few teenagers in my class. The conversations are hilarious, they don’t know how to read a file location adreess or open a program that isn’t pinned to the taskbar, but at the same time, I don’t know how to access the notifications bar on an iPhone or quickly find the wifi settings without going through general settings…because I went from windows to 98, to a blackberry, to an Android, just like they went from an ipad toddler to an iPhone teen, and only now are they having Windows 11 thrown at them, and of all the computers to try and learn to use, this wouldn’t be my first recommendation (but it’s what our government funds us to teach 🤷‍♀️)

    The skill divide is so hard to explain too. My elderly students just stare blankly at one screen, overwhelmed and confused, unsure how to recognise anything. Nothing stands out as a link, or a click able button, because the entire visual landscape is new to them. There is often a lot of hand holding which can be frustrating especially when you made a huge breakthrough in their confidence and independence only to have come in the next week feeling insecure about their skills because they’ve forgotten a little bit, or had a bad spam caller over the weekend who made them want to never touch a computer again.

    Then the teens, who know what links look like and generally what they do will rush ahead, they may not know what it is exactly they’re trying to do, but they think they know what end result is expected and they generally know how to avoid catastrophic issues so they just barrel ahead, I’ll see them make 40 clicks a second for something that usually takes 2, because they’re throwing spaghetti at the wall.

    I had a project last week. Dead simple. Save a linked file to a target location, import the file into another program through either drag and drop or browsing for the file, then change 1 thing, and export the final file into another target location, as specified on the activity sheet.

    Barely 5 minutes in, I’m still helping Brenda get her mouse dongle plugged in, and one of the teens is finished. And yes, they have every file I asked for, and every edit I asked for, but both are just sitting in the downloads folder. And now we’re at the end looking back, the teen is confused because they have the edited file that is required to "finish*, how is it wrong, and I’m trying to explain why skipping the steps about target locations means they’ll have to start again because this activity is all about target locations and I don’t actually give two shits about this file I just need them to put things in and out of a folder until they can explain to me “a folder is a container” and not just stare into space because a folder is a black hole on their phone things they save go to until they need them again and just download them again.

    Kiosade ,

    I’m a Millenial, and it’s been wild to see how i’m basically near the top of the bell curve when it comes to understanding the basics of using computers. Like you, I thought general computer illiteracy would die with the Boomers… but here we are.

    eatham ,
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    Stuff like that are infuriating. I’m in high school and there’s an animation class.

    The teacher has very clearly told the class about a million times to save the files in OneDrive/2024/Animation/

    People are still saving it in downloads or documents or somewhere else and then saying they forgot where they saved it and did nothing the whole class.

    Blue_Morpho , (edited )

    Nothing stands out as a link, or a click able button, because the entire visual landscape is new to them.

    That’s because modern UI designers are all about form over function. UI rules were worked out 40 years ago with the first gui’s. But you don’t get a promotion for maintaining code. So everyone has to do something different to get noticed.

    So now we have UI’s where interactive and non interactive elements are mixed without any visual distinction.

    hperrin , (edited )

    Yes, this is much worse than when a bunch of old people were upset when young people didn’t know how to use a telegraph/party line/rotary dial/gramophone/touchtone/turntable/fax/dialup modem/cassette deck/etc. Because now it’s happening now, and back then it was happening then.

    datelmd5sum ,

    Your phone is measuring time by counting how many seconds has passed since 1970-01-01 00:00 UTC. Doesn’t matter if you’re on android or apple, the OS is based on ideas of Bell Labs people’s ideas from the 1960’s.

    PatMustard ,

    The difference is all that stuff went away, traditional desktop computers aren’t going anywhere. Sure, you can probably manage fine at home with just a phone, but not in a lot of jobs.

    AlmightySnoo , to lemmyshitpost in Where's my safety pin.
    @AlmightySnoo@lemmy.world avatar
    4grams ,
    @4grams@awful.systems avatar

    I wish I had more upvotes to give.

    f4f4f4f4f4f4f4f4 ,

    🤨

    🟡

    jroid8 OP , to games in What game fits this?

    In case someone would like to know: I took this screenshot from the leaf blower revolution’s steam page

    Nephalis ,

    Wtf… The review gets a whole other dimension with this knowledge… It’s more the “help me” of an addicted now…

    Fudoshin ,
    @Fudoshin@feddit.uk avatar

    Ich wil

    Nephalis ,

    Was willst du?

    Fudoshin ,
    @Fudoshin@feddit.uk avatar

    ich will, dass ihr mir vertraut

    bleistift2 ,

    What did you think this was – with 3750 hours of playtime on record?

    DNU ,

    Somebody grinding hours…

    HerbalGamer ,
    @HerbalGamer@sh.itjust.works avatar

    which is different to addiction how?

    DNU ,

    Grinding hours on steam aka using s.a.m. , archi steam farm or similar programs to emulate playing the games for hours while the games are actually not running.

    Nephalis , (edited )

    Yeah, like DNU said, something more grindy. Or something difficult. So more like PoE where you can play thousands of hours without seeing everything or knowing everything. Or like Black Desert Online with its afk mechanics. Or a game with a lot rng like dwarf fortress or rimworld.

    Or speedrunning stuff. But some kind of idle… 😅 indeed unexpected.

    Well maybe it is because said games are my timesinks… Even though I haven’t played any game as long as he/she did.

    Crackhappy , to steam in Palworld reaches 1 million concurrent players on steam and becomes the first hit of 2024
    @Crackhappy@lemmy.world avatar

    I’m waiting for PALWorld 2, NTSC

    pewpew ,
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    PALWorld 2: Revenge of SCART

    yamanii , to lemmyshitpost in no monetization, you said a bad word
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    For real, this algorithm is making people talk in a funny way to discuss anything, I cringe whenever someone has to say “unalive” or the video goes to the bottom of the feed.

    pkill ,

    Fucking newspeak. Corporate media must die

    orrk ,

    it’s not newspeak, it might be euphemisms but the meaning of what is being said is alive and well, the major hallmark of newspeak is to limit the ability to convey ideas via conversation

    NoSpiritAnimal ,
    @NoSpiritAnimal@lemmy.world avatar

    Ok, so like how it limits the ability to convey ideas via conversation then?

    DragonTypeWyvern , (edited )

    Adapting language to bypass censorship is very much not Newspeak

    It’s quite literally the opposite of Newspeak, an artificial language designed to constrict speech and prevent the spread of complex ideas.

    NoSpiritAnimal ,
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    Adapting language to bypass censorship is one of the dictionary definitions of Newspeak, a form of circumlocution.

    UnderpantsWeevil ,
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    the major hallmark of newspeak is to limit the ability to convey ideas via conversation

    Slowly constricting the number of words that can be publicly spoken does work us toward that end. Folks who think they’re cleverly sidestepping the latest hurdle are only getting corralled deeper into the pen.

    stingpie ,

    To be precise, newspeak does function by a direct reduction of vocabulary. Instead, newspeak works by expanding the number of meanings a single word can have, so that every sentence can be interpreted as supportive of the party, and the ‘grammatically correct’ meaning of the sentence is the supportive interpretation.

    The closest approximation of newspeak in English is the sentence “That didn’t work, did it?” If you respond “Yes,” that can be interpreted as “Yes, you are correct, that didn’t work.” And if you reply “No,” that can’t be interpreted as “No, that didn’t work.”

    Cort ,

    Oz response: nah, yeah it worked mate

    thisisnotgoingwell ,

    Simple math, gotta cancel out the negative with your own negative and then affirm the positive

    TheGrandNagus ,

    That was the end goal of Newspeak, but it hadn’t been achieved. It was a slow process.

    You could argue this is what they’re doing, training people to talk in a sterilised way. That it would become so normalised that anybody trying to speak normally would be dismissed as cringey or whatever. All to the benefit of advertisers.

    Maybe that’s a huge leap, but I think that was the gist of what they meant.

    orrk ,

    avoiding certain words does not create newspeak, but rather the inability to use a limited set of words outside a given context, circumventing speech restrictions is arguably the least newspeak thing possible, as it basically makes any attempt at new speak impossible.

    chicken ,

    I feel like it’s more comparable to 1337speak

    words_number , to memes in oh no Germany what is u doin

    The “journalism” about israel/gaza here in germany is a complete shame across the board. German media, even (or especially) the publicly funded media, literally try to hide the discussions that the rest of the world is having about this war. Things like these: nytimes.com/…/israel-qatar-money-prop-up-hamas.ht…

    And of course they are failing. Also, whenever something happens that they can’t ignore, they use euphemisms to describe war crimes of the israli side instead of just stating the facts. Many journalists are literally scared to lose their jobs if they report to honestly about this conflict. It’s insane.

    Gradually_Adjusting ,
    @Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world avatar

    Journalists who are afraid of speaking truth to power are not doing their job. I would tell them “Get fired if you must, fuck your job - you’re a journalist, not a lobby boy.”

    Bassman1805 ,

    Suuuuuper easy to say when it’s not your ability to pay rent on the line.

    Gradually_Adjusting ,
    @Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world avatar

    Some jobs are not a mere job, they are a societal need and a calling. Should we accept doctors who would prefer to keep their job if it meant giving substandard care?

    That’s an extreme example maybe, but given the state of corporate news media and the effect it’s had on society, I’ll stand by it.

    kamenlady ,
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    We can all make valid points here and there, at the end of the day there’s gotta be food on the table.

    Gradually_Adjusting ,
    @Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world avatar

    It does rather underpin the value of strong social safety nets, doesn’t it? When the only way to survive is to keep your job, it’s not essentially different than forced labor.

    kamenlady ,
    @kamenlady@lemmy.world avatar

    I agree. At the moment i am keeping my job, but would rather take a small timeout, like 3 months. Just relax and take my time to think things over. The pandemic took everything i had set aside and the inflation has me spending my whole salary for the month. I could only quit this job if i already have another starting the next day, there’s no way to spend even a week without income.

    So, yeah atm it feels like forced labor.

    Bartsbigbugbag ,

    That’s why I say, fuck a UBI, we need a UBO, Universal Basic Outcome.

    urshanabi , (edited )
    @urshanabi@lemmygrad.ml avatar

    I’m sorry, why do you in particular have some keen insight or experience or knowledge which allows you to speak for these folks anymore than the other commenter?

    EDIT: I should clarify, it would be very very easy to not do this; there, I did it now, there I didn’t do it again, I can keep this going. Can you specify why in-and-of-itself supporting an unambiguous apartheid regime and settler-colonial state engaged in documented genocide over decades is not, again, in-and-of-itself enough to not support or write on or for it??

    MrVilliam ,

    He was a lobby boy, she said “lose your jobby, boy.” He wasn’t good enough for her.

    Now he’s gone apologist, so she turned and balled her fist. Fascism shouldn’t get support.

    Roflmasterbigpimp ,
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    The German Media is funded by via a fee and is controlled by an NGO.

    And I have no Idea what you are talking about, Deutschland Funk talks about the death in Palestine quite often. And how Israel is not tunening down their Attacks and how Shipments of Aid being blocked.

    They report very neutral you could even say emotionless. Because they have no need for seeking attention or shock Images because they don’t need to sell their News and Articles.

    Trust me, we are very well informed on what is going on in Gaza and how Israel is starving the Region while bombing it to shred. Our News network is pretty good only our politicians seem unwilling to talk about this

    The public-funded-Media does a good job there!

    …deutschlandradio.de/dlf-audiothek-audio-teilen.3…

    deutschlandfunk.de/uno-bericht-zu-kriegsverbreche…

    tagesschau.de/…/gaza-kriegsverbrechen-un-100.html

    words_number ,

    Man muss zwischen “innerem” und “äußerem” Mainstream unterscheiden. Der innere Mainstream sind z.B. viel verkaufte Tageszeitungen, sowie Fernsehnachrichten, “politische” Talkshows und vielleicht Nachrichten bei Unterhaltungsradiosendern. Deutschlandfunksendungen, sowie Investigativformate (Monitor, Frontal 21, Panorama,…) leisten oft sehr gute Arbeit, aber fliegen verhältnismäßig unter dem Radar. Ich finde es berechtigt, die quotenstarken öffentlichrechtlichen Abendnachrichten (Tagesthemen, Heute) im Fernsehen mit anderen Ländern zu vergleichen (z.B. BBC, PBS, CNN) und in diesem Vergleich zeigt sich sehr deutlich, wie das Thema in Deutschland komplett anders und sehr einseitig behandelt wird.

    Ich gebe dir recht, was den DLF betrifft, der rettet die Öffentlichrechtlichen in der Hinsicht immer, dass die sagen können “guck, wurde doch berichtet” wenn jemand Kritik übt. Also wer sich informieren will, kann das hier auf jeden Fall auch in den Deutschen Medien, aber die quotenstärksten Formate, die die allgemeine Diskussion von Themen am meisten prägen sind in vielerlei Hinsicht beschämend schlecht.

    Roflmasterbigpimp ,
    @Roflmasterbigpimp@lemmy.world avatar

    (Ah Gott sei Dank du sprichst deutsch! Eine Diskussion auf englisch darüber ist etwas knifflig zumal es kaum Artikel über die deutsche Medienlandschaft auf englisch gibt 😂)

    Bei mir ist es vielleicht genau deswegen umgekehrt 🤔 Ich schaue kein Fernsehen und somit auch nicht Tagesschau und bekomme daher meine Nachrichten eher vom DLF und deren Unterformaten. Daher bin ich und die meisten meiner Freunde sehr darüber informiert. Aber in der Tagesschau usw. kommt dazu nichts?

    words_number ,

    Geht mir genau so. Ich informiere mich hauptsächlich über Podcasts und höre auch gerne DLF Sendungen als Podcast (Nachrichten, Der Tag, Hintergrund, manchmal auch Kontrovers). Wenn ich mal Abendnachrichten oder auch politische Talkshows im Fernsehen sehe, platzt mir aber regelmäßig der Kragen.

    1. wegen dem vielfach widerlegtem Schwachsinn, der dort faktenbasierten Argumenten scheinbar ebenbürtig gegenüber steht und
    2. U.A. im Falle dieses Konfliktes, wegen der sehr einseitigigen Berichterstattung, welche sich immer in der gewählten Sprache und oft auch in der Auswahl und Gewichtung der Themen ganz klar zeigt. Wie gesagt, es ist, als würden die Versuchen, unvermeidbare Diskussionen, die sowieso auf der ganzen Welt geführt werden, sowie schwierige, ambivalente Bewertungen, von den Deutschen Zuschauer*innen fernzuhalte. Dadurch soll wohl ein möglichst geschlossenes Weltbild vermitteln und den Leuten (größtenteils im fortgeschrittenen Rentenalter) die Welt erklärt werden, anstatt ihnen die Möglichkeit zu geben, sich eine Meinung zu bilden und sich weiter zu informieren. Ich vermute, dass eine der Ursachen dafür ist, dass diese Art von Nachrichten höhere Einschaltquoten bringen, was auch die Öffis nicht ganz ignorieren können.

    Ziemlich gut diskutiert und anhand von Clips gezeigt (auch im Vergleich zu internationalen anderen Medien), wurde das im Aufwachen!-Podcast, Folgen 456 und 457. Die Podcasts sind sehr lang, haben aber Kapitelmarken. Dazu sei noch erwähnt, dass diverse Redakteur*innen aus den Öffis, denen das selbst auffällt, die aber dagegen nichts ausrichten können, die Podcaster in ihrer Betrachtung bestärkt und ihnen für das Aufzeigen des Problems gedankt haben. Natürlich nicht öffentlich, denn das Thema ist in Deutschland einfach ein Minenfeld.

    GenEcon ,

    Thats simply incorrect. For example ‘Deutschlandfunk Der Tag’ did a long series (~5 hours) about the impact of the war on Palestinians living under Hamas occupation during the war and their feelings towards Israel. They even did a Meta-report ‘How much attention does the dying in Gaza get in german media’ where they interviewed Salma Abuzaina, a Palestine activist in germany.

    Maybe you just don’t consume public funded media if you haven’t heard any report about it. The conflict between reporting on Palestinian deaths and Isreali deaths without negating the suffering of any of the parties is a huge topic in german media.

    words_number ,

    See my other german comment for a reply to exactly that. I know that DLF is mostly doing a good job but that’s not my point. Sorry, but its to tedious for me to keep discussing this in english.

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